WEBVTT - Ep. 527: Finding the Funny in Stuff with Jeff Foxworthy

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<v Speaker 1>joined today by Jeff Foxworthy, who I've wanted to have

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<v Speaker 1>you on for forever. We talked about it years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't I had to come to you. Look.

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<v Speaker 2>I have spent my entire life on the road. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like it was kind of a race between you and Rogan. No,

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<v Speaker 2>you won't even travel to go on Joe, Oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>won't travel. Joe's like, come, I really want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you, Come do the show. I want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about hunting, and I'm like, dude, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>fly to Austin.

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<v Speaker 1>All the way over to off. Well, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I've spent four decades on airplanes and hotel rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you. Yeah, comedy, you can't finish farm No,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I want to finish my intro. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get into what you were talking about. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope it's good. Well, here here's the problem. Problem is

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<v Speaker 1>Krinn wrote the intro okay, but on the subject to Krinn,

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<v Speaker 1>our producer Krinn, as everyone knows is Chinese and Jewish,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jeff's already got half act. That's just such a

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<v Speaker 1>weird combination. I'm not gonna tell anybody the jokes. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to ruin him. He's got half act. What

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<v Speaker 1>was the last one?

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<v Speaker 2>The only place that you can go to somebody's house

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<v Speaker 2>and eat Moushu matzabo.

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<v Speaker 1>There you see, You see where it's going. Comedian actor, author,

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<v Speaker 1>television hosts and writer. The reason I was criticizing Kren's introduction,

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<v Speaker 1>she said last night, do you think we should have

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<v Speaker 1>an introduction for Jeff? And yeah, I make one, but

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<v Speaker 1>she only put she put perhaps your greatest work last,

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<v Speaker 1>and you probably don't realize it was your greatest work,

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<v Speaker 1>which is The Incomplete Deer Hunter. Oh my god. So

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<v Speaker 1>i'd like to say. Jeff Foxworthy is the creative of

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<v Speaker 1>The Incomplete Deer Hunter and a comedian, actor, author, television

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<v Speaker 1>hosting writer. He's been nominated for a Grammy. Has a

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<v Speaker 1>book of poems for kids New York Times bestseller. Is

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<v Speaker 1>a member of the Blue Collar Comedy Tour with Larry

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<v Speaker 1>the Cable Guy, who I had no idea his name

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't Larry, did you not?

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<v Speaker 2>No, you need to get out more. You've spent way

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<v Speaker 2>too much time in the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>You were talking today about how he's played golf for

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years and never got one struck better never, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not even humanly possible. Comedy specialist on Netflix, the good

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<v Speaker 1>old days. And then of course what she has at

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<v Speaker 1>the end, The Incomplete Deer Hunter. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>add just another thing of your many funny jokes. One

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorites is in one of your records. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember which one. You're talking about the impulse too.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought of this being in here, people's impulse to

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<v Speaker 1>dress taxider me up. Yeah, well that's what you don't do.

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<v Speaker 1>And and you were commenting that sometimes people put so

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<v Speaker 1>much stuff on their deer mounths that it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>they got killed at Marty Groun. Yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They have like beads around them and sunglasses and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas time you put a little Santa hat on them.

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<v Speaker 1>But they yell a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 2>They stick a cigarette in their mouth and beads on them,

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<v Speaker 2>and dude, I laughed a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of shot them at Marty. Yeah. Uh man, let

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<v Speaker 1>me do here. Here's the thing I don't know, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I got one thing I want to talk about, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>because we do listener feedback, okay, which I'm cutting it

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<v Speaker 1>all all right, So I want to get to your

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<v Speaker 1>story that you're just talking about about how musicians got

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<v Speaker 1>it made and comedians don't. Yeah, but I want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you one thing because you might have made this mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just one I hate to exclude the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do one listener feedback, and we like

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on criticisms. Okay, excuse my pedantry. This is

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<v Speaker 1>from a guy named Alex. What's a pedantry? Uh like teachy? Okay, preachy? Right, pedantry.

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<v Speaker 1>Anytime someone starts out a letter with excuse my pedantry,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're in trouble. Excuse my pedantry. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have noticed Steve committing a pet peeve of mine that

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<v Speaker 1>seems common to most writer types, and it pains me

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<v Speaker 1>not to point it out. He has on multiple occasions,

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<v Speaker 1>most recently, in episode five fourteen, used the phrase reached

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<v Speaker 1>a crescendo to describe an apex or climax. You follow the.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I'm so glad the criticism is against you. I

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<v Speaker 2>just breathed a sigh of relief. So go so be

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<v Speaker 2>like around midnight. Yeah, it reached a crescendo of noise.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what should it be? Well, However, a crescendo is

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<v Speaker 1>a rising action. It means to increase volume. Crescendo from

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<v Speaker 1>piano quiet to forte loud. It's a musical term. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>in this example, the forte volume would be the peak

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<v Speaker 1>of intensity. It's not the crescendo. He's right, Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>inverse of crescendo would be to d crescendo. My realm

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<v Speaker 1>of expertise is only musical, but my understanding is that

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<v Speaker 1>the same holds true of the word and non musically

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<v Speaker 1>related Italian as well. Italian. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, that's what I say about me aging is

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<v Speaker 2>I have eclipsed the apex of my splendor God, which means.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that you're on the now. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get I want to get back to think you were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a minute ago and saying that you were

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<v Speaker 1>telling me before alterned the machine on. The musicians got

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<v Speaker 1>it made because the musician can have four hits, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then spend the rest of his life playing those

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<v Speaker 1>four songs, and people are gonna come out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you'd be ninety years old. They're gonna come to

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<v Speaker 2>hear those four songs. They might like your other stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're there for songs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>A comedian, it's the opposite is you know, back in

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<v Speaker 2>the day, you did a record or you did a

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<v Speaker 2>CD and you record a special and people go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that was funny. What have you got that's new? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so is a comic. It would be like a musician

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<v Speaker 2>going I'm never playing the hits again. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>go write a new album, and once I release that album,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never play that again. And that's what a comic does,

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<v Speaker 2>which is one of the most agonized. After forty one

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<v Speaker 2>years of doing stand up. It's like I did that

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<v Speaker 2>last special and I'm like, okay, yeah, starting over from camprest.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm back to the club with thirty people in

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<v Speaker 2>and no cards in my hand, going is this funny?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this funny? Is this funny? And that's how a

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<v Speaker 1>comic works. The writer David Remnick once observed he was

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<v Speaker 1>profiling Bruce Springsteen, but he observed that he was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the Rolling Stones. How a band can eventually become

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<v Speaker 1>its own cover band. Yeah, you know, but you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>Your comic can't do that now Springsteen. He can't be

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<v Speaker 1>like I just want to wait till he does the

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<v Speaker 1>one bit and then we'll go home. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they don't want to get they've heard that now.

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<v Speaker 2>But I got to meet Bruce one time, and my

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<v Speaker 2>question for him was, I said, how is a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>year old could you write lyrics like young girls sitting

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<v Speaker 2>on the hood of a dodge drinking warm beer in

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<v Speaker 2>the soft summer rain. I said, nobody twenty should be

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<v Speaker 2>able to write that, and he goes, you know, I just.

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<v Speaker 1>Wanted to be writing stuff. I wasn't going to be

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed singing thirty years later. I'm like mission a conference.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good that's a good approach.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell everywhere we're at right now, we're at my farm

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<v Speaker 2>about an hour south of Atlanta. Uh, this is my

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm not working, this is my sanctuary, this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is my happy place. I always say when I

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<v Speaker 2>go through the gate, I'm no longer Jeff Foxworthy. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just Jeff cheapest labor on the farm. I will work

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<v Speaker 2>all day long with a bag of jerky in three

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<v Speaker 2>waters and get on a tractor and happy as a clown.

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<v Speaker 1>You were telling me earlier how people are surprised. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people were surprised that that you wanted land and not

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<v Speaker 1>like Jerry Seinfeld wanted cars. Well, you observe the attractor

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<v Speaker 1>costs more than a lot of his cars. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, like when when I did my sitcom, it was

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<v Speaker 2>we film right next to Seinfeld, and so Jerry and

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<v Speaker 2>I had parking places next to each other. He had

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<v Speaker 2>like an aircraft hanger full of Porsches, so every day

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<v Speaker 2>he'd come in with a different Porsche. I had a

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<v Speaker 2>pickup truck. I literally went to Beverly Hills Dodge and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I want one of the new Ram trucks.

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<v Speaker 2>And the guy goes to drive. He goes to, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't sell those here. I had to go out somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>from so I would pull into it with my pickup

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<v Speaker 2>truck in the spot, and Jerry would wheel in with

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<v Speaker 2>his porch and get out and go, good morning, loser,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the dude in the pickup truck. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I mean, that wasn't my thing. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>care about car. I want a car, guy. I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>a farm. I wanted to land, and so that's where

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<v Speaker 2>my car money. But I did tell Jerry, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you really need to come film an episode of comedians

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<v Speaker 2>drinking coffee and tractors, because some of my tractors cost

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<v Speaker 2>more than your porsches.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, have you comedians getting beer and tracks? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I think he would love a tractor or a bulldozer

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<v Speaker 2>and just fill the joy of pushing a tree over

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<v Speaker 2>or something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how did uh you have a property because

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<v Speaker 1>you like the hunt? Yeah, it's beautifully managed. You managed

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<v Speaker 1>as a wildlife. It's like you manage for wildlife, deer

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, but you managed for wildlife when you were

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<v Speaker 1>growing up. What was your what was your understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>deer hunting spots? Like what kind of ground did you

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<v Speaker 1>guys hunt as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's funny like growing up in Georgia, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have deer when I was a kid. We but you

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<v Speaker 2>squirrel hunted, You quail hunted, your rabbit hunted, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was usually on some relatives farm. Everybody had small farms

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<v Speaker 2>back then, so and my dad didn't have a bird dog,

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<v Speaker 2>so he would buy me briar bridges and then go, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>get down there and walk through there, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>the dog.

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<v Speaker 1>I flushed. What'd your dad do for a living?

