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Speaker 1: joined today by Jeff Foxworthy, who I've wanted to have

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Speaker 1: you on for forever. We talked about it years ago,

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Speaker 1: but you don't I had to come to you. Look.

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Speaker 2: I have spent my entire life on the road. It's

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Speaker 2: like it was kind of a race between you and Rogan. No,

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Speaker 2: you won't even travel to go on Joe, Oh, I

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Speaker 2: won't travel. Joe's like, come, I really want to talk

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Speaker 2: to you, Come do the show. I want to talk

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Speaker 2: about hunting, and I'm like, dude, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: All the way over to off. Well, but.

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Speaker 2: I've spent four decades on airplanes and hotel rooms.

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Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah, comedy, you can't finish farm No,

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Speaker 1: Krinn wrote the intro okay, but on the subject to Krinn,

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Speaker 1: our producer Krinn, as everyone knows is Chinese and Jewish,

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Speaker 1: and Jeff's already got half act. That's just such a

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Speaker 1: weird combination. I'm not gonna tell anybody the jokes. I

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Speaker 2: The only place that you can go to somebody's house

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Speaker 1: There you see, You see where it's going. Comedian actor, author,

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Speaker 1: an introduction for Jeff? And yeah, I make one, but

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Speaker 1: she only put she put perhaps your greatest work last,

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Speaker 1: and you probably don't realize it was your greatest work,

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Speaker 1: which is The Incomplete Deer Hunter. Oh my god. So

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Speaker 1: i'd like to say. Jeff Foxworthy is the creative of

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Speaker 1: The Incomplete Deer Hunter and a comedian, actor, author, television

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Speaker 2: No, you need to get out more. You've spent way

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Speaker 1: from a guy named Alex. What's a pedantry? Uh like teachy? Okay, preachy? Right, pedantry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be ninety years old. They're gonna come to

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Speaker 2: which is one of the most agonized. After forty one

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Speaker 2: Tell everywhere we're at right now, we're at my farm

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Speaker 2: if I'm not working, this is my sanctuary, this is

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Speaker 2: all day long with a bag of jerky in three

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I mean, that wasn't my thing. I didn't

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Speaker 2: drinking coffee and tractors, because some of my tractors cost

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Speaker 2: more than your porsches.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, have you comedians getting beer and tracks? Right?

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Speaker 2: I think he would love a tractor or a bulldozer

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Speaker 1: You know, how did uh you have a property because

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Speaker 1: you like the hunt? Yeah, it's beautifully managed. You managed

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Speaker 1: as a wildlife. It's like you manage for wildlife, deer

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Speaker 1: But it's like, maybe you didn't write them, but there's

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Speaker 2: And I wrote ten ways how to tell how you

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Speaker 2: And that's what I tell young comics, I said, talk

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that aren't irving, and they're

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Speaker 2: we were going to do it for three weeks, and

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Speaker 1: always trying to schedule around being able to hunt and

429
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: fish and stuff? Well? Did you sometimes just have to

430
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: eat it and be like, I'm not going to do

431
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: anything outdoors because I'm going to like, while the fire's

432
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: burning hot, I'm just going to go do my business.

433
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 2: Well, back in the club day, because most clubs were

434
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 2: like Tuesday through Sunday, I had eight years in a row.

435
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: I did five hundred shows a year at least. And

436
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: you're going, whether there's only three hundred and sixty five nuts,

437
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: but you're doing two shows on Friday night, three shows

438
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: on Saturday night. If you were in a you might

439
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: be bouncing from club to club, and I would just

440
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 2: keep note because I wanted I wanted to be on

441
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: Johnny Carson, and I thought, the only way I'm going

442
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: to do this is kind of the Malcolm Gladwell theory.

443
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: I've got to do it ten thousand times to become

444
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 2: an expert at it. And my goal was everybody said,

445
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 2: it takes you ten years to be a good enough

446
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: comedian to be on Carson, and I thought, I'll do

447
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 2: it in half. I'm going to work so hard night. Yeah,

448
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: and it actually took me five years and two months,

449
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: but I did it, And so then I didn't I

450
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: didn't do anything but do comedy. But then once I

451
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 2: started moving from cl to like theaters and things like that.

452
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: When you say a club, that's one hundred people, two

453
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: hundred people, hundred people, two hundred people, and when you

454
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: say a theater, it's one thousand and three thousand, Yeah.

455
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: Up to four or five thousand. But the great thing

456
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 2: about theaters and that kind of happened because of the albums.

457
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: People became aware of you, and then they would they

458
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 2: would come. Well, theaters were more Friday and Saturday, which

459
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 2: was great because it was about the time I had kids,

460
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: so I could be home during the week and I

461
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: was just going on the weekend doing shows. Then I

462
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 2: could start to get back into hunting and fishing. Fact,

463
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: when I did are You Smarter than the fifth Grader?

464
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: I had it in my contract that I could film

465
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 2: eleven months of the year, but I couldn't film the

466
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: month of November. And I had an LA attorney come

467
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: up to me and say why, I don't understand. Why

468
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: can't you film in November? And I said because it's

469
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: the rut? And he was like, the what the what?

470
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, it's the rut.

471
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm not hunting.

472
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not filming during the rut. I'm going

473
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: to be home. And so I may be the only

474
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: idiot in LA that had that in there?

475
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: Has that in there? Do you ever try to go hit?

476
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: Do you ever try to go somewhere and to be

477
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: trying to get out in the morning with people you

478
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: know and hit little things like hit the morning Turkey

479
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: Hunt and then make it too ye show.

480
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: It was just always hard because you couldn't travel with

481
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 2: guns and you know, and like back in the day,

482
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 2: you do a show on Friday night, Well you walk

483
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: off stage, say you were in Michigan. Where you're the

484
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: next night you may be in Kansas City. So you're

485
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 2: up at five am to catch the first flight to

486
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: fly to Kansas City, which you get there at ten

487
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: or eleven.

488
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: Well, your day's kind of shot. So it was just hard.

489
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: I know that feeling. You know how you would do

490
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: five hundred shows a year, yeah, do you maybe six

491
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: to eight? Yeah, And so I have a level of

492
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: expertise here, bute, And I know that even then, you

493
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: always like, as you're planning it, you're thinking about, man,

494
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hunt turkeys and every one of the locations.

495
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just never have the time to do it.

496
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: And yours were different. Like when I watch your shows,

497
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 2: Like for me, I told my wife, I said, you

498
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: love to travel because when you get somewhere, you open

499
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: your suitcase and you open it for a week. I said,

500
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm opening my suitcase every day and packing it back

501
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: up because you're in a different city every night. And

502
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: but like with your shows, when you're going to these

503
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: remote places, Hell, you're going to sheep Hunch, You're going

504
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: two weeks.

505
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: Oh that kind of show. Yeah, I was referring to

506
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: doing like doing live shows, which are a very small

507
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: handful of Oh no, it's uh, your trips were long,

508
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: drong trips. Yeah, you really get like a doing that

509
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: kind of doing that kind of lifestyle, especially when were

510
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: making a lot of shows. Man, you get like a

511
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: really deep immersion into a lot of different spots, which

512
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: is just completely like not at all similar to what

513
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: you're talking about with like the turn and burn and

514
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: cans of Yeah, did you did you start to formulate

515
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: an idea of at what point in your life did

516
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: you start thinking that at some point I'm going to

517
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: slow down and enjoy myself more and what will that

518
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: look like? Like? When did you indulge yourself with that,

519
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: you know, with that vision? Because I look now, I

520
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: feel like you got I think when I'm here like

521
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: mens Guy's got it meet, I know.

522
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: But I'm like last weekend in the woods, and last

523
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: weekend I was in Michigan on Friday night, Minnesota on

524
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 2: Saturday night. So I still I still enjoy what I do,

525
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: but I've slowed down. I mean I probably do forty

526
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: or fifty concerts a year now as opposed to hundreds

527
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: because I want to enjoy my grandkids. Yeah, you know,

528
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: yesterday I'm riding around on tractors and skit steers with

529
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: my two and a half year old grandson. That's that's

530
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: my joy in life. That's why I always said I

531
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: didn't want to live to work and wanted to work

532
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: to live Unfortunately, I was born with a work with

533
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: a work ethic.

