1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: Final Hour on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan Ets 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show. More of your phone calls coming up, 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: update the poll results. Good morning if you're watching on Peacock. 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: That's our streaming partner, and we say good morning to 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: our radio affiliates around the country. Eight seven to seven 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: to three DP. Show operator Tyler is sitting by a 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: few things NFL wise, the merger between the mothership, NFL 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: Network and the NFL ten percent stake in ESPN. Now, 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: it's probably going to have to wait until twenty twenty six. 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: I'm just looking at some of the details, and these 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: negotiations have lasted for about four years, but they finally 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: have figured out how they can do this. The deal 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: is subject to regulatory approval. If approved, it likely won't 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: take effect until at least twenty twenty six. As part 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: of the deal, ESPN will get an additional three NFL 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: games per season they were air on NFL network partnership, 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: and you have, you know, three entities here, NFL Network, 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: the mothership, and NFL getting a ten percent ownership stake 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: in ESPN. I think from what I'm looking at, we'll 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: find out a little bit more here later on in 23 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: the hour, but this might help with the distribution around 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: the world, having the partnership with the SPN. I'm just 25 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: curious about what it means for you, the consumer. Likely, 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: what's this costing you? That's that's really all I care about, 27 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: you know, is the red zone going to cost more? 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: Springing Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host is 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: new book, Big Shield, comes out August nineteenth. That's about 30 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: the intersection of gambling, the mob, and pro football. You 31 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: can pre order the ebook for just ninety nine cents 32 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: on Amazon. What does this deal mean? Let's start with 33 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: the consumer. Why would they care about this merger? 34 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that the consumer was at the 35 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: front of the mind for either of the party get 36 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: involved in this. Frankly, the NFL has had essentially a 37 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: struggling media property in NFL Network. It's never become what 38 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: they thought it was going to be. They created Thursday 39 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: Night Football as a way to prop up NFL Network. 40 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 4: It debuted in two. 41 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: Thousand and six as a back half of the season 42 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 3: Thursday Night package to give NFL Network something that would 43 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: make cable providers want it. 44 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 4: It still never really. 45 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: Took off, and they've been trying for years to unload it. Dan, 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: I mean like ten years they've been trying to get 47 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 3: rid of this, and they've tied it different things. NBC 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 3: was in the conversation at one point, and now they 49 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 3: get ten percent equity in ESPN for these failing properties. 50 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't know that the consumer was the 51 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: main reason for this. And now the question becomes, how 52 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 3: do we make this seamless for the consumer? You know, 53 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: for example, ESPN did a deal as part of this 54 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: to continue to televise the draft for the next five years. Well, 55 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: when you turn on NFL network for the draft, are 56 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: you going to see Rich Eisen? 57 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 4: Now are you gonna see Mike Greenberg? Who's it going 58 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 4: to be? 59 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: And I think it's important for them to keep things 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 3: normal from the perspective of the consumer, because I think 61 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: most people are afraid number one, things are going to 62 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: change and number two, we're gonna get screwed. I just 63 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: think that's the natural reaction to this news that these 64 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: two behemoths have come together. 65 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: One of the first things that came to mind is 66 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: what if Fox has a problem with their deal or 67 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: the NFL says to Fox here, take it, take it 68 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: or leave it. We'll have some like I don't know 69 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: if there's gonna be well, the NFL is in bed 70 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: with ESPN, and what's that mean for the other TV partners? 71 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: We will see and look, you give the league ten 72 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: percent equity in your company, and maybe the value isn't 73 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: there to support it, but you know what's not going 74 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: to happen. You're not gonna lose Monday Night Football. You're 75 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: not gonna lose your spot in the Super Bowl rotation. 76 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: You are now a permanent partner of the NFL at 77 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: a time when all the tech companies are hovering and 78 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: the TV deals are up after twenty twenty nine, technically 79 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 3: twenty thirty three, but the league has the ability to 80 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 3: pull the plug, and obviously they will. ESPN doesn't have 81 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 3: to worry about being left out in the cold and 82 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: Dan the other thing this does, and this really needs 83 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: to be fleshed out by the union. Instead of taking 84 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: money for these properties, taking equity. That may screw the 85 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: players because the players don't share equity with the league. 86 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 4: The players share money with the league. 87 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: So you're offloading more games to ESPN and they're not 88 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: paying X one hundred million for them. 89 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: They're giving you equity all under. 90 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 3: The CBA that equity may be exclusive to ownership, and 91 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: until equity turns into money, players don't get a penny. 92 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 3: That's something the new interim executive director of the union 93 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: had better put at the top of his to do 94 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: list to figure out, how are we possibly getting screwed 95 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: by this. 96 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: You might be the first person, maybe the only person 97 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: who pointed this out, but Jerry Jones talking to Micah 98 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: Parsons without representation in there is not allowable. But Jerry 99 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: wants the conversation to be allowable, and that they had 100 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: a deal back in March. So what is the rule 101 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: of an owner talking directly to a player about a contract? 