1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to be in trouble with my brother in 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: law to begin with, because I was in his house 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: in London without him being there last night and we 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: cracked over him. Your tequila. Oh good, I'm glad. I 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: don't know that I'm in aficionado, but that is my 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: drink on the rocks with line. I'm not on an 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Ajo fan normally, but that was absolutely delicious. I'm so 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: glad you liked it. Um. We we ran out at 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: our place. We enjoy it quite a bit. That's a 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: that's a big finish on the tequila. That will pack 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: to serious punch. We were very happy to be hit 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: with it. Glad to hear it. Hello, I'm mini driver 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: and welcome to many questions. I've always loved Pruce's questionnaire. 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: It was originally an eighteenth century parlor game meant to 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: reveal an individual's true nature, but with so many questions 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: there wasn't really an opportunity to expand on anything. So 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: I took the format of Pruce's questionnaire and adapted What 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: I think are seven of the most important questions you 19 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: could ever ask someone They are when and where were 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: you happiest? What is the quality you like least about yourself. 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: What relationship, real or fictionalized, defines love for you? What 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: question would you most like answered, What person, place, or 23 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: experience has shaped you the most? What would be your 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: last meal? And can you tell me something in your 25 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: life that has grown out of a personal disaster. The 26 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: more people we ask, the more we begin to see 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: what makes us similar and what makes us individual. I've 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: gathered a group of really remarkable people who I am 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: honored and humbled to have had a chance to engage with. 30 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: My guest today is Nick Jonas, a legitimate teen idol 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: who is evolved into a producer, creative director, writer, and 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: actor in addition to continuing to record as a solo artist. 33 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: I find it to be very thoughtful and quite reserved, 34 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: virtually a living antonym for pop star. I was really 35 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: inspired by his work, ethic and how he clearly sees 36 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: creativity as multifaceted and constantly moving forward. I think it's 37 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: quite a hard question, where and when you were happiest? 38 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: Where and when I was happiest. I've got kind of 39 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: two answers that are somewhat similar. I think the piece 40 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: I felt when my now wife and I realized that 41 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: we should give it a proper go. I don't describe 42 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: it as saying, oh, I was you know, I swept 43 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: off my feet, or I don't imagine she was swept 44 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: off hers at that moment, But there was an immense 45 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: piece that I felt that carried on and took us 46 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: into what became my happiest moment, which was our wedding day. 47 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: And it was sort of a six month runaway from 48 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: that moment. I realized it's so interesting around love as well, 49 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: the realization that it throws everything else into relief that 50 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: when you really love somebody, how sharp that is. I 51 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: think particularly it must be I've never been married, but 52 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: I imagine that really is what kind of lights the 53 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: pathway towards marrying somebody. And it's the difference between just 54 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 1: being into somebody and really knowing I want to spend 55 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: the rest of my life with this person. You know, 56 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: it's obviously different for everybody, but for she and I 57 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: both there was there was just an ease to it 58 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: that came. And not to say we didn't think it 59 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: would have its challenging moments, as every relationship, whether that's 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: marriage or friendship or family does, but there was speak 61 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: about that piece again that's just sort of settled for 62 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: each of us. And I think that's probably a good indication. 63 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: If it feels tumultuous and troubling at the beginning, it's 64 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: probably not the thing to write into. But this was 65 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: quite special. It's interesting that you equate peace with happiness. 66 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: I mean, happiness it's so layered. I mean, it's as 67 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: tricky to pin down as love itself. But for you, 68 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: like when you think about your life and all of 69 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: the layers that you've lived at a very young age, 70 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: do you think the piece is the premium because there's 71 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: so much noise in your life and there's so much spectacle. 72 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: I think so. I used to think of happiness tied 73 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: to achievements and that there would be sort of a 74 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: part of goal at the end of the rainbow, and 75 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: that I feel like what ends up happening is if 76 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: you're a person who cares deeply about your work, as 77 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: you clearly do, you sort of just keep chasing more 78 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: of those achievements as opposed to just finding the happiness. 