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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up everybody, DJ Bucky here back on Move the Sticks.

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Speaker 1: As we get a little bit further away from the

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Speaker 1: marching towards the twenty nineteen NFL Draft, still plenty to

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Speaker 1: get to today. Block, how you doing, man, Man, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I'm good. Like It's funny whenever you come back from

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Speaker 1: cross reverencing things with tape. And so it's an interesting time,

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Speaker 1: especially with paths to the draft coming up in a

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Speaker 1: your grades just based off of what you saw on

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Speaker 1: tight to what you saw on the tape. Absolutely, Um,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have some fun today going through what we

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Speaker 1: we get a full complete picture seeing all these guys

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Speaker 1: at the combine UH for the first time, a lot

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Speaker 1: of these underclassmen finding out measurables. UM, so what we

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Speaker 1: think of this class as a whole. We're also gonna

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Speaker 1: roll some of the conversations you had with UH some

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Speaker 1: of the top players in the draft down there an Indie, Buck,

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Speaker 1: you have a chance to talk to Drew Lock, Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: three UH first round offensive lineman in Washington, Washington States,

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Speaker 1: Andre Dillard, Florida's Jowan Taylor, Oklahoma's Cody Ford. So we'll

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Speaker 1: roll those conversations in just a little bit. But I

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Speaker 1: do want to start here just big picture, Buck, now

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Speaker 1: that you've got a chance to see everybody. UM, let's

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Speaker 1: just start real, real easy question here. Strengths and weaknesses

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Speaker 1: of this group, man, you know, like so I'm writing

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Speaker 1: it down, and I wrote down three different position groups.

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Speaker 1: tight in. I think this tight end classes is UM amazing.

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Speaker 1: I think you have three guys that easily grade out

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Speaker 1: go and revisit some of the conversations you had with

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Speaker 1: some of the top players in this year's draft class.

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Speaker 1: Here's Buck, here's your visit with Drew lock In Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: two potential first round quarterbacks. Here with man one of

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Speaker 1: our favorites on the Movie six podcast, Drew lock quarterback

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Speaker 1: from Missouri. Drew us all done. How's the comment for you?

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Speaker 1: It is? It is all done. Um. I enjoyed the process, man.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the parts that you know, there's

436
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Speaker 1: a bunch of film on us running on us, dwelling

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Speaker 1: and literally you know, people actually think about her, talk

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Speaker 1: about us, our meetings, our meetings are these teams, And

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Speaker 1: I think that's one of the big as things that

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Speaker 1: you know, we did this week besides to throw the

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Speaker 1: ball and run a forty. But um, I thought it

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Speaker 1: went really well and was just excited. It was a

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Speaker 1: dream to be here one day, and sure enough, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm here. I threw and I got to run a

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Speaker 1: forty quicker than I probably thought. It works out. It

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Speaker 1: works out. So the interview process, everyone is fascinated with

447
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Speaker 1: what goes on, but behind the scenes, UM, how do

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Speaker 1: you prepare for interviews and how are you able to

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Speaker 1: kind of shift seamlessly from team to team when they

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Speaker 1: may be asking you different things or drawing up different

451
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Speaker 1: stuff on the board. I think the biggest thing is

452
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Speaker 1: just knowing your place. Um. A lot of teams want

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Speaker 1: to talk about your offense. They want to know how

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Speaker 1: much you retain from the year, and you know, if

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Speaker 1: you can't talk about your offense, how are you gonna

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Speaker 1: pick up their's? And I think the big thing that UM,

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Speaker 1: people necessarily outside of you know, this tightened circle of football,

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Speaker 1: is that you know, you go into these rooms and

459
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Speaker 1: they're gonna press you, They're gonna try to get you

460
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Speaker 1: to say things that you know you weren't really ready

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Speaker 1: for it. But I think just being yourself was the

462
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Speaker 1: biggest thing, because you don't want to go in there

463
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Speaker 1: and be someone you're not, have them draft you and

464
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Speaker 1: have to put that person on for the next four years,

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Speaker 1: five years as you with him ten years sometimes and

466
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Speaker 1: you don't want to do that. You want to go

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Speaker 1: and be yourself and just have the team that you

468
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Speaker 1: know wants you for you and they're gonna pick you.

