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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, u d Based on what I'm hearing

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Speaker 1: he does. So that's true. But the other side to him, man,

433
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 1: I've never there's no one with a bigger heart that

434
00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:00,080
Speaker 1: I've ever met. There's no one that does more for

435
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 1: folks who are disenfranchised, for folks who are unfortunate. There's

436
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: folks that you know, just got challenges that the average

437
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, the average folks don't have. Man, there's no

438
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 1: bigger heart of Shaquille in that. And oftentimes, I think,

439
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: especially as I've gotten older, I think along these lines.

440
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: It's like when I pass away, when that day comes,

441
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 1: what would I want and what would I want? There's

442
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 1: a whole lot of people at the funeral. Yeah, and

443
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neill is one of those people. There is no church,

444
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: there is no there is no arena, there is no place,

445
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: there's no place that you could fill up you know

446
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 1: that would seek and fit all the people who love him,

447
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: because you know what a good brother he is. That's

448
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 1: the Shaquille O'Neill. I know.

449
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 5: That's the way to look at it. That's a great

450
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 5: way to look at it.

451
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 4: And let me let me tell you something.

452
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 3: He is the most dominant players I've ever and my

453
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 3: two guys and you talk about another one like AI

454
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 3: was like they're both so iconic based on where my

455
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 3: life is and where I got in the league.

456
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 4: And obviously you did as well.

457
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 3: So tell somebody Ai, because that dude right there, Man,

458
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 3: when he talks about ball, he's like a junkie. So

459
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 3: tell me about some of the stories covering him at

460
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 3: his early ages and Larry Brown and stuff.

461
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 4: What did you learn through that process?

462
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: Larry Ai knows Ai. You know, that's my little brother,

463
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: and we've had our issues in the past, but we're

464
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: very tight. We speak to each other at least twice

465
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 1: a month. He was a nightmare to cover, bro, because

466
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 1: this cat always got into some shit when I was

467
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: on vacation. He never did it when I was right

468
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: there in town. It was always always I'm on vacation,

469
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm in the islands, I'm at my undisclosed tropical locations.

470
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: All of this stay even sorry, we need you come

471
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: onification in the news and I'm like, oh, it would

472
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: drive me crazy because they knew if I couldn't find him,

473
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: I find somebody close to him. Everybody knew that. Everybody

474
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: knew that I was to go to guy when it

475
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: came to Ai. And the thing about it is is

476
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 1: that he was a pain in the ass. But Yo,

477
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: he was another dude with a big heart. At times,

478
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 1: his heart was too big for the wrong people. And

479
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: and and the thing that I hate for him to

480
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: this very day is how he's maligned, how he's insulted

481
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: at times or by people who don't know him, who

482
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 1: don't know his heart, and who don't know that he

483
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: really didn't do most of the things people think he did.

484
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: He's just not snitching on somebody who did. He's not

485
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: doing it. You could it's to his grave. He's not

486
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: doing it. He ain't throwing he ain't throwing somebody else

487
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: on the bus. And at this don't apply to his boys.

488
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: It applies to his teammates, it applies to his contemporaries

489
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: in the league. It applied it applies to his family, anybody,

490
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: if you are associated with AI. It's like, that's how

491
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: it goes. He's not betraying you, he's just not doing it.

492
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: And so because of that, he found himself in hot

493
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: water on several occasions. Now, he and I I think

494
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: the biggest, two biggest stories with us. One time, I'm

495
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: covering the beat and this cat just gets into one

496
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: piece of shit after another, and he goes on into

497
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: a slump, and it's so bad. He's got like a

498
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: ten game stretch where He's looking like straight garbage and

499
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell's going on with him,

500
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: and so I write the story it's worst ten game

501
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: stretch this man had. He shooting like twenty five percent

502
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: from the fields. It was horrible, you know. And he

503
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: goes out and he drops like fifty two some shit

504
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:15,239
Speaker 1: like that, and we stand at his locker and he's like,

505
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: you know, because you know, I was just doing going

506
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: through some trials with your relations you know, and certain

507
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: people in the media that you know, just gonna write

508
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: some shit about me. And I'm looking around, like we

509
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: all said a reporter at the locker, right, And I'm

510
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: looking around.

511
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 5: Like, who the hell did that did?

512
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Who did it? And everybody's

513
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: looking at me. I'm like me, me what, because you know, look,

514
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: let me tell everybody saying about the meeting, It's not

515
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: what it is today. You got Twitter and all these

516
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: social media handles, and it's no disrespect to anybody that's

517
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: in the media today. I'm protective of I'm protective of

518
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: my breathron and I got love for them. And if

519
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: you are beat riding and you covering the team, major

520
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: props to you. Ain't nobody hating you at all. We shouldn't.

521
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: But the reality is is that the game has changed.

522
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: Because of the ad and of social media, cell phones

523
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: and cameras and everything being videotaped and all of this

524
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: other stuff. You don't really have to cover the team

525
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: the way we used to. Like you can get the

526
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: new you can react off of the news on social media.

527
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: Back in my day, you have to go get the news. Okay.

528
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there, and you gotta remember negativity sells.

529
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: So if I said fifty percent of the stuff that

530
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: I knew, let alone eighty or ninety percent that I

531
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: knew about AI at the time, oh my career skyrockets

532
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: because I'd live in the headlines. I did no such things.

533
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: I ain't going out like that. Your personal business person

534
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: will knowing what you do on the court, that's my domain.

535
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: Oh I'm gonna report that you shoot two for twenty court.

536
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: Don't look at the paper tomorrow. Don't look at me.

537
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: Don't you dare because you ain't comect What the hell

538
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: you see? I'm telling you that right now. But your

539
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: private business is your private business, you know. And I'm like,

540
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: what me? You're talking to me? And called me out

541
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 1: front of the media like that. Man. I was so pissed.

542
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: Me and Ai didn't speak for eight months. Eight months

543
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: and strictly on basketball. I slice and dice them up

544
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: and rake him through the coldst you know, anything he did,

545
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: I was on it. He did some positive, fine, he

546
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: did a negative, that's your ass. I was on it.

547
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: And it was so volatile, you know, it got he

548
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: got so mad at me. His boy Rab God rest

549
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 1: his soul. Rob was good people, and AI loved him

550
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: to death. He rolled up on me, this has to stop.

551
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: You need to meet with us. I said where. He said,

552
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: We're gonna be at the club tonight. I rolled up

553
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: there fifty you know, it's on Spring Garden Street in Philadelphia.

554
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: I rolled up there two, two fifteen in the morning,

555
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: you know, by myself. What's up? I'm here, and me

556
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: and Ai talked it out. In two seconds. He was

557
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: done and then he was over with And another time

558
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: he got upset at me. And this is where he

559
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: was nearing retirement, and he was you know, he didn't speak.

560
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: He and I didn't speak for a couple of years

561
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: because he was living in Atlanta or whatever. And then

562
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: I heard it. You know, he was looking for me,

563
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: and people were wondering about what was gonna happen if

564
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: we ran in each other. I was like, what, So

565
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: I got a couple of my boys. We rolled down

566
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: to Atlanta and I met up with him. And that

567
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: was the most humbling experience that I've had in my

568
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: career because I sat there with him, We had some

569
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: I had some cats with me. They were standing on

570
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: away from us and stuff, and he was just sitting

571
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: there And after all of this beef with us not

572
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: talking for a couple of years, he looked at me

573
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: and he said, I don't give a shit about the headlines.

574
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't care nothing about the story because all it

575
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: did was me saying, you party in too much. You

576
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: gotta slow down, and you gotta play ball. You know

577
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna do this. He said, all I cared about

578
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: is that it was you. And when he slipped me

579
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: in my face and said that it had never hit

580
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: me before that, that epiphany hit me. He didn't care

581
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: about the story, he didn't care about much. He's like,

582
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: you let somebody else do it, not you, you my man,

583
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: And that's when I realized that our relationship had taken

584
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: another level. He looked at me like a big bro

585
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: and he expected me to view him in that brotherly way.

586
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: And from that day forward, I looked him dead in

587
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: the face and I said, I will never write anything

588
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: about you without talking to you first. I said, only

589
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: on one condition, though, don't make me have to look

590
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: for you. I shouldn't have to do that you're saying,

591
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: because you know, but I've never done that again. And

592
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: thank goodness, he retired. And now that he's retired, I

593
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: don't have to sit up there and hold back on

594
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: being his brother and his friend. Now it don't matter.

595
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn what he going through. Not

596
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: that he is going through anything, because he's very happy.

597
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: But even if he was, and he's my brother first,

598
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: before he was the subject I had to cover. I

599
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: got a job to do. What I'm gonna try to

600
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: look out as best I possibly can. Now it's like

601
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: bump all of that. He's my little brother. I love

602
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: him to death, and I'm gonna be here for him

603
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: as a brother first, no matter what.

604
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 3: By the way, that's that's super dope. The question I

605
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: would have is just in the media side of things,

606
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 3: is like, how do you guys, how do you juggle

607
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: stuff like that, because it's it's true, like you you

608
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: it's do people the people in the media, in your opinion,

609
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 3: take stuff personally on players, like whether they talk to him,

610
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: don't talk to him.

611
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: They give it like, how does that work? Because juggle

612
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 4: that's hard. I don't know how you do that.

613
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: It's interesting that you ask that, because see, it's tricky,

614
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: and I openly will confess that. But the first order

615
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: of business, there's but so much that I can give

616
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: a damn about. Yeah, I'm not having Thanksgiving to with you.

617
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: I'm not exchanging Christmas gifts. I'm not trying to hurt you.

618
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: I don't want you to hate me. But I don't

619
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: care how you feel about me. If it's based off

620
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: of the premise that I'm doing my job now, if

621
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm being excessive, if I'm being personal, if I'm getting

622
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: into your personal business, nah, that's off limits. What you're

623
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: doing with your personal life. Listen, My rule is very simple.

624
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: You ain't in the police blothers, you ain't breaking no laws.

625
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: That's none of my business. That's your personal life. But

626
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 1: you can't have me ignoring all of that because you

627
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: always hear stuff and all this how you're living how

628
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: the lifestyle is and all this stuff. When you hear

629
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: me breaking up, bringing up somebody in the strip club

630
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: or something like that, that ain't me. It's the fact

631
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: that y'all already let it get out on TMZ. You

632
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying something like that, I ain't doing

633
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: that kind of news ain't gonna originate from me. I'm

634
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: not doing it. You know, you got marital problems. I'm

635
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: not discussing that. You you you you broke up with

636
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: your girl. Your girl, your ex is not for messing

637
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: with somebody else. I'm not touching that. Oh Steve, don't

638
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: do Steve and they don't do that. Oh no, that's

639
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: none of my business man, the one day out the other.

640
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: If anything, I help you get over it, you know

641
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: what you need. You know what I'm saying this, honey

642
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: right here might be interesting you to move on. You

643
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: know some like I mean, I'm not doing all of that.

644
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is is that within the confines

645
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Speaker 1: of my job that I have to do and when

646
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: somebody has a problem with that, what you're telling me

647
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: is you don't give a damn about my life, my career,

648
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: my quality of life, all you care about is me

649
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: looking out for you, and I can't do that. So

650
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, listen, I give you a perfect example. You know,

651
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: you see people at the White Party, Michael Rubin's White

652
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: Party fanatics. I be joking around about going. I ain't

653
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: playing on going there. I probably never get an invite.

654
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: But it ain't because of Michael Rubins. It's because you

655
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: got cats that will be there that don't want me

656
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: to here. Now, let me tell you how damn it's

657
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: that serious. Let me tell you how full of shit

658
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: they are. Let me talk. I'm not talking about Michael Rubert.

659
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking about I'm just using that as an example.

660
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the people that wouldn't want me there.

661
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying somebody told him something I don't know.

662
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: I didn't ask, but I'm just telling you I know

663
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: they wouldn't want me tore. Here's what I'm saying. You did.

