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Speaker 1: to Drew Nelson, Crime Stories contributing reporter Drew, please explain

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Speaker 1: Some people think it's unfair. I don't. No, it's not unfair, Nancy.

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Speaker 1: It's logical and it's it's pragmatic that the idea here

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories Your Owner. On August eighteen, two thousand seven,

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Speaker 1: What can you tell me about Brooke Cruise and the

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Speaker 1: duty to fight crime, I would love to do something else,

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Speaker 1: like my original dream of being a Shakespearean professor. But

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Speaker 1: Joe's got Morgan. When you're in this world, you see

431
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Speaker 1: one horrific crime after the next, after the next, and

432
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Speaker 1: every time I think, I don't I've never seen anything

433
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Speaker 1: like it in my life. But I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan. Finding a young mom's body dead wrapped

435
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Speaker 1: in plastic, and then you unwrapped that plastic and find

436
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: her sliced from her chest to her pubic area. That's

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Speaker 1: how you find the body. I mean, that's one of

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Speaker 1: the worst things I've ever heard. I've got to say

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Speaker 1: Joe Scott. Yeah, it rinks right up there for me

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00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: as well, Nancy. Uh And let's just go back for

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Speaker 1: a second and think about what this young mother to

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Speaker 1: be would have endured because to the best of my knowledge, um,

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Speaker 1: there's no anesthesia applied here. Uh as Dr Tiffany had

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Speaker 1: pointed out. Uh, this, this young young mother to be

445
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Speaker 1: was was not ready to give birth yet she's only

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Speaker 1: eight months along at this point. Uh So. And the

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Speaker 1: thing about it is they have to keep her alive

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Speaker 1: long enough so that the child remains viable. And that

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Speaker 1: begs the question. I think this is gonna come in

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Speaker 1: with court, and I know that you, being the prosecutor

451
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Speaker 1: that you are, you would really make a point of this.

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00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: This woman suffered as they took some type of edged

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Speaker 1: weapon and sliced her body open and then sliced her

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Speaker 1: womb open to get access to this body, and all

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Speaker 1: the while she's there in terror. She's not just fearing

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Speaker 1: for her life and the pain that she's having to

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Speaker 1: go through, but also what is going to happen to

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Speaker 1: this precious life that is inside of my body? Now?

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Speaker 1: I want to go to brook Cruise mid thirties, who

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Speaker 1: ends up in court. This is Savannah's friend, her next

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Speaker 1: door neighbor. I mean, Ah ends up in court pleading

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Speaker 1: guilty now, so that means there's no question that she

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Speaker 1: did this. She is saying under oath, she is guilty

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Speaker 1: of this grizzly murder of twenty two year old Savannah

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Speaker 1: gray Wind. Interesting her boyfriend is pleading not guilty. I

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Speaker 1: think I smell States testimony in the works. But listen

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Speaker 1: to what happened in court your own. On August eighteen,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, team and defendant learned Savannah La

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Speaker 1: Fontaine gray Wind, who was eight months pregnant, up to

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Speaker 1: her apartment as a part of a conspiracy to murder

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Speaker 1: Savanna and steal her onborn baby. Savannah's body was found

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Speaker 1: in the Red River on August seven, two thousand seventeen.

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Speaker 1: The baby was not with her. The count one conspiracy

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Speaker 1: to commit murder. How do you play? And if the

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Speaker 1: court sentences you to a sentence greater than you anticipated,

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Speaker 1: you will not be allowed to withdraw your plead. Do

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Speaker 1: you understand that? I understand? Rather, now take a listen

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Speaker 1: to this defendant, Brooke Crew, who is facing life in

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Speaker 1: prison after pleading guilty. Listen to what her sister says,

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Speaker 1: w d A Y six or foter Amy and tells

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Speaker 1: us about brook Crews past and how family learned about

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Speaker 1: the charges against their loved one Amy. We spoke with

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Speaker 1: Don Dyer, one of brook Crews older sisters who lives