534
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: You know. I uh, I don't want to sit around.

535
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: You know.

536
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: My mom's like, you need to slow down. I said,

537
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: I just wasn't born with that brain. I can't just

538
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: sit on the couch. I want to go do something.

539
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: I want to go see something, learn something.

540
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: Did your uh did your folks think you were crazy

541
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: for what you wanted to do? Yeah, well they did.

542
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: They try to discourage you, like, he'll never do that.

543
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: You know, well, I blew up.

544
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: My folks divorced early, so my dad had a really

545
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: good job working at IBM. But my granddad was a fireman.

546
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: When you say early, how old are you like eight

547
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: or nine? H oh, well did you understand what was

548
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: going on? Well? Back I was the only kid I

549
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: knew that had divorced parents. It was.

550
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: You know that it sucked because you know, I wanted

551
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: my dad there. But I love my grandparents and my granddad,

552
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: bless his heart, was a fireman. So he worked one

553
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: day and had too often he was fishing the two

554
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: he was off and he would take me got you know,

555
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: great granddad, which was one of my goals in life.

556
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to be a really good granddad.

557
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: But everybody I knew they were blue collar, they worked

558
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: for a living. So even though I was attracted to comedy,

559
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: it never occurred to me that that was a possibility. Yeah,

560
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 2: you probably hadn't met a comic. No, they were just

561
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: on TV. But I was the funny guy. I actually

562
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: I worked in a grocery store, and I worked at

563
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: a hotel, and then I got a job I think

564
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: my dad, because I flunked out of college after three years.

565
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: I think my dad thought I was going to end

566
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: up being a near do well, so I think he

567
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: got one of his friends to call and give me

568
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: a job at IBM entry level. I was working dispatch,

569
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: and then later on I was I carried a toolbag

570
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: and fixed machines. But I was the funny guy work.

571
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: I was the guy that was in the break room

572
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: doing impersonations of the boss, and then you would turn around,

573
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: the boss would be in the doorway.

574
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: I was that guy.

575
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: So I wasn't on the crescendo to be to the top.

576
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: And a bunch of guys I worked with entered me

577
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: in a comedy competition, not an amateur night, a competition

578
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: for working comedians called the Great Southeastern laugh Off. They

579
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: entered me in and I'm like, oh crap, I got

580
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: to write material. So I wrote five minutes about my family.

581
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: I went down. I won the contest. The first time

582
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: was the material. It was why I lived in Sarasota, Florida,

583
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: and I talked about it being it was God's waiting

584
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: room because everybody there was like ninety years old. Then

585
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: I did a bit about dads when everybody else cuts

586
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: their toenails. They put him in the trash dad's sleeve.

587
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: Theres in the ashtray in the den for the whole

588
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: family to come observe and admire. And the crazy thing

589
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: is my wife used to act, and she had just

590
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: done a TV show with a comedian and she was

591
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: there that night rooting for him in the competition. So

592
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: I met my career and I met my wife five

593
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: minutes apart.

594
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: He stole his fan. Yeah, were they romantically involved now? Now?

595
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: In fact, he's He and his wife are two of

596
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: our best friends to this day. But what's the odds

597
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: of finding your career and your wife five minutes apart,

598
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: same night? I guess low, Yeah, low, And but I knew, Oh,

599
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: I take that back.

600
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: A little bit because when I sold my first book,

601
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: I went I had never been to New York. Sold

602
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: my first book, went to have a meeting. I sold

603
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: to Miermax prior to those fellas Bob and Harvey Einstein,

604
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: I have sold their company. Flew to New York to

605
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: meet the people that bought my book, and in that

606
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: meeting met my wife. Did you not from New York?

607
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: Did you know when you met her? Did you? Did you?

608
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: Because I know so. I met my wife on a

609
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: Tuesday night. We went out on a Saturday, and an

610
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: hour into the date, I went, oh, crap, I'm gonna

611
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: marry this girl.

612
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: Oh really? An hour into the first.

613
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: Date and she was the only one that was saying

614
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: to me, you could do this. She said to me,

615
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: she said, you are so creative. If you sit in

616
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: a cubicle the rest of your life, you're going to

617
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: have a miserable life. You're going to explode. You need

618
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: to do something creative. Is your wife rednick?

619
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: No, she's from New Orleans. Does that make you out

620
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: a redneck? I understand.

621
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: No, They've got a lot of them down there, But like,

622
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: instead of.

623
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: Because in my mind, I think I don't think of

624
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: that as incompatiby.

625
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: No, they're very compatible because she has family in other

626
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: parts of the Louisiana that will eat things the FBI

627
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: can't identify. I mean, it's just but I think she

628
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: really thought she was going to pull me up to

629
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: her level and instead I.

630
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: Just drown drug her down to the middle.

631
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: But but she it was like the first person that

632
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: got me, you know what I mean, She's just like

633
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 2: And so I thought how I could do this? And

634
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 2: so I quit my job and I tell my kids,

635
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: I'm like that. At that point, well I went. I

636
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: did Amateur Night for like six months and little gigs

637
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: around town, but I knew by then I loved it.

638
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: And what was the first money you were making at it?

639
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean, not like, I mean, what was the first

640
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: like helpful, usable amount of money.

641
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: So December the fourth, nineteen eighty four, they had Amateur

642
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: Knight before the regular show. Steven Wright, it's the headliner,

643
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 2: and he found me in the club. He had watched

644
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: Hammate Night and he came up and he told me,

645
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: he said, you need to be doing this. You should

646
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: be a comic, and which kind of reinforced what my

647
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: wife said. And so I went in the next day,

648
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 2: and I told my boss, I'm like, I'm quitting IBM.

649
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: And my mother when I told my mother I had quit.

650
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: That's our first question was asked about your parents' perception.

651
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got there eventually. My mom's first question was,

652
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: are you on the dope. I'm not sure what thud

653
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: dope was. Are you on the dope? We can get

654
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: you help? And I'm like no, I said, but I

655
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: think I can do this, and I don't want to

656
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: be sitting around when I'm sixty going what if I'd

657
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: try that? And I tell my kids, I said, you

658
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: need some hold your nose and jump moments in your life.

659
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: And so my first real gig was New Year's Eve

660
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: of eighty four with Sindbad and so I think I

661
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 2: was making it out. That was what year eighty four,

662
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: So I think I was making like thirty two grand

663
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: a year at IBM, and I had health and dental insurance.

664
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: My first year of comedy eighty five, first full year,

665
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: I did four hundred and six shows and I made

666
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: eight three hundred dollars for the year, which is like

667
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: twenty bucks a show.

668
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: So at that point, man, you've given Like at that point,

669
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: at that volume, you've really given up a lot of

670
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: normal life.

671
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, yeah, you're not doing anything. When I

672
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: would go out to do the week at the comedy club,

673
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: my wife would give me thirty bucks to live on

674
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 2: for the week, and that was gas money and food money,

675
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: and you were hoping the club gave you a free meal.

676
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: If a club served food.

677
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: A lot of times the comics could eat. We used

678
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: to roll pennies and when we had enough, we'd go.

679
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: To the movies. That was our dates.

680
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: Really you lived like that, Oh yeah, dude, with no money,

681
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: so broke. I left Atlanta. One time I had a

682
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: gig at a comedy club that was in a holiday

683
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: inn in Sarasota, Florida. I drove down there, and when

684
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: I got there, the guy said.

685
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: Well did you say that? Where was the gig?

686
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: Sarasota, Florida, But in a holiday in. They're a little

687
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: nightclub there, and but the deal was they gave you

688
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: a hotel room for the week while you did this.

689
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: And when I got there, the guy said, dude, he said,

690
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: last night was our last night. We're not making money.

691
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: We closed And I'm like, so you're out of business?

692
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: Why just driven nine hours? I went in the lobby

693
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: bathroom and pee and bought a coke and got back

694
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: in the car. So I've driven nine hours and now

695
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 2: I'm turning around driving back home. But I haven't got paid.

696
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: I don't have a credit card, and I'm like, God,

697
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: I hope I got enough money to get home for gas.

