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Speaker 1: Welcome to our show, One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy with our co host Steve Tasker and our

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Speaker 1: Former Bill center Eric Quid with us, Eric, good job yesterday.

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Speaker 1: fourth and three at the goal line, and we can

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Speaker 1: talk about that decision as well. This wasn't as tight

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Speaker 1: as a game could get. Yep. Eric, being around this

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Speaker 1: team and this coaching staff as you have been, what

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Speaker 1: would be the lead up to, you know, schooling Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen and what he might expect. I mean, you can't

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Speaker 1: cover everything, obviously, but they I'm sure they told him, hey,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna give you different looks. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: Brian day Ball spent so much time in New England,

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Speaker 1: he knows that better than anybody, but what New England

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Speaker 1: will do defensively in almost every game. Now, there's only

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Speaker 1: so much you can do defensively, but they always want

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Speaker 1: to give you something on film you haven't seen, and

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Speaker 1: then they're gonna try and take away what you do best.

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Speaker 1: So they you know, they tried to keep Josh in

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Speaker 1: the pocket at times. They played a lot a tight

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Speaker 1: man demand to not allow those easy access throws too.

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Speaker 1: Cole Beasley to John Brown that we've seen Josh take

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Speaker 1: advantage of through the first three weeks of the season.

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Speaker 1: But they're always going to give you something a little different.

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Speaker 1: And I said in the pregame, if you turn on

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Speaker 1: the films and you ignore the jerseys, if you turn

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Speaker 1: on the film from the Patriots playing the Jets and

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Speaker 1: the Patriots or sorry, the Patriots playing the Steelers. They

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Speaker 1: play a four down front and they play almost exclusively

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Speaker 1: a base three four, which New England has a run

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Speaker 1: a base three four since the late two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. Yeah, they got away from it

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and ten ish, right, they ran a

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Speaker 1: base three four against Miami. It looks like two totally

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Speaker 1: different teams. So that creates throughout the week. You know,

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Speaker 1: a preparation standpoint, and sometimes we call it chasing ghosts,

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Speaker 1: like how many looks are we truly going to prepare for.

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Speaker 1: Let's prepare for what we've seen maybe most, and then

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Speaker 1: just assume that we're gonna have to adjust throughout the game.

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Speaker 1: Strikes me that the Patriots do that because of great coaching,

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Speaker 1: number one and number two smart players, right, they can adapt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they have guys that they can just plug and

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Speaker 1: play at so many different positions and that's why they

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Speaker 1: like the versatility. But they have pretty much you know,

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Speaker 1: they go a deep across their defensive line. Well, they

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Speaker 1: are so different players. They have guys like Danny Shelton

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Speaker 1: then everybody else they have is more pass rusher Michael Bennett.

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Speaker 1: They're one gap penetrators. Well, because of that, they have

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Speaker 1: the two gappers that they can put to that three

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Speaker 1: can pass rush more. Butler, you know, he's a he's

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Speaker 1: a pass rushing defensive tackle. And then they have so

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Speaker 1: many linebackers that they can interchange put them on the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. And I mentioned in the pregame how

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Speaker 1: similar all their heights and weights are. Yes, they're all

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Speaker 1: between six two and six four, and they're all between

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Speaker 1: And they have like six of those guys, and so

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Speaker 1: they can put them on the line of scrimmage, they

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Speaker 1: give you so many different looks that for a quarterback

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Speaker 1: and an offensive line sometimes it could be hard to identify.

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Speaker 1: It was difficult for Josh. I want to turn to

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Speaker 1: this and by the way, you're going to get a

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Speaker 1: chance too. Listeners and viewers, our question of the day,

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Speaker 1: what was your biggest takeaway about the loss of the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: You can phone it in at eight three five fifty

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Speaker 1: or two three one eight eight eight by fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty sending a tweet to one Bill's Live. John

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Speaker 1: Murphy was Steve Tasker and Eric would join us for

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Speaker 1: this first hour. But this is you, this is your

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Speaker 1: sweet spot, this is your expertise. Punt and the punk block. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you'll be proud of your man Eric here, who

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Speaker 1: who immediately identified what the problem was when they uncovered

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Speaker 1: the gunners. Talk about that. Yeah, they did it, and

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Speaker 1: the Patriots left the gunners uncovered, which is something that

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Speaker 1: teams will bluff into doing and plus or they'll show

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Speaker 1: you that. But what will happen is at the snap

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Speaker 1: they'll sprint somebody out of the formation out to get

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Speaker 1: in the way if you are going to pass it now,

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Speaker 1: they rolled the dice. They didn't. They uncovered the the

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Speaker 1: gunners and then they didn't run anybody out. They rushed everybody.

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Speaker 1: They overloaded it and they were gonna get home now.

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Speaker 1: If unless you've got a guy who's been doing it

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Speaker 1: now Corey Boy Orkez, and he knew it was coming.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's no way he didn't know. And there

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Speaker 1: was just you gotta have a guy who's you know,

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Speaker 1: experienced enough or confident enough to just pick it up

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Speaker 1: and throw it down the field, just lob it out there.

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Speaker 1: That's the only thing left to do. The Patriots did

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Speaker 1: it so late in the play clock you either had

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Speaker 1: to take a time out or bring the gunners in,

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Speaker 1: and it was bring the gunners in was not an

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Speaker 1: option because they did it so late in the play clock.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have time, wouldn't have had time to come

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Speaker 1: in and get set, or the punters just got to

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Speaker 1: grab it and toss it out there and have confidence

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Speaker 1: that the guy's gonna catch it. Unless you've got that

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Speaker 1: in your repertoire ready to go and have practiced it

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Speaker 1: and have talked about it, you're not gonna try that

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Speaker 1: pass because that it's so easy just to drop a

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Speaker 1: guy out there, get in the passing lane and just

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Speaker 1: run straight to the gunner and break it up. It's

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Speaker 1: just a really difficult thing. The Patriots really rolled the

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Speaker 1: dice on that play and it came up. It came

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Speaker 1: up asis for him because that it does take a

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Speaker 1: courageous group to go and uncover those guys. Because if

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Speaker 1: if Rourke has tosses it out there to Kirk Coleman,

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Speaker 1: that's three points for the Bills at least if the

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Speaker 1: return guy can tackle him. Right when the defense that's

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Speaker 1: giving up less than two hundred yards a game, you

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Speaker 1: don't want to take any risks on special teams that

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Speaker 1: you don't have to because if he throws the ball

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Speaker 1: out there and they get fifty yards there with these scores,

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Speaker 1: even you know, if the guy can't tackle him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you haven't given up a touchdown yet this year, and

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Speaker 1: you're going to roll the dice like that. But you know,

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Speaker 1: listening to what the Patriots said after the game, it

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Speaker 1: was something that I identified on film. I said that

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Speaker 1: during the broadcast yesterday, I guarantee the Patriots saw something

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Speaker 1: on film from this punt unit. And as I watched

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Speaker 1: the repack replay back, there is also the perfect storm,

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Speaker 1: a touch low of a snap, not a bad snap,

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Speaker 1: but a touch low. And when you're talking about actions

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Speaker 1: punt time, you know, maybe that punt gets blocked either way,

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Speaker 1: but it's a pretty close, you know, pretty close deal.

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Speaker 1: And when he has to bend down and get it up,

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Speaker 1: that does not allow him to pull that quick trigger

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Speaker 1: on the punt. Right. The other thing could happened a

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Speaker 1: bit of a perfect bounce to the Matthew Slater right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like in baseball when the short

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Speaker 1: staff gets the perfect double play. Matthews Slater got a

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Speaker 1: perfect bounce right in his midsection to score. But Eric,

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Speaker 1: as you pointed out, and you said it yesterday they

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Speaker 1: were scouting involved, right, and plus the Patriot snowble Horcz

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Speaker 1: and we both saw the same tweet I think overnight

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Speaker 1: about the Giants did something similar and the Patriots probably

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Speaker 1: saw that, right. The Giants uncover the gunners and the

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Speaker 1: Bills did not adapt or just in the Giants game, right,

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Speaker 1: And this ends up being just an enormous play in

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Speaker 1: the game. They're you know, one of their only two

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Speaker 1: touchdowns the entire day, and on a day that you

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Speaker 1: hold Tom Brady to one of his worst performances of

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Speaker 1: his career, their special teams beat you. And it brings

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Speaker 1: me back to unfortunately, the two thousand and nine Monday

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Speaker 1: Night football game. You know, our our defense played great

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Speaker 1: that night, felt like the offense that night played well

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Speaker 1: enough to win two. And then you have a Leotis

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Speaker 1: Mcalbyn fumble at the end on the kick return and

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Speaker 1: Brady beat us. Then you know, you think about you think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you think about it, and we said it. I said

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Speaker 1: it going in. I made that that comment about you know,

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Speaker 1: you got forty five guys active on game day, you

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Speaker 1: got to hit on all forty five cylinders and the

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Speaker 1: Patriots did it. The Bills hit on a lot of cylinders,

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Speaker 1: particularly defensively, but you know, one misstep and in a

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Speaker 1: game like that, it's the difference and not really his

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Speaker 1: and not to turn the page and get on another topic,

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Speaker 1: but the Bills also rushed for over one hundred yards yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots rush defense has been incredible on the season

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Speaker 1: so far, and they run the ball for over one

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Speaker 1: hundred yards. Frank Gore had an incredible day and goes

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Speaker 1: over the fifteen thousand mark and where something was going

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Speaker 1: so right in so many different areas once you know,

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Speaker 1: a bad special teams blunder and then those interceptions and

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Speaker 1: poor i'll say poor passing game. You know, you can

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Speaker 1: call it receivers, quarterback. You know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are involved in that. From protection standpoint's got to be better.

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Speaker 1: But you know, in a league that's set up for

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Speaker 1: passing nowadays, you know we got to be better moving

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Speaker 1: forward in that area. We've got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: We will continue, we want to review. Get your calls

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Speaker 1: or your tweets, send them in as we talk about

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Speaker 1: yesterday's game, and what's your biggest takeaway was from the

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Speaker 1: Bill's loss of the Patriots. Eric stays with us until one.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown joins us at one. We're gonna talk with

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Speaker 1: Evan Washburn in the two o'clock hour. He was the

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Speaker 1: sideline reporter on the game yesterday four CBS. Come on back.

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Speaker 1: Have it have you in the audience, Man's coming by.

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Speaker 1: During the breaks, we're just talking and it merits the

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Speaker 1: scene on the air. The battle pretty much one on

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Speaker 1: one battle between the Bills, John Brown and the Patriot

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Speaker 1: Stephan Gilmour was epic yesterday, right, I mean, it was

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Speaker 1: amazing to watch those two two really good players, it was.

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Speaker 1: And Stephan Gilmour is playing as good as any cornerback

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Speaker 1: I'll claim ignorance. I had no idea John Brown was

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Speaker 1: such a polished route runner. I knew he could take

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Speaker 1: the top off of the defense. I saw him do

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Speaker 1: it for a number of years, especially when it's with Arizona,

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Speaker 1: you know, running those post routes with Carson Palmer back

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Speaker 1: at quarterback and just airing it out in him and

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Speaker 1: Bruce arians offense, you know, with those really long receptions.

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Speaker 1: That's what I knew John Brown four, I had absolutely

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Speaker 1: no idea he was such a polished route runner in

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Speaker 1: the Patriots played a ton of man coverage yesterday. They've

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Speaker 1: been playing a lot of man all season, but they

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Speaker 1: played a ton of man coverage yesterday, especially on third down,

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Speaker 1: and I thought John Brown's ability to separate on those

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Speaker 1: RPOs across the middle. Rarely and you could probably become

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Speaker 1: go across the middle and make those tough catches. And

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Speaker 1: Eric comments right back to remember day one of training camp.

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Speaker 1: What we're seeing July twenty fifth, first day of practice. Wow,

643
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know John Brown could run routes like that.

644
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just an accomplished rout runner. We talked

645
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: about the day one of camp. We saw it there.

646
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: He had eleven targets. He had five receptions, so just

647
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: under half of his targets, you know, he was seven.

648
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: He had sixty nine yards, which and a lot of

649
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: them that gave him a chance to win that last

650
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: that when Barkley came in. Barkley threw that nice touch

651
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: ball down down the left right sideline on the far

652
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: side from the home side, and he got a penalty

653
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: and the reception gave him a chance to get into

654
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: the ends and they couldn't capitalize on it. But those

655
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: are the kind of plays late were, you know, really

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00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: made a difference. And I think also it says something

657
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: they put steph They went to zero coverage a lot,

658
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: which you would think, okay, wait a minute, they must

659
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: like their matchups. But there's also some times where we

660
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: got some pass interferences, and for the most part I

661
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 1: thought it was more about the rush and Josh than

662
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: it was about the receivers. Yeah, yeah, and the Patriots

663
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: did a great job, and they've done a great job

664
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Speaker 1: all year there. You know, you could say they're tops

665
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: in the league in every category. But they're getting to

666
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback at a great rate. And what they're able

667
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: to do is their corners know that with the Patriots

668
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: pass rush, they don't have to be they're not in

669
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Speaker 1: man coverage forever back there, so they can be aggressive.

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00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: They can be in bump and run coverage knowing that

671
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: they just don't simply have time to run a lot

672
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: of double moves or whatever would be the toughest thing

673
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: to defend with man coverage. But that you mentioned the

674
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: John Brown catch as soon as Barkley comes in the game,

675
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Speaker 1: and what a great play for your veteran rod receiver

676
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: to make. It's third and nine games on the line.

677
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: Backup quarterback comes in the game, he's gonna give you

678
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: a shot one on one. You know they're gonna bring

679
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: some pressure at Matt Barkley with him just coming into

680
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: the game cold, and he makes a great pass. Stefan

681
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: Gilmore has got his left arm pinned and he simply

682
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: makes the catch with his right arm stays at bound.

683
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: What a phenomenal play. Patriots still the number one defense

684
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL after yesterday's action, you know it's number two.

685
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: I would assume the Buffalo bill Bills. Yeah, it was

686
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: a great game. Let's take a few phone calls. Eric

687
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: would joins us for the hour. Steve Tasker with us.

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Speaker 1: It's one Bills Live from the Senate Studio, One Bills Drive,

689
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Speaker 1: and we'll start with I'm gonna say Zai and Buffalo.

690
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Speaker 1: Is that how you say your name? Yes, sir, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing zi? Welcome to the show. I'm

692
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: doing good. How you guys doing okay? Great? All right?

693
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Speaker 1: I just had a couple points I wanted to write

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Speaker 1: alf back with us. You guys, um, I'm looking at

695
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: the season there's I mean, I'm looking at the game

696
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: last night as a glasshop board. The defenses in fix

697
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: stop shape and they're not even in their prime yet.

698
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: I feel. Secondally, I want to say I am tired

699
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: of Ay Jones's inconsistency. M I think Duke Boys need

700
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: to take his spot and see what he can do.

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00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: And also I think Rob we needed Robert Foster to

702
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: help out with John Brown with those deep shots. Because

703
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: last yesterday I saw the Patron's play one safety high,

704
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: I believe, and they just got to John Brown because

705
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: he's the only real deep threat that we have, but

706
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: it kind of keyed on him. And Lastly, I think

707
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: the moment was just too big for Josh yesterday. I

708
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: saw a lot of checkdowns wide opened that he just

709
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: weren't looking for because I think he wanted the big

710
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: play a lot, and I think the moment just got

711
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: a little bit ahead of him. And I'll just sit

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Speaker 1: back when the guys talk about it. Anybody want to

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00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: take any of those three? I mean, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I'll talk about a couple of I think I think

715
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: you're right. I think Josh still has that mentality who

716
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: wants to go big. I think we can all. I

717
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: think the people like you and I the three of us,

718
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: we've watched him a lot every game he's played. We've

719
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: been sitting there watching him. And I thought his body

720
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: language yesterday was bad, particularly early in the game. If

721
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: you miss remember, his first pass the game got batted

722
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage, or maybe it was the

723
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: second one that got batted. The first one he threw

724
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: in the dirt on a little out route, quick out

725
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: route to Cole Beasley. Then he got one batted. Then

726
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: he overthrew Frank Gore on the flat in the flat,

727
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: so he really had a hard time, you know what

728
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean. The ball came out all right, but it

729
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: was he just hurried the throw, tried to flick it

730
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: out there and just didn't get off to a fast start.

731
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Speaker 1: And I think that kind of stuck with him. And

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00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: then I'm with the caller. I thought there were a

733
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Speaker 1: couple of times when, you know, he needed to come

734
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: down real quick and hit that check down a little

735
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: faster than he did. He wanted to get that deep shot.

736
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Speaker 1: And of course the interceptions were all about him trying

737
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: to do too much, sure, I thought, so I am

738
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Speaker 1: about the other receivers and stuff. I don't know. Yeah, Okay,

739
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: Zay Jones, maybe we talked about maybe he should have

740
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: broken that interception up, and I get it. But I

741
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: think this was more about Josh going against an elite

742
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: defense and a lot of there's a long list of

743
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: quarterback acts like Josh who have looked bad playing the

744
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: Patriot defense like it was. He's not likely to see

745
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: defense like that or as good as that the rest

746
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: of the year until December twenty. Yeah, I was gonna

747
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: say not until we play the Patriots again. You're right,

748
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: you know. Fortunately for Josh, you got to go against

749
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: a really good defense all the training camp, so he

750
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: got he's got a great look at the second best

751
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: defense in the league statistically in the Buffalo Bills all

752
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: throughout training camp. But yeah, he starts off the game

753
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: over five yesterday or rough start, and maybe that's something

754
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: that the Bill's coaching staff address is moving forward. And

755
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: maybe they did try and script some early easy completions,

756
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: but it may be a deal where Josh Allen's the

757
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: type of quarterback you want to get him a couple

758
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: of easy completions early confidence up, get him in a rhythm,

759
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: and oftentimes you will see that with a young quarterback.

