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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Primo Subprimo, Roll Call, Suprema, Son Supremo, Role Called Suprima,

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Speaker 2: Son Sun Supremo, Role Suprema Sumo.

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Speaker 3: Warm Up my Panini, Yeah, my forming Grilly warm her

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Speaker 3: for Nanni.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Supremo Ro Suprimo, Supremo Ro.

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Speaker 4: My name is Fante, DJ dramas, my peoples, the best gangs,

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Speaker 4: the grills, separate but equal.

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Speaker 2: Man Supremo Ro Supremo, Son Supremo.

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Speaker 1: My name is Sugar.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't need no drama. Yeah, but I do need

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Speaker 1: a DJ. Yeah, fucking you're hired.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm a phendic Supremo, Roll Suprema Son Supremo Roll.

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Speaker 5: It's lay Yeah, and it's a must.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know that DJ drama.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was my college crush.

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Speaker 2: Supremo Supremo, Roll Call Supremo Sobremo.

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Speaker 1: Roll DJ drama.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know my mama, she's a white lady. She didn't

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Speaker 1: go to Grady.

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Speaker 7: Supremo, Roll Supremo, Son Son Supremo, Roll Call Supremo Son

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Speaker 7: so Supremo, Roll Call Suprema Some.

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Speaker 3: Supremo roll call.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, Hi, that was fun. Yeah, So that's the episode. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: see your next go round. All right, Look I will

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Speaker 1: shut up man, all right, So I will say this much.

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Speaker 3: Back when my band started to tour in nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 3: I kept receipts of which DJ's were open to us

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Speaker 3: and feeling and supporting us. And of course, you know

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Speaker 3: some cats up in New York, Tony Toka, you know,

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Speaker 3: Tony Touch showed us love. His cat named Blu, the

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Speaker 3: barber who used to do these blends, showed his love.

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Speaker 3: Of course, Philly's own Cosmic keV DJ cash Money. But

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Speaker 3: there was one mixtape in particular that always got run

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Speaker 3: on our tour bus and it just said ildelf on it.

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Speaker 3: You know, it meant something to me because this is

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Speaker 3: the first time that I'm hearing Malik B and Tariq

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Speaker 3: and Dice for All actually on a mixtape. And we

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Speaker 3: just ran that tape over and over like that was

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Speaker 3: damn near the soundtrack in nineteen ninety four and ninety

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Speaker 3: five on our tour bus. So cut two seven years later,

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Speaker 3: you know, once the route sort of evolve and whatnot,

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Speaker 3: and now we have two tour buses. As I've joked

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Speaker 3: before that there was this Slytherin tour bus in the

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Speaker 3: Gryffin tour bus. So I'd be on Slytherin, which was

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Speaker 3: Tuik's bus, and you know which was it was always

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Speaker 3: popping on his bus. We were the nerd bus, but

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Speaker 3: you know, his dam was always popping. And it wasn't

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Speaker 3: until like the end of maybe the Phrenology tour, where

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Speaker 3: Tarik's trying to explain to me that every time I

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Speaker 3: hear this little he's trying to explain to me that

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Speaker 3: that's read from Backavilly. It's dramatic, and I'm like, wait,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense. Though it doesn't only because the

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Speaker 3: thing was is that that mixtape of ninety four. I've

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Speaker 3: never heard someone just devote an entire mixtape to what

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Speaker 3: we called underground or backpack rap or whatever, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, which is why the roots couldn't find

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Speaker 3: a real estate on your sens or your not Tony touch,

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Speaker 3: like you know, like yeah, all those like we barely

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Speaker 3: got on them Joins.

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Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, what they're like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: he moved to Atlanta and now he's you.

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Speaker 3: Know, I've always wanted to have this conversation with if

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Speaker 3: you know, it's like we never chopped it up for real.

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Speaker 3: I knew one of these days we were going to

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Speaker 3: have a conversation, so I wanted to save it for here.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad.

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Speaker 6: I know We've had a couple of interactions on I

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Speaker 6: g about it, but never like in depth.

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Speaker 1: This is going.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this is our first in depth conversation. So ladies

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Speaker 3: and gentlemen, please welcome to Quest Love Supreme. The Master

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Speaker 3: got himself mister thanksgiving. Yes, DJ Drama, thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 3: thank you for having me. Do you those people like

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Speaker 3: always pointing out the Mason Dixon line of year before

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Speaker 3: and afterlife.

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Speaker 6: No, I don't get tired of nothing because they couldn't

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Speaker 6: never care. So yeah, nothing, nothing tires me when it

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Speaker 6: comes to that. Okay, It's a very important part of

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Speaker 6: the story for myself and for hip hop and for

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Speaker 6: Southern culture. Like in a lot of ways, you know,

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Speaker 6: like what if I would have went to Temple or

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Speaker 6: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that this kid from Philly who literally

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Speaker 6: Watching The Roots as his inspiration of wow, you can

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Speaker 6: really do this and DJing for Bahamadiya and you know,

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Speaker 6: my roommate when I got to college was Rubiks whose

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Speaker 6: best friend was taib Kwali and I'm DJing lyricist lounges.

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Speaker 6: And then that kid goes on to be a part

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Speaker 6: of and transform like trap music and movement. Gangster Girls

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Speaker 6: becomes like the most important mixtape series literally of all time,

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Speaker 6: but also how important it was to Southern hip hop culture.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's one of those.

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Speaker 6: It's one of those like destiny stories to me when

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Speaker 6: you know and when it's told, and like, I've literally

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Speaker 6: been in Atlanta longer than I was in Philly, but

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Speaker 6: those eighteen years of born and raised in Philly. Once

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Speaker 6: from Philly, always from Philly. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So you know, right, when is the last time you

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Speaker 1: said John? I say John all the time.

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Speaker 6: Here you go, all right the second even even in

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Speaker 6: mean streets, like you know, some of my employees who

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Speaker 6: started interns, like we have signs up like do not

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Speaker 6: come in this John like or in our new building

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Speaker 6: generation now, like there's a big sign of Kobe, or

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Speaker 6: we have like a Philly map on the side, so

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Speaker 6: we still wrap it up.

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Speaker 3: That's what's up. Of course, like you mentioned on your

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Speaker 3: roll call that YouTube went to clerk. So now from Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: I remember the day.

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Speaker 1: No, don't don't, I didn't lie.

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Speaker 5: Me and Nadine used to fight over you all the time,

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Speaker 5: and you.

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Speaker 1: Know that, let's not do that. Yeah, I thought it

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Speaker 1: was the other way around.

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Speaker 6: I used to have the I used to still wear

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Speaker 6: the green fatigues from I Goldberg, like when I got discussed,

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Speaker 6: I still had them.

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Speaker 1: And the locks definitely had the long locks.

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Speaker 5: So that's why this is the whole interesting thing. And

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Speaker 5: it's funny because the mere he said he would do,

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Speaker 5: he said it was in demand. He would do an

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Speaker 5: Automatic Relaxation mixtape. Again, I just want to say that

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Speaker 6: Did you hear this?

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Speaker 1: Contact year older?