698
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: And I stopped making Georgia at about three in the morning,

699
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: and I'm digging for change underneath the car seat. You know, Oh,

700
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: we got forty cents. Let me put that in gas

701
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: in the car. And I got to South Atlanta, where

702
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: I grew up. In the red lights on I'm like,

703
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: I'm not going to make it home. So I pull

704
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: off the interstate into a gas station and I'm trying

705
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: to figure out I don't even have a quarter to

706
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: call my wife. And a guy I went to high

707
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: school with pulled up to get gas and I went

708
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: over to him and I said, dude, I'm so embarrassed,

709
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: but I left home this morning without my wallet. I

710
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 2: didn't want to tell him I was that broke. I said,

711
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: can I borrow five bucks? He's like, yeah, oh, hell yeah.

712
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: So I got home. Years later, he came to my

713
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 2: concert and he goes I remember loading you and I said, dude,

714
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: I was so broke.

715
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: I had no money to get home. I said, let

716
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: me pay you back.

717
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: And he's like, nope, I want you to owe it

718
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: to me because it's a much better story.

719
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of it still hasn't. It still hasn't

720
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: paid me back. That's that's that's incredible though, that you

721
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: went through all that. I mean, it's great that but

722
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: looking back, yeah, it's it was good. It made oh

723
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: I think it made me important man better. I had

724
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: a hunger to get better at it, you know. You

725
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: know people say that comics have like a there's like

726
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: a lot of the more chase and a it's got

727
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: to be fueled somewhere, right. Yeah. I always there's like

728
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: a there's like some sort of demon that needs to

729
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: be slay, you know, or else you're not funny, you

730
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like like if everything's just gravy

731
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: all the time, you don't get a chance to be funny. Yeah.

732
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 2: I always heard there they're laughing on the outside, crying

733
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 2: on the ends. Sure, but I think it's like human beings,

734
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: we're we're all different. I think I was probably affected

735
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: by my dad leaving because I could make my dad

736
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 2: laugh when I saw him. Well, that was approval God.

737
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: So it probably made me work at being funnier. But

738
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: I was wired this way. I came from a funny family.

739
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: I was wired creative. Part of the reason that I

740
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: flunked out of college was I was going to Georgia Tech,

741
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: which was an engineering school, and that wasn't my strength.

742
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: I remember taking an English class there and writing a

743
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: story about deer hunting, and the English teacher goes, have

744
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: you ever thought about being a writer. Maybe you're not

745
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: an engineer, Maybe you should be a writer. I remember

746
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: being in high school and I had no money to

747
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: buy my girlfriend a birthday present. I saw there was

748
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 2: a speech contest at the Elks Lodge that paid fifty bucks.

749
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: I wrote a.

750
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: Speech, went down there and won. You know, I had

751
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: taken my girlfriend the red lobster. Maybe here we go.

752
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: So what happened with flunking out of college.

753
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: I was at the wrong place. It wasn't my gift,

754
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: you know, And I didn't know what my gift was.

755
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: But from where I stand now, like God made me

756
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: this way, I see the funny in things. It doesn't

757
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: mean that I don't get mad or I don't get sad,

758
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: but I always look for the funny in it, and

759
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: I do believe it's a gift. And I think I'm

760
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: a writer. In any great comic is a writer. You

761
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: just have to have that brain and you're a writer.

762
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: We don't do it necessarily because it's fun. It ain't fun.

763
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: No, I don't enjoy it. I don't enjoy the act.

764
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: If you have a hard time with that, doing it

765
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: is not like doing It's not fun. There's a writer,

766
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: Ian Frasier, and he said, when he was little, he

767
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: pictured being a writer. He pictured writers sitting there and

768
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: they're typing and they're kind of chuckling to themselves, you know.

769
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: And then only later do you realize that it's just

770
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 1: like it's just doing it is not enjoyable.

771
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 2: It's not enjoy the menu. You stand up the men,

772
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: you stand up finished product. When you look back and

773
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: you go, yeah, man, now all right. Let me ask

774
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: you a question, because I actually asked Bruce Springsteen this,

775
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 2: Like I have a pad next to my bed. I've

776
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: had it for thirty years with a pen on it,

777
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: and I can write in the dark. But so because

778
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: you always think you're going to remember it, and you

779
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: never do so I've learned, like, rite something about as

780
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: your body's relaxing to go to sleep, ideas start coming.

781
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: And I've learned to just write a sentence where I

782
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: can remember it in the morning. But I also have

783
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: a pad next on my bathroom counter. I bet sixty

784
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: percent of the things I think of are in the shower.

785
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: Oh and so I get out of the shower, and

786
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: I actually asked, springstand and so where do you write

787
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: the most?

788
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: Oh? No, I write a lot of stuff in the shower. Man.

789
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: Oh really?

790
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so there must be when I'm driving in

791
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: the shower and right before I'm going to bed.

792
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: Is usually those times. There's a there's a band I

793
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: like a bit trampled by turtles. Now great name the singers.

794
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: This guy Dave Simonett. He's really good lyrically. And the

795
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: other night he left his uh, he accidentally left his

796
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: little notebook at my house. It's sitting on my counter

797
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: right now, and I keep wanting looking that little notebook,

798
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: but I can't bring myself to looking there. I feel

799
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: like it could be like a betrayal kind of is.

800
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: But I'm real curious about it. For a writer, I

801
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: have cracked it. I look at it, and I think, man,

802
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: whan I look in at that notebook? Yeah, but then

803
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I'd be violating some kind of guest

804
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: host bond, you know, if I found it on the street, sure,

805
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: but he left it my house. See that's why we

806
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: don't crack it open. We just look at it.

807
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: I was interested in doing this with you because you're

808
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: a weird combo in that you're very capable, but you're creative,

809
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: which are not usually like most really creatives I know

810
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: can't tie their sh u, can't fill up their gas tank,

811
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: and that's kind of normal.

812
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: I had a dad that pounded all that India.

813
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't give a lick about the creative No,

814
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 2: mine didn't either, But it was like.

815
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: He wrote something. It was on a it was on

816
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: graph paper, yeah, or on a two by four. You know.

817
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: That's uh.

818
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: But I think you and I are have that in common,

819
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: is we're capable, but we're creative as well. Rogan's like that,

820
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: So it's a weird mix, uh, which because I'm kind

821
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: of fascinated by the writer side of you. I saw

822
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: where Steve Martin won a writing award and he said,

823
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: this means more to me than anything goes.

824
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: Writing's hard, yeah, And I'm like, dude, I get it.

825
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: You know it's well yeah, because you guys get like

826
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: like comics, you get known for the performative part, but

827
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: prior to the performative parts, the writing part. Do you

828
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: know what a writer's minds? It's kind of the end

829
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 1: of it. You're a writer.

830
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: It's funny because I'm kind of a physical comic and

831
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: people will ask me, do you practice in front of

832
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: a mirror?

833
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: No? I never think about the performance. Do you ever

834
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: have to watch yourself? I hate to watch myself. You

835
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: don't know what you look like. I cringe.

836
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: Like when I used to do Johnny Carson and you'd

837
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: film it like at four or five in the afternoon,

838
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 2: and you'd come home and it would come on. I'd

839
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: watch the whole show until I came home. Then I'd

840
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: get up and leave the room because I hate the

841
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 2: way I talk, I hate the way I look. I did,

842
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 2: and my wife would be in the other room, going,

843
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: it's really good, come watch it, and I'm like, no,

844
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: I can't.

845
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: I can't. You hate the way you look? What do

846
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: you wish you look like? Now? I don't know? Something different?

847
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh, with comedy. It was always the writing,

848
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: and you know, and it's kind of like, I know,

849
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: when you do it well that the audience thinks, oh

850
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 2: he just walked out here and.

851
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: Just thought of this.

852
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but I know, I remember when I was

853
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: still doing amateur nights. Lena was always so nice to

854
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: young comics.

855
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: Was he very patient.

856
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: And we're sitting at the waffle house and he said,

857
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: your goal should be to write one new minute a week. Now,

858
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: think about that. Your goal should be to write one

859
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: new minute a week because you're special every year, And

860
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: well it does. And in my mind, I'm thinking, are

861
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 2: you out of your mind? I can write twenty or

862
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: thirty minutes a week.