760
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: And then to his point about Zay Jones, I'm not

761
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and say that I know more than

762
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: Brandon Being and staff about personnel, and they need to

763
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: bring up Duke Williams. But having a Robert Foster out

764
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: of that game yesterday was big. Robert Foster is an

765
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: absolute burner. And when you have a team playing that

766
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: much man to man, the crossing routes are so tough

767
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: to cover. When you have a guy as fast as

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00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: Robert Foster, it's harder to play cover zero when you

769
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: know you have another deep threat. You know, yesterday truly

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00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: John Brown was the only guy that could take the

771
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: top off the defense. You know Isaam McKenzie likely can

772
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 1: his smaller receiver that his strength isn't necessarily the passing.

773
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: You know, he's more of a utility guy. But not

774
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: having a Robert Foster and then not having Devin Singletary,

775
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary is a matchup nightmare. As much as the

776
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: Bills run their empty sets and split him out. You

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00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: put a linebacker over him. You put Jawan Bentley at

778
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty five pounds, a land of Roberts

779
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: at two fifty. You put those guys over Devin Singletary,

780
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: He's gonna burn him. Well, that a lot that makes

781
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: you put more dbs on the field. Then you put

782
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: him in the backfood, you motion him back in, you

783
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: run the ball, and you can put a lot of

784
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: stress on the defense with a guy that's as fast

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Speaker 1: as Devin Singletary. It's take a call here from Mike

786
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: and Lakeview. Hello, Mike, welcome to the show. Hey, how

787
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: are you doing Nah. First thing I'd like to say

788
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: is Eric Wood, sorry to see your career on that way.

789
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: That was that was horrible. That was hard to take.

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00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate that when it comes to football, there's a

791
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: complexion to the game. It's it takes on its own

792
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: personality as it goes along. And to dismiss the fact

793
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: that we had so many blown calls like the interception

794
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: and whatnot, it turns things. The game can turn on

795
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: one play. Everybody knows that good they're bad. You can't

796
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: dismiss it. And Steve Fasker said, well, that's part of

797
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: the game. It's it is part of the game. But

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00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: any one of those minute attributes to the game can

799
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: take so much away and give so much to it

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00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: that it's it's you know, it's it's remarkable. So when

801
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: you watch the game, yeah, I think what you Mike,

802
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: I know, I understand what you mean. And when you

803
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: lose a game like that, the calls that are questionable

804
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: or just outright wrong are really doubly frustrating because you

805
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: know how big a difference they make. And you look

806
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: back at that game and I was kind of thinking

807
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: about it, and you know, as Bills fans you always

808
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: get this this complex about how it's all against us

809
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: and the Patriots always get all the calls and stuff,

810
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: and I thought about this one and I didn't do

811
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: it too much, but I remember one jumped out. I mean,

812
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: one call that the Patriots got that was wrong. I

813
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: thought was an intentional grounding on Tom Brady when he

814
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: threw the ball away out in front of Julian Edelman.

815
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: No question, he was throwing the football away, but Edelman

816
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: was running in the direction of the ball and Brady

817
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: threw it on the ground out in front of him,

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00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: and they called it intentional grounding. I thought, I was

819
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: shocked by that call, and I would have been really

820
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: hot if they'd have called that against the Bills in

821
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: that way. And I thought, wow, that's something that I

822
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: don't know why that came out, but you know, Brady

823
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: stepped up in the pocket, Edelman was coming across. He

824
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: wasn't near the football. It's probably about five to seven

825
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: yards out in front of him and on the ground.

826
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: But I was really surprised at that call. So, you know,

827
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: and I get it. You can go back and nitpick

828
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: every single call in it and and we do that

829
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: a lot, particularly in close games when every single call

830
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: had a ripple effect and when the outcome was so

831
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: much in doubt. But I just hesitate to say, you

832
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: know that this game was vastly different than every other

833
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: NFL game that was played over the weekend. Another tough

834
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: call that this one against the Bills, was the holding

835
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: call in Mitch Morse Josh Allen scrambles and I don't

836
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: even know that Mitch Morris has a hold of Butler

837
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: at the time. But Butler does the classic aren't defender

838
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: or running back, quarterback, whoever running past you, if you

839
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: can't make the play, pretend like you're getting held and

840
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: flail your arms up in the air and fade back.

841
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: And he baited the ref Butler baited the referee into

842
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: throwing a holding call. I think New England probably does

843
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: it better than anybody else, you know. I know they're

844
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: coached to do We've had guys come over from the Patriots.

845
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: I'd say, yes, we're coached to do those types of things.

846
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: It's smart play, but it was a costly penalty at

847
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: that point of the game in the second half. Let's

848
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: go to Tom and West Seneca. Hello, Tom, Welcome, you're

849
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: on the air with us. John, Steve, Eric, thanks for

850
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: having me, and Eric, thank you for being a great

851
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill on the field and off the field. That

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Speaker 1: I hope you're enjoying your retirement. I appreciate that. Now

853
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep my comments relatively brief. This is

854
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: a game that we didn't deserve to lose. At the

855
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: end of four quarters. It should have been either ten

856
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: to ten or the Bills thirteen to ten. I did

857
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: some math here. Now I'm gonna have to plagiarize a

858
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: little bit and say that our defense they played like

859
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: poet warriors. They were phenomenal. And now for my big

860
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: gripe and big takeaway of the game was a cheap

861
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: shot on Josh on Josh Allen. What good is concussion

862
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: protocol gonna do if they're gonna throw the flag, penalize

863
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: your fifteen yards, not eject you, and not find you.

864
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: That was clearly flagrant. We all know that a man

865
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: hit like that there could be killed, are very seriously

866
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: injured a concussion. Now, going on what Steve commented a

867
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, last week, a week before, we

868
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: can't send josh Ellen back in her next week or

869
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: maybe even the week after because we look like Steve

870
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: was saying, if you send the guy in too soon

871
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 1: after a concussion injury, he's going to get it's easier

872
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: to get it. He's more prone to another concussion. That

873
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: being said, gentleman, all let choose takeover, Thank you very much. Yeah,

874
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: I look, he's in protocol. I don't know when he's

875
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: coming back, but I think you're jumping to conclusions. He

876
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: might play against Tennessee. He might after Tennessee is the

877
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: bye week. They might save him, right, We don't know

878
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: when he's coming back. Yeah, we don't know. There's no

879
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: they won't get any word. They won't tell us. We'll

880
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: have to. We'll have to. We'll watch practice on Wednesday,

881
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: see what kind of shape he's in, see if he's

882
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: got a red jersey on or non contact, if he's

883
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: limited or not. We'll just have to wait and see

884
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: because they you know, he can't talk to the media

885
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: while he's in concussion protocol, and they won't say anything. Right,

886
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: and he leaves the game and he jogs off the field,

887
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: which is always a great sign, but you know, without

888
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: without the info, and the concussions can be so you know,

889
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: it's such a fluid situation. You might feel great enough

890
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: to run off the field, but then the next day

891
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: feel terrible, So we'll have to wait and see. I

892
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 1: will say this, Having a backup quarterback like Matt Barkley,

893
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: who's in the second year under Brian Dayball, played in

894
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: games last year and played well, really well against the

895
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: Jets last year, and then he played extremely well this preseason,

896
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 1: you know it's not a situation one of the Bills.

897
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: If they have to play Matt Barkley, that that that

898
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: you're writing the Bills off as a surefire loss. A

899
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: lot of teams around the league you get their backup

900
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: quarterback in the game and things changed dramatically. I don't

901
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: think there's a huge drop off from Josh Allen to

902
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley. And if you read my Twitter throu throughout

903
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: the game yesterday, there was a lot of fans before

904
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: the injury that wanted him in there. But think about it,

905
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: I think that he's different. He's not the same as Matt,

906
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: and he does have some gifts, So I think why

907
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: say it won't be different. I think the play selection

908
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: and the game plan will be different with Barkley in there.

909
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: If he is indeed taking reps all week and he's

910
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: going to be the guy. I think the play selection

911
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: and what you're asking him to do is gonna be

912
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: much different than it is for Josh Allen. Yeah, he

913
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: definitely does not have the same athleticism, but he has

914
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: different skill sets. He's extremely accurate, you know, he's way

915
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: more experienced, been around. Maybe he can punish teams for

916
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: some of these cover zero looks, identify him quicker. Whatever

917
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: it may be. But I was encouraged especially, and I

918
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: talked to Matt last night. I saw him at dinner

919
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: and I told Matt, I said, to come in cold

920
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: like that and make that throw on that third and nine,

921
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: that first one. I mean, that is gutsy. Yeah, that

922
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: is gutsy. The problem is when you only dress two

923
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks on game day. A lot of times, you know,

924
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: if Matt Barkley has Davis Webb in uniform, he might

925
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: have sat in the pocket a little bit longer, he

926
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: might have taken a few more shots, maybe scrambled a

927
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: little bit at times. But yesterday he couldn't take a shot,

928
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: so he would get rid of the ball so fast.

929
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: Because when you're the last dude, I mean, where do

930
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: we go from there do we go Micah hide or

931
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: get Cole Beasley taken snaps? Who knows David Swabon, by

932
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: the way, is the practice squad quarterback? And who knows

933
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: if he gets added to the fifty three. Tom Brady

934
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: talked about the hit on Josh Allen this morning on

935
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: his radio show in Boston, And when we come back

936
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: from the break, we're gonna hear that. Come on back

937
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: and let us know what you think. It is. One

938
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Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Klata Health from the Seneca Studios

939
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: in Orchard Park. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome Back.

940
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: One goes Live. John Murphy, Steve Tanscer, and Eric Woods

941
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: with us for a couple more minutes. So I mentioned this,

942
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: We're talking about the hit on Josh Allen yesterday and

943
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: Tom Brady talked about it this morning on his radio

944
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: show on w e I Radio in Boston. Listen to

945
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: what Brady said. Actually, I had a play like that

946
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: up in Buffalo early in my career where I was

947
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: scrambling up the right side and you know, tried to

948
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: hold onto the ball and I tried to slide late

949
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: and guy hit me and my helmet flew about ten

950
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: yards away. You know, it kind of riled up their

951
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: whole sideline, and uh, you know it just I remember

952
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: the next day, Coach Belichick said to me, I'll never

953
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: forget this. He said, hey, Brady, if you want to

954
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: have a career in this league, you know, when you're

955
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: running like that, you either throw the ball away or

956
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: you slide. So I'll never forget Coach Belichick telling me that.

957
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: And I've kind of taken to that, you know, I

958
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: think that's you know, a lot of quarterbacks suit who

959
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: do run um. You know, it's it's you're trying to

960
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: make yards and it's great, you know, at the same time,

961
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: you're susceptible to you know, big hits um, you know.

962
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: And that's again, whether it's flagged or not, or whether

963
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: it's a penalty. I mean, that's a lot of the

964
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: rules have changed over the years. But you know, from

965
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback standpoint, you know, I feel like it's always

966
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: best to try to be available to the team, and

967
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: it's try to take you risk reward and so forth.

968
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: And again, nobody likes to see anybody get hurt out there,

969
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: you know, And and you know, from my own experience,

970
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, I try to do the best I can

971
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: to avoid, you know, any big shots like that Tom

972
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: Brady and his radio show. Yeah, I would say he

973
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: tries to make himself available. He's forty two years old.

974
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: He's been available for all these years, right. The best

975
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: ability is availability. I mean, particularly for a guy like

976
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: him and he's you know, a guy like Patrick Mahomes,

977
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: a guy like Drew Brees who is not available. The

978
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: best ability is when you're the guy. You got to

979
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: make sure you line up every week. And that's one

980
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: of the things I've been on the play calling a

981
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: little bit about through four weeks is some of the

982
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: design quarterback runs. Josh is naturally going to scramble at times.

983
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: He is going to pick up yards with his legs.

984
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: That's one of his greatest abilities. You want to take

985
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: that away from him. And there's crucial points of the game,

986
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: and I mentioned this before, there's crucial points of the

987
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: game where it's worth taking a shot. There's worth some

988
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: contact because you're trying to win the football game. And

989
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: maybe that third and eighth that Josh was trying to convert,

990
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: that third and nine where he was going past the six,

991
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: maybe that's an instance where you want him to take

992
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: some contact. But unfortunately now you might be playing this

993
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: week without your starting quarterback. And in the NFL, if

994
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,959
Speaker 1: you lose running back, defensive end, almost any other player

995
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: on the team, that point spread will move, maybe a

996
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: half a point a quarterback. It could be a full touchdown.

997
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: It moves. And so Brady's point is spot on at

998
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. As much that goes into the quarterback

999
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: position is important. It is for the team each and

1000
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: every week. You have to be available. I'd say one

1001
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: more call while Eric joins us here, WHILEY and cheek dwaga, hello,

1002
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: WHILEY go ahead, you're on the here. How are you

1003
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: doing guys right? I think Josh has got to realize

1004
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: there's no letter I in team. You know, He's got

1005
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: ten other guys out there, you know, and he's trying

1006
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: to play I don't want to say superhero, but you know,

1007
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: trying to be a one man game. I think he's

1008
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: just got a you all. Yeah, it was I play

1009
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: within himself, I guess is probably the best way to

1010
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: put I heard you're saying, well, I mean, I want

1011
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: to get Steven and Eric on this, but let me say, see, Mike,

1012
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: Josh did not play well today. But I thought he

1013
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: was confused mostly. You know, I don't think it was

1014
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: hero ball or let me take care of this. I

1015
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: think it was like, man, I've never seen that before.

1016
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: I think there's some of that. There's a lot going

1017
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: on yesterday. This game had a lot of layers, uh,

1018
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: and it was a it was a great big onion.

1019
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: So you know, we were all watching stuff unferral, some good,

1020
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,959
Speaker 1: some bad. But I think there were times when, yeah, Josh,

1021
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: he tries to go deep a little too much. He simply,

1022
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, tries to make a play when it's not

1023
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: there to be made. I think had costs him interceptions

1024
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: up virtually every game. And I think there's sometimes when

1025
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: he just doesn't look to his check downs quickly or

1026
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: often enough, and I think that sometimes gets him into trouble.

1027
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: Not all compounds. Yeah, when you're struggling in a game,

1028
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: when you start the game over five and your completions

1029
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: aren't there and you're not moving the football, it can

1030
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: force you to try and make big plays. And when

1031
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: he forced the ball down the field on his first interception,

1032
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: the safety made an easy interception, it was almost like

1033
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: a punt return for him. You know, the way the

1034
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: wall hung up in the air. And then we mentioned

1035
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: the one interception to Zay Jones. I thought that was

1036
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: a worthy shot one on one cover. He's making a

1037
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: shot down the field and he throws it off his

1038
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: back foot so he's unable to get it all the

1039
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: way there. But then the interception he threw on the

1040
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: run down the sideline where Dawson Knox and za Jones

1041
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: are both standing in that area. That's a ball that's

1042
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: simply just got to be thrown out of bounds. Hey, Erk,

1043
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: we gotta let you go, and we're happy to have

1044
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: you on the broadcast and your week will be busy again. Right.

1045
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: You got an ECC broadcast in Atlanta on Saturday, Georgia

1046
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: Tech yep SO, four pm UNC at North Carolina at

1047
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. North Carolina's coming off of an almost upset

1048
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: against Clemson and Georgia Tech's a fascinating story. Not the

1049
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: boar the bill those listeners with acc football, but when

1050
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: you convert from a triple option offense to a now

1051
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: spread offense, it is incredible. Their offensive line had to

1052
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: gain over one hundred pounds combined. You know, they're playing

1053
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: offensive line at two sixty and now they're trying to

1054
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: pass block. They've never These guys are are former high

1055
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: school defensive lineman that we're just cut blocking and firing

1056
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: off the ball like a defensive line. And now they

1057
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: got him trying to take pass sets. It's a It's

1058
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: a fascinating deal. But Georgia Tech is really struggling this year.

1059
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: Hopefully they can keep it a game or otherwise we're

1060
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: gonna be preparing a lot of block coverage like we

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Speaker 1: did last week for Holy Cross Syracuse when you would

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00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: have got Tennessee and UH and the Bills. I mean, initially,

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00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: I don't I don't care about points spite, but it

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00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: should be a no matter who's the quarterback for Buffalo,

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00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: it should be an easier task. I would think this Sunday,

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00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: not easy, but easier than yesterday for sure. Definitely in

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00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: Tennessee doesn't come in with a prolific offense. They have

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00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: some playmakers a J. Brown on the outside, Marcus Mariota.

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00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 1: One thing he has done a good job of this year,

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00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: which is the reason they're two and two, is he

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00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: hasn't thrown any interceptions. So their defense is playing well.

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00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: I think they're fourth in the league statistically in yards

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00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: per game or sorry, and points giving up per game.

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00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: So they're doing some good things defensively. But this is

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00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: a game the Bills are gonna go down to Nashville.

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00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: The last time we played down in Nashville, I was

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00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: on the team, and I'll tell you what it felt

1078
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: like a home game there. And I've talked to a

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00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: lot of people around town. They're gonna be down to

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00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: Nashville for the game. Should be a ton of fun.

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00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: I'm sticking around for the night. Me and the wife

1082
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: are gonna have a nice little date night post game

1083
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 1: down in Nashville. So really really looking forward to about

1084
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: another back to back calling games next weekend, hopefully a

1085
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: Bill's victory, get back on track, and you know what

1086
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: to put it in perspective, if you would have said, hey,

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00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: through the first quarter of the season, the Bills are

1088
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: gonna be three and one, I think you would lock

1089
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: it in. And if the Bills can get a victory

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00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: this week and get to four and one at the

1091
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: buy I know everybody would have taken four and one

1092
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: at to buy. So this week becomes crucial. You get

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00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: in the Bills, get this week and then the BUYE week,

1094
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 1: and they have some soft tissue injury, US, Robert Froster groin,

1095
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: singletary hamstring, Taren Johnson hamstring. Maybe some of these guys

1096
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: start coming back and watch out because the Bills can

1097
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: really make a run. You get some of those playmakers,

1098
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: some of that speedback on the field. Thanks Eric, thanks

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00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: for this, Thanks for yesterday a good job. We'll see

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00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: you again this weekend. I appreciate you. Pleasure Eric Woods

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00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: joining us on Mondays after the Bills game. We're taking

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00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: a break and we're coming back. Chris Brown, Bills insider

1103
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: from Buffalo Bills Doom. I'm going to join us more

1104
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: of your phone calls as well. Your biggest takeaway from

1105
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: yesterday's game against the Patriots. Let us know what you think.