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Speaker 6: That's covered interestingly enough, just even during my most recent

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Speaker 6: first CD which happened to be called it was hip

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Speaker 6: hop lovables like people don't realize, like when I first

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Speaker 6: made Automatic Relaxation, like it was before neo soul was

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Speaker 6: you know, before everybody was like singing, or it was

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Speaker 6: recently got my hands on my actual ill adelph tape.

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Speaker 1: You know, I do, I do. I should have brought it. Damn,

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Speaker 1: I definitely should have brought it.

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Speaker 6: I got the Green Cup my home boy from from Philly,

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Speaker 6: if you go on my Instagram, I actually show it

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Speaker 6: then show my Grammy, like to see where I came

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Speaker 1: It started, how it was going, yeah, how it was going. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So for you, what was your first musical memory.

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Speaker 6: My first musical memory for me is being in Germantown

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Speaker 6: older kids having the younger kids say the.

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Speaker 1: Roof, the roof, the roof is on fire.

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Speaker 6: We don't need no water, Let it burn, let it

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Speaker 6: burn it, and they left out motherfucker. Like I vivially

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Speaker 6: remember years later being like, damn, I didn't know they

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Speaker 6: let it burn, Let it Burn. And then I mean,

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Speaker 6: my dad was a big duop guy, so I definitely

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Speaker 6: definitely wanting Adidas because of my Adidas, like I didn't

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Speaker 1: Anybody from Puerto Rico that remembers, uh.

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Speaker 1: In the hotel management.

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Speaker 3: They threatened like, if you don't renegotiate our contract, we're

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Speaker 3: had a New Year's gig in Lancaster, PA that night,

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Speaker 3: December thirtieth, flew back to the States and came back

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Speaker 3: home with all these messages like are you guys alive?

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Speaker 6: For you?

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Speaker 3: And then we found out that there was an explosion

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Speaker 3: in the DuPont Plaza. I think like eighteen people died

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Speaker 3: or whatever. But the whole point was there was an

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Speaker 3: when Adidas made Top ten Adidas the red, blue and

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Speaker 1: There was like the twelve ninety and not case with either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's it and that's where right, and that's

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Speaker 3: when like you had to run your shoes down before

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Speaker 3: you got another pair of shoes.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, just all in seventh grade, I.

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Speaker 3: Just got laughed at because you know, I got a

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Speaker 3: pleather thriller suit and I got four stripes in my Adidas.

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Speaker 6: Well, similar, Yeah, I got the wrong I felt like

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Speaker 6: I didn't get the right add this. I'll never forget that,

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Speaker 6: I see, I see.

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Speaker 1: But for you, when did.

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Speaker 6: At least turntablism, Like when did that attract you? So

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Speaker 6: for me, I grew when I grew up, you know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the first like piece of vinyl that I

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Speaker 6: got was this actual, this compilation vinyl was it was

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Speaker 6: called like street Rap and.

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Speaker 3: Like KTL Records joined or something. It had to be

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Speaker 6: I don't remember where where I got it, but and

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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, we went. He went to Central with me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So you know, I grew up going to like

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Speaker 6: I always wanted to go to a charter schoolgory. I

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Speaker 6: Man soundtrack Heavy D was Who's the Man? Partying bullshit

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know it was this was around the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had that. Oh my god, how do you

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Speaker 4: Well, I had access to one, that one that was

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Speaker 6: I remember I used to write my grandparents, my mother's

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Speaker 6: And then I would do little gigs here and there,

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Speaker 1: What else would you do?

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Speaker 3: All gift money, no job yet.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have a job. Now this was all. This

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't get a job to like eleven twelfth grade,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, maybe go across the street from Central and

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 6: guess it was. Was it a temple?

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Speaker 1: It was?

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Speaker 6: It was for the premiere of Past the Popcorn video,

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Speaker 6: Damn Wow. And there was a there was a young

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Speaker 6: the premiere Past the Popcorn and that was where we

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Abdul Jackson and Kevin Dreer.

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Speaker 1: I forget. Damn man, you just took me back on

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Speaker 1: some joints. Man, I totally forgot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, y'all had a premiere party for that video, right.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, like my last my last day at Roughhouse

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Speaker 3: just you know, I just through spaghetti and the walls

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Speaker 3: even stuck. And I just having to ask Chris Wartz

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Speaker 1: In a different mind state.

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Speaker 3: And I was just like, hey, you know, or he

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Speaker 3: even get it, you know, an offer? But he just

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Speaker 3: he was just that day, he just like, okay, how

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Speaker 3: much I was like five thousand, Wow, you'll need to

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Speaker 3: have in thousands. It was like seventy five hundreds. And

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Speaker 3: I to do organics, No, to do the past popcorns

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Speaker 3: and we shot past the popcorn on Thanksgiving morning.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Like yeah, shout out to Chris Warts of rough

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00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: House Record.

440
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 6: And I remember too, my other friends used to be

441
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 6: cool with Kenyata. I used to look up to, Yeah,

442
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 6: I used to look up to yacht like but but no,

443
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 6: it was it was for them. It was a hobby

444
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 6: for me. It was still you know, I thought I

445
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 6: was gonna wind up going to NYU and being film

446
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 6: school and be a director, like at the time, that's

447
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 6: that's but I love DJing like it was, it was

448
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 6: my thing. So I definitely had, you know, without even realizing,

449
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 6: was putting way more time and effort into my DJ career.

450
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 6: And then you know, I had my stuff in my

451
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 6: in my room at my mother's house. And then it

452
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 6: got to a point when the traffic of the friends

453
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 6: coming over and us trying to make little freestyle tapes

454
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 6: and everything. She she got fed up because it was

455
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 6: like ten ten thirty and she was like, yo, it's

456
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 6: too loud, and so she lot, she let me move

457
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 6: to the basement and I moved. You know, that was

458
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 6: my first studio in the basement of my mom's house,

459
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 6: and we used to be down there boom bapping all

460
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 6: day after school every day. And that's where I made

461
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 6: ladelf and you know, I started. My sister took me

462
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 6: to New York between ninth and tenth grade and we

463
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 6: went to Harlem and on one hundred and twenty fifth,

464
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 6: they still had the vendors and I bought That's when

465
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 6: I bought my first mixtape, DJs ands Old School Part

466
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 6: two And the reason why I bought that tape was

467
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 6: because all the songs that were on there, when I

468
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 6: would go to to the record stores, I couldn't get

469
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 6: those songs on violin anymore because they were unless they

470
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 6: were the you know, the bootleg copies and everything. So

471
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 6: I bought SNS Old School Part two and I was

472
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 6: just literally blown away, like by that tape by S's

473
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 6: talk game like how he was putting records together and

474
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 6: hence that just really started my fascination with like mixtape culture.