863
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: No, he was right.

864
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: If you can write one minute that a room full

865
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: of strangers are going to laugh at every time you

866
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 2: say it. Over the course of a year, you've got

867
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 2: a new you've got a new album, you've got a

868
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: new special, you know, whatever it is. And but that

869
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: wasn't easy. I mean, you had to be working to

870
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: get sixty new minutes a year, which was always so

871
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: sad because you do a special on crap. All that

872
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: work now got to start all.

873
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: Over, walk me through and the flow of the flow

874
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: of an idea if you don't practice front of a mirror,

875
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: so you get like an observation that like your wife's

876
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: butts cold when she climbs in bed, Yeah, how her

877
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: bucket cold? Yeah. You drive around and your tract or whatever,

878
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: and you think about that and you think that's funny.

879
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: You never going in the gate like that. It just

880
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: lives in your head. Then you try it out like

881
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: you never do, like, hey, film me talking about this.

882
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: It's like it starts with a with a thought, and

883
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 2: then I'm like, like if I thought of something when

884
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: maybe I think this is funny, like and you and

885
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: I were having a conversation, I'd figure out a way

886
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: to work it into the conversation and to see and

887
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 2: if you laughed, I went, Okay, that's a valid thought.

888
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: And then so you try it out like you try

889
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: it out in your buddies on them knowing it. Yeah.

890
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 2: And then so in the early days, I always envisioned

891
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: it like Clay. I would go out there and throw

892
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: an idea out, say it's five sentences and three of

893
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: them worked, So I'd keep the three that worked, get

894
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: rid of the two that didn't, and then the next

895
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 2: night I'd try two or three more, and so it

896
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: was like adding a little piece of clay every night,

897
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: and there, over a course of a month, you've got

898
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: a new ten minute bit. As I've gotten older, I

899
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: kind of did the opposite is I would start with

900
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 2: a big glob and just go out there and try it,

901
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: which I don't know why, but everything that didn't work,

902
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: I'd cut it off and cut it off and just

903
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: kept and so in the early days, my bits were

904
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: two and three minutes long. Now they tend to be

905
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: twenty and thirty minutes long, right, really long pieces.

906
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: When you say a bit, you mean like you'll do that,

907
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: You'll spend that time on a subject. Yeah, like having

908
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: a kidney stone, you know. So, but you're not going

909
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: to get done with that in two minutes. No.

910
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: Well, and here's my thought. If you go to all

911
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: the trouble to set it up, which is the part

912
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: you're not getting a laugh. Once you get it set up,

913
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: why not go you got a harvest, big deep and

914
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: get like Jim Gaffigan talking about bacon. You know, I'm

915
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 2: a comic, and I'm like, how long can you talk

916
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: about bacon for two or three minutes? At minute twenty

917
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: of gafficking. I've got my hands in my head going,

918
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: how can you talk about bacon for twenty minutes?

919
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: This is hilarious. Yeah, that's a good observation. You gotta

920
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: set you gotta set the story up. Yeah, but if

921
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: you've gotten to start spinning off and then it needs

922
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: to spin off jokes? Yeah, yeah? What uh? When you were?

923
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: Not when you were? Because as you meet comics, are

924
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: you guys always bound? Like do you feel that you're

925
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: bound to other comics through the comedy or do you

926
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: feel like the sort of political and social differences do?

927
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean, like, do you run into you when you're

928
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: doing running another comics and like, is it like you're

929
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: sort of like the redneck guy from the south and

930
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: so you're ostracized or is it just the that comedy

931
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 1: brings your whole circle of professional colleagues together.

932
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I think when you're starting out, it's so

933
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: competitive and everybody's trying to get a hand on the

934
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: ledge that you're really cut throat with each other. And

935
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: you know the thing about the redneck jokes? They were

936
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 2: one liners, and so we live in an age where

937
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 2: nobody does one liners. But they were easy to remember.

938
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: They were easy to retell you know what I mean,

939
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: And so I could do them on the radio, and

940
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 2: I could do ten of them, so there's ten laughs

941
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: and people could remember them, they could repeat them. But

942
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 2: it was a way for people to remember my name.

943
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: But at the height of it, it was three minutes

944
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: out of an hour and a half show.

945
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: And so for.

946
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: People that thought that was all I did, I'm like, no,

947
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 2: you haven't watched me. Mostly what I do is material

948
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: about my wife and my family and my kids. And

949
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: but it was a way for them to remember their name.

950
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: I find the longer you do it, you realize it's

951
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 2: a wonderful job.

952
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: But it's hard.

953
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 2: You you don't last unless you work hard at it.

954
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I love to look for arrowheads.

955
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: If I walk into guy's house and he's got a

956
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 2: display case full of unbroken arrowheads, I knew that took

957
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: a long time. That took a long long time to

958
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: find that many unbroken era heads. The same way with

959
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: a comic, and so you can can I have a

960
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: respect for each other.

961
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: I want to get return this. If I want to

962
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: tell you another metric. Okay, you consider how many mountain

963
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: lions have you seen? That's a metric for time spent

964
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: time spent messing around out How many of you seen

965
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: Not many? I spent a lot of time messing around

966
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: on outside. Yeah, I think I've had I've seen six

967
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: that weren't being chased by dogs. Well that's pretty cool.

968
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: Well I got a Boddy who spends a lot of

969
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: time outside. Last time I talked to him, he was

970
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: on like thirty five or something. Oh my gosh. I

971
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: didn't mean interrupt the chain of thought. I I'm know

972
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Like, I had to get back to

973
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: a bow.

974
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: One time and I was trailing them and h Glenn,

975
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: my farm manager who you met, went back to get

976
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: us some water and all, and so I just sat

977
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 2: down and when he came back, he goes, dude, there's

978
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: mountain lion tracks in your footprints. Oh yeah, and my

979
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: dumb ass is sitting at the bottom of a tree

980
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 2: with my bow.

981
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's a wonder. I wasn't lunch. Yeah, I

982
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: don't want to bring the chain of thought, but I

983
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: was just thinking about your awareness of that collection and

984
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: being like that is a lot a lot, it's a

985
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: lot of work. Like you're dedicated, you're good at it.

986
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: You know.

987
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, out of every thing I've done professionally,

988
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: the thing that I'm proud of, Stob is I've sold

989
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: more comedy records than anybody that's ever lived.

990
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yep? Crin should put that in the

991
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: damn bio. I know, nice job, Corrin.

992
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 2: So go eat some more Moushoe Manza balls.

993
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:28,479
Speaker 1: You had to write along?

994
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 2: You sold more comedy records and Cosby Carlon and Eddie

995
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: Murphy delirious. Yes, yeah, My first comedy records sold almost

996
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: four million copies. The second one did almost the same.

997
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: The physical salities, yeah physical, these are album But what

998
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 2: that tells me is, I'll tell you what it tells me.

999
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 2: Somebody most popular ass comedian, Well, it means you were working,

1000
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 2: you were writing, Yeah, you know, And I mean I've

1001
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 2: written like twenty seven books and invented games. I've been

1002
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: very lucky to do a lot of things creatively. But

1003
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: out of everything, that tells me you worked at it,

1004
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 2: you worked, which is you know, It's part of me

1005
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: with hunting. I want to do it. I want to

1006
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: do things that aren't easy. Like when I was a kid,

1007
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 2: I just wanted to shoot a deer that had antlers.

1008
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: I just wanted to kill a deer, any antler, It

1009
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: didn't matter. You know, that's enough, you know, yeah, yeah,

1010
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 2: And there's cycles hunters go through. Then you want to

1011
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: shoot a bigger one. You want to shoot a bigger one.