102 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you really couldn't make this up. The Jerry Jones 103 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 3: and Chris Simms made this point earlier day on PFT Live. 104 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 3: Certain owners will invoke any and all rules that help them. Well, 105 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: that's the rule, Hey, the rules of the rules contracts contracts. 106 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: CBA says we can do this. 107 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: But as to the stuff that gets in the way 108 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: of what we're trying to do, forget about the rules. 109 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 4: And it's clear in the CBA. 110 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 3: If there is a verbal agreement that has reached between 111 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 3: a player and a team. It must be reduced to 112 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: writing as soon as practical, the idea that they did 113 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: a handshake deal back in March. 114 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: And I think you know, if there was a flow. 115 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: Chart, Dan, step one would be, will Micah accept the 116 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: deal that he supposedly agreed to in March, which surely 117 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 3: is far less than whatever. 118 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: He wants now? And if he won't, I think what 119 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 4: Jerry's trying to. 120 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: Do is get Mica to play for twenty four million 121 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: this year and they're kick it all the next year. 122 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: But you're right under the CBA, you can't do this. 123 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: You can't negotiate directly with the players. The agent is 124 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: the exclusive representative certified by the union to act as 125 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: the union in the dealings between player and team, and 126 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: the NFL hasn't. 127 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: Done anything about it. 128 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: The union hasn't done anything about it. So hey, if 129 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: I'm Jerry Jones and they're not gonna tell me I 130 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 3: can't do it, what the hell I'll keep doing it. 131 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 5: How's this play out? 132 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: I really do think that Jim wants Micah to either 133 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 3: take the deal that they had a handshake on in 134 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 3: March or play for twenty four million this year and 135 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: kick it to next year. 136 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: Because the key is this. 137 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: Dan, the longer the team can keep the injury risk 138 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: on the player, the more the team is protected against 139 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: something happening to the player that would keep him from 140 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: ever playing again, or playing as well as he used to. 141 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: Career ending or career limiting. The risk is on the player, 142 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: not on us, and for the team that's dealing with 143 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: a bunch of different players. The more times you can 144 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: keep that risk on the players, the better off you 145 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: are over the long haul. And we've seen that they 146 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: kick the can with Dak Prescott. You know, they kicked 147 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: the can until somebody says enough. That's why I still 148 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: think he should have held out. If he'd have held out, 149 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: they would eventually have caved like they did for Ceedee 150 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: Lamb last year, like they did for Ezekiel Elliott. 151 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 4: In twenty nineteen. 152 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: They're going to try to I think, if he won't 153 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 3: take the deal that he supposedly agreed to in March, 154 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: they're going to try to kick this to next year. 155 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: And I know twenty four million sounds like a lot 156 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: of money, but when the market's forty one and Mike 157 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: should be getting forty five, yeah, you don't want to 158 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: play this year for twenty four. 159 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: Why doesn't somebody say to Jerry Jones, you know, Jerry, 160 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: you can't negotiate a contract with a player. 161 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: And well, because for whatever reason, nobody is willing to 162 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: tell Jerry Jones he can't do it, and the union 163 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: hasn't filed a grievance. 164 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: It would be very easy to do. 165 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: If this new interim executive director wants to make a splash. 166 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: What he could do, what David White could do, immediately 167 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: file a grievance against the Cowboys and Jerry Jones for 168 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 3: dealing directly with players when they should be dealing with 169 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: the agent you want, you want to try to balance 170 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: out the relationship a little bit, stand up and fight 171 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: for your players. 172 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: Talking to Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live, co host 173 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: the show that preceeds hours on Peacock. In his next book, 174 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: Big Shield, comes out August nineteenth. It's the intersection of gambling, 175 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: the mob, and pro football. You can pre order the 176 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: e book for just ninety nine cents on Amazon. Out 177 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: of nowhere, the NFL comes out with no more smelling salts? 178 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 2: Where's this been? 179 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: Or you know what took so long? 180 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 3: It's been sixteen years since they had their concussion epiphany. 181 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: The first time I ever became aware of smelling salts, 182 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: it was in a movie or a TV show where 183 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: a boxer gott knocked senseless and they stuck it under 184 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: his nose to wake him up. And now they're finally like, oh, 185 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: it could mask the symptoms of a concussion. Yeah, of 186 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: course it can. That's why they use them. And how 187 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: many years have we seen like the images of a 188 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: guy on the sidelines, not because he's taken a blow 189 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: to the head, but just it kind of gets them going, 190 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: Like it's always been a weird look for the NFL, 191 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden they realize probably not 192 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: a good idea to supply these, and they haven't banned them. 193 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 3: You can bring your own, I assume, bring your own 194 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: smelling salts, stick them in your sock, and if you 195 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: need a little kick before the game, so be it. 196 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: But it's always been a strange thing to me, the 197 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: huffing of ammonia at a time when they're ultra sensitive 198 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: to concussions, where the smelling salts are always the thing 199 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: that they use to wake a guy up who's taking 200 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: a blow to the head. 201 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so they're taking the liability away from the teams. 