475
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 6: And then you know, Clue kind of was coming up

476
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 6: on the scene. And when I would get Clue tapes

477
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 6: from the layup and things like I would i would

478
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 6: feel like when I would go to school, I'd be like, oh,

479
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 6: y'all don't know about this yet, Like y'all don't have

480
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 6: this premiere Jarew remix or you know this this new

481
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 6: Bigie Grand puba Tupac song. Like so I would feel

482
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 6: ahead of the curve, and you know, I was just that,

483
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 6: you know, and when it came to like DJing, and like,

484
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 6: you know, there were battle DJs, there was radio DJs,

485
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 6: there was you know, party DJs, and there were mixtape DJs,

486
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 6: but the mixtape DJ for me was always just like

487
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 6: larger than life.

488
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: So for Philadelphians, the layup my current production manager Keith McFee,

489
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 3: kind of opened kind of like Phillies. I don't know

490
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: if it's the first culture store, but it was like

491
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 3: the spot where, yeah, it was like the spot where

492
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: you get like what was like first skateboard and get

493
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 3: like fresh jive yo or excuse you could get to

494
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 3: see yeah, those Triple five, those hoodies early Echo. It's

495
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: not that I was like, yeah, those I can't remember.

496
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 3: It's the even though skateboard pants that are like the

497
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: big at the bottom yeah forty.

498
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the forty waist Johns that were super big. Yeah.

499
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: So that's and that's pretty much like that was just

500
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 3: like the cultural epicenter. That's where like mixtapes were you

501
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 3: get cry line, spray paint.

502
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: You get to catch all those things and everything they have.

503
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: The white man.

504
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: Yes with the yeah, those things you're talking about.

505
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 4: It looks like you see like five white boys at

506
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 4: lunch playing Hackey sacking.

507
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

508
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: I would rock that ship all the time. It never showers,

509
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: so all the fun of the world side of the.

510
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, I mean, only the only reason why

511
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 3: dudes would shower in the twenties is if a woman

512
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 3: is involved or whatever, like their future partner.

513
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: But you know, come back, come back, come back, come back. Yeah,

514
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm coming back anyway. Who is the DJ?

515
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm trying my rock the bells thing, just like

516
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 3: Jeff does my cash money thing whatever. But for me,

517
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: I will say that like cosmic keV is probably the

518
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: sensey DJ that I always have in my head when

519
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: I'm doing a set or whatever, like you're always gonna

520
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 3: emulate someone because like if you're making beats, when you

521
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: get your drum machine, you start to you know, all right,

522
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: let me see if I could do bloh blah blah

523
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: blah that sort of.

524
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: Thing for you as a DJ? Who were those DJs?

525
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: Who was the sensey Like what was the mix that

526
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 3: was sort of like damn, I gotta well, I mean,

527
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 3: or were you even into turntablism.

528
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 6: Or absolutely I was gonna tell you, I mean, because

529
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 6: there was so For me, it was a few. I

530
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 6: mean definitely probably first it was DJ Rand because I

531
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 6: forgot yeah, because before.

532
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'm still spinning, right. He was like with

533
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: the w W. Yeah, I'm not sure that shot shot

534
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: the cosmic k to. He just took me on a

535
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: superhistory lesson, Like was he.

536
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 3: Nice about it? keV?

537
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah. We talked for like two hours,

538
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: gently exchanging nice words.

539
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 6: We discussed like his relationship with Ran and how things

540
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 6: came about and how you know it went from Ran

541
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,239
Speaker 6: to keV and you know, but when of course as

542
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 6: it as a as a youngster, like it was Kobe

543
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 6: Cob and DJ Ran on Radioactive every Friday night. So

544
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 6: you know, people don't really like this is obviously before

545
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 6: we had you know, you can go and you can

546
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 6: go on YouTube, Hulu, anything and watch anything hip hop

547
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 6: you want. Back in the day, we only had certain outlets,

548
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 6: so you would run home to catch Rahap City or

549
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 6: Friday night I would be tuned in to Radioactive to

550
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 6: hear it.

551
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: So oh you know who else too?

552
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

553
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: Yeah it's fucking Jay Ski.

554
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah oh yeah, talk about GOTAM.

555
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: Because what was the station was one O three? Yeah

556
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: something you stupid?

557
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 5: He came to his birthday party.

558
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 3: Damn on.

559
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 6: So on the radio side, it was definitely Ran, keV

560
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 6: and Jay Ski and then in Philly for me it

561
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 6: was DJ Ghetto and Ghetto was like, yes, you know, yeah,

562
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 6: Ghetto used to be our d m C champion. He

563
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 6: would he would go up against Rock Raider Rest in

564
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 6: Peace and you know, do his DMC thing, and like,

565
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 6: you know, Ghetto has another cousin named Evil Tracy too.

566
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: But but Ghetto like Ghetto.

567
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 6: Kind of like you know, took me in as a

568
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 6: youngster and was trying to kind of show me how

569
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 6: to really cut and scratch and you know, do things

570
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 6: on his level. I could never get it down to

571
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 6: to to that degree, but Ghetto definitely like befriended me

572
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 6: as a as a young DJ too, and Philly, so

573
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 6: I salute to him. So those were the guys that

574
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 6: I was around or were listening to early on. So

575
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 6: when you're in the dramatic era, are are you? Do

576
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 6: you have a regular residency?

577
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: Are you now? High school?

578
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: So Dances is the first club I ever.

579
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: Dj' at dance.

580
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 6: It was for Juwan Lee's birthday party. Juan Lee, he's

581
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 6: the director. He works with Benny Boom. He does a

582
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 6: lot of stuff now too, my brother to this day,

583
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 6: I just saw him the other day. But yeah, that

584
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 6: was my first actual club gig was was Juwan's birthday

585
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 6: party of dances.

586
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: This might have been like eleventh grade. And then I

587
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: was just doing like I would.

588
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 6: Get hired to do like block parties or like birthday

589
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 6: parties of you know, kids that I went to school with,

590
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 6: or you know that I knew around town or what

591
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 6: have you.

592
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: And and then you know, we had to I remember

593
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: we had this crew.

594
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 6: That it was this crib off Gerard Avenue that we

595
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 6: lived at, and I used to do a lot of

596
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 6: their functions. So you know, I was I was getting

597
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 6: you know, gigs here and there, just like around Philly

598
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 6: as a as a kid.

599
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: Now as far as your creative output is concerned, and

600
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: and then I specifically want to kind of go step

601
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: by step.

602
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: That is why I'm like leaning, there's a lot so

603
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: for you, are.

604
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: You in the mind state of serve my audience or

605
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: like I, I'm very selfish with my DJing, and I

606
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: do it like I'm like Prince doing Darling Nikki. No

607
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: one cares about the music but yourself. Yeah, And but

608
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: I also know that I have a shield of protection

609
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: that will allow me to play a mister Rogers song

610
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: or I can play the number song by the porn

611
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: of sisters on Sesame Street kind of get you know,

612
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: they're like, what the hell is he playing? Like yeah,

613
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 3: that quest loves so crazy, Like I know I can

614
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 3: do rogue shit, right, and you know, and oftentimes the

615
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: openers are like, yo, man, like that was crazy you

616
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: did that? Because even one time, I think Fonte mentioned

617
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: that someone spun return to Forever something it or weather report.

618
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 4: Yeah it was out of who it was the dy

619
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 4: It wasn't things Steel Parish.

620
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, well he's known for dared Devil shit.

