WEBVTT - Ep. 77: Observations and Hot Takes From Jaguars Training Camp | Jags A.M. Podcast 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:20.200 You know, without pads us us getting into them a 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:22.600 little bit. Obviously they're looking forward, but we gotta find 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:24.639 a way to respond. I think that's where football is. 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:27.200 How do you respond to when you do get hit 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:28.840 a little bit. They got pads on too, and they 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:31.840 get paid to play, so at something we're gonna respond 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.159 better for tomorrow. I think you know, if you look 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:36.560 at it, we're gonna go correct where we're supposed to correct. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.360 The competition and the energy taking up a notch now 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.640 that pads are on. I'm Kadannie Stevens here for Jacks 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:44.960 a M. Brian Sexton and John Osier are with me. 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:46.920 It's a day off for the players. But the pads 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:49.559 went on this week and the competition level went way 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:51.440 up as well. We're gonna start off with big things, 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.880 and our first big thing is full pads, full go. 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.400 As pads went on this week, we saw competition on 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.440 both sides of the football amp things up, specifically in 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:01.480 one on one drills. Brian, when you were watching in 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.480 the last couple of days with pads going on, what 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:04.920 was the biggest thing that stood out to you. 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:06.679 On one pass rush? 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:08.920 Obviously, and we talked about it earlier in the week 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.680 when we did our show on Monday about how the 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:15.120 pads would create the edge, would create the intensity, And 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.880 yesterday it was the hottest, longest practice so far, and 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.240 there was a fierce competition, especially when they were doing 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.840 one on one with the offensive and defensive lineman working 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:29.400 in the run game. And to watch Cam Robinson, you know, 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:33.360 mixing it up. Mason Smith is a guy who has 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.760 been very vocal when he's had successes. The energy level 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:38.480 went up, the intensity level went up, and it was good. 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.160 It was good to see the scrappiness. 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:41.399 It's not a nice game. 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:43.360 Guys weren't nice to each other during the drills. 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:44.240 I like that. 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:48.200 Yeah, training camp sort of start sometimes when Cam decides 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.240 he's not going to take anymore, and I love him 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:55.400 for that. It's it ramped up the last couple of days. 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:59.160 There's still another level that they'll reach when they actually 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.480 start their quote live stuff. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:02.680 It never gets fully live. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.920 But this is all part of that thing that I'm 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.160 still getting used to, the whole acclamation period of training 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:14.040 camp where people jump the gun, because in the first 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.800 few days of this thing it's really like OTA's but 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.320 in the last couple of days it has felt a 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.040 little closer in the mid nineties football, although it'll never 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:23.360 be mid nineties football. 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:26.440 Guy, it's not like the days anymore, but we do try. 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:28.520 It's good to see a little bit more competition out there, 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:30.360 and as you mentioned, it does feel a bit different 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:30.799 the last. 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:31.360 Couple of days. 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.200 Our next big thing is Tide's turn. Obviously there was 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.000 a lot made those first couple of days. We talked 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.480 about the offense not really looking like they had things together. John, 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.160 we talked about not making too big of a deal 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:42.840 about it, but it was nice to see the last 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.080 couple of days the offense has looked a bit different. 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.720 Yeah, And it seems like every year we say we're 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:52.000 not gonna forget that the first couple of days or 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.120 just the first couple of days, and then we forget 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.200 and we panic. Some people sort of attribute to the 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:01.440 offense coming around to pads. I think it's more they 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.639 game plan not at all in the first couple of days, 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.160 and then as you start seeing a little more comfortability 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.799 with plays, as Guy likes to say, and then you know, 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.360 as you see a little more scheming against the defense, 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.400 you see a little more success. Brian, it's hard in 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:21.040 the NFL to line up eleven on eleven, not scheme 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.720 at all and beat other world class athletes. They need 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:26.079 to scheme, and I think we've seen it the last 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:26.720 couple of days. 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:28.960 Well, John, especially guys that you practice against. I mean, 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:30.600 it was no surprise to me that it was Dewey 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.079 who had the two interceptions in the red zone last week, 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.080 because he's event, he's been around, he knows what to read. 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:40.400 He sees this every day. It's just part of the process. 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.240 In meetings, right, they lay out the practice plan. Guys 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.640 know who they're repping against and what time they're repping. 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:49.640 It's not a complete surprise. They're trying to get good 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.920 work done and that doesn't always equate to making it 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.880 simple for one side or the other. Guy like Dewey 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:57.960 can make a guy look bad just by taking advantage 0:03:58.000 --> 0:03:58.600 of the situation. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.600 That's important to remember. They're running set design plays, right, 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.480 they're in the red zone, they're on third and long. 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.000 They're doing that because they're difficult plays. So sometimes that's 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.160 what we're watching as well. But it is nice to 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:10.880 see the offense the last couple of days. Our last 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.080 big thing today is going to be competition now there's 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.479 competition in a lot of different groups on this team, Brian, 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.880 When you were looking at position groups, is it the secondary? 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.080 Is it what you've been seeing with the wide receivers. 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.720 What's a position group of competition that you've been excited 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:24.320 to watch so well? 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.640 A linebacking group is Listen, you know what you've got 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.159 in Foyer, Lucan and in Devin Lloyd. 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:31.920 And they're really excited about the way he's playing. 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.520 He's playing the middle linebacker position a lot more right 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.599 now than the weak side or even the strong In fact, 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.080 I think he's going to be to mic this year, 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.200 and they love what they're seeing from him. Ventrel Miller, 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.520 who last year suffered an achilles tear and that generally 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.000 is a long rehabit, especially for a linebacker that you 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:49.120 want roaming all over the. 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:50.520 Field, He's looked great. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.600 He left practice on Monday with a little bit of 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:53.960 a hamstring tweak man. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.200 He was back in it, I mean back in it. 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.440 And the guy who's running all over the field, he's 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.960 not going to unseat either of those other two guys, 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.800 but he's gonna push for playing time and I can 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:07.680 tell you for a fact they want him on the 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:11.159 field in situations because you know, linebackers get banged up, 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.240 they get hurt, and this guy needs to be ready 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.880 to go. Talented guy, very talented guy. So that inside 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.960 linebacking position it's fun to watch. 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:23.280 Yeah, if Ventrell's healthy, he can play. I mean his 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:27.000 issue has been health over his career. I guess I 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.280 kind of went chalk and watched the lines. That's what 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.520 you watch first couple of days of hitting. You get 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.600 one on one pass rush, you get some lines going 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.520 against each other. I liked what we saw from Devon 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:43.279 Hamilton yesterday, who did a great job against Mitch Morse, 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.839 and there were some people saying, well, Mitch Morris, what's. 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.160 Wrong with him? 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.839 Maybe nothing, because Devon Hamilton at the end of twenty two, remember, 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:52.840 was turning into a dominant force. 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.760 Was sort of, you know, not able to do anything 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:56.360 last year. 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:00.440 If there remains something to watch for me if Devon 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:04.760 Hamilton is dominant, Devon Hamilton boy. All of a sudden, 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.000 this defensive line with Armstead and with Josh Allen and 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:08.920 with Trayvon Walker. 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.400 He started listing a lot of guys that. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.240 You have to account for as an offensive line, and 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:16.600 they can't account for everybody, by. 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.040 The way, that was Devon. He had a great day 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:19.880 on Tuesday. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:24.680 On Wednesday, Mitch was much more stout, he was more prepared. 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.560 Remember he hadn't faced Devon, so I'm not sure he 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:29.800 was ready for his power. And it was noticeable on 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.680 Wednesday that he was much stronger and much more ready 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.120 to handle. Although Devon is still a big handful for anybody, 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:36.800 and to. 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:38.320 Practice that way, it's only going to make both sides 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.720 of football better. We talk about iron Sharpen's iron, and 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.040 now it feels like we really truly have competition at 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.640 these different positions on the team. Stay with us here 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.839 on jag Zam. Coming up after the break, we're gonna 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.920 go over what we've seen at practice this week. 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:00.360 Hello, I'm Dan Field and we have some great news. 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.600 Fields has a vehicle you want in stock, prist write 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:04.839 and ready for delivery. 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:11.600 Field's Auto Group is Jacksonville's luxury automotive destination for Cadillac, Jaguar, Land, Rover, Lexus, Mercedes, 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:16.200 Men's and Porsche. 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So I 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.400 think I just keep saying the team wins, we all win. 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:29.280 That's how I'm focused on. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.760 One of your leaders there on defense, Captain Foyer, Luke 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.280 saying he's trying to go out there impress new DC 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.000 Ryan Nielsen certainly what you want to hear from one 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:40.040 year leaders listen. 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:45.040 Nielsen obviously is impressed. He gushed about him at his 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:46.719 news conference the other day. And Foy, he's had a 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:48.640 really nice camp, you know. I mean, and he's one 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.319 of the first guys out on the field. And I 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.320 can tell you because I walked off with him yesterday. 