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Speaker 1: The first question we asked everybody who come on the

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Speaker 1: show when you first made it to the league.

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Speaker 2: Who was the first person to bust your ass?

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Speaker 3: Who was the first person that bust my ass?

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Speaker 2: Who?

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Speaker 3: Man? Kevin Johnston, Oh my god, Lo Lo. I couldn't

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Speaker 3: sleep that night after the game. Definitely gave it to me.

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Speaker 2: Phoenix in Golden State.

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Speaker 3: No, we was in Phoenix. It was actually it was

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Speaker 3: a preseason game.

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Speaker 2: That's right, this is the beginning.

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Speaker 3: This is the beginning. You got to show people. You

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Speaker 3: gotta show the Rooks when you come in and say, look, man,

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Speaker 3: this size is gonna be all season long until you

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Speaker 3: get to where you need to get to and to

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Speaker 3: you understand, you know the NBA. But I'm gonna give

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Speaker 3: it to you every game and this high it is

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Speaker 3: gonna be. He gave it to me that game. I

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Speaker 3: couldn't wait to see him that next game. Man, I

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Speaker 3: couldn't go to sleep that night. I was like, he

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Speaker 3: gave it to me, but yeah, he bust my ass.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yo yo yo, be live on location.

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Speaker 5: Me and d Miles is in Orlando staying I asked

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Speaker 5: at home and staying safe.

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Speaker 4: And this is a special one. Man.

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Speaker 5: We got Chicago, NBA Legend and Royalty in the building.

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Speaker 5: We got from the South Side, from the Garden, from

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Speaker 5: Carver High School, the UTAP two step, the original Crossover King.

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Speaker 5: We got the og Tim hard Away in the building. Y'all,

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Speaker 5: y'all know what that means. Somebody about to get cross stuff.

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Speaker 4: What's good? Oh, g appreciate you coming through the chill

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Speaker 4: with us, man.

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Speaker 3: Man, Thank you for having me on. Man. When you

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Speaker 3: asked me, I was like, oh yeah, I got going

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Speaker 3: my goy Q. I love what y'all doing. I love

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Speaker 3: everything y'all do all the time. Man. Much success to y'all,

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Speaker 3: and thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Let's get it. You went to Carver High School? How

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Speaker 2: was that? How was your years in Carver?

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Speaker 3: Man? My years at Carver was great, Man. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: changing for the world. You know. I took two and

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Speaker 3: a half hours of bus rides and trains to get

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Speaker 3: out there because that was the best possible school for

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Speaker 3: me at that particular time. You know, I had friends

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Speaker 3: You know, CBS they didn't want me. They had some

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Speaker 3: other guys some friends of mine that played there. I

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Speaker 3: didn't want to go to South Shore because they wasn't

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Speaker 3: as a lade and they was in the Blue Division.

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Speaker 3: So I wanted to go to you know, a team

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Speaker 3: that's going to get recognized each and every day and

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Speaker 3: get pressed each and every game.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I went to Carver High School. You know, we got

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Speaker 3: great tradition with Cassie Russell Terry Cummings. So I went

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Speaker 3: to the school with great tradition and great, great, great coaching.

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Speaker 5: Also, Like, but the thing that's crazy to me to

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Speaker 5: hear you say you took trains and busses two hours

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Speaker 5: ago to the gardens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to the garden.

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Speaker 5: Like now, now the general public might not know what

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Speaker 5: that is, but I'm here to let y'all know. Chicago

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Speaker 5: aut Gil Gardens is one of the toughest whatever you

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Speaker 5: wanna call it, projects, neighborhoods, whatever, it's like project. I

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Speaker 5: had family and lived in there, bro. I when I

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Speaker 5: first went there, I was looking like, what is this?

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Speaker 5: Like myhad foundly on block seventeen, block twenty three. It's

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Speaker 5: like it's blocks, bro, It's like rowhouses blocks.

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Speaker 4: It's like it was.

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Speaker 5: It was crazy and so you took two hours drives

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Speaker 5: and busses to get out there, and that was your

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Speaker 5: confidence on that say, another thing that tell you about

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Speaker 5: your toughness on a whole other level. To begin with

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Speaker 5: you like this, this is where I was comfortable at.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was comfortable there.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I grew up with the al Rookings and all them

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Speaker 4: Wasn't up straight up.

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Speaker 1: So when you're coming up like dribbling, I tried to

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Speaker 1: dribble like you. Everybody tried to dribble like you, Like

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Speaker 1: I know in the beginning the start, how did this start?

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Speaker 1: Like how did your dribbling start? And you just fell

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Speaker 1: is what y'all do.

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Speaker 3: Well, it started back in grammar school and I used

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Speaker 3: to dribble the basketball to go get milk. Back then

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Speaker 3: we had to have a note for cigarettes.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, they don't know about that. You can

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Speaker 1: get my mama like that sitting in the car. She

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Speaker 1: just sent me up here. She don't want to get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I dribbled the ball I drive. I used to

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Speaker 3: dribble the ball back and forth early in the morning,

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Speaker 3: if I one arm get tired carrying the milk or

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Speaker 3: I just drip up and down the street. But on

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Speaker 3: Then you say, Tim, all right, we're gonna walk the ball.

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Speaker 3: You gotta walk the ball all the way to the

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Speaker 3: park every time. That means a lot of people don't know.

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Speaker 3: Walking the ball means putting.

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Speaker 2: Just gone.

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Speaker 3: And you couldn't do it on the sidewalks because the

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Speaker 3: people was walking on the sidewalk and it was crash.

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Speaker 3: It might be, you know, the sidewalk might be up and.

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Speaker 3: So I would walk the ball up and down the

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Speaker 3: You know, if you hit a rock, oh.

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Speaker 1: My god, yeah, old you hit the shop guy, you

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Speaker 1: got to bring it back.

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Speaker 3: Every block I walked, it was a dollar, So give

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Speaker 3: me a dollar. Every block I didn't walk, I had

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Speaker 3: to give up a doc. So your concentration had to

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Speaker 3: be enormous. Your concentration had to be really really sharp

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Speaker 3: you know back then a dollar, man, a dollar because

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Speaker 3: if you walk three or four blocks, four or five dollars. Shit,

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Speaker 3: I think dollars the last year, you know the whole.

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Speaker 2: You already know for real, you already know.

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Speaker 1: I have two twelve year old sons and I'm teaching

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Speaker 1: them how to dribble in. One of the things I

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Speaker 1: try to teach them is the rhythm, the rhythm, Like

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Speaker 1: it's a rhythm. It's a rhythm with the ball, Like

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Speaker 1: there's so much a rhythm of the ball. And like

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Speaker 1: I said, some of the stuff like you and isaa Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I used to watch so much because you know.

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Speaker 2: Your crossover is the best crossover ever.

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Speaker 1: You know, these kids these days, they just crossed but

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Speaker 1: know the balance of it. You gotta have balance. You

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Speaker 1: gotta have a lot of rhythm everything, and not on

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Speaker 1: the shift and shift. Not only that he didn't he didn't.

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Speaker 5: He didn't cheat the rules with his His was a

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Speaker 5: real crossover break.

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Speaker 4: Now, it was it was, it was. It was not

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Speaker 5: It was a real everything was real fundamental basketball by it.

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Speaker 5: But you made it so cold and so so just

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Speaker 5: destructive though it was like blood like he every kid.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't no kid that didn't know how to do

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Speaker 5: the Tim Holloway, even if they was terrible at it.

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Speaker 4: You knew how to do it.

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Speaker 5: And it sounded like you started the beginnings of it

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Speaker 5: walking them blocks like that, and that what make it

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Speaker 5: just effortless for you?

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Speaker 4: Walking that ball like that. Then you just started doing

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Speaker 4: moves like off of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I'm gonna tell you it. Another thing a

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Speaker 3: guy taught me I was in high school. He said,

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Speaker 3: you could eat the ball up really fast, up and

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Speaker 3: that three point line. You got to get yourself in

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Speaker 3: control to make a move. So if you want to

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Speaker 3: not gonna be able to control the basketball and you're

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Speaker 3: not gonna be under control with your body.

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Speaker 2: Face.

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Speaker 3: Ye, you fall on your face exactly. I tell these

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Speaker 3: kids today when I teach them, I say, Yo, when

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Speaker 3: you're trying to run a fast break. You got to

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Speaker 3: start chopping your feet right around after that that three

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Speaker 3: start chopping your feet up and getting yourself under control.

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Speaker 3: So if you want to do the crossover, you can

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Speaker 3: do the crossover. If you want to do an in

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Speaker 3: you just strictly just want to do a crossover between

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Speaker 3: to be under control. So that's why I teach the

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Speaker 3: kids now, you know, And that's what I had to learn.

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Speaker 3: I fell on my face many a time. It's coming

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Speaker 3: up like, oh, you know, and I just go back

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Speaker 3: and I redo it again. I you know, just redo it.

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Speaker 3: That's what practice. Practice, practice, take perfect, make you perfect.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I used to do. I used to

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Speaker 3: practice all the time. So and you're teaching your kids,

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Speaker 3: right man, it's a rhythm the basketball. It's a rhythm

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Speaker 3: that dribbling, that basket, that basketball bounce, and it's a

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Speaker 3: rhythm to and you got to hear make music. That's

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Speaker 3: what I used to do. I used to music, you know,

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Speaker 3: And that's the way I learned how to, you know,

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Speaker 3: dribble the basketball and get really really good with it.

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Speaker 1: When I start dribbling good and so forth from every

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Speaker 1: time I touch the basketball. You know how they throw

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Speaker 1: you the basketball and you'd be like, I want to

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Speaker 1: feel it. Why did you start getting to feel like

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Speaker 1: you know how you throw the basket when you walk

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Speaker 1: on the court.

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Speaker 4: Let me see that right quick?

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Speaker 2: When you start getting.

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Speaker 1: That feeling like, oh yeah, I can control that, or

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Speaker 1: I know how to dribble this ball. Because sometimes you

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Speaker 1: get hard ball, sometimes you get softball. Sometimes you get balls.

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Speaker 1: It ain't gonna bounce back up it's quick, yeah, But

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Speaker 1: when when did you grow up and you just start

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Speaker 1: feeling it every time you touch that ball, It's like, oh, I.

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Speaker 2: Feel something different.

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Speaker 1: I think basketball player are the only ones that know

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Speaker 1: this feeling like when you get this ball, it's something different,

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Speaker 1: like oh I can do I know what I can

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Speaker 1: do in this game with this ball.

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Speaker 3: I don't know now, but when we was playing, it

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Speaker 5: You know, shaped and impacted you from a toughness to

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Speaker 3: we shoot dollars from a free throw lines. All right,

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Speaker 3: You know. He talked to me and was like, yo, Tim,

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Speaker 3: Like he'll be, like, yo, Man i'm ready to. Play everybody, like, no, no,

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Speaker 3: Away so that's What chicago always taught us to understand

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Speaker 3: and a lot of guys that didn't understood just fell

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Speaker 3: Man it was away from, home But i'm gonna tell you, this,

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Speaker 3: MAN i LOVE i still love going back. THERE i

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Speaker 4: Time.