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Speaker 1: It is. One Bill's Live presented by Klada Hell from

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00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: the Seneca Studios. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, Bills

1108
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: Radio Network, Sporty date update from One Bill's Drive to

1109
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: Bills players here today, workouts, film review review today, the

1110
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: first Monday I'd worked this year after a loss. Josh

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00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,240
Speaker 1: Allen is in concussion protocol after that helmet. The helmet

1112
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: hit from Patriot safety Jonathan Jones knocked him out of

1113
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: the game early in the fourth quarter. Jones flag for

1114
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: unnecessary roughness and under league rules he may be subject

1115
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: to a penalty of fine coming up. Senior vice president

1116
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: of a Fishing in Al Riveron says his review the

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00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: hit showed that it did not meet the criteria fitting

1118
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: of an ejection from the game. Okay, Bill's had Tom

1119
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: Brady to one hundred and fifty yards in an interception,

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Speaker 1: is first of the season yesterday and a forty five

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00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: point nine passer raiding He averaged just three point eight

1122
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: yards per pass attempt. A Buffalo defense was outstanding yesterday

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00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: in the loss, but in the end the Bills were

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00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: outscored sixteen to ten and got their first loss of

1125
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: the year. NFL has suspended Raiders linebacker Vantes Berfect for

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00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. He's been suspended following his

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00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: helmet the helmet hit on Colts tight end Jack Doyle

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00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: Burfett dejected from the Raiders win over the Colts yesterday

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00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: for lowering the helmet to make contact early in the

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00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: second quarter. NFL Network says Berfect will appeal his suspension

1131
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: for the rest of the year. Bengals Pro Bowl wide

1132
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: out aj Green will not play tonight against the theaters

1133
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: and could be out for a while as he from

1134
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: preseason ankle surgery. He's wearing a protective boot. He has

1135
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: been running and working out, but not expect you to

1136
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: be ready for a while out tonight when the Bengals

1137
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: play at Pittsburgh, a couple of winless teams owing three.

1138
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: Cincinnati owen three. Pittsburgh and the Steelers lead the all

1139
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: time series with sixty two wins to Cincinnati's thirty five,

1140
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh has won the past seven Tonight kick off

1141
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: at eight fifteen tonight at Hinesfield the Bengals and the Steelers.

1142
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: Bear's quarterback Mitchell Trubisky suffered a left shoulder injury yesterday

1143
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: in the win over Minnesota. Coach Mattneggie says he does

1144
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: not think Trubisky's injury was a season ender, but he

1145
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: did not have much more information than that. And the

1146
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers have wrapped up their training camp that was

1147
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: yesterday morning a practice at Key Bank Center. They returned

1148
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: to practice tomorrow getting set for the season opener Thursday

1149
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: night seven o'clock and then the home opener scheduled for

1150
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: Saturday against New Jersey. Welcome Back Hour number two John

1151
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker. It is one Bills Live from

1152
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: the as Seneca Studio in Orchard Park and a special

1153
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: guest this hour. You're gonna stay with Owen, You're gonna

1154
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: stay with us. Let's get this out of the way.

1155
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Bills insider from Buffalo Bills, Tex No, because

1156
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: I always put you on the spot in the middle

1157
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: of your segments. Christ you want stay another hour? And

1158
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: you never say no? And I feel like, I'm I

1159
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: know you're a busy man. What you got lunch coming up?

1160
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: At one forty five? Like? Wow, how long do you

1161
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: want to stay? You want to do one segment? Entice him?

1162
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: How many segments you want to do? I don't know.

1163
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: Let's set the ground rules right here. That's ten after already,

1164
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: So you guys are way way late on your clocks,

1165
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: so that that's on you, it is on me. I

1166
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: just stay two segments, two segments. I decided, Can you

1167
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: do two segments? Or you think? Chris Brown Bills inside

1168
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: of Buffalo Bills dot Com in studio with us Chris,

1169
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: We're asking our listeners today and viewers about their biggest

1170
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: takeaway from the Bills loss to the Patriots. I want

1171
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: to get yours. Can I give me mine? Can I

1172
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: give you mine? You're gonna you guys run the show.

1173
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't know why you think I'm

1174
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: gonna be able to go against whatever you want to do.

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00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: The NFL is great. Two great defenses. I love the

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00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,479
Speaker 1: fact that people can appreciate a great defensive game still

1177
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: in this era of the NFL. The NFL is great.

1178
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: That game yesterday was great evidence towards that. I am

1179
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: bitterly disappointed at the Law, not because you know, the

1180
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: Bills played well defensively, outstanding defensively, but that they were

1181
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: this close to winning and did not. But my overall

1182
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: biggest takeaway, Chris, is the NFL was great even when

1183
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: there's not a kind of point speed scored. It was

1184
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: an entertaining game for being a low scoring game, and

1185
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us thought it was going

1186
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: to be low scoring knowing this caliber the two defenses

1187
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 1: that were in this game. I believe, and I still

1188
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: even after the game, believe this that the Bills defense

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00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: had the taller task in this one because they were

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00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: going against the better offense, or at least the more

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00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: consistent one. And it was my opinion that they matched

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00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: what the defense for the Patriots did, if not exceeded it.

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00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: And I know on the stat sheet it'll look like

1194
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: the Patriots defense kind of ruled the day because they

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00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: got the takeaways that they did. And we know that,

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00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, analytics and everything else says if you're the

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00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: team with more of the takeaways, more often than not,

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00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: you're going to win the game. But all I know

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Speaker 1: is yards allowed, touch downs allowed on possessions, you know,

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00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: right now, I mean, as great as the Bills defense

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00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: has played from start to game four in this season,

1202
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 1: the stat that maybe stands out to me more than

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00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: any other Okay the Bills right now are they have

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00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: given up the third fewest touchdown drives this season six okay, defensively,

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00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: six touchdown drives. They've been on the field for the

1206
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: second most possessions in the league forty nine and they

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00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: and still they've given up the third fewest touchdown drives

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00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: six out of forty nine this season. That is an

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00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: amazing number to me considering how much they've been on

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Speaker 1: the field. Because everybody's talking about how the San Francisco

1211
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: defense is off to this great start, they've been on

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Speaker 1: the field for thirty five possessions. The Bills have been

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00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: on the field for I mean fourteen more than that, right,

1214
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: it's a full game. Yeah, yeah, So, I mean they've

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Speaker 1: been unreal this year, Bills. The Bills are given up

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Speaker 1: number five in the league. They've given up fifteen point five,

1217
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: now fifteen point eight points a game. The team they're

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00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: playing this week, Tennessee's given up fifteen point five. They're

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Speaker 1: number four overall. Then the Cowboys and the Bears, and

1220
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: of course the Patriots given up less than a touchdown

1221
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: and an extra point, and if you take away the

1222
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: non offensive touchdowns, the Bills are given up twelve points

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00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: a game. Forty eight points they've given up this year

1224
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: offensive scores. I mean, it's just it's really really, really impressive. Yeah.

1225
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Speaker 1: And the Patriots are right there as well. I mean

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00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: they've yes, yeah, they've got they've given up what they've

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Speaker 1: got an interception pick six last week that it counts

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Speaker 1: against them, and maybe a kick return as well. Ye,

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00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: So they they're the same. Say they're great to get

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00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: against these to give credit where it's due, they're great.

1231
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: They're a great defense. And I think the thing that

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00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: the two the two units have in common is they

1233
00:58:55,640 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: play great team defense. It is an eleven man unit.

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00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: You know, you look at the Chicago Bears. They got

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Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, a team Hicks. I mean superstar level players. Yeah,

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00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean so you know, Aaron Donald, guys that can

1237
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: just single handedly take over the game. I mean you can't.

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00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: You don't have that. I mean, you've You've got really, really,

1239
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: really good players here in Buffalo at every level of

1240
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: your defense. But they're not They're either too young and

1241
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: inexperience to be superstar caliber yet Tremaine Edmonds being an example,

1242
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: or they're just not quite at that super super elite level.

1243
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: But you put them all together in some of their parts,

1244
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: holy cow, like really really good. They tackle really well.

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00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: That was shown up. That showed up yesterday. A couple

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00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: of times in space they had a one on one tackle,

1247
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: made the tackle. Same thing with the Patriots, they didn't.

1248
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: They don't miss tackles. All these good defenses are the

1249
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: same thing. First guy to the ball, makes the tackle

1250
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: and it. You know, yards are hard to come by

1251
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: and as a result, points are hard to come by

1252
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: for both those colors. That's what stood out for me

1253
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: with the Patriots defense. By the way, what they don't

1254
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: mis tackles right, well, did the first guy remember one

1255
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: going into that game? And six percent mistach Yes, lowest

1256
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: mistackle rate in the league going into the game. And

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01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: you saw why yesterday. I mean, how many times in

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01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: the first three weeks did you see Josh escape initial

1259
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: wrap ups or contact in the offensive backfield that did

1260
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: not happen? Maybe more than once yesterday? And did you

1261
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: guys have mentioned the Bills are pretty good And I

1262
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: keep thinking about the one James White catch Matt Milano

1263
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: single up and Mattmilonald just dropped him. It was a

1264
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: great open field tax. Yes, it was great. It's like

1265
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: a two yard game first and ten or something. It

1266
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, Chris Brown, Bills inside a Buffalo Bills

1267
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Speaker 1: dot Com is with us. We'll take your phone calls.

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01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: Biggest takeaway from yesterday's lost at the Patriots. But I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about Josh Hammond a little bit here, Chris,

1270
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: And you know I've got the question already. What does

1271
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: this mean? Concussion protocol? Tell us what it means and

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01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: what you know about the future for Yeah, So it's

1273
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: a five step returned to participation protocol. So right now

1274
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: he's in the rest and recovery phase. You know, he

1275
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: where he has to get is back to where his

1276
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: baseline test is. So you know he was exhibiting concussion

1277
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: symptoms yesterday after the game, put in the protocol. He

1278
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: probably came in this morning, took a test, and if

1279
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: he's still showing symptoms and his brain activity is not

1280
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: back to what his baseline test brain activity is, then

1281
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: he's going to stay in the protocol and he's going

1282
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: to rest and recover. If he gets back to baseline numbers,

1283
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: then he goes to step two, which is light aerobic exercise.

1284
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: And then again they check the next day after your

1285
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: first day of light aerobic exercise, are you still at

1286
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: the baseline level. If you're not well, then you stay

1287
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: there or you go back to rest and recovery. So

1288
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: there are five steps that he's got to get through,

1289
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: and depending on the severity of the symptoms, the persistence

1290
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: of those symptoms, or the return of those symptoms, if

1291
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: he takes a step forward, is going to determine how

1292
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: long he's going to be off the practice field. And

1293
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: the important thing for fans and no two important things

1294
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 1: I think are a there are no timetables right and

1295
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: by they don't provide updates, we won't know. No, Basically,

1296
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: all coach McDermott can say is he is still in

1297
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: the protocol or he's out of the protocol. He really

1298
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: cannot give details, as you know, I mean, that's the

1299
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: rules of the league. Yeah, they can't say what step

1300
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: he's in. Now. We can get clues as to what

1301
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: step he's in based on what we see him doing

1302
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: out on the practice field, but if he's not out there,

1303
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: we're kind of in the dark. Yeah, and that's we

1304
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: just have to watch and see how he progresses. Now,

1305
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: it also comes to back now he jogged off the

1306
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: field and was you know, you would think too that

1307
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: if he comes back today and it's you know, as

1308
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: baselines or whatever they are, and there's there is a

1309
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: case that he'll start out a little quicker if it

1310
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: wasn't serious to begin with. But they got to go

1311
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: through everything and one of the reasons, the concerning thing

1312
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: was that he had to go off the field yesterday

1313
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: to get further evaluated in the locker room. So something

1314
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: was going on. Well, that's just the rule. You have

1315
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: to once you've been taken off the field and you've

1316
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: been examining the tent by the independent neurologist. Then they say,

1317
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: we got to put you through the full test inside

1318
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: where they run the full gamut of you know, being

1319
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: evaluated for a head injury, and then you know, to

1320
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: take that a step further. Guys don't read anything into

1321
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: him jogging off the field as well, well, he only

1322
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: got a little ding. That doesn't apply here. I mean,

1323
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: let me here's a perfect example. Carlos Williams when he

1324
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: was with the Bills. There was a game, he finished

1325
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: the game Monday morning, he wakes up and he's all

1326
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: over the map with his head, and he comes in,

1327
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: he gets tested, he's diagnosed with a concussion twenty four

1328
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: hours later, which can happen. It's there's a twenty four

1329
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: hour window there, and sometimes players don't feel any of

1330
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: the symptoms at all postgame, and then the next morning

1331
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: they wake up and they're like whoa, Like what the

1332
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: heck's going on? And bang that's when the concussion symptoms surface.

1333
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: It's usually within twenty four hours. And if Josh cannot

1334
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: play the Sunday at Tennessee, we're looking at Matt Barkley

1335
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: and I would guess most likely you may have a

1336
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: thought on this Davis Wept right, the practice squad's court quarterback. Well, yeah,

1337
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: if they know they're not gonna have Josh, they're probably

1338
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: gonna have to call Davis Webb up up and make

1339
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: him active. Yes, all right, let's talk about Josh by

1340
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: the way. We'll get to your calls in a moment.

1341
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Josh Allen's game. Aside from the head hit,

1342
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: which is serious enough, he was unsettled, Chris I thought

1343
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: right from the start, and we knew that the Patriots

1344
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: would show him different things. They did, and Josh appeared unsettled, uneasy,

1345
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: and started the game kind of throwing it all over

1346
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: the place and almost got worse as it went along.

1347
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: I think what he was not trusting what he was

1348
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: seeing because the disguises were good by the Patriots, and

1349
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: that inability to mentally process what he was seeing translated

1350
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: to his physical ability in the game, because I think

1351
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: there were times where he hurried throws because he thought

1352
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: he saw something and wanted to get it off quick.

1353
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: I think his feet were never under him with a

1354
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: solid base, and that's why we saw passes sailing, passes

1355
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: going into the dirt, passes going wide to their targets.

1356
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: His feet were probably as bad as they were last year,

1357
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: when establishing a consistent base underneath him was up and

1358
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: down and uneven last year. That happened yesterday. Now people

1359
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: can say, well, Josh regressed or you know whatever. He

1360
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: was also facing a damn good defense that was giving

1361
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: him an awful lot of pressure in addition to those

1362
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: disguised looks and a complicated defense, right, and a complicated defense.

1363
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: So I think it was a combination of going against

1364
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in football. Those defenses are

1365
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: gonna make any quarterback look bad. Now you add that

1366
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: in with an inexperienced quarterback, and I think you're gonna

1367
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: get what you got yesterday. Now, I think what also

1368
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: was working against Josh was his own competitive nature. I

1369
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: think there are times where Josh is so competitive that

1370
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: it almost works to his own detriment or incidents. In mind,

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01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: all four sacks were on third downs yesterday. All four

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01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: times he got sacked on third down. One time he

1373
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: took his team out a field goal range couldn't even

1374
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: kick a fee goal. The other time it went from

1375
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: a forty four yard to a forty nine yard or

1376
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: Now it's not Josh's fault that Houshka missed it from

1377
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: forty nine. That's well within Stephen Houshka's range, So that's

1378
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: not on him, but it doesn't help the cause, I guess,

1379
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. And then the other two times,

1380
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: you know you're out of field goal range, and then

1381
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: on top of that, and I don't know where the

1382
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: fault lies here, but this is the third consecutive week

1383
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: where this team has had to burn time outs because

1384
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: they can't get the playoff on time. Whether it's because

1385
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: it's not getting into them, whether they're not breaking the huddle, whatever,

1386
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: the part of the operations that's at fault here is.

1387
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: The bottom line is it's an issue now, and it

1388
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: was exacerbated this past Sunday, maybe more than we've ever

1389
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: seen it to this point in the season. So you've

1390
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: seen it for three weeks now. Do you think it's

1391
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: better that it might be three or four different things

1392
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: causing it or is it should it be just one

1393
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: that they can fix. I don't care how many things

1394
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: it is. It's got to get fixed that. That's the

1395
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: bottom line. You can't be burning. You can't be burning.

1396
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: They burned three time outs yesterday because they couldn't get

1397
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: the play and that just cannot have and then took

1398
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: it to lay a game when they couldn't get into

1399
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: yes because they didn't have any timeouts left. Yeah, let's

1400
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: take your phone call. Are you going to a phone call? Yeah,

1401
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna plug in here, fix your your thing. Rex

1402
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: in Tanawanna, Hi Rex here on the air of this

1403
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: go ahead. Rex. Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Thanks.

1404
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: Um my observations from the game yesterday, I'm gonna start

1405
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. Uh, definitely was don impressed to say

1406
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: the least. Um it was. I'm gonna blame blame him

1407
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: for the law solely those turnovers we don't have that

1408
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: he takes care of the football. I think we're walking

1409
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: out with a win. We're in the lead in the division.

1410
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope he just learns from this. I

1411
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: don't know when he's gonna learn from it, but I

1412
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: hope this is the game he finally learns from it.

1413
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: I mean, now if he can even remember the game,

1414
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:46,439
Speaker 1: but um, this is Uh. I just felt my heart

1415
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: sinking in my chest watching this, and I'm I'm gonna

1416
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: be looking for him to just improve with taking care

1417
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: of the ball. Okay, Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, and yeah,

1418
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: I think you'll learn. I think Josh is a good student.

1419
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: It's Chris's point. I was as competitive as they come,

1420
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he's frustrated with the way that things

1421
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: went yesterday. I don't know about blame. I don't care

1422
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: about blame. I don't look to blame x or Y

1423
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: for the loss. Yeah, I'm I think he did play

1424
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: nervous yesterday. I thought his body language early in the

1425
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: game and the and the easy throws that he missed

1426
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: were telling, and I think it led to him playing

1427
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: the game a little bit differently than you would like

1428
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: to see him playing, and differently than we've seen him

1429
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: play earlier. Certainly, and at the core of it is

1430
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: the Patriot defense. But nevertheless, I mean that's Josh looked

1431
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: like he did early last year, not early this year.