664
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Speaker 1: You was in the NBA for twenty years, eminem You've

665
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: been in the NBA for the years that you was

666
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: in there, over a decade plus. I've been covering the

667
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: NBA for over twenty five, approaching thirty years. Bro tell

668
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: me one time, y'all heard stephen A betrayed somebody. He said, Son,

669
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: we gave it to him off the record. He said

670
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: it on the racket. We were here in private, stephen

671
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: A put it out there in public. Take your time away.

672
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: It's never happened. It's never happened.

673
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 5: Doug.

674
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Speaker 1: I'm from the streets. That's where I'm from. This is

675
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: a cold You don't see what I'm saying. That's why when

676
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: Stephen Jack came out with that shit, that pissed me off.

677
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: When you're talking about it, I'm snitching because you know

678
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: I called the NBA office to ask about Russell Westbrook. Well,

679
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: I was doing NBA camdown the Clippers of the MAVs.

680
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: Was the game we were the pregame. They said he

681
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: didn't get suspended. Steven ain't find out. Why what am

682
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: I supposed to do to my bosses? No, I can't

683
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: call the league office and called Joe d all Right.

684
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: Had this been Draymond Green, y'all would have suspended him.

685
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: Why didn't y'all suspend here? Now, I'm unapologetic by feeling

686
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: that Russell Westbrook, who, by the way, I love, has

687
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: no love for me. I don't give a damn I

688
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: love for him because I know you're a real one,

689
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: and I know what he doing in the community outside

690
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: of basketball. I got nothing to love him. He just

691
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: mad at me because he gets mad at me sometimes

692
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: because I reminded, you ain't got no damn jump shot.

693
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: That's all.

694
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Saying that said that, that's

695
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: all it is. He's still a Hall of Famer, he's

696
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: still a great player, but damn it, shooting ain't your strength.

697
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: That's all. But the point is, I thought he should

698
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: have been suspended after his behavior, flinging around Luca and

699
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: all of that. I think it was game three. It

700
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: was either Gaate too a game three. I'm on the record,

701
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: you know where I stand. But that got nothing to

702
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: do with me calling the league office to find out

703
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: why you didn't suspend him. That was about me doing

704
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: my job for NBA countdown. So you got wallowing Gilly

705
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: or Gilly four wallowing Gilly going off about how you

706
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: gonna call the league office, and Steven Jackson like, how

707
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: are you gonna call Levoy Because it's my damn job.

708
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: I cover the NBA. What are you talking about? So

709
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: you see people you doing, you got you got Draymond

710
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: and you know he went on shock pockets. Love me

711
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: some Draymond. It don't matter what Draymond said, don't matter

712
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: how he feels or whatever. I love me from Draymond

713
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: Green because he's a real one and that's all I

714
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: care about. That's why I love you because you always

715
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 1: been real. That's why I love Mike, because he's always

716
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: been real. If you real and you honest, and you

717
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: straightforward and you ain't sending hanging wrongs to come talk

718
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: some shit to me and you telling and you're doing

719
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: it yourself.

720
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 4: Yo.

721
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, I'll apologize, I'll correct it. It won't happen again.

722
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: But if I'm right, I'm not butcher, I'm not budgeting,

723
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: I'm not moving because I'm right. And so I'm sitting there.

724
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm having a conversation you Draymond, and you gonna go

725
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: to Shaq Stephen Ay pissed me off? Huh, Well why

726
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: I pissed you off? Because I picked up the phone

727
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: and called you and said, Yo, it was hard to

728
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: talk to you. It was hard to talk about you.

729
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: It's hard because you've been ejected twenty times and now

730
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: you got the suspension and they talking about you. So

731
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: I got love for you. I don't enjoy this. That's

732
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 1: basically what the call was. Well, you go to Shaq

733
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: and you like, you know and other people in this

734
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: letting this narrative go out about mental health. Well, if

735
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: you go back to the tape, D I was the

736
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: one that was like, yo, KD, what you doing? What

737
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: you're doing talking about him and mental health? You know

738
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: how society gonna treat that black man. You know they're

739
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: gonna jump on this and talk about anger management and

740
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: in therapy and all of this other stuff, trying to

741
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: paint us in this light. You know that what you do.

742
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: I was the one that was speaking for Draymond. So, yes,

743
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: he ultimately apologized and all of that stuff on the

744
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: air with TNT, with shocking all of them. But I'm

745
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: sitting there like, I accept your apologies, good brother. I

746
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: know that, and I can understand that he expected more

747
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: from me similar to what AI did. But you don't

748
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: know my number. Yeah, you know you couldn't have called

749
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: because see I could have corrected that immediately, Yo, Stephen

750
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: ay Man, I ain't like this. Here's what I didn't like, yo, bro,

751
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: we'd have had that conversation if you write I'm corrected immediately.

752
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna squash that when stuff like that don't happen.

753
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: And let me as because I'm older than everybody in

754
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: this room. All right, I may not look it anymore,

755
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: but damn it. Okay, here's the deal. Always remember I

756
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: said this the world that we're living in right now,

757
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: in this business, and especially you do because I believe

758
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a star in this business.

759
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 4: Bro.

760
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: I really really mean that. I'm serious. I've already told

761
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: ESPN you the future, Bro, You my man, Big Perk,

762
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: Kendrick Perkins. Please, yeah, I'm here, but they there, you

763
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: brothers are gonna do some big things. And I really

764
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: believe in you. I really mean that. I gotta tell you.

765
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: Here's what you gotta watch out for. You gonna say

766
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: shit people don't like you, Gonna say shit people might

767
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: not agree with, but if they down with you, you

768
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: can have a conversation. The ones that don't talk to you,

769
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: that avoid you, that ultimately stop speaking to you, they

770
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: will never down for you. They were waiting for an

771
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: excuse to say bump you. They were never there for you.

772
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: Because if we are about more than that, these are

773
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: not big issues. Nothing that can't be resolved with a conversation.

774
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: That's what it's all about. And when people don't give

775
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: you the opportunity to do that, that's because they wanted

776
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: to hate on you. And if you wanted to hate

777
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: on me, I'm good with it because that means I'm

778
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: no longer fooled by the notion that you wanted to

779
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: be a friend and a brother and show mutual respect. Nah,

780
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: your agenda was different, and I don't lose a second

781
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: of sleep over somebody like that.

782
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 5: Man, I'm happy. I'm so happy you said that because

783
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 5: I had to learn early. And this is a conversation

784
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 5: that nobody knew that we had, But I sat down

785
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 5: and had this conversation with you at lunch. It was

786
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 5: a conversation about Tyler Herro and a conversation about should

787
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 5: he be coming off the bend, should he be a starter,

788
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 5: or whatever the situation may be. And I gave my

789
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 5: opinion on that, and I felt like it might've got

790
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 5: taken out of context, and also didn't think about how

791
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 5: it might have been affect the hero, which is my

792
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 5: young boy. And I always I consider those guys like

793
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 5: little brothers to me, and I never want to disrespect them.

794
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 5: I never want to mislead them. I never want to

795
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 5: you know, any of that. But you know, you want

796
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 5: the best for you. So having a conversation with you,

797
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 5: asking you about how to be on this side of things,

798
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 5: but also make sure that I'm being considerate and have

799
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 5: a compassion for my other people on the other side,

800
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 5: and you had to break it down for me and

801
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 5: taking your advice. I ended up pulling up on Hero

802
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 5: put up to his house one day he was working out.

803
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 5: I called him at the end of his workout. We

804
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,479
Speaker 5: spoke at the workout. We ended up having breakfast together

805
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 5: and we talked about it, and more of the conversation

806
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 5: was just like AI, I was just disappointed it was

807
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 5: you og. It's not about what was said. It was

808
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 5: that the fact that it was you. Yeah, you know

809
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. And that was a conversation that I

810
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 5: had had with Hero before about him being a great

811
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 5: six man. He won six Man of a Year, he

812
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 5: got his money, So I didn't look at it as

813
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 5: a situation where it could be negative. But at the

814
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 5: end of the day, that's not my job. That's not

815
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 5: my job to worry about. You know, well, this is

816
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 5: not my job to.

817
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: Can to let me say this to you. You can't

818
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: worry what I'm saying.

819
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 5: It is not my job to not make it negative,

820
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 5: saying it's not my job to affect what his role is.

821
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 5: It's not my job to affect what his role is.

822
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 5: It's only my job to guide him and breathe life

823
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 5: into him and whatever role he has.

824
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: But that ain't the only job you have. You also

825
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: have a job now that you volunteer for where you're

826
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: talking basketball, and so what happens is Tyler Hero, who

827
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: I like a lot. I love Hero, and I like

828
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: about it. That's really good. Well, I like a lot.

829
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: Tyler Hero has a responsibility to remember who you are

830
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: and what you have been, and that one comment doesn't

831
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: erase everything, especially if it has an opportunity to be accurate.

832
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: Tyler Hero can ball, Yes, he can ball. So why

833
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: are we always talking about somebody else coming on the

834
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: Miami heat because Miami need him. What you gonna do

835
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: about that?

836
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 4: Tyler?

837
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: What you gonna do about it? Because you can ball?

838
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: He ain't no scrub brother got game? And when he

839
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: brings his A game, how does Miami look? I got

840
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: news for you? We're talking about Jimmy Butler. I'm gonna tay,

841
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it home to you. You ain't got

842
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: to coming. This is Stephen they talking. He ain't got

843
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: to do this cause I aint gonna put you in

844
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: that position. Let me be very very clear, Jimmy Butler

845
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: brother's a winner. He's a warrior, yes, but he ain't

846
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: no young spring chicken in basketball parlams. We wouldn't be

847
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: talking about what more Jimmy Butler need to do or

848
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: what more to Miami Heat needed. If Tyler Hitro brought

849
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: his a game every night, we wouldn't be doing that.

850
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: Because this is not a brother that can't play. This

851
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: is a brother that can play. This is not a

852
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: brother that can't make a difference. This is a brother

853
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: that can the handle, the shot making ability, the heart,

854
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: the whole bit. Yo, you can make a difference. And

855
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: so knowing that you can make that difference, but that

856
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: people have legitimate evidence to point to that chose that

857
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: you didn't do that on a continuous basis. I understand

858
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: his sensitivity for it coming out of your mouth. I

859
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: get that part, But what about the part O g

860
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: on me because OG loved me, because OG want the

861
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: best for me, and he want the best for the heat.

862
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: He don't want me in another uniform. He don't want

863
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: me out of town. He want me here. I know

864
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: this what happened to that? On too many occasions we

865
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: put the onus on pundits, on the messengers. Yo, bro,

866
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: I got a secret to tell you. I love me

867
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: some Kevin Durant. I think Kevin Durant is a good

868
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: brother too, And I think I think that this brother

869
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: all he want to do is ball? You think I

870
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: like saying, yo, bro? If Steph Curry win this championship

871
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: against Boston, they gonna be talking when they talking about you,

872
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna be talking about more about how you left

873
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: him for Kyrie than you did helping him win two championships.

874
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: They gonna remember you a champion, and you're a two

875
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: TOM champion. You're too Tom NBA Finals MVP because you're

876
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: too great to ignore that. But that's not gonna be

877
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: the narrative. They gonna focus on that. You think I

878
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: like saying, kd Yo, man, you marchha to beat your

879
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: own drum. You wanna play ball, you want to go home.

880
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: In terms of ingratiating yourself with your teammates and being

881
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: that leader that appeals greatness out of them. That's not

882
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: what you're known for. You think I like saying that.

883
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: You think I like echoing the stuff that people close

884
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: to you, that you don't know about, that you play with,

885
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: that you play against, that you play for, and stuff

886
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: like that that they I go to the media that

887
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: has circulated around NBA circles, I don't enjoy that shit. Okay.

888
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: I don't sit up there with a smile on my

889
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: face and say this stuff rooting for him to fail.

890
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: And you know, Paul George, you just went to Philadelphia.

891
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: Paul George is one of the best human beings I've

892
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: ever met as a professional athlete. He right up there

893
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: with d Wade. D Wade because d Way, you know,

894
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: you know how I feel about d Way. You know

895
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like, you see cats Lebron.