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<v Speaker 2>My dad grew up on a farm, but he worked

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<v Speaker 2>at IBM. He did, yeah, he had he was a

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<v Speaker 2>smart dude. But we'd go back to these little farms

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<v Speaker 2>and that's how I learned to hunt. Was like I

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<v Speaker 2>remember being four or five years old and going squirrel

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<v Speaker 2>hunt and learn it. And you got to sit still,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't talk, you can't move, and then it was

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<v Speaker 2>quail hunting. Then it was dove hunting, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>became deer hunting. I hunted by the time I was

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<v Speaker 2>a teenager in Georgia. I hunted two years before I

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<v Speaker 2>saw a deer. Now that was Jeddicart deer two years

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<v Speaker 2>before he saw a deer. Yeah, getting up every weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>going through the motions, getting up Saturday morning, Saturday evening,

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday morning, never saw a deer. And it took me,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, three years, and I finally shot a little

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<v Speaker 2>five point buck, which I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one he showed me. Well, no, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the second one.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the eight point buck, which had a basket

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<v Speaker 2>wrack like this that I literally I think I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>clean it for three days. I kept driving it through

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<v Speaker 2>town because I was pretty sure it was the state record,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wanted everybody to say I saw it. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw it on the tail gate of his truck.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>But you only know what you know. I knew nothing

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<v Speaker 2>about deer hunting. I would I would go like behind

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<v Speaker 2>grocery stores and get palettes, and go to construction sites

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<v Speaker 2>and get two by fours and I would make my

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<v Speaker 2>own stands. I'd get like railroad spikes and go up

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<v Speaker 2>a tree with two by fours and put a palette

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<v Speaker 2>up there, and never thought about the wind, never thought

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<v Speaker 2>about is there a food source or a bedding probably,

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<v Speaker 2>never thought about the safety was no safety, harness, no,

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<v Speaker 2>but never thought about any of that stuff, and climb

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<v Speaker 2>up and you know, after three years one of the

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<v Speaker 2>steps would rote and you'd drop. I mean, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>wonder we're still here. But I knew I loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I loved being out in the woods by myself,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of crazy because like on my dad's farm,

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<v Speaker 2>me and two friends would leave in the morning with

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty two and a twelve game shotgun and take

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<v Speaker 2>off through the woods. We had no cel phone, nobody knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Where we were. We didn't know where we were were.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we just go explore the woods and ended

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<v Speaker 2>up on a road and walked back home. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was just a totally different time.

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<v Speaker 1>I've told you a couple of times today that I

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea that here in Georgia, you guys, deer

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<v Speaker 1>numbers were so bad that they actually brought in deer

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<v Speaker 1>they had to restop. Yeah, I mean there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of areas where it got bad. But I just was

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<v Speaker 1>not aware that they had to do like that, they

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<v Speaker 1>had to do a white tailed deer reintroduction in Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and did it during the fifties. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>I told you as a kid, Yeah, never saw a deer.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're lucky here at the farm because most of

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<v Speaker 2>the deer they brought into Georgia they brought from Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>In our particular area, they came down from Wisconsin, so

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<v Speaker 2>our deer were kind of bigger horned and bigger bodied,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just a real good portion of the state.

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<v Speaker 1>To hont end. When you were little, what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you've done a lot of comedy about hunting and sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like parodies on hunting. When you were little, you

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<v Speaker 1>were you aware of any kind of like hunting videos

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like were you going out and buying VHS

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<v Speaker 1>tapes the instructional hunting content?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, I had no idea. So when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>I would save my allowance and I would buy comedy

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<v Speaker 2>records Bill Cosby, Flip Wilson, Jerry Klower, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd memorize them and I'd go to school and I

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<v Speaker 2>could do the whole album, and so, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was the funny kid. But I never, you know, hunting

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<v Speaker 2>was hunting. And I remember the first time I was

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<v Speaker 2>probably thirty, that I saw a real tree hunting video,

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<v Speaker 2>a deer hunting video, and I'm like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>people other people can experience deer hunting. Of course, it

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<v Speaker 2>was way bigger deer than I ever had seen, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>But but it kind of led to in you mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>this in the intro part of hunting. There's that solitary

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<v Speaker 2>part that's really good, but there's also that communal part

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<v Speaker 2>that you get in a deer camp, not when you're

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<v Speaker 2>out actually hunting, but in the camp where it's a

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<v Speaker 2>very social thing and there's a lot of laughter going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I thought, well, if guys are watching videos

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<v Speaker 2>of hunts, why wouldn't they watch funny videos too, And

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<v Speaker 2>so I came up with the Incomplete Deer Hunter. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>asked me a while back, they said, who did you

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<v Speaker 2>write those? I went, right, yeah, No, we were in

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<v Speaker 2>the woods with deer suits. We had made going what

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<v Speaker 2>if we do this, this and this? But I thought

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<v Speaker 2>and it was it was a crazy idea. We sold

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<v Speaker 2>millions of those.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like, maybe you didn't write them, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you know, this is the thing I

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask about. Anyways, this is the there's like

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<v Speaker 1>laughing at your culture from the inside and laughing from

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<v Speaker 1>the outside. And this is something you know intimately. Well, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>your whole expertise is laughing from the inside.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll give you a great example. Like, so you

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<v Speaker 2>grew up in Michigan, right, And so I was the

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<v Speaker 2>kid when I started comedy. I wore jeans, I wore boots,

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<v Speaker 2>I drove a truck, and I was I was just

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<v Speaker 2>the outdoor kid. But I'm the comedian now in the

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<v Speaker 2>clubs and I'm up in Michigan and it was like

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<v Speaker 2>November and I'm like, man, I ought to be sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in a tree in the morning. You know, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the road. I need to be in a tree.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were kidding me. I was playing right outside Detroit,

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<v Speaker 2>little town called Lavonia.

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<v Speaker 1>And.

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<v Speaker 2>We were sitting around and they were going fox for

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<v Speaker 2>of you nothing but an old redneck from Georgia. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the club that we were playing in was attached to

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<v Speaker 2>a bowling alley that had parking. And I said, if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't think you have read Nicks in Michigan. Go

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<v Speaker 2>look out the window. People are valet parking at the

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<v Speaker 2>Bowling Alley. And I went back to the hotel that night,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't think it was going to be a hook.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think it was going to be a book

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<v Speaker 2>or t shirts. I just thought, maybe this is funny material.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wrote ten ways how to tell how you

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<v Speaker 2>might be a Redneck? And I went back the next

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<v Speaker 2>night and just try to stand up. And not only

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<v Speaker 2>were people laughing, they were pointing at each other. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>every one of them was things my family had done.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if your front porch collapses and kills more

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<v Speaker 2>than three dogs, that was my uncle Bob's house. When

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<v Speaker 2>you pulled up in the driveway, the whole bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>the house just erupted with dogs. If you have a

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<v Speaker 2>complete set of salad bowls and they all say cool

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<v Speaker 2>whip off the side, that's my sister. It's nothing but buttertubs,

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<v Speaker 2>cool whip dubs, and jelly glasses. So I wasn't laughing

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<v Speaker 2>at somebody, I'm laughing with, you know, And that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of always spend my comedy. My My template is is

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like if if I think something or my

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<v Speaker 2>wife says something, or my family does something. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>trust other people are thinking you're saying and doing the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That that that that the one it works is because

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<v Speaker 1>there's an expertise of the subject matter, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like laugh about your incomplete deer hunter thing is

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<v Speaker 1>when you guys have the deer suits on and the

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<v Speaker 1>deer kind of like coaching all the other deer about

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<v Speaker 1>coach fucking coaching. Yeah, like this year's game plan, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's like very sort of like specific references the coach

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<v Speaker 1>is telling the other deer. He's like when all you

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<v Speaker 1>does and little bucks come out in the field, don't

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<v Speaker 1>look back when I come out in the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just tell them I'm coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that was all experienced. Oh yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. It's like you're like you're watching it, like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>these dudes actually hunt, because no one would ever, like ever,

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<v Speaker 1>if I the outsider was goofing on redneggs, a goofing

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<v Speaker 1>on deer hunters, they would never know that little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of body language. Yeah, where a hunter's like there's something

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<v Speaker 1>in the wood still because those deer keep looking back

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<v Speaker 1>in there.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I tell young comics, I said, talk

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<v Speaker 2>about what you know about uh huh uh. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>when I wrote ten redneck jokes, I thought, well, if

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<v Speaker 2>I write ten, kind of write fifty. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>wrote fifty, I might kind of write a hundred. And

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<v Speaker 2>I got like three hundred of them. I sent them

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<v Speaker 2>to fourteen different publishers and got rejected, Well you did, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>rejected by the first fourteen. And I sent it to

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<v Speaker 2>the fifteen and he called me and he said, come in,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk. And he said, he said, I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is funny. He said, how does fifteen hundred dollars set Steve?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was asking me for fifteen hundred bucks,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I'm like, uh, because I didn't have fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred bucks. And he goes, no, no, no, we'll pay you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, hell, yeah, let's do it, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>I remember asking him, I said, how many of these

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<v Speaker 2>you think we'll sell? How many books? And he said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I bet we sell five thousand of them. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we sold four million of them. You know, because who

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<v Speaker 2>was the publisher Longstreet Press, but small publisher in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>But but from doing comedy, I'd been to all fifty states.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't hang in LA in New York. I was

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<v Speaker 2>going everywhere in between, and I knew LA and New

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<v Speaker 2>York were the media centers, but I also came to

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<v Speaker 2>know the people living in the country, and from what

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<v Speaker 2>I observed, I'm like, you know, thirty minutes outside of

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<v Speaker 2>any major city, we're all the same, and we may

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<v Speaker 2>have a little different accent, but we're all hunting, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're all fishing, and we're all growing gardens, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>all you know, got that My definition of redneck is

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<v Speaker 2>glorious absence of sophistication.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, That's all it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I knew there was a market there, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why we did the Blue Collar Comedy Tour. When they

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<v Speaker 2>did the Kings of Comedy, Atlanta was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>first stops, and in the paper, in an article about it,

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<v Speaker 2>it said that it was a show for the urban

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<v Speaker 2>hip audience. And I thought, I've been to every stake.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of people that aren't irving, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>not hip. And I called building Ball and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to do a show for everybody that this

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't apply to. And he laughed and said, what would

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<v Speaker 2>you call it? And I'm like, hell, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>call it the blue collar, blue Collar Comedy Tour, and

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<v Speaker 2>we were going to do it for three weeks, and

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<v Speaker 2>we did it the first one for three years.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was just it just hit an irve.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you always planned? Have you always when you're touring

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<v Speaker 1>and doing all those shows and all that, were you

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<v Speaker 1>always trying to schedule around being able to hunt and

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<v Speaker 1>fish and stuff? Well? Did you sometimes just have to

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<v Speaker 1>eat it and be like, I'm not going to do

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<v Speaker 1>anything outdoors because I'm going to like, while the fire's

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<v Speaker 1>burning hot, I'm just going to go do my business.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, back in the club day, because most clubs were

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<v Speaker 2>like Tuesday through Sunday, I had eight years in a row.

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I did five hundred shows a year at least. And

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<v Speaker 2>you're going, whether there's only three hundred and sixty five nuts,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're doing two shows on Friday night, three shows

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday night. If you were in a you might

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<v Speaker 2>be bouncing from club to club, and I would just

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<v Speaker 2>keep note because I wanted I wanted to be on

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny Carson, and I thought, the only way I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to do this is kind of the Malcolm Gladwell theory.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to do it ten thousand times to become

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<v Speaker 2>an expert at it. And my goal was everybody said,

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<v Speaker 2>it takes you ten years to be a good enough

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<v Speaker 2>comedian to be on Carson, and I thought, I'll do

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<v Speaker 2>it in half. I'm going to work so hard night. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it actually took me five years and two months,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did it, And so then I didn't I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do anything but do comedy. But then once I

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<v Speaker 2>started moving from cl to like theaters and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say a club, that's one hundred people, two

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>hundred people, hundred people, two hundred people, and when you

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<v Speaker 1>say a theater, it's one thousand and three thousand, Yeah.

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Up to four or five thousand. But the great thing

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<v Speaker 2>about theaters and that kind of happened because of the albums.