79 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: And then for me, piece came in the picture and 80 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: actually provided ten times the happiness that some career achievement 81 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: or personal achievement could It's something that my mother and 82 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: I used to talk about a lot, which is this 83 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: idea that there's actually no there there. We're set up 84 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: in condition to believe that exactly as you said, there's 85 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: a potch of gold at the end of the rainbow, 86 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: that there's this place we're supposed to arrive at and 87 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: then we will get happiness, as opposed to letting go 88 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: of the notion of arrival and being in the quietness, 89 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: just letting the moment unfold. And it takes a bit 90 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: of practice. Does this year has certainly been good practice 91 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: and sort of settling into peace in general and quiet 92 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: wasn't something that I was used to, you know, kind 93 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: of an anti person by nature, so having to just 94 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: relax and chill out. It was a good thing to 95 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: practice because you can find, you know, a routine that 96 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: actually ends up benefiting you more than just always chasing 97 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: the next thing totally. Did you write very differently in 98 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: this period? Do you notice that your state of being 99 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: informed you creatively? Yeah, well it was too fold in 100 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: the sense that the obstacles, the hurdles that you know, 101 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: we're so unique to this time, so much like we're 102 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: doing now writing over zoom with collaborators. In addition to music, 103 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: now one of my biggest priorities is writing screenplays and 104 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: developing film and television projects, and so that took a 105 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: totally different approach, and in isolation kind of came the 106 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: ability to actually take some time and let it happen 107 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: in a more languid way, as opposed to my sort 108 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: of pattern before, which would be to be as efficient 109 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: quick as possible, which isn't always the best obviously. Yeah, 110 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: And I think it's the same thing. We were forced 111 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: to stay out of the idea of there being this 112 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: place we were meant to reach because we didn't know 113 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: how long this was going to go on for. So 114 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: being creative without that being a time frame I found 115 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: really interesting. And actually the freedom and the sort of 116 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: spaceiness of it actually created more discipline creatively, I found. 117 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: I agree. Yeah, I did feel moments of frustration, you know, 118 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: when I would complete a task, whether it was a 119 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: song or writing a script and the work was done 120 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: and it felt like, oh, the reality said in this 121 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: may never see the light day because of the state 122 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: of the world. Know what's happening, right, And so I 123 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: had sort of my biggest lesson this year and just 124 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: patients and the ability to be proud of something knowing 125 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: that the runway to it being released maybe long. But 126 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: as long as you're happy with your work and how 127 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: you applied yourself to the process, it's it's fine. Got 128 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: your very grown up. I'm literally a hundred and fifty 129 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: times your age. I feel like I'm only just arriving 130 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: at those conclusions. It's cool, like I'm and I'm sort 131 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: of slightly bitter, but I'm also stacked. What is the 132 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: quality that you least like about yourself? The quality I 133 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: at least like about myself. I have knee jerk reactions, 134 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: two things sometimes that I think are incredibly uh stupid, 135 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: And in retrospect it's it's never you know, anything to 136 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: intense or you know, my my fuse is not short 137 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: in the sense that I feel that I get angry, 138 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: but I'll react because, as we all do, there's an 139 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: insecurity that I'm not willing to just sort of own. 140 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: And it's just it's funny. More and more I'll sort 141 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: of visualize myself in the doctor's office and he hits 142 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: the knee with the rubber mallet and it pops up, 143 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: and that's my literal sort of emotional reaction to certain things. 144 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: Can you give me an example of a knee jerk 145 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: reaction to something that you've either in the moment or 146 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: later gone back and thought, you know what that was? Yeah, 147 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: there's there's plenty. I guess you'd have to ask my 148 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: wife too. That's probably example. This was somebody on the 149 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: other end of the knetz Jack reaction getting kicked. Yeah, exactly. Well, 150 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: I think what it is is like, in our early 151 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: days of working, there was a bit of a structure 152 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: kind of to the things that we were doing because 153 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: of our partnership with Disney, which is not to say 154 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: that it was a negative experience. In fact, I really 155 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: thought it was great training wheels for all that we did. 156 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: But naturally there's a structure to it, and so, you know, 157 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: sort of rules and guidelines. As the three of us, 158 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: my brothers and I have gotten older, it can be 159 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: a bit of a thing where we sort of react 160 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: to it. So it's like, oh, you know, it's an 161 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: early more tomorrow we would probably get to bed. It's like, well, 162 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: I'll be fine, I don't need