1012
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 2: But you get to a point like because I was

1013
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 2: doing a lot of hunting shows. I was doing hunting

1014
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: shows for real tree and bucks of Takamani, and I

1015
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: was getting to go places and hunt really cool things

1016
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: and shoot really big deer. And I had a year

1017
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 2: where I shot a thirteen point deer. He's out there

1018
00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 2: in the in manland, out there, huge deer. Shot him

1019
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 2: with a gun and three hundred and fifty yards. And

1020
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 2: then I came back to my farm, and my farm

1021
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: enginer only bow hunted, and I was starting to play

1022
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: around with it. That's your buddy here, Glenn. And the

1023
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: next weekend I shot one hundred and thirty eight inch deer,

1024
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: but he was poping young with a bow and arrow,

1025
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 2: and I sat up there and I just shook, and

1026
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 2: I could remember being fifteen years old, and the deer

1027
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 2: I shot at three hundred and fifty yards had no

1028
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 2: idea that I was there. I didn't really have to

1029
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 2: be that stealth. I was a long way away, but

1030
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: the one I shot at thirty yards that was close

1031
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 2: and personal. And I remember I called my wife. I

1032
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: never called my wife when she's cooking dinner back at home,

1033
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: and I'm.

1034
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, I just I shot a fuck

1035
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: with my boat.

1036
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: And I thought, this is what I want to feel like,

1037
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: this is what I want hunting to feel like. And

1038
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: so I'm like, I'm not doing a gun anymore. I'm

1039
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 2: gonna hunt with a bow.

1040
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: I was horrible at it.

1041
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it took me two or three year years

1042
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 2: to even get I messed up. I kept drawing at

1043
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: the wrong time, you know, so you sat there for

1044
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: two hours waiting on a dough to come up, and

1045
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: now you draw at the wrong time, spooker and she

1046
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: runs off, and You're like, okay, I gotta wait till

1047
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: her head's behind a tree. But there was something about

1048
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: wanting to do it the hard way. And once I

1049
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 2: had started being pretty good at shooting deer with it,

1050
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to go hunt an elk.

1051
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: I want to, but not with a gun. I want to.

1052
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: And then it was a moose, and then it was

1053
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: I want to.

1054
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 2: Hunt it like I'd always kind of been fascinated with bears,

1055
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: but I had zero interest in nothing wrong with somebody

1056
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: doing this. I didn't want to shoot one over a

1057
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: barrel of doughnuts. I wanted to go find a bear

1058
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: and shoot them with my bow. Well it ended up

1059
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: doing that because and I don't know if you ever

1060
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: feel like this, but like I would watch videos of

1061
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: people hunting moose with a bow and I kept going,

1062
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 2: holy crap, that is so scary. I mean, like, roll

1063
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: up in a ball, go oh my dude, they're so close,

1064
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 2: They're so so big, so big. There's part of me

1065
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 2: that goes, do you have enough balls to do this?

1066
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: And I wanted to find out. I'm like, I wanted

1067
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: to push myself to go, do you have enough courage

1068
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: to go stand there with a stick and a string

1069
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: fifteen yards from this two thousand pounds animal. And it's

1070
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: funny like after doing it, because my wife's first question was,

1071
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: were you scared because I shoot this big bullet fifteen yards?

1072
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: And I said, in and of the moment, no, did.

1073
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: You guys call that bullet? Yeah? So he was.

1074
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: That's a timidating mane Oh yeah, I mean he's got

1075
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: his eyes rolled back. Well, here was the worst part.

1076
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: So we're going up. We're in a john boating up

1077
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 2: a river and I'm in the front of the boat

1078
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: looking for tracks or looking for sign and we've been

1079
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: in the boat for four or five hours and then

1080
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: I finally saw tracks coming out and hey, he got tracked.

1081
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 2: He went over and looked, said, it's a big bull beach.

1082
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 2: The boat go up into some kind of vegetation. It

1083
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 2: was about this high, kind of little red berries in there.

1084
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 2: And as we're just kind of standing there listening for

1085
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 2: the bull, I look down and at my feet there

1086
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,959
Speaker 2: is a pile of poop with steam coming up off

1087
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 2: of it. I mean steam is coming off. And I

1088
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 2: look at the guide and I go moose, and he

1089
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: goes grizzly, and I'm like, okay, So there's grizzly with

1090
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 2: steam coming off of it, which means he ain't far away.

1091
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 2: And then and then the w and now we're now

1092
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 2: we've got a moose coming, and I forget about the grizzly,

1093
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: but and the and he's coming in to fight. He

1094
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: destroys a ten foot tree, I mean down to nothing.

1095
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 2: He wants to fight, and and but he's kind of

1096
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: hanging up at like fifteen yards because he can't see us,

1097
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: and and in and of the moment, I was not scared,

1098
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: and I thought, oh, I'd be petrified. My only thought

1099
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 2: was turn so I can get a stick in you.

1100
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: I need.

1101
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 2: I need an ethical I mean, I need a shot.

1102
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: I need.

1103
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: And it was so hyper focused on what do I

1104
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: have to do to get an arrow in this? And

1105
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: he finally turned to walk off, and I look, and

1106
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: there's a there's a hole, and I'm so I go

1107
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 2: to full draw and I wait till he fills the hole,

1108
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 2: and I shoo to me, goes thirty yards and folds up.

1109
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: As soon as that happens. Now I've got the dreddline

1110
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: and I'm doing the stinky leg and shaking it and all.

1111
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 2: But in the moment, I wasn't scared, and I didn't

1112
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: know that about myself. I got you, and I'm like, oh,

1113
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: that's cool. You didn't freeze up, you didn't turn around

1114
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 2: and run away. You held it together. I didn't know

1115
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: that about myself. Do you uh are you into bows?

1116
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 2: Do you just go to the bow shop and be like,

1117
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: get me set up?

1118
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: And I want to show.

1119
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, I'm like, so, I was hunting with

1120
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: a Matthews for a while and I liked it, and

1121
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: but then I got a psc bow that just seemed

1122
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 2: to fit me. Like when I go in to full draw,

1123
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 2: I wasn't it wasn't jumping on me. I could hold it,

1124
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: I could draw it straight back. I've hunted with the

1125
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 2: same boat for eight years.

1126
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: You didn't. Oh, yeah, I'm not.

1127
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 2: A junkie on anything. If I get a truck, I like,

1128
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't need a new truck. It's Look

1129
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 2: at the watch I'm wearing. I mean, I've I've done

1130
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: okay in life. I'm wearing a hundred dollars watch with

1131
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 2: a broken band, you know, because it tells time. Well,

1132
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 2: I'm not a latest and greatest thing kind of guy. Yeah,

1133
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 2: I just found a bow that I liked. I'm like,

1134
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: I like this one. I'm gonna stick with this.

1135
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: You mentioned you mentioned hunt arrowheads. What was your introduction

1136
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: to that.

1137
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 2: I had found one or two, I think as a kid.

1138
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 2: But Glenn, my farm manager, had looked for him his

1139
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: whole life, and I'd go to his house and look

1140
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: at his collection. I'm like, that's pretty cool. Well, and

1141
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: I think becoming a bow hunter, as you start to go, damn,

1142
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: these people, Oh these people were pretty gas.

1143
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,439
Speaker 1: You were looking at it too from a hunting perspective. Yeah,

1144
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: I know a lot of guys that are into arrowheads

1145
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: that don't look at it from a hunting perspective, which

1146
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: always can comprised me.

1147
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by everything they do. Like they took rocks

1148
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 2: and they learned to make a knife. They learned to

1149
01:01:55,960 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: make a projectile point, they learned to make a grinder.

1150
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: A bowl and a grinder, let's mash up acorns or

1151
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 2: corn or whatever. They were such capable people. So when

1152
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 2: I look at artifacts, I'm thinking, ay, if I pick

1153
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: it up and go, all right, I'm the first human

1154
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: being in seven thousand years to hold this. But mostly

1155
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 2: I think about there were some woman or some man

1156
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: sitting here making this, not thinking oh this is pretty

1157
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,479
Speaker 2: or this is artistic. They're thinking I need to carve

1158
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 2: up that squirrel tonight for dinner. They were making it

1159
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 2: to live, and I think that's what got me kind

1160
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 2: of fascinated with it. And the first trip I ever

1161
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 2: went on, Glenn took me on a trip up to

1162
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: North Carolina. He had a buddy that was planting strawberries, and.

1163
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you guys, we'll go. Every day you'll travel,

1164
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: you'll go like on a hunting trip, but to go

1165
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: if you get an opportunity to go. Look something like

1166
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: I just.