621
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: But my whole point is that as a DJ, you

622
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: kind of have two choices, which is serve the people

623
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: or establish yourself. So at the time and oftentimes, like

624
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: opening DJs have it the hardest because they gotta you

625
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: gotta keep them on the floor.

626
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: You can't.

627
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: I remember once an opening DJ got in trouble. He

628
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: had like an early copy of Brooklyn Zoo, and I

629
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 3: think that might have been too you know, of course,

630
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: you know it's like, oh the new Woutangelo, Okay, but

631
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 3: it wasn't. The club owner was like no, no, you

632
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: know that sort of thing. So for you, were you

633
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: facing any sort of venue structure that would tell you

634
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: like this is what we want and just play R

635
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: and B or so not in Philly.

636
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: When I was in Philly, I was.

637
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 6: Very u burn, very East Coast with my taste in

638
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 6: music and what I would play, Like I remember, I

639
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 6: would do parties and want to play Doctor Octagon.

640
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: Wow, oh Jesus Christ. Yeah, like that's where I was at.

641
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: Like I would try to make blue Flowers. Yeah, exactly

642
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: like I was.

643
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: That's where. That's where I was at in my Philly days.

644
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 6: And you know, I wanted to play fucking Smith and

645
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 6: Wesson album cuts and just you know, I didn't get

646
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 6: to to the stage or era of pleasing the crowd

647
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 6: or my audience until I moved to Atlanta.

648
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: Atlanta Atlanta did it.

649
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: And I don't want to do I don't even want

650
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: to frame it like it's a compromise, because I do

651
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: think that you're either going to be an effective DJ, yeah,

652
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: or we're going to be a teachable lesson DJ.

653
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

654
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 6: Well, I was blessed in my career to be able

655
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 6: to be that later on because of who I became

656
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 6: and who I was. So once I became DJ Drama,

657
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 6: it's like, Okay, when they come to see me, they

658
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 6: also want to be able to I can, you know,

659
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 6: introduce them to something or be a little more stubborn.

660
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 6: But it's really going to Clarkland University and being in

661
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 6: the AUC for me coming from Philly, where I would

662
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 6: have people from d C who wanted to hear Go Go,

663
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 6: I would have, you know, people from the West Coast

664
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 6: who wanted to hear ship from La or the Bay,

665
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 6: or I would have people from Texas who wanted to

666
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 6: hear screw or what have you.

667
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: So it taught me how to be well rounded.

668
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: Okay, So and that's.

669
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: That's where I was going to go next.

670
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: You know the whole I mean, especially now you you

671
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: kind of morphed into your dramaus before the age of

672
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: cell phones. So the whole idea of someone the phone

673
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: on your face. Yeah, like, I hate I'm a no

674
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: request person, gotcha. And that's where my ego gets me

675
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: in trouble.

676
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not like that. So you're you're people. You're

677
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: a person of the people. I am for your person

678
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: and people.

679
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.

680
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 6: I like when people like if I go to Vegas

681
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 6: and it's eight women who keep putting bad Bunny on

682
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 6: their phone, I gotta play fucking bad Bunny.

683
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: Even to this day, you're not offended. Like, motherfucker, I'm

684
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 3: DJ Drama like I created stars. You don't tell Picasso

685
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: what the paint? See that I got a but that's

686
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: not that's not the capacity he's there to serve that night.

687
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

688
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 6: It's like, yeah, I mean there's it depends like it

689
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 6: depends on the gig too, like if I get it

690
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 6: like a hipster New York gig for like I did

691
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 6: something for United Masters and you know, at that night

692
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 6: they booked me, like I know they want to hear

693
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 6: drama ship, Like I'm gonna play Canon Remix and I'm

694
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 6: gonna you know, go in and play some Gucci or

695
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 6: go here with it. But you know, if I'm at

696
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 6: my Vegas residency, like I'm there to Vegas, yeah, like

697
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 6: I'm not at the same Like I'm still trauma, so

698
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 6: I'm not about to fist pump that thing out.

699
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: Have you ever had a.

700
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: I mean moment or at least that was sort of

701
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: the ship back in twenty fourteen.

702
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I've played those records at times like

703
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 6: what but that's not the majority of my set, Like

704
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 6: I know when they booked me like they want to

705
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 6: they come there for certain right, Yeah, people give them

706
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 6: like when they when I go even to Vegas, like

707
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 6: and you know, Vegas has had a transition at time

708
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 6: where it's become much more hip hop driven than it was.

709
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 6: But I'm just saying, like when I go to gigs,

710
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 6: like people want to hear DJ drama, be DJ drama.

711
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

712
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: So it's like, but is it confusing now at this

713
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 3: stage in your life where Okay, so say and now

714
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: I'm that that I would associate you with like any

715
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 3: canon records. So let's say like Go Crazy, right, which

716
00:35:54,960 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 3: came out in two Yeah, which to guy. To me,

717
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 3: I'm still like, oh that's new rap even though that's

718
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 3: old school right.

719
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: No, no, no, so no, I mean I was confusing now, No,

720
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: not for me.

721
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 6: Because I go with the times that I go, Like

722
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 6: I just got off a tour with Wiz and Logic,

723
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 6: for instance. So but and the blessing for me is though,

724
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 6: is that that's not like as much as there is

725
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 6: an audience that knows me for that. When I get

726
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 6: on stage at the Whiz Khalifan Logic show, I start

727
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 6: with a tiler to create a record, and then I

728
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 6: go into a dream I play stick off the Dreamfield

729
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 6: tape because that's still my ship, like it's still off

730
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 6: a gangster grills.

731
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 5: That's when DJ dramatic to me kind of enters the

732
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 5: thing I hate. I know you, I don't know if

733
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 5: you hate when I go DJ dramatic or drama, but

734
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 5: it's just.

735
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 6: How I can when you was a man, but I

736
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 6: was drama first though. I mean, it wasn't like I

737
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 6: was dramatic. I was drama and then I tried to

738
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 6: change it to dramatic and then I went back. So

739
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 6: it wasn't like I was originally DJ dramatic.

740
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 5: I was.

741
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,959
Speaker 1: I was DJ drama first.

742
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 5: But you okay, I'll accept that. But you know, when

743
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 5: I say dramatic, it's also like to an era, a

744
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 5: time when you did have a certain lane you were

745
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 5: in that.

746
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 3: You have, Well, what happened was it?

747
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

748
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 6: I mean, like, as much as much as I was

749
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 6: putting into gangster girls, I was putting into automatic relaxation.

750
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: One just took off from the other.

751
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: Okay, So let me ask you when you decided to

752
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 3: go to Clark University Yep, Clark Atlanta, and I assume

753
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: that you're transporting your your equipment with you, so that's important,

754
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: Like you already know that in your dorm that your

755
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 3: big ass speakers and your records and your turntables had

756
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 3: to come with me, are coming with you? Okay, absolutely

757
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: no question without it. Were your parents like what the

758
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 3: hell are you doing? Like you're in a dorm?

759
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 6: They you know, I mean by that point, I was

760
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 6: already like kind of you know, they had they it

761
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 6: was clear that I was on a certain path, and

762
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 6: I was, you know, this DJ thing was.

