1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the show. Another one coming your 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: way from the heart of West Virginia, at least one 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: of the organs of West Virginia. It's White Salt for Springs, 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: home of the Greenbrier Resort where the Texans are holding 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: training camp this week. And another reminder, when we say resort, 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: they're in a sports performance center, a different building than 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: the actual resort facility. But it doesn't prevent you from 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: walking around the grounds and join the scenery. It's beautiful 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: here in the mountains. The weather's great. We've said it 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: all and we're still at Slam and Sammy's Sam Sneed's 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: Sports Bar on the golf course. Old White here at Greenbrier, 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: the eighteenth hole, the par three overlooking it doing silly 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: commentary for the golfers who try, at varying degrees of 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: difficulty and excellence to get to the green in one. 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: So anyway, here we are, Johnny, how you doing tonight? 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: Another day in the books of camp. This was hat day, 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: as Andre Johnson would call it. 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: Yes, hat day. It was good to have a hat day, 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: I think for the guys. It was a beautiful It 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: was overcast the entire time. It would have been one 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: of those where the guys are like, man, we had 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: traded one of these days for a day in Houston 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: to be in pads. 24 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: But it was as we said. 25 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: I think it was day three or day four when 26 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: they had one of these back at home and it 27 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: was definitely needed. I don't think there was any question 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: about it. It was definitely needed. Then they went into Bubble, 29 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: got their work done, did some stuff today that I 30 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: think will help them in the long run. It worked 31 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 2: on a lot of situational stuff at the end of games, 32 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: which I think if you can be really good at 33 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: the end of games, it saves you three points, it 34 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: maybe saves you seven. I mean, if you're able to 35 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: be really good at the end of a game, I mean, 36 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: I guess maybe it's a measurable whether it's three or seven. 37 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just what you're able to do. So 38 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: they worked on a number of different situations at the 39 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: end and executed him talk through them. There was a 40 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: time where near the end of it, Nick Cayley, Jamika 41 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: Ryans and CJ and I think Frank was there too. 42 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: Frank helps with the situationals off at the end. You know, 43 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: one to time call time out, all that kind of stuff. 44 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: So they all kind of kind of huddle about. It 45 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: was like a minute or so where they just literally 46 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: were talking and trying to figure out kind of the 47 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: situation that they were in at the time and how 48 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: they wanted to handle it. And I thought it was 49 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: it was interesting because they did it one They did 50 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: the situation one way where they got a first down 51 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: down inside the five with about seven eight seconds left, 52 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: and then they they waited to spike it until they 53 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: were like two seconds left, kind of could kick a 54 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: chip shot where you go. When they did the drill. 55 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: Second time, they came back around and they spiked it early. 56 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: They spiked it immediately, so they had eight seconds left, 57 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: and that was when they started talking to one another. 58 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: And I thought that was interesting because I guess the 59 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: thought at that point is, hey, we can let's take. 60 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: A shot for the end zone. 61 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: You know, we're down three, we know we have the 62 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: field goal pretty much in hand. Let's see if we 63 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 2: can go ahead and get a touchdown here win a 64 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: game instead of have to kick it going overtime or 65 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: you know, go to halftime. 66 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: Tied instead of up by four or whatever it might be. 67 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: So they have a certain amount of time on the 68 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: clock where they will not do that. 69 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: That's right. 70 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: I don't know whether it's six in a it's in 71 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: that range. I felt like with eight, you think about eight, 72 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: what are the things you can do? You obviously have 73 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: to throw the bonnie in zone. There's no question. 74 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: I can't take a sack. 75 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: You can't take a sack, and you cannot scramble one 76 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: of them because that's gonna kill your time. And so 77 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: they were gonna quick slant Jade Higgins. In the end 78 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: you caught it touchdown. Great job, But you're right, there 79 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: is a limit at which you look up there and 80 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: go bah, And that I think is you kind of 81 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: that's why you do that drill. 82 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 3: You get the feeling out process. 83 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: And I think you know, that's why it was interesting 84 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: to me when they did it two different ways. How 85 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: they did it to okay, hold up, you know. CJ 86 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: was kind of like, hey, you know, let the clock run. Okay, 87 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: now we'll take the snap sat hut boom like it 88 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: two seconds left, Kymie Banks of. 89 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: Field go you're tied. 90 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: And then they did it the other way, and that 91 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: was the one they spent a lot of time talking about. 92 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: So it was good to getting that situation work done, 93 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: which you this is the perfect perfect time to do it. 94 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: Yep. 95 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: Tomorrow, my guess is the way back in pads. We'll 96 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: fly to Minnesota on Friday and play football. We will 97 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: play a football game on Saturday at three. 98 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: Now, they did all this with the starters, I'll put 99 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: that into air quotes, and against the Minnesota Vikings late 100 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: in the game, you're gonna have threes fours whoever they 101 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: are out there, and you might have these situations come up. 102 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: So they all watched this. 103 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: But tomorrow you gotta work on some of this stuff again, 104 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: getting on the field for you know, quick field goal situation. 