1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, players are basically opposed to anything 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: manager suggests each side. If one has an idea, the 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: other says no, we don't like that, almost reflexively. So 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: that's where it starts. Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: of Fair Territory. I'm Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo. Alana, 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: good to be with you, And on this Thursday, we're 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: still about seven weeks away from the trade deadline, and 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: yet yet things are starting to develop. Slowly, but surely 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: they're starting to develop. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting, Ken, it's good to be with 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: you also, but it seems like it's coming from a 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: player perspective, a player request, versus a team situation. What 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: more can you tell us about Aaron Savali and the 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: Milwaukee Brewers. 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: Well, this is the first thing we have to discuss today, 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: and it's rather interesting. So the Brewers, of all teams, 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: seem to have something of a starting pitching surplus, and 18 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: today their top prospect, Jacob Minzaraski, is coming up to 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: make his major league debut tonight at home against the 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinals, and because the Brewers want to add 21 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: Miseroski to their rotation, they are moving Aaron Savali to 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: the bullpen. They gave him that news yesterday and at 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: that time Aaron Savally was not happy, as his manager 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: Pat Murphy said, and his agent Jack Toffee requested a 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: trade through Brewers general manager Matt Arnold. I have a 26 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: story up with Will Salmon about this particular situation right now, 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: and you can understand Savally in his free agent year, 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: not wanting to go to the bullpen, where he has 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: never pitched except one time in relief last year during 30 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: the Wildhart Series against the Mets. That's his only career 31 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: relief appearance one hundred and twenty two career regular season starts. 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: And at the same time, the Brewers, though they have 33 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: this abundance of starters and starting options. I want to 34 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: show you exactly what I'm talking about, because it's rather 35 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: interesting to see a team like the Brewers in this position, 36 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: especially when they started the season with Elvin Rodriguez making 37 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: their home opener Dave start, because they had no other options. 38 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: They were injury left and right, and here they are 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: right now looking pretty good. Freddy Peralta, Jose Cantana, jad Patrick, 40 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: Quinn Priester, who has been piggybacking with dal all the times, 41 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: and Jacob Izarowski joining the rotation tonight. That's their current five. 42 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: Logan Henderson, that dude had a one to seven ERA 43 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: in his first four major league starts, get sent to 44 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: the miners. That's where he is now, along with Tobias Myers, 45 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: who has not been that good this year, but last 46 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: year was a stalwart in that rotation. And then on 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: the injured list you have Nestro Cortez Junior and Brandon 48 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: Woodruff working their ways back from injuries. Nowhere among those 49 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: nine names do you see Aaron Savali because he has 50 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: been sent to the bullpen. But in Savale's case, it 51 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he has a clear path necessarily back 52 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: to the rotation. So he's making eight million dollars this season. 53 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: The Brewers almost always want to trade guys making money, 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: especially when they're not playing a significant role. He's requested 55 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: a trade. There are teams clearly in need of starting pitching. 56 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: We will see what this leads to in the weeks 57 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: and data ahead. 58 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: Ken, do you think that the Brewers will respond in 59 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: kind with a trade. And I also feel like oftentimes 60 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: when players or their agents are asking for a trade. 61 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: That's something that happens more in the NFL or the NBA. 62 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: It's rare when you hear a Major League Baseball player 63 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: request a trade or through his agent or whatever. Do 64 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: you think that this will happen more often if players 65 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: are unsatisfied or dissatisfied with what's going on, and do 66 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: you think the Brewers will allow this to happen. 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: It's a good point a lota, and it probably happens 68 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: more often than we know. We got to tip on 69 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: this this morning, I confirmed it with the agent, and 70 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: we wrote a story. So in this case, yes, it happened. 