1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day at Bloomberg 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: dot com, the Radio plus mobile app and on your radio. 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg Business Flash and I'm Karen Moscow. 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: U s socks are lower and it concerns at Central 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: Bank stimulus is failing to boost growth while a week 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: er dollar spur gains and commodity shares. We check the 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: markets every fifteen minutes throughout the trading day. On Bloomberg 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: s and P five hundred down two tens per cent 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: or about four points to twenty three down. 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The Bloomberg 27 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: Consumer Comfort Index rose to forty four point three in 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: the period ending March thirteenth, from forty three point eight 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: the prior week. And that's a Bloomberg business flash. Tom 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: and Mike Karen, thanks so much. This could be a 31 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: lot of fun, but it's unfortunately about a serious topic. 32 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: Everyone in New York City observes the restaurants, the challenges. 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: Right now, we're gonna dive into this with Peter Elliott 34 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: with his Bloomberg Reserve. I can't say enough about the 35 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: straight talk of Bloomberg Reserve really nationwide in the worldwide, 36 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: about where do you eat? We're not to eat. It 37 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: is so far away from all the foodie stuff. I 38 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: can't stand. Peter Elliott talking straight. This guy. First of all, 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: he's made it in America because he's been on The Simpsons, 40 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: which we know is Tom Clikio. If you've been on 41 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: the Simpsons, it's downhill from there. He did Grammercy Tavern 42 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: start by explaining the miracle that was Grammercy Tavern when 43 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: it opened. Thank good morning, gentlemen, Good morning Mike um um. Yes, 44 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: Tom Clickia was was in here at Bloomberg this week 45 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: and we had just one terrific when you get to 46 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: catch up with old friends too. Yes, I was even 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: alive when Grammercy Tavern open. It's extraordinary to think it's 48 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: an extraordinary thing. How long ago, and it really was. 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: I hate to use this word, but the word is seminal. 50 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: It was a seminal New York restaurant, not just for 51 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: Danny Meyer, who was his partner at the time, but 52 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: also for Tom in the sense of, you know, what's 53 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: wrong with cooking really good ingredients, really good vegetables, and 54 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: not making it all so fussy? You know, it wasn't. 55 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: The whole point of Tom Calikio back and craft then 56 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: was and Grammarcy was that it was American style food, 57 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: meat and potatoes, just done well, could it open today? Absolutely? 58 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: Fact economics, The reason for the word of the use 59 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: of the word seminole is is that some would argue 60 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: that's what has become the American restaurant. The real interesting 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: question is is that that creation of a restaurant that 62 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: served really well made you know, steak or really well 63 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: made hamburger or really well made apple pie is ultimately 64 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: shape chack, you know, because what not everybody wants to 65 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: have an expensive ingredient driven Union Square market funded meal 66 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: every single day when I just want a hamburger that's 67 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: also made from ingredients that are slightly above average or 68 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: more than above average. And that is definitely the trend 69 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: of food in this country. As we talk, Um, I 70 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: suddenly want a hamburger fair enough, will order. But what 71 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: is Mr Calikio think of the the trend in restaurants 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: these days? Uh, both on the food and business side. Well, 73 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to give it all away, of course, 74 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: because I want you to get April's reserved Bloomberg Briefs 75 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: dot Com lash reserve and you'll get the full the 76 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: full interview um with Tom which was again one of 77 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: my one of my favorite But to put it in 78 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: a nutshell. This is what he said, one that folks 79 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: like us, that is to say, anybody above the age 80 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: of forty um that the millennials will eventually transform the 81 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: market nationwide and internationally to a time like uber when 82 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: you just think it's natural not to tip, but that 83 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: we are a long long way away from doing it. 84 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: Tom introduced tipping, uh, non tipping, excuse me at at craft. 85 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: But that's not where the money is made. So he 86 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: got into a very strong point about how at dinner time, 87 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: when when servers do make their money, the way the 88 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: only way it can really work is for a guy 89 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: like Tom who runs multiple restaurants across the country to 90 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: up his the wages of his workers to such a 91 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: level as to basically make the economics of restaurants stopped 92 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: making any sense. Now, will it happen in time? Eventually, 93 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: it will happen in time, But right now the wave 94 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: across the country is very very different ult to control 95 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: because state rules are very very different. That is to say, 96 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: what a wage, what a server makes in wage and 97 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: is able to take his tax versus in New York 98 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: versus any other state is just byzantine. Almost at the 99 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: level of the alcohol business, you know we quickly when 100 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: open table came out. Did you laugh? Did you go 101 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: this is preposterous? No? I didn't. But open table has 102 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: also not done what you know, it's set out to 103 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: do a very simple thing, which was telephone replacement. Um, 104 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: it still doesn't an ideal in the world or you 105 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: and ideal in the world, I should say, of people 106 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: who want much more than open and there's a flash 107 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: forward in an uber environment, seamless seems to be getting 108 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: seamless traction. What does it mean for the restaurants? Do 109 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: they like those orders when they come in? Um, all 110 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: of the restaurants, I would say mass generalization, but generally speaking, 111 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: they all went from distrust to I don't really want 112 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: to get involved in this to basically now most restaurants, 113 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: even in the mom and pops, have to take whatever 114 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: guy or girl walks through their door and sells whatever 115 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: products that they're selling. Every digital we'll find, We'll do it. 116 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: Open table, fine table, open fine, We'll do it, other table, 117 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: up table, downtable, side table, left, right, you name it. 118 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: I've done, seamless, I've done, but but they don't work 119 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: for specific markets. That's why Kraft works for some markets. 