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Speaker 1: So now that you've done like kind of throwing and

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Speaker 1: going through the workout, how nerve reckon is it to

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Speaker 1: throw with receivers that you don't know, you don't have

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Speaker 1: time in with. Yeah, it is a little different. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think the hardest ball is definitely the post corner ball. UM.

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Speaker 1: Guys are coming out different levels, different speeds. It's my

475
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Speaker 1: first time. You know, my hands are a little sweaty

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Speaker 1: today to where I was like, wow, do I have

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Speaker 1: some nerve now going on? Um? But no, it was

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Speaker 1: it was good. I think I think everyone out here

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Speaker 1: did really well. I actually ruined with the wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: so we talked about a little bit coming out here

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Speaker 1: and it was just it was good. I think it

482
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Speaker 1: was good from everybody. So I mean, look, you were

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Speaker 1: a big down basketball player in high school. You played

484
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Speaker 1: in some big AU tournaments. Were you able to use

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Speaker 1: any of that experience playing in a big stage to

486
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Speaker 1: kind of help you prepare to get ready for this

487
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Speaker 1: big stage? Oh? For sure, when you play in front

488
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Speaker 1: of coach Kyl Parre and and I oh and Bill self,

489
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Speaker 1: and you know, not necessarily there where they were there

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Speaker 1: to watch me, but they were there. They were sitting there.

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Speaker 1: There's some teams don't need a quarterback, but they're here.

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Speaker 1: Uh No, it definitely prepared me. I think just any

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Speaker 1: type of big level of sport will prepare you for

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Speaker 1: all the other levels of sport. It's just, you know,

495
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Speaker 1: it was a blessing for me to be good at basketball. Um,

496
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Speaker 1: and I could you know, bring some of it out

497
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Speaker 1: here to the field, not necessarily like athletic stuff, but

498
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Speaker 1: a little bit of the pressure that comes with everything.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't get a chance to talk to you

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Speaker 1: after the seen your Bowl. That experience being able to

501
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Speaker 1: play for a pro coach and a pro system with

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Speaker 1: guys that you know were some of the top guys

503
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Speaker 1: in the country, what was that experienced like? Yeah, not

504
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Speaker 1: only playing for the pro coach, but you know, going

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Speaker 1: through a Gruden camp every single day, every single meeting um,

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Speaker 1: regardless of what situation, getting up and yelling the cadence

507
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Speaker 1: in front of the team and you know, lock, we

508
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Speaker 1: got corners over, what do you check into? And I'm

509
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Speaker 1: like fifty eight screech coach, like just I don't know,

510
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure on you. And uh, it

511
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Speaker 1: was really fun. It was really fun to be able

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Speaker 1: to have that experience. Get into a huddle, look guys

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Speaker 1: in their eyes, call out a fifteen word play and

514
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Speaker 1: you know, I break and I'm running to the line

515
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Speaker 1: just like all right, he's got this, he's got this,

516
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Speaker 1: he's got this. Never it just goes and get set

517
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Speaker 1: and they're ready. It's just something special. I think that's

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Speaker 1: one thing that unless you're a quarterback that end up

519
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Speaker 1: playing in the NFL and you just don't really understand

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Speaker 1: the huddle and how just amazing it is to be

521
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Speaker 1: in there and like just have guys looking in your

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Speaker 1: eyes and they trust you. So let's expand on that,

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Speaker 1: because in Missouri, you guys were up tempo, spread team,

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff looking to the sideline, kind of

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Speaker 1: going so now you go to a real hardle where

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Speaker 1: you have verbage and spin it out and making sure

527
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Speaker 1: everybody has to get everywhere and having to visualize to play.

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Speaker 1: How challenging is that when you haven't really had to

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Speaker 1: do that before. Yeah, it was. It was a little challenging,

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Speaker 1: but I think I picked it up really quick, probably

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Speaker 1: quicker than I expected. Um, which first of all, that

532
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Speaker 1: comes from Coach Eli and coach Coach Green doing a

533
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Speaker 1: great job, but um being able to like stand there

534
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Speaker 1: outside the huddle, get the play on the little headphones

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Speaker 1: and you years, which was weird as well. We've never

536
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Speaker 1: had that, And then going to the huddle and you

537
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Speaker 1: gotta call it clean. You can't foam around with your words.