1432
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: So far. That was tough. I'll call here from Chris

1433
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 1: on Grand Island. Chris joins us. Hello, Chris, welcome to

1434
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: the show. All right, thanks for taking my call. Sure,

1435
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: a couple of things I want to say. It looks

1436
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: to me like Zay Jones, seems a little too much

1437
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 1: like Calvin Benjamin to me where he's not playing defense,

1438
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: when he's on offense going after those balls. I think

1439
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: boltonptions that were against a Jones, that he could have

1440
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 1: done something a little bit better to try to prevent

1441
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: those interceptions. I think that Josh Allen's holding onto the

1442
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: ball way too long yesterday. I think that really killed us.

1443
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: That old line did great, and then he tried to

1444
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: scramble a few times. That's what caused all those sacks.

1445
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: And the Trey White Gronkowski hit last year it's very

1446
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: similar to one yesterday, both against New England, both if

1447
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,759
Speaker 1: he I personally think that the guy that hit Antlon yesterday,

1448
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: I think he put his shoulder down. They say he

1449
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: was turning to avoid, but no, I think he put

1450
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: it into him. So I think that was a little

1451
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: vicious or that all right punt from Yorks. I think

1452
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: they should have be able to have an audible out

1453
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: of that. Well they're allowed to. They didn't. I mean, yeah,

1454
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: they should have, Yeah they should Well, yeah, they's an

1455
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: uncovered gunner. Yeah, they're a pass if you have any

1456
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: confidence in the work has to throw the football. I'm

1457
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: sure Steve has addressed this already based on the block

1458
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: punt and everything, but you got to adjust when you

1459
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: got creepers coming in from the outside, and you can't

1460
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: ask pat to Marco to block two guys on his

1461
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 1: side of the formation. That's just unfair. Did you see,

1462
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: and Eric, we talked about this first hour, but Eric

1463
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: Wood and I both came across somebody pointed out that

1464
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: the Giants did the same thing, uncovered the gunners and

1465
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 1: the Bills did not adjust. The Giants didn't get a

1466
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: block or anything right. Clearly, Patriots did homework and saw

1467
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: that and said let's try this, and they know Behorks

1468
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: and they were helped by the fact that the snap

1469
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: was a little low, so Bjork has had to bend

1470
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: down to take it off his shoetops and then stand

1471
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 1: up and then put I mean, that's an extra tenth

1472
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: of a second at least, and that's that's only going

1473
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: to help the guy get there in time to get

1474
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: a clean block, which you do it huge play, all right.

1475
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: Before we get to the break, they hit. We've talked

1476
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: about this a lot too the first hour, but we

1477
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: didn't talk to you about it. They headed hit the helmet,

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01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 1: hit on Josh Allen, eject him, eject him, that's what

1479
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: I say. Yeah, the players, Stephen Eric said, not necessarily. Yeah.

1480
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: Here's the thing that really bothers me about this lowering

1481
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: the helmet thing. As an offensive player or a defensive player.

1482
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: When you are an offensive player and you're running with

1483
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,839
Speaker 1: the football and you know you're going to absorb contact,

1484
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: what is your natural reaction to kind of ball up

1485
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 1: and protect yourself? Right, Well, what's gonna happen when you

1486
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: ball up? Your helmet's gonna go down? Duh? I mean,

1487
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: come on, though, he lowered his helmet, so it renders

1488
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 1: the hit, uh non ejectionable. Get the heck out of

1489
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 1: here with that. Come on, Steve, I mean every every player,

1490
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 1: when they see they're going to be absorbed contact, you

1491
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: ball up. It's just a natural defense mechanism. So now

1492
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna fault the quarterback for balling up to protect

1493
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: himself and say, wow, that's not ejectionable because the guy

1494
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: lowered his helmet too. On offense. He didn't it that much, Steve,

1495
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: your thoughts now, he should have been should have been

1496
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: a penalty. I don't know that he should have been

1497
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: abjective because I'll tell you this, um when Jones is there,

1498
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: if you'll watch. He's got both feet planned and he's

1499
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: not running. He's kind of waiting. And then he does

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01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: extend into Josh and trying and take him on, but

1501
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: he's not running at him. Um, it was a yeah,

1502
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 1: it was a helmet to helmet classic penalty. Uh, I

1503
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: mean talking about And here's the thing you go back on.

1504
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: You look at the Vantes perfect helmet hit from yesterday.

1505
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 1: That's that is ejectable. This one, it's close, but I

1506
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 1: don't I would. I would have said no. And when

1507
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: it happened live, I was like, oh, wow, you gotta

1508
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: I thought you might eject him. But as I look

1509
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 1: at a slow motion, actually I actually back away from that. Yeah,

1510
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: it's an absolute penalty, and I think he should be fined.

1511
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 1: But and the moment when it happened after I saw

1512
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: it in slow motion, I had to see it in

1513
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: slow motion to back off that because I was kind

1514
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: of wound up like everybody else. Uh, I'm okay with

1515
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 1: the way he's handle it. If he gets fined, okay.

1516
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: So here's the difference between that hit and the perfect

1517
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: The perfect hit is spearing. I don't think there's any

1518
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,600
Speaker 1: question about that. This is not spear totally egregious. This

1519
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: is not spearing because, as Steve pointed out, he's he's

1520
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: kind of waiting at his flat footed. He's not do

1521
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, he's not right making

1522
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: a run at him for ten yars not airborne, right,

1523
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: he hasn't left his feet. But the bottom line is this,

1524
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: he's there and he has chance to make a tackle

1525
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: with his head up? Does he not? Yea, he has

1526
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: a chance to make a tackle with his head up.

1527
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 1: He chooses knowingly chooses not too not too. And that's

1528
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: my issue and that's why this is an injectionable hit

1529
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: in my estimation. Agree, I think it should be has

1530
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: a chance to hit him head up, he does not

1531
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: chooses not to. He turned into his helmet, not away

1532
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: from his helmet. There's a multi that's the thing where

1533
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 1: That's why I should be. You put your left shoulder

1534
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: into Josh there, you're not hitting him with your helmet,

1535
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: and he turned his right shoulder in to make sure

1536
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: helmet contact was made. I mean his multi thousand dollars

1537
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: fine coming his way? Right? Oh? Yeah, has to be

1538
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: that would be. Yeah. I think that's a must. I

1539
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 1: think so, and I agree with Micah Hyde by the way, too,

1540
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 1: they make that hit on twelve, they're out of the game.

1541
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: Not even a question. All right, we're gonna take a break.

1542
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 1: We've already negotiated the terms of Chris's release from the show.

1543
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 1: He's one more segment with us, so come on back.

1544
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: We'll take more phone calls. It is One Bill's Live,

1545
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health for Company from the Seneca Studio.

1546
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: That's his Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back John Murphy and

1547
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 1: see Tansker One Bills Live. Midway through the show, we

1548
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: got Evan Washburn coming up at two o'clock today from

1549
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: the NFL on CBS. He was on the sidelines of

1550
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 1: yesterday's game. Chris, let's talk about replay challenges for a minute.

1551
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: We were talking about a break. It did not go

1552
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: well yesterday and almost predictably, I said it on the

1553
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 1: Area today. I've never seen a spot of the ball

1554
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: changed on a replay review, have you? I can't remember one,

1555
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: and believe me, I hate how arbitrary. Yeah, the spotting

1556
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: of the football is. And Steve, I remember Steve and

1557
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,759
Speaker 1: I did a show when you were on vacation about

1558
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,759
Speaker 1: trying to fix this and how the NFL should invest

1559
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: in you know, let's get some R and D going here. Basically,

1560
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: you can't tell me that if they have an electronic

1561
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: beam in tennis that determines whether a ball is in

1562
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: or out, that you can't have. We taught Steve and

1563
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 1: I did a show on this. You can't tell me

1564
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: that you can't have something that lines up as a

1565
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: track on the sideline that sends a beam across the field.

1566
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 1: It's just like your garage door opener, you know, the

1567
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 1: beam that if you walk over at the garage door

1568
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 1: goes up and doesn't chop your head off. Why can't

1569
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,839
Speaker 1: we have a beam like that running across from sideline

1570
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: to sideline and you just get the people the hell

1571
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: out of the way, get him out of the way.

1572
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: And now you don't have the chain gang. You don't

1573
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 1: have another six guys you're paying every week. I mean,

1574
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: come on, you want to be a Phish in NFL.

1575
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: Let's go get the electronic beam, run it across and

1576
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 1: the and now the spotting of the football is an

1577
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: arbitrary anymore. You got a chip in the ball. And

1578
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: now you don't have Joe on one side of the

1579
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: field and Hector on the other going, is it over

1580
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: there six inches that'll allow us to fire the six

1581
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: guys that run the chain gang and pass the set.

1582
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it's an easy job,

1583
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 1: but my god, it's there's gotta be a better way, man,

1584
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 1: there's gotta be a better way. Look at what Tennis

1585
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: does with that. But the point is they don't change spots. No,

1586
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 1: they don't play. They can, but they rarely, rarely, rarely

1587
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,719
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, it's a tough one to challenge because

1588
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: it's so arbitrary. Yes, yeah, guys, you're listen this. They

1589
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 1: can't fix review. They can't fix replay review until they

1590
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: fix the guy who's doing the review. Well yeah, but

1591
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: but here's the thing, Steve. But here's the thing. If

1592
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: you have that electronic eye running across the field with

1593
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: a chip in the football that identifies where the football

1594
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: went down, Brownie, in twenty years, I'll say you're a genius.

1595
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: But we're not going there now because it's not gonna happen.

1596
01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's how you take the guy out

1597
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: of the So they hired the human element out CBS

1598
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: Mike Carry, Mike Pereira, Fox Terry McCauley NBC, Dean Blandino,

1599
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: NFL Network. All five of those, all four of those

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01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: guys are more qualified than the guy they've got doing

1601
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 1: the Gene Sterrator is also when they're from CBS, Jene Sterrator,

1602
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 1: and he could do basketball for you too if you

1603
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: want it. But your point is, my point is the

1604
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: last guy in the room is the least qualified one

1605
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: that's left, and he's the one that now is doing

1606
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 1: the job that all those guys were qualified to do.

1607
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,560
Speaker 1: Go down the list. Dean Blandino was brilliant at it.

1608
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 1: The whole system was set up for him to do it.

1609
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: It was he set it up. He knew how to

1610
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: use it, he knew when to step in and when

1611
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: it was consistent, it was good. He got then, he

1612
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: got the replays right, the reviews right. They were easily explainable,

1613
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 1: the rules were upheld, and everybody was happy when he

1614
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: reviewed it and gave you the reason. Even if it

1615
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: was denied, he'd tell you the solid reason. Now you

1616
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: got the sixth guy down the list of the people

1617
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: who are qualified to do the job left, he's before

1618
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: he turned the lights out. They gave him the job

1619
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 1: before you really turned up the volume. Let me see.

1620
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, But what does they have

1621
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 1: to do with yesterday's challenges by the Bills? Are they

1622
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 1: with a bad challenges? Yeah? Because he didn't get them. Well,

1623
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 1: it's only a good challenge if you get if you

1624
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: win every other challenges. Did they screw up the replay review?

1625
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that. Yeah, which the sideline interception to

1626
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: Zay Jones where the get the guy was had come

1627
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 1: down with it one foot downs, Zay Jones is standing

1628
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 1: out of bound, hand on the ball, balls dead. Then

1629
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: the other foot comes down, balls out of bounds. No,

1630
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't out of bounds because they guy in New

1631
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 1: York didn't catch that and now it's going the other

1632
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 1: way as an interception. You tell me that that didn't

1633
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: make a difference about that one. That was not a

1634
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: challenge though, that of course was the It was a review, right,

1635
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 1: it's a worse review. Yes, it's worse. I don't know

1636
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 1: if it's worse. It was bad. But what about the

1637
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 1: uh the past interferencey? No, the Bills challenge at right

1638
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: offensive pass interference and what about the uh um the

1639
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: spot of the ball. I just think those are a

1640
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: weak challenges that you're never not never, you're really gonna

1641
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: get And I might question the challenge, I get it.

1642
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: My point is you're you're you're challenging to somebody who's

1643
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: ain't gonna get it right anyway, that's my point the challenge. Sorry,

1644
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,719
Speaker 1: they missed the challenge. Reviewed thing now is that joke?

1645
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 1: Lad and his staff just flat out miss stuff? Oh yeah,

1646
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 1: I mean the intentional grounding by Brady. I mean, Jerry

1647
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: Hues is arguing with that guy for thirty seconds after

1648
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: the play, saying are we throwing the flag? He's going

1649
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: like this, where's the flag? This is intentional grounding. The

1650
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 1: ball did not get back to the line of scrimmage,

1651
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 1: and instead of punting ten yards deeper, they're just punting

1652
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 1: the ball away. Well, I thought the ball did get

1653
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: past the line of scrimmage. No, not on that one.

1654
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 1: Not when they were coming towards the tunnel endy. No

1655
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: way it reached the line of scrimmage. Absolutely not. And

1656
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: he didn't throw it to any one, no one. No

1657
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 1: intentional grounding. And I mean, and and there's a part

1658
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: of me that really openly wonders do the ref say, wow,

1659
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: it's fourth down? Anyway, what are you worried about ten yards?

1660
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: But lost to believe me? I mean, you don't think

1661
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: conversations like that go on ridiculous. And then how about

1662
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: the one for pass interference where they picked it up. Oh,

1663
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: there's no interference there. Yeah, he just threw the flag

1664
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: because you know he was you know, he thought it

1665
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: was a tissue in his pocket and needed anymore uncatchable.

1666
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the big gray that's the gray area too.

1667
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 1: I can't catch it because the guy's holding me. I'd

1668
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 1: have been three yards. Please say that, then, please say that. Yeah,

1669
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 1: I hear there was no foul on the play. The

1670
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: ball was deemed uncatchable. I got picking up the flag.

1671
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: There's a lot of years to that. And it's and I,

1672
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 1: like I said earlier in the show, we're kind of

1673
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: going off the handle here because it's really it's trip

1674
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: really frustrating when the game is all hinge, there's one

1675
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: play out there that either team could make to win

1676
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: the game, and you've got this string of instances throughout

1677
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 1: the game that we just highlighted that would have made

1678
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,560
Speaker 1: a differ. Yeah, I could have made it different. The

1679
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 1: point was, and I don't want to keep going on.

1680
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 1: It was I didn't like the decision to challenge those two.

1681
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: I thought they were got you low percentage challenges. Let's

1682
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Speaker 1: go to Steven Rochester. I see you're on the air. Hey, guys,

1683
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. Sure. Yeah, I'm an old timer,

1684
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:20,560
Speaker 1: been watching the Bills since the Joe ferguson days. And

1685
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: I get a kick out of just getting a chance

1686
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: to talk to Steve Tasker. He's one of my heroes.

1687
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: That's nice thinking. That's the things that are driving me

1688
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 1: nuts on Sunday afternoons is how flagrant the defenders are

1689
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: on the path coverage as far as the rules to

1690
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 1: me are still after five yards you can't touch the

1691
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 1: guy right. No, they've given some leniency there, but I'd

1692
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 1: like you guys to talk about that a little bit.

1693
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 1: And the other thing that frustrates me as a Buffalo

1694
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 1: fan is with with all the new receivers we got,

1695
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: why aren't they breaking some long ones? Why is nobody

1696
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: getting open? And uh, I'll just let you guys talk

1697
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 1: about to talk to you for hours, but I'll hang

1698
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 1: up and listen to your response. See, let's let's tackle

1699
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots pass coverage and how they are and have

1700
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 1: been for years expert rule benders. Yeah, okay, they will clutch,

1701
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 1: they will grab, right, What the war about that? Right?

1702
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 1: And it still goes on clutching grabbing all the way

1703
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: down the field. Gilmore got flagged for it once um

1704
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: on the on the pass that actually John Brown caught anyway,

1705
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: despite the fact that there was DPI um but Jones

1706
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: was doing it. On the other side, Jackson was doing it.

1707
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: I mean, they they're they're probably coached to do that.

1708
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,560
Speaker 1: Get away with what you can get away with, and

1709
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 1: let's feel out the game. Let's see how tight these

1710
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 1: officials are going to call it. They can't call it

1711
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: every play. They're not gonna bog the game down that much.

1712
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: And unless it egregious, we're probably not gonna get flagged

1713
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: for it. And I know Eric would even mention in

1714
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 1: the broadcast with you Murph that the Patriots flip it around,

1715
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: are experts at embellishing when they are held, whether it's

1716
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 1: a defensive pass rusher, whether it's you know, an offensive

1717
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 1: player getting held by a defender. They embellish to draw

1718
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 1: the attention, to draw the contact. And you know, that's

1719
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 1: just kind of how they operate, and they get away

1720
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: with some of it and they get some of it

1721
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: called for their benefit, right, neither one of you. I mean, look,

1722
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 1: I know the officiating was a factory. It was frustrating.

1723
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: Yet pick play too, we forgot about that one. The pick,

1724
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 1: the offensive pass horse challenge, Yeah, yeah, was that? Was

1725
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: that an obvious pick? And it was a rub? It

1726
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 1: was that those kind of plays going on. I thought

1727
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: he deviated. I thought he deviated his pass route clearly stepped,

1728
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 1: clearly stepped in the path of the defender. I don't

1729
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 1: know if it was absolutely clearly stepped in the path.

1730
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: But he didn't make contact. It doesn't matter. It's like

1731
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 1: pump fake. That's that's a good play by him. If

1732
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: he didn't touch him. Now, if he tripped him at

1733
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: the back end of it, which again rule bending. Back

1734
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: to my point about rule bending, there's no nothing says

1735
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: you can't do that. Take a call here from you

1736
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: gotta physically stop the guy you can't like, Yeah, there

1737
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 1: has to be contact otherwise it doesn't count. Tim, And

1738
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 1: if you go ahead, Tim, you're in the air. Yeah.