896
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: I don't have the greatest relationship with Lebron James. I

897
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: don't give a damn about not having the greatest relationship

898
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: with Lebron James. But I know he's great. I know

899
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: that brother on the Mount Rushmore. I know he's a

900
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: great father, a great family man, a great basketball and

901
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: basket A great role model, damn it, great business man.

902
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: I want him to get an ownership stake in the

903
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: new Las Vegas franchise at the end of AA decides

904
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: to do an expansion franchise. I want all of that.

905
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: And I don't have no kind of relationship with Lebron

906
00:45:54,400 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: James like that. Okay, But in the same breath you

907
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: think I enjoy having to say, Yo, bro, you were

908
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: scared to shoot in the fourth quarter in that final

909
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: series against Dallas. You had j J Burrea and Jason

910
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: tyregarding you. That's why you're never getting my goat status

911
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: over MJ. I don't enjoy it. I'm just talking. We

912
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: talk basketball, and we live in a society today where

913
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: we got a whole bunch of fucking punks out here, okay,

914
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is cats who are

915
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: scared to speak their mind about people you don't that

916
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: you do like. Anybody can talk about somebody they don't like.

917
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: Anybody can talk about somebody they don't know. But the

918
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 1: real courage comes from you having to be real about

919
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: people you do like and you do look up to,

920
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: and you do respect, and you do know are great.

921
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: What you're gonna say real about them. That's where the

922
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: courage come from. You got cats, trolls. I'm supposed to

923
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: sit up there and oh my god, Stephen ay, and

924
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: it's all aheadline. I don't know if you notice it,

925
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 1: look at you too, because everybody need clicks. Everybody trying

926
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: to get paid. The don't want to gout there get

927
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: real jobs. We only want to sit up there. We

928
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: wanna make these clicks and we're gonna get these likes

929
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: and all of the sudden and generate revenue and come

930
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: across and feign this passion. See, I ain't fainting because

931
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: I've been doing this since two thousand, I'm sorry, since

932
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three. That's thirty years. That's thirty one years

933
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: I've been doing this. You've seeing me fake over the years?

934
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: Who's seen me fake? Where are you at? The name

935
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: tim of place? I'll show up since we want facts, right,

936
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: But you got these cats out here, and they'll sit

937
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: up there and they'll troll, and they'll talk and they'll

938
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: chirp and all this other stuff, acting like they they

939
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: they upset and they pissed off. And who the hell

940
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: is he to say, oh fucking you what exactly have

941
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: you done? Oh to Stephen that you couldn't played ball,

942
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 1: but oh really, scholarship paid for my education. I started

943
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: out as an intern at the Winds to Salem Journal

944
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: and the Atlanta Journal Constitution, and then back to the

945
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: Winds to Seal Them Journal, and then the Greensborough News Reckoned.

946
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: Then after that I went to the New York Daily News,

947
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: which is the top ten major metropolitan newspaper. We started

948
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: off as a reporter, elevating the fourteen months to a

949
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: job at the Philadelphia Inquirer, one of the top broads

950
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: sheet papers in the United States of America. I'm doing

951
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: cop I get promoted seven damn times. I take a

952
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 1: salary that goes from fifty three thousand to two hundred

953
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: and twenty five thousand. Oh, by the way, I go

954
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: from that to Fox Sports, Okay, before that, seeing N

955
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: S I, after that ESPN. I'm in the news talking

956
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: about what money I'm making. That's what we're doing, y'all.

957
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: Y'all filming me while I'm walking into a rena Like

958
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: I asked for this shit, Like I asked for somebody

959
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: to feel me now in mind, because I was to say,

960
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna do it. You're gonna pimp it,

961
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: pipp it right, you know what I'm saying. But I'm

962
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: just saying I didn't ask him to follow me. But

963
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: everybody making news about them following me while I'm walking

964
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: into the tunnel. Well, JJ Redick was walking into the tunnel.

965
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: You filmed him. Mike bree walked into the tunnel, You

966
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: filmed him. Monica McNutt rolled up through the tunnel. You

967
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: filmed Huh, Molly, I'm sorry. Malika Andrews rolled up in

968
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: the tunnel. You're filmed up. You know, Bob Maya's and

969
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: in Adril war was Darowski rolled up in there? Your

970
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: film numb But steven A's the problem. Who the hell

971
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: he think he is?

972
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 5: Is a little more swaggy. Of course You're just a

973
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 5: little more.

974
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: Swagged out, no doubt, no doubt. But I listen. All

975
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say is that you got these people

976
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: that's talking, and it's like asking what I did. I

977
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: can literally pull out a resume, I can literally say

978
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: google me. But you the one talking about what I'm

979
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: qualified for. My qualifications are all over the place, all

980
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: over the place for the world to see. And I'm

981
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: watching it, and I gotta be careful because I'm sitting

982
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: there and I'm going like where the sensitivity comes from

983
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: When you're looking at players, It's like, damn, y'all, we

984
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: can't talk basketball, which was what used to piss me

985
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: off about Lebron. The second you giving major props for

986
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: what he accomplished, he soak it all in. The second

987
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: you criticize them, well, you know, I'm just trying to

988
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: be here for the kids and you know, just trying

989
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: to do what's right for the community. And then it

990
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: pissed me off because that was a slick way of

991
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: taking attention away from the basketball element and making it

992
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: about something other than basketball, which was what we were

993
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: talking about. And then you got the trolls in social

994
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: media who follow and that's what people are trying to

995
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: convince you makes the most noise, But they ain't the

996
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: ones that make the most noise. I'll allow them to

997
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: think that and let them squeech every now and then.

998
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: You said it, don't screak every now and then. Why

999
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: because you could do what you want to do. But

1000
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, what you have to

1001
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: say ain't gonna matter compared to what I have to

1002
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: say if you're a troll, because trolls don't have resumes.

1003
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: I do.

1004
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 4: Oh, I love that shit.

1005
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 3: I ain't motivated right now, but about an't ask, I'd

1006
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 3: be remiss about an't ask though, because to me, there's

1007
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 3: been a ton of storylines this summer in the NBA.

1008
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: We're just talking NBA. I know, I hear you talk

1009
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 3: blue and orange skies all the time. That was a

1010
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: big trade, right, You got Paul George to Philadelphia, that's

1011
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 3: an awesome thing. Clay leaves Golden State, which is crazy,

1012
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: and you know it's a it's a big shifting landscape

1013
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: of things. You got Bronnie playing with bron in in La.

1014
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 3: Where do you think in all those headlines, what do

1015
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 3: you think are the most important for the NBA that

1016
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 3: sits right now? And where do you think it goes

1017
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: from here? Is it Clay to the MAVs, CP three

1018
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 3: to Spurs? Is Paul George of Philadelphia? Is it Bronnie

1019
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: playing with bron Like, what's the storyline and where are

1020
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: you at with that?

1021
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: Well, Clay to the MAVs is important because the MAVs

1022
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: were just in the finals, so we're going to see

1023
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: the difference between what he could do for them compared

1024
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,479
Speaker 1: to what Derek Jones did for them. Your dude, brother

1025
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: can ball defensively, just couldn't shoot like you know how

1026
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: I told.

1027
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 5: Your skill sets.

1028
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 1: There's different skills, different skill sets, right, But he can

1029
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: play and and and he got himself a contract that

1030
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: I'm happy for him. But Clay, if that brother. Klay

1031
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: Thompson shot forty one from threes since the All Star

1032
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: Break and forty five percent from the field and average

1033
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: close to twenty points. Everybody walking around acting like anybody

1034
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: could do that. The brother spent the first none of

1035
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: his first ten years in the league. He spent the

1036
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 1: first nine of his ten years in the league shooting

1037
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: better than forty percent from three point range. Klay Thompson

1038
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: is special and I got allowed for him. But it's

1039
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: gonna see. We're gonna see what happens because age and

1040
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: father Thomas undefeated. But it's not just because he's with

1041
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: the MAVs. We gotta wonder what impact that's gonna have

1042
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: on Steph and the Warriors. Steph not having him to

1043
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: lean on, Kaminga and Pujemski gotta elevate their game. Okay.

1044
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 1: I love to pick up a buddy Hiled. I think

1045
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: that works for them, right, but it still doesn't mean

1046
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: that more is not gonna be required of Steph. And

1047
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: if that is the case, what is that gonna bleed

1048
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: from him? We gotta ask ourselves that that's number one,

1049
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: Number two Paul George. If Embid is healthy, there's no excuse.

1050
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: There's no excuses. Embid on one leg average thirty five

1051
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: against the on one leg. We know how big time

1052
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 1: Ebid is. We know that Tyrese Maxie is special brother

1053
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: got two hundred and four million dollar extension. Yes, I

1054
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: fell sorry for him. He deserved more. I know that's

1055
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: the max they could give him, you know, But I'm

1056
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: just talking about his greatness. He deserved the more. I

1057
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: know they couldn't give him over, but he deserved more.

1058
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: If Paul George is what Paul George is supposed to be, Yes,

1059
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: MAXI in B and Paul George, as much as I

1060
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: love my next Orange and Blue Sky's Baby, they don't

1061
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: come before Philly and Boston. We know bossons on another level.

1062
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: They the champions. They'd have ran in defended champions and

1063
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with this. But in B with Maxie,

1064
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: and Paul George. Yes, I believe in that. That's big.

1065
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: Look the Knicks, rough riders, hard nose, fight you, fight you.

1066
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: I didn't like the loss of Hartenstein, but og and

1067
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: Michel Bridges with priority. I got to get those two.

1068
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 1: I got to keep those two, all right. I gotta

1069
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: get Bridges. I gotta keep o g Look, damn it,

1070
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: I like Hart and Steed. We should be able to

1071
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: replace him. We should be able to replace him. Okay,

1072
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: I wish I could say more about y'all Miami heat.

1073
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 1: I don't believe. I believe they'll be good. Can't rule

1074
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: out Bam, can't rule out Tyler, can't rule out Jimmy

1075
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: Jimmy Buckets. I get that, never ruling I was supposed

1076
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: to who I think is a Hall of Fame coach,

1077
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: one of the greatest coaches we've ever seen. I love supposure,

1078
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: and damn it, as long as pat Riley's around, there's

1079
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: no such thing as the word suck when it comes

1080
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: to anything he touches. I just don't believe it. So

1081
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: because of that, I like it. My problem with Miami

1082
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: is twofold. I really wish y'all had gotten DeMar DeRozan.

1083
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: I really think that would have helped, y'all. You didn't

1084
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: get it done. You didn't get Damian Little last year,

1085
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: which I thought would have helped. Y'all. You didn't get

1086
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: it done. So you need somebody because that way, you

1087
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: could keep Jimmy around if so be, if so be

1088
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: it and he can help you be there of those

1089
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: big moments. But you don't need him that much during

1090
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: the eighty two games, right, But you also need to

1091
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: get a legit big man so Bam out of Buyer

1092
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: can be the natural four that he is. You don't

1093
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: have that. You're asking a lot of him. I'm glad

1094
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: he got in this sension. He deserved every penny. I

1095
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: wish him nothing but the best. But you need a

1096
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: bigger body to throw out there with him, so you're

1097
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: not asking so much from him, and I think that's important.

1098
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm done with the Clippers, I'm done with him. I'm

1099
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: done with them. Okay, don't give sure what nobody say,

1100
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: Kawhi leonnet.

1101
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 4: Is.

1102
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: I've said this many times in national television. I'nna it

1103
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: on your podcast. He's the worst superstar anybody could ever have.

1104
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: He's the worst. He is a super star player who

1105
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: misses sixty percent of his playoff games. But this year,

1106
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: I said playoffs. He played sixty eight percent during the

1107
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: regular season, but he didn't play.

1108
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 5: But this year he was really hurt. This year, He's

1109
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 5: really hurt every year.

1110
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm not questioning this injury.

1111
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 5: During the season.

