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Speaker 1: Michael Verie Show is on the air, AOL announcing that

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Speaker 1: they will be discontinuing their dial up service. We all

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Speaker 1: had a good chuckle in the office. What on earth

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Well, at the end of September it's

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Speaker 1: going away. A number of you emailing you still have

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Speaker 1: your old AOL accounts, which I presume will still be good. Ramon,

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Speaker 1: I must confess I don't understand technology. I don't know

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Speaker 1: you know whether they'll ever turn those off? Do they

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Speaker 1: remember when hotmail came out before Google? You had to

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Speaker 1: have a burner account, so you'd have a Hotmail account. Oh, yes,

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Speaker 1: you'd have a Hotmail account. Roy Marsh, along with his

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Speaker 1: brother Robert, was the founder of Everyone's Internet. I got

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Speaker 1: an email from a bail bondsman that said, where is he?

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Speaker 1: I need to serve him? Some old bill collectors, some

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Speaker 1: ex girlfriends and wives, but one fella hood writes Czar.

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Speaker 1: I know, Hotshot. That's what we called him when we

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Speaker 1: Please tell hotshot that Hood from Forest Hills says, Hello,

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Speaker 1: that's Hood Mowerman, mechanical designer at Okenna's, an advanced ocean

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Speaker 1: that's how he signs his name, so it must be

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Speaker 1: his real name. It is all right, let's go back

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Speaker 1: to Beeper Boutique because we glossed over that. You don't

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Speaker 2: Me. Yeah, you know, I'm old people.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I like to imagine you sitting on a bean

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Speaker 1: and smoking a joint like my buddy Cody Johnston. That's

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Speaker 1: might not be your thing, but that's how what he's

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Speaker 1: probably doing right about now. Tell me about Beeper Boutique.

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Speaker 1: Tell me in the Go Go days, give me some

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Speaker 1: you said twenty five stories. I didn't realize that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, we we were huge in Houston,

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Speaker 1: So walk me through the economics what would that they

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Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, economics of it was, let's see, we probably

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Speaker 2: So we paid let's say twenty thirty dollars for the pager,

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Speaker 2: to get folks to pay. Yeah, it was pretty good

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Speaker 1: Was there a payment plan or was it all up front?

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Speaker 2: Oh? No, you could pay. Payment plan was twelve bucks

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. What year did y'all start that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and people were coming in. It's just crazy to

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Speaker 2: But you know that's it's all. It's all a matter.

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Speaker 1: Of price, all right. So you sell Beeper Boutique and

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Speaker 2: No, no, we started, we started Everyone's Internet. The first

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Speaker 2: don't know if you remember this name Rita Delatti.

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Speaker 1: Rita was one of our in the archives. Yes, Rita

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Speaker 1: tiny blonde girl who was she a job shover? Hold

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Speaker 1: on second, Roy Marsh, founder of Everyone's Internets, Our guest,

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Speaker 1: this is the Michael Barry Show. Come on, are you

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Speaker 1: describing Roy Marsh's career? What what are you doing? White

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Speaker 1: out story of Houston businessman who debauchery rivaled Caligila, rise

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Speaker 2: Way, pretty appropriate.

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Speaker 1: I don't like boring people. That must be why I

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Speaker 1: And so we're in between afterwards. So y'all started in

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Speaker 1: ninety nine? How long before the Everyone's Internet that that

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Speaker 1: we heard everywhere was booming? What was that moment where

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Speaker 2: We called it internet? Okay, And we were crappy to start,

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Speaker 2: but it was it was what what that springboard was

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Speaker 2: You know, starting out with cal Well then, Oh goodness,

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Speaker 2: I can't you know Ruin Ryan, Oh Lance, And they

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Speaker 2: wouldn't let us have Lance and John just Lance, Lancer, Aline,

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Speaker 1: John shafes grudges and and has an elephant's memory the

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Speaker 1: way I do. Uh. That's that's uh, that's did John

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Speaker 2: No, No, they just they just didn't want both of

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Speaker 2: it was the live endorsement component that you know, people remembered.