120 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: That's why Danielle works for some markets and why shake 121 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: check works for other markets. You know, nobody wants. Everybody 122 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: wants what they want when they want it. Speaking of that, 123 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: I want to go back to the Hamburger thing because 124 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: you got anything about it now and the whole shake 125 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 1: check thing. UH. You know, we we watched with interest 126 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: as they started expanding and UH issued initial public offering 127 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: and then things seem to go badly. How are how 128 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: are they doing? They're doing ups. They they will have 129 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: their ups and they will have their downs. So, you know, 130 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: the the great Chippotle scare at the moment has has 131 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: definitely driven off. But actually same source tails in fast 132 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: casual restaurants have been up over the past quarters, so 133 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: that is a good sign. Also, Danny never underestimate the 134 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: marketing power of Danny Meyer. They've just opened their first 135 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: West Hollywood branch and you would think it was the 136 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: second coming um there. So that has certainly helped and 137 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: bounced his stock up a little bit. I certainly wouldn't 138 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: be nervous for for shake Shack at this stage. Impact 139 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: knock on the chain, pay attention, The impact is pay attention. 140 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: It is you know Jack in the Box probably bounced 141 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: back a little bit quicker than what's happening here. This 142 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: has been going on for nine months now, so they've 143 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: not really been able to recover their market share. Something 144 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: about you just don't know. For all of the data, 145 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: for all of the media, for all of the stuff, 146 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: sometimes something sticks in the consumer's mind. On the other hand, 147 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: I was in San Francisco last weekend. There were lines 148 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: out the door Chipotaly, but they're giving burritos away to 149 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: get customers back, and they're not staying. It affects shake 150 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: check because it affects shake Scheck, That affects sweet creeny expects. 151 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: It impacts anybody who makes food because you have to 152 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: pay attention to an increasingly automated industry where you cannot 153 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: control when one of those nasty critters comes up through 154 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: your salad ball. So you have to find ways to 155 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: make sure that the same thing doesn't happen to you 156 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: and knock your business. For the beef, we need an update, 157 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: urgent surveillance update. Julia Moskin five long years ago in 158 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: The New York Times on corned beef hash. It's that day. 159 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: It always Tom Tom Keane always winds up with the 160 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: end curveball questions. But where does Peter Relliot go when 161 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: the craving is there's there's great gourmet well done. We 162 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: need we need silence in the room because this is important. 163 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: There is one of the last few true, remaining, great 164 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: old fashioned New York restaurants on Lexington Avenue. In the 165 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: day when you know, actresses lived on Lexington Avenue and 166 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: that's where they went to get their messages. Um now 167 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: now sorry, Donna Hughes, black black vinyl booths. There are 168 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: still people. If you're nice enough. Did you didn't hear 169 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: this on Bloomberg Radio? If you're an old timer, they'll 170 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: let you smoke as long as you're like in the 171 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: back alley. The waitresses are imported right from Ireland. And 172 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: and the corn beef hash with an egg on top 173 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: man the kind of white lettuce on the plate, and 174 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: the it's just it is just a priceless slice of 175 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: New York. And whenever it's a bright, shiny day in 176 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: New York, I go to Donna Hues because I want 177 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: to be They would let boat. They definitely let you 178 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: in because the light is so you know, it's so 179 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: dark in there. They wouldn't be able to see you, 180 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: so they think you were really the handsomest guy in 181 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: town Lexington, Lexington and sixty one end of surveillance walking. 182 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: Why Corey Johnson's slaving away at eleven dirties? You guys 183 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: at the bar still you know start the first that's 184 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: it's St. Patrick's Day. So the ladies at Donna Hughes, 185 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: I have loved them all my life and it's their 186 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: Cornby Peter hell Is where you travel to next? Quickly? 187 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: Where do I travel to next time? Traveling to London? 188 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: So London, very that's a good thing. Let's see what rules? Uh, 189 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: Peter Elliott with us on food and and really folks 190 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: for all of you nation, My Bloomberg twelve in Boston, 191 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: nine sixty the Bay Area with Caroline Corey coming up 192 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: food economics where we live it in New York. I 193 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: think it's become global. This is a real issue, Mike, Yeah, 194 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: of how you make business. I'm starting to see fancy 195 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: restaurants giving me sixty dollar entrees and you've killing me 196 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: and know you walking the door and they go all right, 197 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: yeah it only cost me. No, no, we'll take the chicken. 198 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: Well there we are, Thank you so much. 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