1112
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's not questioning the legitimacy. Let me tell you something.

1113
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 1: I would never disrespect y'all by saying that somebody's injury

1114
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: is fake. He's the professional athletes, the greatest professional athletes

1115
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: in the world. That you got. The only injury I've

1116
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: ever questioned is that Damn Ben playoffs. That damn that,

1117
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: Damn Ben Simmons. Don't get me started on that, Damn Benson.

1118
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean this, brother, I mean, you know, I'm not

1119
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna even go there. He's lucky he's

1120
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: not in prison.

1121
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 5: You down here, I am you. I can show you

1122
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 5: work out it. They be working out.

1123
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: Down Really, I'm sure he did work that down here.

1124
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure of all the places he could really get

1125
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: focused to zero in on his basketball prowess, he gonna

1126
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: pick my hand. I'm sure he is down here. His

1127
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: Zoolander ass up. I mean, don't get me started this

1128
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: brother right here. I mean, come on, man, the skill

1129
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: set that he had. I know he couldn't shoot, but

1130
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: everything everything he has, he don't want to play. He

1131
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: don't love the game. He don't love the game. I'm

1132
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: not saying he wasn't injured, but I'm talking about an

1133
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: absence of love for the game. Remember he was missing

1134
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 1: games before he was injured. They pointed to mental health.

1135
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: We can't dismiss the importance of mental health. The reason

1136
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: why I'm critical of it is because that never prevented

1137
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: you from making sure that check was in your account

1138
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: every two weeks. He never missed it. He never missed it.

1139
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: He never missed it. He alway main sure that cash

1140
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: was there. But he won to play. So don't get

1141
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: me started with him. But here's what back to Kawhi Leonard.

1142
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: You know, way, I got really really salty about Kawhi Leonard.

1143
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: It's not because of his injury per se. It's not

1144
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: even because he missed all lot of them damn playoff games.

1145
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: In part is because he does nothing to promote his

1146
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: team or the sport. Marketing is important. He does nothing

1147
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: in that regard, even his own commercial for New Balance.

1148
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: The little kids are talking but not him.

1149
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 5: Think about that.

1150
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: It's the truth. Go back and look at it. The

1151
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: kids are talking in a commercial, but the person they

1152
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: paying for it won't say anything. Now, come on, man, no,

1153
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: come on now, now, don't tell me you can't. I

1154
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: understand you don't want that, But you can talk. You

1155
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: can say a sentence something. I mean damn. Okay, So

1156
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: we got that problem. Here's the other problem. I don't

1157
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: think I've ever been more pissed off at a dude

1158
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: wearing the Team USA uniform. Remember how excited he was

1159
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: when they came to him and Grant Hill and them

1160
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 1: put him on Team USA. Do you know how many

1161
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: games you've missed to be talking about playing in the summer.

1162
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: You might get hurt from the flight to Paris. I'm

1163
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: not letting you play. If I'm Steve Barmer, if I'm

1164
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: Steve Balmer, I will use I'm a billionaire, I will

1165
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: use every means at my disposal to make sure this

1166
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: man ain't on Team USA. Because, for one reason, and

1167
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: one reason only, I don't trust that you're gonna leave healthy.

1168
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: I promise you tell me right now if I said

1169
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: to you, if I said you D M and M,

1170
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: you got to bet me your check that this man

1171
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: gonna play this summer and he gonna be healthy for

1172
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: the season. None of y'all are taking that back. You

1173
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm telling that.

1174
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 5: You you know.

1175
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: What I'm telling you. You're not taking that back. You're

1176
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: not doing it. And so if you know that, it's like,

1177
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: I understand Team USA. I understand the nostalgia, the patriotism,

1178
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: the international competition. I get it. But damn bro, you

1179
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: keep signing these extensions and you never around when it

1180
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: really really counts. If Kawhi Leonard is hel healthy, I

1181
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: can make a legitimate argument the Clippers would have won

1182
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 1: a championship by now.

1183
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 5: Oh they were looking good January. They was the best

1184
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 5: team in.

1185
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: The league led by Kawhi Leonard. Kawhi Leonard is so great.

1186
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard could have led the Clippers to a championship

1187
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: if he were healthy. How are you cool with volunteering

1188
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: your services for something that does not pay you when

1189
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: you are repeatedly unavailable for the people who do pay you. Now,

1190
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: I understand patriotism and all that other stuff, damn it,

1191
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: Red White, Blue America. First, I'm down for I want

1192
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: us to win. I want us to win gold. I'm

1193
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: root fuss in Paris. I ain't ruined against US. I

1194
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: want you to beat Slovenia. I want you to beat Spain.

1195
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: I damn sure want you to beat when Bianna and

1196
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert for friends. I want you to win. But damn,

1197
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you got to be available for

1198
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: your day job first. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I

1199
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: stand by that, I do.

1200
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 5: I really can't. One thing I will say is like,

1201
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 5: regardless of other people agree with you, you have your facts.

1202
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 5: You ain't making up ship throwing it at the water

1203
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 5: to see if it's not at all. You ain't got

1204
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 5: agree with I'm spitting facts, that's right, sounding like a

1205
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 5: pip too, Like your word play. Your wordplayer is crazy.

1206
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 5: Like I'm a little jealous because.

1207
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: My word play. I gotta be careful though, because now

1208
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm doing so much, you know, like you know what socialistue,

1209
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: social comment, tarry politics, pop coaching, entertainment. I mean that.

1210
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's not been my lane. But everybody comes

1211
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: to me asking me all the time to speak on

1212
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: these issues, these appearances and all of this other stuff,

1213
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, all, I got the especially with

1214
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: the politics joint. It's just no joke. And so you

1215
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: just gotta be ready for anything. Man, you just go

1216
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: to do you just got to.

1217
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 5: I want to piggyback on what you said, though, because Buddy,

1218
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 5: like buddy, buddy, good dude, Bahamas damning like another stench

1219
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 5: to Miami. Spend a lot of spend a lot of

1220
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 5: time over there in Bahama's behavior to take care of

1221
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 5: me over there. So word to the wise out there

1222
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 5: and go to State. Get him some knk Sally, you

1223
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 5: get buddy some kuksalad, he gonna be get.

1224
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,439
Speaker 1: Him some I don't know if y'all got that shit.

1225
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 5: I don't know if y'all got that ship. And go

1226
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 5: to States, get the man some kunks out you get buddy,

1227
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 5: some kanksaut he gonna like that ship up out there.

1228
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 5: Paul George and Philly. That right there, and I have

1229
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 5: been calling it ever since his name was mentioned, and

1230
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 5: called it on first take. That is the move that

1231
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 5: I think is going to be And I understand you

1232
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 5: know what what Clay means, but that move for Paul

1233
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 5: George going to Philly, that is the move that I

1234
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 5: think is going to be the biggest move because If

1235
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 5: you look at what Philly did last year, they were

1236
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 5: twenty fifth and catch and shoot threes. Paul George shot

1237
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 5: fifty two percent on catching shoot three right, that is

1238
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 5: a strength that they that he has the skill set

1239
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 5: that they need.

1240
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: That's what you're looking at. Also looking at his ability

1241
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: to defend against Tatum or Brown.

1242
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 5: That was coming to that too, because you ain't let

1243
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 5: me finish. Caleb Martin, Kelly Oubre, and Paul George. You

1244
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 5: have multiple defenders for Tatum, and they have Kelly ore too.

1245
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 5: Caleb Martin and Paul George. They have multiple defenders for

1246
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 5: those two guys.

1247
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: No disagreement, you know what I'm saying.

1248
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 5: And I love a pick and roll with Maxie and

1249
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 5: embiid throwing it back to Paul George coming off to

1250
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 5: his right hand because he is a monster with his

1251
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 5: coming off to his right hand. So I love everything

1252
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 5: about that movie. I think that movie is going to

1253
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 5: be the biggest movie or something.

1254
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 4: You know.

1255
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: The thing about it is, man, we can't and I

1256
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: know I mentioned embiide early, but we got to pause

1257
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: for a second and really really take a moment to

1258
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: embrace this brother's greatness. Oh yeah, this brother embiid Man

1259
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: bad boy. Now, the brother ain't been out of the

1260
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: second round, he ain't never playing no conference finals. But

1261
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: as a talent at the center position, he is in

1262
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: the conversation as one of the greatest talents we have

1263
01:03:56,040 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: ever seen in the history of basketball. Tell me a

1264
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: seven foot one dude who could do all the things

1265
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: that he does while also playing defense, being a shot blocker,

1266
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: a rebounder. And here's the thing that we have to

1267
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: remember about in b everybody that is his position. He's

1268
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: never disrespected Jokic, but he's given it to Yokic. I

1269
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: remember when I watched him put forty seven on ya.

1270
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: You understand and say, this is Jokis we're talking about. Right,

1271
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: It don't matter what big man you throw at mb

1272
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: embd ain't running, he ain't hiding. This brother will step

1273
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: on the court and he will bust your ass. It

1274
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: is just that simpers. And I remember, and you know,

1275
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: he didn't play at the game in Denver at the

1276
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: last minute or something, and I remember everybody was so salty.

1277
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: It was a naturally televised game and it was very

1278
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: unfor But I know that if Ebid could play, he

1279
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: played that brother ain't scared of nobody, and he'll give

1280
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: it to you. He'll give anybody thirty. Just ask him,

1281
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: Just ask him, and he'll tell you about it beforehand,

1282
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: and then step on the court and do it.

1283
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 5: Great fucking shape, Just get in great shape, because I

1284
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 5: think that has to do with some of his injuries.

1285
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you gotta remember the reason why we can't

1286
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: hold them, but so accountable for that is because all

1287
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: of his injuries have been not all of them, but

1288
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: most of his injuries have been in the lower extremities.

1289
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: He came in into the league, he had the first

1290
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: two seasons his foot, and then there's been the knee

1291
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: here that Yeah, he has some facial fracture at one

1292
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: point in time or the other, but most of his

1293
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: injuries have been in the lower extremity. So what do

1294
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: you do. You're working on everything else, but you can't

1295
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: get in shape without working on your legs. And that's

1296
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: his problem.

1297
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 5: Man, he get in great shape.

1298
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 3: I want to I want to tie hi because I

1299
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 3: love that, because I think em beats will generational dude.

1300
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 4: Too, obviously, Yeah, what do you think?

1301
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 3: What is it that hasn't got him out of the

1302
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 3: second round, Because, like you take. You talked about Joker right,

1303
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 3: Like I was with Joker when he came in the league.

1304
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 3: I saw him as the Taco Bell guy who got

1305
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:13,479
Speaker 3: drafted in the second round.

1306
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 4: I was there for the whole process.

1307
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 5: Is it that question?

1308
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 4: Hold on? Hold on? Is it roster creation? Is it?

1309
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 4: Because because Joker?

1310
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Jamal Murray's elite, but so is Tyre's Maxing.

1311
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 3: So like, what is it that takes to the next level?

1312
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 3: Because they've, like Joker's done it in one of the NBA

1313
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 3: finals and done it through an unbelievable situation where he

1314
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 3: didn't have I mean, their their roster was great. But

1315
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 3: at the same time, Tyras Max Jamal Murray pretty similar,

1316
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 3: Like is it just health?

1317
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 4: Is it? What?

1318
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 3: What do you think it is that needs to take

1319
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 3: him to the next thing? Because that's just to me

1320
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 3: to put him in that level.

1321
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: It's the winning in the day's day and age. All

1322
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do is give it to you from the

1323
01:06:53,040 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: non player pundit perspective. You gotta want it. There's so

1324
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: much money out here. Y'all know this better than me.

1325
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: There's a comfort level that kicks in where you know

1326
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: the check is coming or the check is gonna be there,

1327
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: and because it's guaranteed, you always putting it off until tomorrow.

1328
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: I can take care of this tomorrow. I can do

1329
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: this next week. I ain't gotta worry about this. I

1330
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: ain't got worry about There's some level of intestinal pride

1331
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: and fortitude that has to kick in. One of the

1332
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: things that I'm particular about, like there's a method to

1333
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: my madness. Sometimes when I'm joking about South Beach or

1334
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm joking about La Lilah, call it La La La.