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<v Speaker 2>People became aware of you, and then they would they

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<v Speaker 2>would come. Well, theaters were more Friday and Saturday, which

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<v Speaker 2>was great because it was about the time I had kids,

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:31.280
<v Speaker 2>so I could be home during the week and I

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 2>was just going on the weekend doing shows. Then I

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 2>could start to get back into hunting and fishing. Fact,

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 2>when I did are You Smarter than the fifth Grader?

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 2>I had it in my contract that I could film

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<v Speaker 2>eleven months of the year, but I couldn't film the

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<v Speaker 2>month of November. And I had an LA attorney come

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<v Speaker 2>up to me and say why, I don't understand. Why

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 2>can't you film in November? And I said because it's

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 2>the rut? And he was like, the what the what?

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, dude, it's the rut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not hunting.

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not filming during the rut. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be home. And so I may be the only

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:09.400
<v Speaker 2>idiot in LA that had that in there?

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Has that in there? Do you ever try to go hit?

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Do you ever try to go somewhere and to be

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:15.159
<v Speaker 1>trying to get out in the morning with people you

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<v Speaker 1>know and hit little things like hit the morning Turkey

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Hunt and then make it too ye show.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just always hard because you couldn't travel with

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 2>guns and you know, and like back in the day,

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:31.120
<v Speaker 2>you do a show on Friday night, Well you walk

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 2>off stage, say you were in Michigan. Where you're the

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 2>next night you may be in Kansas City. So you're

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<v Speaker 2>up at five am to catch the first flight to

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<v Speaker 2>fly to Kansas City, which you get there at ten

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 2>or eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, your day's kind of shot. So it was just hard.

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I know that feeling. You know how you would do

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred shows a year, yeah, do you maybe six

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<v Speaker 1>to eight? Yeah, And so I have a level of

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>expertise here, bute, And I know that even then, you

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:58.400
<v Speaker 1>always like, as you're planning it, you're thinking about, man,

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna hunt turkeys and every one of the locations.

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you just never have the time to do it.

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 2>And yours were different. Like when I watch your shows,

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 2>Like for me, I told my wife, I said, you

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 2>love to travel because when you get somewhere, you open

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 2>your suitcase and you open it for a week. I said,

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm opening my suitcase every day and packing it back

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 2>up because you're in a different city every night. And

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 2>but like with your shows, when you're going to these

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 2>remote places, Hell, you're going to sheep Hunch, You're going

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 2>two weeks.

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh that kind of show. Yeah, I was referring to

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 1>doing like doing live shows, which are a very small

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>handful of Oh no, it's uh, your trips were long,

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 1>drong trips. Yeah, you really get like a doing that

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:45.679
<v Speaker 1>kind of doing that kind of lifestyle, especially when were

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>making a lot of shows. Man, you get like a

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 1>really deep immersion into a lot of different spots, which

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 1>is just completely like not at all similar to what

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about with like the turn and burn and

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>cans of Yeah, did you did you start to formulate

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 1>an idea of at what point in your life did

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>you start thinking that at some point I'm going to

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 1>slow down and enjoy myself more and what will that

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>look like? Like? When did you indulge yourself with that,

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, with that vision? Because I look now, I

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like you got I think when I'm here like

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>mens Guy's got it meet, I know.

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 2>But I'm like last weekend in the woods, and last

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 2>weekend I was in Michigan on Friday night, Minnesota on

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Saturday night. So I still I still enjoy what I do,

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 2>but I've slowed down. I mean I probably do forty

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 2>or fifty concerts a year now as opposed to hundreds

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 2>because I want to enjoy my grandkids. Yeah, you know,

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 2>yesterday I'm riding around on tractors and skit steers with

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 2>my two and a half year old grandson. That's that's

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 2>my joy in life. That's why I always said I

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to live to work and wanted to work

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:05.480
<v Speaker 2>to live Unfortunately, I was born with a work with

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 2>a work ethic.

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>You know. I uh, I don't want to sit around.

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 2>My mom's like, you need to slow down. I said,

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 2>I just wasn't born with that brain. I can't just

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 2>sit on the couch. I want to go do something.

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I want to go see something, learn something.

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Did your uh did your folks think you were crazy

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>for what you wanted to do? Yeah, well they did.

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>They try to discourage you, like, he'll never do that.

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, well, I blew up.

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 2>My folks divorced early, so my dad had a really

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 2>good job working at IBM. But my granddad was a fireman.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say early, how old are you like eight

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>or nine? H oh, well did you understand what was

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>going on? Well? Back I was the only kid I

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>knew that had divorced parents. It was.

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 2>You know that it sucked because you know, I wanted

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>my dad there. But I love my grandparents and my granddad,

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 2>bless his heart, was a fireman. So he worked one

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 2>day and had too often he was fishing the two

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 2>he was off and he would take me got you know,

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 2>great granddad, which was one of my goals in life.

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I want to be a really good granddad.

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 2>But everybody I knew they were blue collar, they worked

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 2>for a living. So even though I was attracted to comedy,

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 2>it never occurred to me that that was a possibility. Yeah,

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:35.959
<v Speaker 2>you probably hadn't met a comic. No, they were just

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 2>on TV. But I was the funny guy. I actually

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 2>I worked in a grocery store, and I worked at

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 2>a hotel, and then I got a job I think

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 2>my dad, because I flunked out of college after three years.

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I think my dad thought I was going to end

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 2>up being a near do well, so I think he

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 2>got one of his friends to call and give me

0:30:56.320 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 2>a job at IBM entry level. I was working dispatch,

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 2>and then later on I was I carried a toolbag

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and fixed machines. But I was the funny guy work.

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I was the guy that was in the break room

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 2>doing impersonations of the boss, and then you would turn around,

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 2>the boss would be in the doorway.

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I was that guy.

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 2>So I wasn't on the crescendo to be to the top.

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 2>And a bunch of guys I worked with entered me

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 2>in a comedy competition, not an amateur night, a competition

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 2>for working comedians called the Great Southeastern laugh Off. They

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 2>entered me in and I'm like, oh crap, I got

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 2>to write material. So I wrote five minutes about my family.

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 2>I went down. I won the contest. The first time

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>was the material. It was why I lived in Sarasota, Florida,

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 2>and I talked about it being it was God's waiting

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 2>room because everybody there was like ninety years old. Then

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 2>I did a bit about dads when everybody else cuts

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 2>their toenails. They put him in the trash dad's sleeve.

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Theres in the ashtray in the den for the whole

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 2>family to come observe and admire. And the crazy thing

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 2>is my wife used to act, and she had just

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 2>done a TV show with a comedian and she was

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 2>there that night rooting for him in the competition. So

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I met my career and I met my wife five

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 2>minutes apart.

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>He stole his fan. Yeah, were they romantically involved now? Now?

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 2>In fact, he's He and his wife are two of

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 2>our best friends to this day. But what's the odds

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 2>of finding your career and your wife five minutes apart,

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 2>same night? I guess low, Yeah, low, And but I knew, Oh,

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 2>I take that back.

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>A little bit because when I sold my first book,

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>I went I had never been to New York. Sold

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 1>my first book, went to have a meeting. I sold

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>to Miermax prior to those fellas Bob and Harvey Einstein,

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I have sold their company. Flew to New York to

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>meet the people that bought my book, and in that

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 1>meeting met my wife. Did you not from New York?

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Did you know when you met her? Did you? Did you?

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Because I know so. I met my wife on a

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Tuesday night. We went out on a Saturday, and an

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 2>hour into the date, I went, oh, crap, I'm gonna

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 2>marry this girl.

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh really? An hour into the first.

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Date and she was the only one that was saying

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 2>to me, you could do this. She said to me,

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 2>she said, you are so creative. If you sit in

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>a cubicle the rest of your life, you're going to

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 2>have a miserable life. You're going to explode. You need

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 2>to do something creative. Is your wife rednick?

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>No, she's from New Orleans. Does that make you out

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>a redneck? I understand.

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>No, They've got a lot of them down there, But like,

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 2>instead of.

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Because in my mind, I think I don't think of

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 1>that as incompatiby.

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 2>No, they're very compatible because she has family in other

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 2>parts of the Louisiana that will eat things the FBI

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 2>can't identify. I mean, it's just but I think she

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 2>really thought she was going to pull me up to

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 2>her level and instead I.

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Just drown drug her down to the middle.

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 2>But but she it was like the first person that

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:23.920
<v Speaker 2>got me, you know what I mean, She's just like

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.919
<v Speaker 2>And so I thought how I could do this? And

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:33.320
<v Speaker 2>so I quit my job and I tell my kids,

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm like that. At that point, well I went. I

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 2>did Amateur Night for like six months and little gigs

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 2>around town, but I knew by then I loved it.

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 1>And what was the first money you were making at it?

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, not like, I mean, what was the first

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 1>like helpful, usable amount of money.

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 2>So December the fourth, nineteen eighty four, they had Amateur

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Knight before the regular show. Steven Wright, it's the headliner,

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:03.800
<v Speaker 2>and he found me in the club. He had watched

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Hammate Night and he came up and he told me,

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>he said, you need to be doing this. You should

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>be a comic, and which kind of reinforced what my

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 2>wife said. And so I went in the next day,

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:19.359
<v Speaker 2>and I told my boss, I'm like, I'm quitting IBM.

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 2>And my mother when I told my mother I had quit.

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 1>That's our first question was asked about your parents' perception.

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got there eventually. My mom's first question was,

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 2>are you on the dope. I'm not sure what thud

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 2>dope was. Are you on the dope? We can get

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 2>you help? And I'm like no, I said, but I

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 2>think I can do this, and I don't want to

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 2>be sitting around when I'm sixty going what if I'd

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 2>try that? And I tell my kids, I said, you

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 2>need some hold your nose and jump moments in your life.

0:35:55.800 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 2>And so my first real gig was New Year's Eve

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 2>of eighty four with Sindbad and so I think I

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:10.439
<v Speaker 2>was making it out. That was what year eighty four,

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 2>So I think I was making like thirty two grand

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:16.880
<v Speaker 2>a year at IBM, and I had health and dental insurance.

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 2>My first year of comedy eighty five, first full year,

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I did four hundred and six shows and I made

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 2>eight three hundred dollars for the year, which is like

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty bucks a show.

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.879
<v Speaker 1>So at that point, man, you've given Like at that point,

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>at that volume, you've really given up a lot of

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 1>normal life.

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, yeah, yeah, you're not doing anything. When I

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 2>would go out to do the week at the comedy club,

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 2>my wife would give me thirty bucks to live on

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.240
<v Speaker 2>for the week, and that was gas money and food money,

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 2>and you were hoping the club gave you a free meal.

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>If a club served food.

0:36:57.239 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 2>A lot of times the comics could eat. We used

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 2>to roll pennies and when we had enough, we'd go.

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 1>To the movies. That was our dates.

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Really you lived like that, Oh yeah, dude, with no money,

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 2>so broke. I left Atlanta. One time I had a

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 2>gig at a comedy club that was in a holiday

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 2>inn in Sarasota, Florida. I drove down there, and when

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I got there, the guy said.

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Well did you say that? Where was the gig?

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Sarasota, Florida, But in a holiday in. They're a little

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 2>nightclub there, and but the deal was they gave you

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 2>a hotel room for the week while you did this.

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 2>And when I got there, the guy said, dude, he said,

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 2>last night was our last night. We're not making money.

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:43.880
<v Speaker 2>We closed And I'm like, so you're out of business?