763
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: Going to happen in college, not just some high school thing.

764
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 6: And yeah, I don't Yeah, I don't know if they knew.

765
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 6: I mean, clearly they didn't see this happening, like you know,

766
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 6: I mean my mom even after school, was concerned about

767
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 6: me getting a real quote unquote real job.

768
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean when I got to school, like

769
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: it was, you know, I brought my Philly hustle with me.

770
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 6: Like like I will tell you, like freshman year, when

771
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 6: everybody was freak nicked out, I bought a bunch of

772
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 6: T shirts from this guy named Moot, and I was

773
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 6: hustling T shirts during freaknik Like I didn't partake in

774
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 6: none of the activities like or I would set up

775
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 6: on campus on we had these green trash cans and

776
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 6: I had this little yellow radio, and I would like

777
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 6: hustle my mixtapes in between classes.

778
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: So how did you find an outlet to establish yourself

779
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: in Atlanta?

780
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: Well, I mean outlet was the AUC. It was our world.

781
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean there was enough and.

782
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 5: Market at Marcos. You feel like working at Marco's too, was?

783
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean Marco's people hadn't go to college.

784
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 6: You see the Atlanta University Atlanta University Center, so that's

785
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 6: Clark Atlanta, that's Morris Brown at the time, that's more

786
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 6: House of Spellman. So you literally have four story black

787
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 6: colleges and universities right and one epicenter. So there's multitudes

788
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 6: of parties and gigs available.

789
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: So I was did you try to find your flock

790
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 3: or no, I can't, Or were you like, okay, what

791
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: are they endo down here?

792
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 6: It just happened naturally, because you know, as you start

793
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 6: doing gigs, I mean you realize, oh, I got it

794
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 6: people from everywhere. So you know, I learned very early

795
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 6: on and I shot to my man DJ Sense and

796
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 6: since is also from Philly, we met freshman year, and

797
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 6: he kind of was a little more commercially driven than

798
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 6: I was at the time, Like I was real backpack

799
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 6: wrap and he was like bad boy.

800
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

801
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 6: So us doing gigs together, he kind of helped influence

802
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 6: and inspire me to get you know. He yelled at

803
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 6: me one time I cut the Benjamin's off too early,

804
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 6: oh lot a gig.

805
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: He was like, bro, like, you can't cut it off

806
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: at this part.

807
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 6: And he was right, you know what I'm saying, So

808
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 6: us doing gigs together, I kind of got more into

809
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 6: my commercial bag. And you know, because I still even

810
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 6: when I was in school, when I was doing these

811
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 6: college gigs, I was still DJing lyricist lounges. I was

812
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 6: still at yin Yang cafe, you know what I mean,

813
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 6: Like I was, I was still into that world.

814
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: So I was. I was bouncing between worlds in a way.

815
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 3: Who was the DJ down here that was your oh

816
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: shit or your kaiser. So it's a coffee mug, slow

817
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: drop realization thing that this is some next shit down

818
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 3: here that I.

819
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: Have to first.

820
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 6: There was DJ Nabs. Nabs was the ultimate. I mean,

821
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 6: he was on the radio, he was on television, he

822
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 6: was he had Kai, He had Nabs in a lab

823
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 6: at club kaya Sunday night, which was just the ultimate experience.

824
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 6: And then I think for me it probably was DJ Mars.

825
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 6: Mars also at the time was you know, he used

826
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 6: to be on he had to be t gigs, so

827
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 6: he was doing what was that show called It was

828
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 6: one of them shows.

829
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: Mars was on the radio, you know, he was on

830
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: every day, and he was in the club.

831
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 6: So he was like one of you know, one of

832
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 6: those like the guys that we looked towards as like, damn,

833
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 6: that's the next level. So and he It's funny because

834
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 6: I did the same thing with you too. I know

835
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 6: you don't remember this, but I used to like write

836
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 6: for this like little magazine or like little zine, and

837
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 6: I went and did an interview with Mars. That's how

838
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 6: I like got I introduced myself to him. I went

839
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 6: to go interview him at the station and then I

840
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 6: handed him one of my mixtapes and he was like, Yo,

841
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 6: this shit's hot. And oddly enough, when you guys came

842
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 6: to Atlanta one time, I did the same thing with you.

843
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 6: I was I did an interview with you for the

844
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 6: magazine and That was how I first found out about Dyla,

845
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 6: because this was the era where you were dial it

846
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 6: out and you were just you told me, like, yo,

847
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 6: all we do was listening to slum Village and this

848
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 6: is mid late nineties and everything, and yeah, so I

849
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 6: would kind of, you know, wiggle my way in. However,

850
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 6: whatever to you know, get my name out there or

851
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 6: get my tapes in people's hands.

852
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 3: Like I feel like Atlanta really found itself with what

853
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 3: I organized Noise and now casting all this established absolutely so.

854
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 3: But the thing is is that I didn't call it

855
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: anything like I know, like New Orleans's bounce and there's

856
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 3: bass music in Miami.

857
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 8: But what was.

858
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: Atlanta's culture before trap? Like does first of all, does

859
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 3: Atlanta own what we know as trap?

860
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely so?

861
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 6: What was before the BC era of that? It was

862
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 6: Dungeon Family. I mean, so you think I moved here

863
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 6: in ninety six? Ninety six El Adelph Half Life came out,

864
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 6: ninety six, at Aliens came out, Luddy Waters, Right Man,

865
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 6: Luddy Waters came out, Reasonable Mob Deep second album came

866
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 6: out on Ner Hell on Earth came out Score And

867
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 6: I have and I have an elevator's question to ask

868
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 6: you because I came right when elevators kind of hit.

869
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 3: Okay, so let me ask you something, all right, And

870
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: why is elevators like my new Latin quarters.

871
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: So many treasures, we can go so much. I gotta talk,

872
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: I want to say, like, so just while we're here,

873
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: all right.

874
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 3: So when we asked you know, La Read and Organized Noise,

875
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: my thing was I would ask them why would they

876
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: take such a risk with the sonic choice of elevators. Yes,

877
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: it's a masterpiece of a song, but but who knew

878
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: at the time. I was just like, yo, who would

879
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: ever put like a song that's like eighty six bpms

880
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 3: which was very slow at the time compared to what

881
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: was hitting. And it was just everything about that song

882
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 3: was just like it was a risk. It was a

883
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 3: hell mary throw that got caught. And you know, Organized

884
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: Noise explained that, you know, they leaked the first and

885
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: of course La, we really wanted Atlans to come out

886
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: there first.

887
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: They put it, they took it to the radio station

888
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: and just like it forced it right right.

889
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: And then but as a DJ, like, could you explain

890
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 3: to me the effect that that song had on or

891
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 3: just at the time, like, yeah, I mean it was Atlanta,

892
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: so Again, there was when when when at Aliens dropped,

893
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: just you know, the the pride and the the sonics

894
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 3: and the creativity of that album.