1335
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the major cities. Yes, I'm thinking about

1336
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: the Honeyes. Yes, I'm thinking about the environment. I'm thinking

1337
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: about all of that. Why am I thinking about all

1338
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: of that? Because it's distractions. When you see, for example,

1339
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: in Miami and the distracts actions that exist, and you

1340
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: are d Wade and you Lebron and you Bosh and

1341
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: you you d you Charmers and you everybody else, right,

1342
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: and you go out there and you win championships, you're

1343
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: thinking about the Beatles kind of atmosphere that associates everything stuff,

1344
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: the temptation, the distractions and all of this that comes

1345
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: your way, and you win anywhere, those are people that

1346
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: can win anywhere their natural born win is, nothing's going

1347
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: to distract them from your ultimate goal. But if you

1348
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: someplace you freezing, you cold, ain't nothing to do and

1349
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:43,919
Speaker 1: all you got is your profession. Yeah, there's no excuse

1350
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: because you should be locked in, but it's easier to

1351
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: be locked in. And so I notice the character of

1352
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: players not just because I was watching, not just because

1353
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: I was sitting court side, not just because I've been

1354
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: in the locker room all of these years and stuff,

1355
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: but it's also because I talked to the people who

1356
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: know and they've taught me this is what it is.

1357
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:08,440
Speaker 1: And when you have that, and you're able to overcome

1358
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: anyway because you remain laser focused. That's what it's about.

1359
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: So many of the dudes in today's game lack the

1360
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: focus because they good. You see people right now they playing.

1361
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 4: Now.

1362
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm not hating. I love the fact that you got

1363
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: cast that got there, own podcasts and stuff like that.

1364
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,799
Speaker 1: You know you're doing what you're doing, it's cool, no problem,

1365
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: get yours, diversify your portfolio, create additional opportunities for yourself,

1366
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,759
Speaker 1: but it can't be at the expense of your production

1367
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 1: from your real job, because if that's the case. You

1368
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: got a problem.

1369
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 5: I take it.

1370
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: A lot of people look at me. Yo, man, I'm

1371
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: so blessed. I'm in the best shape I've been in

1372
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 1: in thirty years. I've lost close to forty pounds my

1373
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: body fat. I was skinny fat with a nasty pop belly.

1374
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: I was so embarrassing. I don't want to look at

1375
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: myself in the Damna move my Marborgs from the bathroom,

1376
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: and shit, I was on badros. I just looked that bad.

1377
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 4: You know.

1378
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: I go from that and twenty nine point eight percent

1379
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: body fat to ten point six percent body fat. You

1380
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: know I'm slim, but I'm toned now. I'm cut. I'm

1381
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: in the gym six days out of the week. I'm

1382
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: taking care of myself. My cholesterol drop by one hundred percent.

1383
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: My insulin levels dropped from like a twenty seven or two.

1384
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm not messing around. I'm fifty six. Why the hell

1385
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: did I do it? You guys some pride got care.

1386
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 1: You gotta be like yo, I can't just sit around

1387
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: just looking I can't just sit around looking like this.

1388
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm covering professional athletes. I'm holding them accountable by how

1389
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 1: they look, how they outmatch in shape. They all whatever, Well,

1390
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 1: what you doing now? Some people can't help it. Some

1391
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,560
Speaker 1: people are just naturally big. Some people you know, I

1392
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: get all of that, But are you doing all that

1393
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 1: you can to maximize your potential? If that answer is no,

1394
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: what the hell are you doing holding other people accountable

1395
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: for it for when you ain't even trying. That's what

1396
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, And you could spot it a mile away.

1397
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 6: Man.

1398
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: Where you got cats that are just comfortable? You got

1399
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 1: cats in y'all league, the NBA. I'm gonna call it

1400
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: y'all league, not just mine. More so y'all's. If they

1401
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: never win a championship, they good. They alright with that. Now,

1402
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:29,640
Speaker 1: if you don't win, but you went all out, we

1403
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 1: gonna write your epitaph and we're gonna be like, yo,

1404
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: you're a hell of a player. You see what I'm saying.

1405
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 1: I'm pissed off. It sickens me that Carmelo Anthony never

1406
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 1: won a championship. But I love that brother and I

1407
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 1: know how much that brother care. You don't see what

1408
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And y'all he didn't win writing his epithadh

1409
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: brother Hall of Fame talent, you can't see what I'm saying, overall,

1410
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame don't include just the NBA. It's your

1411
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: collegiate careers, the national champion of SEVERNCU. So all this

1412
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 1: sudden Shaw all American blah blah blah, Parenial All Star.

1413
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: All right, you want to give him Hall of Fame pretentitions,

1414
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: boom him down for that, you know what I'm saying.

1415
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: But there are so many players that have never won,

1416
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: that never kid when they were playing. I want my numbers,

1417
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: I want my paper, give me my numbers, give me

1418
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: my paper. We good and they don't give a shit.

1419
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: And those are the people. I know who they are.

1420
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: I know who they are, bro. And let me tell you,

1421
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: as long as I'm alive and I'm breathing and I

1422
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: got to vote and my shit counts, they ain't getting

1423
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 1: away with that. They ain't getting away with cheating a

1424
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: game like that. It's not gonna happen now.

1425
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 5: I mean what I would say about, you know, to

1426
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 5: your question Mike for me? You know, and be this

1427
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 5: so great that he hasn't even gotten out of his

1428
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 5: comfort zone yet?

1429
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 4: Yep?

1430
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 5: And I think he has to understand how to get comfortable.

1431
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 5: Being uncomfortable. You can't create these habits in the playoffs.

1432
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 5: You have to build these habits over the six seven

1433
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 5: months in the season, so when the playoffs come, there

1434
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 5: is no situation that you are not prepared for. There

1435
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 5: is no game I don't give a damn if it

1436
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 5: goes seven quarters that you're not in shape to finish.

1437
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 5: This is that pat Riley shit that I got in

1438
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 5: out here. There is no situation that you're not prepared

1439
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 5: to conquer at any time. So for me, his next

1440
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 5: step is to get comfortable being uncomfortable, and I think

1441
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 5: that's what he Because joker, we can look at joking,

1442
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 5: we can say he is in shape. I ain't never

1443
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 5: seen him, motherfucker tide. I ain't never seen him not

1444
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 5: being able to finish the game. I've never seen him

1445
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 5: out there limping up and down the court like he

1446
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 5: can't keep up. I've never seen that he's healthy.

1447
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: Though, And Embiid is like I think Embid worries so

1448
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: much about injury that his priority is to get to

1449
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs healthy enough to play because he's that scared

1450
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: he won't be available. That's what I think is the

1451
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: issue would in be I don't know this. I've never

1452
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: talked to him. About this. I'll ask him about it

1453
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 1: the next time I see him. But I think that's

1454
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 1: the issue, wouldn't be But as a player, as a talent, Look,

1455
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 1: I love yo kitchen. There is no big man in

1456
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: the world that I want more than in beid Em

1457
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: Beat is healthy? Oh hell, I say is No, there's

1458
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: no big man in today's game that I want more

1459
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 1: than him. If he's healthy.

1460
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is this is This is like taking shock

1461
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 5: but saying I wish he had a jump shot. I

1462
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 5: ain't taking nothing away from him Beat. I'm taking him Beat.

1463
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 5: I'm just saying that little piece right there, if he

1464
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 5: had that, that'd be perfection. But no players perfect Everybody

1465
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 5: got something. Man, now we're gonna get a tie too

1466
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 5: Easy segments sponsored by Morgan and Morgan.

1467
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 3: No, no, I was I was gonna ask that follow

1468
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 3: up question because like with Summer League going on now,

1469
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 3: we're getting ready for Vegas Summer League, which is an

1470
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 3: unbelievable time of the year. Like, and there's gonna be

1471
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 3: a lot of changes that happened, but the majority of

1472
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 3: the big changes has happened with free agency.

1473
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 4: Who do you got right now? Is is can Boston repeat? Can?

1474
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 5: Is? It is?

1475
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 4: It gonna be New York, Is it gonna be Philly? Like?

1476
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 4: Who do you see winning the championship next year? Because

1477
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 4: that's that's the next phase for us.

1478
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 5: And then well that west coming, that west coming.

1479
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: I think Boston should be the favorites to repeat. I

1480
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: had them winning the championship and then I jumped on

1481
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 1: the bandwagon in the finals because of the way Kyrie

1482
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: and Luca was flowing. But the biggest reason I picked

1483
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: against Boston is because I never thought Porzingis would play

1484
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: in the finals. I thought that what he looked like

1485
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: in Game one, I couldn't believe. I almost fainted, almost fainted.

1486
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it, And you know, and was effective

1487
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 1: in Game two until until the fourth quarter arrived. You know,

1488
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: I was shocked at what they did to Dallas in

1489
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: Game three. I was stunned by that. But you know,

1490
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: props to them. If Embiid is healthy, based off of

1491
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: what we saw and how the moment wasn't too big

1492
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: for him, you could easily put Boston as the favorites

1493
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 1: to repeat. Minnesota needs another weapon offensively before we want

1494
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: to elevate them. I don't think that Clay is enough

1495
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 1: to offset see to me is though, even though Clay

1496
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: is important and Luca is big time, I think that Luca,

1497
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: because of how much he holds onto the ball, sort

1498
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: of disrupts the rhythm of Dallas from time to time.

1499
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: I thought that Luca should have got the ball more

1500
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 1: to Kyrie, right, I believe it was game three. I'm like,

1501
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 1: you disrupting this k He's flowing, Get him the ball.

1502
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: Give it to him. You see what I'm saying. Just

1503
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: let him do his thing. You gotta wonder about that.

1504
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: I would also keep my eyes on Oklahoma City. I

1505
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: think Shay Gili is Alexander. He was my league MVP.

1506
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: I think he is a superstar in the making. He

1507
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: is something spectacular. And them young thoroughbreds that they got,

1508
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: I think Hartenstein comes in there and gives them more

1509
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: bites at the apple offensively because of his prowess on

1510
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: the boards. And I think that helps them immensely. And

1511
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,560
Speaker 1: I would say the number one threat to Dallas in

1512
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 1: the Western Conference is the team that they beat in

1513
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: the conference semifinals, which is okay See.

1514
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 5: And Chicago gave him away for a bag of chips.

1515
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 5: Sinnesoda Caruso, You got Caruso over there too. That's right,

1516
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 5: that's right, that's crazy for sure.

1517
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 3: What do you what do you think about the giant

1518
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 3: Murray the Pelicans out of curiosity not a damn.

1519
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 1: Thing, not a damn thing. But that's no knock against him.

1520
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: John Tay Murray could play. Didn't quite mesh in Atlanta

1521
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 1: with Trey Young. Trey Young's a volume shooter. He's got

1522
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: to improve his accuracy and dare I say his focus

1523
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: being in the at l You know you got to

1524
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: you got to show up. You got to show up

1525
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: otherwise people gonna think you distracted. John Tay Murray could play,

1526
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 1: no doubt, But we all know when it comes to

1527
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: the Pelicans, it don't matter who the hell you bring up.

1528
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: If it ain't Zion Williamson, it don't matter. It comes

1529
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: down to him and what we saw him do in

1530
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 1: that second matchup against Lebron and the Lakers before he

1531
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: went down. He saw him in beast mode and he

1532
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: was in attack mode and went after it before he

1533
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: hurt himself. If that dude shows up for the Pelicans

1534
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: and he's healthy in the playoffs, the Pelicans can make

1535
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: some noise.

1536
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 5: What do you do with I love Willie, I love Willie.

1537
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: Yes, all these good people.

1538
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 4: I say, what do you do with over? What do

1539
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 4: you do with I?

1540
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 5: Over?

1541
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 4: There? Essay with who? Brandon Ingram?

1542
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 1: Who?