202 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 2: Now it's on you. If you want to use smelling salts, 203 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,239 Speaker 2: you can. We just we're not taking any ownership. 204 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: We're not supplying them. 205 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: Now they'd have to negotiate with the union. See that's 206 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: the thing, and this gets back to collective bargaining. The 207 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: league never wants to have to give anything up just 208 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: because currently the players are allowed to bring their own 209 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: smelling salts, they're not banned from using them. So they 210 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: have to sit down and give up a little of this, 211 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: give up a little of that. Maybe do a handshake 212 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 3: deal with Jerry Jones in the room, and the next 213 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 3: thing you know, the players are banned from using them 214 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 3: at all. But yes, this is a liability thing, Dan, 215 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: we can't get sued. We can't get in trouble for 216 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: supplying these to somebody who has a concussion and they 217 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: take the hit of it, and they go back in 218 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 3: and play and they get a second concussion and they 219 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: have a serious injury as a result of it. 220 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: If I'm a Rams fan and I'm listening watching concerned 221 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: about Matthew Stafford, what would you tell the Rams fan 222 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: today about this situation? 223 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 4: I would say that for now, you should not be concerned. 224 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: I believe, and I'm told he'll be back on the 225 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: field later this week. Now, I don't know where that means. 226 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: He's going to be fully participating in practice. Would be 227 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: working out on the field of a month to get 228 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 3: ready for week one. And Matthew Stafford I said this 229 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: earlier day. If he wrote an autobiography, the chapter on 230 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: all the injuries that he's had in his career would 231 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: be the longest chapter in any book that's ever been written. 232 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: He's had injuries we know about, He's had injuries we 233 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: don't know about. 234 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 4: He just sucks it up and he keeps going. 235 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: I think they have deliberately given him time to let 236 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: the back settle down. Anybody that's ever had a back 237 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: problem knows it operates on its own timetable and it 238 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: needs a certain period of time to get back to normal, 239 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: and they wanted to, I believe, let it get to 240 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 3: normal and give it even more time before they put 241 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: him out there, because they don't want this to keep 242 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: coming up throughout the course. 243 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: To the season. 244 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: Troy Aikman has said, Hey, people think I retired because 245 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: of concussions. I retired because of back problems, and you 246 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 3: think of a way that quarterbacks move and the twisting 247 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: and the torking. 248 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 4: They're just giving him extra time. I think it'll be 249 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 4: good to go. 250 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 5: Are the Browns trying to win this year? 251 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 4: I think that they're trying to do Dan. 252 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 3: It's a twist on the plot of Major League Their 253 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: fans are upset that they're moving out of downtown Cleveland, right, 254 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 3: so if they are really really bad, the fans won't 255 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: be as upset that they're moving to suburban Brook Park 256 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: when they build their new stadium. It really is ridiculous 257 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: to me, and this is what happens when you prioritize 258 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 3: strategizing and analytics over building a football team. You don't 259 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: draft Shade or Sanders in round five when you've taken 260 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel in round three, you don't obviously give up 261 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: three first round picks plus and a two hundred and 262 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: thirty million dollars fully guaranteed contract in Shaan Watson. It's 263 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: like every decision point the Browns have in front of 264 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 3: them over the past ten years, they've gone the wrong 265 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: way and here's where they are. 266 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: So, yeah, this is gonna be It just feels like 267 00:12:58,840 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 4: it's going. 268 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 3: To be a disaster for the Browns, and I feel 269 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: bad for Browns fans. They deserve so much better than 270 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: what they've gotten. And it all goes back to ownership. 271 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: It all starts there, and what they've gotten under Jimmy 272 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: Haslam has been unacceptable. 273 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 5: What does Deshaun Watson do every day. 274 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: Well, he is working his way back Dan to full health. 275 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: And that is where this messy quarterback situation gets even worse. 276 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 3: When he shows up with the piece of paper that 277 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: says you're good to go. They got a decision to make. 278 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: They either got to put him on the fifty three 279 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: man roster with however many other quarterbacks they're going to 280 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: carry into the season, or they have to release him 281 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: and Dan. 282 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 4: If they release him, they take. 283 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: A one hundred and thirty million dollars cap charge next 284 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 3: year for his contract. 285 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 4: If they release him right now. 286 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: So he may be on the roster, we may have 287 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: a fight under the CBA where the player says I'm 288 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: healthy and the team says, no, you're not, and they 289 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 3: have a grievance where the doctors fight it out to 290 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 3: prove whether or not Deshaun Watson's healthy and if he wins. 291 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 4: They've either got to put him on the roster or 292 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 4: they have to cut him. That's it. 293 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 3: And they're not going to cut him because they're not 294 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: going to take that one hundred and thirty one million 295 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 3: dollar cap charge next year. 296 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 5: Does Deshaun Watson want to play football game? 297 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: I think he looked, and you know, I think where 298 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: the worm may have turned for him, because you know, 299 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: between the rustiness and the injuries and the off field issues, 300 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: I think it really did affect him as a human being. 