895
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 6: You know, Southern playlistic was already a thing, right, and

896
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 6: then at Aliens came and it was like, oh, these

897
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 6: these boys is different, you know. I mean that was

898
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 6: the era when three thousand was walking around with the

899
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 6: turbine and you know, Goodie Mob had you know, dropped

900
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 6: and everything.

901
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: So it was like, I just think the.

902
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 6: Pride and you know, I hear stories about before Outcasts

903
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 6: about how you would go to certain clubs in Atlanta

904
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 6: like Warehouse and and people would almost want to kind

905
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 6: of act like they were from New York, you know,

906
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 6: and then he.

907
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: Just said, yeah, they just said that.

908
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 6: And then it was Outcast that was almost brought that

909
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 6: pride out where it made people in Atlanta feel proud

910
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 6: to be from Atlanta or from the South, you know

911
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So yeah, so before the Trap era,

912
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 6: you know, Atlanta was was defined by Dungeon family, by

913
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 6: so so deaf and you know, by the Face records,

914
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 6: and that was that was the you know, the the

915
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 6: trifecta of what Atlanta was.

916
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 3: So when you are down here. At what point the

917
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: cast of characters that were known as the Affiliates, how

918
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: are they amalcalmating themselves in your life?

919
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: Like are you meeting them now this point?

920
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 6: So I met DJ Sence literally the first day I

921
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 6: get to school in Clark, Atlanta, AGAT. We go to

922
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 6: the dorm to Brawley Hall and my room number was

923
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 6: two one five, crazy right, And and then somebody told sense, hey,

924
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 6: you know there's a DJ on the second floor from Philly,

925
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 6: and he had told he told me it kind of

926
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 6: already heard about me in Philly. Like, you know, it's

927
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 6: crazy to think I had a little buzz, but he had,

928
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 6: you know, he knew about me.

929
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: So we like battled. We battled in my room, like the.

930
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 6: First first day we met, just kind of going back

931
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 6: and forth on the turntables, cutting the scratching. And then

932
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 6: you know, we were doing parties together and we were

933
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 6: you know, like a dynamic duo and just you know,

934
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 6: people would book me or book him, or we would

935
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 6: go together and we would do all the parties. And

936
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 6: then my next year, this tall, lanky kid gets on

937
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 6: campus and like he had heard about me, and he

938
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 6: kind of was like, Yo, my name's Donny Brasco.

939
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm from Philly and I'm a DJ. I make beats.

940
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 6: And I was kind of you know Kyle, you know

941
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 6: him and Kyle went to school together, so Kyle kind

942
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 6: of like would have sour taste in my mouth early on,

943
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 6: like that that Cannon was a.

944
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: Nut Kyle, Kyle was part of.

945
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: It was a whole crew of Philly dudes. As it

946
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 3: was Dame Dame.

947
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 5: North Carolina.

948
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Chris, Chris and Eily, it was Dame.

949
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 6: It was me Since and I had like my school crew,

950
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 6: and then I had like my Rubik's Jack's and you know,

951
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 6: my hip hop, my Binkers Crew, but.

952
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: Rest in peace to my brother Jack's.

953
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 6: But so so finally Cannon woud up giving me a

954
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 6: beat CD and I went home and I listened to

955
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 6: it and I was like, yo, this ship is fucking fire.

956
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 6: So next day I see him on campus, I'm like, yo, yo,

957
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 6: I've listened to your beat tape. That's it's hard, like

958
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 6: you know, come through the cribs. So it went from

959
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 6: me and Since to me Since and Cannon, and then

960
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 6: we were just the three of us were like you know,

961
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 6: damn there inseparable, like doing while we were in school,

962
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 6: and we would do a bunch of gigs together just

963
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 6: support each other, or you know, when I was selling tapes,

964
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 6: like Cannon and Sense would make their tapes and I would,

965
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 6: you know, I would sell them all and we would

966
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 6: just do events together.

967
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: But the way the Affiliates came.

968
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 6: About is because there was a crew called the super Friends,

969
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 6: which was DJ Mars, DJ Trauma. Uh, there was a

970
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 6: cowboy was in there. Fahrenheit shot him was super Friends

971
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 6: and they made us part. They We were like the

972
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 6: youngest of the crew and they you know, invited us

973
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 6: in and DJ Trauma that is currently okay, and you know,

974
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 6: it was you know, that was one of the reasons

975
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 6: why I tried to change my name to Dramatic. It's

976
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 6: because of Trauma, because Trauma and his name is Tiri

977
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 6: had at the time, and he was on the radio

978
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 6: and he was on fire, and it was like everywhere

979
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 6: I would go and try to say I'm DJ Drama,

980
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 6: They'd be like Trauma and I'd be like, no, Trauma,

981
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 6: and it just used to frustrate me, like like, man,

982
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 6: I'm about to just change my name. And Mar you know,

983
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 6: interestingly enough was like yo, don't change your name for nobody,

984
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 6: and Trauma was his best friend, but he, you know,

985
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 6: he said, you know, don't change your name for nobody, Like,

986
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 6: if that's your name, that's your name. So we were

987
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 6: part of the super Friends and we were really trying

988
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 6: to be focused, like on mixtapes, and super Friends were

989
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 6: very party driven and we kind of we went through

990
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 6: a little disagreement at the time. As my memory serves me,

991
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 6: Jacob York offered the super Friends opportunity to do an album,

992
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 6: and we were kind of already, you know, feeling a

993
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 6: certain type of way because you know, we weren't like

994
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 6: they were getting all the gigs, and you know, we

995
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 6: were trying to make our name. We couldn't get no

996
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 6: sponsorship for the mixtapes because they were getting on a

997
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 6: sponsorship for the parties and everything. And they were like, Yo,

998
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 6: if we do an album, let's call it Gangster Grills

999
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 6: because that's the strongest brand out of all of us.

1000
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 6: And I was like, I don't know, I don't want

1001
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 6: to call the super Friends album Gangster Grills, Like that's

1002
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 6: my shit. So they basically, wait, when did you morphins

1003
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 6: you gangster grills? I was I started Gangster Grills in

1004
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 6: two thousand, so by like three oh four had become

1005
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 6: a thing like where it was. You know, I Little

1006
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 6: John was the first person to host it. So I

1007
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 6: used his voice on Gangster Grills four and it was

1008
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 6: still just like a compilation at the time. And you

1009
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 6: know I did like Gangster Girls five, and I just

1010
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 6: kept using John's voice, Right, how did you So how

1011
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 6: do you.

1012
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: Approach an artist?

1013
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: Because for a lot of the artists that were in

1014
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: Gangster Grills mixtape, like as an outsider, I didn't know

1015
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 3: none of those people. So you know, I'm hearing TI

1016
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 3: for the first time right here, like everyone that you

1017
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 3: put on Jesus Travi GZ and all those six even

1018
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 3: like really the first time I really paid attention to

1019
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 3: Wayne and all that stuff is really on Gangster Grill. So, like,

1020
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: how are you propositioning them and approaching them to do

1021
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: these things? Each situation is difference in a way.

1022
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 6: But like Little John was since was working at the

1023
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 6: station and and Circe and Little John were partners in

1024
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 6: BMME and John used to be up there all the time.