to go to bed now. 163 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: If I want to, i'll go, but I don't have to, 164 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: So it's idiotic stuff like that. But when you can 165 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: own it after the fact, I think it's it's all good. 166 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: Are you quite competitive with your brothers? I mean in 167 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: a brotherly way. I don't mean she's sort of like 168 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: achievement's been in a sibling way. So it's kind of 169 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna I'm going to hold out for the 170 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: last drink and I'm going to be the last bed. 171 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: Does that competition exist within your hierarchy? There is a 172 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: natural competitiveness. My brothers both have kids now, so the 173 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: bedtime thing is they're probably thrilled to get to bed, 174 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: you know. I tend to like to stay up a 175 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: bit later. But we are. We're very competitive. We're all 176 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: big golf fans, are all of you golfers? We are, 177 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: And that's the one arena that gets kind of heated. 178 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: I love it. That's only because none of us are 179 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: that good, and so it's it's tragic when you care 180 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: that much but you actually are terrible. The things. I'm 181 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: not even going to ask your handicap, because it's because 182 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It's all about enjoying the game. I 183 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: got yelled at actually on the golf course the other day. 184 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: I was holding the dogs. I was what, we're waiting 185 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: for this guy to take a shot, and he was, 186 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, whack in it, which I believe is the 187 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: technical term whack in the board away from the technical term. 188 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: So it's holding the dogs, keeping quiet, and you know 189 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: what it's like when someone's watching you. I guess because 190 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: he he whacked the ball real bad. It didn't work out, 191 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: and then he turned around and he yelled at me, 192 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: of course it's your fault. I was just like, I'm 193 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: standing a hold in the labrador like I didn't. It's 194 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: I think, and then his friends laughed at him. The 195 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: best thing about golf is that you can always blame 196 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: someone else for your bad shots. I've realized that, you know, 197 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: it's because this person talkers, because you did that. There's 198 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: an easy out there in your life. Can you tell 199 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: me of something that grew out of a personal disaster. Yeah, there, 200 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a kind of handful of things, but 201 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: one in particular was a state of flub on stage 202 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: that was on televised performance, which which ended up being 203 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: really difficult for me to deal with after the facts. 204 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: It was just it was very embarrassing and one of 205 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: those things where I just had a brain fart to 206 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: describe it, and I was playing a guitar solo and 207 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: just I couldn't get it. My brain was connecting to 208 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: my my fingers, my hands, and and it wasn't the 209 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: end of the world as as you know, as you 210 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: always are able to sort of process in retrospect, and 211 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: from the thirty ft view, it's a blip and the 212 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: bigger sort of life story. I was sort of asked 213 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: myself the question, would this end up in the screenplay, 214 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, of my life? And if it's not significant, 215 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: significant enough that it would, then it's just let it go. 216 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: But this feels like it would have been something that 217 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: would have marked a moment where I hopefully grew in 218 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: that I was more understanding of the fact that I 219 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: am human and I'm going to make mistakes and that's okay, 220 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: and these things happen. That's really nice. I mean that 221 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: kindness would be the thing that would grow out of 222 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: an embarrassing moment for you, and particularly being really young 223 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: with that happening and feeling humiliated that that's it's always 224 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: good to fall on your face from time to time. 225 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. I mean I I 226 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: quite literally do it, and I also figuratively, and I'm 227 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: very clumsy and fall over a lot. I don't think 228 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: it's a bad thing at all. And I think we're 229 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: also I don't know if you agree, but we're often 230 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: trained to sort of a near ourselves, to pain and 231 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: to looking stupid. But it's the best breeding ground for 232 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: like you said, connecting with your humanity. Completely agree, and 233 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: I often think, you know, like God the universe, I 234 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: didn't need to be humbled, and I was pretty humble before, 235 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: but you show up at the times when you least 236 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: expected and just add a little bit to the humility. 237 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: Jar It's good to keep filling it up. I couldn't 238 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: agree with you more. Also, neurologically, when you talked about 239 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: your brain sort of disconnecting from you being able to 240 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: play the guitar. I was going to play in the 241 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: West End at David Mammitt play, you know, full House. 