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Speaker 1: in North Carolina now. She said after reading about this

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Speaker 1: crime online, she noticed a big change and who she

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Speaker 1: remembers as her sibling. You just don't look the same

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Speaker 1: she looks like. But even with her change in appearance,

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Speaker 1: Dyer says she never thought her sister would be capable

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Speaker 1: of such a vicious act. She described Cruise in her

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Speaker 1: younger years as free and caring, even though she was

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Speaker 1: abused and had a criminal father. Dire says through the

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Speaker 1: years they grew aparts, but she wishes she would have

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Speaker 1: been able to notice her sister's need for mental health

494
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Speaker 1: help to possibly keep this from happening. Really really are

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Speaker 1: sorry for their love and I don't wish her upon

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Speaker 1: anyone and maybe mind history. You know, it was like

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Speaker 1: metally gone and I are also said she knew Cruis

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Speaker 1: had three or four children, but just learned this week

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Speaker 1: she has seven kids. So to Dr Tiffany sand Or,

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Speaker 1: Chicago psychologists, how do you live without the rest of

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Speaker 1: your life behind bars? I mean, I guess if you're

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Speaker 1: vicious enough to do the crime, it really doesn't bother

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Speaker 1: that well, it should bother her because she's gonna have

504
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Speaker 1: plenty of time to think about. You know, what she

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Speaker 1: did and how she uh pretty much ruined her life,

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Speaker 1: her boyfriend's life, and the lives of this beautiful young

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Speaker 1: child who was just born and snatched away from her

508
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Speaker 1: mother and Nancy. You want to think about what was

509
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Speaker 1: the psyche behind it? Was she that blinded by her

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Speaker 1: own sense of greed and selfishness that she would cause

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Speaker 1: that amount of immense pain. She had to literally block

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Speaker 1: out the screens, the tears, the agony that that young

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Speaker 1: girl was going in. It's truly unimaginable. So I hope

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Speaker 1: she has many many years behind bars to suffer from

515
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: her own PTSD reminded from that imagery over and over

516
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Speaker 1: and over again, because that was just unnecessary. As we

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Speaker 1: await the sentencing um, this perpetrator who has played guilty

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Speaker 1: under oath, Brooke Crews, mid thirties, who has admitted that

519
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Speaker 1: she murdered her neighbor her friend, slicing her body open

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Speaker 1: to steal her baby. The baby is alive, by the way,

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Speaker 1: the baby was found in her apartment that she shares

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Speaker 1: with her living boyfriend, so not a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: questioning there. I think at first they tried to say

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Speaker 1: that she had dropped the baby off to babysitting the

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Speaker 1: baby or Sun Sun a story like that. Well that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just keeping my eye on the live in boyfriend,

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Speaker 1: William Hone, aged thirty two, who has pled not guilty. Okay,

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Speaker 1: his trial is coming up, and I've got a pretty

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Speaker 1: good idea who's going to be a state's witness against him,

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Speaker 1: e Dondre dennist Alan, you've got a question? Yes, Nancy.

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Speaker 1: As I listened to this discussion, it makes me ask

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Speaker 1: how can a baby survive being cut out of its

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Speaker 1: mother's womb by a criminal who is not medically trained? Cesarean?

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Speaker 1: Births in a hospital are not simple by a doctor.

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Speaker 1: And if the mother's already dead, could the baby still

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Speaker 1: be alive? Does the cutting half have to happen while

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Speaker 1: the mother is alive. That's a horrible thing to imagine.

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Speaker 1: So I've called our expert, Dr William Moroney to find out.