1543
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 5: No?

1544
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: How can I put this? When you look at him,

1545
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: you see a game that has not been maximized. You

1546
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 1: don't question his talent, but what you do question is

1547
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: what is he doing to maximize his potential? Some days

1548
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: he just seems to drift, He doesn't seem to be there.

1549
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: And I can't invest max dollars in a dude that

1550
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 1: I can't rely upon and trust. I ain't trying to

1551
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 1: mess with his paper. I wanted to get his paper.

1552
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about what we've seen from him in

1553
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 1: New Orleans. He's one of those cats that need to

1554
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 1: be in a system that's run by pat Riley, in

1555
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: a system that's run by Tom Thevideau, in an environment

1556
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 1: where we're going to hold you accountable. We are going

1557
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: to be in your ass. We are going to be

1558
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: on your neck, riding you till the wheels come off,

1559
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: demanding max effort from you at all times, on and

1560
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 1: off the court. I don't see that from brandon Ingram.

1561
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm not questioning his game. I'm saying his game is

1562
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: gifted enough where we should see far more of an

1563
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: impact from him than we have seen.

1564
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 5: I agree, I to see you never know the one.

1565
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 3: The one good thing is the storylines have been awesome

1566
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 3: this this NBA off season storyline, Summer League and stuff

1567
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 3: like that. It's gonna be interesting to see trans foles

1568
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 3: this year, for sure. There's a lot of the West.

1569
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 3: The West is tough, Boston coming back and repeat what

1570
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 3: New York did, what Philly did, and there's some sleeper

1571
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 3: teams in there that have made some changes, small changes.

1572
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 4: It's gonna be interesting. It's been a lot of fun.

1573
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 5: Killer switch gears real quick. I want to talk aboutasketball.

1574
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 5: With no more basketball, I want to talk about boxing

1575
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 5: because I'm a boxing fan. I know your boxing got

1576
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 5: to tank heat. The man, I think, is he heat

1577
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 5: a man? Right now?

1578
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: I think I think he is a man right now.

1579
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: I think he is he whipping ass and take a name.

1580
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: I think he is from a box office standpoint, because

1581
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: so who's next, He's like, he's like a blood and

1582
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:48,440
Speaker 1: shock infested watersmell bloods. He takes it well, listen chaquee Stevenson.

1583
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 1: But I think that, of course Stevenson hasn't done well

1584
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:52,759
Speaker 1: for himself the last two fights with too Boring.

1585
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I heard his fight the last He's a.

1586
01:20:55,280 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: Brilliant defensive technician, brilliant, but I just think that you know,

1587
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: not box office enough and not that knockout power. In

1588
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: that knockout rate, he's got a less than fifty percent

1589
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: knockout rate. That's number one. I think if you Tank Davis,

1590
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: lo Minchenko is one of the best pure boxers on

1591
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: the planet. Lomon Chenko special do. I think he's a

1592
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 1: little bit too small for Tank might be, especially with

1593
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: that power, but Lowmanchenko is such a brilliant tactician. You

1594
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 1: just never know, so we gotta pay attention to that.

1595
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: I think that you look at ultimately with Tank. Me personally,

1596
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: I would love to see Tank move up to one

1597
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: point and fight tia Fimo Lopez. I would love to

1598
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:44,560
Speaker 1: see that because I think tia Fimo Lopez got the

1599
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: power to make you respect him and deal with him.

1600
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 1: And Tank got the kind of power that can take

1601
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: anybody out and so and not only that, he smells

1602
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 1: blood and he comes for you. And what he did

1603
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 1: to Frank Martin and listen he told Frank Martin, he said,

1604
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 1: you might have. You might have should have waited this

1605
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: before the fight, You might have should have ready, really,

1606
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 1: and then he said, you really really should have waited

1607
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: because you came too soon. And sure enough, Frank Martin

1608
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: came too soon because I watched Frank Martin brother got skills, undefeated,

1609
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 1: nothing to sneeze at all, right, eighteen or oh twelve KOs,

1610
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But here's the interesting part. It's

1611
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 1: interesting if you saw from the first round on you

1612
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: got you got tanks left to be worried about it.

1613
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 1: So you fight from the south poort stance, and you

1614
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,560
Speaker 1: kept that right hand up early, which was wise. But

1615
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: it's one thing to keep the hand up on the chin,

1616
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 1: keep the phone, keep it on the phone, as they say,

1617
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 1: like you're on the phone. It's another thing entirely to

1618
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,560
Speaker 1: be so deliberate with it. When you deliberate with it,

1619
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 1: you're showing you're not necessarily relaxed. You're showing that the

1620
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 1: moment is something you feel. And he was talking and

1621
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 1: coming up with these stories about how he shook and

1622
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: buckled Javonte Davis in sparring, and Javonte was like, oh,

1623
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, he's such a lie. Where you get this

1624
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 1: from such a lie, and he was pissing him off

1625
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 1: and he was cussing. He's like, I'm sorry, I ain't

1626
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: mean the curse. Oh, He's like, you could tell. So

1627
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, let's see. When I saw the first round,

1628
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 1: the bell rang and Gavante walked right to him and

1629
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:33,600
Speaker 1: it was like, buckle me now. It was like that,

1630
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: buckle me now. And I said, oh shit, he coming

1631
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 1: for this kid, and sure enough he took him out.

1632
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 5: I ain't I thow Frank, and I ain't no boxing,

1633
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 5: street fighter, ain't no boxing. But I thought Frank was

1634
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 5: on the rope too much. You're playing, you're playing around

1635
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 5: on the road. No, too much.

1636
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: He wasn't playing. What happened was is that he was

1637
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,560
Speaker 1: using that energy for the first four rounds, and so

1638
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 1: midway through the fourth he like, ship, this is getting tired,

1639
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: So let me lean on the ropes. Try to buy

1640
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: myself some energy, try to buy myself some times. And

1641
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm a good counter puncher, and I think my defense

1642
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: is good enough not to get caught. That's what he

1643
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: was thinking. It was a huge mistaken. It was a

1644
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: huge mistake. And when Tank caught him with that upper

1645
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 1: cut and then the upper cup of the left and

1646
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: then oh.

1647
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 5: My lord, it was yeah killer kind of how I

1648
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 5: hit you when we was in school. Now, but I see,

1649
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 5: I see. I watched that fight because I'm a big

1650
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 5: boxing fan too, so I watched that fight too.

1651
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: But it's him, it's him, It's Terrence Crawford.

1652
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 5: What the fuck is ron with?

1653
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 4: Right?

1654
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 5: See you? What the fuck is he smoking?

1655
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: I have no idea he's yo. He done lost his

1656
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 1: damn mind.

1657
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 4: My bad.

1658
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 5: Motherfucker, he don't.

1659
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 1: He's talking about blacks, talking talking about Jewish folks and

1660
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 1: saying he's a member of the KKK. You listen, if

1661
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 1: he's trying to make a case that he's mentally disabled,

1662
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: he's doing a damn good joke. Okay, there's no doubt

1663
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 1: about it. There's no excuse for it. I like Ryan Garcia,

1664
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: I can't defend what he did. There's no excuse for it.

1665
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: He ain't getting no sympathy this way. That was pretty

1666
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: That was pretty fucked up what he said and what

1667
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 1: he did, and he should be made to hold accountable

1668
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: for it. And I'm glad he was suspended for a

1669
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:23,839
Speaker 1: year by the New York State of the Letther Commission

1670
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 1: for pd use. I'm glad that WBC said we don't

1671
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 1: want nothing to do with him. I'm glad about that.

1672
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm sad for Devin Haney. But it was Devin Haney's

1673
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: fault because here's the deal. Yes, it appears that Ryan

1674
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 1: Garcia used performance in. That's what they say. That's what

1675
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 1: they say, not once, but twice. That's what the reports say.

1676
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 1: But here's where I blame Devin Haney. It should have

1677
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 1: never been okay for you or with you, for him

1678
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 1: to come into the ring overweight. Tank Davis. He wanted

1679
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: to fight Tank Davis. He pushed for the fight against

1680
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: Tank David. What happened? Tank Davis said, Yo, it's a

1681
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 1: weight clause. Yo, it's a hydration clause. So you can't

1682
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: sit up there and then you come in and the weight,

1683
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: you know, the weigh in, and then twenty four hours

1684
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: later you gonna be twenty pounds heavier. Nah, you got

1685
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: this weight clause is a hydration clause. This is what

1686
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 1: you can do. You want this fight, this is what

1687
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna be cool. Ryan got said you had to

1688
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 1: capitulate to that. Otherwise fashion Tank would have said, Nah,

1689
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 1: you ain't fighting Devin Hainey, you're the champion. You thirty

1690
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 1: and oh fifteen KOs undefeated lightweight champion of the world,

1691
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 1: moved up to one hundred and forty pounds. This brother

1692
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: need you. He lost to Tank Davis. Came back and

1693
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: won against somebody else afterwards, but he lost the Tank.

1694
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: Get Davis was trying to elevate his name back into

1695
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 1: boxing's mind's eye again. And you shake his hand during

1696
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 1: the press conference talking about five hundred thousand dollars for

1697
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: every pound you overweigh. He shake your hand and the

1698
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: grease he comes in three pounds overweight, he hands you

1699
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 1: a million and a half dollars. And that's what you did.

1700
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 1: You took the money and you got your ass. B

1701
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. Why now, Clarisia Shields and

1702
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: Sean Porter did this exceptional job calling, you know, doing

1703
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 1: a pre fight and postfight coverage at the time, and

1704
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: they said, Yo, those three pounds matter. I'm not a

1705
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: box that they are. They said that three pounds matter.

1706
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 1: You can't come in here three pounds overweight and that

1707
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 1: doesn't make a difference. That makes a huge difference. So

1708
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: if they knew it, Devin Haney knew it. What you

1709
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 1: take the fight for you should have said, nah, you

1710
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 1: don't make you don't make this weight, we ain't fight it.

1711
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 1: But because you took the fight and took the one

1712
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 1: point five million dollars, now you got that blemish on

1713
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: your record. Yes, it was reversed into a no decision

1714
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: because the ped used, but the bottom line is, we

1715
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 1: saw you get your ass kick, okay, and so how

1716
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,600
Speaker 1: do you recover from that? Because guess what now, I

1717
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: don't believe you could take a punch from Tank Davis.

1718
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: I don't believe Devin Haney belongs in the ring. Don't

1719
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:04,759
Speaker 1: go nowhere, Nit, Tank, don't go nowhere, Nir, Tank, because

1720
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,560
Speaker 1: you can't. I can't believe you're gonna be able to

1721
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 1: take a punch from Tank after what I see saw

1722
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: happen against Ron Garcia, I just can't.

1723
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 2: I can't.

1724
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 5: Keller. Before we get to the fan questions, I got

1725
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 5: one more thing. Whatever they now, they on you a

1726
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 5: little bit about the OJ thing, They on you a

1727
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 5: little bit thing. I'm gonna let you speak on that

1728
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 5: because I got my opinion. But at the end of

1729
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 5: the day, everybody have their opinion.

1730
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:43,600
Speaker 1: There's the deal. We've gotten to a sad place. The

1731
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: personal attacks and all that stuff. Let me be very

1732
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 1: very clear, because that's crazy. That's right, right, Faison whatever

1733
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, you know, do your job, bro, have a

1734
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: nice life. Here's a deal, man. I don't lose no

1735
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 1: sleep over these guts, truly, truly don't. I clap back

1736
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: because I can, and I clap back when I'm in

1737
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: the move to do so ninety nine percent of the

1738
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 1: time I'm not in the move. But I got a

1739
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 1: podcast that I do three days a week. I got

1740
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 1: my show, I'm on television, people Interview meeting.

1741
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 5: Me, a podcast I know everybody know it but don't

1742
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 5: know it.