105 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: End of the half. 106 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: You know, those situations do come up in preseason games 107 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: and you want to execute them properly. So they'll probably 108 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: work on a few more things like that. But yeah, 109 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: beck in Pat's probably tomorrow a good good practice lathered up, 110 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: and then you look at maybe a lot of guys 111 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: who won't be playing Saturday. 112 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: We don't know for sure yet, but we might know 113 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: more tomorrow. 114 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: Obviously we'll know three o'clock Saturday, and you'll hear it 115 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: right here alive. I'm eager to see who's gonna be 116 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: out there, we all are, whoever it is. I'm just 117 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: popped up to see some football, a football game, ball 118 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: in the air, actual competition, another team that's eighty m 119 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: let's go preseason or not. 120 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: I'm ready to go. Yeah. Absolutely. 121 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: And obviously last year Week three was we've not won 122 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: in Minnesota. I'm correcting that, and preseason we have. We 123 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: have not won a regular season up in Minnesota. And 124 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: so I feel like it was funny because in twenty 125 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: twenty three we went up to Foxborough. We actually won 126 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: the preseason game up in Foxboro. Yeah, and I kind 127 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: of feel like, yeah, maybe that was a precursor for 128 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: what we did in twenty four against them, but it 129 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: was nice. It was nice to like we got that 130 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: winning feeling, and then we went back and won in 131 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: the regular season and pretty much dominated that game. So 132 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, we won't go back up to Minnesota 133 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: for a little while, maybe next year, maybe next year 134 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: being twenty twenty six, because you could if you both 135 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: end up in the same place, which hopefully Texas will 136 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: be in first, the Vikings would have to win a division, 137 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: but we would go back up there, and man, that's 138 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: one hell of an environment to go up there. 139 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is one hell of an environment to go 140 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: up there at top play year for the first half. 141 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: I'm sure. I'm sure it'll have some juice. 142 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: I'll have some skull going out. I want to see 143 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy for sure. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that's right. 144 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: They want to see JJ. That happened to be the 145 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: talk of Minnesota. Right now, did we do the right thing? 146 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: The fans, the media? All right, let's do this, okay, 147 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: loose look at the initial fifty three Oh boy, okay, 148 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: so and this is talking about our children. Really we 149 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 1: kind of tough. 150 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about this leaving lunch today. We're like, 151 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: all right, and we haven't done we have done our 152 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: fifty three man rosters, so like, okay. 153 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: Let's sit down and do it. 154 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: So you did yours, and then we walked over here, 155 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: and you know, right before the show started, I'm like, 156 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: all right, let me see, let me see how close 157 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: I can get. And I wrote down what I would 158 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: like to see happened, and I had fifty eight. 159 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: Now, I don't think you're a dick fight. 160 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: I don't think the NFL is gonna allow the Texans 161 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: just because I want them to have fifty eight to 162 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: fifty eight. 163 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 3: But then I started, I tell picking the NCAA tournament. Yeah, 164 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 3: I know. 165 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: And so then I was like, Okay, there are some 166 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: things I gotta do that I don't want to do. 167 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: There's one move in particular, I do. 168 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: Not want to do, and I'm trying to think of 169 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: any which way to not have it happen. But I 170 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: also with mine, I also factored in. Guys, I think 171 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: we'll start the year and I are yet me too, 172 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: so I factored in. 173 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: But you don't know that. We don't know. No, no, no, 174 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. 175 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: It's again, we have no insight info into this, yes, 176 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: just you know, seeing what we've seen and kind of 177 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: projecting forward. We have no idea like, for example, is 178 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: Joe going to be ready for LA We don't know. 179 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go on for this exercise. 180 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: I'll say no because if Joe's ready, Yes, that's awesome, 181 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: I said, And that makes some painful things happen as 182 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: a result, But it's good pain because you have Joe 183 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: mixing back. 184 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 185 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: But let's go broad stroke here, because you know, doing 186 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster on the radio. I want 187 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: to keep it radio friendly. So some broad stroke stuff here. Okay, 188 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm keeping two quarterbacks, it's not keeping three. You and 189 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: I have not discussed what we were doing. I did 190 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: the same thing. 191 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I kept two because I kept looking for more 192 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: offensive spots. 193 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: At first I had three. I said I don't have 194 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: the luxury of keeping three. Exactly, I can't do it. 195 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: And the other thing is this slowvis Mertz. 196 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: We love you. 197 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: I got a feeling that you're going to be available 198 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: for the practice squad, both of you. I can make 199 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: a decision about it later based on preseason performance. Now, 200 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: if one of these two just lights it up and 201 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: somebody's got quarterback problems, yes, you expose one of them 202 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: and it could be an issue, right or God forbid, 203 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: you have a quarterback injury situation. 204 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: Probably no, you're not. So let's see. I did that. 205 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: I did two quarterbacks as. 206 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: Well, two quarterbacks, and one's gonna end up on the 207 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: practice squad of the other two. All right, O, line, 208 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: I had nine. Okay, I wanted ten. I wanted ten, 209 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: but I had nine. 210 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 3: But this is dang it. I got nine as well. 211 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, this forced a painful cut because I figured, you know, 212 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: you look at the guard situation right now. Juice is 213 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: running with the ones. They make a big deal out 214 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: of this. He wasn't last week. Who knows what next 215 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: week brings. But you know ed Ingram, Lake and Tomlinson, 216 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: these veterans you brought in in the offseason. 