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Why just driven nine hours? I went in the lobby

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 2>bathroom and pee and bought a coke and got back

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 2>in the car. So I've driven nine hours and now

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:57.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm turning around driving back home. But I haven't got paid.

0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a credit card, and I'm like, God,

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I hope I got enough money to get home for gas.

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 2>And I stopped making Georgia at about three in the morning,

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 2>and I'm digging for change underneath the car seat. You know, Oh,

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 2>we got forty cents. Let me put that in gas

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 2>in the car. And I got to South Atlanta, where

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:19.799
<v Speaker 2>I grew up. In the red lights on I'm like,

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to make it home. So I pull

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 2>off the interstate into a gas station and I'm trying

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 2>to figure out I don't even have a quarter to

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 2>call my wife. And a guy I went to high

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 2>school with pulled up to get gas and I went

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 2>over to him and I said, dude, I'm so embarrassed,

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 2>but I left home this morning without my wallet. I

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to tell him I was that broke. I said,

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 2>can I borrow five bucks? He's like, yeah, oh, hell yeah.

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 2>So I got home. Years later, he came to my

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:50.839
<v Speaker 2>concert and he goes I remember loading you and I said, dude,

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 2>I was so broke.

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:53.399
<v Speaker 1>I had no money to get home. I said, let

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>me pay you back.

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, nope, I want you to owe it

0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 2>to me because it's a much better story.

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and some of it still hasn't. It still hasn't

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 1>paid me back. That's that's that's incredible though, that you

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 1>went through all that. I mean, it's great that but

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:13.359
<v Speaker 1>looking back, yeah, it's it was good. It made oh

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:16.359
<v Speaker 1>I think it made me important man better. I had

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>a hunger to get better at it, you know. You

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 1>know people say that comics have like a there's like

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:26.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the more chase and a it's got

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>to be fueled somewhere, right. Yeah. I always there's like

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>a there's like some sort of demon that needs to

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>be slay, you know, or else you're not funny, you

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like like if everything's just gravy

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 1>all the time, you don't get a chance to be funny. Yeah.

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:46.720
<v Speaker 2>I always heard there they're laughing on the outside, crying

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:49.760
<v Speaker 2>on the ends. Sure, but I think it's like human beings,

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 2>we're we're all different. I think I was probably affected

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 2>by my dad leaving because I could make my dad

0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:02.399
<v Speaker 2>laugh when I saw him. Well, that was approval God.

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 2>So it probably made me work at being funnier. But

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I was wired this way. I came from a funny family.

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I was wired creative. Part of the reason that I

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 2>flunked out of college was I was going to Georgia Tech,

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 2>which was an engineering school, and that wasn't my strength.

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I remember taking an English class there and writing a

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 2>story about deer hunting, and the English teacher goes, have

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 2>you ever thought about being a writer. Maybe you're not

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 2>an engineer, Maybe you should be a writer. I remember

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 2>being in high school and I had no money to

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 2>buy my girlfriend a birthday present. I saw there was

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:41.919
<v Speaker 2>a speech contest at the Elks Lodge that paid fifty bucks.

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I wrote a.

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Speech, went down there and won. You know, I had

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 2>taken my girlfriend the red lobster. Maybe here we go.

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>So what happened with flunking out of college.

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I was at the wrong place. It wasn't my gift,

0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I didn't know what my gift was.

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 2>But from where I stand now, like God made me

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 2>this way, I see the funny in things. It doesn't

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 2>mean that I don't get mad or I don't get sad,

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 2>but I always look for the funny in it, and

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I do believe it's a gift. And I think I'm

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:26.840
<v Speaker 2>a writer. In any great comic is a writer. You

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>just have to have that brain and you're a writer.

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 2>We don't do it necessarily because it's fun. It ain't fun.

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't enjoy it. I don't enjoy the act.

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:40.359
<v Speaker 1>If you have a hard time with that, doing it

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 1>is not like doing It's not fun. There's a writer,

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Ian Frasier, and he said, when he was little, he

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 1>pictured being a writer. He pictured writers sitting there and

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:52.400
<v Speaker 1>they're typing and they're kind of chuckling to themselves, you know.

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>And then only later do you realize that it's just

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:58.280
<v Speaker 1>like it's just doing it is not enjoyable.

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:01.359
<v Speaker 2>It's not enjoy the menu. You stand up the men,

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 2>you stand up finished product. When you look back and

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 2>you go, yeah, man, now all right. Let me ask

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 2>you a question, because I actually asked Bruce Springsteen this,

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:13.919
<v Speaker 2>Like I have a pad next to my bed. I've

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 2>had it for thirty years with a pen on it,

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:19.880
<v Speaker 2>and I can write in the dark. But so because

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 2>you always think you're going to remember it, and you

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:26.080
<v Speaker 2>never do so I've learned, like, rite something about as

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 2>your body's relaxing to go to sleep, ideas start coming.

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 2>And I've learned to just write a sentence where I

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 2>can remember it in the morning. But I also have

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 2>a pad next on my bathroom counter. I bet sixty

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 2>percent of the things I think of are in the shower.

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh and so I get out of the shower, and

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I actually asked, springstand and so where do you write

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 2>the most?

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh? No, I write a lot of stuff in the shower. Man.

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh really?

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, so there must be when I'm driving in

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 2>the shower and right before I'm going to bed.

0:42:56.680 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Is usually those times. There's a there's a band I

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 1>like a bit trampled by turtles. Now great name the singers.

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>This guy Dave Simonett. He's really good lyrically. And the

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 1>other night he left his uh, he accidentally left his

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 1>little notebook at my house. It's sitting on my counter

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 1>right now, and I keep wanting looking that little notebook,

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 1>but I can't bring myself to looking there. I feel

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 1>like it could be like a betrayal kind of is.

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.239
<v Speaker 1>But I'm real curious about it. For a writer, I

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.440
<v Speaker 1>have cracked it. I look at it, and I think, man,

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 1>whan I look in at that notebook? Yeah, but then

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'd be violating some kind of guest

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 1>host bond, you know, if I found it on the street, sure,

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 1>but he left it my house. See that's why we

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 1>don't crack it open. We just look at it.

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I was interested in doing this with you because you're

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 2>a weird combo in that you're very capable, but you're creative,

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 2>which are not usually like most really creatives I know

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 2>can't tie their sh u, can't fill up their gas tank,

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 2>and that's kind of normal.

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:06.240
<v Speaker 1>I had a dad that pounded all that India.

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he didn't give a lick about the creative No,

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:11.439
<v Speaker 2>mine didn't either, But it was like.

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 1>He wrote something. It was on a it was on

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 1>graph paper, yeah, or on a two by four. You know.

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 1>That's uh.

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:22.920
<v Speaker 2>But I think you and I are have that in common,

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 2>is we're capable, but we're creative as well. Rogan's like that,

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 2>So it's a weird mix, uh, which because I'm kind

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 2>of fascinated by the writer side of you. I saw

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 2>where Steve Martin won a writing award and he said,

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 2>this means more to me than anything goes.

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Writing's hard, yeah, And I'm like, dude, I get it.

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:47.839
<v Speaker 1>You know it's well yeah, because you guys get like

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 1>like comics, you get known for the performative part, but

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>prior to the performative parts, the writing part. Do you

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 1>know what a writer's minds? It's kind of the end

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:56.760
<v Speaker 1>of it. You're a writer.

0:44:57.040 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 2>It's funny because I'm kind of a physical comic and

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 2>people will ask me, do you practice in front of

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 2>a mirror?

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 1>No? I never think about the performance. Do you ever

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:11.400
<v Speaker 1>have to watch yourself? I hate to watch myself. You

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:12.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know what you look like. I cringe.

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 2>Like when I used to do Johnny Carson and you'd

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 2>film it like at four or five in the afternoon,

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:23.359
<v Speaker 2>and you'd come home and it would come on. I'd

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 2>watch the whole show until I came home. Then I'd

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:28.440
<v Speaker 2>get up and leave the room because I hate the

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:30.359
<v Speaker 2>way I talk, I hate the way I look. I did,

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:32.879
<v Speaker 2>and my wife would be in the other room, going,

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 2>it's really good, come watch it, and I'm like, no,

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I can't.

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't. You hate the way you look? What do

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 1>you wish you look like? Now? I don't know? Something different?

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but uh, with comedy. It was always the writing,

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:52.239
<v Speaker 2>and you know, and it's kind of like, I know,

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 2>when you do it well that the audience thinks, oh

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:56.399
<v Speaker 2>he just walked out here and.

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Just thought of this.

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, but I know, I remember when I was

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 2>still doing amateur nights. Lena was always so nice to

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 2>young comics.

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Was he very patient.

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 2>And we're sitting at the waffle house and he said,

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 2>your goal should be to write one new minute a week. Now,

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:18.200
<v Speaker 2>think about that. Your goal should be to write one

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 2>new minute a week because you're special every year, And

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 2>well it does. And in my mind, I'm thinking, are

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:26.360
<v Speaker 2>you out of your mind? I can write twenty or

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes a week.

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:28.359
<v Speaker 1>No, he was right.

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 2>If you can write one minute that a room full

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 2>of strangers are going to laugh at every time you

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:38.439
<v Speaker 2>say it. Over the course of a year, you've got

0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:40.799
<v Speaker 2>a new you've got a new album, you've got a

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 2>new special, you know, whatever it is. And but that

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:50.279
<v Speaker 2>wasn't easy. I mean, you had to be working to

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 2>get sixty new minutes a year, which was always so

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:56.120
<v Speaker 2>sad because you do a special on crap. All that

0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 2>work now got to start all.

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Over, walk me through and the flow of the flow

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>of an idea if you don't practice front of a mirror,

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>so you get like an observation that like your wife's

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 1>butts cold when she climbs in bed, Yeah, how her

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 1>bucket cold? Yeah. You drive around and your tract or whatever,

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and you think about that and you think that's funny.

0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:27.400
<v Speaker 1>You never going in the gate like that. It just

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:28.799
<v Speaker 1>lives in your head. Then you try it out like

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 1>you never do, like, hey, film me talking about this.

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 2>It's like it starts with a with a thought, and

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:39.839
<v Speaker 2>then I'm like, like if I thought of something when

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 2>maybe I think this is funny, like and you and

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I were having a conversation, I'd figure out a way

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 2>to work it into the conversation and to see and

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:50.800
<v Speaker 2>if you laughed, I went, Okay, that's a valid thought.

0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:52.839
<v Speaker 1>And then so you try it out like you try

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 1>it out in your buddies on them knowing it. Yeah.

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:58.720
<v Speaker 2>And then so in the early days, I always envisioned

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 2>it like Clay. I would go out there and throw

0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:04.759
<v Speaker 2>an idea out, say it's five sentences and three of

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 2>them worked, So I'd keep the three that worked, get

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 2>rid of the two that didn't, and then the next

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:11.880
<v Speaker 2>night I'd try two or three more, and so it

0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 2>was like adding a little piece of clay every night,

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:17.480
<v Speaker 2>and there, over a course of a month, you've got

0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 2>a new ten minute bit. As I've gotten older, I

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of did the opposite is I would start with

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:27.359
<v Speaker 2>a big glob and just go out there and try it,

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.680
<v Speaker 2>which I don't know why, but everything that didn't work,

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I'd cut it off and cut it off and just

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:36.400
<v Speaker 2>kept and so in the early days, my bits were

0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 2>two and three minutes long. Now they tend to be

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 2>twenty and thirty minutes long, right, really long pieces.