1743
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 1: Steven A. Smith Show on YouTube and iHeart on iHeart

1744
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 1: Radio on iHeart Media steven A. Smith Show. So I'm

1745
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 1: sitting there like what I was stunned by. So let

1746
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 1: me get this straight. The do in the eyes of

1747
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 1: millions of people, committed double murder. I know he was

1748
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 1: acquitted because he had a great lawyer in Johnny Cochrane.

1749
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: Because Marsha Clark and Christopher Darden stupidly asked him to

1750
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 1: cry on a glove or bloody glove that was months

1751
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 1: old during an eight month trial and shit and alright,

1752
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 1: fine lost to civil suit. Most of the world believed that,

1753
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: why does it matter that we believe that he's a

1754
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: double murderer. It matters you did matter, It matters, eminem,

1755
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,680
Speaker 1: because we watched the trial on television. Now, if we

1756
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: didn't watch the trial, he's a quitted We don't want

1757
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: to hear nothing. He's quitted and he's quitted. But if

1758
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: we watched the shit for eight months, okay, then we

1759
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 1: are entitled to draw our own conclusions. We saw it,

1760
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: We saw the blood. We heard about him hiding in

1761
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 1: the bushes while he was screwing around somebody else. No

1762
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 1: disrespecting the Cole Brown says or nothing like them to

1763
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:22,640
Speaker 1: talk about the trial. You know what I'm saying. We

1764
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: saw all of this. We watched the trial. So my

1765
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 1: opinion is his ass is guilty of double murder. But

1766
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: you're entitled to disagree. What's undeniable. As the brother said,

1767
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 1: I'm not black. I'm ojay.

1768
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1769
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 1: Remember, I want no parts. I don't care about the

1770
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 1: black community. I ain't thinking about black folks. I'm living

1771
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 1: this way. I ain't trying to get involved in all

1772
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: of that. When he was at USC, when he was

1773
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 1: starring in the NFL with the Buffalo Bills. When we

1774
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 1: saw Jim Brown and Muhammad Ali in Kareem abdu Jabbar

1775
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:00,759
Speaker 1: and Kurk Flood and all of these people, John Wooton

1776
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 1: and others standing behind Muhammad al Li when the government

1777
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 1: came after him, didn't you notice that OJ wasn't there.

1778
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 1: He wanted no parts of it. He wanted no parts

1779
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 1: of standing up for our community for his own. That's

1780
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 1: the brother you getting on me about you, Faison, love you,

1781
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 1: Willie d. That's why you coming at me, Cause OJ, really,

1782
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, you gotta be shitting me. So it took

1783
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 1: me a while of like stomach that when in reality,

1784
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 1: my focus wasn't even on OJ. It was on the

1785
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 1: BET Awards. I respect BT Black Entertainment Television, even though

1786
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,839
Speaker 1: it ain't no longer owned by black people. Paramount Studios

1787
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 1: owns that.

1788
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 4: You know.

1789
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 1: We got brother and sister running the network and the

1790
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: awards ceremony as much CTV, and they doing great things,

1791
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 1: and I wish them nothing but the best. Steve Mills,

1792
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:01,599
Speaker 1: Constance Orlando and Connie Orlando and all of the major

1793
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 1: props to y'all, not but love and respect. All I

1794
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 1: was talking about was the decision to mention OJ in

1795
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 1: the nd Memoriam segment, which also included Willie Mays, Carl Weathers,

1796
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 1: Bill Cobbs. You know, John Cephis Jones, Ron Sephiz Jones,

1797
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 1: tremendous actors, Louke Gossip Junior. We gonna mention OJ in

1798
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: the same breath as those people with those people's families

1799
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 1: want O J mentioned in the same breath as those

1800
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:40,800
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You agree, fine, you disagree, you disagree.

1801
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 1: One cat comes out? What the fuck is wrong with you?

1802
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be a comedian. You're shrilling up your face,

1803
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, looking like you're about to catch a stroke,

1804
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 1: and shit, you know, I mean all of this other

1805
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: stuff talking smack what I do to you because I

1806
01:32:56,120 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: have an opinion about the beet Awards honoring. That's why

1807
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 1: you're coming at me, you see, I'm like really, and

1808
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 1: then you just cat Woolie D from Ghetto Boys. I like,

1809
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there like, really, you're half hen you know

1810
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 1: you talking about this. Listen, My woman's fine with me, bro,

1811
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 1: I don't roll like that. What you're worried about my

1812
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:23,640
Speaker 1: head do for? That's all right, that's fine, you know,

1813
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 1: but but I'm like you coming at me, and it's like,

1814
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:36,559
Speaker 1: you know, Sambo Steven from Django, you know, Uncle Tom,

1815
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 1: Like really, you know, I'm just I'm sitting there and

1816
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 1: I could.

1817
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:41,599
Speaker 5: I could.

1818
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 1: I could have gotten medieval, you know, I really could.

1819
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 1: I could have called these cats out, because you gotta remember,

1820
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 1: you can think you're gonna have the last word with me.

1821
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 1: Good luck with that if I want, if I really

1822
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: really want to. But they never have to worry about

1823
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 1: me having to have the last word with them, because frankly,

1824
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 1: they don't matter that much to me. But the thing

1825
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 1: about it is that we come out with these names,

1826
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: and there are NBA players who facilitated this kind of

1827
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 1: thinking about me. I know who they are, ud I

1828
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 1: know who they are, and you got some professional athletes

1829
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 1: because they haven't liked the things that I've said, and

1830
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 1: they facilitate those things about me. You see, you want

1831
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 1: to create this narrative to distract people from the real

1832
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 1: subject at hand, and I'm smart enough to know that.

1833
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 1: But I'm also decent enough to not want to turn

1834
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 1: it into a back and forth the personal text, because

1835
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,600
Speaker 1: you see, I want WILLI D to succeed and I

1836
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 1: want Faison love to succeed. And I want any of

1837
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 1: these cats, hell even some cats in and out of

1838
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 1: the legal used to be in the legal no longer

1839
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 1: in the leege who's still in the league that want

1840
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 1: to come at me. I want them all to succeed.

1841
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,719
Speaker 1: I'm not a brother that roots for failures in my community.

1842
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm not that guy. And I'm looking at it and

1843
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm an ambassador for HBCU week. I've assisted

1844
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 1: whether it's CP, whether it's ESPN, whether it's TNT, whether

1845
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 1: it's the NBA, whether it's the NFL with Troy Vincent

1846
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 1: and others. I've helped raised eighty seven million dollars in scholarships.

1847
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 1: I reached back to help folks all the time in

1848
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 1: our profession. Point a black person or anybody that has

1849
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 1: come up to me and asked me for my sistance

1850
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 1: or my help or my guidance in any way that

1851
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 1: I can help, and ask them what they have to

1852
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 1: say about me and what I've done. I have a

1853
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 1: history of taking my hand and helping as many people

1854
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 1: as I can, because that was the mandate Clarence Big

1855
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 1: House Games and John McClendon handed down to me years ago.

1856
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 1: Don't forget. Make sure you do what you can for HBCUs.

1857
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 1: Make sure you do what you can for Winston Salem State.

1858
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 1: Make sure you do for young brothers and sisters on

1859
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 1: the come up. Ask the sports brothers out He and Miami,

1860
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 1: how what I did? They called me when they were

1861
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:54,759
Speaker 1: on the graveyard shift at two o'clock in the morning,

1862
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 1: and I came on just because they were young brothers

1863
01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 1: trying to keep going. You come into this industy street perk,

1864
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 1: come into this industry, are seeing everybody else. There is

1865
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 1: nobody male or female, especially from our community. Yes, that

1866
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: can come and say that I didn't try to help

1867
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 1: them when they asked me to, and in most instances

1868
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 1: when they don't. We on first take, my brother or

1869
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 1: brother is the boss, ask him what I've done. Ask

1870
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 1: the president of Walt Disney or the CEO Walt Disney.

1871
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 1: By by, ask the president of ESPN and Jimmy Pittarro.

1872
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 1: Ask other people who've worked in this industry what I've

1873
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 1: done for us. Look at the diversity on first take,

1874
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 1: let's see it where you think that comes from. Everybody's

1875
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 1: been handpicked by me. And then on top of all,

1876
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 1: you would come at me like this. I'm gonna tell

1877
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 1: you something, and I ain't say publicly, but I'm gonna

1878
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:45,640
Speaker 1: say this.

1879
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 6: Now.

1880
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:52,560
Speaker 1: You think I haven't noticed that the steam has elevated

1881
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 1: since everybody knows my contract's coming up. You think I'm

1882
01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 1: that stupid. You think I don't know what they try

1883
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 1: to do. What these cats are trying to do is

1884
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:09,759
Speaker 1: trying to bait me so I will do something stupid,

1885
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,760
Speaker 1: so we'll get in the way of my dollars. Now,

1886
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 1: it's as obvious as the sky is blue on a

1887
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 1: sunny day in Miami. But here's the real question. Why

1888
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 1: would you want to do that?

1889
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:25,440
Speaker 5: I was just goin to say why.

1890
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 1: It's like, think about this. Let's just talk real talk

1891
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 1: right now. And I'm speaking from the heart. I have

1892
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:42,680
Speaker 1: never worked less than three hundred and twenty days a

1893
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 1: year in my career at ESPN wo on in this business,

1894
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 1: I show up the least amount of time I worked

1895
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:55,719
Speaker 1: was three hundred days, and I was in twenty seventeen

1896
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 1: when my mama died because she was battling cancer. In

1897
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 1: those last few months, my time was spent with her.

1898
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:03,600
Speaker 5: I understood that was it.

1899
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 1: I've been number one for twelve years in the morning

1900
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 1: on first take in terms of ratings and revenue, I've

1901
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 1: been the number one talent for a decade, all of

1902
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 1: this money. I'm not talking. This ain't about ESPN. This

1903
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 1: is about the cats coming at me. ESPN and I.

1904
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 1: We gonna work out what we're gonna work out, and

1905
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 1: we're not gonna work out what we don't work out.

1906
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 1: But there's no animosity. And I got great relationships with them.

1907
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 1: They got a great relationship with me. Whatever we work out,

1908
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 1: we work out. I'm talking about the cynics and the critics. Yes,

1909
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 1: as hard as our work, as much as our work,

1910
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 1: along with the results I provide. If I don't get paid,

1911
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 1: who's getting paid. I'm not talking about ESPN. I'm not

1912
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 1: talking about Disney because, like I said, we already talking.

1913
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 1: ESPN's already been fair to me. We got no issues.

1914
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 1: We'll work out what we work out. That's not what

1915
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:21,440
Speaker 1: this is about. This is about a mentality primarily emanating

1916
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 1: from our community, where you got cats looking at me,

1917
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 1: knowing the work I put in, knowing how hard I work,

1918
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 1: knowing the results I provide, and still would be like

1919
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 1: yoll fhm, we don't want him. Well, if it ain't

1920
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 1: me who because who else is working three twenty five

1921
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 1: a year? Who else is working weekends? Who else is

1922
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 1: on first take from a seven thirty morning meeting to

1923
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:00,760
Speaker 1: a ten o'clock on the airways to on the air

1924
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 1: for Sports Center at midnight? Who else is doing that

1925
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:11,480
Speaker 1: while generating revenue, while generating ratings when you do a podcast,

1926
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 1: don't sponsors help pay the bills? You see what I mean?

1927
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 1: Sponsors first acre ads? Think about it? When you have

1928
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 1: to generate revenue. When you see producers and associated producers

1929
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 1: and writers and editors and hosts and contributors and co hosts,

1930
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 1: If you not generating revenue, how do they get paid?

1931
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 1: So when I bring stuff up and were talking about

1932
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 1: selling out, who's really selling out? The brother that's hipping

1933
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,639
Speaker 1: you to the game, that's telling you where the minefields lie,

1934
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:49,639
Speaker 1: what obstacles and what mindfields you have to guard against,

1935
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: Or the brother that's telling you to be ignorant and

1936
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,640
Speaker 1: be what you want to be and to bump the

1937
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:57,559
Speaker 1: system and the hell with everybody else while they got

1938
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 1: their hand out behind closed doors for the very system

1939
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 1: they're denigrating. Who really selling out? See? They the ones

1940
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 1: that's selling out because they ain't telling you that you're

1941
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 1: doing shit that's gonna get in your way, that's gonna

1942
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 1: compromise your dollars. When cats come and talk to me,

1943
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 1: I always let them know, here's where the money is.