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.320 The last guy's off the field. He's on the drugs machine, 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:01.880 he's catching tennis balls, he's he's working with Josh and Trayvon. 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.560 I mean, he's just he's one of those guys who 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.000 loves the game, loves to practice, loves to play, and 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:08.120 doesn't want to miss a minute of it. 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.400 Look, Foy went to Yale, and so he's a small 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.920 college guy coming in is it haven't heard of it? 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:15.040 It's prety good. It's no Florida. 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:19.760 But but he knows and he always plays with that 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.079 chip and he's smart enough to know that that's what 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.640 it takes to do in this league. He is a 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.640 constant effort guy, always going to lead by example. 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:29.240 Uh. 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.240 I guess not surprised that he's taking this approach and 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:36.400 I would expect him to be uber productive again this year. 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.840 So, Brian, Brian, you mentioned Ryan Nielson talking about Foye. 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.000 We have that SoundBite because so far he seems pretty impressed. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.559 He's flying around as good as any player we have 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:48.520 on our defense. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:48.880 Right now. 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.440 You see him if you just watch his body work 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.120 and you just watch him out practice today, the way 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:58.040 he finishes plays. You know, he's aggressively going to get 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.199 the ball, punch outs and I mean, he's had a 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.559 really good career so far, and so you're seeing that. 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.760 It's really cool to watch him because he's taken his 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:09.520 role and kind of made it his And that's what 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.280 we tried to do for all the players is hey, 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:15.199 here's fundamentals technique, and you know, make it yours. And 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:19.200 that's what he's doing. Yeah, it's really cool when he's 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.080 the ball goes to the other side and he's running 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:25.160 thirty yards down the field to go finish on the play, Like, Yeah, 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.439 that guy loves football. He's given everything he got for 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:29.280 this football team. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:31.880 Seems to have already made a good impression on the 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.800 new DC do a little this or that in regards 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.160 to that, do you feel like Ryan Nielsen has been 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.880 impressed thus far just because of the effort he's seen, 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:41.199 or do you think there's a lot more work to 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:42.120 be done on defense? 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.640 I mean the whole group or holds a group as 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:45.120 a defense. 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:47.559 I think he's spoken highly of them thus far, so 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.280 I feel like they bought in pretty quickly. 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:53.000 Listen, he's an impressive coach and the way he communicates 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.240 so clearly what he wants, and I like to watch 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.040 him on the practice field as he goes from group 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:58.520 to group to group. Right, he steps over with the 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.920 defensive lineman and can John being to coach them on 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.200 their one on one pass rush technique, can drop over 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.000 to the linebackers, or go to the secondary safeties or corners. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:09.880 It doesn't matter wherever he's at. He knows exactly what 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.839 he wants from the players. Look, that's eleven players, right, 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.199 And it's three different levels to the defense, and it's 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.040 two different practice fields, and none of it seems to 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:21.000 be beyond his ability to be right there in the moment, 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.360 focused on whatever the player in front of him needs 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:23.559 to do. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:25.360 He's a really impressive guy. 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.959 So if he's impressed a and he wouldn't say this, 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:30.959 it's because he's done a really good job, and his 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.800 coaching staff has done a really good job. 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:35.360 Yeah, they have the buy in. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.760 It is an attack aggressive scheme that is simpler than 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.480 what they have been in, so I think it's not 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:46.920 surprising that they'd be grasping it. Ryan Nielsen praised the 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:51.640 defensive coaches the other day for getting them into it quickly. Look, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.000 we haven't seen a regular season game, but everything that 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.199 you want to hear and see from a defense that 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.920 is in its first year under a guy, it does 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.640 not seem at all like they're lost in it, which 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.400 that's going to give them a chance or what five 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.000 weeks away from the regular season. If they're not lost now, 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.000 you should see more speed and more suddenness wants the 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:13.560 reaular season. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.640 And look not it's crochade at the previous staff, but 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.400 it's night and day the way these guys communicate, and 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.960 you can see and hear how the players communicate with 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.480 one another, and I think, guys, tell me that didn't 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:27.160 happen last year. 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.600 Communication was a big issue. Secondly, the back half of 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.400 the season when things were all going wrong. 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:32.880 Another of this or that. 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:34.080 John, you talked a little bit. 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.400 About watching the offense and the defensive line. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:39.800 Obviously, both of those need to be good if this 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.880 team is going to be good. But what's most important 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:44.640 to you? I feel like we talked about every week 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:46.760 last week, but going into this, how. 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:47.360 Have you looked at it? 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:48.080 Yes? 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:49.920 Both, Oh, and. 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:56.000 I'm not trying to avoid the question. Yes, it's different 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:57.560 storylines right the defensive line. 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:00.560 The talent is clearly there. 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.800 You've got Armstead, You've got at least four guys. They 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.120 have a chance to be big time players in Hamilton Walker, 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:08.840 Armstead and Josh. 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.120 They have to be that. Those guys to me, have 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.720 to be stars. They have to be core guys. If 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:18.560 they are, it's a. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.520 Special, special group. Ovens of line's a little bit different. 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.920 It has to be better than it was last year. 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.600 And Miss Morris has to be stouter. Which is more important? 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.520 I mean, if I would say it like this, if 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.360 either don't do the things we're talking about, then I'm 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.360 not sure the team makes the playoffs. I mean, I 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:38.120 think they both have to be better, and I can't 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:39.840 really say which is more important because I think if 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.040 you if either of them aren't the seasons in trouble, 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:43.120 for argument's. 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.800 Sake, I'll take one and I'll say that this league 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.080 is tilted so heavily in the rules towards offense. 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:48.760 They want to see offensive explosion. 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.760 And this team is built with a fifty five million 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.800 dollar quarterback in the first round draft pick is another 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.520 wide receiver, and the tight end is amongst the highest 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.960 paid at his position. They need this offense to funk, 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.640 and it clearly didn't last year because they couldn't stay 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.200 on the field. Ky worst in the league at third 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.840 down and three yards or less in terms of conversions. 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:10.640 Their inability to stay on the. 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:14.600 Field, it broke down any cohesiveness, any sort of real 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.200 play calling rhythm that you wanted to get in. Everyone 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.240 wants to point to Press Taylor. You got to understand 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:23.040 the bigger picture of what wasn't working. Their inability to 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.800 convert and to run the ball. They couldn't run the 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.240 ball in from a yard out on fourth down in 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.320 Tennessee cost him a chance to type the game and 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:31.240 maybe go to the playoffs. 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.440 So to me, it's offensive line this year. 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.760 I'm as passionate as he is about the offensive line. 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.120 And I keep remember in the last five games of 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:39.000 this season when it was. 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.760 So yeah, true, I mean that's true. But in an 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.080 offensive league outside with Brian on that. 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:48.760 Do you guys feel like there's an added depth to 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.640 both positions. Obviously a lot of that was injury, specifically 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:53.080 on the offensive line. A lot of it was injury 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.280 and kind of shuffling people around this time of the year. 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:57.720 Doug's been talking a lot about getting people ready so 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.640 if someone and when someone will go down that they're 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:02.640 ready to kind of step in and not be so 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:06.239 flustered by it. I feel like the offense has at 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.000 least so far been good with that, but the defense 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:10.159 has to be able to rotate a lot. 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:11.959 Specifically with the new scheme, they're going to be doing 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:12.479 that a lot well. 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.920 The defensive line, I do feel like they're deeper, I 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:20.600 guess because I feel like if Devon is healthy and 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:26.440 if Armstead is playing and he's at his level, I 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:32.440 think they're deeper in terms of Armstead, Josh and Trayvon 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:33.480 can all play edge. 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:34.480 Yeah, so you can. 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.720 You're stronger for longer in terms of getting disruption, So 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.439 I think they're deeper in terms of having guys who 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.520 can really impact a game. Are they deeper at seven 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.840 or eight? Ledbetter's look good goat says I mean, how. 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.040 About were Robertson Harris. Yeah, he's an impact player. 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.800 I think they're pretty deep, but I think they're really 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.440 really good and deep at the top, if that makes 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:57.960 any sense. 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:00.920 And listen the offensive side, A little concerned. 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.240 We'd hope to see more of Cooper Hodges, right, he 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:05.440 was gone all last season, injured his knee in the 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:06.040 Dallas game. 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:07.280 Now he's dealing with a back. 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.280 I think he's he's not out there, and he's a 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.960 guy that you want pushing both Brandon Sheriff and you 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:14.520 want him with Ezra Cleveland. 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:16.919 I think Cleveland has look good. I think Sheriff has 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:18.080 looked good so far in. 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:20.920