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Speaker 3: Now, man it's, slow it's real, slow but you you

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Speaker 1: What was Like Don? Haskin what was him to? You

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Speaker 3: Tough it was very, tough but you know what he.

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00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 3: Said you, know there's tough survive and you have to

439
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 3: be tough and. Understand you, know people that have been

440
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 3: there before you it was their time to play and

441
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 3: it was always a. Rotation all. Right if you're a,

442
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 3: FRESHMAN i don't care how good you, are you still

443
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 3: got to prove yourself in practice and to these guys

444
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 3: here or that's been on this team for two or

445
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: three years, already and you, know it was just a humbling.

446
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 3: Experience he tell you like it, Is he teach. You

447
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,479
Speaker 3: he was talking to. You he made you understand you

448
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 3: know what to do and how to do, it and

449
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 3: how to become a. Man, basically you, know not not

450
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 3: become a basketball, player because once you leave that house

451
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 3: and go to a college away from, home you got

452
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 3: to become a. Man it's like these guys coming in

453
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 3: THE nba right, now as you, know a sophomore going to,

454
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 3: college they not around, Family they around grown. Men this

455
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 3: is a business. Now so when you step into THAT nba,

456
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 3: round you are a. Man you gotta take care of

457
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 3: your own. Bills you gotta take care of your own

458
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 3: washing and. Cleaning you gotta take care of feeding yourself

459
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 3: when practice is over. WITH i, mean it's a whole

460
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: lot you gotta. Do and that's the way he taught

461
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 3: us when we got. There you, know you gotta grow.

462
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 3: Up we're gonna help you grow. Up we're gonna help,

463
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 3: you you, know. Mature we're just not gonna leave you

464
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 3: out there by. Yourself if he wants you to become

465
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 3: a man and, understand it's a process, Here this is a.

466
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 3: Process you gotta take baby steps before you can run.

467
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 3: Walk and that's what we, did, Man and it taught

468
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 3: me a. Lot it slowed me, Down it made me

469
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 3: understand and patience is a. Virtue if you take your

470
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 3: time and be patient with, stuff it will come to

471
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 3: you and you understand how to deal with everything and

472
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 3: it come To.

473
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 5: FISHARD i THINK i think that's a, great great, message

474
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 5: especially in today's you, know society and. World it's almost

475
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 5: like nowadays for these kids coming up in high school and,

476
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 5: stuff if you a McDonald's All, american you you, know

477
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 5: you make it to be that prestige and.

478
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 4: Level in high.

479
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 5: School if you go to college and you not want and,

480
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 5: done it's almost like you a. Failure it's, like, bro

481
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 5: you're not a failure because it's, like you know a

482
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 5: lot of those kids at the McDonald's games of THE

483
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 5: Usa games and, everything if they feel like they have

484
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 5: a pressure on.

485
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 4: Them it's all this social media.

486
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 5: Stuff it's like if you don't go to college and

487
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 5: like you, say boom bam ban go in average twenty

488
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 5: and be able to get up out of, there it's

489
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 5: like you was a. Bus it's, like slow, down, bro

490
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 5: that's Not you're not a. Bust so you're in, college

491
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 5: you got three more years to do your, thing and

492
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 5: possibly more with the way they're doing fifth year guys

493
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 5: and all this other up like guys have to get

494
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 5: settled in their mind that take your. Time you got

495
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 5: plenty of. Time it's, like, okay even if those guys

496
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 5: in your, class they, win they average twenty five and

497
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 5: they gone and you see them in the, draft it's

498
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 5: like that's what was for. Them that doesn't mean that

499
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 5: it's not for you in a year or two or

500
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 5: next year or a year after. That but like you

501
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 5: just gotta stay focused on your mission and your goals

502
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 5: and what you gotta. Do be happy for. Them you

503
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 5: ain't got to be no, hay they be, happy. Celebrated

504
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 5: that's your boy or whatever or you. Whatever be happy for,

505
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 5: him but, like believe in, yourself keep doing what you gotta.

506
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 4: Do and your time will.

507
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 5: Come BUT i agree with you as far as like

508
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 5: be patient BECAUSE i see. IT i don't feel like,

509
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 5: that BUT i see how people look at some of these,

510
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 5: kids like if you not wanting, done it's like what he,

511
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 5: Doing he ain't doing. Nothing it's, like, man he, adjusting he's,

512
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 5: learning he's. Growing like give him a year or two

513
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 5: and you will see what's. Happening but don't write these,

514
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 5: kids ok because they not a freshman feenom and don't

515
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 5: go right out and.

516
00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: Kill you're absolutely, Correct you absolutely. Correct three with you

517
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 3: one hundred. PERCENT. Q i tell kids AND i tell

518
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 3: their family that, today if you go there and you

519
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 3: you not want and, done you get like you, said

520
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: you got three more.

521
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 2: Years to get, better to get.

522
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 3: BETTER i mean you, there you dare to get.

523
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 6: Better if if it takes you two, years if it

524
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 6: takes you three, years if it takes you all four,

525
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 6: years then then if, that if it takes you all four,

526
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 6: years then you mentally ready to go to the next

527
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 6: level and be ready to step in right away to.

528
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: Way so don't don't don't think that you GOTTA i

529
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: gotta go one and.

530
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: DONE i gotta go one and. Done that's what.

531
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 4: That's that's the. Man it's putting.

532
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: Pressure, yeah tell us about THE u tip two.

533
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: Step, well this is what, happened.

534
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: MAN i was working on this move in the summertime

535
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 3: BEFORE i got there and. Everything we up were playing

536
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 3: our first game N i t we at The university

537
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 3: Of washington And. Seattle they drove, us, Drove we lost by,

538
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: thirst and we come back home to the L pass

539
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,719
Speaker 3: so we can't get in our building because the girls

540
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 3: already had a. Practice then we thought that we was

541
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: gonna stay there and play another. Game we had to

542
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: come back, early So Don, haskins he was already pissed

543
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: off and everything. Already so we went to The interramuri

544
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: gym across the street and we practiced for like three.

545
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 3: Hours he ran the hell out of. Us defense, defense. Defense.

546
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 3: Defense one guy is, like, hey, man you know we

547
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: didn't play in the. Office let's play one on. ONE

548
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 3: i was, like all, right, Cool So i'm playing one on,

549
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 3: one and you, Know i'm winning the last. GAME i

550
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 3: crossed them all and went in for a. Dump and

551
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: a guy we didn't even know this guy was up

552
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 3: there At custodian was up there. Cleaning we thought he

553
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 3: was you, know everybody should just was still. Out he

554
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 3: was like wow and we AND i, was, MAN i, said, man,

555
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: see he's not supposed to be in.

556
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 4: Here you.

557
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 3: KNOW i don't mean to embarrass you or nothing like

558
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: that or. Whatever he was, like, no, MAN i can't

559
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: lose like. THAT i can't lose like. That SO i

560
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 3: did it, again you, know AND i just kept crossing

561
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: them over AND i didn't know WHAT i HAD i

562
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: didn't know WHAT i was. DOING i was just playing,

563
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 3: basketball you, Know i'm just trying to get to the,

564
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: rim trying to make a, play trying to get open

565
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: to make a, shot and do all that type of

566
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: myself and my game. Better so that's where it started

567
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: at way back my freshman year in, college and that

568
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: particular time right there when he, said you, know you

569
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: know you got that's a nice. MOVE i was, like,

570
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 3: YEAH i, see you, KNOW i got opened a lot with.

571
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: It so that was just one of you, know move

572
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 3: THAT i had in my in my.

573
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: Weptore you decided to put your name in the.

574
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: Draft how many workouts you had going into that draft

575
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: for like different.

576
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 4: TEAMS i went to.

577
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: SCHOOL i went went to school four. Years, YEAH i

578
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: went to school four. Years SO i didn't put my

579
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: name in time to. Go, yeah my collegiate career was.

580
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: OVER i had to go, somewhere no more.

581
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 3: Eligibility so this what. Happened SO i go to The

582
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: final four And michigan is playing Against. Illinois all my guys.

583
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: There i'm in the senior. Game SO i get THE

584
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 3: mvp of The senior. Game so they was, like all,

585
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: right we want to invite you To. Portsmouth SO i

586
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: go To, portsmouth play well In, PORTSMOUTH i was the

587
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: last guy In portsmith to GET mvvp in a losing.

588
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: Championship all. Right THEN i was going to go home to,

589
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 3: pass so they was, like, no you gotta get on

590
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: a plane and go To orlando for the big. One

591
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: SO i went. THERE i wanted to play against all

592
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: these guys that they thought was better than, me like Lay, Line, Sherman, Douglass, Pool,

593
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: richardson Bj arms from all those. Guys you, know they

594
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: thought that was ahead of, me AND i wanted to

595
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: play against them and show them like, no, no, no,

596
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: no you haven't seen the real. Deal so all them didn't.

597
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 3: Play mooie didn't, Play pool didn't, Play sherman didn't. Play

598
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: SO i never did get to play against them. Guys

599
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: SO i was kind of pissed. Off SO i was,

600
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: like all, right go out here and do my. Thing

601
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: and THEN i started going into these these mini camps or,

602
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: really you know, WHAT i really didn't play three on

603
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: three or two on two or anything like. That they

604
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: just wanted to come in and just look at me

605
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: and see if you, know they throw me, lobs shooting

606
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: off the dribble catching, shooting they saw enough of. Me

607
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: they just wanted to come in and you, know pick my,

608
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: mind talk to me and see WHAT i was. About,

609
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah AND i was supposed to go To Golden State

610
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: open and it was real bad thunderstorm at O'Hare. Airport,

611
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean it. Was it was a typhoon out, there,

612
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: Man and SO i couldn't get out. There SO i

613
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: left about two thirty in the. Morning they finally canceled the,

614
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: flight went back home and everything and the draft that

615
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: it was like That, monday so that was the last

616
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: DAY i get to a, workout and Then thursday was

617
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: the draft went To New york and, uh it was

618
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: crazy BECAUSE i THOUGHT i was gonna go To New

619
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 3: Jersey Nets Mookie blaylock went. THERE i THOUGHT i was

620
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: gonna go To. Minnesota Poor richardson went. THERE i THOUGHT

621
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: i was gonna go To Indiana. Pacers george McLeod went.

622
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: THERE i THOUGHT i was going to go to uh

623
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: Even miami Where Sherman douglas. Went AND i Thought austin

624
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: was really gonna get. Me but they ended up Picking

625
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: Michael smith out of BY. U come to find, out

626
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: Don nelson was calling them telling, them, yo, man you,

627
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: know we we we checked On Tim hardaway's his. Knees,

628
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: man if you're gonna get, him, man you know it

629
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: might be three. Years you know that THAT i we,

630
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: picked that's a lot of. Money, MAN i wouldn't do.

631
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: It he ended up getting. Me he costed me a

632
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: lot of. Money but then, hey, MAN i can respect

633
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: that if they went from the they went for the

634
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: okie Do.