71 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: It pretty clearly happened for a very specific reason. This 72 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: guy does not want to pitch in the bullpen as 73 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: he becomes a free agent, right but I would imagine 74 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: that from time to time this does happen throughout the game. 75 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: There's no question about that. Now, to the question of 76 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: whether they will accommodate him, I believe the answer to 77 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: that is yes, maybe not tomorrow, but sometime before the deadline, 78 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: and the question will be, Okay, which team is going 79 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: to want to take the balance of his salary, Which 80 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: team will want the Brewers to chip in? Will some 81 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: team take all of it. That's always going to be 82 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: the question with these kinds of things. But as for 83 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: the Brewer's desire, I would imagine, as I said in 84 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: the opening of this segment, sure, they want to do it. 85 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: They want to get rid of the rest of that 86 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: money and either save it for themselves or use it 87 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: for other things. So yeah, I would expect this to 88 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: take place. I just don't know how quickly. 89 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: Well, there's certainly a lot of teams that could use 90 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 2: starting arm help, So we will certainly see Aaron Savally 91 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: in another uniform, likely sooner rather than later. One guy 92 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: ken that is a starter, and it seems like he's 93 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 2: rounding back to who he used to be. Is Sandy Alcontra? 94 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: You just wrote a piece about him. If have you 95 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: seen from him that leads you to believe that he's 96 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 2: on his way back? 97 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: Right? Well, I wrote this with Leenosaras and we published 98 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 1: it this morning as the top of our notes column. 99 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: And it's interesting his last two starts a Contras have 100 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: been against Colorado and Pittsburgh, two worst offenses in the 101 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: major leagues. So the fact that Sandy al Contra produced 102 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: back to back quality starts against those teams you might say, Nah, 103 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: a big deal, it's the Rockies, it's the Pirates. But 104 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: I talked with his manager, Clayton McCullough of the Marlins, 105 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: and I talk with a scout who was at the 106 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh game the other night. And the scout arrival official 107 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: from another team, obviously if he's a rival. He said 108 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: that he thought al Contra was so good that he 109 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: was about three or four starts away from being the 110 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: Sandy of old, and McCullough echoed this those sentiments. McCullough 111 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: basically said that early in the season Sandy al Contra 112 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: had command issues, command issues not uncommon to pitchers coming 113 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: off Tommy John surgery, which he had in October of 114 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. And now you're starting to see al Contredo, 115 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: with his five pitch repertoire, kind of place things a 116 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: little bit better than he was before. And he's missing less. 117 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: His catcher's glove is moving less. It's a command situation 118 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: that is improving. This guy, as I said, has five pitches. 119 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: He's thrown his fastball in ninety nine. The velocity, the 120 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: shapes have not been an issue. The issue has been 121 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: getting it in and around the zone. He seems to 122 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,119 Speaker 1: be doing that better, and Clayton McCullum made the point 123 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: to me, Yeah, it's the Pirates and the Rockies, and 124 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: I get the skepticism, that's what he said. But it's 125 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: the quality of his throes, that's the phrase he used, 126 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: the quality of his throws that looked much improved. Contda's 127 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: next start is against the Phillies. That's going to be interesting. 128 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: A better offense obviously, the one that is not exactly 129 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: red hot right now, and it's missing Bryce Harper, but 130 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: it's a more competitive group, no question, and we'll see 131 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: how he does there. I've seen in recent days reports saying, ah, 132 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: the Marlins probably will just hold this guy, hold on. 133 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: We've got seven weeks until the deadline. We've got potentially 134 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: eight starts or so for al Condra in that time. 135 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: If he can get it back in three or four starts, 136 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: as that rival official said, get back to where he 137 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: was the old Sandy. The Marlins are going to entertain offers. 138 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: That's what they do, and I would expect that again, 139 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: as expected earlier in the year, Sandy al Contrera would 140 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: be the bell of the ball at the trade deadline. 141 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: Hasn't happened. Yet we're not there yet, but there are 142 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: signs of progress here and it's notable. 143 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was so good to watch a couple of 144 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: years ago. It'd be great to see him get back 145 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: to that form. One of the good ones in the game. 146 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: And Clayton McCullough went on to say Ken, as he 147 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: talked to you, of course, that he's finishing his pitches 148 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: more and the quality of the throws are there, all right, 149 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: Jackson job. Unfortunately, Ken Rosenthal another one on the shelf 150 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: for the Detroit Tigers. Looks like he needs Tommy John surgery. 