1739
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:28,719
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox made another great play yesterday, shown that he's

1740
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: given the opportunity he can make all those plays during

1741
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: the preseason. Tommy Sweeney did a great job, and yet

1742
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 1: the Bills started Lee Smith yesterday and four penalties later,

1743
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: they still kept down putting them back in. And that

1744
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: was including after the great play that the Knox made,

1745
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 1: they puts Lee Smith back in it. And I just

1746
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: couldn't figure that one out. Well, different roles and another thing, Tim,

1747
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of two tight endsets going on here.

1748
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the snap counts here. Lee Smith had

1749
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: forty three percent of the offensive snaps. Dawson Knox had sixty,

1750
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 1: so he played a lot. They both played a lot,

1751
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 1: but Dawson played more than they're and they're two different players.

1752
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean, these are different roles that they're filling. And

1753
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 1: let's not forget Lee Smith is in there too, chiefly block,

1754
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 1: pass protect or run block. And at the end of

1755
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: the day, Frank Gore has four and a half yards

1756
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,919
Speaker 1: a carry against the number one run defense in football.

1757
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. I know they're both called tight ends,

1758
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 1: they're playing two different positions. Yeah, they're both. Lee Smith

1759
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 1: is called a tight end. He's knocks might as well

1760
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: be a tight receiver. He's Yeah, they're they're not playing

1761
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: they're called tight ends. They're labeled tight ends. They practices,

1762
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 1: they're not, they're not. They're playing two different things, and

1763
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: they're almost to the point of one of them is

1764
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: not a tight end and the other one's not either

1765
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: kind of thing, you know what I mean. So that's

1766
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 1: that's why Lee Smith is in there. It seems like

1767
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: it seems to me that you put your playmakers in

1768
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 1: there and knocks me the great play again yesterday when

1769
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: he caught the pass following backwards. Yeah, I'll tell you what, Tim,

1770
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'd love to see Dawson Knox have

1771
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: a bigger role because he seems to be coming through

1772
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: target or opportunities. I think going forward we are going

1773
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:04,600
Speaker 1: to see that. I think there is going to be

1774
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:06,919
Speaker 1: a package of plays for him. He's just too athletic

1775
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 1: and too good in traffic. Yeah, I mean, it's not

1776
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: like he's getting tremendous separation from his defenders. He's just

1777
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: going up and making plays with guys draped all over him.

1778
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 1: And that's two weeks in a row he's done that.

1779
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: By the way. He's a tough guy too. He blocks, yeah,

1780
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 1: he hits right. But I think his greatest asset for

1781
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 1: this team is his athleticisms, and so I think going forward,

1782
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 1: because I don't get the sense that Tyler Croft is

1783
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 1: going to be ready anytime soon, because this was the

1784
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: role they envisioned for Tyler Croft, and now Dawson Knox

1785
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 1: has stepped into that role and performed capably, and so

1786
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get some more rope. He's gonna

1787
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 1: get some more opportunities, and going forward, I believe they

1788
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 1: are going to be a package of plays in the

1789
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: offense for him because he is a mismatch at six

1790
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 1: to five, two hundred and fifty eight pounds and the

1791
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 1: capability of running a four to five forty. That's a

1792
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: problem for defenses. It is a matchup problem. And at

1793
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: the core of what Brian Dable calls on offense every

1794
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 1: single week in his game plan, it is finding the mismatches.

1795
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: This kid is a mismatch probably fourteen out of sixteen

1796
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 1: games he's gonna play this year. Chris Um, what do

1797
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 1: you have on Buffalo bills dot com today? Your your

1798
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,639
Speaker 1: top five, top three? Would you have to top three

1799
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: things we learned? That comes out right after, well about

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01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 1: an hour or so after that. What's coming on the website?

1801
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 1: So we had a quotecheet today where we kind of

1802
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 1: take the best from around the locker room and they

1803
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, the players kind of assess. I

1804
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 1: thought on the whole, they were largely positive, as much

1805
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 1: as this loss stung, as much as they felt they

1806
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: left the Patriots off the hook, which I think everybody

1807
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: can agree they probably did. H that they're compartmentalizing this

1808
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 1: loss pretty effectively, So you can read their comments at

1809
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot com. Obviously, we'll have the quick hits

1810
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 1: right up off of what coach says it is press

1811
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: conference at four pm. And then tomorrow we'll have our

1812
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: statistical column that we have every week, noteworthy numbers where

1813
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: we're going to dive in deep where the Bills are

1814
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,839
Speaker 1: sitting here at the quarter pole, where they are excelling,

1815
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of areas where they are top

1816
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 1: three in the league right now, several areas, and not

1817
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 1: the conventional numbers that you're used to. We kind of

1818
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 1: dig a little bit deeper to find some interesting figures

1819
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: where the Bills are really excelling here after four games play.

1820
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: Look forward to that on Buffalo Bills dot com. Thank you, Chris.

1821
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: We gotta let you go. Thank Chris Brown. Bills Inside

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01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 1: Yeah Yeah, One Bill's Life, presented by Kalada Health from

1823
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 1: the Seneca Studio. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Fourth and

1824
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: goal from the one. Josh Ammon on the keeper, the

1825
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: ball popped out of his hands, bounces back to Gore,

1826
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 1: but they ruled a touchdown. They ruled a touchdown. Josh

1827
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 1: Allen broke the plane and then the ball was knocked out.

1828
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 1: Touchdown Buffalo. The Bills hit the end zone. The Patriots

1829
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 1: are human. Yeah, the Bills found the end zone. Finally,

1830
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 1: first touchdown, the first offensive touchdown the Patriots have given

1831
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: up this year, and it came from the Hunt real

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Speaker 1: a score on all of your real estate needs. We're

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01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,600
Speaker 1: back for a few more minutes here. Evan Washburn was

1835
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: on the sidelines yesterday for the CBS broadcast. He'll be

1836
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 1: joining us coming up after the top of the hour,

1837
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 1: John Murphy with Steve Tasker Man. There's just so much

1838
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 1: meat on this bone. See but I said it a

1839
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: couple of times, and I think we've we've talked about

1840
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,600
Speaker 1: some of the points that we've also I think and

1841
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 1: we spend a little time out here gloss over the

1842
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 1: fact that just how good the Buffalo defense was yesterday,

1843
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: and Chris talked about some of the hidden stats that

1844
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,879
Speaker 1: are in there. But holy Cole, you get an interception

1845
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: down on the goal line and take points off the board.

1846
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 1: After that was a ninety three yard drive and you

1847
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 1: pick it off in the end zone. They get nothing

1848
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: to hit the ball for like eight minutes. They went

1849
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 1: ninety three yards and they got zero out of it.

1850
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 1: That was huge. What a big play by the Bills

1851
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: by Mica High. And you know how rare is it that,

1852
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 1: you know, you see Tom Brady throw a red zone interceptions? Yeah,

1853
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: And we were watching this. I was watching this play

1854
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 1: on film with Eric Wood. There's no place to throw

1855
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 1: the football. He tried to fit it in over the top,

1856
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: and Micah Hide is at the pylon going towards the

1857
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: pylon with a receiver. He comes right off that receiver

1858
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 1: drops right back into the spot where Brady was trying

1859
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 1: to hit Edelman in the back of the end zone.

1860
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 1: Just stepped in and took it and it was, you know,

1861
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 1: he just stepped right out of the right, out of nowhere,

1862
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 1: really in Tom Brady's vision and picked that off. It

1863
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 1: was and everybody was covered. Brady was gonna have to

1864
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: just tuck it and throw it away or do something

1865
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 1: with it. He was trying to scramble, which he's not

1866
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 1: very good at obviously, but he's you know, they put

1867
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: together a nice drive. It really looked like the Patriots

1868
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 1: had really found something and they just snapped him off

1869
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 1: and they got to turn over their own. Patriots had

1870
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: not run the ball well all year, and they did

1871
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 1: not yesterday. They had twenty three rushing attempts there trying

1872
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 1: to get the ball to Sony Michelle. He wound up

1873
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 1: with seventeen that carries for sixty three yards and they

1874
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 1: had seventy four total yards on the ground. New Winglan

1875
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 1: did and a lot of it, I thought because of

1876
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 1: the playoff Tremine Edmonds buffal those second yearner, who I

1877
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 1: thought was outstanding. Eleven tackles, two of them tackles for losses.

1878
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: He was in on one pass defense. I thought Edmonds

1879
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 1: was really one of the many solid players on the

1880
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo off or defense. Yesterday. Yeah, they played really well

1881
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 1: in the run game. Now he came out, the Patriots

1882
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 1: came out and they did put that one drive together.

1883
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: Where they where. They moved the football pretty effectively and

1884
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 1: did some of that on the ground as well. But

1885
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: for the most part you're write Termaine Edmonds was he

1886
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:28,759
Speaker 1: was on the Patriots side of the line of scrimmage

1887
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 1: a lot, making tackles, filling the run gaps, and you know,

1888
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 1: you forget too that the thing about coming into this game,

1889
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 1: we knew that the offensive line of the Patriots was

1890
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent. You know, Marshall Newhouse was playing

1891
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 1: a left tackle for them. Their center for the season

1892
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: had has out with an illness, so they had some

1893
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: guys that were, you know, suspect and not as experienced

1894
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 1: as the guys they thought they were gonna have when

1895
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 1: the season began, and I think it showed. The Bills

1896
01:31:58,000 --> 01:31:59,839
Speaker 1: made him pay for they could not run the football

1897
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: the all could not the Patriots, and or at least

1898
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 1: not effectively enough. And they forced the Patriots into some

1899
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: spots where you know, they tried to make some plays.

1900
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: It was just too tough. Yeah, it was just too

1901
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 1: tough for him. And Oliver had a solid game, I

1902
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: thought also, you know, and so did Star Lotulele. He

1903
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: had a good He had a solid game down inside

1904
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 1: as well. So yeah, you can't say enough about how

1905
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 1: the defense played. Uh, in a lot of ways, they

1906
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 1: were the best defense on the on the field, they uh,

1907
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 1: they were more successful against what I would consider a

1908
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 1: better offense than the Bills offense, certainly certainly a more

1909
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 1: proven quarterback. I mean, you got the goat over there

1910
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 1: in Tom Brady, and they he was struggling. He had

1911
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 1: less than fifty percent completions, forty five quarterback rating. I mean,

1912
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 1: it's in the top five all time of his worst

1913
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 1: performance as ever. So credit the Bills defense. Sorry, missed

1914
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 1: its a missed opportunity. And that's what I that's that's

1915
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 1: my you know or Twitter poll. The biggest takeaway from

1916
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 1: this loss of the Patriots, I really feel like as

1917
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 1: a missed opportunity, really missed opportunity. All Right, we'll get

1918
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 1: back to that your takeaways. We'll take more phone calls

1919
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 1: in the third and final hour of the show. We're

1920
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 1: gonna start the next hour of the show with Evan Washburn.

1921
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 1: He was on the sidelines for yesterday's game for the

1922
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 1: NFL on CBS. That's coming up next. Come on back.

1923
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalaida Health. We're coming here

1924
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,560
Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio in Archerd Park and this is

1925
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radios Radio Network stories game that day comes

1926
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:34,759
Speaker 1: from one Bill Drive to Bills are here today, workday.

1927
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 1: Today they have meetings obviously film review and a little

1928
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 1: bit of a light workout. First time the Bills have

1929
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 1: come to work on a Monday this regular season. After

1930
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 1: a loss. The loss yesterday to the New England Patriot

1931
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 1: sixteen to ten, johns Allen in concussion protocol after the

1932
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 1: helmet the helmet hid by Patriot safety Jonathan Jones had

1933
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 1: knocked him out. Jones got a penalty for unnecessary roughness,

1934
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 1: which is subject to ejection, but there was no ejection yesterday.

1935
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 1: The NFL Senior Vice president of Officiating El Riverrun said

1936
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,879
Speaker 1: the hit did not meet the criteria fitting for an ejection.

1937
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 1: Tom Brady held to one hundred and fifty yards and

1938
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:08,719
Speaker 1: was picked once as first of the season, a passer

1939
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,719
Speaker 1: rating of forty five point nine thanks to the Buffalo defense.

1940
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: In total, the Bills forced New England's offense three and

1941
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 1: out on seven of their twelve possessions before the final

1942
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:19,759
Speaker 1: kneel downs. In the end, the Bills held the league's

1943
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 1: second i scoring offense to sixteen points, two hundred and

1944
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 1: twenty four yards and they lost sixteen to ten to

1945
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Bontes Perfect of the Raiders is out for

1946
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:29,639
Speaker 1: the rest of the year, suspended by the league. Suspended

1947
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 1: for his helmet the helmet hit on Colts ten and

1948
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: Jack Doyle yesterday. Berfect was ejected from the Raiders win

1949
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 1: over the Colts for lowering the helmet to make contact

1950
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 1: on the hit early in the second quarter. NFL Nework

1951
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 1: reports that Perfect will appeal the suspension. Bengals Pro Bowl

1952
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver AJ Green will not play tonight against the Steelers.

1953
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 1: Could be out for a while, continuing to recover from

1954
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 1: his preseason ankle surgery. He had a protective boot that

1955
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 1: he wore until a couple of weeks ago. He has

1956
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 1: been running and doing workouts, but he's not available tonight.

1957
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 1: May not be available for a while. Bengals three at Pitts.

1958
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: We're going three and Monday Night Football tonight. The Steelers

1959
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,560
Speaker 1: have won the last seven times they have played Cincinnati

1960
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Savers. Getting set to open the regular season.

1961
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,719
Speaker 1: They wrapped up their training camp yesterday with the morning practice.

1962
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 1: They're on the ice be on the yestermorrow for practice

1963
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 1: and then opened the season Thursday in Pittsburgh is seven

1964
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,600
Speaker 1: o'clock face up against the Penguins. The home opener is

1965
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:21,719
Speaker 1: scheduled for this Saturday against New Jersey at Keybank Center.

1966
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 1: And that came also at seven o'clock face off on Saturday.

1967
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 1: And that's the update from One Bill's Drive. Welcome to

1968
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,640
Speaker 1: the show. Welcome to our number three what's a head? Nothing? Well,

1969
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 1: are you laughing? Thanks for welcoming to the show. Yes, yes,

1970
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 1: you were talking to me right, I was talking to

1971
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 1: you and everybody. Steve Task, John Murphy here, We've got

1972
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 1: a special guest down the line. He was on the

1973
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 1: sideline yesterday. His job NFL on CBS sideline reporter and

1974
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 1: he had the Bills and the Patriots yesterday, studio host

1975
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,560
Speaker 1: at CBS Sports Network. He's been with the networks in

1976
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. Really happy to have Evan Washburn on the

1977
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 1: line with us. Hello, Evan, John Murphy and Steve Task,

1978
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 1: you are here in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us. Hey,

1979
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:58,560
Speaker 1: fella's always good to be with you. Evan. Let's what

1980
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 1: about the atmosphere in Orchard Park? Yes, said, two really

1981
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 1: good teams undefeated going in and you know, both with

1982
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: two really good defenses, it really turned out to be

1983
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 1: an exciting game to the atmosphere match it in your estimation, absolutely,

1984
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 1: And I had a healthy comparison or context in recent

1985
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 1: weeks being an Arrowhead for the Baltimore kans City game

1986
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 1: in week three, and look, Arrowhead is special. But something

1987
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 1: about yesterday it was up, you know, maybe a couple

1988
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 1: of notches even to what Kansas City brought in week three.

1989
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of it, to your point, Steve,

1990
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 1: had to do with the build up and the fact

1991
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 1: that Buffalo is coming into that game three and OZ

1992
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 1: and finally feeling like they're in a legitimate spot to

1993
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,640
Speaker 1: be able to maybe knock down New England. And it

1994
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:46,559
Speaker 1: was like a boxing match, man. I mean the way

1995
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 1: those two defenses played and the offenses on both sides

1996
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 1: were pretty inept. It felt like whoever's gonna be standing

1997
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 1: last might win it. And obviously New England, based off

1998
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 1: of a couple of key factors special teams being one

1999
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 1: of them, was able to sneak away with it. Yeah. Well,

2000
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 1: I really like that comparison, Evan, And you know, you

2001
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:06,640
Speaker 1: know what I like also is the fact that you

2002
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 1: can have a game like that which was totally defensive oriented,

2003
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 1: and most people feel pretty good about watching that game.

2004
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 1: I thought it was a classic, great NFL game, and

2005
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 1: you didn't have to see forty points for anybody, you

2006
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:20,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, and I think for those

2007
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,080
Speaker 1: of us. And that's what's so great about that Bill's

2008
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:24,760
Speaker 1: fan base, and I mean you could say this about

2009
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:28,640
Speaker 1: New England's as well, as they appreciate quality football and

2010
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 1: when you can have a defense like what Buffalo was

2011
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 1: able to do against arguably the best quarterback to ever

2012
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 1: do it, I mean, he looked as frustrated guys as

2013
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 1: I'd seen Tom since. Maybe I was trying to think

2014
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 1: back to that twenty fifteen AFC Championship game where they

2015
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 1: lose in Denver, he gets hit thirteen times, Denver goes

2016
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 1: on to Super Bowl fifty they went in. That's really

2017
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 1: the last time I've seen Tom that sort of out

2018
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 1: of sorts in the pocket, floating balls, seeing guys come

2019
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 1: in and just having no real answer. And again, if

2020
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:03,640
Speaker 1: you're a football fan, you can appreciate the rarity of

2021
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 1: what Buffalo was able to do. What's your big takeaway

2022
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 1: from this game for the Patriots and for the Bills.

2023
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 1: For the Patriots, it's that the running game. I think

2024
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 1: they wouldn't use the word concern Steve as you know

2025
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:19,640
Speaker 1: that they're not as worried about balance necessarily. Bills not

2026
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 1: a believer that you have to have both in a game,

2027
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 1: but they're going to need to be able to go

2028
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:27,800
Speaker 1: to the running game in times like yesterday where they

2029
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 1: just can't find any success through the air based off

2030
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 1: of what a secondary's doing. And the running game was

2031
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 1: such a pivotal part of their run to a Super

2032
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: Bowl last year, and there's a lot of factors as

2033
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 1: to why it's not been successful. Most of it has

2034
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:43,599
Speaker 1: to do with the departure of guys like Trent Brown,

2035
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski and then injuries now across the line into

2036
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 1: James Devlin. But for a group that doesn't like excuses,

2037
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 1: it's something they're going to have to figure out a

2038
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 1: way to fix. And for Buffalo as much as I'm

2039
01:38:57,439 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 1: sure we will, And you guys talk about Josh Allen

2040
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:04,720
Speaker 1: development now his health obviously, but that that defense is special, man.