217 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: Do both of them make it for sure? Does your 218 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: boy Jaylen Thomas? Is he a lock? We're gonna hear 219 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: from him later on the show. 220 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: Is he a lock? So one of those three might 221 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: be on the outside looking in or end up on 222 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: a practice squad. 223 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: Here's here's the thing that's wild about that position. I 224 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: have the five quote unquote gouds written down. Yeah, and 225 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that I'm looking like that. I kept three. 226 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: I'm not even sure that the two that I didn't keep. 227 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: One of them may not may not be a starter 228 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: for this team. You know, it could go all the way, right, 229 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: you know. 230 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: I was I was on with uh. 231 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: I was on Paul Allen h during practice the other 232 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: day and he asked me about ed Ingram and I 233 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: was like, you, Ed's a kind of interesting dude, because 234 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: there were days he's with the threes, then he would 235 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 2: be with the ones. He had a day was Monday 236 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: or Tuesday here where he ran almost the whole day 237 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: with the ones. 238 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: Uh, and then the other day he's then back to 239 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: the twos. 240 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: So like you don't, those guys can go from off 241 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: the roster to starting at that position. 242 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to say this about the guards. 243 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: I'm going to say this about the guards, especially if 244 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: Titus is playing right tackle right. 245 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: They don't know. They don't know yet. 246 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: You're right cold Popovich, Nick Cayley, Demiko Rans I think 247 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,119 Speaker 1: you're Nick dead on Cassario. 248 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: They don't know yet. 249 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: They want to see it the next few weeks, joint practices, 250 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: whatever ends up happening the games, they want to see it, 251 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: and they'll make a decision. 252 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: If there is a position I look at and think 253 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: trade possibility guard, I don't know who. 254 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: That would be, but I could. I could see that. 255 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: I could. I could like late acquisition labor day, Yeah, exactly. 256 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: You know thee Well, let's just go with nine, nine ols. 257 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: That's why I have nine as well. 258 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: All right now, I got gluttonous at receiver and I 259 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: kept seven. Okay, because Barrios is my putt returner and 260 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play anyway. And I couldn't cut X. 261 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: So that just put me well, and I couldn't cut 262 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: Justin Watson. And I had the top four. I have 263 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: the Cyclones and the top two Nico and Kirk. So 264 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: I've got seven and I'm just gonna live with it 265 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: for now. 266 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: I couldn't do it. I could not do it. I 267 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: had I went six, and I went with six. I 268 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: had to win with Barrios being one of them, and 269 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: you know the guy that I love the most, X. 270 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I couldn't. I couldn't find space for 271 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 3: it because I just feel like Justin. 272 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: I feel like Justin Watson has got to be on 273 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: his team with everything that he has in his being 274 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: of playing in championship games, playing in super Bowl games, 275 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: I mean just having that resource, and he's still damn productive. 276 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: So I just I had to find something. And I 277 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: felt like X was my fifty four. 278 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: I think if X is not on the fifty three initially, 279 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: he's gone. He is gonna get picked up, get picked up. 280 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: And I worry if the teams that are hurting for receiver, 281 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 3: somebody's gonna put But. 282 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 2: If okay, But but here's the thing. If and Braxton's 283 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: had a good camp at receiver. But I know that 284 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: My biggest thing with Braxton is I feel very comfortable 285 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: back there with him on the punt returns. But if 286 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 2: I don't, If I don't have Braxton, who's returning punts? 287 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: Does it end up being Jalen Knowle And all of 288 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: a sudden you got a rookie back there, Yeah, returning punts, 289 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: And you don't want Kirk to do it because he's 290 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 2: back there and practice doing it, but you don't want 291 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: him to have guy there. If God willing, something happens 292 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: and Christian Kirk just has to catch the ball before 293 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: it goes in the end zone. He has to be 294 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: that guy for you. Okay, fine, I'd rather not have 295 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 2: Christian back to returning punts. And to me, I feel 296 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 2: like Barrios because he's so comfortable catching it and he's 297 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: got some wiggle left that he with these special teams, 298 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: I think he can be really good as my punt returner. 299 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: So I ended up keeping six and X is that guy. 300 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: And you're right. If X is exposed to waivers, he's gone. 301 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 3: And I don't even want to do that. I don't 302 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: want to do that. 303 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: And if you remember last year, the first Hall of 304 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: ex was having one hell of a training camp. Then 305 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame game, he was outstanding, and it 306 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: was like, to me, that's when you really kind of 307 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: solidified his spot. 308 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 3: And I just ends up making the Player of the Year. 309 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: I struggled with that. 310 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: By the way, receiver injury bug has bitten, Jared Wayne 311 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: waved injured, Johnny Johnson waved injured, and you get quit. 312 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: Deceifa's back here, has been here before, so getting a 313 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: little depth there for preseason game purposes. And he's got something. 314 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: I mean, we were talking about it last year. Unbelievable talent, 315 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 1: incredible athlete. I want to get to the tough ones here. 316 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: Tight ends. 317 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: Okay, I wanted four, you know, I wanted four, but 318 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: I had to go with three. It's some funny how 319 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: we didn't. They come up with the same thing. And 320 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: I got poor Luke coming back on the practice squad. 