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Speaker 2: It was you know, the we came very close to

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Speaker 2: doing a deal with Paul Harvey, and we just didn't

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Speaker 1: No, forget where so y'all could handle a client anywhere.

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Speaker 2: No, No, you have to you had to have infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: Uh you know, you had to have local dial up numbers.

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Speaker 2: They weren't gonna or in a hundred number. The eight

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Speaker 1: So you had seven, one, three and another number or

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Speaker 2: Oh No, we had numbers you know wherever, you know,

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Speaker 1: Now, don't. I don't know the business, and I don't

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Speaker 1: remember well enough. Did everybody have the same number or

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Speaker 2: I think we had? Uh? We had. We had a

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Speaker 1: Well, forgive my lack of knowledge on the subject, but

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Speaker 1: What was the product you were selling? And what was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, subscription models everything. I mean, everybody's gone to that.

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Speaker 1: auto pay. Then could you like where you could just

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Speaker 2: I think that we had the ability to. Ah, okay,

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Speaker 2: you know, but here again you know I'm old, and

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Speaker 2: I think it means tough.

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Speaker 1: Oh hold on, hold on, you got it? Did you

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Speaker 1: bleep it? You bleep it? Okay, what do you think

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Speaker 1: everyone's Internet estimate gross revenues? Worry in your best year

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Speaker 1: and roughly what year would that have been?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, everyone's internet. Now we're going to include the

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, then we'll break it out sixty million,

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Speaker 1: Was awesome, and that was awesome. That was what did

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Speaker 1: Everyone's Internet is our guess. It's one for a Girl

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Speaker 1: He was the co founder of Everyone's Internet. Roy, What

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Speaker 2: Oh it's crazy. So when we were doing it, we

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Speaker 2: Well there was other things selling up there too, uh so.

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Speaker 1: You keep up with right down Marshall.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen them in forever. They had they built

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Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, they both sold out. Marshall okay spins about

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Speaker 1: his son married Jimmy's daughter. Yeah, Marshall Williams and Russell

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Speaker 1: Linley are a big part of why I get to

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Speaker 1: do what I do today. Dear friends, wonderful, and obviously

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Speaker 1: the fact that you brought them up five times and

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Speaker 1: that you remember how important they were to your business.

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Speaker 1: I have had businesses tell me that that live endorsement

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Speaker 1: radio worked for them only because at the time they

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Speaker 1: don't exist anymore, but ad results, and that they pushed

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Speaker 1: them to do that. You know, one time I needed

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Speaker 1: to talk to Handy Russell picked up the phone and

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Speaker 1: called him, and Handy picked up and he said, I'm

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Speaker 1: in a meeting. Tell Michael, I know who is I'll

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Speaker 1: call him back. This was I'd been on for a

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Speaker 1: few years. Those guys, they were amazing, Uh Roy Marsh,

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Speaker 1: I could share stories with you forever. I love and

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Speaker 1: adore you. You've been a dear, dear friend of mine

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Speaker 1: for many days. Great to hear your voice and your

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Speaker 1: awesome stories. And we didn't even get into your colligular

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Speaker 1: lifestock gumment. We'll do that next time.

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Speaker 2: I never I never did botch nobody.

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Speaker 1: From Well could you tell him what? I never mind.

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Speaker 1: He's got people to explain terms to him. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to worry with learning the language, you know. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry I didn't have time for the night that he

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Speaker 1: and I had dinner with uh, who's the guy that

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Speaker 1: always had the block cookie monster and yell iming at

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Speaker 1: y'all's restaurant in the back room and you had to

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Speaker 1: you had to climb up and get in the chairs

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Speaker 1: with the chairs with cook what was it the ken

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Speaker 1: Bae Matumba