2041
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought they outplayed New England's defense, and

2042
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: New England's off to a historic start on that side,

2043
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:12,600
Speaker 1: Evan Washburn on the line with us. He had the

2044
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 1: sideline view for the NFL on CBS yesterday, the Bills

2045
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:17,719
Speaker 1: and the Patriots. It was a rough game for Josh Allen.

2046
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 1: Let's put the health aside for a second or Evan,

2047
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 1: but um, it was difficult to watch him struggle like

2048
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: he did and clearly, even you know, upon watching the

2049
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 1: video again today, I thought he just did not seem

2050
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 1: comfortable with what he was seeing from New England's defense.

2051
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: Did you get that sense down on the sideline? Absolutely?

2052
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 1: And look, New England will do that to experience quarterbacks

2053
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:39,720
Speaker 1: e Ben Roethlisberger in Week one. But I think what

2054
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:45,720
Speaker 1: to me was surprising was that all of the conversation

2055
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,759
Speaker 1: leading up to the game that we had with Josh,

2056
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 1: with Sean, Brian day ball with Dan was about just

2057
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 1: taking what's there and after that second and third hitch,

2058
01:39:57,560 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 1: if you don't have it, get rid of it or

2059
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:02,600
Speaker 1: or make the smart play. And it just felt like

2060
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 1: all that was thrown out the window early in that game,

2061
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 1: and even in opportunities where he could set his feet,

2062
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 1: his footwork seemed completely off balance. And I think that

2063
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 1: whatever happened in that second quarter that allowed them to

2064
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 1: settle down and find subsess And I think it was

2065
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 1: really just Frank Gore running the ball so well that

2066
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 1: seemed to help calm things. But Josh went into that game,

2067
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:28,000
Speaker 1: it would appear, wanting to sort of prove he could

2068
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 1: go toe to toe with New England, and it's just

2069
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 1: it's not the right approach. Yeah, we want to I

2070
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 1: want to move away from the Bills, and I don't

2071
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: know if we want to do it this quick. I

2072
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:37,800
Speaker 1: was gonna move over to the breads. You got something

2073
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 1: else I do if I may, Yeah, go ahead. The

2074
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 1: CBS cameras did a great job, Evan of catching a

2075
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:47,679
Speaker 1: sideline discussion, pretty heated discussion between Brian Dabo and Josh

2076
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,560
Speaker 1: Allen after one of those interceptions. You're on the sidelines.

2077
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 1: You probably noticed that, and I think it's kind of healthy.

2078
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 1: In fact, I love the fact that it was followed

2079
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 1: up by Sean McDermott sitting down next to Josh to

2080
01:40:58,040 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 1: sort of counsel them. Also, what do you make of

2081
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: all that? Yeah? I thought I thought we covered that

2082
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 1: nicely in the broadcast, because you're right, we caught the

2083
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:07,560
Speaker 1: heated exchange if you want to call it that or

2084
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 1: just strong words from his coach, Brian day Ball about

2085
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 1: making better decisions with the football, and then Sean McDermott

2086
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 1: followed a few minutes later and offered some words and

2087
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 1: you could just see that Josh was nodding his head

2088
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 1: an acknowledgement of the fact that he needed to be better.

2089
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 1: And it was one of those moments I gave a

2090
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 1: report about exactly that, in terms of Sean making the

2091
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 1: point to sit there next to Josh. And I don't

2092
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 1: need to remind you guys of this, but he is

2093
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 1: a young kid that is clearly passionate and wanting to

2094
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 1: prove that he is a legitimate starting quarterback that can

2095
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 1: play at a really high level. And I think his

2096
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,639
Speaker 1: physical gifts at times getting the way of maybe making

2097
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 1: the right decision. And it's just going to be a

2098
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 1: constant reminder from that coaching staff. But I mean, Steve

2099
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: seen it plenty. He may have been on the sidelines

2100
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Speaker 1: for some of it. But Josh McDaniels, Bill O'Brien, they

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Speaker 1: get some heated back and forth with a guy named

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Speaker 1: Tom Rady. So this isn't something just because you're a

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Speaker 1: pro or you're a high pick or you're a highly

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Speaker 1: paid QB that you can't get yelled at. What's your

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Speaker 1: take on the hit on Josh Allen to put him

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Speaker 1: out of the game. I don't know. I've been asked

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Speaker 1: a lot about this today. I've done a few radio

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Speaker 1: and TV hits and it's definitely vicious and it's it's

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Speaker 1: worth being flagged it. Upon replay, it does look like

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Speaker 1: Josh is a bit elevated, so it's he hasn't completely

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Speaker 1: surrendered himself. And Jonathan Jones, I'm sure he's thinking, I've

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Speaker 1: got to get this guy down, but in terms of

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Speaker 1: an injection, to me, it didn't have that severity to

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Speaker 1: it in the moment, and obviously it's it's it's really

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Speaker 1: scary to see the way that Josh hits the hits

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Speaker 1: the turf, and watching the replays too, actually, behind the

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Speaker 1: unaffiliated neurotrauma consultantcy it looked like, really where the concerning

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Speaker 1: aspect was that his head bounces off the turf and

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Speaker 1: we know what that can do as well. So it's

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Speaker 1: definitely a play that that the NFL is trying to

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Speaker 1: get rid of and I can completely understand why, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't get a sense of real maliciousness

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Speaker 1: in the in the eyes of Jonathan Jones. Um, let

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Speaker 1: me just say this, even if you want to get

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Speaker 1: rid of it, then throw the guy out of the game.

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Speaker 1: You want to make a point about hit hits, then

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Speaker 1: make your point, you know what I mean. I think

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Speaker 1: that I think people are sort of cutting the two

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Speaker 1: fine here with that hit. Well, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: the officials in the moment. And look, I feel like

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Speaker 1: we're spending so much time talking about officiating. It's it's

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Speaker 1: the speed of game aspect is going to be part

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Speaker 1: of it. And um, I guess yes, but the luxury

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Speaker 1: of replay that they could have made that play or

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Speaker 1: that decision um on the field, and and and maybe

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Speaker 1: this will continue to make that more of a commonality.

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Speaker 1: But I still think that everybody's adjusting the idea that

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Speaker 1: you can just boot a guy um for a hit,

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Speaker 1: even though we saw it happen with Montez yesterday and

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Speaker 1: that's leed do even more. Yeah, he's vantz Berfeck been

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Speaker 1: suspended for the remainder of the season, and I kind

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Speaker 1: of agree with that given his history. That was a

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Speaker 1: that was a bad hit that he took on the

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Speaker 1: tight end from the Indianapolis Colts as well. I want

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Speaker 1: to let's move around a little bit around the national

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01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 1: football he let's talk a little bit about the Browns offense.

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Speaker 1: They came to life. They've been struggling, and there's there's

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Speaker 1: been a little bit of a roller coaster early on

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Speaker 1: for Baker Mayfield and Freddie Kitchens and those guys over there.

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Speaker 1: They got a lot of weapons, but they finally got

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Speaker 1: out of their rut coming out and scoring forty points

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Speaker 1: against the Ravens. Yeah. I'm actually just making my way

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Speaker 1: through that game right now. I have the Ravens in

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh that's coming Sunday, And the irony of it is

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01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 1: that for all the attention that's been placed for a

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01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 1: good reason on Baker Mayfield and hissability and throw the

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Speaker 1: ball Jarvis Landry O'Dell, the way they found success in

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Speaker 1: this game and might be the formula moving forward is

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01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:55,400
Speaker 1: just given it to Nick Chubb and becoming more of

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01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 1: a run run first team and allow that to open

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Speaker 1: up the passing game via playof action. Because the first

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Speaker 1: few games that disjointed play calling and offense I think

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01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 1: has been a product of trying to satisfy whether it

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Speaker 1: be Jarvis, Odell Baker make these big plays. You have

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Speaker 1: these players, so I'm sure when you're drawing it up

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Speaker 1: on the whiteboard, you think, well, we got to attack, attack, attack,

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Speaker 1: and maybe the more prudent approach for the Browns will be, Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's plot and plot and plot and then boom hit

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Speaker 1: him here. Because Odell was a pretty much non factor

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Speaker 1: in this Ravens game. Jarvis was great at what Jarvis does,

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Speaker 1: which is really an extension of the run game when

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01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 1: you think about short quick screen passes, screens over the past,

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01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 1: catches over the middle of catching run plays, and then

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Speaker 1: he goes down with concussion. But I think this is

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Speaker 1: more to what Freddy Kitchens may be looking at in

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Speaker 1: terms of an offensive system moving forward. I have a

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Speaker 1: question for you about tonight's game. If having the Steelers

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Speaker 1: own three, which is certainly uncustomary territory for them, they're

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Speaker 1: better than that, right, But just how good they are

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Speaker 1: I think is still in question. I mean, I I

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Speaker 1: don't know if we can say that if you've got

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Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph under center and an offense that's still trying

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Speaker 1: to find an identity with the loss of Antonio Brown

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Speaker 1: and Juju Smith Schuster's thrust into a different role and

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Speaker 1: the tight end position and not as consistent as they

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Speaker 1: would like it. And James Connor trying to match what

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Speaker 1: he did last year but now having a lot more

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Speaker 1: of the responsibility thrown on his shoulders. I mean, I

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01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 1: think defensively, the idea and the thought was that they

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Speaker 1: were going to be better. The Devin Bush draft picks

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Speaker 1: seem to be a no brainer. But as we've said,

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Speaker 1: and we'll say and continue to say, when you don't

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Speaker 1: have trust in your quarterback or can't count on consistency

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01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 1: in that position, then everything else can be kind of

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Speaker 1: rendered meaningless. Hey, Ivan, thanks for this. Good to see

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Speaker 1: you here yesterday. We hope we see you down the road.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being on the show with us today. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Yeah, it was a blast yesterday and always

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Speaker 1: to catch up with the guys. Thanks thanks having having

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Speaker 1: watched for an NFL on CBS sidelade reporter. He was

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines here Yesterday's been with CBS since twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: He had a sideline view of the Bills lost to

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots yesterday. We're our cameras in the

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Speaker 1: locker room yesterday after the loss of the Patriots, Time

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Speaker 1: down for Around the Locker Room, brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Connect Life Blood and organ Donor Network. Cole Beasley on

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Speaker 1: the frustration with another loss to the Patriots. You know,

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Speaker 1: anytime you have that many mistakes in a game, UM,

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Speaker 1: you fill that way. But UM, you know, I love

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Speaker 1: the team we have. I love the guys in this room. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, even even though we played so poorly on offense. Um,

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01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 1: there's kind of a game where you realize the type

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Speaker 1: of guys you have that keep fighting through that stuff

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Speaker 1: and keep working and um, you know, I'll go to

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Speaker 1: war with this team any day. Head coach Sean McDermott

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01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:53,920
Speaker 1: on the loss to New England. Well, we had opportunities,

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Speaker 1: you know, we had opportunities that though our defense played outstanding. Um,

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01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:01,280
Speaker 1: you know, they block a punt, they turn them all over. UM,

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01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 1: chance to win the game multiple times there and UM,

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01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 1: so we've got to learn from this and um and

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Speaker 1: continue to grow as a football team. Wide. Receivers A

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01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:14,719
Speaker 1: Jones found the bills cost for the mistakes offensively against

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01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:18,400
Speaker 1: New England. Whether it's the Patriots or anybody else, we

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01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 1: want to win that game hurts for the guys that

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01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, they've worked their tails off to be in

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01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 1: this position. But it is just one game, So I

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01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:34,680
Speaker 1: mean and go back watch it, make the mistakes and

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01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 1: they move on. They can't they can't harp on it

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01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:39,639
Speaker 1: too much. Pat de Marco on the first quarter punk

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Speaker 1: block that went for a New England touchdown. Yeah, they had,

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01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:44,639
Speaker 1: they had nine guys in the box, fan the guys

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Speaker 1: to block, so we try to go big and and

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01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:49,200
Speaker 1: everybody take two and it was at a short edge.

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01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 1: Guys over get there, so it's unfortune. Hopefully we got

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01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,719
Speaker 1: to clean up and we want the next week. Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermot on the hit that put Josh Allen out of

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Speaker 1: the game. There's no there's no room in football for that. Um,

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01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:02,640
Speaker 1: it's a shame to see a player like Josh or

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01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 1: any player for that matter, go down with a hit

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Speaker 1: like that. Micah Hyde Jonathan Jones hit that knocked Josh

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Speaker 1: Shammin out of action. So that's the first thing that

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01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:12,640
Speaker 1: came out of the mouth from the sideline. If one

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Speaker 1: of us did that to twelve, we wouldn't have been

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01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:18,720
Speaker 1: in the game anymore. There's no way. There's no way

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01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 1: we would have continue to play in that game. Um,

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Speaker 1: even with the holding penalty that we had offset penal. No,

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01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:26,600
Speaker 1: there's no way, you know, and and stuff like that.

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01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 1: You know, we gotta obviously that's our quarterback. Were rather

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Speaker 1: die with him to see that happen. You know, he

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Speaker 1: you know, Josh didn't slide. But then the day you can't.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's a running back, you can't

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01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:37,720
Speaker 1: head a head, um. And so that's why I want

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Speaker 1: the confirmation from you that it was it was head

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Speaker 1: to head because I didn't I didn't get a good

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Speaker 1: look at it. But like I said, if that was,

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Speaker 1: if that was our quarterback, there's no way that that

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01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 1: would have could you that you could continue playing running back?

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01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 1: Frank Gore, I'm reaching the fifteen thousand career rushing yards Mark,

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Speaker 1: bless you, bless Oh. We're loving the game, and you

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Speaker 1: know I want to say thanks to all the guys

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Speaker 1: and helped them get it. No, I'm all as the

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Speaker 1: seasons coaches, you know. Now, you know, I just want

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Speaker 1: to keep time at all and you know, might I

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Speaker 1: say tomorrow, No, we need to catch a team fill

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Speaker 1: kennepunder standing Stall Wames Dad Lames Day. We style bat pratice,

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Speaker 1: the world was no privates and trying to getting one.

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Speaker 1: In all that Sunday there you go around the locker room,

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Speaker 1: brought here by Connect, Life Blood and Oregon Donor Network.

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Speaker 1: Big Game for Frank or seventeen carries one hundred and

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Speaker 1: nine yards six point four yards per carry and fifteen thousand.

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Speaker 1: Only four guys have gone for fifteen thousand or more.

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Speaker 1: Emmett Smith, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders. That's outstanding company. And

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Speaker 1: now Frank Core that's really good company to be in.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost fame territory. For it's almost like

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Speaker 1: one of those things where all those guys go by

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Speaker 1: their first name, Emmett, Barry, By, Walter. Yeah. And now, Frank,

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Speaker 1: do you remember the conversation we had a year ago

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Speaker 1: when the Bills played the Dolphins, And I was thinking

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01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:56,479
Speaker 1: about it today watching the replay the game, and the

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01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 1: conversation was Frank Gore Hall of Famer, and you know,

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01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 1: he had obviously a fewer yards, not a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of fewer last year. And I was debating that, say,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, and now I haven't seen him in action,

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Speaker 1: and yes, he's thirty six. That shouldn't matter in the

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01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame consideration. But he's done this for so

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01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 1: long and done it at such a high level for

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01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 1: so long, and now the numbers are there. If you're

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Speaker 1: the fourth highest rushing running back in NFL history, of

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01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 1: course you're a Hall of Famer, right he is? I agree. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: here's the I read an article on this. This isn't

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01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:26,720
Speaker 1: This isn't an original thought, but I'll put it out

2292
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 1: there because somebody has this mindset that they call him

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01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 1: an aggregator because he played so long. Of course he's

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01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 1: going to have so many yards. That was one of

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01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 1: the things that worked against Charlie Joyner. He played for

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01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:39,560
Speaker 1: seventeen years at wide receiver. Of course he's gonna have

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01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:41,360
Speaker 1: a lot of catches. Of course you're gonna have a Well,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you something. The one thing in an

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01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:47,240
Speaker 1: NFL locker room that Garners more respect than anything is longevity.

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01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 1: It The players and the guys who played this game

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01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:54,840
Speaker 1: and coaches who coached it understand how difficult it is

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Speaker 1: to play for a long time in a league that

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01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 1: churns people up and choose them up and spits them

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01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 1: out on a regular basis. To live through that and

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01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:06,520
Speaker 1: to beat the odds mostly by hard work and commitment

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01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 1: and all the things that go into staying healthy and

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01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 1: staying available on the field and effective. It's the bottom

2308
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:16,640
Speaker 1: line that is a Hall of Fame characteristic. Yeah, and

2309
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,760
Speaker 1: I think Frank has obviously, at thirty six years old,

2310
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 1: it's exhibited something that I don't think any other running

2311
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 1: back in history the League's exhibited that he has an

2312
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 1: inspiration of value to this team too. Don't you think

2313
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 1: his teammates look at him and say, Wow, that's Frank Gore.