635
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah speaking of, Dying nellson, like he's one of my

636
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: favorite coaches to coach in the league BECAUSE i feel

637
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: like he tries to push the. Bar he tries to

638
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: stretch the rules out as much as he. Can he

639
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: always want to, win but he tried to stretch it

640
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: and just do something that a whole nother.

641
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: League he don't want to do what everybody else. Doing

642
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: he want to bring something.

643
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: New so coming To Golden state And Don nelson being a, coach,

644
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: like how was that for?

645
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: You it was right up my. Alley you you, know running,

646
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: gunning you, know he, like, yo, man we're gonna run

647
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 3: a gun but we're gonna have a method to. It

648
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: we Want we practiced. This we practiced motion, offense we

649
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: practiced back, screens we practiced coming, off and then you

650
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 3: know flair. Screens we practice all. That that's Where Greg

651
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: papovich got all that stuff from because he was with

652
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: us back in ninety two ninety. Three but he always

653
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: thought out the. Box even with The Milwaukee. Bucks he

654
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: always thought out the box back the early, eighties late

655
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: eighties or. Whatever he always you, know With Terry cummings point,

656
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: forward you, Know sydney Mind. Creek you, know he never

657
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: had had a traditional point guard to do a lot

658
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: of things that a traditional point guard would do back

659
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: in those Days Milwaukee. Bucks then he went to The

660
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: Golden State. Warriors he was just. Innovative that's the way

661
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: the game is. TODAY a lot of guys didn't understand

662
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: what he wanted to. Do game is getting to and

663
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: need right. Now back then early, nineties we talked about

664
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: twenty years well eighteen nineteen eighteen year ahead of his,

665
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: time and a lot of a lot of coaches, like,

666
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 3: man you're, crazy but look at it, now look at d'An,

667
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: toni d'An. Tony it was with you, all que and you,

668
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: know he, said, look we Got Steve, nash we got a,

669
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: horse let's, go you gonna. Ride everybody just went and

670
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: everybody played All Steve. Nash he made you, know only

671
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: thing y'all have to, do make make.

672
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: Shots that's all you.

673
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: Do and that's the way he got In. Houston he's

674
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 3: playing six five and under, six you, know maybe six,

675
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: seven you, Know and that's the Why Golden state words

676
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: play at.

677
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: Times you.

678
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 5: Know the second tell me tell me, this how was?

679
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 5: It it was a short two? Years but when when

680
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 5: RUN tmc came together and, You mitch And chris mullin

681
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 5: like three wings all, averaging which y'all was averaging and

682
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 5: literally putting up one hundred and twenty one hundred and

683
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 5: twenty five points in?

684
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 4: Games how how was that? Run and why was it so?

685
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: Short, Well i'm gonna tell you why it was so.

686
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: Short that's why a coach shouldn't be A gm because

687
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: if he gets, mad he. Traded so he was mad

688
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: At mitch for something AND i don't to this THEY

689
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 3: i still don't, know And mitch really don't. Know tell

690
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: you the. Truth but he was upset With mitch for

691
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: something and trading him, away thinking saying that we need

692
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 3: to get. Bigger, yes we did need to get, bigger

693
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 3: but you gotta you can.

694
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: Pull.

695
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 3: You gotta run with this. Court we gotta get another

696
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: piece from somewhere. Else but you can't trade this. Core you,

697
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: know you got to keep that. Core but, Man i'll

698
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 3: tell you this. Man playing With mitch and playing With Chris, Mullen,

699
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: man they make your lives. Easy you know how to,

700
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 3: Run they know how to set the man, up get around,

701
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: picks and knowing how to come off screens and shoot the,

702
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: ball knowing when you behind them use their. Body mitch

703
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: one time he was. Upset he's supposed to have made

704
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: The All star team With chris AND i and they

705
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: gave it To Clyde. Dretson you, Know Clyde drectson was

706
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: good and he was he was balling, in he was

707
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: doing his. Thing but you, Know mitch should have got that.

708
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 3: Edge you should have got that edge and came and

709
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 3: went to The All star. Game, man we played them that. Night,

710
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 3: MAN i tell you this, man the rock he put

711
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: rock on that, man he put that rock he was

712
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: shooting on. Him they was, like what's wrong with? MATCH i, said,

713
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: man he he didn't make The All star. Team he's,

714
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: like he's gonna take it out on him like. THAT

715
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: i said, yes AND i, said there you do it,

716
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: again you, KNOW i mean that's the way it. Was

717
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: plus you know back then the rules was. Different two

718
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: point nine you gotta get. Back two point, nine you

719
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 3: gotta get. Back totally different back. Then if you had

720
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:41,479
Speaker 3: an ice on on.

721
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: That by, yourself, man you by.

722
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: Yourself and if you're gonna go double, team you better

723
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: go Don the rules are totally. Different so back then

724
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: when we was, playing it was a lot of. Fun

725
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: you get the, ball all.

726
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 7: Right, yeah let me do my, thing so that that

727
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 7: was fun.

728
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 3: Part but, yeah, man that them them two. Guys, man

729
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 3: we had a lot of. Fun we all had great. BASKETBALL.

730
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 5: Iq you had to to have three guys averaging that

731
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 5: many points being on a, win like winning all together and.

732
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 4: Successful that's what made it like it was. Crazy, yeah, man.

733
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: We just we just knew how to play with one.

734
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 3: Another and you, know if we're in. Practice we used

735
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 3: to play three on three whole court Against. Vincent asked

736
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: you Against Mario Elliott Rod. Higgins three on three whole.

737
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 3: Court you get a steal at half court and your

738
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: team down there at the other, end up under the.

739
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 3: Basket you couldn't make a left you, know you had

740
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: to go in there and fake like you're gonna make

741
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: a lebt until they get the half. Court you had

742
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 3: to bring it back out and then you had to play.

743
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: Basketball so it wasn't, like you, know an additional you

744
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: steal a ball before. Left now you had to wait

745
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: till your team get across half court and before you could.

746
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: Shoot but you, know back, then you know you had Them,

747
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: lakers and you know they used to be exciting to,

748
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: me The.

749
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: Lakers it was. Magic that was the one that was.

750
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: Exciting but looking.

751
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: At y'all played like all three of, y'all y'all had

752
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: like three players that was so. EXCITED i felt like

753
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: y'all was the most exciting team back. Then just the

754
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: way y'all played and how y'all, Ran it was just so.

755
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: Much you, know this is what they want to see.

756
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: Now you see how it just translated into now getting

757
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: the nickname RUN, tmc like they saying this ship now

758
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: like it's thirty years later IN.

759
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 4: Bnc was like really the king hip hop.

760
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: Like to get name RUN tmc one of the dopest nicknames, Ever,

761
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: like how how did you feel about getting that?

762
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: Nickname, well we went through a little uh.

763
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: TRY i remember, THIS i, remember, YEAH i remember.

764
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: That it was a big ball and they turned these things,

765
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 3: around you, know and all the names we had about three, thousand,

766
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 3: remember so we were just going through like like like

767
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 3: say like we'll stop the film and we'll just go.

768
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: Through and we're like, no, no, no, no, no no,

769
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: no you, know and then we got the five and

770
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 3: then we just, like, okay these five may. Work and

771
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 3: then you, know we saw RUN. Tmc so we put

772
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: RUN gmc right there where we could get. It and

773
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: it took a long, time but once we got to RUN,

774
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: tmc it just fitted. Us you, know t't. Run you,

775
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: know we run up and down the. Court you, know

776
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: we make, plays we make the game. EXCITING i don't

777
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: think it could have been run M c T u

778
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: like so when they said run t M. C when

779
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: when they said RUN, tmc it just kind of.

780
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 4: Called on like just it just rowed.

781
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: Right and once we heard, it we was, like, yeah,

782
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: okay we're gonna go with. That so that's how it

783
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 3: stuck with. Us but we went through a lot of. Names,

784
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 3: man we went through a lot of. Names that was

785
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: that was.

786
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 5: Crazy how was that for you man to be you,

787
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 5: know a kid From Chicago South side and the and

788
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 5: the you, know the, hood AND i hear you while

789
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 5: you on the you, know you on the main stage

790
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 5: THE nba playing with you, know you got a, nickname

791
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 5: y'all a feature like people like want to see y'all

792
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 5: want to see Run TEAM c and you the, point.

793
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 4: You the head of the. Dragon you.

794
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 5: Leave you know What i'm saying that you running the whole?

795
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 5: Thing like how was that for? You being now you didn't?

796
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 5: Explode to you a young superstar in the league and

797
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 5: you button how how was that time for?

798
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: You you know when you when we was growing, up

799
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: we was Watching, Magic we was Watching, Michael we was

800
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 3: Watching Isaiah, thomas and you know that's all they. Featured you,

801
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: know it's Those John stock And Carl, malon that's superstars, tapes, superstars,

802
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: Right so when they feature, you they featured RUN. Tmc

803
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: WHEN i saw myself ON, TV i was like in my,

804
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: Mind i'm, like oh hell damn, right yeah, yeah, yeah

805
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: got about time they seeing what's out? There you know,

806
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 3: That that's HOW i felt when you walk out in

807
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: the arena and you see the fans out there RUN

808
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 3: timc posters or you, know hats or shirts or, whatever,

809
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: like oh, yeah it's about to go down up in

810
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: here wherever we, ad it's gonna it's going. Down you

811
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: know and that you. Feel it's like it's like getting

812
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 3: your new pair of gym, shoes like you, know you,

813
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: KNOW i got some new pair of gym. Shoes you,

814
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: know look at my. Ship you know when when The

815
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 3: nike socks came, out you you had Them nike. Socks,

816
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: man people had the. Night oh looking The nike. Socks

817
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: oh you? Cool that's. Sweet you value. That that's HOW

818
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: i value, it. Man so that's HOW i was WHEN

819
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 3: i saw us being featured AND i saw, us you,

820
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: know people want to watch. Us i'm, like, yeah all, right,

821
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 3: Yeah i'm from the south side of my guys checking me,

822
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 3: out you, know my pinion checking me, out my family checking.

823
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: Out that's the WAY i liked, it you know. That you,

824
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 3: know that's HOW i always envisioned, it and so it

825
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 3: was cool to. ME i enjoyed.

826
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: It So Junis marcellon is, LIKE i didn't know who

827
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: he was until he got to play with.

828
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: Y'all what did you think about once he started.

829
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: Playing we always knew he was stronger than a.

830
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: Motherfucker we always knew that big Old.

831
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 3: We knew he could. Play we knew he'd go left

832
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: because we saw him in The. Olympics all the. Time

833
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 3: and you, know we saw overseas basketball with his team over,

834
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: there so he knew of. Him but when you know

835
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 3: other guy and you see him when he starts coming

836
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: in the gym and, playing and you're, like, Damn i'm

837
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 3: gonna stick. Him you, know the. Bulldoze you, know he just.

838
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: Throng he started making jump shots and you, KNOW i

839
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 3: mean so his, talent, man was was really really. Good

840
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: he called on to the understanding of our language halfway

841
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 3: during the, season so that first half of the season

842
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: was kind of hard for. Him but once he got

843
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 3: caught up with, it oh, man he was cool and

844
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 3: he was gone with. It but he was a great.