321 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: Poor Luke. Maybe maybe he might get picked up, who knows. 322 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: Now again, he could light it up in the second 323 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: half of these preseason games, and all of a sudden 324 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: you got a different problem. 325 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: And look, we're we've got a long way to go. 326 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: We have three preseason games, two joint practices, that's five 327 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: really heavy physical contact meeting coming up in the next 328 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: two three weeks, and that doesn't include padded practices. So 329 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: you don't hope for guys to get hurt, but sometimes 330 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: guys get hurt and then that ends up making the 331 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: decision for you. 332 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 3: But that's what I said. Three. 333 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: And you know that you already have a player hurt 334 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: here at this position group. So I know that Jake 335 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: Moreland would love to get five on the fifties. It's 336 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: not going to happen though, in all likelihood. All right, 337 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: running backs, this was tough too, man. I went four. 338 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: I went, if Joe's on, ir whatever he's on, and 339 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: you go, Chubb Damian dare you. 340 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: Gotta have what he marks? I gotta have what he 341 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: marks with that? Also, tell like what am I gonna 342 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: do about Brums exactly? Like without British? 343 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: Like, what do you do? 344 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: Like He's gonna be tremendous on special teams, can play 345 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: both fullback and tailback. But I I did the same thing. 346 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, I gotta go with four running backs. Oh 347 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: my gosh, Well, so did you keep did you on yours? I? 348 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: Did you know? I couldn't? I did? Well, what do 349 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: you got, all right, let's go to defense. But I've 350 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: got one less receiver than you do. Yeah you do. 351 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: Yeah that ex so's that's where that's where extra spot 352 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 3: comes in. I just think they're gonna but you let 353 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: British walk. I know, but I but I had to 354 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 3: keep Yakab. 355 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like he's he's a more complete 356 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: full back. Okay, so that's that's why I went in 357 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: that direction. Okay, all right, let's go defense. Here is 358 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: the most painful cut on the team. Most painful cut 359 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: on the team is on the D line because on 360 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: the D line, obviously you know your top two ends 361 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: are and you know Barnett is on Pop right now. 362 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna assume he's back. Okay, I did. I 363 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: didn't for this one. See, you took the easy way out. 364 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: No, you took the easy way I did. Everybody's gonna 365 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: be on Pope this season. 366 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: We've got four weeks. That's a pretty deep ir list, 367 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: right that. I'm telling you. 368 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: I've seen it before that way, you've seen it before. Now, 369 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: I don't want it to be that way, but I 370 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: do know. Well, I'll tell you this, if if I 371 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: did add Barnett to the mix. 372 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: Yep. Then I got a really tough decision. 373 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: I got to I mean, I've got a So I 374 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: kept fifty one fifty five yep. Darryl Taylor's definitely in 375 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: fifty two Autrey. So there's and obviously you can go 376 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: inside outside. 377 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 3: I thought Autrey is on ir okay, So you went 378 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: with A. 379 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: Went Barnett, I did, okay, So then d Line, I 380 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: went Sheldon fully hopefully full you can get back here soon, Rio, 381 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: Tim Settle and Togy. 382 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: I went five inter defenseive linemen. 383 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: Because there's if training camp matters in some sense, and 384 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: it has to, then Tommy Togia has to be honest 385 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: team at least through the first four weeks, because he 386 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: has been one of the top five players. 387 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: In his camp. 388 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: He has been outstanding, and he was outstanding the last 389 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: half of the year Sack Mahomes in the AFC Championship. 390 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: Tommy is on the team, you know, so I feel 391 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: like you gotta have Toga. I can not let Tommy 392 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 3: walk out of the building. 393 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: So that does put a lot of pressure on you, though, 394 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: because I are you know, you've got to look at 395 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: who's going to be in, who's going to be out 396 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: fully could be on ir, but maybe he's not. 397 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: I don't know that. That's another difficult decision. So a. 398 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: Lack of information that you have here when you're coming 399 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: up with an initial fifty three at this point, which 400 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Anyway, we're just doing it because it's fun 401 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: to do. 402 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh wait, did you have Bird and or No 403 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: or making it at end? 404 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: I could, I couldn't. I think those two would be 405 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: the next in line if if Donko, if Deniko is 406 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: not ready to go, and it comes down to that, 407 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: and then it comes down a decision of Horton and Bird, 408 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: and I think thus far in camp I would probably 409 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: give the edge to Solomon Bird. 410 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 3: Right now, how many linebackers do you have? 411 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: I have six? I have six because five see I 412 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: went five here. Oh I want to see who you 413 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: let go? I want to see you so hurt. 414 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: So the zero c Harris, Henry E J. Hanson. I 415 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 3: kept Hanson. So you cut Niemen, didn't you? Oh? Nieman? Yeah? 416 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: I know. 417 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: And Neiman's probably gonna make it because you need him 418 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: on special teams special and they like Osai and they 419 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: like Wood are two and Jamal Hillsman making Hill. 420 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a lot of play, but you 421 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 3: do have practice squad capability. 422 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 4: Here. 423 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: You get to elevate from the practice squad and you 424 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: can do swap seas if you have multiple lineers on 425 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: the practice squad. This week, we're bringing in this guy, 426 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: bringing up this guy to help on special teams. 