2314
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,760
Speaker 1: Look at him, right? I think he does. I don't

2315
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:34,639
Speaker 1: want to talk out of Turner. I think that's why

2316
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 1: he's here and Lashan McCoy's not. Yeah, oh yeah, I

2317
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 1: think Lashan McCoy can still play. But I think they

2318
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,559
Speaker 1: found out that Devin Singletary can play, and they found

2319
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 1: out that Frank Gore really gives him something. And if

2320
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 1: there's going to be an odd man out, they want

2321
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 1: those two. Yeah, you know. And all that being said,

2322
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 1: and I'd love Gore's game yesterday. Really be nice to

2323
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:56,600
Speaker 1: get Devin's Singletary back soon. Don't you agree? He is

2324
01:52:56,640 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 1: an explosive dimension that this that is he is a

2325
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:04,439
Speaker 1: difference maker even at this year. I don't know, we

2326
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 1: haven't seen him that much, right, We've seen him in

2327
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 1: two games parts of two games. But yeah, you need,

2328
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 1: you need to go with him, and this offense needs

2329
01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 1: a little shot in the arm, needs a little something else,

2330
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:18,559
Speaker 1: you know, you yeah, you need, you need a little

2331
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 1: shot in the arm. And I think Devin Singletary is

2332
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 1: part of what can help you. We had some callers

2333
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:24,680
Speaker 1: in here that think Dawson Knox needs a few opportunities.

2334
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:26,120
Speaker 1: I would kind of chime in with that as well.

2335
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:29,760
Speaker 1: And we've also, you know, the obligatory criticism that Zay

2336
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: Jones hasn't done enough. So you know, he got all

2337
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 1: this stuff that you'd kind of like to tweak with

2338
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 1: his offense and getting those guys in there at getting

2339
01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:39,600
Speaker 1: Singletary in there and giving Dawson Knox a few more

2340
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:41,560
Speaker 1: targets is a couple of them. Hey, what do you

2341
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:43,720
Speaker 1: think your biggest takeaway from the Bill's loss? Let us

2342
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:45,000
Speaker 1: know what you think. We'll go to the phone. Here's

2343
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 1: Steven Amherst. Are you still there, Steve, yes, sir, Hi,

2344
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 1: thanks for waiting. Last year, we all observed one thing

2345
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:55,599
Speaker 1: we know, Josh got cancust In the preseason. He got

2346
01:53:55,680 --> 01:54:00,280
Speaker 1: concusted in this season. So after the third game, I

2347
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 1: had a really bad feeling. My feeling was that New

2348
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 1: England would play this quarterback different, meaning that they had

2349
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 1: a strategy. They met as a team and the coach said,

2350
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 1: hit him, hit him as hard as you can. If

2351
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:17,719
Speaker 1: it's borderline, keep going hit him. It's not a penalty

2352
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 1: till the ref sorted out. I saw something earlier in

2353
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:23,439
Speaker 1: the game. I thought there was a penalty. Josh dropped

2354
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 1: back and the defensive player put his hand on the

2355
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 1: mask of the quarterback. So I thought we'd get him masking.

2356
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:33,160
Speaker 1: We didn't get that. I thought we'd get a hands

2357
01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 1: to the face. We didn't get that. Then I had

2358
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 1: more of a worse feeling because I says, Okay, now

2359
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:41,760
Speaker 1: I see something going on. There's a pattern here. Maybe

2360
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:47,440
Speaker 1: they're just gonna let the New England players target the quarterback. Yeah, Steve,

2361
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:49,920
Speaker 1: I gotta stop you because I think you're really off target.

2362
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:51,920
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact. And look, do they want

2363
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 1: to hit Josh Allen? You bet? Do they want to

2364
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 1: hit him hard? Yes? They do. Do they want to

2365
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 1: rattle his timing and force him into bad throws? Absolutely?

2366
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 1: Do they want to hurt him and make him suffer

2367
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 1: a concussion. No, even the Evil Empire in New England,

2368
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 1: I don't think plays like that, Steve. That's just mean.

2369
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:11,080
Speaker 1: How many guys on Bill's defense think are gonna would

2370
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 1: love to take a shot at Tom Brady over the

2371
01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 1: course of his twenty year career. Everybody, everybody would love

2372
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:21,560
Speaker 1: to have a shot on him, like Nate Clemens put

2373
01:55:21,640 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 1: on him back in oh eight three or whatever that

2374
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:28,920
Speaker 1: was and knock his helmet fifteen yards away. I mean,

2375
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's got the biggest possible target on himself that

2376
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 1: you can possibly have as a player in the NFL.

2377
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 1: Everybody knows the key to their success as far as

2378
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:42,440
Speaker 1: players go is starts with him. The simple fact of

2379
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:45,200
Speaker 1: the matter is he didn't let it happen. He slides,

2380
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 1: he shuffles, he throws the football away. Even to the

2381
01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 1: tune of going eighteen for thirty nine yesterday, he was

2382
01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 1: sub fifty percent completions. He threw it into the dirt,

2383
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 1: he took intentional groundings, he threw it into the stands,

2384
01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:01,600
Speaker 1: he threw it off the sidelines. He just doesn't let

2385
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 1: that happen. So whatever conspiracy there is that you have,

2386
01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:08,200
Speaker 1: which I don't believe that the Patriots had for Josh Allen.

2387
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:11,400
Speaker 1: It's very easy to remedy. Just throw the football away

2388
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:13,480
Speaker 1: and don't be running around back there. Don't throw it

2389
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 1: off your back foot going backwards. Don't do that stuff.

2390
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 1: Please don't tell me that you're finding fault with Josh

2391
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 1: for taking that hit. Are you really are your faulting

2392
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen for that illegal helmet hit that should have

2393
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:27,320
Speaker 1: been an ejection and will certainly be a fine. Why

2394
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 1: would he why why would he take it and Tom

2395
01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 1: Brady not take it because he's more athletic and him

2396
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:34,440
Speaker 1: make bigger plays with his feet and you get a

2397
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 1: bigger risk. So he deserved the hit. Well, it was

2398
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 1: a penalty, So there's that. You don't find fault with

2399
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 1: the victim here, and Josh Allen was a victim of

2400
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 1: an illegal hit. He could keep it from happening by sliding, yeah,

2401
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:51,200
Speaker 1: or not playing the game. Well there's that too. Yeah.

2402
01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 1: I just I can't. I can't let you say that

2403
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:56,640
Speaker 1: it's not Josh's fault that he took a hit to

2404
01:56:56,720 --> 01:56:58,600
Speaker 1: the head. It's not his fault. Yeah, you're saying it

2405
01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 1: is force. It is, Yeah, of course it is. Yah, yeah, elaborate, Okay,

2406
01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:06,360
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen if he runs down there like you think,

2407
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:09,240
Speaker 1: like there's guys waiting on the bench to get a

2408
01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:11,800
Speaker 1: shot like that on him, And there's guys like that

2409
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:13,520
Speaker 1: in Buffalo who would take a shot like that at

2410
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:16,440
Speaker 1: Tom Brady? Does Josh need to be judicious about one

2411
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 1: to run? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, No, you're saying

2412
01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 1: it's his fault that he took a hit to the head.

2413
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 1: Why is he going head first? He's trying to get yardage.

2414
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 1: He's playing the game. There's three yards, I mean nothing,

2415
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 1: trying to come back and win a game. I can't

2416
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:32,120
Speaker 1: believe you're finding fault with Josh Allen for an illegal

2417
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:34,680
Speaker 1: hit to the helmet. He's not thinking he's gonna get penalot.

2418
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 1: I could take a penalty shot, but he knows he's

2419
01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:40,560
Speaker 1: gonna get whacked six inches lower ten. If the guy

2420
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 1: comes what if he does that guy falls on his knee,

2421
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:46,440
Speaker 1: cracks his knee. That happens accidental, and then it's like,

2422
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:48,560
Speaker 1: oh shoot, yeah, no, it's not a hit to the head,

2423
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:50,480
Speaker 1: which you supposed to be out. I have a hard

2424
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 1: time if the guy hits him low. Yeah, there's his

2425
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:56,400
Speaker 1: ACL Yes, you're okay, not a hit to the head,

2426
01:57:57,000 --> 01:57:59,080
Speaker 1: and he could avoid all of it by sliding or

2427
01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:01,480
Speaker 1: getting three yards. I'm done. I retire. Yeah, you can

2428
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 1: do that too. There's a Bill in Buffalo. Hello Bill,

2429
01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 1: always an option. Hello Bill. I'm sure you're not gonna

2430
01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:09,960
Speaker 1: like my take, and I hope you give me the

2431
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:12,800
Speaker 1: courtesy of at least talking my way through this for

2432
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:15,680
Speaker 1: as long as it doesn't take ten minutes or two minutes.

2433
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:19,480
Speaker 1: But my biggest take away from this game is it

2434
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how good or how bad Josh Allen played

2435
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 1: or how horrible our punter is, because he's horrible. Nobody

2436
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:30,920
Speaker 1: really mentioned that today, um or nothing matters. The only

2437
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:32,880
Speaker 1: don't think that really matters is that the reps. My

2438
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:36,000
Speaker 1: biggest takeaway is the officials in the NFL can and

2439
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 1: do get directly involved in the outcome of games. And

2440
01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 1: let me speak my piece before you tell me what

2441
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 1: an idiot I am and how crazy. Okay, I can

2442
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 1: hold off on. Okay, hurry up, because we're going to

2443
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 1: non teasing. Good go ahead, Bill, we'll pass herry up.

2444
01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm starting with the overrule passing fiorance called obvious passing fiorance.

2445
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:53,920
Speaker 1: How in the hell do the overrule that? What do

2446
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:56,840
Speaker 1: you call it besides cheating? Now next one dead? Can

2447
01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 1: I answer? I'm not cutting you off. I think upon

2448
01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:01,720
Speaker 1: further review, which I did this morning, I think they

2449
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 1: looked at it and said they discussed it and said

2450
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 1: that wasn't really catchable. We're gonna pick up the flag.

2451
01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 1: That's what I think happened. I'm not sure contact was real,

2452
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:10,360
Speaker 1: but the ball was out of play. Go ahead, but

2453
01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:12,840
Speaker 1: go ahead, get face mask. Then that call it didn't call.

2454
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:14,800
Speaker 1: But then the next right they should have called the

2455
01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:17,640
Speaker 1: face mask in the pocket? I agree, go ahead, field goal?

2456
01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:19,360
Speaker 1: Hear me out, we would at the ball and field

2457
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:21,520
Speaker 1: goal territory. That's three points there. We had about a

2458
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:24,760
Speaker 1: ten yard line. Then then the other downs where he

2459
01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:28,040
Speaker 1: had the ball and Josh Allen got face masked when

2460
01:59:28,120 --> 01:59:31,120
Speaker 1: they sacked him and it was blatantly obvious, they didn't

2461
01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:33,600
Speaker 1: call it, and the end up being fourth down, and

2462
01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 1: we've lost out at another at least three points there.

2463
01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:38,560
Speaker 1: That six points, that's what we lost by, By the way,

2464
01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 1: we probably might have scored a touchdown too. Now, how

2465
01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 1: about the challenge from mcdurritt. I mean, come on, Steve,

2466
01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:45,840
Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me. That guy would way out

2467
01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:47,880
Speaker 1: of his weight of getting that guy's way, and he

2468
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 1: tripped our guy up. Even if he didn't trip him,

2469
01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:53,360
Speaker 1: he tripped him by making our guy move. Now the

2470
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 1: cheap shot on Allen, the guy didn't get thrown out

2471
01:59:55,720 --> 01:59:58,880
Speaker 1: of the game, which was ridiculous. Um, yeah, Bill, you're

2472
01:59:58,920 --> 02:00:03,360
Speaker 1: two minutes are up. Don't listen. There was an extra

2473
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:05,960
Speaker 1: point in there which every single game that is of

2474
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:08,480
Speaker 1: the nature we just saw yesterday between the Bills and

2475
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:10,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots, it could be the Steelers and the Ravens,

2476
02:00:10,560 --> 02:00:12,240
Speaker 1: it could be this, it could be the whatever two

2477
02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:14,360
Speaker 1: games where you get into a three point game that

2478
02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:17,760
Speaker 1: it's sub sub twenty points, where it's a defensive struggle.

2479
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:19,640
Speaker 1: It's going to be like that. You can go through

2480
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:24,200
Speaker 1: every single NFL game throughout the hundred year history of

2481
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:27,160
Speaker 1: the sport and do exactly what you did, Bill, and

2482
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:30,360
Speaker 1: go down every call for or against you and say

2483
02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:32,200
Speaker 1: that was the difference, that was the difference, that was

2484
02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 1: the difference that was and you'd all be right, and

2485
02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:37,800
Speaker 1: you'd be right, But that doesn't change the nature of

2486
02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:39,760
Speaker 1: the fact that that's just the nature of the game

2487
02:00:39,800 --> 02:00:42,440
Speaker 1: you play. And if you think they're doing it on purpose,

2488
02:00:42,480 --> 02:00:44,760
Speaker 1: if you think they're cheating, if you think the referees

2489
02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:46,440
Speaker 1: have it in form, if you think some teams get

2490
02:00:46,520 --> 02:00:49,360
Speaker 1: favorable they may get better breaks than other people, is

2491
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:51,600
Speaker 1: because they plan on doing it and they practice doing it,

2492
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:54,120
Speaker 1: or they have a mindset to do it. Whatever. That's

2493
02:00:54,320 --> 02:00:57,560
Speaker 1: that's football. So I get it. That is frustrating to

2494
02:00:57,600 --> 02:01:00,680
Speaker 1: see the refs make these calls or not make these calls,

2495
02:01:01,000 --> 02:01:03,200
Speaker 1: and all you see is the ones that go against

2496
02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:07,800
Speaker 1: your team. I get it, But listen, that's what happens

2497
02:01:07,880 --> 02:01:11,800
Speaker 1: when you play in tight football games. One play one

2498
02:01:11,840 --> 02:01:14,040
Speaker 1: way or the other makes all the difference in the world,

2499
02:01:14,080 --> 02:01:16,280
Speaker 1: whether it happens in the first quarter or the last

2500
02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:18,480
Speaker 1: minute of the game. It's just the simple fact of

2501
02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:21,240
Speaker 1: the matter. So I know it's frustrating. We all feel

2502
02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:23,640
Speaker 1: it at times, but you got to you gotta stand

2503
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:25,680
Speaker 1: up above it and say, listen, we've got a really

2504
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:28,280
Speaker 1: good football team. They had a chance to win that.

2505
02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 1: It was a huge missed opportunity yesterday, and certainly there's

2506
02:01:31,480 --> 02:01:33,680
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons for it. But for me being

2507
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:35,760
Speaker 1: a former guy, and I think I can speak for

2508
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:37,800
Speaker 1: a lot of former players, and maybe some current ones

2509
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:41,480
Speaker 1: put it on their shoulders. Of the players, they're the

2510
02:01:41,560 --> 02:01:43,600
Speaker 1: ones who needed to play better at certain times. They're

2511
02:01:43,640 --> 02:01:45,840
Speaker 1: the ones who missed to play. They're the ones who

2512
02:01:45,880 --> 02:01:47,640
Speaker 1: missed to pass. They're the ones who didn't read the

2513
02:01:47,680 --> 02:01:50,040
Speaker 1: defense right. They're the ones who missed a cut. They're

2514
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Speaker 1: the ones who missed to block. They're the ones who

2515
02:01:51,560 --> 02:01:54,160
Speaker 1: missed to tackle. The players are the ones who won

2516
02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:56,360
Speaker 1: or lost the game. Now, the officials affected it from

2517
02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:58,320
Speaker 1: moment to moment once in a while, and in a

2518
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Speaker 1: game like this, yeah, maybe big here than there, But

2519
02:02:02,160 --> 02:02:04,840
Speaker 1: it's all about the guys on the field. And I

2520
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:06,600
Speaker 1: know people don't want to hear that on a day

2521
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:08,280
Speaker 1: like today, when it's so frustrating to sit here and

2522
02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:10,720
Speaker 1: lose another one to the Patriots. But you gotta know,

2523
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:13,520
Speaker 1: just rise up, say listen, we've got we're a much

2524
02:02:13,600 --> 02:02:16,600
Speaker 1: better football team. We've got much better games ahead of us,

2525
02:02:16,640 --> 02:02:18,600
Speaker 1: and we're gonna play that way from here and forward.

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Speaker 1: We gotta break. We're coming back with more John Murphy

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Speaker 1: Nothing comes close. Welcome back One Bill's Live, John Murphy

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02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:44,120
Speaker 1: and Steve Tasker from our One Buffalo Studio getting a

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02:02:44,160 --> 02:02:45,720
Speaker 1: lot of feedback. And we knew we would right. We

2532
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:50,800
Speaker 1: knew this game was was packed with information and entertainment.

2533
02:02:51,080 --> 02:02:52,560
Speaker 1: A lot of meat on this bone, I I said

2534
02:02:52,600 --> 02:02:54,240
Speaker 1: that before, a lot of brought with emotion, a lot

2535
02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:56,400
Speaker 1: of apples on this tree. Yeah, a lot of pizza

2536
02:02:56,440 --> 02:03:00,280
Speaker 1: in the box on this in this one because of

2537
02:03:00,320 --> 02:03:03,040
Speaker 1: the how close it was. And like I said, I've

2538
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:05,600
Speaker 1: character My biggest takeaway was I characterize the game as

2539
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:07,840
Speaker 1: a missed opportunity. You had those guys on the ropes,

2540
02:03:08,440 --> 02:03:10,880
Speaker 1: and you know you let them off. Yeah, they got away.

2541
02:03:11,080 --> 02:03:14,400
Speaker 1: We're asking folks your biggest takeaway will take more phone calls,

2542
02:03:14,440 --> 02:03:16,360
Speaker 1: but we want to get to the tweet sheet. It

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02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:18,880
Speaker 1: is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

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Speaker 1: movers of the Buffalo Bills. Biggest takeaway from the Bills

2545
02:03:21,680 --> 02:03:23,600
Speaker 1: loss of the Patriots, Steve get us going here all right?

2546
02:03:23,600 --> 02:03:25,360
Speaker 1: From Nikki, She says, my biggest takeaway is that we

2547
02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:27,960
Speaker 1: are officially a playoff contender. We went just went head

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02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:31,160
Speaker 1: to toe with our toe to toe with possibly the

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Speaker 1: best team in the NFL. That said, Alan needs to

2550
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:36,120
Speaker 1: make better decisions. He's improved almost everywhere else, but his

2551
02:03:36,240 --> 02:03:39,320
Speaker 1: turnovers and other mistakes have been hurting us. From Nikki

2552
02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:41,760
Speaker 1: and also we've got one from Andrews says that the

2553
02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:45,960
Speaker 1: defense can dominate the Pats. Alan's downfall was that instead

2554
02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:47,840
Speaker 1: of looking for the short passes and moving the ball

2555
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:49,560
Speaker 1: down the field, he was trying to force the plays

2556
02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:52,440
Speaker 1: that weren't there. Also, he needs to learn if a

2557
02:03:52,520 --> 02:03:55,840
Speaker 1: play is not there, throw it away, don't lose yards.