151 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: You hate to see it with any pitcher. It seems 152 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: like an epidemic. How will the Tigers respond to this? 153 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: It is an epidemic, there's no question about it, Alana, 154 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: and we talk about it every week. It was Corbyn 155 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: Burns last week, it's Jackson Job this week. And it's 156 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: just an endlessly disturbing pattern for the entire sport. As 157 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: for the Tigers, they're in relatively decent shape. Of course, 158 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 1: They've got Scooble and Flaherty at the top of the rotation. 159 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: They also have Casey Mais, They've got cater Mantero and 160 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: they've got some pictures coming back. Sawyer Gibson Long is 161 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: now back from his own elbow surgery. He's made a 162 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: couple of appearances, one start and on the il rhees 163 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: Olsen who was working his way back from a finger injury, 164 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: Alex Cobb, who I love but it seemingly always hurt. 165 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: And then this whole day of Katie who could be 166 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: a factor in the second half. So you ask, are 167 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: the Tigers going to pursue a starting picture at the deadline. 168 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: I would expect that the answer to that is yes, 169 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: even if those pictures come back healthy, because imagine if 170 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: they got a quality mid rotation starter who could maybe 171 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: start a playoff game along with Scooble and Flaherty, then 172 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: you've really got something. Now. You may have that internally 173 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: as well, and the Tigers have other needs. They need 174 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: another right handed bat, even if Matt Vierling gets back, 175 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: someone preferably right side of the I'm sorry, left side 176 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: of the infield. Maybe an outfielder as well, but really 177 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: a left side infield or a shortstop or third baseman. 178 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: They can mix and match so well. They have so 179 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: many versatile players, I'm not sure the position matters all 180 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: that much. Whether it's infield or outfield, but they'll be looking. 181 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: And Scott Harris, their GM, has been talking publicly on 182 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: a radio station in Detroit about the fact that they 183 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: are going to seek to upgrade this team. This team 184 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: has earned as much. So it's going to be really 185 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: interesting to see where the Tigers go at the deadline. 186 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: Do they look to add in every area? Offense, rotation, bullpen, 187 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: We'll see. 188 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: Does Savali make sense he's looking for a job. 189 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he is, he's looking for a starting job. He 190 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: might make sense. But if you're the Tigers, you also 191 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: might say, you know what, I don't want to acquire 192 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: Iron Savali and take whatever percentage of his remaining salary 193 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: I would take now when other options will become available, 194 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: Sandy al Contra might be one of those options. There 195 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: might be other pitchers of high caliber. Zach Eflin, who 196 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: is a guy that you would like to have, I 197 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: would think from a rotation standpoint. Hey, the Diamondbacks, now 198 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: they just swept the Mariners, but they've got Zach Gallan 199 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: and Merrill Kelly. They are five in your team right now. 200 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: Who knows where their season is going with all their injuries. 201 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: Martinez as well as burns now, So other options are 202 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: going to become available, and that's why it's going to 203 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: be difficult for the Brewers to trade Savali right now 204 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: when teams will be looking to assess these other possibilities. 205 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: Is this something that the Brewers could take a portion 206 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: of the contract ken and the new team would have 207 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: to take a portion, or do the Brewers have to 208 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: eat the entire thing or does the new team have 209 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 2: to eat the entire thing? 210 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: A lot of that is subject to negotiation, and certainly 211 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: the Brewers would want the new team to take the balance. 212 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: And at this point we're still looking at over four 213 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: million dollars at the deadline. It would be less than that. 214 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that another team would want to take 215 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: all of it. And if that team does take all 216 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: of it, they're going to tell the Brewers while you're 217 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: getting a lesser prospect. So if the Brewers take more money, 218 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: they get a better prospect. That's how these things work, 219 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: the sliding scale. So it's going to be again really 220 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: interesting to see how this all plays out against the 221 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: backdrop of the potential for all these other starters to 222 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: become available. 223 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, anything for a price. 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And I actually love the first question 255 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: Ken from chat BCC. It comes from Martha Brennan. When 256 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: Bregman meaning Alex Bregman comes back. What's the best case 257 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: scenario in which the three kids stay up? That's obviously Roman, Anthony, 258 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: Marcello Meyer, and I'm assuming Christian Campbell and Duran doesn't 259 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: get traded. 