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 1>When you say a bit, you mean like you'll do that,

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:49.359
<v Speaker 1>You'll spend that time on a subject. Yeah, like having

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:53.520
<v Speaker 1>a kidney stone, you know. So, but you're not going

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 1>to get done with that in two minutes. No.

0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, and here's my thought. If you go to all

0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:01.319
<v Speaker 2>the trouble to set it up, which is the part

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:04.560
<v Speaker 2>you're not getting a laugh. Once you get it set up,

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:06.680
<v Speaker 2>why not go you got a harvest, big deep and

0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 2>get like Jim Gaffigan talking about bacon. You know, I'm

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:12.839
<v Speaker 2>a comic, and I'm like, how long can you talk

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:16.440
<v Speaker 2>about bacon for two or three minutes? At minute twenty

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:19.000
<v Speaker 2>of gafficking. I've got my hands in my head going,

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:21.560
<v Speaker 2>how can you talk about bacon for twenty minutes?

0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:24.719
<v Speaker 1>This is hilarious. Yeah, that's a good observation. You gotta

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:27.160
<v Speaker 1>set you gotta set the story up. Yeah, but if

0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:29.359
<v Speaker 1>you've gotten to start spinning off and then it needs

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:33.240
<v Speaker 1>to spin off jokes? Yeah, yeah? What uh? When you were?

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Not when you were? Because as you meet comics, are

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:42.359
<v Speaker 1>you guys always bound? Like do you feel that you're

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:45.920
<v Speaker 1>bound to other comics through the comedy or do you

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:49.400
<v Speaker 1>feel like the sort of political and social differences do?

0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, do you run into you when you're

0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:55.120
<v Speaker 1>doing running another comics and like, is it like you're

0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of like the redneck guy from the south and

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:00.880
<v Speaker 1>so you're ostracized or is it just the that comedy

0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:04.720
<v Speaker 1>brings your whole circle of professional colleagues together.

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:07.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think when you're starting out, it's so

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 2>competitive and everybody's trying to get a hand on the

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:13.759
<v Speaker 2>ledge that you're really cut throat with each other. And

0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:16.840
<v Speaker 2>you know the thing about the redneck jokes? They were

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:21.399
<v Speaker 2>one liners, and so we live in an age where

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:24.240
<v Speaker 2>nobody does one liners. But they were easy to remember.

0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 2>They were easy to retell you know what I mean,

0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:32.920
<v Speaker 2>And so I could do them on the radio, and

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I could do ten of them, so there's ten laughs

0:50:36.560 --> 0:50:38.880
<v Speaker 2>and people could remember them, they could repeat them. But

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:41.359
<v Speaker 2>it was a way for people to remember my name.

0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 2>But at the height of it, it was three minutes

0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 2>out of an hour and a half show.

0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:52.279
<v Speaker 1>And so for.

0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:57.880
<v Speaker 2>People that thought that was all I did, I'm like, no,

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:00.760
<v Speaker 2>you haven't watched me. Mostly what I do is material

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:03.480
<v Speaker 2>about my wife and my family and my kids. And

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.600
<v Speaker 2>but it was a way for them to remember their name.

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:12.600
<v Speaker 2>I find the longer you do it, you realize it's

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:13.760
<v Speaker 2>a wonderful job.

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:16.359
<v Speaker 1>But it's hard.

0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:22.719
<v Speaker 2>You you don't last unless you work hard at it.

0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:25.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, I love to look for arrowheads.

0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:28.360
<v Speaker 2>If I walk into guy's house and he's got a

0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:32.879
<v Speaker 2>display case full of unbroken arrowheads, I knew that took

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:36.080
<v Speaker 2>a long time. That took a long long time to

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 2>find that many unbroken era heads. The same way with

0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:41.279
<v Speaker 2>a comic, and so you can can I have a

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:42.799
<v Speaker 2>respect for each other.

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:44.239
<v Speaker 1>I want to get return this. If I want to

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 1>tell you another metric. Okay, you consider how many mountain

0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:55.200
<v Speaker 1>lions have you seen? That's a metric for time spent

0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 1>time spent messing around out How many of you seen

0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Not many? I spent a lot of time messing around

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.799
<v Speaker 1>on outside. Yeah, I think I've had I've seen six

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 1>that weren't being chased by dogs. Well that's pretty cool.

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Well I got a Boddy who spends a lot of

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:11.319
<v Speaker 1>time outside. Last time I talked to him, he was

0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:14.239
<v Speaker 1>on like thirty five or something. Oh my gosh. I

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't mean interrupt the chain of thought. I I'm know

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying. Like, I had to get back to

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:18.600
<v Speaker 1>a bow.

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:23.120
<v Speaker 2>One time and I was trailing them and h Glenn,

0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 2>my farm manager who you met, went back to get

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:30.120
<v Speaker 2>us some water and all, and so I just sat

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:33.399
<v Speaker 2>down and when he came back, he goes, dude, there's

0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 2>mountain lion tracks in your footprints. Oh yeah, and my

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:40.520
<v Speaker 2>dumb ass is sitting at the bottom of a tree

0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:41.240
<v Speaker 2>with my bow.

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:43.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a wonder. I wasn't lunch. Yeah, I

0:52:44.400 --> 0:52:45.920
<v Speaker 1>don't want to bring the chain of thought, but I

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:51.360
<v Speaker 1>was just thinking about your awareness of that collection and

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:54.360
<v Speaker 1>being like that is a lot a lot, it's a

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:56.319
<v Speaker 1>lot of work. Like you're dedicated, you're good at it.

0:52:56.360 --> 0:52:56.520
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:52:56.560 --> 0:53:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, you know, out of every thing I've done professionally,

0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 2>the thing that I'm proud of, Stob is I've sold

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 2>more comedy records than anybody that's ever lived.

0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Is that right? Yep? Crin should put that in the

0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:14.680
<v Speaker 1>damn bio. I know, nice job, Corrin.

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:34.240
<v Speaker 2>So go eat some more Moushoe Manza balls.

0:53:27.600 --> 0:53:28.479
<v Speaker 1>You had to write along?

0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:32.359
<v Speaker 2>You sold more comedy records and Cosby Carlon and Eddie

0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Murphy delirious. Yes, yeah, My first comedy records sold almost

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 2>four million copies. The second one did almost the same.

0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 2>The physical salities, yeah physical, these are album But what

0:53:47.040 --> 0:53:49.360
<v Speaker 2>that tells me is, I'll tell you what it tells me.

0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Somebody most popular ass comedian, Well, it means you were working,

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:57.839
<v Speaker 2>you were writing, Yeah, you know, And I mean I've

0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:01.880
<v Speaker 2>written like twenty seven books and invented games. I've been

0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:04.440
<v Speaker 2>very lucky to do a lot of things creatively. But

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:07.480
<v Speaker 2>out of everything, that tells me you worked at it,

0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:14.040
<v Speaker 2>you worked, which is you know, It's part of me

0:54:14.200 --> 0:54:19.520
<v Speaker 2>with hunting. I want to do it. I want to

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:24.080
<v Speaker 2>do things that aren't easy. Like when I was a kid,

0:54:24.120 --> 0:54:26.719
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to shoot a deer that had antlers.

0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:29.279
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to kill a deer, any antler, It

0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:33.120
<v Speaker 2>didn't matter. You know, that's enough, you know, yeah, yeah,

0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:35.840
<v Speaker 2>And there's cycles hunters go through. Then you want to

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:37.759
<v Speaker 2>shoot a bigger one. You want to shoot a bigger one.

0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:40.319
<v Speaker 2>But you get to a point like because I was

0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:42.240
<v Speaker 2>doing a lot of hunting shows. I was doing hunting

0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 2>shows for real tree and bucks of Takamani, and I

0:54:45.640 --> 0:54:48.000
<v Speaker 2>was getting to go places and hunt really cool things

0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 2>and shoot really big deer. And I had a year

0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:54.879
<v Speaker 2>where I shot a thirteen point deer. He's out there

0:54:54.880 --> 0:55:00.399
<v Speaker 2>in the in manland, out there, huge deer. Shot him

0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:03.400
<v Speaker 2>with a gun and three hundred and fifty yards. And

0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:05.319
<v Speaker 2>then I came back to my farm, and my farm

0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:07.319
<v Speaker 2>enginer only bow hunted, and I was starting to play

0:55:07.360 --> 0:55:11.120
<v Speaker 2>around with it. That's your buddy here, Glenn. And the

0:55:11.200 --> 0:55:15.000
<v Speaker 2>next weekend I shot one hundred and thirty eight inch deer,

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:17.600
<v Speaker 2>but he was poping young with a bow and arrow,

0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:19.799
<v Speaker 2>and I sat up there and I just shook, and

0:55:19.840 --> 0:55:23.399
<v Speaker 2>I could remember being fifteen years old, and the deer

0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I shot at three hundred and fifty yards had no

0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:28.759
<v Speaker 2>idea that I was there. I didn't really have to

0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:31.840
<v Speaker 2>be that stealth. I was a long way away, but

0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 2>the one I shot at thirty yards that was close

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:38.920
<v Speaker 2>and personal. And I remember I called my wife. I

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:42.160
<v Speaker 2>never called my wife when she's cooking dinner back at home,

0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:42.600
<v Speaker 2>and I'm.

0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh my god, I just I shot a fuck

0:55:45.400 --> 0:55:45.960
<v Speaker 1>with my boat.

0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:48.560
<v Speaker 2>And I thought, this is what I want to feel like,

0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:51.880
<v Speaker 2>this is what I want hunting to feel like. And

0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:54.680
<v Speaker 2>so I'm like, I'm not doing a gun anymore. I'm

0:55:54.719 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna hunt with a bow.

0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:57.799
<v Speaker 1>I was horrible at it.

0:55:57.880 --> 0:56:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it took me two or three year years

0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:03.920
<v Speaker 2>to even get I messed up. I kept drawing at

0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:05.799
<v Speaker 2>the wrong time, you know, so you sat there for

0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:08.520
<v Speaker 2>two hours waiting on a dough to come up, and

0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:10.640
<v Speaker 2>now you draw at the wrong time, spooker and she

0:56:10.719 --> 0:56:12.480
<v Speaker 2>runs off, and You're like, okay, I gotta wait till

0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:14.960
<v Speaker 2>her head's behind a tree. But there was something about

0:56:14.960 --> 0:56:20.040
<v Speaker 2>wanting to do it the hard way. And once I

0:56:20.200 --> 0:56:23.239
<v Speaker 2>had started being pretty good at shooting deer with it,

0:56:23.280 --> 0:56:25.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I want to go hunt an elk.

0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to, but not with a gun. I want to.

0:56:28.480 --> 0:56:30.759
<v Speaker 1>And then it was a moose, and then it was

0:56:31.680 --> 0:56:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to.