1025
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 6: And you know John, he's one of the most down

1026
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 6: to earth, humble guys in the world.

1027
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: And I literally just asked him.

1028
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 6: You know, this was the time when I was paying

1029
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 6: attention to what was going on on the East Coast,

1030
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 6: and I asked him, like, yo, would you host a

1031
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 6: mixtape for me? And he was like sure, and he

1032
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 6: came to my crib in the fourth Ward and hence

1033
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 6: the Gangster Grizzils Drop was born, and you know he

1034
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 6: hosted the tape. Jason Jeter is the first person to

1035
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 6: ever call me. He got my number off the back

1036
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 6: of a mixtape from the barbershop. Now think about this.

1037
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 6: I get a thousand DMS a day about artists trying

1038
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 6: to get on. The first phone call I ever got

1039
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 6: was from Jason Jeter and he was like, Hey, my

1040
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 6: name is Jason Jeter. I have this new artist signed

1041
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 6: to LaFace. We have a song with Beanie Siegual called

1042
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 6: two Blocks nine. I got one of your mixtapes. I

1043
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 6: want to bring him through to freestyle all on one

1044
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 6: of your tapes. And I was like all right, sure,

1045
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 6: cool whatever. So I seen you don't know, never met

1046
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 6: Tip never, wasn't even familiar with the two Glocks, not

1047
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 6: a record yet. So he literally comes to the crib.

1048
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 6: Jeter and Tip super shy and quiet at the time.

1049
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 6: You know, I had my equipment in like where the

1050
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 6: laundry room would be. He comes in there, I pick

1051
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 6: a beat. I picked the for the fan beat, the

1052
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 6: Rockefeller Ye with the one with a mill and everybody

1053
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 6: on it, and he freestyled on that and at the

1054
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 6: end of the freestyle he said, you know, King of

1055
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 6: the South. And I remember once him and Jeter left,

1056
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 6: I went the sense like, yo, this nigga said, he's

1057
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 6: the King of the South, like he's tripping like. So

1058
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 6: that was literally our introduction. And then you know, Jeter

1059
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 6: was also from Jersey, so he was paying attention to

1060
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 6: my mixtape Grind and what I was doing, and they

1061
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 6: were kind of you know, once things didn't work out

1062
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 6: between them and La Reid, they got on their mixtape Grind.

1063
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: So we were kind of both coming up at the

1064
00:52:59,600 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: same time.

1065
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 6: Where I lived on Glenn Iris, Coach K lived around

1066
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 6: the corner from me.

1067
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: Ah okay, we got cool with Coach K.

1068
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 6: He had this group called Jadis, who Bobby Creek Order

1069
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 6: was a part of who later outside to Shady. That

1070
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 6: was Coach K's first group, and then he also used

1071
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 6: to work for Alan Henderson in Hindu when Alan Henderson

1072
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 6: had a record label, but we got cool with Coach

1073
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 6: K and then he told me like, yo, I got

1074
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 6: this this artist from making. His name is g Z

1075
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 6: and he had an album out. The first album they

1076
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 6: put out was called Come Shop with Me and then Jeez.

1077
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 6: I would Coach would bring g Z over and I

1078
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 6: would make show CDs for Jez. I would charge them

1079
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 6: like one hundred dollars and he would come and I

1080
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 6: would He would just he would he was doing shows

1081
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 6: and making and I would like make CD. He would

1082
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 6: take instrumentals, whatever instrumentals were hot at the time, and

1083
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 6: I would just make him a little like show CDs

1084
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 6: to put together. As Gangster Girls was becoming a thing.

1085
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 6: So then I did like John tape then like I

1086
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 6: think Scrappy hosted one. Then Jeter called me and was like, yo,

1087
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 6: I've been listening to the tapes. I got this idea,

1088
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 6: let's do an all t I and PSC Gangster Grills.

1089
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: And I was like, bet, you know.

1090
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 6: And at the time, I'm I'm just fascinated by Green

1091
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 6: Lantern and who Kid and what Fifth is doing and

1092
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 6: what they're doing, and so Jeter and Tip gave me

1093
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 6: the opportunity to do the type of mixtape that I

1094
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 6: wanted to do.

1095
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 3: So you felt, because I'm just amazed that your amount

1096
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 3: of faith. It's so weird, like I need to have

1097
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 3: this conversation because I'm such a no now no, or

1098
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 3: who going to be there? Who are going to be there?

1099
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 3: Like that sort of thing and get me out of

1100
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 3: this or whatever. But it seems to me that your

1101
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 3: the key to your success is the word yes, absolutely yes,

1102
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: and absolutely give.

1103
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: When I go outside, I give my number to everybody. Wow.

1104
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 6: The worst thing that I can do is not answer.

1105
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 6: It's not right because I think about that all the time.

1106
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 6: What if I would have told Jeter no, Wow? So

1107
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 6: now I think about all the news I've told the

1108
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 6: Jeters in my life now, don't they Don't get me wrong,

1109
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 6: I've you know, I mean, I've missed out on some things.

1110
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 5: Have you?

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00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1112
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 3: Have you passed up on a moment that, like, damn

1113
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 3: I could have had? Blah blah blah. Of course name

1114
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 3: three three notable You probably worked with them since, but

1115
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 3: at least like you could at least introduce them to

1116
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 3: the world or whatever.

1117
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: I mean.

1118
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 6: I've said this before, but Drake definitely wanted a gangster

1119
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 6: grills very early on, all right, for sure, and you

1120
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 6: didn't know about him, or it was just like you

1121
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 6: were too busy or it was I just it didn't happen,

1122
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 6: you know. I mean he wentn't he because I mean

1123
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 6: he did a Southern Smalls tape like DJ Smalls, So

1124
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 6: at the time there was there was Southern smoking.

1125
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: It was Gangster Grills. So so, and then Bumby was

1126
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 1: a very early believer. So then I did the Tip.

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00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 6: I did the Tip Gangster Grills and that just like

1128
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 6: took off in the streets and it was like, you know,

1129
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 6: Tip was on fire, Gangster Grills was coming to thing,

1130
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 6: and you know that's that was the soundtrack of the

1131
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 6: streets in Atlanta and the t I P.

1132
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: S C Meets Gangster Girls.

1133
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 6: And then I did a tape for Bun and then

1134
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 6: I did a Gangster Grills party and I had like

1135
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 6: I had it. It was in Buckhead and I think

1136
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 6: Tip hosted, Bone Crusher hosted, I think David Banny. Yeah,

1137
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 6: I did a tape with David Banner, bone Crusher host

1138
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 6: and I was Gangst Girls like seven and was like

1139
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 6: that that was insane. That was a big one. But

1140
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 6: it was still a compilation at the time. So then

1141
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 6: coaching Jeezy took me out. They wanted to take me

1142
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 6: to lunch one day, so they took me to the

1143
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 6: spot called Harry and Sons and Jez tells me, Yo,

1144
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 6: I was at your party.

1145
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: Yo.

1146
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 6: I don't know how much you know, but the streets

1147
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 6: like fuck with you, you know. And I'm like, We're like,

1148
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 6: you know, I'm I'm in the streets something.