242 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: I've been doing the show for probably three months, and 243 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: when I went on stage and it was just me 244 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: and another actress on stage and you know, David Mammitt 245 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: very quick fire dialogue, and it was like it was 246 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: like the screen had just come down between all cognitive functions, 247 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: and I couldn't remember what I was supposed to say, 248 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: frozen in fear and then just spiraled and it sounds 249 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: quite similar to what you experienced. And it was so 250 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: terrifying and weird and anyway, whatever, you get through it. 251 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: But a few weeks later I was talking to this 252 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: guy who's that's his life is starting the brain, and 253 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: I said, look, this thing happened. Why did this happen? 254 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: And he said, oh, it's really it's actually really common 255 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: with creative people. And also when you've remembered something and 256 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: you've repeatedly done something, it stays in the forefront of 257 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: our brain and our memory. But there's a point when 258 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: you've done it so many times that your brain goes, 259 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, we do this all the time. This needs 260 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: to be reredownloaded to a deep storage and in that moment, 261 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: literally when it's switching over, that's when we have these 262 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: moments of complete and utter forgetfulness and disconnection because it's 263 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: the brain quite literally transferring information. I felt so much better, 264 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, what do I do? And he said, oh, 265 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: you just go and read the play again and you 266 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: tell your brain I'm needing to relearn this you do 267 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: whatever you did when you first sat down with it. 268 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: That's so interesting. It's quite cool. I I love that. 269 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: There's nothing quite like going up on a line on 270 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: stage though it's it's it's the most frightening thing in 271 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: the world. It's shockingly it feels so exposed, exposed and raw. 272 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: And I wonder why it's so terrifying. I wonder what 273 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: we think is actually going to happen, because like, there's 274 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: audience have paid tickets to see us, and they're probably 275 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: all quite nice people, like it's not the Roman colisseum, 276 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: Like they don't want to see us ripped to pieces. 277 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: For me, yeah, I agree with you. It's less about 278 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: the audience. It's the sort of embarrassment of going up 279 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: in front of your cast mates. And I did have 280 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: a succeeding business without really trying Broadway. And there's a 281 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: big monologue and it's very fast and if you if 282 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: you miss, if you hit a speed bump middle of 283 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: it's one of those where you've lost the whole. And 284 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: I hit the speed bump and I kept stumbling and 285 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: my cast mate was looking at me like I had 286 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: a brain problem of some kind. And it was so 287 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: embarrassing more so than the audience. That's interesting. It's peer fear. 288 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: Let's call it that. It's pear fair neck. Absolutely what relationship, 289 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: real or fictionalized, defines love fear, real or fictionalized. I 290 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: would say my parents relationship is quite inspiring to me 291 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: in one that I've always admired. They met very young 292 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: and at college and got married pretty quickly without having 293 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: ever really dated properly. They were just really good friends 294 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: and it evolved into love naturally, and you know, their 295 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: thirty four years. I believe now it's a great relationship 296 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: and certainly inspiring to me. What are the corner stands 297 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: I mean, because again, remember this is all field work 298 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: for me, Like I'm desperate to get answers about everything, 299 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: which is largely why I wanted to do this podcast. 300 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: A thirty four year old marriage becaus a kid. As 301 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: you're watching that as you grow up, do you notice 302 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: all the touchstones rather of what it's built on. Yes, 303 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: I think it's a kind of a combination of a 304 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: passion and love and being in a moment and all 305 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: these things, but also having a roadmap for success or 306 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: potential success, and you know, being able to set sort 307 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: of certain pillars as a couple and as a family 308 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: that you can actually lean on rely on in addition 309 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: to following your heart and kind of being in the moment, 310 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: which is something that uh, you know, in my life 311 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: I've tried to adopt as well. It's wonderful to be 312 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: spontaneous and really important for the kind of work that 313 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: we do, obviously in a creative field, but also understanding 314 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: who you are. Having that roadmap for success is important. 315 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: And when I say success just mean a healthy life 316 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: and marriage or friendships and relationships. It's tricky that with 317 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: to create two people. And I've just found that in 318 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: my life you can be on the same page spiritually 319 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: and the decisions about whether you want children and how 320 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: you would raise them and kind of who you are, 321 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: but logistically it can be so difficult to kind of 322 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: sink that up. Do you think that compromise, I guess 323 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: is something that you may be noticed in your parents relationship, 324 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: or that there's a loving compromise that one finds. Yeah, 325 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I absolutely hear you on not to creative 326 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: people front that can be tricky. In my parents relationship, 327 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: they were both very creative but also very supportive of 328 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: one another. And then found that balance. And my mom 329 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: and dad will talk about, you know times my dad 330 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: was a singer as well, and oh was he It 331 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: was he was a pastor, and I said, I knew 332 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: as a pastor. I didn't know he was a singer. 