1167
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 2: Did a thing for wounded warriors out in Texas. Well,

1168
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: I knew it was going to be out there, and

1169
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 2: I called a friend that was close by. I go, hey,

1170
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 2: you got any buddies of the arrowhead hunt? And he goes, yeah,

1171
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 2: I got a friend that loves it. And I'm like,

1172
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: find out if we can go with him. So I

1173
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: fly out there and do something good, do the Wounded

1174
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 2: Warrior show.

1175
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: They raise like a million bucks. It was cool.

1176
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 2: But then the next morning we're out looking for arrowheads,

1177
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: so try to combine them together now, and.

1178
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: Then you have a lot of stuff from this property

1179
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: you were showing me. Yeah, but I don't mean to

1180
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: criticize it, but you even said it too. It's like

1181
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: it's ugly. It's ugly, but it's ugly because of.

1182
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 2: They didn't have They didn't have rock to work, they

1183
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 2: didn't have flint. They had courts, which is very hard

1184
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 2: to make thin and pretty. It was functional, but they

1185
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: just don't make pretty arrowheads. But like, I made friends

1186
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 2: in Arkansas that have beautiful flint. I made friends in

1187
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 2: Texas that have beautiful flint. I have friends in Kentucky.

1188
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 2: So hell, we'll get in the car and drive to Kentucky.

1189
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 2: If somebody says, I've got a plowfield and it's rained.

1190
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, what were you mentioned? You're going where someone was

1191
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 1: putting in strawberries.

1192
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they had plowed this field and it

1193
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: was going to rain, and they're fixing the planet. Yeah,

1194
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: they're fixing, but they hadn't planted it yet, but they

1195
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 2: plowed it. But when you plow it, it's kind of

1196
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: dusty and you can't really see anything. So you need

1197
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 2: it to rain in a time or two. But the

1198
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 2: guy said, he said, y'all better be up here in

1199
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 2: the morning or the meth heads will kill it, cause

1200
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 2: the meth heads will go out there and look for

1201
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 2: airheads and sell them. That's my kind of meth head man. Yeah,

1202
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 2: I never heard of that before.

1203
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: Dude.

1204
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: You can go up there. It can rain that night,

1205
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 2: and you can be there at sunrise and the field

1206
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: is covered in footprints and you're like, how is this

1207
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: humanly possible? How do you do this? And so the

1208
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 2: first place I ever went with him, i'd walked thirty

1209
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: feet from the truck and I saw some thought it

1210
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 2: was a.

1211
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: Piece off attractor, like a spark plug. Picked it up.

1212
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm looking around. They had and pottery and things, and

1213
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 2: as I'm doing it, I'm like, I don't feel like

1214
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: plastic and it's a.

1215
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: Pipe, you know. Yeah, so fine, it's because you were

1216
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: you were when you're doing that. Like how when you're

1217
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: looking on the ground you'll sometimes hold something in you

1218
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: just kind of worry it.

1219
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I worry it. That's great because I'm always got

1220
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 2: something in my hand whatever, the most interesting things. Yeah,

1221
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 2: oh that's a cool rock. You'll walk around with it

1222
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 2: in your hand. It's whirl it in your thumb.

1223
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. So uh.

1224
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: And I'm like, crap, that's not a tractor part. That's

1225
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 2: a pipe. It was a stone pipe. And I go

1226
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: over to Glenn, who's been looking for thirty years, and

1227
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 2: I go, dude, look what I found. He was so

1228
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: pissed he turned around and walked straight away from me,

1229
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 2: didn't talk to me the rest of the day.

1230
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: Mmm. But then I was hooked. If you ever do

1231
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: go do Rogan show, you should bring that pipe. Let him, uh,

1232
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: let him pull a rip, Let him pull a rip

1233
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: off that pipe. Man, he probably get a real kick

1234
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: out of it. Yeah, Native American. Yeah, why not, right,

1235
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: he'd probably love that. So.

1236
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 2: Uh how much time he's spend hunting though, Like you

1237
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 2: get some time out now, Yeah, I get some time out.

1238
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: You know.

1239
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 2: I'm kind of weird. Like I just had a friend

1240
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: that went to Africa, because I've been to Africa, but

1241
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: not to hunt. Been to Africa like six times. I'd

1242
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: like to do it, but I'm kind of weird. Like

1243
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 2: he wanted to go hunt a leopard. I have no desire.

1244
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to shoot something I'm not going to eat.

1245
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with that. I'm just this is me.

1246
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 2: This is the way I'm weird. There's some guys that

1247
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 2: have foot fetishes, right, and I'm and I look at

1248
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 2: them and go, have you seen boobs? Because they're they're

1249
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: not bad either, you know, but uh, I mean but

1250
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 2: to each is, well, here's the thing about the foot

1251
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: fetish too. What he views as gerie I call a

1252
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 2: flip flop, right, I mean, but so when I say that,

1253
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 2: I'm not being critical of somebody that wants to hunt

1254
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 2: a leopard. And that's just the way I'm wired is

1255
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 2: if I shoot something, I want to eat it. So

1256
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 2: but I would like to go I'd like to go

1257
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 2: to Africa and bow hunt, and I still hunt with

1258
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 2: a gun, Like I just go, Yeah, Well.

1259
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: I thought, maybe you gave it all up for your

1260
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: bowl big game. I hunt with a bow. But like, like,

1261
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: I just got turned onto duck hunting. I had my

1262
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: neck fhews ten years ago and the doctor said two things.

1263
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: Don't look up and don't shoot a shotgun. That rules

1264
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: I'll duck hunt.

1265
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 2: Well apparently not, because I tried it and I like it.

1266
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 2: And now I'm like, I'll I'll deal with the pain

1267
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 2: because this is a lot of fun.

1268
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: Well, what's in your head? Is there? Like a like

1269
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: how do you how do you tell when you've scratched

1270
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: the itch for a year? Right? Like for me, I'll

1271
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: if there's I like the hunt turkeys a lot, okay,

1272
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: so late May whatever, I'll be in my head. I

1273
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: don't think of how many turkeys I got. I don't

1274
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: think of how many days I hunted turkeys. I think

1275
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: of like, well, how many successful hunts was I in on? Yeah?

1276
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: Meaning my kid got one my buddy got one like

1277
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: that I was trying to shoot. I could shoot none

1278
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: of them, wouldn't matter. And if I finished the spring

1279
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I was in on six

1280
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: turkey kills. That's pretty good, then I'll be like, oh,

1281
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 1: that's pretty good spring. Yeah. You know, when the big

1282
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: game season ends, when it's all said and done, I'll

1283
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: kind of look at was there one particular Did I

1284
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: get some particular animal that I was real excited about?

1285
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: And do I have a whole mountain of stuff started

1286
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: up in freezers? Yeah? And if it's checked, I'm good.

1287
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: You know, how do you how do you know? How

1288
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: do you know that your hunting life as well?

1289
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 2: I think we go through stages as a hunter. First

1290
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 2: it's I want to shoot a deer. Now I want

1291
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 2: to shoot a deer with horns. Now I want to

1292
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: shoot a deer with bigger horns.

1293
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: Now I want to.

1294
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: Shoot a really big deer. And so I've been through

1295
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 2: all those stages. Now I'm like you, if I can

1296
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 2: take a kid who's never done it and introduce it

1297
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 2: to him, that's every bit of rewarding, is shooting a.

1298
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: Deer like that.

1299
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 2: I think that's the thing I loved about bow hunting. Uh,

1300
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 2: And kind of that conversion on big game stuff was

1301
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 2: I'd shot a lot.

1302
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: Of big deer with it.

1303
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,799
Speaker 2: Shotting, there's your might be a redneck word shotting shotting,

1304
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 2: I'd shotten a lot of.

