1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, A production 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio, Hello and Happy Friday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: and I'm Holly Frye. We spent all of this week 4 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: talking about Peter Kerpotkin and anarchistic communism, not something we 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: have spent a lot of time really diving into on 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: the show before. I thought about doing this episode during 7 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: early COVID. It didn't work out, but it was because 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: there was such flourishing is the wrong word, because it 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: was happening in response to a government action that was 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: not happening, but like there was an influx of mutual 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: aid programs, organizations of people trying to like work in 12 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: their own communities, trying to help people, trying to meet 13 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: needs that were not being met, of which there were many. 14 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: And I realized pretty quickly that it was it would 15 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: need to be a much bigger episode than what I 16 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: was sort of thinking. Right, I just didn't quite have it. 17 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: But then here we are now in the year twenty 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: twenty six, Still a lot of need happening, Still a 19 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: lot of mutual support and aid going on for a 20 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: lot of different reasons. Still also a lot of calls 21 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: for change, in the government the US, and Wow, at 22 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: least for me, I don't know why why algorithms, algorithms 23 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: think that I want this, but I am continually being 24 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: served discourse about like people who want to make reforms 25 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: within the existing government of the United States and people 26 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: who want to throw it all out and start over, 27 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: just what kurpot can advocating. Yeah, I mean, I think 28 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: if you're I think, if you're in any way looking 29 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: at anything political these days, you're going to get that eventually, 30 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: because I get it too, just the same arguments over 31 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: and over. There are a lot of things that Krapotkin 32 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: wrote about that I definitely find appealing. So I love 33 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: the idea of everybody having enough and nobody being left behind, 34 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: and nobody being you know, under the thumb of an 35 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: oppressive government machine, all of that in favor of But 36 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm also like, we live in such an even more 37 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: globally interconnected world than during Krapotkin's lifetime, right right, just 38 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: vastly vastly interconnected. Like I was sort of just thinking 39 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: this morning, I was like, international air travel, how would 40 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: one do that without governments? And some people are probably like, 41 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: we just wouldn't have international air trap anymore. I mean, 42 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: which I just think of Star Trek. They figured it out, 43 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: they did well, there was still like there were still governments, right, Yeah, 44 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: So like the the communism slash socialism questions like those 45 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: are there's one. That's one set of questions. Yeah, and 46 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: like the sort of Star Trek utopia of everyone having 47 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: enough and they're not being you know, capitalist monetary structures happening. Yeah, 48 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: Like that's one thing, but the not having governments like 49 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: that is an additional whole thing. Yeah, I mean I 50 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: think it starts to be like how do you define 51 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: a government? Right? Like could there be a coalition of 52 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: transportation organizations that enable something like that? But then so 53 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, if they are all all of this depends 54 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: on like the goodwill out truism and noble efforts of humans, 55 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: which is where things get tricky because if you had 56 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: a coalition of transportation organizations that we're doing this outside 57 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: of government, things like regulations would not be an issue 58 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 1: because they would all be trying to do the best 59 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: by all things. Yeah, I'm about to invoke Anakin and 60 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: padme right, Like that's the problem is that I'm literally 61 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: working through this as I'm talking. Right, there's that whole Listen. 62 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: I know, not everybody likes Attack of the Clones, and 63 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: that's fine, But there's that whole Meadow scene where he 64 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: describes what he thinks how he thinks government should work, 65 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: and he said, it's just me smart people getting together 66 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: and talking through and she's like, what do you think 67 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: we're doing, Doc, That's exactly what we're up to. But 68 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: everybody doesn't agree, and that's the tricky part. Yeah. Yeah, 69 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on there. There are a lot 70 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: of things that felt to me very idealistic in his 71 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: writing at the time that he was writing it, in 72 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: the late nineteenth early twentieth century. And then I was like, 73 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: and then now, on top of that, we have an 74 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: internationally interconnected food supply chain. Yeah, right, and so if 75 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: there were to be a giant revolution, it would have 76 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: to happen in a way that doesn't lead to lead 77 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: to a collapse of the food chain and people starving, right, 78 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: And it's just like, yeah, unending questions and issues. I 79 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: do wonder if he were alive today, I would want 80 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: to read his thoughts about the billionaire class that has 81 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: emerged in the world and individual people having enough money 82 00:05:52,920 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: and power to like buy information distribution channels like newspapers 83 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: and just used them to whatever end. I mean, I 84 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: think we can extrapolate how he would feel about it, 85 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: but I would love to hear I would love to 86 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: hear his words on it, because I enjoyed I enjoyed 87 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: reading his writing a lot. Ye, a couple of random 88 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: things that I cut out of the episode because I 89 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: just kept getting longer and longer. When he was a kid, 90 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: he used his brother. Number one. One of their big 91 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: amusements as a family was to go to plays and 92 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,119 Speaker 1: to the ballet, right, and so he and his brother 93 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: and then I'm assuming like younger half siblings after they 94 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: were born, they would amuse themselves by putting on plays 95 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: at home. And their stage was the door between their 96 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: bedroom and the classroom, because that was divided with a curtain. 97 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: And I was like, I love that. That's perfect, absolutely 98 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 1: great natural perscenium in place. Yeah, I love it. Also, 99 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: multiple sources that I read about him, or lectures that 100 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: I listened to or whatever, all took a moment to 101 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: talk about his social identity opinions. A lot of anarchists 102 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: in the late nineteenth early twentieth century were also like 103 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: sex reformers, and we're calling for things like free love, 104 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: acceptance of relationships regardless of people's sex or gender. Right, 105 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: if did I already say free love, free love? If 106 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: I didn't already say that, you did. And it seems 107 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: like Krapotkin not one of those people and was more 108 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: conservative along those lines. And there are some interpretations of 109 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: him that come to the conclusion that he was homophobic. 110 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: And apparently one of the things that has led to 111 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: this conclusion is that when Oscar Wilde was on trial, 112 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: Oscar Wilde was a huge fan of Kerpotkin and Kerpotkin's 113 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: writing and political thought, and Oscar Wilde wrote to him 114 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: for help, and he didn't acknowledge or respond to it, apparently, 115 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: and people have interpreted that as like him not being 116 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: in support of Oscar Wilde. And then I have also 117 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: read that he had conversations with Emma Goldman, who was 118 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: on the more like sex reform side of the anarchist movement, 119 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: and that Emma Goldman modernized his opinions a little bit. 120 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: But I didn't find documentation or quotes or anything about 121 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: any of that. It was like I kept hearing people 122 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: make those same arguments, and I couldn't trace them back 123 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: to source material somewhere, And I also didn't have a 124 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: good place to put any of that discussion in the 125 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: actual episodes, right, especially when it's nebulous. Yeah there was. Yeah, 126 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: nebulus is a good word. We talked about how his 127 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: language of the time reflected words like savage that are 128 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: unacceptable today but were in wide use. So it's not 129 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: totally surprising to me that someone who was raised in 130 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: the society that he was raised in would still have 131 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: biases that maybe other parts of the movement would be 132 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: on a different perspective on. I mean, especially when you 133 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: consider his origins, right, Like right, I mean, I'm marvel 134 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: at somebody who literally is born into extraordinary privilege and 135 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: is like, let's get rid of all of that, Like 136 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: that's a very unusual thing in and of itself, But 137 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: like he still has that hardwiring of like, yeah, this 138 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: is how the social more's work, and he's probably not 139 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: even cognizant that that's just like part of the conditioning 140 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: you get as a kid in that environment. So you know, 141 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: totally possible that he never really thought about it until 142 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: Emma Goldman was in my imagination, like, hey, what were 143 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: you doing with Oscar Wilde not answering Well, I mean 144 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: I can see a world where like he didn't know 145 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: how to answer and was thinking it over and it 146 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: got away from him. I mean, yeah, sure, I do 147 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: that with just completely benign texts from people where I'm like, 148 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that question. I got 149 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: to think about it. Yeah. Two weeks later, do you 150 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: hate me? Oh no, I just forgot. Oh yeah. I 151 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: literally had that happen with an email that a listener 152 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: sent to us asking for a contact elsewhere in my heart, 153 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: and I didn't know who to direct them to. And 154 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: I sent a note to someone asking if they knew 155 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: and it was not in my brain anymore, and that 156 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: person didn't get back to me, and I didn't follow 157 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: up on it, and then I found an email in 158 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: my drafts like three weeks later. I was like, whoops, uh, oh, 159 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: sorry about that. Happens all the time. One of the 160 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: articles that I read for this was by a scholar 161 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: from Russia and said that a lot of work on 162 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: Krapotkin and on anarchism is still basically banned in Russia today. 