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Speaker 1: Dr Moroney, we have a case where a woman has

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Speaker 1: admitted to cutting a baby out of an eight month

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Speaker 1: pregnant woman and the baby survived and the baby is

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Speaker 1: doing fine right now, how does this happen? Childbirth? Cesarean

575
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Speaker 1: is not a simple thing. Was this pure luck? Or

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Speaker 1: is this something that actually happens in a baby can survive? Well,

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00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: the baby can survive, but you always have to ask

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Speaker 1: about the mother's health. Babies are extremely resilient, and delivering

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Speaker 1: the birth of a baby through cesarean process really puts

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Speaker 1: about of the trauma and the laceration and the blood

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Speaker 1: pressure risk and the infection all on the mother. In

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Speaker 1: order to do this in a hospital, a woman needs

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Speaker 1: anesthesia and professionals. To do it outside of the hospital,

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Speaker 1: she would have to have been drugged or beaten and

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Speaker 1: tied down or subdued or killed. And then you need

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Speaker 1: five or six minutes to go through three muscle layers

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Speaker 1: the body, heavity and two uh carefully enter the side

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Speaker 1: of the uterus. Based on the size of the baby.

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Speaker 1: It's really clear where you need to cut, but you

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Speaker 1: have five or six minutes to get that baby out

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Speaker 1: before the baby becomes an oxy. The mother takes all

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Speaker 1: the trauma well. In this case, the mother was found

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Speaker 1: dead later by kayakers in a river, wrapped up in

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Speaker 1: plastic and taped up, so we kind of know the

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Speaker 1: route that this woman took. She would have wanted to

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Speaker 1: keep the woman alive while she cut the baby out.

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Speaker 1: Is that right? If you directly contribute to the death

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Speaker 1: of the mother, you have five minutes plus or minus

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Speaker 1: to get that baby out before it gets an oxic.

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Speaker 1: Without oxygen, that baby will die and have brain death.

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Speaker 1: So what possibly would have happened was the mother was

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Speaker 1: bound up t I do you think subdued, knocked out

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Speaker 1: or whatever before this happened, and then apparently without drugs

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Speaker 1: or any kind of medical instrument, the child was just

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Speaker 1: cut out, as you say, through three layers of muscle,

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Speaker 1: three layers of muscle of body cavity, and then cut

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Speaker 1: open the uterus. Cutting open uterus would be very similar

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Speaker 1: to cutting open a punkin or a large watermelon. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you google this and find out how

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Speaker 1: you're going to do it, But if you've got a

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Speaker 1: plan to steal your neighbor's baby in that brutal fashion,

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Speaker 1: I guess you either have to know what you're doing

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Speaker 1: or get kind of lucky. I suppose because it's not

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't think it would be an obvious thing to

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Speaker 1: know how to do. No, it wouldn't. And that's where

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Speaker 1: you put the life of the baby at risk after

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Speaker 1: you get it out by not having proper postpartum care.

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Speaker 1: But how you'd actually do it would be in a

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Speaker 1: b G y N doctors. And the bottom line on

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Speaker 1: this is she really didn't care about the mother. That

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Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense because when you go in

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Speaker 1: the hospital, it's the care of the mother that's the

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Speaker 1: primary concern, and postpartum care of the mother and the

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Speaker 1: baby are what professionals are trained for. Once you consider

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Speaker 1: the mother to be a crime victim and disposable, this

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Speaker 1: is it's very dark, but it can be done, and

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Speaker 1: it is done. I mean, this case we're talking about

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Speaker 1: right now is not the only time it's been done.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just something we see in the movies. No.

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Speaker 1: In the last decade that we've been on true crime

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Speaker 1: stories in the network, we've seen this handful of times.

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Speaker 1: This happens often, but of course, how do you explain

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Speaker 1: the baby. And in this case, the woman and her

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Speaker 1: boyfriend had been arrested, the body was found, the baby

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Speaker 1: recovered alive, and now it's safe with the father. But

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Speaker 1: if one thing had gone wrong, this baby would not

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Speaker 1: be with us. It's very clear that there's some twisted

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Speaker 1: pathology behind the person doing this. This is severe mental

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Speaker 1: illness and it causes literally the murder of another person.

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Speaker 1: But there's there's no way to explain this, and we

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