427 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 3: You know, you work it like that. 428 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: Because I look at my initial fifty three and then 429 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: I think, well, geez, who am I bringing to the 430 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: game on Sunday. 431 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: That was That was the That was the next question 432 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 2: of all right, well some something's got a ghost when 433 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: I get to the DVS. 434 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: I ended up keeping ten. 435 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, But it came down to and this is the 436 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: decision that I had to make, and I'm not totally 437 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: sure that I have this decision the way I want 438 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: it right, But I kept I kept Russ Yeast at 439 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 2: safety and D'Angelo ross at nickel and let go Miles Bryant. 440 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 3: Oh. More I think about it, the more I'm like, 441 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 3: you know, I think Miles makes it with the Angelo 442 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: because Miles can play safety if you need him to. Yeah, 443 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 3: and he plays that nickel. Yeah. 444 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 2: I think I think that's probably you know what, I'm 445 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: changing my mind. I think that's the that's a probably 446 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: better way to go with Miles. Miles has had one 447 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: hell of a training camp, not that Russ hasn't, but 448 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 2: I feel like. 449 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: We don't know. 450 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: We don't have no idea what's gonna happen with Jimmy 451 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: Ward at all. But I assume it's a I think Miles. 452 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: I think so too. I think Miles. That's where I 453 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: put him. Initially, I think my can play safety, he 454 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: can play nickel. I think he's he's the ball player. Okay, 455 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 2: so I changed my mind. I put Brian in there. 456 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: That still gives me my fifty three. I just I 457 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: swapped that out of it. J. Yeah, MJ's gotta make it. 458 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 2: MJ's had a hell of a camp at safety man. 459 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: So he's a captain on special teams. Yeah, yeah, ye know, 460 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: he's a personal protector. He gets them all lined up. 461 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: I mean, he's you gotta have hm J. 462 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 3: Stewart. 463 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: I mean he said it the other day. To me, 464 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: is like aging like a fine wine, Like dude, I 465 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: hope I aged that way because he's played really, really well. 466 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: He's had a number of interceptions, he has made a 467 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: number of plays. He feels really he just looks and 468 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: feels comfortable in his defense. So he's that piece at 469 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 2: safety that I think you got to have to go 470 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: along with CJ. Gardner, Johnson and Kaylen Block. 471 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: I had Treymont making it because I've got Derek Stingley, 472 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: I have Kamari Jalen Smithsehel o'ross. 473 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 3: And Treymont Tremont. Yeah. 474 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like pe Tree, Miles Bryant. Then 475 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: I went Kaylen, CJ. Gardner, Johnson, and Stewart yep. So 476 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: I went with ten DB's total. 477 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 3: That's why, Yeah, that's why I have. Yeah, you guys 478 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 3: that can play multiple positions. 479 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And I think that's what you you'd like 480 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: to have as many of that in the secondary as 481 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: you possibly can. But then you get your three specialists, 482 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: Austin Bringman, Kymie Fairbairn, and Tommy Townsend. That was where 483 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 2: I screwed up the first time because I had twenty 484 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 2: nine offensive. 485 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 5: Players twenty six defenses, like, oh man, I only gotta 486 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 5: cut two. And then I was like, oh crap, I 487 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 5: forgot this special So I always put them up first. 488 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 5: But here's my question, and I don't know if anybody 489 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 5: can really answer it. 490 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, they probably can Frank Ross could tell us 491 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: why is it so difficult? He's got to have a 492 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: reason to teach somebody. Two guys on the team who 493 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: are definitely gonna dress on Sunday to long snap, is it? 494 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: I guess it's that hard and you have to be 495 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: totally focused. 496 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 3: On that and nothing else. Yeah, but you gotta have 497 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 3: there's there's a backup. There is. 498 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: We don't know who that is, but there is there 499 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: is a backup because if something were happened to Austin, 500 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: you gotta have. You gotta have some bad un answer, 501 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: which my guess is one of the centers. Maybe that 502 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: might be tight end. Tight End, could be. 503 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: Tight end type guy. 504 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 2: You know Luke Joel Jason, you know how exactly you 505 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 2: know how Luke was shake could end up making a 506 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: sucker right there. He's he's the backup. 507 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: I haven't seen him do it, No, I know I have. 508 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if you've seen anybody else do it. 509 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 1: If I'm one of these young guys, I'm coming out 510 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: early and I'm practicing. 511 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: If i know I'm in a position battle, Yeah, I'm 512 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: going out there. I'm going right in front of Frank 513 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: and I fire and bullets I'm gonna make Frank. 514 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 3: Think about it. 515 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: Sorry, Austin, nothing personal here, It's business, not personal, aus Brinkman. 516 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 2: I mean, if you had a roster player that could 517 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 2: long snap, I mean that's the ultimate because then you 518 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: don't have to keep a spot for a specialist. But 519 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: us is pretty damn good. I mean, he fis some 520 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: fastballs back there, and he'll get better and better. You know, 521 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: we just for over years. I'm not we never took 522 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 2: weeks for granted, no we didn't, but we knew that 523 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: it was gonna be a good snap every time. 524 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: So we knew that was not gonna that's gonna be 525 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: a big issue. 526 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: That's a moment. That's a moment on Saturday, the first 527 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: non John Weeks long snap. I don't think we've had 528 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: anybody else do it in this whole time, even in 529 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: the preseason. 