301 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: How could it not all those different things. And look, 302 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: I'm not excusing it direct result of his own alleged misbehavior, 303 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: but when the owner of the team comes out and 304 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: says in March Man, we really took a swing and 305 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: a miss on. 306 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 4: That one, that's kind of a middle finger to Deshaun Watson. 307 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 6: So now he's got a purpose, he's got a reason, 308 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 6: he's got he's got an apollo creed for his Rocky 309 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 6: bow Bull to try to make this a comeback story. 310 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: And I'm sure he'd love to stick it to Jimmy 311 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: Haslam and put the Browns in the position where they've 312 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: got to activate him and put him back on the roster. 313 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: I think the guy fully intends to get healthy and 314 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: come back and try to be the guy that he 315 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: was that made the Browns give up all that stuff 316 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 3: to get him. 317 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 5: Can Justin Tucker play again? 318 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 4: Well, he's going to have to serve the ten game suspension. 319 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: But you know, Dan, the reality is this, he dipped 320 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 3: last year from a performance standpoint. 321 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: Now if he can convince a. 322 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: Team that he can show up and kick like he 323 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: used to, then you get into the question of do 324 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: we want to take and this look, I hate to 325 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: be the cynical, but this is the way it works. 326 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 4: What's the pr hit. What kind of criticism are we 327 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 4: going to take if we bring in Justin Tucker? How 328 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 4: much better is he going to make us? 329 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: Are we better off just getting a guy no one 330 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: knows to be our kicker? That's the analysis of team's 331 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: going to have to make. 332 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: Good to talk to you. Thank you again, Mike, see 333 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: you about that. It's Mike Florio fighting a good fight. 334 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: Pro Football Talk Live co host NBC Football Night in America. 335 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Justin. 336 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: Tucker, you know, the combination of everything that happened off 337 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: the field and on the field, he wasn't good or 338 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: wasn't up to his Hall of Fame standards made it 339 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: easy for the Ravens to go. 340 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 5: We can say goodbye to. 341 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: You, but if this is three years ago, then all 342 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: of a sudden you have to weigh the It's just 343 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: like when Michael Vick came out of prison and he 344 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: went to the Eagles. All Right, there's going to be 345 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: a pr hit. How long is it going to last? 346 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 2: Is it worth it? 347 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 3: You know? 348 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: Ray Rice? Ray Rice couldn't overcome that. But he was 349 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: a little bit older as a running back, and we 350 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: couldn't overcome that. We see this all the time. It's 351 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: you know, what are you accused of? And how good 352 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: are you? It's kind of a you know, this scale 353 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: balancing that you have with some teams like you know, 354 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: and I always love when the owner or the GM 355 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: or the coach, everybody deserves a second chance. 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Mike McCarthy, Front office sports senior media reporter 377 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: and tuned in columnists joining us on the program. Mike, 378 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. What did ESPN buy from NFL Network? 379 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 8: I think they bought themselves an insurance policy, Dan. I 380 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 8: think when you look at the future and you see 381 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 8: streamers like Apple coming in, it's going to be a 382 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 8: lot harder for NFL to get rid of ESPN or 383 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 8: take away their Monday Night package if they're actual equity 384 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 8: partners together. So I think that's one thing. I think 385 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 8: number two they bought a huge selling point for their 386 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 8: new direct to consumer platform, red Zone, NFL Network, NFL programming, 387 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 8: this is the beachfront property that we all want. So 388 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 8: I think those are the two big things. 389 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 5: Anybody else consider this move buying NFL network. 390 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, they talked to a lot of people, and only ESPN, 391 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 8: you know, came up and stepped up to the table. 392 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 8: And I think there's going to be a lot of 393 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 8: grousing Dan amongst the other media partners. Is ESPN going 394 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 8: to get favored nation treatment? Are they going to get 395 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 8: a better game schedule? Are they gonna get more Super Bowls? 396 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 8: But you know, I think the NFL's answer to that 397 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 8: will be tough. You had your chance and just like 398 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 8: the NFL TV partners passed on Thursday Night Football and 399 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 8: it ended up on Amazon, they had their chance and 400 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 8: they didn't go for it. 401 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 5: Does Fox have a gripe about this? Does NBC have 402 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 5: a gripe? Will they? 403 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: As you said, it feels like the NFL is going 404 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: to give preferential treatment to ESPN, and you know, as 405 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: a result of this deal, I. 406 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 8: Think they will have a gripe. I think there's going 407 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 8: to be grumbling. I think there's gonna be some you know, 408 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 8: working of the referees as it were then, you know, 409 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 8: to trying to make sure everybody gets favored nation status. 410 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 8: But in the end of the NFL doesn't care. The 411 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 8: NFL makes up the rules and they play by their 412 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 8: own rules, and you know, if they don't like it, 413 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 8: they can go pound sand. 414 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: So in three years from now, Stephen A. Smith is 415 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: handing out the Lombardi Trophy. 