845
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: PLAYER i don't know if it was to, her but

846
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: it seemed like he was playing hard as a.

847
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: Motherfucker he played like he was going.

848
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: Hard if we, up if we, up say, twenty he

849
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 3: gonna make sure we go up.

850
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: Third, yeah.

851
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 4: Coming in to get a. Bucket, yeah he was coming

852
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 4: in to get a.

853
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 3: Bucket he wasn't stopping getting. It he was. Aggressive you,

854
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: know some guys like are we up? Twenty you, know, yeah, no, no, no, no.

855
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 4: How to play one way?

856
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: Now?

857
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 3: Yeah if he if he played three minutes he's gonna

858
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 3: try to get ten points in that three minutes For.

859
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: SHURE i remember that he used to play, hard hard.

860
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: Hard, yes in practice he was playing hard Like tim Manh,

861
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: yeah why don't you switch off? Today you KNOW i.

862
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: CAN'T i can't deal with, him you, know just beat

863
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: me up for the last. Week i'm just gonna chill.

864
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 3: OUT i, said, right, Cool, hey.

865
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 5: So tell me, this, right you made three Straight All

866
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 5: star games as a war like when you made your

867
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 5: First All star. GAME i know how we are At

868
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 5: chicagoans AND i know you, Personally so WHAT i want

869
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 5: to know is, like, yeah we, know it's. Cool we

870
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 5: do the whole political thing when you got to do the,

871
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 5: Interview how was it for you the season after you

872
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 5: made your First All star game when you got to

873
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 5: get back to the crib and soak up the crib

874
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 5: and be like walk into the gym to work out

875
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 5: as An All star like you, know Like i'm a,

876
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 5: Ride like how was that for? You BECAUSE i know

877
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 5: how we were in the, gyms AND i know how

878
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 5: you were always in every gym In, chicago and like

879
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 5: now this is your, Arrive Now I'm All, Star Tim,

880
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 5: hardaway was you checking them and telling him how to

881
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 5: call you the right. Way it announced you the right

882
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 5: way when you show, up LIKE i ain't just tell

883
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 5: them no more like this is the all stuff like.

884
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 5: That how was your swag when you got back to

885
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 5: the city the season after your First All, Star that's

886
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 5: WHAT i want to.

887
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: Hear, yeah my swag was unbelievad.

888
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: That thousand, trillion, right it.

889
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: Was it was you know that number that you can't say,

890
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: it you.

891
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 4: Know, yeah was like infinity and.

892
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 3: Beyond, yeah that that's how My, yeah getting back to the,

893
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 3: crib just walking around you, know you know you you,

894
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 3: yeah you know you really start like, yeah, yeah, yeah

895
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: that's how it was, now no question. No but but

896
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: you know, WHAT i was still humble to my. People,

897
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 3: yeah you, KNOW i go and hoop with. Them you,

898
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: KNOW i will still go, out hang, out go club with.

899
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: Him my wife AND. I we were still, Cool we

900
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: were still. Respectable we wasn't you, know no assholes or

901
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: anything like, that because you, know if you be an

902
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: asshole In, chicago they will come and get.

903
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: Quickly well, yeah tap you on the ass to make

904
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: sure you hum.

905
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: Yourself, yeah, yeah they were.

906
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: Humble you if.

907
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: You're not humbling up straight up SO i knew.

908
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: WHERE i came, FROM i knew how to, act AND

909
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 3: i knew WHAT i need to. Do but, yeah you,

910
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: know just walking, around they knew my swag was on

911
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 3: that way out.

912
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 5: There, listen. LISTEN i had to ask BECAUSE i, KNOW

913
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 5: i know how it. WAS i never even made it all.

914
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 5: STAR i just know WHEN i felt like WHEN i

915
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 5: made When i'm here, now Like i'm, starting Like i'm

916
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 5: out here giving people to, business some afriaging seventeen, eighteen

917
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 5: And i'm back at the back at the hoops in the.

918
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 4: Gym i'm walking around here like who won't?

919
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 5: It like what's? Up Like i'm one of? Them like

920
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 5: everybody know it, Now like whether y'all want.

921
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: TO i. Ain't we could get out here and get to.

922
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 5: It i'm about to show you like that was like

923
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 5: just like you, said swag was up just walking.

924
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 4: Around he had a little higher, chest a little more poked.

925
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 4: Out like, wait somebody said. Something you ain't say nothing.

926
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: You like exactly, Exactly so you put them yours in

927
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: And Golden state and you get traded To, miami And

928
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: miami when you get, traded you was the beginning of

929
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: them trying to change a culture In miami to a

930
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: championship and a winning. Culture, like how was that to

931
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: go to League Olden? State now you're a, veteran you

932
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: done been.

933
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 4: To All Star.

934
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: Games you know you can lead AN nba, team no

935
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: matter what team it. Is how was that to go

936
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: To miami and just have a start over in just

937
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: a new beginning down?

938
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 4: There?

939
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: Man it was, Great it was. Great you, know you

940
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: got a center In alonzo Morning Manash, Burned Dan, Marley Sean.

941
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: Marley already, there, Yeah Sean. Leonard you.

942
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: Know so so we had we had a nice nucleus.

943
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 3: Man we had a very nice nucleus. Man and then you,

944
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: know just cap it off With Pat, rally just his,

945
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: preparedness how he go about, things how he portrayed us

946
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 3: to go about. Things all about. Business you, know after,

947
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: it you, know have. Fun but when you're on this,

948
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 3: court it's all about. Business and it was, fun. Man you,

949
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 3: know three, hours you, know two and a half, hours three.

950
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: Hours most of the hours was a lot of. Talking you,

951
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: know you in the gym a lot because he's talking

952
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 3: and teaching and make you understand what he wants and

953
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 3: how he wants. It but when you're going through them,

954
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 3: drills and going through. Everything you just gotta go. Hard

955
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: and another thing when you go through them drills and

956
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 3: you doing it for two and a half hours for you,

957
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: know eight days, straight nine days. Straight when you in

958
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: the game or if you just, playing pick up your,

959
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 3: body just do that wherever the. BALL i, mean that's

960
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 3: the way it, is and that's that's it's that way, routine, routine,

961
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 3: routine and that's the WAY i buy. Flowed so we

962
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 3: had a great, TIME i KNOW i. DID i enjoyed.

963
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: IT i wanted to get traded there BECAUSE i, SAID

964
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: i told, SO i, said you, Know Pat rowley's recorded

965
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 3: is in jet field not making playoffs, again so if

966
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: he missed, this it's gonna mess up as a playoff.

967
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: Record so he told him, that AND i guess he was,

968
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 3: like all, right, cool let me let me pull this.

969
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 3: Plug and we got. There, Me Walt, Williams Chris. Gatling you,

970
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 3: know we just changed the culture just to those what

971
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 3: twenty five, games, man we was eighteen games, out, yeah

972
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 3: eighteen games, out and we and we changed that and

973
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 3: made that city believed right then that and it went from,

974
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 3: that you, know ninety, six From february ninety six all

975
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 3: the way up into right, now that's where it's.

976
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 5: Been would you considered what you considered ninety seven like

977
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 5: your best years a? Pro he was first Team ALL

978
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 5: nba in ninety, Seven, like that's that's in the fire

979
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 5: in the middle of it right, there like first.

980
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: Team that's that's a you a boy obviously first.

981
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 3: Team, yes so, yeah, YEAH i would consider that my

982
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 3: best year of my professional.

983
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 4: Career.

984
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 2: Yes on that, team you had a Young jamal Mass.

985
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: Burn Jamal massburn is one of them folks that WHEN

986
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: i got to the, league he busts my motherfucker As

987
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: it's just like he wasn't the, fast he didn't jump

988
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: higher than, me he wasn't aflant. Talk he talked say, nothing.

989
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: Y'all it's My he knew how to play the. Game

990
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: you know how to play that me and post he's

991
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: a bucket. Gither you had a Young jamal Mass, Burn

992
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: you know What i'm, Saying, like how was that playing

993
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: With Jamal mashburn a young?

994
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: Guy you?

995
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 3: KNOW i think that and it is it was my.

996
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 3: FAULT i think that we didn't Use Jamal mashburn and

997
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 3: his talents the way we should have used. To we

998
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 3: should have had them posting up. More we should have

999
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 3: had him isolated more little bit of his, talents AND

1000
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 3: i think that we didn't do. It every TIME i

1001
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 3: think back on you, know you think back how you

1002
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 3: should have done, it but you get caught up in

1003
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 3: the moment where the coach is, coaching and you know

1004
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 3: you're trying to win and you're trying to tweet to tweet,

1005
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 3: that but you're not really seeing what he can do

1006
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: and how he could really help your. Team give him

1007
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: him the, ball to give him the isolations and making,

1008
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 3: them you, know take advantage of his his. Mismatches and

1009
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: because the guy HE i, mean he was, very very

1010
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 3: very talented. Man like you, said he gives you all

1011
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 3: the type of ways three.

1012
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 4: Points we, know we know the.

1013
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 3: Dude the dude, man he had superior, talent AND i

1014
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 3: just think we didn't use it the way we should

1015
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 3: have used.

1016
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 5: It, yeah they tell me, this like you know a

1017
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 5: lot of guys being all. Stars you get, award you get,

1018
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 5: this you get, that you got your jersey. Retired it's

1019
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 5: not just as you got your jersey, retired but it's

1020
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 5: the place that you got to retire and who you

1021
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 5: gotta retire. By like all of those things are like

1022
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 5: different standards in different levels because number one is. Not

1023
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 5: it's only so many of them over there In miami

1024
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 5: that has it, done period and the great we all

1025
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 5: know the history and.

1026
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 4: Everything but then to get it.

1027
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 5: Done, now you know what you have to like those

1028
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 5: that know know what it takes so for you to

1029
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 5: have your.

1030
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 4: Jersey And i've been.

1031
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 5: THERE i got a chance to walk in there with

1032
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 5: him as an opposing team when he coaching The, pistons

1033
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 5: and he got the boy telling Me Vin jennis and

1034
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 5: there like, hey, hey, hey, y'all y'all go, ahead look

1035
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 5: up that and now like, that, yeah that that's.

1036
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 7: Me like all, right, y'all you got you got got

1037
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 7: his sunglasses on hearing this, Slag he's, like, yeah The,

1038
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 7: miami The miami, heat the ninety six, degrees is feeling.

1039
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 5: Them he's feeling real. Good got his you Know's melani.

1040
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 5: Popping he, like, yo, y'all, boy look up. That that's

1041
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 5: what y'all woul. Tonight that's gonna have the lights on that.

1042
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 5: Tonight that's me up. THERE i heard, that and you,

1043
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 5: know so for LIKE i know in that, sense but

1044
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 5: like what do tell the people what that means to?

1045
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 5: You to like be rewarded in that type of way

1046
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 5: for them to put your name and your, number but

1047
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 5: then nobody ever gonna wear it.

1048
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 4: Again what does that mean to?

1049
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 3: You, well you, know just like you, said you, know,

1050
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: uh blood sweat. Tears from day, ONE i made a commitment.