2558
02:03:55,960 --> 02:03:59,080
Speaker 1: He cost us that field goal with a sack that

2559
02:04:00,680 --> 02:04:02,840
Speaker 1: you know. We've echoed that throughout the game as well,

2560
02:04:02,920 --> 02:04:06,360
Speaker 1: and that's that's been the theme. A tweet from Jr.

2561
02:04:06,440 --> 02:04:09,600
Speaker 1: Who says his biggest takeaway or hers our team is

2562
02:04:09,640 --> 02:04:11,840
Speaker 1: really good. We needed to get a few calls to

2563
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:14,200
Speaker 1: go our way and that game is a Bill's victory

2564
02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:17,040
Speaker 1: interception while Alza was out of bounds, touching them all

2565
02:04:17,120 --> 02:04:20,160
Speaker 1: on the face mask. No call, great game, sad loss.

2566
02:04:20,200 --> 02:04:23,440
Speaker 1: Hope Josh gets healthy quickly, okay, And one more from

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02:04:23,480 --> 02:04:26,800
Speaker 1: Team Many twenty two. I believe we passed in certain

2568
02:04:26,840 --> 02:04:30,040
Speaker 1: situations only because Gore needed a break. One of those

2569
02:04:30,080 --> 02:04:32,440
Speaker 1: I remember was an interception. A second back could have

2570
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:34,120
Speaker 1: come in to keep gashing them in the run game.

2571
02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:37,560
Speaker 1: People have said that I had to People have said

2572
02:04:37,600 --> 02:04:39,120
Speaker 1: they need to give the ball to Frank Gore Moore,

2573
02:04:39,160 --> 02:04:40,840
Speaker 1: and a lot of it is I don't know how

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02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:43,000
Speaker 1: to describe a Steve like postgame analysis and you look

2575
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:44,520
Speaker 1: at the statue and you say, we look at that

2576
02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:46,800
Speaker 1: Frank Gore only got seventeen carries. They needed to run

2577
02:04:46,920 --> 02:04:50,560
Speaker 1: him more, and that kind of criticism critique I find

2578
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:53,880
Speaker 1: invalid oftentimes. But I did look back how many carries

2579
02:04:53,920 --> 02:04:55,720
Speaker 1: it again in what situation? And I do think there's

2580
02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:58,240
Speaker 1: something to be said for they know what his workload

2581
02:04:58,240 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 1: should be, they know what they want to do on offense.

2582
02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:03,280
Speaker 1: You can't necessarily say because he had seventeen carryings in

2583
02:05:03,440 --> 02:05:05,640
Speaker 1: one hundred nine yards, I'm talking about Frank Gore here,

2584
02:05:05,720 --> 02:05:07,960
Speaker 1: that he was going to continue with that and continue

2585
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:10,800
Speaker 1: to get six and a half yards per carry. Right.

2586
02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:16,880
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, how pleasant a surprise is

2587
02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:20,680
Speaker 1: Frank Gore? Yeah, thirty six. I'm like, we went over

2588
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:24,480
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand yards for his career. Yesterday at home against

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02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:26,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots in a game where he gave the Bills

2590
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:30,360
Speaker 1: a chance to win. Uh, just a fantastic effort. It's

2591
02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:33,280
Speaker 1: it's great to see him. He's a real addition to

2592
02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:35,320
Speaker 1: this club. I think he loves the vibe in the

2593
02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:38,920
Speaker 1: locker room. He's here because of the kind of player

2594
02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:41,800
Speaker 1: he is, also for the for the kind of person

2595
02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:43,560
Speaker 1: he is as much as for the player he is.

2596
02:05:44,240 --> 02:05:48,480
Speaker 1: And Uh, you gotta he's gotta be Yeah, he gotta

2597
02:05:48,520 --> 02:05:51,480
Speaker 1: be thrilled for the guy as old as he is,

2598
02:05:51,680 --> 02:05:54,320
Speaker 1: for the position he plays, and to be coming out

2599
02:05:54,400 --> 02:05:56,800
Speaker 1: and doing the things that he just did for the

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02:05:56,840 --> 02:06:00,040
Speaker 1: team yesterday and to go into the elite company that

2601
02:06:00,120 --> 02:06:03,360
Speaker 1: he did in the all time rushing list. Just fantastic

2602
02:06:03,440 --> 02:06:06,200
Speaker 1: addition to the team. And I think I think all

2603
02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:09,360
Speaker 1: of us, I gotta admit, I'm really surprised at how

2604
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what relieved I am that he's on

2605
02:06:11,960 --> 02:06:15,160
Speaker 1: the team. That's kind of a strong statement from where

2606
02:06:15,200 --> 02:06:17,000
Speaker 1: we were about three or four or five months ago.

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02:06:17,120 --> 02:06:19,920
Speaker 1: Sure right, good point. Let's go to a couple of

2608
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:23,960
Speaker 1: phone calls here. Let's go to Sean and Buffalo. Good afternoon, Sean,

2609
02:06:24,040 --> 02:06:28,920
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Thank you. I'm just wanting have European.

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02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:32,560
Speaker 1: Do you think Josh Allen will play this Sunday or

2611
02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:35,480
Speaker 1: you think Berkeley will. If Josh Allen is healthy, I

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02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:39,560
Speaker 1: think he'll play. What's the status? Do you know anything?

2613
02:06:39,640 --> 02:06:41,800
Speaker 1: He's in the concussion protocol? And that is a big

2614
02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:44,720
Speaker 1: sixty four dollars question, Sean. Nobody's gonna know that. We'll

2615
02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:47,480
Speaker 1: probably get an inkling of it on Wednesday when they

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02:06:47,560 --> 02:06:49,400
Speaker 1: come out for practice, and we'll watch the level of

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02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 1: activity he does. But I'll tell you this, if he

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02:06:51,520 --> 02:06:55,080
Speaker 1: comes out on Wednesday and he's standing around in street

2619
02:06:55,120 --> 02:06:58,920
Speaker 1: clothes or you know, in shorts and a T shirt, yeah,

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02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:01,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't look good for him playing on Sunday. Jehan

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02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:04,280
Speaker 1: mcdermo talks to the media at four pm today. I'm

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02:07:04,320 --> 02:07:07,320
Speaker 1: sure that question comes up update on Josh Allen, and

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02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm almost as certain that there won't be much in

2624
02:07:10,840 --> 02:07:13,920
Speaker 1: the concussion concussion protocol. Next question, let's what they have

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Speaker 1: to do. Now, let's go to Tom on the West Side.

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Speaker 1: Hello Tom, you're on the air, afternoon, gentlemen. Kudos the

2627
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Speaker 1: Frank And why is everybody always pick it on Frank

2628
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:25,960
Speaker 1: because even on the commercials they say who invited Frank?

2629
02:07:27,400 --> 02:07:30,520
Speaker 1: But anyway, I'm not gonna get into the roughing, even

2630
02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:34,120
Speaker 1: though I totally agree that it was bad and agree

2631
02:07:34,200 --> 02:07:37,760
Speaker 1: just but I wanted to say I believe in Berkeley

2632
02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:41,120
Speaker 1: and he got he got drawn in late in the game,

2633
02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:45,320
Speaker 1: and he never practiced what the ones all week? But

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02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:47,600
Speaker 1: who are we going to pick up on the waiver

2635
02:07:47,760 --> 02:07:51,960
Speaker 1: wire or free agency to back up Josh? Now, I'll

2636
02:07:52,040 --> 02:07:56,080
Speaker 1: hang up and listen early think Tom on the practice squad.

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02:07:56,120 --> 02:07:58,360
Speaker 1: They had Davis Webb who played a little bit with

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02:07:58,440 --> 02:08:00,960
Speaker 1: the Giants. I think he was on the Jets roster

2639
02:08:01,120 --> 02:08:03,280
Speaker 1: or maybe practice squad a year or so ago. And

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02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:05,600
Speaker 1: again he would be the likely candidate, I would think.

2641
02:08:05,640 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 1: But again a question for John McDermot at four o'clock today. Yeah,

2642
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:12,920
Speaker 1: they'll probably make a move. They're probably have to. But

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02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:16,640
Speaker 1: if Josh isn't ready, I'm with you. I mean, we've

2644
02:08:16,680 --> 02:08:19,400
Speaker 1: seen Matt Barkley win games for this team. Ye did

2645
02:08:19,440 --> 02:08:22,360
Speaker 1: it last year after being in town twelve days, and

2646
02:08:22,600 --> 02:08:25,120
Speaker 1: think out far much further along he is. He looked,

2647
02:08:26,360 --> 02:08:30,040
Speaker 1: He looked confident yesterday. Although the Patriots obviously changed their

2648
02:08:30,120 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 1: game plan the moment he came in to whatever the

2649
02:08:34,280 --> 02:08:37,840
Speaker 1: Bills protection plan was, the Patriots plan was to bring

2650
02:08:38,040 --> 02:08:40,560
Speaker 1: one more guy than they could protect against and force

2651
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:44,240
Speaker 1: him to throw the football right now. He beat him

2652
02:08:44,280 --> 02:08:46,360
Speaker 1: on a fade route right on the first play, came

2653
02:08:46,400 --> 02:08:48,360
Speaker 1: in off the bench, and then they started bringing pressure

2654
02:08:48,400 --> 02:08:50,520
Speaker 1: and then it was an uphill battle. So that's what

2655
02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:53,879
Speaker 1: the Patriots did off the cuff yesterday of seeing Barkley.

2656
02:08:55,080 --> 02:08:58,320
Speaker 1: But I think for Bills fans, I think one of

2657
02:08:58,360 --> 02:09:00,960
Speaker 1: the good things about this wad coming into the year

2658
02:09:01,080 --> 02:09:02,560
Speaker 1: was he felt like he had some good depth at

2659
02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:05,160
Speaker 1: every position and his quarterbacks no different sake. One more

2660
02:09:05,240 --> 02:09:08,080
Speaker 1: call here, Dan and Hamburg. Hello, Dan, welcome to the show. Hi,

2661
02:09:08,280 --> 02:09:11,560
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. If memory serves me, and

2662
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:14,680
Speaker 1: I've been watching football for a long long time, if

2663
02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:18,040
Speaker 1: there was a personal foul and another offsetting penalty such

2664
02:09:18,080 --> 02:09:21,360
Speaker 1: as the holding yesterday or an offside, it's illegal formation

2665
02:09:21,720 --> 02:09:25,280
Speaker 1: that they would pick up the foul and just enforced

2666
02:09:25,360 --> 02:09:29,040
Speaker 1: the personal foul. And if it was a rule, or

2667
02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:31,200
Speaker 1: even if it wasn't, is that something that if it

2668
02:09:31,320 --> 02:09:35,120
Speaker 1: was put into the NFL officials pocket with that you

2669
02:09:35,240 --> 02:09:37,360
Speaker 1: think eliminates some of the head hunting that's going on.

2670
02:09:38,080 --> 02:09:40,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. Can I just say this before we

2671
02:09:40,680 --> 02:09:43,040
Speaker 1: get deep into this. I don't think there's head hunting

2672
02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:45,320
Speaker 1: going on. I think that was an outlier yesterday, which

2673
02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:48,000
Speaker 1: is why it was shocking, because that doesn't happen early

2674
02:09:48,040 --> 02:09:50,120
Speaker 1: anymore there, right, guys don't play like that. Yeah. That

2675
02:09:50,240 --> 02:09:54,600
Speaker 1: what had amounted to yesterday was the guy saw Josh Allen.

2676
02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:57,320
Speaker 1: And I don't want to undersell it either. The guy

2677
02:09:57,400 --> 02:10:00,600
Speaker 1: saw Josh common he had both feet planned it. He

2678
02:10:00,720 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 1: was he thought maybe there's a chance he was. You

2679
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:05,040
Speaker 1: could see as he's coming up, he's kind of going

2680
02:10:05,120 --> 02:10:07,000
Speaker 1: side to side and making sure Josh isn't gonna cut

2681
02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:09,600
Speaker 1: away from him. And then as Josh decides to go down,

2682
02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:12,920
Speaker 1: his teammate jumps on Josh and starts to pull him down,

2683
02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:15,640
Speaker 1: but not too far, and he just turns into the

2684
02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:17,960
Speaker 1: hit and hits helmet to helmet. It was a really

2685
02:10:18,040 --> 02:10:21,600
Speaker 1: solid hit. Head hunting. Yeah, I don't think there's too

2686
02:10:21,720 --> 02:10:25,160
Speaker 1: much of that going around anymore. That's pretty much been

2687
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:31,200
Speaker 1: weaned out of the league. But because of the fact

2688
02:10:31,240 --> 02:10:33,160
Speaker 1: that they don't care if it's called or not. They

2689
02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:35,640
Speaker 1: watch the film and the team who was a victim

2690
02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:37,480
Speaker 1: of it tells the league says, hey, what do you

2691
02:10:37,520 --> 02:10:39,560
Speaker 1: think about this? And the league says, yeah, you're right,

2692
02:10:39,640 --> 02:10:41,120
Speaker 1: and they'll find the guy even if there was no

2693
02:10:41,200 --> 02:10:43,720
Speaker 1: penalty on the field. So they've gotten rid of that

2694
02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:46,160
Speaker 1: as much as they can. They suspended a guy for

2695
02:10:46,240 --> 02:10:50,040
Speaker 1: the rest of the season today because he was headhunting.

2696
02:10:50,840 --> 02:10:54,000
Speaker 1: Vontes Burfick won't see the field in twenty nineteen again,

2697
02:10:54,720 --> 02:10:57,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, they've done away with all of that stuff.

2698
02:10:57,840 --> 02:11:02,040
Speaker 1: And as bad as that hit was for the Bills yesterday,

2699
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:06,720
Speaker 1: you know, I don't that's not head hunting to me.

2700
02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:09,000
Speaker 1: It was an egregious hint and it was a penalty

2701
02:11:11,320 --> 02:11:13,760
Speaker 1: and the guy's gonna get fined for it. But I

2702
02:11:13,840 --> 02:11:16,360
Speaker 1: think in under this circumstance, I gotta say if they

2703
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:18,320
Speaker 1: find him, so I guess I'm I'm I gotta be

2704
02:11:18,400 --> 02:11:20,640
Speaker 1: good with it. You know. I don't like the hit

2705
02:11:20,720 --> 02:11:23,000
Speaker 1: that it happened to my guy, but the league through

2706
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:25,440
Speaker 1: the flag and they're gonna find the guy, so, you know,

2707
02:11:25,680 --> 02:11:27,400
Speaker 1: and you know, everybody says I should have thrown him

2708
02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:32,280
Speaker 1: out right away. I don't know. I don't know. I'm

2709
02:11:32,360 --> 02:11:34,880
Speaker 1: not there. I see your I see the point, but

2710
02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not to the point where that hit

2711
02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:40,840
Speaker 1: on Josh Allen yesterday is ejectable, but it certainly was

2712
02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:43,680
Speaker 1: a It certainly was a penalty. Can we make a

2713
02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:45,440
Speaker 1: deal the rest of the week. We can talk about

2714
02:11:45,480 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 1: that again, but let's not dwell on that. You know

2715
02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:51,520
Speaker 1: what I mean? That hit? That penalty? Uh deal? Yeah,

2716
02:11:51,560 --> 02:11:54,680
Speaker 1: the caller brought a day, Dan, I know, I just

2717
02:11:55,720 --> 02:11:57,640
Speaker 1: it was one play in a really good game. And

2718
02:11:57,840 --> 02:11:59,440
Speaker 1: really it was a great game. I was saying, I

2719
02:11:59,560 --> 02:12:01,680
Speaker 1: was staying aroun talk to people after the game, even

2720
02:12:01,760 --> 02:12:05,760
Speaker 1: at Jim's tailgate some other places. It's a great game. Yeah,

2721
02:12:05,960 --> 02:12:07,520
Speaker 1: it's a great It's hard to say that when you

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Speaker 1: lose so disappointedly Yea, but man, oh man, what has

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Speaker 1: two good football teams? I gotta say. Yep, we're taking

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Speaker 1: a break. We're coming back, Steve to Tasker John Murphy.

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Speaker 1: Seneca Studio. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Okay, what do

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Speaker 1: we learn? I know it? What do we learn from

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Speaker 1: They bring us. What have we learned and they bring

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Speaker 1: us this final segment of the show. Well, what do

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Speaker 1: we learned from today's show? It's good show today. We

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Speaker 1: know that and I can't find them. What will we learned? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Eric Wood joined us first hour of the show. Eric

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Speaker 1: Wood talked about the block put that resolved it in

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Speaker 1: in New England touchdown. You know, listening to what the

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Speaker 1: Patriots said after the game, it was something that identified

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Speaker 1: on film. I said that during the broadcast yesterday. I

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Speaker 1: guarantee the Patriots saw something on film from this punt unit.

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Speaker 1: And as I watched the three pack replay back, there

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Speaker 1: is also the perfect storm a touch low of a snap,

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Speaker 1: not a bad snap, but a touch low. And when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about fractions of a second making a huge

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Speaker 1: difference and snap the punt time. You know, maybe that

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Speaker 1: punt gets blocked either way, but it's a pretty close,

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Speaker 1: you know, pretty close deal. And when he has to

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Speaker 1: bend down and get it up, that does not allow

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Speaker 1: him to pull that quick trigger on the punt. There

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Speaker 1: you go, that's what we learned from today's show. See

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Speaker 1: good show. We look forward to doing again tomorrow. Much

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Speaker 1: more to talk about, right, we know that's a lot

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Speaker 1: of layers on this onion. I told you. Production assistance

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Speaker 1: Kevin Card. Team drove all our producer Jay Harris Sea

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow at noon One Bill's Life from our Seneca studio.

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