1305
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1306
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 2: The guy that didn't like crescendo, he's got real problems

1307
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 2: with shot He's don't even know where to start when

1308
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 2: he writes that letter. But but like when you were

1309
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: gun hunting and you'd go, hey, there's a deer, there's

1310
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 2: oh crap, it's a doe. When you're bow hunting, you're like, oh, hell,

1311
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 2: here comes a dough. You know, everything's in play, Everything

1312
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 2: is in play. And I like that about it because

1313
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 2: it's hard. Man, it's hard to get a stick. You

1314
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 2: got to let him get. And a friend of mine

1315
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 2: who loves big bucks, he said, well, what do you

1316
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 2: do if you're bow hunting and the buck comes out

1317
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 2: of one hundred yards across the field? And I said,

1318
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 2: he wins today, But now I know a way that

1319
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 2: he where he likes to cross, and I'm going to

1320
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: move my stand closer. But he wins today.

1321
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:41,879
Speaker 1: And you're excited about having a grandkit.

1322
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:46,879
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh, the greatest joy of my life. Honest

1323
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 2: to God, you get to the point where you think

1324
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: you've kind of got life figured out.

1325
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: I had no idea I was going to love a

1326
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: grandkid this much. I got a body that's got in

1327
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: your grandkid. He told me he likes that grandkid better,

1328
01:10:58,120 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: and he ever liked any of his kids.

1329
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I told you, I help my kids. I hold

1330
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 2: my grandson and I go. I love you, and I

1331
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: would lay down my life for you. I would die

1332
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 2: for you. But I do not love you as much

1333
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 2: as I love him. I don't love my wife as

1334
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 2: much as I love you. He is my favorite human

1335
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 2: being of all time. Well, and I had all girls,

1336
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 2: and I love being girls. I love being a girl. Dad,

1337
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 2: what was that track record? Everybody in my family had girls.

1338
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: We had eleven girls in a roow. He's the first

1339
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 2: boy in fifty eight years, like you and your you

1340
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 2: have you two siblings and you.

1341
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: Guys run off.

1342
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and no boys. So he's the first boy. And

1343
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 2: like yesterday morning, he comes out in his pajamas, he's

1344
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 2: pulling on his green ruber boots, he's got a stumb

1345
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 2: in his mouth. He goes, checks, let's go ride a tractor.

1346
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 2: And I'm like hell, yeah, let's go ride a tractor.

1347
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 2: I let him drive the truck. I let him sit

1348
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: my light, laugh and drive.

1349
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: He's two and a half. That's fun.

1350
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, but god he's whatever bat I ever did, he

1351
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: makes up for. I've got a great life, you know.

1352
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 2: I've made a fabulous live in doing something that would

1353
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 2: have done for free, because I love what I do.

1354
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 1: Love.

1355
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: I love that comedy. It's it's very rewarding. You're making

1356
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: people laugh. It's it's like the release five that keeps

1357
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 2: people spoiler from exploding you. But it's not easy. I

1358
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 2: love the fact that you never get you never get

1359
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 2: it figured out. After forty years, you would think I

1360
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: would know what people are going to laugh at and

1361
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: what they're not going to I still don't know. She's like,

1362
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: it's like the woman you can't figure out. But that's

1363
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: what keeps her interesting is I can't figure out. Because

1364
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 2: after forty years, I can go up there and go,

1365
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 2: hey is this funny and it's crickets nothing.

1366
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: And you're like, wow, really it's not funny. So I

1367
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: have that as a career. I have a fun which

1368
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: I love. Man, I don't need I don't need shiny cars.

1369
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 2: I don't need. I love this. I love I love

1370
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: being able to grow my own food. I love being

1371
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 2: able to hunt my own food. I love being able

1372
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 2: to share a sunrise, you know, with friends of mine.

1373
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 2: And I've never spent one day in the woods where

1374
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 2: I went crap that wasn't worth it mm hmm, because

1375
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 2: you always see something, see a hall, catch a squirrel,

1376
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 2: or you know, like today you and I stopped and

1377
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 2: there's two otters chasing fish man. Yeah, you're like, that

1378
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 2: was cool. Yeah, there's always something like that. So I've

1379
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 2: got a farm, I've got a great job. I've got

1380
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 2: a wife that I adore, been married for forty years,

1381
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 2: got grandkids, I got kids out of door. I'm like,

1382
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what I did, but thank you. I

1383
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 2: have got a great life. Well, thank you for coming

1384
01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 2: on the show.

1385
01:13:58,479 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 1: Man.

1386
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm fascinated by you. I like what you do,

1387
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 2: and I like that you humanize hunters.

1388
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: You know.

1389
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 2: It's like I was doing something in La and they

1390
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 2: were you know, you you guys just shoot everything you see.

1391
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 2: I said, are you kidding me? I said, During the

1392
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 2: course of a deer season, I will see four hundred deer.

1393
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 2: I might shoot four dos in a buck. I said,

1394
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 2: and you tell me you love them, you don't love

1395
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 2: them more than I do, because I'm out on a

1396
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 2: bulldozer creating habitat for them. I'm out burning to give

1397
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 2: them more native food.

1398
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm out. Don't tell me you love them more. Night. No,

1399
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: you could say to them and said, if you don't

1400
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: think I love deer, I'd like to take you for

1401
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 1: a little drive. Yeah.

1402
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 2: But what I want is as many as my land

1403
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 2: can hold with them being healthy. I want it right

1404
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 2: there to the top. But it's it's not an infinite

1405
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 2: number of deer. So and I've seen chronic wasting disease.

1406
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 2: I've seen it's when nature takes care of it. It's ugly,

1407
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 2: much more humane. And I don't and I'm not shooting them.

1408
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 2: It's not the killing. It's every one of them somebody eats.

1409
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 2: It's it's a food source, you know. So, and if

1410
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 2: you don't like it, that's okay. I don't have to

1411
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 2: like everything you do, but I like the fact that

1412
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 2: you show that you know you just you don't have

1413
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 2: to like it, but I do. And it's legal, and

1414
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 2: it's it's good, it's fascinating. It's the biggest classroom in

1415
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 2: the world is the outdoors.

1416
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: Yep, well man, thanks for thanks for being a hunter,

1417
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 1: Thanks for making everybody laugh and making everyone laugh without

1418
01:15:53,720 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: capitalizing on hate and discord, but just laughing at yourself. Man, Yeah,

1419
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: laughing at ourselves. And I think we've.

1420
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 2: Kind of forgotten how to do this is right now

1421
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 2: in society people are people have to be right, which

1422
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 2: means you have to be wrong, which means we're not

1423
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: going to have conversation because I'm not going to engage

1424
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 2: in a conversation where I have.

1425
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: To be wrong.

1426
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 2: And we need to give up our need to be right.

1427
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 2: Because what you find as you age is things that

1428
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 2: you argued vehemently for as you were twenty. Now I

1429
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 2: find myself argued vehemently against. I'm like you, learn and

1430
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 2: you know, we're all wrong about something. We're The truth is,

1431
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 2: we're all wrong about a lot of things. But we

1432
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 2: have to engage in those conversations. So, like with you,

1433
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 2: I want to know what you know that I don't know.

1434
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 2: Those are the conversations I.

1435
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 1: Like to have. I think a way to describe aging.

1436
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: One way to describe aging would be it's a process

1437
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: by which you become less and less interested in your

1438
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: own opinion. Agreed.

1439
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I told my kids, I said, I miss my

1440
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 2: thirty year old body, but I wouldn't trade my sixty

1441
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 2: year old mind and soul.

1442
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: To get it back. Because you realize so.

1443
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 2: Many things you wanted to fight about when you're young,

1444
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 2: you get old, it ain't worth it. It'll sort itself out.

1445
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 2: Half the things you worry about more than half. Ninety

1446
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 2: percent of the things you worry about, they never happen,

1447
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 2: and so you kind of there is a wisdom that comes,

1448
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 2: and that wisdom comes with Everything's not a confrontation you

1449
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 2: and I. Here's the thing I think politically, you can

1450
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 2: have two people on total opposite ends of the spectrum.

1451
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 2: But if you sat them down and you said, what

1452
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 2: do you want out of lie? What do you care about?

1453
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 2: What you we would agree on eighty five percent of

1454
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 2: the same things. We all want to be able to

1455
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 2: take care of our family. We want to be able

1456
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 2: to take care of our kids, We want them to

1457
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:12,759
Speaker 2: live in a safe place. We want to have food

1458
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 2: in our stomach. Fifteen percent would be different. What we

1459
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 2: should celebrate is that eighty five percent that we're alike.