1051
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 3: THERE i Told zoe from day, ONE i, said if

1052
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 3: you get me traded, here we're gonna make the. Playoffs you,

1053
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 3: KNOW i was true to my. Word AND i knew

1054
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: what they wanted and what they expected out of, me

1055
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: AND i know WHAT i expected out of. THEM i

1056
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: heard a lot of things About Pat rowley that is

1057
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: practices was you, know tenacious and crazy and gonna take

1058
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 3: years off your. Body but you know WHAT i tell you, this,

1059
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 3: MAN i wasn't changing for the.

1060
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 4: World.

1061
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 3: MAN i had a great time, there you, know With,

1062
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 3: pat learning a lot about, basketball but a lot about

1063
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 3: business of, basketball understanding you, know how to keep your

1064
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 3: body in shape when it was time to. PLAY i

1065
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 3: just love to play, basketball so practice wasn't difficult for.

1066
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 3: ME i love to go out there and just, practice

1067
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: get my, team makes, better get myself. Better and it

1068
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 3: was just about making a commitment to win, there you,

1069
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 3: know making a commitment to have basketball successful in a

1070
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 3: football and soccer. State, Okay florida is football. State florida

1071
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 3: is a soccer state and a baseball. State all, Right

1072
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 3: so to have basketball as they first loved was very

1073
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 3: very very very, difficult and we did. That we did,

1074
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 3: it and it started in ninety, six ninety. Seven and

1075
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 3: every time you walk, in you, know Around, miami people

1076
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 3: just say thank, you you, know thank you for you,

1077
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: know being who you. Are thank you for saying hello

1078
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: to my. Son you know that meant a lot to.

1079
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 3: Them thank, you thank, you thank you for. Whatever that's

1080
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 3: where the pride come. From you, know that's where the

1081
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 3: joy come. From that's where you feel that you have

1082
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 3: done something for the community and the, city where people

1083
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 3: say thank you WHEN i go in, THERE i see

1084
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 3: my jersey up. There it's about all the, blood, sweat,

1085
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 3: Tears i've been through, practices, playoffs coming back from, injuries

1086
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 3: listening to, coaches talking to, coaches have an argument with,

1087
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: coaches all that, stuff you, Know but, yeah, man it

1088
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 3: is that's what it comes. From and every TIME i

1089
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 3: look at, it it's.

1090
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: Great the two Thousand olympic, team you, know you get

1091
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: chose to play on the liberty team and you get

1092
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: chosen to play on liberty team with your. Teammate how

1093
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: is that experience to win the gold medal and just

1094
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: go through their whole process with THE usa.

1095
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: Team, man it's. Great you.

1096
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 3: Know once they started having the pros go there in ninety,

1097
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: TWO i think every pro wanted to be on The olympic.

1098
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: Teams so for, everybody, everybody every if you need, somebody you,

1099
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: KNOW i got, You.

1100
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly everybody wanted to be on the limp. Team being,

1101
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 3: there having on THAT usa when you put on THAT usa, jersey,

1102
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 3: man it's like another. Level you feel a different. Way

1103
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 3: it's not about you. Anymore it's about your. Country it's

1104
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 3: about your. Country. Man and those guys that was on that,

1105
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: team we became. Family we became as. One everything was

1106
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 3: checked at the, door all your, attitude all your. Whatever

1107
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 3: you just check that at the door and come in

1108
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: here and let's play and let's win the goal for

1109
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 3: our country and go back home. Victorious it was, great.

1110
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: Man you know when it was With, zoe it was.

1111
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 3: GREAT i Knew Kevin garnett because you, know his mom

1112
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 3: is From. Chicago he grew up In South. Carolina he came,

1113
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 3: back you, Know, chicago played At Farraga Vince carter with

1114
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 3: the crazy, dunk and then Got Ray allen of, Course

1115
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 3: Jason kidd and and you Know Steve Smith. City we

1116
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 3: just used to play one on one back, there just

1117
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 3: try to get. Loose we was the oldest statements on the.

1118
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 3: TEAM i Mean ben v you know mcdyce got to

1119
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 3: rebound and put it back up to save win for.

1120
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 3: Us we all had a great. Time. Man it was about,

1121
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 3: family but it was about one thing winning to go

1122
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 3: for your country, Man so it was it was a great.

1123
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 3: Opportunity but you know it took. Us we had to

1124
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 3: go to the qualifying round to win In Puerto rico

1125
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 3: the year before that didn't go To. Australia it was

1126
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 3: a two year, commitment so you know it was.

1127
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: Special it was how Beautiful. Australia that's on my bucket.

1128
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: LIST i want To.

1129
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 3: Melbourn we were In, sydney But, Melbourn melbourn is the

1130
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 3: place man out. There, uh that's where you need to get, to,

1131
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 3: man it's it's.

1132
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: Beautiful we had the opportunity to do a commercial With.

1133
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: Spike you had the opportunity to do a person spikely

1134
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: with The earth. Raids how was that? Experience and then

1135
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: to get the opportunity to have your own shoe coming

1136
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: from where you come, From, like how is?

1137
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 3: That, Man i'm gonna telling you, This spike.

1138
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: Different he, real he's.

1139
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 3: DIFFERENT i love working with. Him he stopped, me he, Said, Yo,

1140
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 3: Tim Tim, Tim he, Said, yo calm, down don't be,

1141
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 3: nervous just be. Cool just think of this as this

1142
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 3: is your own. Ram this is your, ship all. Right

1143
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 3: you want us commercial for, you this is your. Shit

1144
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 3: so act how you would act in the, playgrounds playing.

1145
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 3: Basketball act the way you, do how you out, there you,

1146
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 3: know being in your home At, chicago act the way you.

1147
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: Act when he said that to, me and he's, Like

1148
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: i'm for, real act the way you. Act and it

1149
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 3: went from, there, man it went from, there and it

1150
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 3: made the whole commercial. Different it made it made it,

1151
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 3: like you, know LIKE i was in control of everything

1152
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 3: AND i felt great about. It but, man having your own, shoe, man,

1153
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 3: man you, Know and then getting back To, Spike spike

1154
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: is a great. Director he's a great guy AND i

1155
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 3: love him. Death hopefully he'll get back and get his.

1156
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 3: Seats but having your own, shoe, man and you watching

1157
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: you see people wearing your. SHOE i, know how might.

1158
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 4: You?

1159
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 3: KNOW i know when you see people in your, ship you're,

1160
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 3: like oh, ship yeah right, There, like oh tell me.

1161
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: Nothing they tell me a goddamn.

1162
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: Thing can tell me. Nothing you, know it just takes one.

1163
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: Person it just takes one one slipper on and that's you.

1164
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 3: Know Outside you're, like way.

1165
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: The boys look?

1166
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 3: Clean, yeah, yeah no, Question.

1167
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: Definitely blessing, man definitely blessed the.

1168
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 3: Question it is no question your.

1169
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: Son play now to have your boy fall in love

1170
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: with the same basketball you fell in love with and

1171
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: achieve everything he wanted to achieve in this, game to

1172
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: get to the level that his pops was. Playing, like

1173
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: how do you feel about seeing your boy out, there

1174
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: especially shooting that jumping deep like highest pops, proud proud.

1175
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 3: As he should. Be, yes very, proud very. Proud my

1176
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 3: chest stuck to stick out all the. Time, Man i'm very.

1177
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 3: Proud i'm very happy for. Him But i'm gonna tell you.

1178
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 3: This you, know when we're talking about patience and, virtue you,

1179
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 3: know he wanted to come out after his sophomore year.

1180
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: AND i was, like, no, no, no you're not. Ready

1181
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: he was, like come, on, Dad i'm.

1182
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 3: READY i, said, look, son you, know you get to

1183
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 3: THE G, league they'll forget about. You yeah about you

1184
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 3: got you gotta have something, special you. Know AND i told,

1185
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 3: HIM i, said you. Don't you don't want to go

1186
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 3: to THE Gm league and then up and, down up

1187
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 3: and down and doing. THIS i, said, look, man you

1188
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 3: need to go to school one more. Year you need

1189
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 3: to go to school one more. Year they went to

1190
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 3: the final. Four they lost in the finals To louisville

1191
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 3: and he, Said i'm coming out. THERE i, say, yeah

1192
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 3: you're ready, now you. Know so that's when you as a,

1193
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 3: FATHER i knew that he wasn't, ready but it hurt

1194
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 3: me to tell him. That but he needs to hear the.

1195
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 3: Truth WHEN i, WENT i almost told the house. APART

1196
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 3: i almost told the family. Apart because when he was

1197
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 3: in high, SCHOOL i always was On, tim you need

1198
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 3: to do, this you need to do. This BUT i

1199
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 3: wanted him to play like, me and instead of him

1200
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 3: learned the game himself and the way he knows how to,

1201
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 3: PLAY i was like trying him to groom him like.

1202
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: Me AND i saw.

1203
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 3: It one day he was walking PAST i, said come,

1204
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 3: on come, on watch the game with. Me he's, like,

1205
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 3: No i'm, GONE i don't want to. Watch and my

1206
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 3: wife was telling.

1207
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 2: Me she was, like, yeah you, know.

1208
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 3: You're always getting on, him you're always really culling, him

1209
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 3: and you're not you, know you're not for, him and

1210
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 3: that's the way he. Seems AND i listened to her

1211
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 3: AND i was, like you know, what she's, Right she's.

1212
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 3: Right AND i, said you, KNOW i told, HIM i,

1213
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 3: Said i'm, Sorry i'm gonna take a step back. Clothes

1214
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 3: i'm gonna let you come to me whenever you need.

1215
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 3: Me i'm not gonna say nothing bad about your. Games

1216
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 3: even if you upset about don't worry about. It we

1217
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 3: get him next. Time just learn from.

1218
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:50,439
Speaker 2: It and that's.

1219
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 3: It that's. All and as soon AS i did, that

1220
01:01:54,960 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 3: they THOUGHT i wasn't gonna Do he THOUGHT i wasn't

1221
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 3: gonna do.

1222
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 2: It BUT i did.

1223
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 3: It it took a lot of biting your, TONGUE. Q

1224
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 3: it took a. LOT i, MEAN i was in there some.

1225
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 2: Time we ain't grow, up but you, know we ain't

1226
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 2: grow up like that like that kids kind of like

1227
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 2: we gotta kind of stall it. Back Just i'm, like,

1228
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 2: MAN i love you. FOREVER i had to bring.

1229
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 3: MYSELF i had to reel myself. IN i reeled myself,

1230
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 3: in and from that point, on, man everything has been. Beautiful.

1231
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 3: Man and that's WHY i tell, parents don't rush your.

1232
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 3: Kids don't rush. Them let him experience what he needs to.

1233
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 3: Experience let him learn the way he needs to learn

1234
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 3: him go out there and play the way he needs to,

1235
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 3: play and let him understand the game where he needs

1236
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 3: to understand the. Game but don't push. Him the more

1237
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 3: you push, him the more he's trying to please you

1238
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 3: and not play for. Himself and that's WHY i tell these,

1239
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 3: players just step, back let them. Play let them be,

1240
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 3: kids because first they gotta be. Kids you, know they

1241
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 3: still watching. Cartoons they not grown, men and you don't

1242
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 3: want them to be grown man and grown. Women. Kids

1243
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 3: let them have, fun let them enjoy, themselves and then

1244
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 3: you know everything to be all. Right that's why tell parents, today.