1944
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:23,760
Speaker 1: This is what's gonna get in the way of the money,

1945
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 1: and then the process of that, you're gonna damage yourself.

1946
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:30,639
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you to be fake. I'm not telling

1947
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 1: you to be phony. I'm not telling you to do

1948
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 1: any of that. I'm telling you there's a time and

1949
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:39,880
Speaker 1: a place for everything. You can't always be what you

1950
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:44,439
Speaker 1: wanna be. When you want to be full throttle and

1951
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 1: get everything you want, you have to maneuver through the mindfield,

1952
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 1: being real, authentic and true to you, but understanding there

1953
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 1: as certain times call for certain actions. These ignorant motherfuckers,

1954
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 1: Well have you thinking that telling them, folks, that is

1955
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 1: selling out? All you doing is sending cats on a

1956
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 1: come up down a dead end boulevard that's gonna cost

1957
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 1: us everything, one by one. I refuse to be that, brother,

1958
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 1: And I've said it, and I've ended this way. I've

1959
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,839
Speaker 1: said it a thousand times. I'll say it a thousand

1960
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 1: more times. Google me look at my track record. Talk

1961
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:39,600
Speaker 1: to people I've covered in any critic, any cynic that

1962
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:46,440
Speaker 1: God's sonning to say substantive, not trolling nonsense, belligerent, childish

1963
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 1: nonsense like supposed grown ass men like Willie Dan Faison

1964
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 1: Love was supposed to be. And I'm not saying they're

1965
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:55,679
Speaker 1: not because I'm not disrespecting them. I'm only talking about

1966
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 1: their comment towards me that was juvenile and immature. Okay,

1967
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying people that got something substantive to say. You

1968
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,880
Speaker 1: want to come at me and question my credentials and

1969
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 1: my commitment to our community and what I have done

1970
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:16,679
Speaker 1: to try to help us, name the time and place,

1971
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 1: and I'll show up. I'll show up by myself any

1972
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 1: day of the week. And I'm telling you right now,

1973
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 1: I'll eat them alive. I'll eat them alive. They won't

1974
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:28,640
Speaker 1: have a leg to stand on because you got to

1975
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 1: have facts to back that stuff up in a public forum.

1976
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 1: They don't have it. They got perception, they got emotion,

1977
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:36,759
Speaker 1: I got facts.

1978
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 5: I mean the problem and I'm gonna let you finish

1979
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 5: it off, killer. But one thing I will say, and

1980
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 5: the thing with our community is the two things can

1981
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 5: be true. You can disagree with me and I can

1982
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 5: still be a real one, Like you could disagree with me,

1983
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 5: and I can still be for our people. And that's

1984
01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 5: the problem. I think the first time somebody disagree or

1985
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 5: he'll sell like he ain't real that shit that crazy,

1986
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 5: Like I can still I can disagree with you and

1987
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 5: still agree that you're a real one. I could disagree

1988
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 5: with you and still agree that you wint to sell out.

1989
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:03,840
Speaker 5: Both can be fucking true. Right. They don't want to

1990
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 5: do that just because I disagree with you.

1991
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 1: Don't do that because that's not gonna provide the impact

1992
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 1: that they want their words to have. Because you see,

1993
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 1: they're not doing it just to vent. They're doing it

1994
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 1: to garner a response. See, I don't have to and

1995
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 1: that's where you're missing. That's where they're missing it when

1996
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:23,720
Speaker 1: they come at me. You're doing it for a response

1997
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 1: because I said nothing. I didn't. I'm not proud of

1998
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 1: this because I am a fan of the Ghetto boys,

1999
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 1: but I really didn't know. I didn't know what. I

2000
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 1: didn't know he was. You know what I'm saying, Like,

2001
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 1: who's that? I didn't know? So I'm happy for him.

2002
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 1: Do your thing, Do your thing, faseon. I've been watching

2003
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 1: phaiseon for years. You know again, you disagree with my

2004
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: oj take. I got it, all of that, and then

2005
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna follow up and you you you you on

2006
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:54,760
Speaker 1: social media. That's what you're doing. You that hard up

2007
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 1: for attention. I don't have to be. I don't have

2008
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 1: to be. I'm not gonna do that to anybody. I'm

2009
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:05,719
Speaker 1: gonna be myself, and I'm gonna be the best human

2010
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,800
Speaker 1: being that I could possibly be. I'm not perfect, I

2011
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 1: can be better, but I'm a hell of a lot

2012
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 1: better than most in terms of where my heart lies.

2013
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 1: And I don't try to intentionally hurt anybody. I have

2014
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: a job that calls for me to call stuff like

2015
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 1: I see it on the playing field, inside the boxing ring,

2016
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 1: outside the octagon, on the football field, on the basketball court.

2017
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 1: That's my job. I don't go off the court and

2018
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 1: get into people personal business and all of this stuff.

2019
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 1: But I see what cats are doing and I'm literally

2020
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 1: looking at them like, first of all, they really think

2021
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fall for this, and like, let you bait

2022
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 1: me into doing something stupid that's gonna compromise my dollars.

2023
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 1: Good luck with that. That ain't gonna happen. But secondly,

2024
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:52,760
Speaker 1: and Most importantly, the thing that has me at home

2025
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 1: sometimes thinking about it is like, why would you not

2026
01:45:57,680 --> 01:46:03,719
Speaker 1: want me to be rewarded for all my hard work,

2027
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 1: knowing that the chances of me being rewarded for it

2028
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: would ultimately improve the chances for others on to come

2029
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:17,800
Speaker 1: up to get the same. There's so many of us

2030
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 1: in the industry. Nate Burros is doing a great job

2031
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:23,560
Speaker 1: on CBS, Michael Trey and is doing a job on

2032
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 1: Good Morning America. Do you know what they're doing and

2033
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 1: what it means to them, what it means to athletes

2034
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,760
Speaker 1: want to come up to show that we can transition

2035
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 1: from sports to general stuff like they doing for CBS

2036
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:40,600
Speaker 1: and ABC respectively. It matters. And so when you have

2037
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:45,559
Speaker 1: people that are precedent setters, that are pioneers, that set

2038
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 1: the stage, you root for them because all of us benefit.

2039
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 1: We got Pat McAfee at ESPN and everybody thinks, oh

2040
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 1: my goodness, he caught up with Pat McAfee. I'm rooting

2041
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 1: for the brother. It's not because of his money, it's

2042
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:04,679
Speaker 1: because of his deal. He's an independent contractor. He owns

2043
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 1: his own business that he leases to a network. If

2044
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 1: he succeeds the floodgates that it opens for all of

2045
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 1: us are limitless. Why would I root against that? I

2046
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:19,799
Speaker 1: want him. I root for him every day to succeed,

2047
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 1: not because of the money, because of the independence that

2048
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 1: breeds the money. How do you not see that? You

2049
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 1: look at Troy Aikman on Monday Night football, or Tom

2050
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 1: Brady with his deal for Fox, and you look at

2051
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 1: Tony Romo. Why would you not root for them? If

2052
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 1: you're an athlete, that's like an athlete rooting against them.

2053
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 1: Why would you not root for jj Reddick to succeed?

2054
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:49,679
Speaker 1: If you want to be somebody who can ultimately become

2055
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 1: a head coach without having to be an assistant coach

2056
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 1: and go through that terrain, why would you root against that?

2057
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 1: Precedent setters and pioneers set the stage for the rest

2058
01:47:59,560 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 1: of us.

2059
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 4: Yes, but.

2060
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 1: Ignoriit cats don't get that because they're too busy, caught

2061
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 1: up in their emotions, and they're not knowledgeable enough about business.

2062
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 1: I could despise your ass and still root for you

2063
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:20,559
Speaker 1: if you're good for business, because that means your good

2064
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 1: business is going to turn into good business for me.

2065
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 1: I can do that. Grown men and women can do that.

2066
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:34,559
Speaker 1: Children have a problem. People who are mental midgets, yes,

2067
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:35,559
Speaker 1: you know who they are.

2068
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 5: Well, I just want to appreciate you. Thank you, dog.

2069
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 5: Advice you gave me. Yeah, the advice you gave me

2070
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,680
Speaker 5: for hero that I took. That advice were good. We

2071
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:49,600
Speaker 5: had that conversation and also the device you gave me

2072
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 5: on this side, I can account for this.

2073
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 1: You are real.

2074
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:55,320
Speaker 5: You shot it to me straight. We done have some

2075
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 5: brother to brother conversations street talk. Ain't that all?

2076
01:48:58,320 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 6: That?

2077
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 5: That proph we talked? You know what I'm saying it.

2078
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:05,639
Speaker 5: You gave me the game and I appreciate you, though

2079
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:07,800
Speaker 5: I can only speak on what I know. All that

2080
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 5: other ship I can't really go on and kept it

2081
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 5: one hundred with me, dog Yo.

2082
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:13,080
Speaker 1: People gonna say what they're gonna say, let him say.

2083
01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 1: I ain't losing no sleep over it. Real knows real

2084
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:17,599
Speaker 1: And those who are cool with me and got love

2085
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 1: for me, I got love for them. Those who don't

2086
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 1: give a shit about me, please, No, I don't give

2087
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 1: a shit about you, Eminem not.

2088
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 5: But love for you, bro always good scene.

2089
01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 1: I know you chilling out there for you and you man,

2090
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:33,120
Speaker 1: you got real potential in this business, my brother, I

2091
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 1: really really believe you are going to be a star.

2092
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm not exaggerating. I think you are going to be

2093
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 1: a star in this business. I big up you every

2094
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:46,559
Speaker 1: chance I get to my bosses and everybody else who

2095
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 1: would listen watch this brother, Right here, here is something

2096
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:52,680
Speaker 1: special in front of this tube. Only the advice I

2097
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:54,640
Speaker 1: gave you was a slow down because I said, you

2098
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 1: got so much knowledge, but you speak so damn fast.

2099
01:49:57,320 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We missing it. Slow down

2100
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:01,679
Speaker 1: a little bit so we can hear. But that's it. Man.

2101
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, and I'm gonna be proud of

2102
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 1: you moving forward. Keep doing you, keep doing your thing. Man,

2103
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 1: all the best team.

2104
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 5: I appreciate everything, brother.

2105
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 4: Appreciate you say. Appreciate your brother. Thanks for coming on.

2106
01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 4: Oh jeez, we're out of here. Brother.

2107
01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 5: Hey, one thing. We got the OG advice right here,

2108
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 5: real quick. We just gonna make this quick man. Okay,

2109
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:23,679
Speaker 5: if you ain't heard it here from Steven A first

2110
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 5: and foremost man. You can't worry about what other people think.

2111
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 5: I can't worry about what other people say. Focus on

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Speaker 5: being your best version, take care of the people that

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Speaker 5: take care of you, and live your life.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: We only got one life.

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Speaker 4: To live, bro.

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Speaker 5: So that's the OG advice today. I mean, it might

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Speaker 5: be kind of cookie cutter, man, but it just speaks

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Speaker 5: to the conversation that we had today. It's a lot

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Speaker 5: of things going around. A lot of people won't want

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Speaker 5: you to not be your best version. A lot of

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Speaker 5: people gonna have opinions on who you are and what

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Speaker 5: you are. You can't worry about that. You can't focus

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Speaker 5: on that. Man, You only got one life to live.

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Speaker 5: OG advice, be yourself and if they don't like it,

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Speaker 5: you know what they can do.

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Speaker 4: Oh Jesus, I love it that, y'all. Alright, man, alright?

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Speaker 5: Killing MoMA, yep, yep, my my my mama.

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Speaker 6: From my my my mama. I'm my my my mam,

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Speaker 6: im my my my mama. I'm my my mama.