1460
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 2: You and I grew up in different parts of the

1461
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 2: country different ways. But as we sit here and talk,

1462
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 2: we realize, oh, Steve and I are a lot alike

1463
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 2: on this and the parts that are different. That's what

1464
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 2: makes you Steve and what makes me Jeff. But what

1465
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 2: we want to do right now is we want to

1466
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 2: fight and scream and yell at each other about the

1467
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 2: fifteen percent instead of going crap, eighty five percent You

1468
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 2: and I want the same thing. Why why aren't we

1469
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 2: based in that we can talk about the other. But

1470
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 2: how boring would it be if we all want it

1471
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 2: and thought alike, you know, crap?

1472
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: That would be.

1473
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 2: That's one of the things I love about nature is

1474
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 2: And if you don't have faith, I don't care. I do,

1475
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 2: but I sit there and go God's infinitely creative. Like

1476
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 2: there's thousands of different kinds of trees. If you ask

1477
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 2: me to come up with trees after four.

1478
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm out of idea. Like I'm gonna do

1479
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: a little one, a medium. Yeah, I'm done.

1480
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 2: I'm done. Or you know, types of things in the ocean. Man,

1481
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 2: there's a fish, you know, and you go, crap, how

1482
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 2: many different kinds of fish are there? Well, for people

1483
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 2: that love the outdoors, it's always That's what I mean.

1484
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 2: It's kind of a it's a classroom.

1485
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: You're like, all of this works together.

1486
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 2: You know, as the squirrels sitting there chewing on the

1487
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 2: pine combe, some of those kernels are going down and

1488
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 2: into the soil and becoming pine trees. Well, there's you know,

1489
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 2: within a square foot of dirt, there's forty thousand organisms

1490
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 2: living in that and they all do something. These these

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01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 2: leaves above it that are decaying or feeding something that

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01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 2: feeds something else, and it's all tied together, and it's

1493
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 2: way more brilliant and smarter than I have the compet

1494
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 2: the ability to understand. So I'm just going to sit

1495
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 2: here and soak it all in and go, wow, isn't

1496
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 2: that cool.

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01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 1: It's a great place to do that and experience that.

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01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: And the thing that you were getting at a mintical

1499
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 1: about that eighty five fifteen percent eighty five percent of

1500
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: stuff brings us together, fifteen percent is different. There's been

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01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: a like this idea I've been toying around in my

1502
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: head about when I and I've talked about this a

1503
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 1: number of times, is I compare sometimes my lived experience, right,

1504
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: like what happens me going about my day, going to

1505
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: a gas station down the road from here, whatever what happens,

1506
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: going about my day, and then me reading about what

1507
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: my American life is supposed to be like, yeah, and

1508
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 1: in reading about what my American life, life is supposed

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01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 1: to be like, it's supposed to be defined by polarization,

1510
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:12,799
Speaker 1: political violence, right, yeah, whatever, all of this economic strain,

1511
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: social economic upheaval, you know. And I'm like, go, Okay,

1512
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 1: I got it, that's what life's like. But why is

1513
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:25,839
Speaker 1: that not line up at all with what your experience

1514
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 1: with what happens when I'm like talking to my neighbors,

1515
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: who I don't know the first thing about where they

1516
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: are at politically, or why does that not happen when

1517
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: I go into a gas station? Why are people cool

1518
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 1: when I get into an uber? Why am I able

1519
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 1: to you know what I mean? Like, how am I

1520
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: supposed to be having this but instead I'm having this? Well?

1521
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,719
Speaker 1: In which one's those things? Which of those do you believe?

1522
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: Which is the truth? I'm leaning toward thinking that the

1523
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: lived one is the truth. It is the truth. You

1524
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 1: follow me.

1525
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 2: I've gotten to the point I say when I walk

1526
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 2: on stage, and I do I said, I'm standing on

1527
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 2: the sides of the stage. I remind myself that everybody

1528
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 2: that I'm going to look at is going through some

1529
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 2: kind of a struggle. And now it might be a

1530
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 2: physical struggle, it might be emotional, it might be financial,

1531
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 2: but they're going through something. And that's why, really my

1532
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: whole life, I'm like, just have grace with people because

1533
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 2: you don't know their backstory, you don't know what they're

1534
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 2: going through, So have a little grace with them. And

1535
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 2: I think that's the cool thing about laughter is you know,

1536
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 2: we're all in a struggle. That's why I love what

1537
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 2: I do is I can go visit kids in the

1538
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 2: hospital and they might have my book, or they might

1539
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 2: have my game, or they might have my DVD, and

1540
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 2: they didn't know I was coming. So there's something that

1541
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 2: I've created that has given them an escape from the

1542
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 2: struggle that they're going through. And I went, oh, that's

1543
01:22:55,880 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: kind of a cool benefit to this. But yeah, we

1544
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 2: don't give each other much grace. You know, you don't know,

1545
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 2: Like I worked it a totally under the radar, didn't

1546
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 2: want anybody to know but get up every week and

1547
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 2: I worked down at a homeless shelter in downtown Line

1548
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 2: for twelve years get up on Tuesday morning five o'clock

1549
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 2: and go down there and work. And my opinion of

1550
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 2: homeless used to be like, oh, you're too lazy to work.

1551
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: Or you're well.

1552
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 2: Most of them were in some kind of addiction. But

1553
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 2: if you learn their story, if you come to learn

1554
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 2: their story, something bad happened. They were molested, they were abused,

1555
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: they were and so the addiction wasn't really the problem

1556
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 2: that that was the symptom. That was I got to

1557
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 2: numb this painful feeling and then you start having grace

1558
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 2: with them going crap, dude, I would have numbed too.

1559
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 2: We need to get back as a as a society,

1560
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 2: just start doing that with each other. Uh happened some grace,

1561
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 2: So quit yelling life's too short.

1562
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Crack some jokes instead. Yeah, fry up some venison.

1563
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 2: Pry up some venison. Crack some jokes. If you don't

1564
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 2: want to eat the venison, fine hand it to me.

1565
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 1: I'll eat it. Well, man, I want to thank you

1566
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: again for coming on the show. I really appreciate it. Well,

1567
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: I thanks for the tour of the place.

1568
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always been such an admirer of what you do.

1569
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 2: So it's I'm honored that you would be here, that

1570
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 2: you would take the time to be here.

1571
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: Oh no, Once I realized you weren't going to come

1572
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: to me, I decided to come to you. So so

1573
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 1: suck it, Rogan. Not really.

1574
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 2: I love what he does too. Thanks a lot, man,

1575
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Yeah, for sure, come back and

1576
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 2: hunt and fish.

1577
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 1: I will. I'll bring my kids.

1578
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, please bring your kids. That'd be the number one

1579
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 2: reason you guys could stay here and break everything in here.

1580
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: Great. Thank you.

1581
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 3: Rack coon pecker, old man in my mountains, keep his

1582
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 3: hat together, Rack coon pecker. Use this tooth thick. It'll

1583
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 3: last forever. Rack coon pecker, best toothpick in town. Well,

1584
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 3: you see, now, I was driving down the road and

1585
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 3: I uh stumbled upon this sheer raccoon there, and I

1586
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 3: ran him over, hit him with my car. Looked at

1587
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 3: this old son of a gun and seeing that he

1588
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 3: has a pecker, not just any kind of pecker, a

1589
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 3: rack coon pecker. Put him in your hat. It holds

1590
01:25:54,160 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 3: it together, Rack coon pecker. I'm in my tooth. Raccoon pecker,

1591
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:09,799
Speaker 3: gonna pick it out, raccoon pecker.

1592
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: Leave it on a tree.

1593
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 3: It for dicks.

1594
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 1: The weather.

1595
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 3: Rain falling off.

1596
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:19,719
Speaker 1: You know it's rain.

1597
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 3: It as dry as a bone.

1598
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 1: It's it's it's right stiff as hell.

1599
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 3: It's old ice cold. Old lady gonna give you the

1600
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 3: bone because it's a racon pecker. Can I put it

1601
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 3: in my hand to keep my hat together?

1602
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: Peanut it, and my tooth is gonna pick it on,

1603
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: or raccoon picker. There ain't no doubt