1245
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: Did you ever take them back to the crib and

1246
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: try to get something that that shottown any guys about to.

1247
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 5: SAYING i can remember him bringing him to hoops and

1248
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 5: having him at the gym with us when we were

1249
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 5: there working out in the. SUMMER i can literally remember,

1250
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 5: it like, YESTERDAY i got the homies and he got

1251
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 5: his little gym. Back he, quiet you could tell you

1252
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 5: kind of nervous to be. Around and this after we

1253
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 5: didne got. Through they the homies bringing him up to the,

1254
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 5: court and Now tim about to like Let tim put

1255
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 5: him through a work out and get through some. Stuff

1256
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 5: this like he like gotta be like ten, eleven twelve years,

1257
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 5: old real little bit just coming. Up And i'm LIKE

1258
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 5: i remember seeing, that like that's. Dope tim got his,

1259
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 5: son That's Tim. Jr like and then to SEE i

1260
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 5: remember BECAUSE i remember WHEN i heard that he got.

1261
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 5: Good this was before he went to college. Anything this

1262
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 5: was when D wade. D wright was living you, know

1263
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 5: they living in Playing, miami and they taught me, like,

1264
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 5: Man tim's son.

1265
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 4: Nice i'm like for real cause they was LIKE i

1266
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 4: think it was like him and yeah he. Went he

1267
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 4: played For pistons for a. While Brendan.

1268
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 5: Brenda, Knight Brandon, knight they was having wards or. Whatever

1269
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 5: they were like the two top. Guys And i'm, like, oh, okay,

1270
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 5: Look i'm Like tim hallawait you your? Boy that was

1271
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 5: like WHEN i, first like in, HINDSIGHT i, THOUGHT i was,

1272
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 5: Like i'm like that's. Dope BUT i can Remember tim

1273
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 5: really working with him and having him around it like

1274
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 5: he was up at hoops, boy when you know that

1275
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 5: was when it was bump up. There he round really

1276
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 5: really getting to just be in the gym and see

1277
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 5: like crazy stuff going on on the. Regular AND i

1278
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 5: was like all of that stuff really paid off when

1279
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 5: like that's like a cheat code for a, kid for

1280
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 5: a kid to be able to get the sick court,

1281
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 5: side to get to, listen to get the, seed to

1282
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 5: get the come in and just rub up against some of,

1283
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 5: that unless some of that get up on. Him it's

1284
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 5: like that's that's, different, bro that's a that's a different

1285
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 5: level just to be exposed.

1286
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: To, yeah and they say like he getting now seeing

1287
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: him now watching them, play it seemed like he's getting

1288
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: better and.

1289
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 2: Better he knowed what it, is he's prepared For he's

1290
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: prepared for.

1291
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 5: It so let me let me ask you, this, Right

1292
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 5: SO i got to watch you Bring Timmy junr to

1293
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 5: the gym and get him. Right so you, SEE i

1294
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,919
Speaker 5: got two little baby beast over there THAT i got

1295
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 5: one day HOPEFULLY i get a chance to. GET i

1296
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 5: need to know about you And timmy's one on. Ones

1297
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 5: when did they? Stop did he beat? You when did?

1298
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 5: They when did you tell him NOW i ain't playing you, know,

1299
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 5: Mo it wasn't because he started beating?

1300
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 4: You and how how was?

1301
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 5: This BECAUSE i need to find out where my temperature

1302
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 5: gonna be at when it comes my time when the.

1303
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,439
Speaker 4: Lady laid, down like DO i let him get close

1304
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 4: to beating? Me or do he beat?

1305
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 3: Me?

1306
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 4: ADD i can just check him and say no more?

1307
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 4: Games so how we do? This how was? Y'all one on?

1308
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 2: One?

1309
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 3: Well you, KNOW i wan on one was all right

1310
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 3: until he got into.

1311
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: College now six five, tall.

1312
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 3: And were in the gym playing one on, one you,

1313
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 3: know going back and. Forth he crossed me. Over but

1314
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 3: you know it wasn't a crossover.

1315
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 2: That that really got.

1316
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 3: Me it WAS i, like, oh, ship he's about to.

1317
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 2: Dump, no.

1318
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 3: He's not gonna. Dump he's not gonna dump in front

1319
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 3: of company on that, company not in front of. Company. No,

1320
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 3: No so you know how you stopped AND i turned

1321
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 3: all my money AND i raised AND i, fouled AND i,

1322
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,479
Speaker 3: said you know that this would Be we're not gonna

1323
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 3: play no. More he's LIKE i, said, SEE i could

1324
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 3: have really hurt. YOU i took easy. ON i could

1325
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:57,959
Speaker 3: have really really hurt. You you Know Dennis.

1326
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 5: Rode the Next heat series five.

1327
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 3: Series you, Know CHARLES i, SAID i, said you, know,

1328
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 3: MAN i, said, NO i am.

1329
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 4: Not, no you're not.

1330
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 3: First you're not dunking. On he's like, That it wasn't

1331
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 3: gonna be on. You, yes If i'm playing and we're

1332
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 3: playing on, one you dunk, it that's a dunk. On

1333
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 3: SO i, said SO i stopped. That, so, yeah he.

1334
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 3: Won that's when he. Won and that's WHEN i stopped. Playing,

1335
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 3: yeah that's that's but he but he found himself In.

1336
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: Cope found himself in Cop uh when you came, up

1337
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: who's the guys that you looked at that you kind

1338
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: of was, LIKE i want to be like, THEM i

1339
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: want to pattent my game after, them OR i want

1340
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: to take some.

1341
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 2: Of the moves that they. Do who's the guys that

1342
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 2: kind of molded you that you was looking at from

1343
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: afar to be?

1344
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 3: Like, well WHEN i was in grammar, School Isaiah thomas

1345
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 3: was playing in a high school basketball game AND i

1346
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 3: didn't Know. Isaiah my coach, said, hey, Man i'm gonna

1347
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 3: take you out of school tomorrow about lunchtime we go

1348
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 3: watch somebody. Play SO i get, there he, SAID i

1349
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 3: want you to check out number eleven and. White he,

1350
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 3: said he reminds me of you how you. Play And

1351
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 3: i'm in grammar. School he, said, well you got the

1352
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 3: potential to be that. Way So i'm in grammar. School

1353
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 3: i'm watching him. Play i'm, LIKE i played like. Him you're, like,

1354
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 3: yeah you got you got. Potential you play like. HIM i,

1355
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 3: said that's a BAD mf. There that's a bad MTh.

1356
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 3: There and so from that time, ON i portrayed my

1357
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 3: game After Isaiah. THOMAS i watched him throughout his career

1358
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 3: At indiana through THE nba UNTIL i got to, them

1359
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 3: and that was my idol on the basketball court playing

1360
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 3: you just watching somebody to. Portray and ONCE i got

1361
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 3: there AND i played against, him, man, man that's just.

1362
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 2: Amazing it was just.

1363
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 8: Killing.

1364
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 3: MAN i just can't.

1365
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 2: Describe.

1366
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 3: Man at, FIRST i started, shaking and then once the

1367
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:04,560
Speaker 3: game started, going you, know you started getting alright with,

1368
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 3: it and THEN i was, okay and THEN i started

1369
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 3: doing my. Thing but it took me a while because my,

1370
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 3: idol this this guy THAT i portrayed my game, after

1371
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 3: And i'm playing against him in AN nba. Game, YEAH

1372
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 3: i mean, Like i'm, like, oh you, know so so

1373
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 3: it took me a. While it took me a quarter

1374
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 3: to get my mind together and get my parents. Together

1375
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 3: but ONCE i, DID i was all good and we you,

1376
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 3: know we won the, game and uh he was like

1377
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 3: a good, game and you, know we. Talked we've been

1378
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 3: talking ever.

1379
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 2: Since that's what's. Up that's.

1380
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: Dope so out of all the teams you don't play

1381
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: for your whole, career if you had to pick five

1382
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 1: to play, with who would beat on?

1383
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 4: Five?

1384
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 3: Well Chris mullen And Mitch richmond of, Course.

1385
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 1: Uh.

1386
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 3: ZOE i didn't get to play with whatever BECAUSE i

1387
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 3: was hurt that. Year but IF i, DID i pick.

1388
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 3: Him BUT i mean you said AS i played with,

1389
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 3: man you, KNOW i mean he was on my. Team

1390
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,560
Speaker 3: SO i got. It i'm won't Take Chris webber.

1391
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 4: Tell me tell me this? Right who who?

1392
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 3: You?

1393
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 5: You you the original Crossover. King SO i want to

1394
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 5: hear who are your top three or four guys in the?

1395
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 5: League ball handling?

1396
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 3: Wise now you Know Carrie, irvings no, question.

1397
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 4: Bus driver take everybody to?

1398
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 3: School, Yeah Kimba, walker no. Question Kim oh my.

1399
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 4: God you.

1400
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 3: Know And i'm gonna tell you, this man he's getting.

1401
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 3: Older but that motherfucker still.

1402
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 2: Play Chris Paul, Yeah chris, definitely he'd be out.

1403
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 3: There he Got oh my, GOD i mean he. GOT

1404
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 3: i mean, yeah he thirty. Something but, yeah, People i'd

1405
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 3: be LIKE i, said y'all better watch out now you're

1406
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 3: gonna have your ankle. Hurt and THEN i, Say Steph curry,

1407
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 3: hurry nice handles, too, man you gotta watch, out make

1408
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 3: you look real real.

1409
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 2: Selling yeah and. Launch.

1410
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah but but those four right, there if you're not

1411
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 3: careful With kimber And, kyrie they would really hurt. You

1412
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 3: you gotta be very careful with, them you. Know, SO

1413
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,600
Speaker 3: i mean you gotta you gotta have your ankles tighten,

1414
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 3: up you gotta have your knees all. Up you gotta

1415
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,560
Speaker 3: be ready to move your body because they're gonna have

1416
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 3: you shifting. Everywhere BUT i love watching For Chris Paul.

1417
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 3: Man he WHO i still he?

1418
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: Got we do to stay on here called start bench,

1419
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: cut trying to get you in. Trouble start bench, Cut Isaiah,

1420
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 1: Thomas Magic, Johnson.

1421
01:11:52,560 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 9: And you're trying to get you in trouble with this.

1422
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 9: One you gotta start bench. Cut when what it will be.

1423
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 3: Anybody pass on this or they say they don't say.

1424
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 3: Nothing know they.

1425
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 4: Nobody as it's all. Opinionated, man it's just who you.

1426
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 2: Know you know you're trying to get you trying to

1427
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 2: get me hurt at the next.

1428
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 4: START i heard what you.

1429
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 3: Said i'm gonna start. Cool, Oh i'm gonna start big.

1430
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 3: Old i'm gonna bench.

1431
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 8: That you're gonna cut shut, down manet me look at

1432
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 8: the big Old look, man do you see the big?