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Hunt it like I'd always kind of been fascinated with bears,

0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:38.640
<v Speaker 2>but I had zero interest in nothing wrong with somebody

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:40.279
<v Speaker 2>doing this. I didn't want to shoot one over a

0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:42.319
<v Speaker 2>barrel of doughnuts. I wanted to go find a bear

0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 2>and shoot them with my bow. Well it ended up

0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:48.200
<v Speaker 2>doing that because and I don't know if you ever

0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:51.239
<v Speaker 2>feel like this, but like I would watch videos of

0:56:51.280 --> 0:56:54.440
<v Speaker 2>people hunting moose with a bow and I kept going,

0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:59.160
<v Speaker 2>holy crap, that is so scary. I mean, like, roll

0:56:59.239 --> 0:57:02.000
<v Speaker 2>up in a ball, go oh my dude, they're so close,

0:57:02.560 --> 0:57:07.799
<v Speaker 2>They're so so big, so big. There's part of me

0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:11.279
<v Speaker 2>that goes, do you have enough balls to do this?

0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:16.120
<v Speaker 2>And I wanted to find out. I'm like, I wanted

0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:20.080
<v Speaker 2>to push myself to go, do you have enough courage

0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:22.680
<v Speaker 2>to go stand there with a stick and a string

0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:27.960
<v Speaker 2>fifteen yards from this two thousand pounds animal. And it's

0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:34.040
<v Speaker 2>funny like after doing it, because my wife's first question was,

0:57:34.120 --> 0:57:38.880
<v Speaker 2>were you scared because I shoot this big bullet fifteen yards?

0:57:40.040 --> 0:57:44.040
<v Speaker 2>And I said, in and of the moment, no, did.

0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:47.000
<v Speaker 1>You guys call that bullet? Yeah? So he was.

0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:54.640
<v Speaker 2>That's a timidating mane Oh yeah, I mean he's got

0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 2>his eyes rolled back. Well, here was the worst part.

0:57:56.920 --> 0:58:00.320
<v Speaker 2>So we're going up. We're in a john boating up

0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:02.520
<v Speaker 2>a river and I'm in the front of the boat

0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 2>looking for tracks or looking for sign and we've been

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:08.880
<v Speaker 2>in the boat for four or five hours and then

0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:13.560
<v Speaker 2>I finally saw tracks coming out and hey, he got tracked.

0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:16.919
<v Speaker 2>He went over and looked, said, it's a big bull beach.

0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:20.960
<v Speaker 2>The boat go up into some kind of vegetation. It

0:58:21.040 --> 0:58:23.440
<v Speaker 2>was about this high, kind of little red berries in there.

0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 2>And as we're just kind of standing there listening for

0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:30.919
<v Speaker 2>the bull, I look down and at my feet there

0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:35.959
<v Speaker 2>is a pile of poop with steam coming up off

0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:39.480
<v Speaker 2>of it. I mean steam is coming off. And I

0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 2>look at the guide and I go moose, and he

0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:48.240
<v Speaker 2>goes grizzly, and I'm like, okay, So there's grizzly with

0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:52.200
<v Speaker 2>steam coming off of it, which means he ain't far away.

0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:58.080
<v Speaker 2>And then and then the w and now we're now

0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:00.920
<v Speaker 2>we've got a moose coming, and I forget about the grizzly,

0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:04.840
<v Speaker 2>but and the and he's coming in to fight. He

0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 2>destroys a ten foot tree, I mean down to nothing.

0:59:09.840 --> 0:59:14.440
<v Speaker 2>He wants to fight, and and but he's kind of

0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:18.520
<v Speaker 2>hanging up at like fifteen yards because he can't see us,

0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:24.200
<v Speaker 2>and and in and of the moment, I was not scared,

0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:28.160
<v Speaker 2>and I thought, oh, I'd be petrified. My only thought

0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:30.880
<v Speaker 2>was turn so I can get a stick in you.

0:59:30.960 --> 0:59:31.240
<v Speaker 1>I need.

0:59:31.760 --> 0:59:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I need an ethical I mean, I need a shot.

0:59:35.560 --> 0:59:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I need.

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:40.600
<v Speaker 2>And it was so hyper focused on what do I

0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:43.120
<v Speaker 2>have to do to get an arrow in this? And

0:59:43.480 --> 0:59:45.760
<v Speaker 2>he finally turned to walk off, and I look, and

0:59:45.800 --> 0:59:48.120
<v Speaker 2>there's a there's a hole, and I'm so I go

0:59:48.160 --> 0:59:49.960
<v Speaker 2>to full draw and I wait till he fills the hole,

0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:53.920
<v Speaker 2>and I shoo to me, goes thirty yards and folds up.

0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:59.200
<v Speaker 2>As soon as that happens. Now I've got the dreddline

0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:01.880
<v Speaker 2>and I'm doing the stinky leg and shaking it and all.

1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:06.440
<v Speaker 2>But in the moment, I wasn't scared, and I didn't

1:00:06.520 --> 1:00:09.840
<v Speaker 2>know that about myself. I got you, and I'm like, oh,

1:00:09.880 --> 1:00:13.480
<v Speaker 2>that's cool. You didn't freeze up, you didn't turn around

1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:17.440
<v Speaker 2>and run away. You held it together. I didn't know

1:00:17.480 --> 1:00:22.000
<v Speaker 2>that about myself. Do you uh are you into bows?

1:00:22.080 --> 1:00:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Do you just go to the bow shop and be like,

1:00:23.640 --> 1:00:24.280
<v Speaker 2>get me set up?

1:00:24.320 --> 1:00:25.240
<v Speaker 1>And I want to show.

1:00:25.360 --> 1:00:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, dude, I'm like, so, I was hunting with

1:00:31.560 --> 1:00:34.360
<v Speaker 2>a Matthews for a while and I liked it, and

1:00:34.680 --> 1:00:38.200
<v Speaker 2>but then I got a psc bow that just seemed

1:00:38.200 --> 1:00:41.320
<v Speaker 2>to fit me. Like when I go in to full draw,

1:00:41.400 --> 1:00:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't it wasn't jumping on me. I could hold it,

1:00:44.440 --> 1:00:47.200
<v Speaker 2>I could draw it straight back. I've hunted with the

1:00:47.200 --> 1:00:49.480
<v Speaker 2>same boat for eight years.

1:00:49.760 --> 1:00:52.720
<v Speaker 1>You didn't. Oh, yeah, I'm not.

1:00:52.680 --> 1:00:54.920
<v Speaker 2>A junkie on anything. If I get a truck, I like,

1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:58.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't need a new truck. It's Look

1:00:58.240 --> 1:01:01.800
<v Speaker 2>at the watch I'm wearing. I mean, I've I've done

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<v Speaker 2>okay in life. I'm wearing a hundred dollars watch with

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<v Speaker 2>a broken band, you know, because it tells time. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a latest and greatest thing kind of guy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just found a bow that I liked. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I like this one. I'm gonna stick with this.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned you mentioned hunt arrowheads. What was your introduction

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<v Speaker 1>to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I had found one or two, I think as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>But Glenn, my farm manager, had looked for him his

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<v Speaker 2>whole life, and I'd go to his house and look

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<v Speaker 2>at his collection. I'm like, that's pretty cool. Well, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think becoming a bow hunter, as you start to go, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>these people, Oh these people were pretty gas.

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<v Speaker 1>You were looking at it too from a hunting perspective. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of guys that are into arrowheads

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<v Speaker 1>that don't look at it from a hunting perspective, which

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<v Speaker 1>always can comprised me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fascinated by everything they do. Like they took rocks

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<v Speaker 2>and they learned to make a knife. They learned to

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<v Speaker 2>make a projectile point, they learned to make a grinder.

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<v Speaker 2>A bowl and a grinder, let's mash up acorns or

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<v Speaker 2>corn or whatever. They were such capable people. So when

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<v Speaker 2>I look at artifacts, I'm thinking, ay, if I pick

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<v Speaker 2>it up and go, all right, I'm the first human

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<v Speaker 2>being in seven thousand years to hold this. But mostly

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<v Speaker 2>I think about there were some woman or some man

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<v Speaker 2>sitting here making this, not thinking oh this is pretty

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<v Speaker 2>or this is artistic. They're thinking I need to carve

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<v Speaker 2>up that squirrel tonight for dinner. They were making it

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<v Speaker 2>to live, and I think that's what got me kind

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<v Speaker 2>of fascinated with it. And the first trip I ever

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<v Speaker 2>went on, Glenn took me on a trip up to

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. He had a buddy that was planting strawberries, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you guys, we'll go. Every day you'll travel,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll go like on a hunting trip, but to go

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<v Speaker 1>if you get an opportunity to go. Look something like

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<v Speaker 1>I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Did a thing for wounded warriors out in Texas. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew it was going to be out there, and

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<v Speaker 2>I called a friend that was close by. I go, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you got any buddies of the arrowhead hunt? And he goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a friend that loves it. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>find out if we can go with him. So I

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<v Speaker 2>fly out there and do something good, do the Wounded

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<v Speaker 2>Warrior show.

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<v Speaker 1>They raise like a million bucks. It was cool.

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<v Speaker 2>But then the next morning we're out looking for arrowheads,

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<v Speaker 2>so try to combine them together now, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you have a lot of stuff from this property

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<v Speaker 1>you were showing me. Yeah, but I don't mean to

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<v Speaker 1>criticize it, but you even said it too. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's ugly. It's ugly, but it's ugly because of.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't have They didn't have rock to work, they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have flint. They had courts, which is very hard

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<v Speaker 2>to make thin and pretty. It was functional, but they

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<v Speaker 2>just don't make pretty arrowheads. But like, I made friends

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<v Speaker 2>in Arkansas that have beautiful flint. I made friends in

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<v Speaker 2>Texas that have beautiful flint. I have friends in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>So hell, we'll get in the car and drive to Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>If somebody says, I've got a plowfield and it's rained.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what were you mentioned? You're going where someone was

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<v Speaker 1>putting in strawberries.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so they had plowed this field and it

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<v Speaker 2>was going to rain, and they're fixing the planet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're fixing, but they hadn't planted it yet, but they

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<v Speaker 2>plowed it. But when you plow it, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>dusty and you can't really see anything. So you need

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<v Speaker 2>it to rain in a time or two. But the

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<v Speaker 2>guy said, he said, y'all better be up here in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning or the meth heads will kill it, cause

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<v Speaker 2>the meth heads will go out there and look for

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<v Speaker 2>airheads and sell them. That's my kind of meth head man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I never heard of that before.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude.

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<v Speaker 2>You can go up there. It can rain that night,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can be there at sunrise and the field

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<v Speaker 2>is covered in footprints and you're like, how is this

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<v Speaker 2>humanly possible? How do you do this? And so the

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<v Speaker 2>first place I ever went with him, i'd walked thirty

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<v Speaker 2>feet from the truck and I saw some thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was a.