333 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: It's very talented. But he would show up, you know, 334 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: in the early days of their marriage and have been 335 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: at the studio until four in the morning she was 336 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: with the three of us, we were quite young, and 337 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: show up with his tapes and she would like lean 338 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: up against the wall to stay awake to listen to it. 339 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: But the fact that she was willing to get up 340 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: out of bed and listen to his thing that he 341 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: was excited about it was really meaningful. And in the 342 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: same way, he would show up for her in ways 343 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: where she was being creative and needed to feel supportive. 344 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: I've found that. But I also know and have experience 345 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: in different relationships in my past and even friendships and 346 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: things like that, times where those two creative forces can 347 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: be really competitive and it's not the best to fit. 348 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: I guess when you say compromise, that's very important and 349 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: an essential piece. But also that willingness to sort of 350 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: at any point in time whether it's during the morning 351 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 1: or too in the afternoon, and show up and be 352 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: supportive of one's passion about something. What question which you 353 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: most like answered? Well, I am currently reading Sapiens, so 354 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: I'm deep into that world. And also it's simultaneously we 355 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: started watching the first season of Ancient Aliens. So I 356 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: don't necessarily want to know everything about how it all happened. 357 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: And when I say that, I mean the Earth and 358 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: civilization everything, but I would like to know some of it. 359 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: Just give me a little bit, which bit, like are 360 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: you like I would like to know if there was 361 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: a creative hand in the Big Bang, because I mean 362 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: even Harari doesn't get to it in Sapiens, Like I 363 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: was waiting for that to be. I mean, I don't 364 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: want to do any spoilers, but like it's not like 365 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: you get to the end of it and it's like, 366 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: this is what's up. I don't want to ruin it 367 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: for you. But there's no specific answer. Yeah, a conclusion, 368 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: yeah no, no, no, it's I saw it trending that direction. 369 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: So if I had like one thing i'd want to know. 370 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: I think one of the most fascinating things to me 371 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: about Homo sapiens is our ability to love one another, 372 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: and how there's a reverse reaction to that, which is violence, 373 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: and understanding why that happens. So that's something that I 374 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: just think is fascinating when that began and when it 375 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: evolved into what it is to day, because I think 376 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: a lot of the world's problems could be solved if 377 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: we had some understanding of that piece. I would really 378 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: like to know that as well. I would also really 379 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: like to know why more people aren't talking about the 380 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: little green pyramids that were seen off the naval ship. 381 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: I don't know about this. Oh you need to when 382 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: you get off the phone and you go deep. You 383 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: don't even have to go that deep. It was like 384 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: on the Today Show, it's everywhere. But they finally released 385 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: this footage that I guess the Navy have been recording 386 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: for years, and it's it's epic. I've we've now in 387 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: our household, We've been talking a lot about, you know, 388 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: if there's some bad behavior in our household. It's like, 389 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: what do you think the aliens would think about that? 390 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: They were if they were seeing that at the moment 391 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: they're watching, and I wonder what they think, Like, do 392 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: they think that we are just so extraordinarily primitive because 393 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: of the reasons that you just said, because of our 394 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: insane violence and our extraordinary capacity to love. Like, do 395 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: they feel that vibrationally or are they just looking at 396 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: our tactical missiles and and ships and going, boy, that's 397 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: that's some behind stuff. Yeah. I think it's probably a 398 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: combination of both. Do you love space because your record 399 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: is called Space Man, and I did watch a couple 400 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: of your videos and they do seem to be connected. Yeah, 401 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by it a little bit. The album and 402 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: the whole idea that came more so from being kind 403 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: of isolated from the world and feeling disconnected and and 404 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to give that a name, sort of an 405 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: era record, a bit of a theme. Didn't necessarily think 406 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: it's a concept album, but it has fragments of that. 407 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: I think it's really cool. Thank you. Did you shoot 408 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: the videos during lockdown as well? We did? Yeah, you know, 409 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: we went out to for the Spaceman video. Were not 410 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: to displace here in California. It's a couple of hours 411 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: away from l A that's at some point was a volcano. 