1433
01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 3: Old?

1434
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 4: YEAH i.

1435
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:04,719
Speaker 2: Do that's WHY i. ADDED i, MEAN i mean.

1436
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 3: When you see his, status you be like it's nothing

1437
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 3: else to.

1438
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 2: Say, yeah, YEAH i love SEE i love, it dag you, know,

1439
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 2: yeah no feeling all the old they're all the, Greatest

1440
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 2: yes they. Are this is WHAT i want to.

1441
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 5: Know because we know we're From. SHOTTOWN i know we

1442
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 5: probably did some similar. Things like when you started getting the,

1443
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 5: money when you made it to the, league you got that.

1444
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 5: Check what did tim hard away from the gardens go?

1445
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 4: Get what did you go get?

1446
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 5: It you look back on thatw that you're, like that

1447
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 5: was probably that was a young. Move BUT i enjoyed

1448
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 5: the hell out of it WHEN i did, it like

1449
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 5: cause we all did.

1450
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 4: That i'm. ATTIRED i had a, chain a big. Chain.

1451
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 5: Boy you, know we got drafted a nice. AGE i

1452
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 5: had everything but My Social security on my. Chain, BOY

1453
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 5: i ain't had no. ADDRESSES i tried to put everything

1454
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 5: on THAT Q, regison a, hoop a number Of jersey

1455
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 5: or JUST i what Did timmy?

1456
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 2: Do this is WHAT i, did.

1457
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 3: MAN i took care of my. Mom that's the first

1458
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 3: THING i wanted TO i want to make sure she

1459
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 3: was taking care of she didn't have nothing else to worry.

1460
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 3: About made sure that everything was all right for. Her

1461
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 3: then WHAT i got? Me, yeah everybody was, like, no, no,

1462
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 3: no you know that was too much. MONEY i wouldn't

1463
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 3: get me A z twenty. Eight it was A D

1464
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 3: SIGN z twenty eight twin turbo, white, yeah white with black,

1465
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 3: seats AND i had the white rims on this.

1466
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 2: Stuff that's WHAT I that's WHAT i.

1467
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 3: Got but it's, like if we come, down where we're

1468
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 3: gonna do? THAT i, said, WELL i don't, know BUT i.

1469
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 2: Want this right, here this for, me this for, me right,

1470
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 2: here this with, me this with. Me we'll run a

1471
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 2: minute van when y'all come.

1472
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 4: Down but this up exactly.

1473
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 3: Y'all y'all gonna have to rim one because back THEN

1474
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 3: i was just making one hundred thousand dollars and you,

1475
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 3: know and the tests In california is.

1476
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: Dead right, right, know they hear you over the, head,

1477
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 2: know they hear you old the.

1478
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 1: Head when me AND q got to the, league we

1479
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: went TO la and they was had us on a

1480
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 1: bunch of LIKE tv, shows movies and. Stuff every TIME

1481
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,560
Speaker 1: i used to come home for, SCHOOL i used to

1482
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 1: Watch hanging With Mister.

1483
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 2: Cooper that was like one of my.

1484
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 1: Shows you was On hanging With Mister, Cooper like what

1485
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: was the experience life to be?

1486
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 2: On you KNOW tv show that all of us.

1487
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 4: Watching.

1488
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 3: Fun. Fun we Knew mike up and you know he's

1489
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 3: from The. Bear, yeah so we got to hang out

1490
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 3: with him and stuff like. That he'd be at the.

1491
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 3: Game at the end of the, game he'd be back

1492
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 3: there kicking with. Us we'd be. Talking he always, joking always.

1493
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 3: Joking so he asked the people for The Golden State

1494
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 3: warris if it would be cool to bring a crew

1495
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 3: up in there watch a, game you, know and interact

1496
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 3: with us all. This so they, said, sure why, Not

1497
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 3: and so that's how it, happened, man and we went

1498
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 3: on and it was. Fun it's. Different it's, different you

1499
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 3: know when you when that's your first time being on

1500
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 3: film and you know ON tv or, whatever it's. Different

1501
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 3: but once you get used to, it you, know you

1502
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 3: more and more and more that you're on, there you

1503
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 3: get used to. It but, yeah, man it was different Than.

1504
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 3: Mike we're still. Cool we all still. Cool we, all

1505
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 3: especially WHEN i go to L a hang out With

1506
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 3: mintion and. Stuff we're kicking With mike and and we

1507
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 3: have some. Fun but, yeah, man it was back, then Mister,

1508
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 3: king Mister, cooper that was the.

1509
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 2: Show that was the, show that was my.

1510
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 1: Show hangs cooler in the, backyard shooting on the gold.

1511
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 4: On the garage all the.

1512
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 2: Time, yeah, yeah that was my show right.

1513
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 5: There tell me about you, know we both had the

1514
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 5: pleasure of getting a chance to you, know work for

1515
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 5: staying with The. Pistons you you met him playing In

1516
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 5: miami when he got to be your coach and was

1517
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 5: your assistant coach and stuff like. That just tell me

1518
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 5: about your relationship with coach and what Coach dan's relationship

1519
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 5: means to.

1520
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 3: You, man it was rocky at first WHEN i first

1521
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 3: got there because you, know he was, playing you, know

1522
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 3: working out For sean and. Everything so WHEN i first got,

1523
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 3: there you lose a, game and this was my last

1524
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 3: time losing, too so shooting game one on, one, game

1525
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 3: three on three game or. Whatever so whoever won the

1526
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 3: other two teams had to. Run so it was like,

1527
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 3: guards you, know out at ten, first you out of, eight, ten,

1528
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,839
Speaker 3: twelve and then you had to run the whole. Seventeen

1529
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 3: so at this particular, time it was like whoever was

1530
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 3: out at ten, first then, twelve then, fourteen then you

1531
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 3: had to run the rest of. Seventeen so me and

1532
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 3: V sean came.

1533
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 4: In as a.

1534
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 3: Tie he was, like, hi, Tie, tim you keep running

1535
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 3: because he knew he knew For. SEAN i was, like, no, no,

1536
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 3: no and THEN i, said, non, non nons. Man in THE,

1537
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 3: nba the tie always go to the. Veteran he, was you're,

1538
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 3: right If, sean let's. Go and that's when men stand

1539
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 3: built up a relationship right then and, there you, know

1540
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 3: it just flourished right in.

1541
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 7: There you.

1542
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:19,560
Speaker 3: Know he was, like all, Right, tim we got to

1543
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 3: run his. Place you, Know pat want us to do,

1544
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 3: this do. That so we go down, HERE i get

1545
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 3: the guys together and we run play and do this

1546
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 3: and that for about fifteen. Minutes, right we know what

1547
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 3: we're doing so when we run in, practice we know

1548
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 3: what's going. On so but the stand was always a

1549
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 3: guy that was he's. Stickling he really really stickler for.

1550
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 3: Preparedness you. Know he always wanted to we always want

1551
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 3: things to be. Right he wants you to be so

1552
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 3: much information that with this team that if they throw

1553
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 3: something at, us they.

1554
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 4: He thinks possibilities as a, possibility the.

1555
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 3: Possibility And pat used to, say, Say, stan all, right

1556
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 3: five five players stand. Five we just do, seven always.

1557
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 3: Seven So patty, like, okay they most they top three

1558
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 3: plays top. Three we at seven, again but it's not you,

1559
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 3: know but but we, knew we. Knew and somebody like zoebe,

1560
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 3: like come, on, man it's time to. Go, man it's

1561
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 3: time to, go you know stuff like. THAT i was, like,

1562
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 3: okay you know it's. COOL i, mean first of, all

1563
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 3: we're getting there at ten. Thirty you're not getting off the.

1564
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 3: Court practice is not gonna be over with into. Twelve

1565
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 3: that's an hour and a. Half so ten thirty to

1566
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 3: twelve you're not gonna get off the. Court so it doesn't.

1567
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 2: Matter.

1568
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 3: Though Once pat say at twelve, o'clock he looked at

1569
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 3: his watch and it's twelve, o'clock then he's gonna be,

1570
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 3: like all, right let's bring it in because his thing

1571
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 3: is an hour and a. Half you gotta get you,

1572
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,719
Speaker 3: know focused in an hour and a. Half way his clock.

1573
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 3: Is and that's where he got it spread up on

1574
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 3: his blue piece of. Paper so once, Once staying never

1575
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 3: took it over that twelve. Mark it was always right,

1576
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 3: there right on the. Dot but we knew we need

1577
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 3: to learn or that we need to. Know so if

1578
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 3: they threw it at, us we already was prepared For

1579
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 3: staying never took above and. Beyond but you, know he

1580
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 3: got a raw deal In. Miami he is a really

1581
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 3: really good, coach takes it to heart at, times need

1582
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 3: to calm. Down stand needs to calm. Down but that's

1583
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:30,640
Speaker 3: the competitiveness in.

1584
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 4: Him you.

1585
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 3: KNOW i love the competitiveness in. Him and he's always.

1586
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 3: Competitive he always always. Prepared he wants you to be,

1587
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 3: prepared and if you're not helping him be, prepared then

1588
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 3: you're not on his.

1589
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 5: TEAM i tell people all the time that if you

1590
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 5: got to Know, stand he would be one of the

1591
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 5: most favorite people you ever be, around because you, know

1592
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 5: people see him on the court and he's creamy, yelling

1593
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 5: But it's, like, dude y'all got no clue how great

1594
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 5: of a person's staying his whole family is white, kids.

1595
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 5: Everybody they some of my most favorite. People like you

1596
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 5: remember we go over, there take our kids over there

1597
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 5: there in the, pool, swimming staying in the, pool everybody

1598
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 5: hanging out in.

1599
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 4: This like you.

1600
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 5: WOULD i was super, surprised but like even to this,

1601
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 5: day you, KNOW i still live here In, orlando and

1602
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 5: we we do stuff in the community, together working on you,

1603
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 5: know stuff with social justice reform and, stuff and staying

1604
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 5: in his family all right there up at the forefront

1605
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 5: and they not playing no. Games we gotta been on

1606
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 5: calls with. Stands i'd have been a town hall meetings

1607
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 5: with staying and standing up in there like, yeah asking. Questions,

1608
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 5: he's like you, said prepared and. Informed and then it

1609
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 5: talk about his preparedness. Job like we worked together At

1610
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 5: turner this past.

1611
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 4: Year.

1612
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 5: Tim now you've seen his pregame situations and reports and

1613
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 5: his notes like this man walking TO NBA tv with

1614
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 5: his notes are, impeccable crazy next level crazy.

1615
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 4: People that like What i'm, like that's his, notes.

1616
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 3: Bro, yeah but that but that but that stamp all

1617
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,879
Speaker 3: the way that Stand he always want to be prepared

1618
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 3: for whateverything, happens whatever you bring, up he's going to

1619
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:20,759
Speaker 3: be prepared for, it and he's gonna talk knowledgeable about.

1620
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 3: It and when he comes it's like a class to.

1621
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,640
Speaker 3: Him it's like he teaching class or he's getting taught a,

1622
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 3: class and he's writing stuff. DOWN i bet you in

1623
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 3: between commercial he's writing stuff.