260 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how that's possible, honestly. You have Campbell 261 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: at second base, meyrat third base playing Gregman's position in Roman, 262 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: Anthony in the outfield, and Darren Durant of course is 263 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: an outfielder as well. Now, the one thing you could 264 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: do would be, I guess to bench Trevor's story play 265 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: Meyer at short. But you don't want to do that. 266 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: Trevor story is starting to play back. No, yes it is, 267 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: and Trevor Story is a guy who's a really good defender, 268 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: and you cannot win with all kids. You need some veterans. 269 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: Trevor Story is certainly a veteran. So it seems to 270 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: me that when Regman gets back, or even when Will 271 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: You're a Breu gets back, Chraig Ruslow, as president of 272 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: Braceball Operations, is going to have to really take a 273 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: look at this roster and maybe do something to be creative. 274 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: And I'm talking about possibly a trade now. I don't 275 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: know if it's Duran, I don't know if it's a 276 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: bray You. I don't know exactly how you do this, 277 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: because all of these players were talking about are guys 278 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: you want on your team. Duran is a dynamic player, 279 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: Top ten MVP, last year All Star Game MVP. He 280 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: does so many things well. And then you have also 281 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: Will You're a Breu who is relatively inexpensive or really 282 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: good player in his own right. I'm not sure how 283 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: they're going to piece this all together. If they're going 284 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: to keep every one of the big leagues like the 285 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: person suggested, and then have Regman and Duran as well, 286 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: it's going to be a challenge. But the kind of challenge. 287 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: Any team should welcome. Too many good players is never 288 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: a problem. 289 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a good problem to have if you 290 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: want to call it a problem. Thank you for that question. 291 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: We appreciate that, Martha. The next one comes from Jack Siciliano. 292 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: How would you rank these three in terms of defense 293 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: in centerfield PCA? Which is Pete crow Armstrong of the Cubs, 294 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: Denzel Clark, and Saydan Rafaela of the Boston Red Sox. 295 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: And you have another one, Ken to add to this question. 296 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: Julia Rodriguez is the other one who if you look 297 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: at defensive run saved and outs above average, he is 298 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: right there with those guys a little bit of a 299 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: different order in the two leading public metrics, but all 300 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: four of those guys are in there in one order 301 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: or another. Now here's the amazing part, and here's why 302 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: I would take Denzel Clark. Look at the defensive run 303 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: saved here and look at the innings and again out's 304 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: above average is not much different than this. But the 305 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: difference is Clark has barely played compared to these other guys, 306 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: and he's right there with them in defensive run saved. 307 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: So I think I would take Denzel Clark and I'd 308 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: be pretty happy about it that. I will say this. 309 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: Watching Pete Crow Armstrong and Raphaela and even Julio in centerfield, 310 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: it's a joy. 311 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been fun. I love watching the game with 312 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: the Athletics and Jenny Kavnar and Dallas Braden were on 313 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: the call and just listening to the excitement obviously when 314 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: Clark was making some of those catches. All right, The 315 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: third one here from chat BCC is from Alicia Edgar 316 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: might be Alicia, I'm not sure, but thanks for being 317 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 2: a part of the conversation. Well, getting the course starting 318 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: pitchers back for the Dodgers, level them up enough. I 319 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: care about this question a lot, a lot. 320 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: Of have you take it away first, then go ahead. 321 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: I do think it's gonna help, right, I mean, you 322 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: basically have a bullpen game on Tuesday, you had Justin Robleski, 323 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: and then you know young guys pitching on Wednesday for 324 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: the Dodgers. Yeah, I definitely think it's gonna help when 325 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: you get Blake Snell, Tyler glasnow perhaps Shoho Tani before 326 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: the All Star break, which I'm not a huge fan 327 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: of unless he's completely healthy. Yeah, of course I think 328 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 2: it's gonna level them up. When you have a one 329 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: hundred and two million dollars of your payroll on the IL, 330 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: I think it can only help. But you, my friend, 331 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: are a future Hall of Famer and the analyst, so 332 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: you take this at. 333 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: Least I'm going to answer it like this. Are they 334 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: going to get these pictures back? That's all well and good. 335 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: We're hearing of Blake Snell throwing again in glass now, 336 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: and Gon's lin will be back, and Showy is coming. 337 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: The whole point of this team, the whole plan this year, 338 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: is to put the best possible roster together for October. 