412 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: So the volcanic rock all around this site and pretty 413 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: fascinating place. And then the other one I shot in 414 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: London for a song called This is Heaven. I like 415 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: the fact, you know how, you're writing a screenplay and 416 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: this has happened, and you write his jet pack ignites, 417 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: and then in the Spaceman video, his yeah pack does ignite. Yeah, 418 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: I was trying to create some you know, Spaceman universe stuff. 419 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: By the way, it worked, Nick Jonas, because I saw 420 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: it and I completely loved it. Well, thank you very much. 421 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: They're with really beautiful videos. It was like watching a 422 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: short film that they were loving. Thank you. It's pretty cool. 423 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: I think it's my favorite question. But what would be 424 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: your last meal? My last meal? I've thought about this 425 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: quite a bit, so it's a little bit off the wall, 426 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: but just go with me for a second hit. First 427 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: course would be a Nioki pesto with pine nuts. That's 428 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: just my favorite. You're the first person, by the way, 429 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 1: to go already split it into courses, Bravo, carry on. 430 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: Second course would be a Japanese steak some kind not 431 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: like wagu, but like a Japanese seared steak with with 432 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: a soy glaze or something really kind of decadent and amazing. 433 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: And then I would finish it with and this is 434 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: abnormal because should usually confirst, but I finished with a 435 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: piece of pizza, Pepperoni pizza. That's like the final send off. Wait, 436 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: I love I love that that's the final send off. 437 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: So it's there. She's like the last minute in you know, 438 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: the rizzler paper breath between life and death potentially, and 439 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: for you as Pepperoni pizza. Yeah, it's like you know, 440 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: we we start as children loving pizza and eating pizza 441 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 1: and having no consequences to that and just eat as 442 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: much as it as you want. It's great, and then 443 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: you know, you start choosing other things as you grow up, 444 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: and then going back to that as they send off 445 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: is what I'd want to do. Just the simplicity of it. 446 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: I really love that. Is it also because he is 447 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: from New Jersey and like pizza is in your blood, 448 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: it is. I would argue that there are better not 449 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: per capita, but there are better piece of shops in 450 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: New Jersey than there are in New York. But there 451 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: are also great places in New York. I love. It's 452 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: a bold statement, but I think that's what you're supposed 453 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: to do about your home state and I have fund 454 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: some good pizza in London to know. Oh yeah, and 455 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: by the way, there's like a whole racket going on 456 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: with pizza ovens that people have now got. I've had 457 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: better pizza in people's back gardens because it's crazy therm 458 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: imported from Naples ovens. Then maybe in the stores when 459 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: you're back in London, maybe I'll just give you a 460 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: tip about way you could put one in your in 461 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: back garden. It's good to know. I'm up for it. 462 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: I love a good slice of pizza. So wait, just 463 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: really quickly because I have to clarify. So no dessert. 464 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: Pizza is your dessert. You don't have a sweet tooth 465 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: at all. I do, but I want to end it 466 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: savory the sweet you know you know what that's um. 467 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: It's a very bold choice. No one has been there 468 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: yet and I'm very much here for it. I can't 469 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: thank you enough for your time, Thank you for having 470 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: this was great, very welcome, and I'll see you on 471 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: the golf course. Indeed, let's do it. You need your 472 00:24:54,000 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: mini driver what. Nick's fourth studio album, Spaceman, was released 473 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: on March twelve. It's an album that evolved out of 474 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: our global Lockdown and explores themes of distance and dislocation. 475 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: There is also a Mad Good sax solo in the 476 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: second single he released, called This Is Heaven. Nick hosts 477 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: the Billboard Music Awards on MA Mini Questions is hosted 478 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: and written by Me Mini Driver, supervising producer Aaron Kaufman, 479 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: Producer Morgan Levoy, Research assistant Marissa Brown. Original music Sorry 480 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: Baby by a Mini Driver, Additional music by Aaron Kaufman. 481 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: Executive produced by Me and man Gesh Hetty Cadore. Special 482 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: thanks to Jim Nikolay, Will Pearson, Addison No Day, Lisa 483 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: Castella and Nique Oppenheim, a w kPr Day, Pescador, Kate 484 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: Driver and Jason Weinberg, and for constantly solicited tech support 485 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: Henry Driver, M