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Speaker 1: These guys are gonna be like, do you even know

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Speaker 1: the play? And then they're gonna go up there like, gosh,

540
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Speaker 1: she doesn't even know the player. Screwed. Um, So you

541
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Speaker 1: just gotta be on the p's and queues. You gotta

542
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Speaker 1: go in there and just be be a confident guy.

543
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Speaker 1: Look everybody in their eyes, right, we're going on one ready,

544
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Speaker 1: and just get out of it. I think that was

545
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Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me and Coach Gruden talked about

546
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Speaker 1: you gotta speak with your eyes, speak with your hands,

547
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Speaker 1: and speak with confidence. So it sounds like that experience

548
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Speaker 1: really was kind of introduction to NFL football. Um, I

549
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Speaker 1: know you're working with Jordan Palmer and you have other

550
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Speaker 1: quarterback gurus around. How do you continue to work on

551
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Speaker 1: your game as you're getting ready to get ready for

552
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Speaker 1: the National Football League. Yeah. I think one of the

553
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Speaker 1: biggest things that I have is just my arm talent,

554
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Speaker 1: the weird thoughts I can throw from and not necessarily

555
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Speaker 1: always be on platform to be able to fill the ball.

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Speaker 1: But the big thing for me is not using that

557
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Speaker 1: one I don't have to. I'm trying to get on

558
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Speaker 1: platform as much as I can make the easy throws,

559
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Speaker 1: get my shoulder out to everything instead of side arm

560
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Speaker 1: and at sometimes where like that's still gonna be a

561
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Speaker 1: part of my game, a big part of my game,

562
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Speaker 1: but I'm not trying to be seven out of ten.

563
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a ten out of ten with these throws,

564
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Speaker 1: and that's the biggest thing for me. So running through

565
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Speaker 1: drills and get me off platform. I'm doing a drill

566
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Speaker 1: for thirty seconds, getting really tired with my legs where

567
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Speaker 1: I'm really having to get everything out there. Um, just

568
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Speaker 1: little things like that. I think it the gonna help

569
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Speaker 1: me just be better in my game coming up. So

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Speaker 1: with the pro day in private workouts coming up, what

571
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Speaker 1: what's the one thing that you want to kind of

572
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Speaker 1: hammer to scouts any valuators that Drew Lock can do

573
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Speaker 1: this really well. Yeah, I think that, not that I'm

574
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Speaker 1: just gonna do something really well, but just bottom line is,

575
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm your quarterback. I'm your franchise quarterback. I'm gonna

576
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Speaker 1: be able to come in, I'll be able to get

577
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Speaker 1: around the guys. I'm gonna make sure my face is

578
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Speaker 1: around that, around that facility, because no one wants a

579
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Speaker 1: young guy coming in getting picked early, not in the facility,

580
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Speaker 1: not putting the work in. I'm gonna be the exact

581
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Speaker 1: opposite of what you don't want as a franchise quarterback.

582
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Speaker 1: And I think that's the biggest thing I'm gonna try

583
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Speaker 1: to portray to these teams here with Daniel Jones Duke

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Speaker 1: stand Out joining the MTS podcast, how is your combine experience?

585
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Speaker 1: It was good, Um, it was a good week. You know.

586
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Speaker 1: I went down to the Senior Bowl mobile um into January.

587
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Speaker 1: So I think that kind of helped this and and

588
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Speaker 1: kind of uh getting a taste of what it liked

589
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Speaker 1: to be in front of these coaches and um, so

590
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Speaker 1: that I think that was good for me. But but

591
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Speaker 1: this week was good. I enjoyed it and um, you know,

592
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Speaker 1: another stay up in the right direction. I think how

593
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Speaker 1: much different was it from what you expected when you

594
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Speaker 1: came here? Because we can talk about the comma and

595
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Speaker 1: leading up to it, but what is it really like

596
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Speaker 1: when you're here and having to deal with the interviews

597
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: and all the other stuff that you have to encount Yeah, um,