163 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: Oh wow, which is like unsurprising. But also I couldn't 164 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: figure out how to really confirm that right to what 165 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: extent That's just that's a very broad thing to go 166 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: try to track down, right. I mean, I feel like 167 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: it's harder and harder to ban information right in places 168 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: that have internet access. Yeah. But also I think about 169 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: like the stuff that came up when we were talking 170 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: about France banning various things right in the Tayefield Steinlin 171 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: episode where I love the work around of like I'm 172 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: just gonna go across the border and have my pamphlet 173 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: printed and then I'll come back with it. Everything's cool now, 174 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: everybody'd be cool. Yeah. Yeah, even with like you know, 175 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: the so called Great Firewall in China, like there are 176 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: still ways to get information around things. Yeah. I think 177 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: the last random thing that I had written on my 178 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: list of random things to talk about was the fact 179 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: that the sun went down at three o'clock in the 180 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: evening when he was in prison, because living in Massachusetts, 181 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: where in the wintertime the sun is down by like 182 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: four fifteen or four thirty, Yeah, for part of the winter, 183 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: Like the idea of it being even earlier than that, 184 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: I was like, that hurts my heart for you that 185 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: you were not only was the sun going down early. 186 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: But also you were in prison for it. But he 187 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: had books to read, so at least there was that, 188 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the imprisoned part I get. I don't care 189 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: about the sun so much. I have a hard time 190 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: in the winter. I know I have a like I've 191 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: never been formally diagnosed with, like seasonal effective disorder or 192 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: anything like that. Yeah, but I have a noticeable pattern 193 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: of feelings and behavior over the cold, dark winter months. 194 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: I do, but I call it winter rage disorder because 195 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's dark, but I hate being 196 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: cold so much that it makes me angry. Yeah. And 197 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: I will say we had a very mild winter this year, 198 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: and while I don't like what that means in the 199 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: bigger picture, it was nice to not get angry. Yeah, 200 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: we did not have that. Yeah, you guys kept getting 201 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: like piles of snow at every turn. Yeah. That just 202 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: did not go away for a really long time. Yeah. 203 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: I went on an actual, for real hike this weekend. 204 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: I had been on walks. Hike is a little different thing, 205 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: both because of like weather and because of time, and 206 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: there it gets to a point where when everything is melted, 207 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: I know the places where I can usually go hiking 208 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: are gonna be swampy, and I was not really up 209 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: for the swampiness. But yeah, I will say I am 210 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: not seeking advice on what to do about my winter stuff. 211 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: But things that do help me are making sure I 212 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: am getting enough vitamin D, including whenever the weather permits 213 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: going outside. Yeah, it helps me a lot, helps me 214 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I'm like twenty percent vampire DNA. I 215 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: think I just don't care. Yeah, yeah, I can't. If 216 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: I've said before, before I was born, my dad was 217 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: in the Army and he was stationed at Alaska, and 218 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: my mom also struggled with the cold dark of Alaska, 219 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: and she made homemade chocolate chip cookies every week because 220 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: that made their their you know, their apartment or wherever 221 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: they were living, smell so nice. Yeah, to have freshly 222 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: baked cookies, which I love it. I love it. I mean, 223 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: you don't have to wait for you know, miserable weather. 224 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: You could just do that, yeah, for fun. Yeah. I'm 225 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: also very fond of Peter Kropotkin, and I think there 226 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: are people who people who are fans of Peter Kerpotkin 227 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: really really love him. So I hope those folks who 228 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: maybe in the audience think we did him justice. There 229 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: are things we didn't even mention that, like that he 230 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: wrote a book on Russian literature. Yeah, all kinds of stuff, 231 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: Like if if people were still calling people polymaths as much. 232 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: I feel like that that label of polymath was not 233 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: quite as frequent in its use at the very very 234 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: end of the nineteenth beginning of the twentieth century. I 235 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: more saw him described as a scientist and a political philosopher, 236 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: not as a polymath. But I think polymath also suits him. Yeah. 237 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: I will confess there were times where we would read 238 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: a passage of his and I would have to refrain 239 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: from going right on. Yeah, yeah, Whatever is happening coming 240 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: up on your weekend, I hope it includes things that 241 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: make you say right on, And you know, if not, 242 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: then I hope you're able to have some quiet, some 243 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: moments to yourself, something that will be rejuvenative and restoring 244 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: that you're able to take a couple moments to care 245 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: for yourself and for the people around you. We will 246 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: be back on Monday with a brand new episode. 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