530 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 3: I don't think so. We might have once, I don't know. 531 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: I know we've had other guys in camp. Yeah, but 532 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: I feel like it's happen, but not often. Yeah, not often. 533 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 3: Forty six was stepping over. Let's just put it this way. 534 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 3: In a regular season game, it's gonna be a big. 535 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 2: Mom he he is tweeting John Weeks's tweeted some pictures 536 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: or posted pictures on Instagram from San Francisco, and it's 537 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: the weirdest thing. It is the weirdest thing to see 538 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: him in a forty nine jersey like odd as like 539 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: there there have been Texans and other jerseys that it 540 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: wasn't odd. It was just kind of frustrating. Like when 541 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: hop first went to the Cardinals, it was like, that 542 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 2: doesn't look right. 543 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 3: From any lot. What Johnson to fall thank you? That 544 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 3: was one. 545 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: You know. 546 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 2: The other night we had a we had a dinner 547 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: with you know, our internal I wanted to think about that, 548 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 2: what's the weirdest athlete in a different jersey that. 549 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 3: You ever saw? For us, just anybody. There's so many 550 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: examples of that. I mean Andre Andre and he was weird. 551 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: Andrea in a Colts jersey. I was like, I don't 552 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 3: like it. 553 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: Andrea Ina Titans jersey look bizarro. That looked bizarro world. 554 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: Keimlija wanted the Raptors is the one that I always 555 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: think about like that. That was just crazy, That was 556 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: not right, all right? 557 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: Coming up Evan Washburn, He's been on the sideline for 558 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: numerous Texans games. He's gonna work with JJ Watt. He's 559 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: next here among others on Texans Radio. Back to the 560 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: Green Briar Texans Radio, Mark Factor, Mair and John Harris 561 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: with you and training camp will wrap up here after 562 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: tomorrow's practice. They won't travel till Friday, so they'll meet 563 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: and do things like that to get ready for preseason 564 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: game one Saturday and three. It'll be live right here 565 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: now on the TV calls this year when the networks 566 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: really get rolling in the regular season, JJ Watt's gonna 567 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: be a color commentator with Iron Eagle as his play 568 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: by play guy, and on the sideline in that crew 569 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: will be Evan Washburn and Evan stopped by practice this week. 570 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: I had a chance to catch up with him and 571 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: ask him his impressions of Texans practice. 572 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 6: I think there's some real issues on the defensive side 573 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 6: of the ball, a lot of concern there. No, it 574 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 6: was impressive to see that group getting ready to come 575 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 6: out here. Obviously, I'm consuming as much of the content 576 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 6: from you all, from everybody who's here day to day 577 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 6: and what they've been saying about. That unit lived up 578 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 6: to the billing in what was a pretty competitive practice. 579 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 6: I mean, you're seeing guys taken to the ground in 580 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 6: certain periods, so I thought that was a great indicator 581 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 6: of what that group can be. And then just getting 582 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 6: a sense and then more so talking to guys like 583 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 6: CJ after practice about where this offense is and what 584 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 6: is a developmental stage of bringing in an entire new scheme. 585 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: How helpful is this time of year to your job 586 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: during the regular season on the sideline. 587 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 6: I would say it's foundational in a lot of ways. 588 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 6: Not to say you're really referencing something I saw today 589 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 6: if I were to have you week three or five, 590 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 6: because so much of this will not be irrelevant but 591 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 6: old news. But I just feel much more comfortable talking 592 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 6: to a head coach talking to players being able to reference. Hey, 593 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 6: remember when I saw you out in the Greenbrier. It 594 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 6: was cool to see a player make a play here 595 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 6: and then see where they are or maybe aren't when 596 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 6: we're catching them in the middle of the season. So 597 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 6: I just find it a really useful practice. Just also 598 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 6: get caught up on who's on what team and how 599 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 6: are things feeling. 600 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: How about being on the sideline? What's important about being 601 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: a great sideline reporter, Evan, I. 602 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 6: Think you have to be the editorial consultant chief of 603 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 6: a broadcast crew, because if you think about it and 604 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 6: you know this, you do it at the highest level. 605 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 6: Pay by play and analysts are talking for the entire 606 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 6: three hours. A quality sideline person is basically making sure 607 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 6: we're not missing anything. Now, the obvious things are, hey, 608 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 6: this player got injured, but the little things from like 609 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 6: a storyline standpoint, Hey, it's the second quarter and we 610 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 6: haven't hit something that we talked about last night because 611 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 6: they're so caught up and literally play to play. So 612 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 6: I really think, outside of covering injuries, covering things that 613 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 6: happen on the sideline, what are we missing? What is 614 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 6: the viewer missing that we have context on that we 615 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 6: should be delivering usually early in a game, because we 616 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 6: like to do it. First and second quarter we're set 617 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 6: in the menu, and then third and fourth quarter the 618 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 6: game dictates where we're going. 619 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: Have you met much yet with JJ Watt, new color 620 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: commentator on your crew with Iron Eagle. 621 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 6: Well, thankfully JJ has been in the mix with us 622 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 6: for a couple of years doing the studio at a 623 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 6: part time capacity, so we've crossed pass at seminars some 624 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 6: of the times they've come out on the road for 625 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 6: playoff games. And I don't have to tell you this 626 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 6: or your listeners or fans. 627 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 7: I mean, he's the best. 628 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 6: He's such a easy guy to be around, and I 629 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 6: think what he's going to bring to our group is 630 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 6: not just the football acumen in the knowledge, but just 631 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 6: a level of energy that's going to be exciting. So 632 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 6: we've had a couple zooms we're gonna get together next week. 633 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 6: It's really it's something we're all looking forward to and 634 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 6: pumped forward. But now he's the rookie again, so I 635 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 6: think he's got to recognize that as well. 636 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 4: Well. 637 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: How many rookies have you worked with as color commentators 638 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: or play by play people at the network level for NFL? 639 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 4: Great question. 