598
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Speaker 1: you know, I think the thing about this is it's

599
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Speaker 1: very structured. It's very scheduled, uh you know, precisely, and

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Speaker 1: you're doing things back to back to back, you know,

601
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Speaker 1: and I guess I expected that, but um, to me,

602
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: the structure of it was was a little bit relieving

603
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Speaker 1: and that you knew when you were gonna need to

604
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Speaker 1: be to be on and be be uh be doing things. So, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I thought it was good. I thought it

606
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Speaker 1: was a good week. So you have a unique background

607
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Speaker 1: because you have guys that have really developed other guys

608
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Speaker 1: David cut Clift in your quarterback coach, David Morris and

609
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Speaker 1: all those guys, what have you been able to learn

610
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Speaker 1: from them along the way to really kind of help

611
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Speaker 1: you get ready for the next level. I think there's

612
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: a lot of things. Um, going back to Duke uh,

613
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Speaker 1: you know, Coach Cut and Coach Roper, I think I'm uh,

614
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Speaker 1: you know, prepared from a processing processing standpoint and kind

615
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Speaker 1: of an understanding of playing the position in the game. UM,

616
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Speaker 1: and hopefully that's prepared me, you know, understand that the

617
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Speaker 1: NFLS and the next step it's a it's a um

618
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: you know, even more of that that way. But UM,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm I'm ready for it, and and that's

620
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: been that's been good for me. But you know, I

621
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: think the common theme with all those guys just how

622
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Speaker 1: serious they take practice being on the practice field. You know.

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Speaker 1: I think with coach Cut, it always starts on the

624
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: practice field, uh, developing practice habits, and and that's something

625
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: that uh, you know David has you know, carried into

626
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: his coaching and something that he takes very seriously. So UM,

627
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Speaker 1: I think I'll definitely carey that with me for the

628
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: rest of my career. So so coming from your background,

629
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Speaker 1: you guy, like admittedly you weren't a big time or

630
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: five star recruit. You kind of earned your way and

631
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: worked your way up at and Duke can put yourself

632
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: in a position to be here. Now, what is going

633
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: the long way the hard way taught you to kind

634
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: of gets you ready to be a franchise quarterback? Um.

635
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Speaker 1: You know, I think even back to when I was

636
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Speaker 1: a little guy, when I was you know, pop warm

637
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: in middle school, I was always a younger guy. I

638
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: was always a smaller guy. Um. Physically, now I'm um,

639
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: you know, in a position physically to to play. But

640
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't always that way. So I think just kind of,

641
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: um growing up like that, competing like that taught me

642
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: a lot about um, you know, toughness first and foremost, um,

643
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: you know, being competitive and just kind of just kind

644
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: of fighting. I think I've always had to fight, so um,

645
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully now that that physically my I'm caught

646
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: up in physically, I feel like I'm in a good place,

647
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: um to take this step. You know, I think those

648
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: things kind of that fight, that competitive nature. Um, you know,

649
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: really what's gonna We're gonna make me successful in the NFL.

650
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: Unlike some quarterbacks, you played a bunch of sports in

651
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: high school. Three sports standout. How did playing other sports

652
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: kind of round out your game? It made you a

653
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: better player overall? Um, I mean, I think it's just

654
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: the will to compete. You know, every season you're competing again, um,

655
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: and you're competing in a different way. But it's at

656
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's it's competition. I think

657
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: that's the main thing and all that. But you know,

658
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 1: I think there's certain skills and certain uh, you know,

659
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: movement patterns in all sports that you um, you know

660
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: that you learn and you develop over time, and those

661
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: carry carry over for sure back and forth. So leadership

662
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: is such a big part of the quarterback position. Uh.

663
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: Haven't been a guy that has led a team like Duke? Um.