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<v Speaker 1>Piece off attractor, like a spark plug. Picked it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking around. They had and pottery and things, and

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm doing it, I'm like, I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>plastic and it's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Pipe, you know. Yeah, so fine, it's because you were

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<v Speaker 1>you were when you're doing that. Like how when you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking on the ground you'll sometimes hold something in you

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of worry it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I worry it. That's great because I'm always got

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<v Speaker 2>something in my hand whatever, the most interesting things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>oh that's a cool rock. You'll walk around with it

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<v Speaker 2>in your hand. It's whirl it in your thumb.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, crap, that's not a tractor part. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a pipe. It was a stone pipe. And I go

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<v Speaker 2>over to Glenn, who's been looking for thirty years, and

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<v Speaker 2>I go, dude, look what I found. He was so

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<v Speaker 2>pissed he turned around and walked straight away from me,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't talk to me the rest of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Mmm. But then I was hooked. If you ever do

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<v Speaker 1>go do Rogan show, you should bring that pipe. Let him, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let him pull a rip, Let him pull a rip

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<v Speaker 1>off that pipe. Man, he probably get a real kick

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. Yeah, Native American. Yeah, why not, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd probably love that. So.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh how much time he's spend hunting though, Like you

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<v Speaker 2>get some time out now, Yeah, I get some time out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of weird. Like I just had a friend

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<v Speaker 2>that went to Africa, because I've been to Africa, but

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<v Speaker 2>not to hunt. Been to Africa like six times. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to do it, but I'm kind of weird. Like

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to go hunt a leopard. I have no desire.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to shoot something I'm not going to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's nothing wrong with that. I'm just this is me.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the way I'm weird. There's some guys that

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<v Speaker 2>have foot fetishes, right, and I'm and I look at

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<v Speaker 2>them and go, have you seen boobs? Because they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>not bad either, you know, but uh, I mean but

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<v Speaker 2>to each is, well, here's the thing about the foot

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<v Speaker 2>fetish too. What he views as gerie I call a

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<v Speaker 2>flip flop, right, I mean, but so when I say that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not being critical of somebody that wants to hunt

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<v Speaker 2>a leopard. And that's just the way I'm wired is

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<v Speaker 2>if I shoot something, I want to eat it. So

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<v Speaker 2>but I would like to go I'd like to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Africa and bow hunt, and I still hunt with

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<v Speaker 2>a gun, Like I just go, Yeah, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, maybe you gave it all up for your

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<v Speaker 1>bowl big game. I hunt with a bow. But like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just got turned onto duck hunting. I had my

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<v Speaker 1>neck fhews ten years ago and the doctor said two things.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't look up and don't shoot a shotgun. That rules

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<v Speaker 1>I'll duck hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>Well apparently not, because I tried it and I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I'm like, I'll I'll deal with the pain

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<v Speaker 2>because this is a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what's in your head? Is there? Like a like

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<v Speaker 1>how do you how do you tell when you've scratched

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<v Speaker 1>the itch for a year? Right? Like for me, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>if there's I like the hunt turkeys a lot, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so late May whatever, I'll be in my head. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think of how many turkeys I got. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think of how many days I hunted turkeys. I think

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<v Speaker 1>of like, well, how many successful hunts was I in on? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Meaning my kid got one my buddy got one like

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<v Speaker 1>that I was trying to shoot. I could shoot none

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<v Speaker 1>of them, wouldn't matter. And if I finished the spring

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, man, I was in on six

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<v Speaker 1>turkey kills. That's pretty good, then I'll be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty good spring. Yeah. You know, when the big

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<v Speaker 1>game season ends, when it's all said and done, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>kind of look at was there one particular Did I

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<v Speaker 1>get some particular animal that I was real excited about?

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<v Speaker 1>And do I have a whole mountain of stuff started

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<v Speaker 1>up in freezers? Yeah? And if it's checked, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how do you how do you know? How

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<v Speaker 1>do you know that your hunting life as well?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we go through stages as a hunter. First

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<v Speaker 2>it's I want to shoot a deer. Now I want

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<v Speaker 2>to shoot a deer with horns. Now I want to

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<v Speaker 2>shoot a deer with bigger horns.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Shoot a really big deer. And so I've been through

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<v Speaker 2>all those stages. Now I'm like you, if I can

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<v Speaker 2>take a kid who's never done it and introduce it

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<v Speaker 2>to him, that's every bit of rewarding, is shooting a.

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<v Speaker 1>Deer like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the thing I loved about bow hunting. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>And kind of that conversion on big game stuff was

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<v Speaker 2>I'd shot a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of big deer with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Shotting, there's your might be a redneck word shotting shotting,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd shotten a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy that didn't like crescendo, he's got real problems

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<v Speaker 2>with shot He's don't even know where to start when

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<v Speaker 2>he writes that letter. But but like when you were

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<v Speaker 2>gun hunting and you'd go, hey, there's a deer, there's

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<v Speaker 2>oh crap, it's a doe. When you're bow hunting, you're like, oh, hell,

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<v Speaker 2>here comes a dough. You know, everything's in play, Everything

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<v Speaker 2>is in play. And I like that about it because

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard. Man, it's hard to get a stick. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to let him get. And a friend of mine

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<v Speaker 2>who loves big bucks, he said, well, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>do if you're bow hunting and the buck comes out

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<v Speaker 2>of one hundred yards across the field? And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>he wins today, But now I know a way that

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<v Speaker 2>he where he likes to cross, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>move my stand closer. But he wins today.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're excited about having a grandkit.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Oh, the greatest joy of my life. Honest

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<v Speaker 2>to God, you get to the point where you think

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<v Speaker 2>you've kind of got life figured out.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea I was going to love a

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<v Speaker 1>grandkid this much. I got a body that's got in

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<v Speaker 1>your grandkid. He told me he likes that grandkid better,

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<v Speaker 1>and he ever liked any of his kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I told you, I help my kids. I hold

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<v Speaker 2>my grandson and I go. I love you, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would lay down my life for you. I would die

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<v Speaker 2>for you. But I do not love you as much

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<v Speaker 2>as I love him. I don't love my wife as

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<v Speaker 2>much as I love you. He is my favorite human

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<v Speaker 2>being of all time. Well, and I had all girls,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love being girls. I love being a girl. Dad,

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<v Speaker 2>what was that track record? Everybody in my family had girls.

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<v Speaker 2>We had eleven girls in a roow. He's the first

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<v Speaker 2>boy in fifty eight years, like you and your you

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<v Speaker 2>have you two siblings and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys run off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and no boys. So he's the first boy. And

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<v Speaker 2>like yesterday morning, he comes out in his pajamas, he's

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<v Speaker 2>pulling on his green ruber boots, he's got a stumb

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<v Speaker 2>in his mouth. He goes, checks, let's go ride a tractor.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like hell, yeah, let's go ride a tractor.

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<v Speaker 2>I let him drive the truck. I let him sit

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<v Speaker 2>my light, laugh and drive.

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<v Speaker 1>He's two and a half. That's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but god he's whatever bat I ever did, he

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<v Speaker 2>makes up for. I've got a great life, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I've made a fabulous live in doing something that would

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<v Speaker 2>have done for free, because I love what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Love.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that comedy. It's it's very rewarding. You're making

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<v Speaker 2>people laugh. It's it's like the release five that keeps

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<v Speaker 2>people spoiler from exploding you. But it's not easy. I

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<v Speaker 2>love the fact that you never get you never get

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<v Speaker 2>it figured out. After forty years, you would think I

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<v Speaker 2>would know what people are going to laugh at and

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<v Speaker 2>what they're not going to I still don't know. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the woman you can't figure out. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>what keeps her interesting is I can't figure out. Because

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<v Speaker 2>after forty years, I can go up there and go,

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<v Speaker 2>hey is this funny and it's crickets nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like, wow, really it's not funny. So I

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<v Speaker 1>have that as a career. I have a fun which

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<v Speaker 1>I love. Man, I don't need I don't need shiny cars.

1:13:07.120 --> 1:13:12.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't need. I love this. I love I love

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<v Speaker 2>being able to grow my own food. I love being

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<v Speaker 2>able to hunt my own food. I love being able

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<v Speaker 2>to share a sunrise, you know, with friends of mine.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've never spent one day in the woods where

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<v Speaker 2>I went crap that wasn't worth it mm hmm, because

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<v Speaker 2>you always see something, see a hall, catch a squirrel,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, like today you and I stopped and

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<v Speaker 2>there's two otters chasing fish man. Yeah, you're like, that

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<v Speaker 2>was cool. Yeah, there's always something like that. So I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a farm, I've got a great job. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a wife that I adore, been married for forty years,

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<v Speaker 2>got grandkids, I got kids out of door. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I did, but thank you. I

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<v Speaker 2>have got a great life. Well, thank you for coming

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<v Speaker 2>on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, I'm fascinated by you. I like what you do,

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<v Speaker 2>and I like that you humanize hunters.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I was doing something in La and they

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<v Speaker 2>were you know, you you guys just shoot everything you see.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, are you kidding me? I said, During the

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<v Speaker 2>course of a deer season, I will see four hundred deer.

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<v Speaker 2>I might shoot four dos in a buck. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>and you tell me you love them, you don't love

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<v Speaker 2>them more than I do, because I'm out on a

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<v Speaker 2>bulldozer creating habitat for them. I'm out burning to give

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<v Speaker 2>them more native food.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out. Don't tell me you love them more. Night. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you could say to them and said, if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I love deer, I'd like to take you for

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<v Speaker 1>a little drive. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I want is as many as my land

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<v Speaker 2>can hold with them being healthy. I want it right

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<v Speaker 2>there to the top. But it's it's not an infinite

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<v Speaker 2>number of deer. So and I've seen chronic wasting disease.

1:15:06.160 --> 1:15:10.040
<v Speaker 2>I've seen it's when nature takes care of it. It's ugly,

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<v Speaker 2>much more humane. And I don't and I'm not shooting them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the killing. It's every one of them somebody eats.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's a food source, you know. So, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't like it, that's okay. I don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>like everything you do, but I like the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you show that you know you just you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to like it, but I do. And it's legal, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's good, it's fascinating. It's the biggest classroom in

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<v Speaker 2>the world is the outdoors.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, well man, thanks for thanks for being a hunter,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for making everybody laugh and making everyone laugh without

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<v Speaker 1>capitalizing on hate and discord, but just laughing at yourself. Man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>laughing at ourselves. And I think we've.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of forgotten how to do this is right now

1:16:05.760 --> 1:16:12.000
<v Speaker 2>in society people are people have to be right, which

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<v Speaker 2>means you have to be wrong, which means we're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to have conversation because I'm not going to engage

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<v Speaker 2>in a conversation where I have.

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<v Speaker 1>To be wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>And we need to give up our need to be right.

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<v Speaker 2>Because what you find as you age is things that

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<v Speaker 2>you argued vehemently for as you were twenty. Now I

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<v Speaker 2>find myself argued vehemently against. I'm like you, learn and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're all wrong about something. We're The truth is,

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<v Speaker 2>we're all wrong about a lot of things. But we

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<v Speaker 2>have to engage in those conversations. So, like with you,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know what you know that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the conversations I.

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<v Speaker 1>Like to have. I think a way to describe aging.

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<v Speaker 1>One way to describe aging would be it's a process

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<v Speaker 1>by which you become less and less interested in your

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<v Speaker 1>own opinion. Agreed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I told my kids, I said, I miss my

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<v Speaker 2>thirty year old body, but I wouldn't trade my sixty

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<v Speaker 2>year old mind and soul.

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<v Speaker 1>To get it back. Because you realize so.

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<v Speaker 2>Many things you wanted to fight about when you're young,

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<v Speaker 2>you get old, it ain't worth it. It'll sort itself out.