640 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 7: This will be my first. 641 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 6: I came in with Dan Fouts, who was anything but 642 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 6: a rookie Hall of Famer both as a player obviously 643 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 6: and in my opinion a broadcaster. And then Charles Davis, 644 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 6: who is as professional, prepared and honestly as good as 645 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 6: anybody at doing the job. He's been with us the 646 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 6: last four or five years. He was anything but a rookie. 647 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 6: So JJ's the first, and I like to say it's 648 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 6: the first time for me that I'm not the youngest 649 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 6: guy on a crew, so it's good to have somebody 650 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 6: that's a fellow millennial on the crew. 651 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 3: So how did you get started? 652 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: I know you went to Delaware and my good friend 653 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: Mike Corey used to be voice of the Blue Hens 654 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: and I was with him at U MASS He was 655 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: a student when I was the play by play announcer there. 656 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 3: So Delaware to what how did you get started in 657 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: this business? 658 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 7: Wow? 659 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 3: How much time do you have one? 660 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 7: Mi? 661 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 4: Core is a great guy. I really enjoyed his friendship 662 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 4: and getting home over the years. 663 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 6: The best way or the fastest way I should say 664 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 6: to describe it, went to Delaware, played lacrosse, lacrosse stream 665 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 6: ended because I got injured final game, and then it 666 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 6: was what are you going to do next? I love sports, 667 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 6: played every sport growing up. I like entertainment TV. Maybe 668 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 6: these two things can marry. Was fortunate enough to get 669 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 6: an internship at a TV station in Washington, DC, live 670 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 6: in Baltimore, and that kind of gave me my master's 671 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 6: degree and all the things you need to do, whether 672 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 6: it's editing, shooting a game with a camera, writing scripts, 673 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 6: all those things. And then in conjunction with that, I 674 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 6: actually started calling lacrosse games collegiately locally because in Maryland 675 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 6: the DC area, it's a big deal, so college games 676 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 6: are on TV cable access. So I was the analyst 677 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 6: and that got me an opportunity the following year at 678 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 6: CBS Sports Network, our cable station as a color analyst 679 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 6: doing college lacrosse games. Once I had that relationship, I 680 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 6: started sending them clips of me doing one man band. 681 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 4: Stuff in Baltimore. 682 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 6: In DC, they had a last second opening in twenty 683 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 6: twelve for a college football sideline reporter. They were, I 684 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 6: don't know, crazy enough to give me that chance, and 685 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 6: that sort of opened the door to be a sideline reporter. 686 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 6: Within two years, I got bumped up to NFL and fourteen, 687 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 6: and now twelve years later, this is where we are 688 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 6: and it's now a career. So I'm fortunate. But I 689 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 6: also say, as you know, in this business, everybody's kind 690 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 6: of got their path and just kind of have to 691 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 6: find it. 692 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: People always ask me what's my most memorable game or moment, 693 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: but it's often something that would be under the radar. 694 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 3: Something. 695 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: Do you have anything like that, A couple of memories, 696 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: moments and games or games themselves that will always live 697 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: with you. 698 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 6: It's a fun exercise and and do it because I 699 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 6: do appreciate what we get to do every week. I 700 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 6: think the two that come to mind. One is a 701 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 6: big time moment. It was I always mix this up 702 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 6: because it was the twenty nineteen Super Bowl, but it 703 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 6: was the twenty eighteen season. It was whenever New England 704 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 6: beat Kansas City overtime AFC Championship game, going to beat 705 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 6: the Rams in the super Bowl. So I was on 706 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 6: the Patriots sideline for that game. Tracy Wilson on the 707 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 6: chief sideline they win in overtime, we do on the 708 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 6: field post game with Tom Brady and to have that 709 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 6: moment with that legendary player, he had kind of lost 710 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 6: his mind in a good way. He maybe dropped a 711 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 6: couple le f bombs on the broadcast, which you know, 712 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 6: maybe isn't the right thing, but I enjoy it because 713 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 6: we root for authenticity. So that was that was special. 714 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 6: And then the second one, more so just because of 715 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 6: where I came from. When I got to be on 716 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 6: the sideline for the Ravens Chiefs AFC Championship game, I've 717 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 6: lost real rooting interest, but for that city where I've 718 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 6: called home now for ten plus years growing up down 719 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 6: the road in Annapolis. For them to have their first 720 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 6: AFC Championship game and to be part of the broadcast 721 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 6: to experience that environment, didn't go away. They wanted to go, 722 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 6: but that was pretty special. 723 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 3: Awesome. Evan, thanks a lot for your time. 724 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 4: You sure man. Always good to see you. 725 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: Evan Washburn's sideline reporter extraordinary for CBS now Let's shift gears. 726 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: Ben Solac also had practice this week. He's of ESPN 727 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: big time digital reporter for them. Is he a reporter? 