664
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: How do you feel like you've refined your skills and

665
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: are you comfortable at the stage of your career thinking

666
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 1: you can step into an NFL locker room and eventually

667
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: be a leader of a team. I'm very I'm very

668
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: comfortable with that, I think, UM, to me, leadership has

669
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: always been about building relationships. UM, you know, making sure

670
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: you understand the people you're with and they understand you,

671
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: and giving him a chance to do that. So you know,

672
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: I you know, I came into Duke as a walk on. Um,

673
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: and you know I read shut that year. I started

674
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: the next year and then I was a two year

675
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: captain after that. So you know, I feel comfortable earning

676
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: respective teammates and through that process, I think, Um, it's

677
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: something I've always done well and something I think I'll

678
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: do well in the NFL. Naturally, most players always have

679
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: someone that they look up to in the NFL that

680
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: maybe the emulator pattern of their game. After who are

681
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: some of those NFL quarterbacks that you look up to

682
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: and that you kind of use as your role models

683
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: when it comes to playing a game. Uh, we're growing

684
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: up at Charlotte, Jake Delane was the guy. So so

685
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: I really really love watching Jake and those Panthers. Uh,

686
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: those Panthers play and and um, so you know him.

687
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: But but Peyton Manning too was like that for me

688
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: and looking up to him watching him kind of just

689
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: the way he plays the game, just you know, his

690
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: approach of the game, his his ability to to process,

691
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: and you know, I think that's really playing the position.

692
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: I think that's what it's all about. And I mean

693
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: I think he's kind of the model that way. So

694
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: now that the combine is doing. You have your pro

695
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: day and a couple of few private workouts to look

696
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: forward to. What are some of the things that you

697
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: want to continue to work on to kind of show

698
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: scouts and evaluated that you're really ready to be at

699
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: the next level. Um, you know, I think, Um, I'll

700
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: continue to work mechanically to stay compact. I think I've improved.

701
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: They're working with David and and um you know coach

702
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: cut with that. So so that's something I'll definitely do.

703
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: But um, you know, now going back uh to Duke here,

704
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: I'll be back in Mobile next week and then I'll

705
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: be back at Duke. We'll we'll work on a pro

706
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: day script and kind of getting back with those guys

707
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: will be a lot of fun. Um you know t

708
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: j Uh, Jonathan Lloyd, Daniel Helim, Davis co Behavior, all

709
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: those guys Uh coming out Uh this class will will

710
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. So I'm looking forward to

711
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: getting back there and just kind of building that chemistry back.

712
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: But one thing we're looking forward to is what you

713
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: continue to grow, uh, not only as a player, but

714
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: as a person. Thanks so much for joining the Move

715
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: to six podcasts. Yeah, thanks for having me, buddy, All right, Buck, Well, look,

716
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: you got a chance to talk to both those guys.

717
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: Just your your biggest takeaway the difference maybe between the two.

718
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: Get a chance to visit with him. You know, Daniel

719
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: Jones is a little more um cerebral, a little more

720
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: kind of thoughtful, and a little more I would say

721
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: delivered in the way that he answers and stuff. But

722
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: I came away really impressed with him because his story

723
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: is different. I don't think we give him enough credit

724
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: in terms of being a walk on. It becomes a

725
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: two time captain and a starter and all those other things.

726
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: Drew Lock has more personality. I think Drew Drew has

727
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: been impacted and influenced by his time in a a

728
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: U with a bunch of different personalities that he had

729
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: to play basketball with, and I think that might serve

730
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: him will uh in the locker him. I think with

731
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 1: these two guys, I think the thing that evaluators have

732
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: to figure out, Uh, Do I want the guy that

733
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: has a lot of talent, maybe a plus arm talent

734
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: that is probably reminiscent of a Matthew Stafford. Or do

735
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: I want a guy where we talking about I know

736
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm getting. I think Daniel Jones is kind

737
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: of the guy I know exactly what I'm getting. He

738
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: may not reach the highest heights, but I think his

739
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: floor is pretty solid, and I think you know what

740
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: you're getting if you get him and put him in

741
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: as a starting quarterback. We'll see where those guys land

742
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: in the draft. Now, three three dudes I do believe

743
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: are gonna be locks to go in the first round,

744
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,239
Speaker 1: guys that will be tasked with blocking for people like

745
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: Drew Lock and Daniel Jones. That's Washington State's Andre Dillard,

746
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: Florida's Jawan Taylor, and Oklahoma's Cody Ford. Here's Bucky's conversation

747
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: with these three guys here at Washington State offensive tackle