339 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: My question has been and will be until I see 340 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: it proven otherwise. Will everyone be in sync at that 341 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: time or are some of these guys going to come 342 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: back and get injured again, or will other pictures get injured? 343 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: What are they going to look like October first? That's 344 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: the whole goal of the season, to be ready for 345 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: the postseason. And I understand it. I understand what the 346 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: Dodgers are doing, and I understand that over the years 347 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: they've taken chances on pictures with injury histories because they 348 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: want their excellence. Well, you got to get these guys 349 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: healthy at some point at some point it is go time. 350 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: Now we're not even close to there yet. But my 351 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: concern is will these guys or enough of them be 352 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: healthy at the same time come the postseason. Yeah. 353 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: And my concern as well, Ken, that is a good 354 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: one that you have, is the bullpen being absolutely blown 355 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: out because the starters that they have right now are 356 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: not going deep into the ballgame. I mean, I did 357 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: not have on my bingo card in the series against 358 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: the Padres. The first time that the Dodgers saw them 359 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: was going to be dustin May TBD, and it ended 360 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 2: up being been casparous not what I thought as far 361 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 2: as starting pitchers for the Dodgers against the Padres for 362 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: that first series. Okay, another question here, this one from 363 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: our YouTube chat from Mike G. Grill and Ken. Which 364 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 2: starting pitcher could you see the Cubs zeroing in on 365 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: most for an aggressive pursuit. 366 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: I don't know which one. I would say most, but 367 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: all of those pitchers I mentioned earlier, Gallan, Kelly if 368 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: they become available from the Diamondbacks, Eflyn and Chicano from 369 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: the Orioles if they become available as I expect they will, 370 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: and Alcantra if he is a factor here. If he 371 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: becomes someone that teams are going to want again, I 372 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: would expect they're going to aim high. They're going to 373 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: look at that group and maybe some others as well. 374 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: I might be missing a few here and there, But 375 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: if you're the Cubs and you've got this opportunity, you've 376 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: got him in Aga coming back. Boyd has pitched very well, 377 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: Tiona's pitched very well. You're hopefully going to get a 378 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: side back at some point as well. You're going for it. 379 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: You want more, you want to have the best possible 380 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: rotation you can put together without Justin Steele, who's out 381 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: for the year. So I would expect that they're going 382 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: to play at the high end of the starting pitchers 383 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: that are available. 384 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: What a bummer if Zach Gallen and Meryl Kelly get traded. 385 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 2: I mean that they were so good for the Arizona Diamondbacks, 386 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: and I wanted the Diamondbacks to be better this year. 387 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 2: I know, obviously losing Corbyn Burns is tough, all right. 388 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: Last question here from our YouTube chat comes from John Shank. 389 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: Thanks John for being a part of the show here 390 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: with Ken and I, is it time to hit the 391 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: panic button for the Cardinals after getting swept by the 392 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: Blue Jays. 393 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: John, Respectfully, three games means nothing if you look at 394 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks in the past nine days, They've swept a 395 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: team they've been swept, and then they swept the Mariners 396 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: to have their third series in a row of sweeps. 397 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: It's just too small a window to look at, especially 398 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: when the Cardinals have played as well as they have 399 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: all season. Now, if in the next seven weeks they 400 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: stumble and fall out of contention, yes, different story than 401 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: you trade some of your potential free agents and look 402 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: do some things creatively. But I'm not giving up on 403 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: the Cardinals just yet. The Jays are really hot right now. 404 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: The Jays are playing like we've hoped they would play 405 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: for I don't know a couple of years. So good 406 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: for them. And it seems to me the Cardinals just 407 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: ran into a really good opponent. 408 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with it. It's nice to see the 409 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 2: Jays playing up to their capability as we. As you mentioned, 410 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: we have been waiting this for quite some time. All right, dude, 411 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: and Dork of the Week is next right after a 412 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 2: quick break. 413 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: I just want to. 414 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: Say, before or Arena Club, if you were trying to 415 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 3: very actively buy, sell trade. 