416 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 8: Well, actually I was hoping you would do it then. 417 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: I'm not going back to the Mothership, but you know, 418 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 2: maybe rich Eisen can, because they it would be awesome 419 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: if Chris Berman got to hand out a super Bowl trophy. 420 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 8: And that was one of my favorite stories recently was 421 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 8: ESPN extending Boomer through his fiftieth year at the Mothership 422 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 8: and making sure he's part of the super Bowl. You know, 423 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 8: as you know Dan, you know, ESPN has wanted the 424 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 8: Super Bowl since its founding. They've got a countdown clock 425 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 8: there on Bristol, you know, ticking away the time until 426 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 8: twenty twenty seven. So it's gonna be big for that. 427 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 2: I remember when I was up there, what was at 428 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: the forty fifth anniversary, and I was talking to Jimmy Pataro, 429 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 2: and I said, don't let Chris Berman disappear. Don't let 430 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 2: him disappear. The network owes him. Make sure you keep 431 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: him on primetime. And you know what he did. He said, 432 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: you know, I really appreciate you tell me that. I said, 433 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 2: this is what Chris lives for. This is important to him, 434 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: and I truly mean that. You know what he's meant. 435 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: He's the most important person in the history of ESPN 436 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: because of what he's done for that place and continues 437 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: to do it. So if he got a chance to 438 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: hand out the Super Bowl Trophy, the only problem is 439 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: they would have to tell Chris, you got to speed up, 440 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 2: though you can't meet you know, spending a lot of 441 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: time at you know, time is money, get the trophy, 442 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: do your interviews, and then send it back up to 443 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: the booth. 444 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 8: That's right, that's right. He's got to get it. He's 445 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 8: got to get it together to do it fast. But 446 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 8: I mean, you're right. I mean, NFL Prime Time was 447 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 8: so influential back in the day for the Internet and 448 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 8: all the rest of it. That's how we got our highlights, 449 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 8: you know, that's how we checked that our fantasy football 450 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 8: players and we lived and died by that show. 451 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: Talking to Mike McCarthy, it's front office sports senior media reporter, 452 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 2: I brought up the conflict of interest with the Mothership 453 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: and the NFL. 454 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 5: I don't know if it matters. 455 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: You know that they own ten percent of ESPN now, 456 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: and you know ESPN has been a partner with NFL forever. Anyway, 457 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: I mean, this now just becomes official. Is there any 458 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 2: thought to that from ESPN side of this, of the 459 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 2: optics of how this looks? 460 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 8: You know, I was asking them about it today and 461 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 8: they don't see it as a problem. I mean, ESPN 462 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 8: is already paying two point seven billion dollars a year 463 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 8: for Monday Night football rights, which is far more than 464 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 8: any other media reporter. You know, as a journalist. Does 465 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 8: it concern me? Yes, But I think these issues are 466 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 8: come under the heading of the horses out of the barn. 467 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 8: You know, we're not going back to the days where 468 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 8: ESPN is going to do playmakers or do something that's 469 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 8: going to tick off Paul Tagloubu or Roger Goodell. They 470 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 8: know that the NFL is where it's at and they 471 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 8: want to stay on the good side of the NFL. 472 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 5: The future of red zone is. 473 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 8: Future of Red Zone is not going to change, Thank you. 474 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 8: Scott Hansen will continue to host The Red Zone, they 475 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 8: will continue to produce the show NFL Network. However, here's 476 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 8: the real wrinkle in this, Dan is, ESPN gets the 477 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 8: rights to the Red Zone brand, so they will in 478 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 8: the future be able to do future red zones for 479 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 8: other league partners. Now, if I'm a ESPN I'm going 480 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 8: to the NBA right now and saying I want to 481 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 8: do a red zone for the NBA, especially with Amazon 482 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 8: and NBC breathing down my neck this. 483 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 5: Wall, Well, they would have the licensing for red Zone. 484 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 8: You're saying, that's right, and they would be able to 485 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 8: create a red zone for the NBA, a red zone 486 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 8: for the NHL, possibly a red zone for college football, 487 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 8: and ESPN would own those new rights going forward. 488 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: Great work, keep it up, Mike. Great to talk to 489 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: you again, Thank you for joining us. 490 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 8: Thank you, Dan. 491 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 2: That's Michael McCarthy. He's a front office sports your media reporter. 492 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 9: All right. 493 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: It's interesting, but once again, some of it is kind 494 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: of inside TV, and that's where I want to kind 495 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 2: of figure out what it's going to mean to us 496 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: the consumer, you know, the cord cutting. You know, that 497 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 2: was a big reason why Mothership was trying to how 498 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: do we how do we, you know, ensure ourself that 499 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: we're going to continue to be worth whatever it is. 500 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: I think the three years ago twenty six billion dollars 501 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: the evaluation was with the Mothership. Now you add this 502 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: and it feels like NFL Network or they finally get 503 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: a home. ESPN gets more programming and a better relationship 504 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 2: with the league, and the league gets more distribution. It 505 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: feels like it's a win win win until you get 506 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: your cable bill and all of a sudden you go, 507 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: wait a minute, why am I paying for Scott Hanson here? 508 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: Even though I love Scott, but you're going to be 509 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 2: paying for it somehow, some way the direct to consumer. 