748
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: extraordinary Andre Dillard. Andre, how has your combine experience? Man,

749
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 1: It's you know, once in a lifetime thing. It's just

750
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: I feel so surreal, even though I just finished, you know,

751
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: it's it's amazing. So coming into it. What were some

752
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: of the things that you wanted to prove to evaluators

753
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: and scales about what you could do on the field,

754
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: what you could do off the field. Yeah, I just

755
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, prove myself, right, I prove everybody

756
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: right that believe you know that I'm a you know,

757
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: one of the best athletes out here, and you know,

758
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: I think I, you know, lived up to that and

759
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 1: I'm pretty happy with what I did. There's obviously, you know,

760
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: a couple of things I would wish I did better,

761
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: but you know that happens so so and talking to

762
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: general managers, they always talk about the challenge of scouting

763
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: offensive line. When if you had to go and where

764
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: a scouts had, what would you look for in the

765
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: offensive line? Um, I definitely look for if he can move,

766
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: you know, because that's like how you start every single play.

767
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: Can you move to where you need to go? And

768
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: then I look for, um, you know, aggression, you know,

769
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: good feet and good hands and just that nastiness. So

770
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: and thinking about nasty's your background is unique and interesting

771
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: to me. You didn't play football until maybe eighth grade.

772
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: Uh what took you so long to find your way

773
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: to the game? And then did you feel like you

774
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: were always playing catch up because you didn't play at

775
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 1: early eight? Excuse me? Um, yeah, I did start late,

776
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: and you know, I just wanted to start playing because, uh,

777
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, my dad did and I look up to

778
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: him a lot, and I wanted to just try the

779
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: sport that he loved so much and just to say

780
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: that I tried it, and I thought it would make

781
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: me cooler around school. So I just want to give

782
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: it a try, you know. And I did feel like

783
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: I was playing catch up because you know, eighth ninth grade,

784
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: my first two years, I was terrible, and I felt

785
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: like I was playing catch up with all the guys

786
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: that have been playing since they were like six, you know.

787
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: And uh, it was tough, but like, you know, a

788
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: switch flipped inside of me when I hit high school

789
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: and it just kind of went up from there. So

790
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 1: you go on to Washington State and obviously everyone knows

791
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: about Mike Leach and the air ray system. You guys

792
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: throw the ball of time, so it puts a lot

793
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: of pressure on you. What does it like to play

794
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: in the system that puts so much pressure on the

795
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: offensive line to be able to hold up in past protection? Uh,

796
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, we take a lot of pride and especially

797
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: pass protection because we do that pretty much of the

798
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: time and every game. But you know, uh, it just

799
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: makes an athlete out of us, and you know, it's

800
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: just what we're used to. So to him, you had

801
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: a new offensive line coach Mason Miller come over and

802
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: heard great things about him and how he impacted the

803
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: offensive line and you personally talk a little bit about

804
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: coach Million what he was able to do to bring

805
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: some of the best traits out of you. Yeah, he

806
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: was you know, I'm blessing for us, the whole team,

807
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: the old line. Uh. He just you know, brought some

808
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: good things within, good vibes, good you know, teaching lessons

809
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: and um, you know, he was kind of nurturing top

810
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: of coach. You know, he always had his door open

811
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: and always uh you know, explained things really thoroughly if

812
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: we had questions and really wanted to make sure that

813
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: he could convey the information to us in the best

814
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: way that we can understand it. And you know, he

815
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: just wanted what was best for us. Always. Snana to

816
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: Kamba has done. What's the next up? What are some

817
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: of the things that you want to accomplish when you

818
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: get to your pro day and your private workouts? Um,

819
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: just continue to work um with some of the coaches

820
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: back in Irvine where I've been training, and uh, work

821
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: on the things that I need some improvement on for sure,

822
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: and emphasize those and you know, stay in shape and

823
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: just get ready to kill pro day and go on

824
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: from there and just keep grinding. Here what you want?

825
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: Taylor from Florida, Look, man, how has your Combine experience been.

826
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: It's been a lot of fun. I've been enjoying the

827
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 1: uh the dream comes true for me to come outre

828
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: and compete with the best. And I really enjoyed this week.