1149
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 3: We're aware of this.

1150
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very unaware. Like when he his his.

1151
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 3: Version, his what his streets are wasn't what my streets were,

1152
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 3: Like my streets were.

1153
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I was familiar, you know what I'm saying,

1154
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 6: because I was doing par parties for like BMF and

1155
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 6: things of that nature. But the streets for me were

1156
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 6: like going to the flea market and selling boxes of CDs.

1157
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 6: You know, you're not going to Bankhead or I'm going

1158
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 6: anywhere or I'm going anywhere that they sell CDs. I'm going,

1159
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 6: but I'm not, you know, in the streets. Yeah, I'm

1160
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 6: selling the mixtapes. I'm not selling nothing but mixtapes, right,

1161
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 6: you know. Yeah, So then you know, Jez tells me, like, yo,

1162
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 6: when Meach goes to campus, that's where he goes and

1163
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 6: gets his Gangster Girls from like he's listening to your

1164
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 6: ship and he's like, listen, I got this vision, like

1165
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 6: I want to do a Gangster Girls with you.

1166
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: Like he had it all mapped out and I was

1167
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: to I was listening like no doubt.

1168
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 6: But at the time I had never done a tape

1169
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 6: with somebody who wasn't known yet, and that was the

1170
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 6: first time I got paid for a tape. They gave

1171
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 6: me a thousand dollars and we did the tape. It

1172
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 6: was called Streets Is Watching.

1173
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 3: It was damn it changed my life with just tenills, Right,

1174
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 3: what the fuck?

1175
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: Why don't we go to you back then had a

1176
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: thousand bucks. Hey faved me a thousand dollars to do

1177
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: to tape. It was already working good.

1178
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1179
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: You was like, what are we talking about?

1180
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 3: Fifth record?

1181
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1182
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: How many you have?

1183
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1184
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, we still to this day.

1185
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 3: We it's almost like we cut like someone took us

1186
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 3: to the front of the bank line on a Friday.

1187
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I got we gotta go back to Baltic.

1188
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 3: Avenue and Mediterranean Avenue and Oriental Avenue, like we got

1189
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 3: park Place and all that stuff. But we realized that

1190
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 3: there's an early gap that we skipped and it doesn't matter,

1191
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 3: like I could have forty two oscars.

1192
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: We have to scratch that itch with black people.

1193
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 5: They never did like the conferences and stuff like the

1194
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 5: how how to be down Jack to wrap the impact.

1195
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: We wanted to, but you know GEFFN wouldn't have that,

1196
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: so anyway, so go go.

1197
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 6: So then yeah, So originally the tape was called G's Up,

1198
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 6: but that was the name of Scrappy's group at the time,

1199
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 6: so we changed the Streets Is Watching. So when I

1200
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 6: did Streets His Watch, and again, Gangster Grills was a

1201
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 6: bigger brand than Young Gez at the time. So we

1202
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 6: put the tape out and we put it out around

1203
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 6: Birthday bash Era, and you know, within a couple of months.

1204
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 6: I mean, I remember the first person ever teld me

1205
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 6: my man Jay who does Raw Report, who wound up

1206
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 6: doing the DVD with Giz for Trapp or Die.

1207
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: But I was on Glen Iris with my dad and

1208
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: he drove. He was driving by and he was like, Yo,

1209
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: that JEZ tape.

1210
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 6: That's the best Gangster Grills You've ever done. And I'm like,

1211
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 6: we're I just told JZ this other day and I

1212
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 6: was like, we're the new nigga like because I'm tied out,

1213
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like Tip the King, like

1214
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 6: I'm on fire with Tip and he's like, yo, the

1215
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 6: Jez tape like that shit hits different. So you know,

1216
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 6: a couple months in Coach k is like, drawm you

1217
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 6: gotta come on the road with us, like you gotta

1218
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 6: see what's going on.

1219
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: Like they're doing this word for word. There's one thing

1220
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: you're skipping that gotta knew this.

1221
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 3: As far as the marketing and the distribution, Yeah, is

1222
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 3: there only one place to get this?

1223
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: Because how is Tariq Well, I mean, I guess, y'all,

1224
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: I don't know how.

1225
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 6: So really, thankfully the bootleggers were like taking my ship

1226
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:10,479
Speaker 6: to the next level.

1227
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: They were doing a lot of legwork for me. So

1228
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: you didn't know that you were national.

1229
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 6: No I went I when Gangster Girl seven came out,

1230
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 6: I wound up finding out where the bootleg spot was.

1231
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 6: And this was around the time. No I'm sorry, it

1232
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 6: was gangst Girl six. It was against Girl six, but

1233
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 6: it was fifty cent get Richard dot Trying had just

1234
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 6: came out. We wound up finding out where the bootlegs

1235
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 6: spot were in the West End. And we went there

1236
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 6: and I literally saw as many Gangster Girl sixes as

1237
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 6: I did get Richard Doe trying bootlegs, and I was like,

1238
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 6: I was like fascined. I was like, oh my god,

1239
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 6: this is amazing. Not thinking damn, like I'm not really

1240
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 6: making a lot of money, but these niggas is making

1241
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 6: a lot of money.

1242
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: Off my ship. But it's a mixtape.

1243
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 6: So it was for me, it was a you know,

1244
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 6: it was a calling, like I mean, it was my

1245
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 6: calling car like, so I was just excited and I

1246
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 6: was moving around like I would. I would come to

1247
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 6: Canal Street in New York and I would, you know,

1248
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 6: even at a time when they were telling me like, nah,

1249
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 6: we don't really check for South mixtapes, I would just

1250
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 6: be like, listen, take this, it's all yours, like you know,

1251
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 6: and let me know how it does. And I would

1252
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 6: call back a couple of weeks months later and they'd

1253
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 6: be like, yo, send us some more.

1254
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 3: So when did death start?

1255
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 5: Is that like after six that from the jump or

1256
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 5: is that like that was.

1257
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 1: It was all around the time.

1258
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 6: It was all around that time, around six around by

1259
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 6: the time Trapper Died came out. Gangster Grills was a thing.

1260
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 6: So it was like I didn't go anywhere in the country.

1261
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 6: I was on tour with TI at the time, and

1262
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 6: I was hearing my shit come out of every car.

1263
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 6: And then I was like, damn, what I'm gonna do next?

1264
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 6: And the next tape I did was Dedication.

1265
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 5: Okay, y'all, So that's gonna conclude part one of our

1266
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 5: conversation with DJ Drama, But wait a minute, you need

1267
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 5: to stay tuned for part two. Well, we speak to

1268
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 5: Drama about making mixtape classics with Lil Wayne, his evolution

1269
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 5: from making those tapes to platinum hits, and why he

1270
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 5: is I'm so proud about working with Fonte and Little

1271
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 5: Brother on Separate But people, oh, y'all don't want to

1272
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 5: miss that conversation.

1273
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: It gets deep and so good.

1274
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 5: But listen, stay tuned because we got more with my

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01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 5: family repens c Au all Day. DJ Drama, Much.

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01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,400
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01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,360
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