510 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 10: Over the past fifteen years, ESPN has had a goal 511 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 10: zone goal line system for college football. It's not as 512 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 10: robust and perfect like the NFL because the games aren't 513 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 10: scheduled exactly that way, but they do have a bit 514 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 10: of a cutaway system to watch college football highlights. 515 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 5: John and Syracuse. Hi John, what's on your mind today? 516 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 9: Hey Dan, I'm sitting on this for a while. 517 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 11: I have all the hypothetical band names that you guys 518 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 11: have come up with throughout the years, and there's about 519 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 11: thirty five of them, and I can read them all 520 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 11: real quick, and I'll try not to make it look 521 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 11: like I'm eating my own face, Okay, Ladies and gentlemen. 522 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 11: Spontaneous displays of emotion, The Mellowists, rampant ignorance, the Dead 523 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 11: Dad's Lights Out, Mary Factory of Sadness, Ornerie Colon, Mumball 524 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 11: and the Pretty Boys, Apache butter Knives, dial sloppiness, mutilated currency, 525 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 11: JD in the straight Shots, minimumkindness, big head syndrome, unpleasantly 526 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 11: stiff league, curated audio, wisdom in silence, absolute fury, occasional vacuum, 527 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 11: diminishing resumes, the reefer, perfect storm of crap tainted with sewage, 528 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 11: tragedy strewn screwball and dead leg PATCHI fog hate wish, 529 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 11: sustainable goodness, Albania struggles, potentially fraudulent dangling stones, back in shack, 530 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 11: rapid eye movement and tears of pressure. 531 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 5: Thank you, John h. 532 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: Aka this year's Bonnarula. I love that, Thank you, John. 533 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: The Ornery Colon, that's my favorite one. 534 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 5: I'm not mistaking. They open for gwar. 535 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, The lead singer of Ornery Colon sayload 536 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: to Todd Fritz. 537 00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 12: How's it going everybody? 538 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 2: Thanks for coming out aw in Virginia. Aw, what's on 539 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: your mind? 540 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 4: Oh ay? 541 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 13: Oh? 542 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 5: I just wanted to tell you that the second Adam 543 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 5: Saler movie, the. 544 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 9: Golf Movie, is awesome. 545 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 14: My wife and I have already watched it twice. 546 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 9: We think it's better than the first one. 547 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, aw a lot of great reaction to it. 548 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 2: What I find, you know, kind of fascinating is I 549 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 2: have a couple of neighbors and they're around my age 550 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: and one of the guys I see him yesterday. He goes, uh, 551 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: saw the movie. Now I know just by that delivery 552 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: that you didn't like it. So he goes, hey, saw 553 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 2: the movie. I said, Frank, it's not a movie for 554 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: our demographic. It's probably for your daughter, maybe somebody younger. 555 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 5: And he goes, Okay that. 556 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: Was He goes, uh uh do they let you keep 557 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: the mustache? I go no, no, I had to give back. 558 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 2: Corey in Kansas City, Hi, Corey, what's on your mind today? 559 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: Hey? 560 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 15: Good morning, mister Patrick, gentleman A Todd Mark Seaman Lutang 561 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 15: Forever guys stuck at port side. Hey, Marvin, don't let 562 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 15: Dan lie to you. By the way, even us midwestern 563 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 15: white boys wanted aout Charlotte Hornets starter jacket. But speaking 564 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 15: of unis, Tampa Bay just revealed their like awesome nineteen 565 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 15: seventy six throwbacks that white with the creamsicle accident. I 566 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 15: wanted to know your guys' opinion on the best throwbacks 567 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 15: from the NFL. 568 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 2: Okay, but thank you, Corey. But hold on here. Not 569 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: everybody was in on the cream sickle. They made fun 570 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: of the cream sickle because Tampa wasn't good. If if 571 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: you had Patrick Mahomes wear cream sickle, it's going to 572 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: look good because it's Patrick Mahomes, or if Josh Allen's 573 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: wearing it, if you go back man, history was not 574 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: kind to the creamsickle uniform. 575 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 5: I love it. 576 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: In fact, the griff artist Arsy, who did all the 577 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: work in the fieldhouse there out on the basketball court 578 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: in the football field, I had him come in when 579 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay, and I had him 580 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 2: come in and repaint Brady as a Patriot. And I said, hey, 581 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: I want you to do the cream sickle And he said, 582 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: you're going to have to explain that to me. And 583 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: I said, here's the picture of the uniform. And if 584 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: you're watching on Peacock now, I asked my artist, who 585 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: is a wonderful street artist, and Arsy came in and 586 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: put Tom Brady in the creamsicle and it looks great 587 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: because it's Tom Brady in a creamsickle. That's the big difference. 588 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: Craig in Virginia. Hi, Craig, what's on your mind today? 589 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 16: Thanks? 590 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 3: Dan? 591 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 16: I love your interview is just like today's three, always 592 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 16: so insightful. I want to add that on your topic 593 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 16: earlier about Presidential Fitness Award, I'm a fifth grade teacher. 594 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 16: I can confirm that the Fitness award is very tough 595 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 16: to get. I'm still trying to get it thirty years later. 596 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 597 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 16: But more importantly, it's my wife and I's anniversary. You 598 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 16: guys are must listen in our household, especially when we 599 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 16: are on the road traveling during the summer. I want 600 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 16: to see if we can get a shout out for 601 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 16: my wife and I anniversary. Keep up the great job. 602 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 2: And your wife's name is Abby, Abby? Oh Abby? 603 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 5: All right? Uh? Good kisser, what. 604 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: Craig, congratulations our best to Abba our best good kisser 605 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: abs absolutely absolutely Michael and Nashville. 