829
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: You know, so in thinking about it, because there's a

830
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: lot of anticipation prior to coming to Indianapolis, how did

831
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: it live up to what you thought it was going

832
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: to be prior to coming in? It definitely lived up

833
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: as what I thought it would be. A lot of meetings,

834
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of different medical things, pretty much

835
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: the workout. You know, it was very intense. So it

836
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: lived up to everything I thought it would be. Everyone

837
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: always wants to know about the interview process. What goes

838
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: on behind closed doors. How were the interviews for you?

839
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: Interviews went great. You know, the team's got to know

840
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: me better as a person and as a player, and

841
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: you know, we just got stuff on the board and

842
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: we watched film. It was fun. So like digging into

843
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: your story, I'm fascinated by the fact that as a

844
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 1: high school junior weight three ninety pounds. Uh, you dropped

845
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 1: the weight so you can get a scholarship to Florida.

846
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: How tough was it to lose so much weight within

847
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: a year. It was tough at first. Um, I lost

848
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: the weight in two and a half months, So I

849
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: lost to two points to an half a month. So

850
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: you know, I worked out three times a day, and

851
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: it just it just started following. Also, you know, I

852
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: got more confidence as it went on. So so when

853
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: you see someone of your side that is able to

854
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: move around and have the balance in the body control,

855
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: most of the time those guys play left tackle, why

856
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: have you always played right tackle? Aft Florida. Wasn't my decision.

857
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: I just did everything to help the team win. But

858
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'm open to play in any position to

859
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: help the team. So when you talk to teams, did

860
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: you have that conversation about playing right and playing left

861
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: and if you had a preference being on either side? Yes, sir,

862
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't really like my preference. You know, whatever the

863
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 1: team was going to play, I told him I played

864
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: to help them win. So you know I played left tackle,

865
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: guard whatever they wanted to play. So I gotta ask

866
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: you just because there are a lot of comparisons that

867
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: people make when you look at the NFL game. Who

868
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: is someone that you would say you're patting your game

869
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: after Leo Collins. I feel like the same playing style.

870
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: Were playing nasty and aggressive and physical. So what's next

871
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: for you? We have old Day coming up, we have

872
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: private workouts on the horizon. What are some of the

873
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: things that you want to show scouts and evaluated that

874
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: you kind of close the draft process? It really just

875
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: keep showing my lytticism me but me as a player.

876
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: You know, I have more meetings coming up, so just

877
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: more student of the game. Just want to show them

878
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: all every aspect of me. Well, we're definitely gonna be

879
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: looking forward to watching you continue to grow down this process,

880
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: watching you get picked on draft Day. Thanks so much

881
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: for joining the Move to six podcast here with Oklahoma

882
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: standout Cody Ford. Look, how's your common experience? Man? I

883
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: would say it's been very exciting all week, been getting

884
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: a lot of interviews. Um, so I feel like I

885
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: did great on that part in my opinion, came out

886
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: here today performed to what I would say is a

887
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: good good performance. Um some things I'm gonna do it

888
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: pro day again, mainly so I can keep building my

889
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: stock and go from there. UM. So much of the

890
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: common experience is about the interviews. What were the interviews

891
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: like for you? Was it more on the board people

892
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: just trying to get to know you kind of share

893
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: a little bit about that experience. UM. For the majority

894
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: of my interviews, it was more getting to know me,

895
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: I think, being than I was a young guy coming out. UM.

896
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: I did do some board work with a few teams, UM,

897
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: but mainly it was just getting to know me and

898
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: uh know what I'm about. Obviously, the buzz of the

899
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: combine is not learning about yourself but your teammate Cala Murray.

900
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 1: What is it like to play with the Heisman Trophy winner?

901
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: It's exciting, you know, not playing with just one, but

902
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: back to back Hysman winners. UM. I don't think many

903
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: people get to say that. UM. Very honored to play

904
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: with both of those guys. But playing with Kylerge is different.

905
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: He's a great athlete, I'm great leader, UM, and a

906
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: great teammate to have on your team, you know, and

907
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: thinking about that because it is a unique contrast to

908
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: be able to have Cala Murray. Then Baker Mayfield who

909
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: was first overall having to protect for both of those guys.