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Go get 426 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 3: after it. 427 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: Dude, dude, dude. 428 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: Can I don't think you were really going out on 429 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: a limb with your dude of the week, but I 430 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 2: can understand why you picked him. Who is it? 431 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: It's Denzel Clark, and it's Denzel Clark for that amazing 432 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: catch that he made. And here's the thing that amazed 433 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: me the most. Obviously, he caught the ball looked like 434 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: Spider Man or Elastic Man, as Tory Hunter said, but 435 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't spill over the wall is 436 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: incredible to me. To have the athleticism, the body control 437 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: to not go completely over. He kind of braced himself 438 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: with his right hand. That was amazing. He is my 439 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: dude of the week, and there wasn't much question in 440 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: my mind. 441 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: I mean, my goodness, it gives me chills watching it, 442 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: and I've watched it like thirty eight times. But the 443 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: core strength that that young man must have in his 444 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: pectoral muscles and his abdominal muscles is ridiculous. To make 445 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: sure he didn't go over the wall, I would have flipped. 446 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: First of all, I wouldn't have been able to get 447 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: up that high vertically, but I certainly would have flown 448 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: over the wall and probably broken my neck. So God 449 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: bless him for his athleticism and his core strength. All Right, 450 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: mine is a dog, I mean honestly, I mean as 451 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 2: anybody surprised. Of course, Bruce the bat Dog is on 452 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: his way to the majors after being called up by 453 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: the Washington Nationals from the Rochester Red Wings. Listen, don't 454 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: think that these guys, these little puppers, don't try to 455 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 2: you know, get their workouts in and they eat great 456 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: and they want to call their mom and dad when 457 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: they get called up to So congratulations to this sweetheart 458 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 2: he got called up to the big leagues. I love this. 459 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: All the bat Dogs and Golden's, by the way, are sweet, sweet, sweet, 460 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: sweet jobs all right, time now for our John Fisher 461 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: dork of the week. Well, Ken, the San Diego Padres 462 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: didn't learn. It appears that the Saint Louis Cardinals took 463 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: a page out of the Padres book Who and you are? 464 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: They're your dorks of the week for a certain reason. 465 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: Why, well, what do we hear all the time from 466 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: the Cardinals and their fans. They play a beautiful brand 467 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: of baseball. They're all about way best fans baseball, cardinal way. 468 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: They're a class above the rest of the sport. Well, 469 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: not this week when they trolled Clayton Kershaw by showing 470 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: Matt Adams home run from the twenty fourteen NLDS. We're 471 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: living on a moment from eleven years ago and insulting 472 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: a guy who was going to the Hall of Fame 473 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: on the first ballot. That is a lack of class. 474 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: It's not cool. And Cardinals dorks of the week for that. 475 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: And it's good fun. Now, Not when you present yourself 476 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: or yourself as this distinctive franchise. No, he acted like 477 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: punks and not for nothing. 478 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: Eleven years ago. Get over yourself eleven years ago. Matt 479 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: Carpenter has retired Clayton Kershaw, still performing and he's going 480 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: to the Hall of Fame. So stop it, all right, 481 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: My dork of the week the Atlanta Braves for calling 482 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 2: up Craig Kimberl for basically an inning and then dfa 483 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: ing him the next day. What are we doing? I mean, 484 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 2: this is a guy that arguably could be in the 485 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame too as a closer. I mean, he's 486 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 2: had an unbelievable career. He's certainly on the back nine, 487 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: will probably retire soon if he can't get another job. 488 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: But what is the point of that? I mean, to me, 489 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: that is so disrespectful to a veteran player to do that. 490 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: I just don't I don't understand that. 491 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: There were reasons for it. He didn't perform great, they 492 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: were short in their bullpen, and and even if he 493 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: had pitched the next day, they were gonna have to 494 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: dfa and that would have been three days out of four. 495 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: But it wasn't a great look. And I spoke with 496 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: James McCann, the veteran catcher who was a triple A 497 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: right now, and he said some of the players were 498 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: frustrated by that. They didn't like seeing that at the 499 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: same time, Kimberle caught on signed a minor league deal 500 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: with the Rangers. We'll see if he can get back 501 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: and make a contribution. But his velo was not great 502 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: that day, as mccam pointed out, maybe because he flew 503 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: across country. So we'll see. But you're right, Alan, it 504 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: was it a great look for the Braves. Was it 505 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: something that reflected well on them? No? 506 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 2: No, Optically it did not look good, Craig, Kimberrell deserves 507 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 2: a little bit better. All right, For now, we're going 508 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: to say goodbye to our great friends over at Neisson Sportsnet, 509 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and Nesson Nation. We appreciate you being here. We 510 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 2: say goodbye for now. We'll see you next time. 511 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: All right. 