606 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 5: Hi Mike, what's on your mind? 607 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 9: Hey Dan? 608 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 14: How you doing? I got three quick questions for you. 609 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 14: I'll try to do this quickly. Number One, I'm driving 610 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 14: to Cincinnati currently. I know you know the area, so 611 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 14: I was curious for some beer restaurant or brewery suggestions 612 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 14: while my friend gets off work. Two I'm going to 613 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 14: the Cincinnati Open, So I'm curious about your favorite tennis 614 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 14: player that you've ever seen play live since I'll be 615 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 14: seeing Alcaraz in Center tomorrow. And last question, a little 616 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 14: and a little off top of here. Last question, Pandora 617 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 14: stat of the Day song makes me die laughing everything 618 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 14: hear it when she does the piano song version. Please 619 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 14: tell me you guys are gonna be streaming that when 620 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 14: it happens. 621 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, you'll be able to see it. It'll be 622 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: on Peacock. We're hoping Pandora will join us now. She 623 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: lives outside of Reno, and you know she has an 624 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: open invitation to come in and if she can't join 625 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: us for the show, then maybe after the show. I 626 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: want to get a piano and just have Pandora laying 627 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: across the top of the piano and singing stat of 628 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: the day. 629 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 8: Hey, we love your statu the day, stat of the data, 630 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 8: the j oh damn give us stat of the day. 631 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: All right, that's Pandora. Uh favorite tennis player I would 632 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: say McEnroe. I mean he was just he was at 633 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: the peak of his powers. Everybody loved you know, you 634 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: were seeing something great. But I got to see Connor's 635 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: and Sampress in borg uh In, so many great great 636 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: tennis But I von Lendel, Yes, Marv. 637 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 17: Would tennis be more popular here if we had better 638 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 17: American players or if the best players were American? 639 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 5: Sure? 640 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 17: Yeah, which just seems like the biggest stars like McEnroe 641 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 17: and those guys, well, when. 642 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: You had Sampress and Agacy Connors, McEnroe, I mean, there 643 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: are just so many great players. Andy Roddick's our last 644 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: he was our last great hope, but you know, and 645 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 2: he took some of the great players toe to toe. 646 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: I don't have a brew pub. Paul could probably find 647 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: one in Cincinnati. 648 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 10: The only Cincinnati beer I know and have tried is Rheingeist, 649 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 10: which is old school, great looking cans, and I know 650 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 10: they have a brewery and nice cans. 651 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think I answered all your questions. Yes, 652 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: I don't have a brew pub or anything like that 653 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, but I think Cincinnati is home to probably 654 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: the best potato chips I've ever had in my whole life. 655 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 5: Grip, Grippas, Rippos, something like that. 656 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: There's like grip some kind of like I don't know 657 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: if they're barbecue or whatever, but one time I was 658 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: driving through Ohio and in the Cincinnati area, I stopped 659 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: and got the best I think it's called Grippo's, the 660 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 2: best bag of potato chips I've ever had in my 661 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: whole life. 662 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, people talk about that. 663 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 10: Yeah, co Firm, Grippo Potato Chip Company. 664 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 5: Oh man, they are just electric. Yeah. There's also an 665 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 5: awesome ice cream place. It might be in Dayton, Ohio. 666 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 2: People come from all over for this ice cream. I'm 667 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: not an ice cream person, but people have talked about it. Yeah, 668 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 2: PAULI I mentioned this before to you. My sister went 669 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: to Miami of Ohio and we were. 670 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 5: That's just where Jenny BATCHI was. 671 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 4: Yes, it all works together. 672 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 10: We went to the Montgomery in for ribs and they 673 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 10: live up to the billing. It was outside of Cincinnati. 674 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 5: Yep, yep. 675 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 2: People come in from the rib people order the ribs 676 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 2: outside of Cincinnati. Do you see the famous ice cream 677 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 2: and uh the date? No hunting and checking. Yeah, but 678 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 2: I'm not an ice cream Even though my wife runs 679 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 2: an ice cream place. She's always going, hey, try this, 680 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 2: I go, what is it? She goes, just try it. 681 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: It's it's fig and it's mint and it's all right, 682 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 2: tastes great, honey, Yes, Pauline, I. 683 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 10: Got a couple Ritterers frozen custard. No, that's Kettering, Greaters ice. 684 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 5: Raiders, Greaters g R A E T E R s. Yeah, 685 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 5: Greaters probably German. 686 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: Yes, that's another one of those people come from all 687 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 2: over for that one. Okay, how about we take a 688 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 2: break last, go for phone calls, what we learn, what's 689 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 2: in store tomorrow? 690 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: After this, be sure to catch the live edition of 691 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six 692 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio w APP. 693 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: Davante Adams the Rams wide receiver who joined us in 694 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 2: Lake Tahoe. He was a great interview. He was on 695 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 2: the Pivot podcast and he was asked about Travis Hunter 696 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 2: playing both offense and defense. 697 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 18: I don't even think it's possible to do for real, 698 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 18: not at a high level, and then go in there. 699 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 18: It's hard enough to go cover a punt and then 700 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 18: and then be on you know, one side, you know, 701 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 18: and I didn't. 702 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 5: I haven't done it. 703 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 18: I'm not acting like I'm going to kickoff for a punt. 704 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 18: But I can see the dudes, and I know, you 705 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 18: know you you you got your guys, and you see 706 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 18: the yardage of my yardage over the over the game 707 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 18: versus somebody that starts on offense and then plays special 708 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 18: teams as well, Like, that's just a. 709 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 5: Lot of mileage, man, And I don't know how long. 710 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 18: I'm not even concerned so much if he can do 711 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 18: it over the course of a game or a season. 