910
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: What are some of the similarities and differences between the

911
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: way they plot? Uh. Some of the similarities would be

912
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: they both like to take control of the situations, UM,

913
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: when it's need be Uh. Another similarity is if we

914
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: mess up as a line, they find a way to

915
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: make us look good, UH getting out of the pocket. Um.

916
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: One difference I would say was Kyler is not trash

917
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: talker as much as Baker. But that's the only difference

918
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: I can come up with. You know, prior to UH

919
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: start in the interview, you talked about going to Oklahoma

920
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: and the change that offensive coordinator. Everyone has been raving

921
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: about Leakn Riley as a play call and now as

922
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: a head coach. What makes his offense so effective? In

923
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: your mind? The biggest thing is we buy in as players. Um.

924
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: There's plays he comes up with during the game for

925
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: just one team you know sometimes UM, and we buy

926
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: in right the way. We don't never doubt his his

927
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: coaching abilities, his play calls. UM. Coach Riley is a

928
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: great coach. Definitely want them to coature a kid. UM.

929
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: You know he's a He's a friendly coach. He's a

930
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: player's coach for sure. He's fun, he's an energetic and

931
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: he's just an all around great guy. So for you,

932
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of conversation about whether you should play

933
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: outside of tacko bumped down inside and play guard. If

934
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: you had your preference, where would you play at the

935
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: next level If it was up to me, I'm playing tackle, uh,

936
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: mainly because I feel like that's where my best film

937
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: is at, That's where my best ball is at. UM.

938
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: But if his need be go to guard, I'm not

939
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: gonna complain at all. So we have the pro there

940
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: and we have private workouts left on your calendar. What

941
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: are some of the things that you would like to

942
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: accomplish and kind of check off uh. When it comes

943
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: to Scouse evaluation, some of the questions that they may

944
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: have about you, the biggest thing will be my upper

945
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: body strength. You know, only the nineteen on the bench

946
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: due to a little shoulder tightness. I don't want to

947
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: leave them with doubts about my upper body strength. UM.

948
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: I would say I would have to work on a

949
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: little more that real quickness. So don't have that thinking

950
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how to move that udly. UM. But

951
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: also I just want them to continue to get to

952
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: try to know me. I know what I'm about and

953
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: know that I'm a competitive Well, we know you're competitive

954
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: because your teams have always been in the mix. Excited

955
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 1: to watch you continue to go through this process. Thanks

956
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: so much for joining the move to six you alright, Black,

957
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: I would just say rock solid. I mean, I think

958
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: these three players are just rock solid players and whoever

959
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: gets them is gonna feel comfortable about that position being

960
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: taken care of for the next decade. Yeah. I feel

961
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: good about all of these guys. I think each of

962
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: them had compelling stories. Andre Dillard uh, never really playing

963
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: Paul until like eighth grade. Juwan Taylor, like I asked

964
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: him a question about, Hey, why are you playing right

965
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: tackles to the left tackle? He kind of made a

966
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: little funny face, and so I think he believed that

967
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: he could be a left tackle, he could play either side.

968
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: And then Cody Ford is just versatility. Um. I think

969
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: him being able to play anywhere along the line inside, outside, inside, outside,

970
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: finally being being able to kind of taste winning from Oklahoma.

971
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: That is important. And so all these guys to me

972
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: are uh what has kind of been the theme of

973
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: the podcast. Maybe we want to hit doubles. I think

974
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: these guys are really really saw and I expect all

975
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: of them to be long time pros. Alright, no doubt.

976
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: All Right, Well, there you go. That was fun, fun

977
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: episode today, getting a chance to look at the big

978
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: picture of view of this draft class, as well as

979
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: listening to some of the conversations with some of the

980
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: top players in the twenty nineteen class. Remember, you can

981
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: check out all of our videos NFL dot com Slash

982
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: MTS video or YouTube dot com Slash NFL. Thank you

983
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: so much for listening. We will have you covered here

984
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: on Move the Sticks. We got all your draft needs

985
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: covered as we marched towards the upcoming draft. Thanks for listening.

986
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,440
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987
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