1624
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 5: Down i've never seen like the one of the things

1625
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 5: THAT i was most, Impressed, like how do you keep

1626
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 5: the same level of intensity you just did thirty minutes

1627
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 5: of screaming the same.

1628
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 4: Crap now the next team come.

1629
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 5: In and you got the same level of laser focus

1630
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 5: you and not not correct him because you just did.

1631
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 5: It now you on, him you on, point you seeing,

1632
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 5: everything and you you not skipping steps because you just

1633
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 5: did it like same exact. Thing that's insane to be

1634
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 5: able to come in here and do that every. Day

1635
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 5: i'm sitting, There i'm you, know it ain't my job

1636
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:07,719
Speaker 5: to do, it But i'm getting tired of just watching

1637
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 5: it like you ain't tired of you doing it LIKE i,

1638
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 5: was just.

1639
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 3: LIKE i, mean that's just repetition of being a. Coach

1640
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 3: that's all. Repetition, repetition knowing what he's gonna, do how

1641
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 3: he's going to do. It he's been a coach of

1642
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 3: a coach of a, coach so his father was coaching

1643
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 3: him when he was. Playing you, Know Pat rowley was coaching.

1644
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 3: Him why he was you, know so HE i, mean

1645
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 3: he's just he's always prepared for any and. Everything SO

1646
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 3: i just love being around, him and and it makes

1647
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 3: you be prepared To it makes you have to study

1648
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 3: and understand what exactly EXACTLY i sometimes you, know when

1649
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 3: you was in when we was in the meetings and you,

1650
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 3: know you say, something he was, like OH i, yeah,

1651
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 3: yeah you, know like you start to goald or. Something,

1652
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 3: YEAH i didn't know. THAT i didn't see. That what

1653
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 3: you didn't see? That oh you?

1654
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: Okay well, right, yes yeah.

1655
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: Exactly one of the other THINGS i always loved about your.

1656
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 1: Game you shot with rains im pretty. Jumping look at

1657
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 1: is going? Up like where did you get that jumper?

1658
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 1: From what did you do to just work on it

1659
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 1: to get your jumper to the level like?

1660
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 3: That the WAY i worked on it is a guy

1661
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 3: Named billy how they don't pass Over? Texas he, Said,

1662
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 3: tim you gotta get your your jump shot. Better he,

1663
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 3: Said i'm willing to work with you five hundred shots a,

1664
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 3: day and you, know the first week or, TWO i

1665
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 3: Know i'm gonna be running all over the place getting the.

1666
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 3: Ball but he, said but after, that trust, Me we're

1667
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 3: gonna shoot the same shot each and every. Time, repetition, repetition,

1668
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 3: reputation and it's gonna start going. In trust, Me AND

1669
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 3: i believed. THEM i went there five hundred shots a.

1670
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 3: Day it was, crazy. Man balls were just going. Everywhere

1671
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 3: and then two weeks later the balls were just just going,

1672
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 3: in just. Going it was all about. Repetition it was

1673
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 3: just EVERYWHERE i shot from it was just going. In

1674
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 3: that's where your confidence build. Too my confidence built up

1675
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 3: from that just the balls going. In it just went from.

1676
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 3: There so that's WHERE i got my. Confidence that's WHERE

1677
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 3: i got my. Repetition and that's WHERE i got shooting

1678
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 3: the right way and the same way all the. Time

1679
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 3: was in. College after my first year in, college he was, Like,

1680
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 3: yo it's gonna take, time but you got you gotta be.

1681
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 3: Patient AND i was. Patient AND i tell kids, THAT

1682
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 3: i tell people THAT i, Said i'm the Way i'm

1683
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 3: gonna move, you the Way i'm gonna have you going

1684
01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 3: back and. Forth you gotta trust the. Process you gotta trust. This,

1685
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 3: yeah first three or four, Days yeah it's gonna be,

1686
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 3: tough you're gonna be. Upset or watch fifth, day sixth,

1687
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 3: day it's gonna get better and better. Better if you trust,

1688
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 3: it it will get. Better and don't and don't try

1689
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 3: to force. It let it take its, course and it's

1690
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 3: gonna help you. Out that's why that's the way my

1691
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 3: jumper got. Better and then when when you get, hurt

1692
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 3: that's all you can. Do you you, know somebody just

1693
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 3: pass you the. Ball one thing you can do is.

1694
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 3: Shoot that's all you. Do you can't, move you can't,

1695
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 3: Run you just. Shoot and that's WHERE i. WAS i

1696
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 3: was just shooting in one spot all the, time and

1697
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 3: so my jump shot from that time WHEN i got,

1698
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 3: hurt from.

1699
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 2: Now on, out it was it was on for the

1700
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 2: point guards out.

1701
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: THERE i feel like the best point guards know how

1702
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 1: to control a, game a whole.

1703
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 2: Game they know how to get so and so the

1704
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 2: ball at the right.

1705
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 1: Time they know how to call the, players damn there

1706
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: when they don't even got to look at the, coach

1707
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: they can kind of do that.

1708
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:02,680
Speaker 2: Thing when did you learned like, oh, SHIP i can

1709
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 2: control the.

1710
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: GAME i can my influence on the, game AND i

1711
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: know how to put the pieces together.

1712
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 2: Win did you learn how to do that.

1713
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:15,759
Speaker 3: Back in grad, school back on the Street chicago playing?

1714
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 3: Basketball picking your own, team you, know because you didn't

1715
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 3: want to, lose because if you lost that at least Four.

1716
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah so so you you you picked the guys that

1717
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: you know are ready to play or gonna play today

1718
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: for you.

1719
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 3: And for your. Team back, then if you take that,

1720
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 3: shot a jump, shot you better make it because all

1721
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 3: them guys gonna get on your.

1722
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 2: Ass gonna be gonna be, like, DAMN i KNEW i

1723
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: shouldn't have picked your young. Ass, KNOW i shouldn't have

1724
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 2: picked your young. Gass you up.

1725
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 3: That he gonna be on your?

1726
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 10: Neck, yeah you know they might not pick you for

1727
01:27:54,320 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 10: The no you can't you can't play with. Us, yeah,

1728
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 10: yeah you.

1729
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 3: Can't mess up your. Trial you can't mess because they

1730
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 3: take it literally like, no you can't. Play so that

1731
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:12,600
Speaker 3: can mess with your confidence, too that guy's. Confidence And

1732
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 3: i've seen that. BEFORE i seen guys they couldn't take

1733
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 3: that pressure and hurt their confidence and was scared to

1734
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 3: play with that guy or scared to play against them

1735
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 3: because the. Right so that's where it comes. From it

1736
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 3: comes from back then WHEN i was in grammar, school high,

1737
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 3: school understanding who who the? Passed to win the pass to,

1738
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,719
Speaker 3: somebody you, know when to throw a bounce past, somebody

1739
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:37,480
Speaker 3: always knowing your person.

1740
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 2: Now person that know what everybody can, do.

1741
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 3: Do what they can't. Do who can defense? On who

1742
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 3: the better defense? Gull you know all that type of

1743
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 3: stuff that was way back then in grammar school BECAUSE

1744
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 3: i had a good coach, then and THEN i had

1745
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 3: a good tutors WHEN i was on the, court AND

1746
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:59,560
Speaker 3: i always. LISTENED i never had a big. HID i

1747
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 3: always listen BECAUSE i always wanted to. LEARN i always

1748
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 3: tell the, kids you, know it's always, emotions and it's always.

1749
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:11,799
Speaker 3: Emotions don't look at the. Emotions listen to the message

1750
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 3: that he's. Telling Pat raley asked me a question one.

1751
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 3: Time he, Said, Yo, Aunt, tim what you. THINK i, Said,

1752
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 3: well you, KNOW i don't get all wrapped up into

1753
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 3: you yelling and screaming and flexing yourself and all that

1754
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 3: type of. STUFF i really don't listen to. THAT i

1755
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 3: listened to your. MESSAGE i hear the message that you're

1756
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 3: telling me or telling us as a, team and this

1757
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 3: was telling us as a, team you want us to

1758
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 3: DO abc and this is how you want us to do,

1759
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 3: it and if we don't do it this, way then

1760
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 3: you're gonna get mad at, us and that's why we're

1761
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 3: not gonna. Win that's HOW i take.

1762
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 2: It, Yeah and that was the end of that.

1763
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 3: Conversation after, practice he was, Like, tim you can't say

1764
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 3: that in front of the young. Guys the young guys

1765
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 3: hear WHAT i have to. SAY i was, like, WELL

1766
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 3: i mean if you don't want to hear the, truth

1767
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i want you doing what you're supposed to. Do

1768
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:06,879
Speaker 3: i'm just telling you How i'm listening to the. MESSAGE

1769
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 3: i received the message differently from how the people receive.

1770
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 3: Messages WHY i tell these young people don't look at

1771
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 3: people and see the spick coming out their mouth or

1772
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 3: them yelling.

1773
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 2: Or the hand move.

1774
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 3: Man, yeah to the, message and when you lose the,

1775
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 3: message everything else will be all.

1776
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, YEAH i like that before we finish, up,

1777
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 5: Man like you, know you, know we bring people on

1778
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 5: here man that we, respect that we, admire we looked up,

1779
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 5: to and we love to give you your fliers while we.

1780
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 4: Here.

1781
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 5: Man so with that being, said we look at. You you,

1782
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 5: know you an icon of A chicago. Legend you know

1783
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:46,640
Speaker 5: What i'm, SAYING nba, Legend.

1784
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 4: That's What i'm. Saying that's that's What i'm that and

1785
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 4: you in.

1786
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 5: PARTICULAR i don't want to get into the whatever reasons

1787
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 5: why it hasn't.

1788
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 4: Happened we just want to be making in our.

1789
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 5: Book and then a lot of, people most most, guys

1790
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 5: most of our peers that we know you hall of

1791
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 5: fame all day, long belong. There whatever they gotta do

1792
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 5: make it. Happen but you one of the realists from the,

1793
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 5: crib always has. Been and then taking it to the,

1794
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 5: league you made young guys like me And i'm sure

1795
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 5: you inspired the D roses and all of the young

1796
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 5: kids from the. Crib you let us know that it's.

1797
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 5: Possible you was somebody that came, back we could, see

1798
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 5: feel touch. You you was at the, Programs she was at,

1799
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 5: It you was in the. City you from the. Culture

1800
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 5: SO i just want to give you your salute and

1801
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 5: say we appreciate you for suwing us that we too

1802
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 5: could go do.

1803
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 4: It and You hall of fame and you all of the.

1804
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 5: Above so big salute to, you and we appreciate You

1805
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 5: Tim we thank, you.

1806
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 3: MAN i appreciate you. All, hey, MAN i listened to

1807
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 3: y'all a. Lot y'all doing great. Things. Man much success to,

1808
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 3: y'all keep up the great. Work and y'all funny and.

1809
01:31:54,160 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 3: SHIT i love what go like, this, Y'all and thank, y'all,

1810
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 3: MAN i appreciate. That thank you man.

1811
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 4: All love

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