712 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 12: It's more like how long is. 713 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 5: His career going to be? 714 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 2: DeVante Adams of the Rams right now, Travis Hunter listed 715 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 2: as a backup cornerback but a starting wide receiver. We 716 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: just had a caller talk about the best NFL throwback 717 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: uniforms and he was citing the Tampa Bay Creamsicle uniforms, 718 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 2: and I just cautioned people that when that happened, when 719 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay and Tampa Bay was terrible back then that 720 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 2: I think you kind of partnered. Hey, that's a terrible team. 721 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: So those are terrible uniforms. How often do you have 722 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: a terrible team with great uniforms, Marvin, you are the 723 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 2: uniform police here. Terrible team, but a great uniform. 724 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 12: In my entire adult life, the Raiders. 725 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 2: The Raiders are terrible uniforms, all all bad team. 726 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they were great before. So they won super Bowls. 727 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 2: I'm talking about it team that doesn't have you know, 728 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 2: a history of Boy, they were a winning frame. Tampa 729 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 2: Bay was a that was a you know, a new team, 730 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: new expansion team, and they were terrible and then you 731 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 2: had the uniforms that went with them. Yeah, Pauline, I would. 732 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 10: Say the Patriots in the late seventies and early eighties 733 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 10: had great uniforms with the Patriots snapping on the side. 734 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 10: And then they changed and they got better as a franchise. 735 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 10: But they were cool uniforms, not great teams. 736 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, Seton, we're saying a crap team, but good uniforms. Yeah. 737 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 5: Probably a Michigan. 738 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 8: What are you doing? 739 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 12: What are you doing? 740 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 5: Dang out of nowhere? I guess, I guess Michigan. 741 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 10: Maybe. 742 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 2: How about the Seahawks when they first started. 743 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, weren't great, but the uniforms were fun. 744 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 12: They looked cool. 745 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 17: Yes, Marvin one of my favorites as a kid, even 746 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 17: though they were awful. The l A Rams, the Jerome 747 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 17: Bettish years, I love those uniforms. 748 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 5: Were they awful? I don't remember the. 749 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 17: Rams when I was a kid, Ladist generational. They were 750 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 17: always terrible. 751 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I forget how old you are. You're young 752 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: to certain people, Yeah you are. No, you're young in 753 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 2: this room. 754 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 12: You mean, but playing pick up basketball? 755 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 5: Give me the ball, they call you. 756 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 12: I was like, gosh, I am literally that guy. Okay, 757 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 12: og uh. 758 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 5: Nate and Colorado. What's on your mind? 759 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 13: Nate, good morning, gentlemen, and eight see hey your last interview, 760 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 13: he brought up the fact that ESPN purchased the rights 761 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 13: to the Red Zone broadcast. 762 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 9: I didn't realize that was something that was separate, but 763 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 9: it got me. My first thought was, Okay, ESPN just 764 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 9: bought this. Did you envision a red Zone type program 765 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 9: since they have the PNP talent for the NBA Kenny 766 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 9: Shack Irtie charls on it like a red Zone type 767 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 9: of broadcast. Did you see that coming down? The road. 768 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 2: No, not for them, because I think you want content. 769 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 2: I think you want the discussion that you have with 770 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 2: the red zone. You don't get that kind of come 771 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 2: You know, it's very quick. You're going to this and 772 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 2: then you're coming back. You're going to someplace else. You 773 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: want to see Charles in Shaq, Kenny Ernie. You want 774 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 2: them to be able to have a discussion. How about 775 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 2: this day in sports history Paul. 776 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 10: Eighteen ninety Cy Young the pitcher got his first major 777 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 10: league victory. He got five hundred and eleven in his career, 778 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 10: and of course he never won the Cy Young embarrassing 779 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 10: by him Satchel Page at forty six in nineteen fifty two, 780 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 10: oldest picture to complete a Major League baseball game. How 781 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 10: about this day in movie history? 782 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 12: Good? 783 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 10: Great, All Time Great? 784 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 9: Or eh? 785 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,839 Speaker 10: Collateral with Tom Cruise and Jamie Fox, released in two 786 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 10: thousand and four. 787 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 5: You guys are high on it. I'm not. Oh that's 788 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 5: a good movie. No, Tom's hair looks terrible. 789 00:39:59,200 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 10: It's unique. 790 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 2: I watched a few good Men last night. Damn to me, 791 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 2: More is awesome. She's great in the role. 792 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 12: I would have joined the military. 793 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 5: I would have too. I want I want to be 794 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:11,959 Speaker 5: on her wall. 795 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:13,439 Speaker 1: You do. 796 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 2: She doesn't need me on that wall. And I thought 797 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 2: I thought Jack Nicholson was great too in his role. 798 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 5: You don't like Collateral? 799 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: No, you should watch it two more times. I don't 800 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 2: think I've ever seen Collateral. Tom's got I guess gray hair. 801 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 10: Jamie Fox really good? 802 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 5: Okay, Todd, what did you learn today? 803 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 10: We're gonna get more comments about this? 804 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:39,959 Speaker 1: Todd? 805 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 17: Would you learn Andy Staples has joined All the Day 806 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,959 Speaker 17: that's in agree to take a pie to the face 807 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 17: if Notre Dame goes undefeated? 808 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 12: I like it. I like it. 809 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 2: Seat And what'd you learn today? I learned you don't 810 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 2: love Collateral because of Tom Cruise's hair. 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