512 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: For those of you still with us, we appreciate that 513 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: very much. Ken, I know that you have a game 514 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: coming up this weekend, very similar to the game that 515 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 2: you had last weekend. But before that, the Athletic came 516 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: out with a survey about it's an anonymou survey. All 517 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 2: of the sports do this. Was there anything from those 518 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: results that surprised you at all? From this anonymous survey 519 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: that they put. 520 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: Out, nothing that surprised me terribly. I always enjoy reading it. 521 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: Those anonymous player polls in each sport that the Athletic 522 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: does are quite entertaining. The one thing that struck me 523 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: a little bit was Andy McCullough's story on how players 524 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: we're talking about the biggest misconceptions about travel and missing 525 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: family events and the reaction of fans in the comments, 526 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: which was predictable. You guys are making all this money. 527 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: Shut up. I get it, and I understand why a 528 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: fan would think that way. We all grow up wanting 529 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: to be big league ballplayers or professional athletes in some 530 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: other sport, and we think they have the best life. 531 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: And they do, but keep in mind, their careers only 532 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: go so long. Not all players are making a gazillion 533 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: dollars now. Granted, the minimum in baseball is seven sixty five, 534 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: but there are very few who even get to that 535 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: on a consistent level. So on top of that, they 536 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: do have challenges, and the challenges include being away from 537 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: your family for eight months a year, maybe even nine 538 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: months a year. You might say, well, they get the 539 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: three months off, yes, but it's not easy, and people 540 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: who live this, who go through it, it is hard 541 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: on them. It's a special challenge. Now again, we all 542 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: want to be those guys. I get it. But at 543 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: the same time, a little empathy from people at times 544 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't hurt. And a little bit of understanding that these 545 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: guys also go through things in their jobs, which is 546 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: what this is job that can be trying on a 547 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 1: personal level, and there's nothing wrong with understanding that because 548 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: at times it does affect guys in ways that we 549 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: don't even know. 550 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not immune to family members getting sick or 551 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: all of the things that we all deal with. And 552 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: people forget that these guys are people before they're professional 553 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: athletes and players, So keep that in mind. Sixty three 554 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: percent of players can are against roboumps, which actually surprise 555 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 2: a little bit. I thought it would be less than that. 556 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: Now let's keep in mind so it's not going to 557 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: be a one hundred percent full ABS system. But did 558 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 2: this surprise you at all, that that many people are 559 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: opposed to roboumps. 560 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, players are basically opposed to anything 561 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: manager suggests, So that's kind of way coming from in 562 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: part each side. If one has an idea, the other 563 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: says no, we don't like that, almost reflexively. So that's 564 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: where it starts, but there are players a number of 565 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: players who do not want to see the human element removed, 566 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: and it would not be with the challenge system. It 567 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: seems to me a challenge system is something that a 568 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: lot of players, younger players have grown up with in 569 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: the minor leagues. Now they're accustomed to it, and it 570 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: would give the sport the ability to correct the egregious calls. Now, 571 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: the zone is going to be different, and that's a problem. 572 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: But on balance, we know this is coming. Baseball has 573 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: the right to implement it, and I believe players will 574 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: get used to relatively quickly. 575 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: All right, Well, we want to definitely say thank you 576 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: to everybody on Chat BCC as well as YouTube for 577 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: participating in grill and Ken. Always great to be able 578 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: to ask Ken these questions and thanks for watching, guys. 579 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: Foul Territory is next. Aj Pierzinski, Eric Kratz and of 580 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: course Scott Brown will host Foul Hunter. Dobbins, Tyler Kepner 581 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: and Self. 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