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<v Speaker 2>Half the things you worry about more than half. Ninety

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the things you worry about, they never happen,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you kind of there is a wisdom that comes,

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<v Speaker 2>and that wisdom comes with Everything's not a confrontation you

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<v Speaker 2>and I. Here's the thing I think politically, you can

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<v Speaker 2>have two people on total opposite ends of the spectrum.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you sat them down and you said, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you want out of lie? What do you care about?

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<v Speaker 2>What you we would agree on eighty five percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the same things. We all want to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>take care of our family. We want to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to take care of our kids, We want them to

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<v Speaker 2>live in a safe place. We want to have food

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<v Speaker 2>in our stomach. Fifteen percent would be different. What we

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<v Speaker 2>should celebrate is that eighty five percent that we're alike.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I grew up in different parts of the

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<v Speaker 2>country different ways. But as we sit here and talk,

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<v Speaker 2>we realize, oh, Steve and I are a lot alike

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<v Speaker 2>on this and the parts that are different. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>makes you Steve and what makes me Jeff. But what

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<v Speaker 2>we want to do right now is we want to

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<v Speaker 2>fight and scream and yell at each other about the

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen percent instead of going crap, eighty five percent You

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<v Speaker 2>and I want the same thing. Why why aren't we

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<v Speaker 2>based in that we can talk about the other. But

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<v Speaker 2>how boring would it be if we all want it

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<v Speaker 2>and thought alike, you know, crap?

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<v Speaker 1>That would be.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the things I love about nature is

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't have faith, I don't care. I do,

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<v Speaker 2>but I sit there and go God's infinitely creative. Like

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<v Speaker 2>there's thousands of different kinds of trees. If you ask

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<v Speaker 2>me to come up with trees after four.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm out of idea. Like I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>a little one, a medium. Yeah, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm done. Or you know, types of things in the ocean. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a fish, you know, and you go, crap, how

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<v Speaker 2>many different kinds of fish are there? Well, for people

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<v Speaker 2>that love the outdoors, it's always That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a it's a classroom.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, all of this works together.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, as the squirrels sitting there chewing on the

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<v Speaker 2>pine combe, some of those kernels are going down and

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<v Speaker 2>into the soil and becoming pine trees. Well, there's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>within a square foot of dirt, there's forty thousand organisms

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<v Speaker 2>living in that and they all do something. These these

1:20:03.280 --> 1:20:06.320
<v Speaker 2>leaves above it that are decaying or feeding something that

1:20:06.439 --> 1:20:09.519
<v Speaker 2>feeds something else, and it's all tied together, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>way more brilliant and smarter than I have the compet

1:20:12.680 --> 1:20:15.840
<v Speaker 2>the ability to understand. So I'm just going to sit

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<v Speaker 2>here and soak it all in and go, wow, isn't

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<v Speaker 2>that cool.

1:20:20.680 --> 1:20:23.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a great place to do that and experience that.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing that you were getting at a mintical

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<v Speaker 1>about that eighty five fifteen percent eighty five percent of

1:20:31.760 --> 1:20:35.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff brings us together, fifteen percent is different. There's been

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<v Speaker 1>a like this idea I've been toying around in my

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<v Speaker 1>head about when I and I've talked about this a

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<v Speaker 1>number of times, is I compare sometimes my lived experience, right,

1:20:45.680 --> 1:20:48.960
<v Speaker 1>like what happens me going about my day, going to

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<v Speaker 1>a gas station down the road from here, whatever what happens,

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<v Speaker 1>going about my day, and then me reading about what

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<v Speaker 1>my American life is supposed to be like, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>in reading about what my American life, life is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, it's supposed to be defined by polarization,

1:21:05.439 --> 1:21:12.799
<v Speaker 1>political violence, right, yeah, whatever, all of this economic strain,

1:21:13.000 --> 1:21:18.320
<v Speaker 1>social economic upheaval, you know. And I'm like, go, Okay,

1:21:18.400 --> 1:21:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I got it, that's what life's like. But why is

1:21:21.800 --> 1:21:25.839
<v Speaker 1>that not line up at all with what your experience

1:21:25.920 --> 1:21:28.439
<v Speaker 1>with what happens when I'm like talking to my neighbors,

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<v Speaker 1>who I don't know the first thing about where they

1:21:30.120 --> 1:21:32.400
<v Speaker 1>are at politically, or why does that not happen when

1:21:32.400 --> 1:21:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I go into a gas station? Why are people cool

1:21:34.320 --> 1:21:36.080
<v Speaker 1>when I get into an uber? Why am I able

1:21:36.080 --> 1:21:38.680
<v Speaker 1>to you know what I mean? Like, how am I

1:21:38.760 --> 1:21:42.200
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be having this but instead I'm having this? Well?

1:21:42.520 --> 1:21:44.719
<v Speaker 1>In which one's those things? Which of those do you believe?

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<v Speaker 1>Which is the truth? I'm leaning toward thinking that the

1:21:48.200 --> 1:21:50.479
<v Speaker 1>lived one is the truth. It is the truth. You

1:21:51.200 --> 1:21:51.640
<v Speaker 1>follow me.

1:21:51.760 --> 1:21:53.639
<v Speaker 2>I've gotten to the point I say when I walk

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<v Speaker 2>on stage, and I do I said, I'm standing on

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<v Speaker 2>the sides of the stage. I remind myself that everybody

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm going to look at is going through some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a struggle. And now it might be a

1:22:06.960 --> 1:22:12.080
<v Speaker 2>physical struggle, it might be emotional, it might be financial,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're going through something. And that's why, really my

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<v Speaker 2>whole life, I'm like, just have grace with people because

1:22:18.400 --> 1:22:21.519
<v Speaker 2>you don't know their backstory, you don't know what they're

1:22:21.560 --> 1:22:31.040
<v Speaker 2>going through, So have a little grace with them. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the cool thing about laughter is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're all in a struggle. That's why I love what

1:22:37.080 --> 1:22:40.160
<v Speaker 2>I do is I can go visit kids in the

1:22:40.200 --> 1:22:43.760
<v Speaker 2>hospital and they might have my book, or they might

1:22:43.840 --> 1:22:46.080
<v Speaker 2>have my game, or they might have my DVD, and

1:22:46.120 --> 1:22:48.559
<v Speaker 2>they didn't know I was coming. So there's something that

1:22:48.640 --> 1:22:52.439
<v Speaker 2>I've created that has given them an escape from the

1:22:52.560 --> 1:22:55.800
<v Speaker 2>struggle that they're going through. And I went, oh, that's

1:22:55.880 --> 1:23:00.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of a cool benefit to this. But yeah, we

1:23:00.680 --> 1:23:03.880
<v Speaker 2>don't give each other much grace. You know, you don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I worked it a totally under the radar, didn't

1:23:08.640 --> 1:23:11.400
<v Speaker 2>want anybody to know but get up every week and

1:23:11.439 --> 1:23:13.760
<v Speaker 2>I worked down at a homeless shelter in downtown Line

1:23:15.560 --> 1:23:18.920
<v Speaker 2>for twelve years get up on Tuesday morning five o'clock

1:23:18.960 --> 1:23:22.320
<v Speaker 2>and go down there and work. And my opinion of

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<v Speaker 2>homeless used to be like, oh, you're too lazy to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you're well.

1:23:27.280 --> 1:23:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Most of them were in some kind of addiction. But

1:23:29.439 --> 1:23:32.760
<v Speaker 2>if you learn their story, if you come to learn

1:23:32.800 --> 1:23:39.040
<v Speaker 2>their story, something bad happened. They were molested, they were abused,

1:23:39.120 --> 1:23:43.320
<v Speaker 2>they were and so the addiction wasn't really the problem

1:23:43.400 --> 1:23:46.320
<v Speaker 2>that that was the symptom. That was I got to

1:23:46.439 --> 1:23:50.840
<v Speaker 2>numb this painful feeling and then you start having grace

1:23:50.880 --> 1:23:54.000
<v Speaker 2>with them going crap, dude, I would have numbed too.

1:23:56.960 --> 1:24:01.280
<v Speaker 2>We need to get back as a as a society,

1:24:01.400 --> 1:24:08.200
<v Speaker 2>just start doing that with each other. Uh happened some grace,

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<v Speaker 2>So quit yelling life's too short.

1:24:12.479 --> 1:24:16.559
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm. Crack some jokes instead. Yeah, fry up some venison.

1:24:17.800 --> 1:24:20.679
<v Speaker 2>Pry up some venison. Crack some jokes. If you don't

1:24:20.680 --> 1:24:22.720
<v Speaker 2>want to eat the venison, fine hand it to me.

1:24:22.840 --> 1:24:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll eat it. Well, man, I want to thank you

1:24:25.720 --> 1:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>again for coming on the show. I really appreciate it. Well,

1:24:28.000 --> 1:24:29.320
<v Speaker 1>I thanks for the tour of the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've always been such an admirer of what you do.

1:24:32.800 --> 1:24:35.400
<v Speaker 2>So it's I'm honored that you would be here, that

1:24:35.479 --> 1:24:36.720
<v Speaker 2>you would take the time to be here.

1:24:36.800 --> 1:24:38.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, Once I realized you weren't going to come

1:24:38.439 --> 1:24:40.360
<v Speaker 1>to me, I decided to come to you. So so

1:24:41.280 --> 1:24:44.519
<v Speaker 1>suck it, Rogan. Not really.

1:24:44.880 --> 1:24:47.519
<v Speaker 2>I love what he does too. Thanks a lot, man,

1:24:47.960 --> 1:24:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me. Yeah, for sure, come back and

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<v Speaker 2>hunt and fish.

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<v Speaker 1>I will. I'll bring my kids.

1:24:52.600 --> 1:24:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, please bring your kids. That'd be the number one

1:24:55.920 --> 1:24:58.840
<v Speaker 2>reason you guys could stay here and break everything in here.

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<v Speaker 1>Great. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Rack coon pecker, old man in my mountains, keep his

1:25:08.479 --> 1:25:17.840
<v Speaker 3>hat together, Rack coon pecker. Use this tooth thick. It'll

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<v Speaker 3>last forever. Rack coon pecker, best toothpick in town. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you see, now, I was driving down the road and

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<v Speaker 3>I uh stumbled upon this sheer raccoon there, and I

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<v Speaker 3>ran him over, hit him with my car. Looked at

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<v Speaker 3>this old son of a gun and seeing that he

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<v Speaker 3>has a pecker, not just any kind of pecker, a

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<v Speaker 3>rack coon pecker. Put him in your hat. It holds

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<v Speaker 3>it together, Rack coon pecker. I'm in my tooth. Raccoon pecker,

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<v Speaker 3>gonna pick it out, raccoon pecker.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave it on a tree.

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<v Speaker 3>It for dicks.

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<v Speaker 1>The weather.

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<v Speaker 3>Rain falling off.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's rain.

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<v Speaker 3>It as dry as a bone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's right stiff as hell.

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<v Speaker 3>It's old ice cold. Old lady gonna give you the

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<v Speaker 3>bone because it's a racon pecker. Can I put it

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<v Speaker 3>in my hand to keep my hat together?

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<v Speaker 1>Peanut it, and my tooth is gonna pick it on,

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<v Speaker 1>or raccoon picker. There ain't no doubt