728 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: Not really, He's an analyst, yes, sort of uses a 729 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: lot of analytics as he breaks down the NFL. 730 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 3: He's basically a football nerd in a very good way. 731 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: I talked to Ben Solac, all right, Ben, tell me 732 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: your general thoughts here of observing Texans practice Day one. 733 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 8: Texans defense pretty good. I think that's been that kind 734 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 8: of that. That's the running jock I've heard from everybody else. 735 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,719 Speaker 8: But it's just a reminder. In training camp, you're installing 736 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 8: a new offense. You're dealing with offens the line of 737 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 8: rotations because you're trying to figure out who you guys 738 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 8: are going to be, and meanwhile they ain't rotating. 739 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 9: This is Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter every time. 740 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 8: Stare e seemly Kamar Lasser every time, you know, And 741 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 8: that's that's a good way to cut your teeth. That 742 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 8: they're rotating a lot of wide receivers as well. So 743 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 8: it's always going to be a situation that is advantageous 744 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 8: to the defense that's going to show out. But you 745 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 8: still see cg making good reads against the blitz, right, 746 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 8: you still see uh giden Higan's getting a separation. 747 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 9: And then there's those pockets of brightness. 748 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 8: So it's what August first, August second, there's you know, 749 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 8: there's there's weeks and this this offense is going to 750 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 8: be a discovery thing. 751 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 9: It's gonna be something that gets figured out and ironed 752 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 9: out over time. 753 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 3: All right, So tell me doing what you do? 754 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: What are you observing here? Most of all, what angle 755 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: are you looking for when you come to a practice 756 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: like this? 757 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 8: So all right, you're bomping from training camp, training camp 758 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 8: to training camp. The first thing you want to do 759 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 8: is you want to see how some of the positional battles, 760 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 8: some of the snaps are being distributed. Right, it was 761 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 8: like a big rotation, a tight end. I didn't know 762 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 8: coming in that I was going to see a lot 763 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 8: of cads over with the ones. Brevin Jordan had a 764 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 8: cup with the ones. You know, you're seeing that Daria 765 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 8: Anglebiwalle is still clearly you know, their third down back, 766 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 8: and then what marks gets opportunity with the second team? Right, 767 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 8: so you're you're kind of learning, okay, where are they 768 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 8: shuffling right now at their positional groups, and a lot 769 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 8: of time you're specifically looking at the rookies, right. You 770 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 8: want to see how these guys look, how they physically 771 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 8: are put together, and then how they behave do they belong? 772 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 8: Are they lining up the right spots and they getting 773 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 8: in and out of the flow. I felt like Jalen 774 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 8: Noel is walking out like a veteran right away. He's 775 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 8: lining himself up, he's pointing things out, he's winning on 776 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 8: routes to say, okay, like you can start to get 777 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 8: a sense that these guys belong. And then the other 778 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 8: thing you're always looking for is operation right, especially when 779 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 8: you got like a first time offense. There was I 780 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 8: think one moment where Jaden Higgins was lining up little 781 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 8: bitning correctly and they had to fix him. But other 782 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 8: than that, really smooth operation. And a lot of what 783 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 8: coaches can control in training camp is the prestab stuff. 784 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 8: And then the ball is snapped and a guard goes 785 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 8: the wrong way and it's an immediate pressure and okay, 786 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 8: we gotta throw. 787 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 9: That play out. But presa break the huddle effectively? Do 788 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 9: we get through the most effectively? Do we lineup correctly? 789 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 8: Everybody know their jobs and so you know, I was 790 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 8: in Cleveland, I got like four quarterbacks goaling. There's a 791 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 8: lot of pre snap issues. You're here in Houston. The 792 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 8: pre snap operation was very, very good offense and defense. 793 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 8: That leads you to believe that the install's going well 794 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 8: and the team's being to understand what's expected of them. 795 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: Your impressions of Demico Ryans entering year three, I know 796 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: he's breaking in a new offensive coordinator. 797 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 798 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 8: I think Demiko Ryans is the most underrated head coach 799 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 8: in football. I've been an enormous fan since the San 800 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 8: Francisco days. You cannot find a player with something less 801 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 8: than glowing to say about what Demiko has been to them. 802 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 8: You see how quickly he rows up through the ranks. 803 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 8: You see how effectively he wins on the chalkboard. They're 804 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 8: great against elite quarterbacks not named Lamar Jackson. They got 805 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 8: to figure out the Lamar Jackson problem. I'm sure they're 806 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 8: working on it, but they're really good against the elite quarterbacks. 807 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 8: He's won two postseason games in two seasons, one in 808 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 8: each season. He's the eighth head coach NFL history to 809 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 8: do that at least one playoff win in each of 810 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 8: his two seasons. You go and you look at the list, 811 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 8: like the last guys to do it were Matt Lafleur 812 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 8: and the Harball Brothers. Right, is just a good list 813 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 8: to be on. I think that there are a few 814 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 8: coaches in the league I would trust more from a 815 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 8: culture perspective, from an intensity perspective to get the team 816 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 8: ready for a Sunday than Damiko Ryans. And there's few 817 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 8: coaches that I would trust more in a playoff environment, 818 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 8: in a well off chance against a really good team 819 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 8: to at least have the defense really show up there. 820 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 8: We're going to see what the offense looks like again 821 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 8: excluding the Ravens because they have a raven problem to 822 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 8: figure it out. 823 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 9: But the other guys that are really good against. 824 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 3: Him and so like with as ESPN. 825 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: So tell me, I saw some tweets you talking about 826 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Bullock, but he wasn't the guy that you were 827 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: initially looking at. Besides him, Well, tell me about your 828 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 1: thoughts regarding him and then some other players that don't 829 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: get as much publicity. 830 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm here working on a big Derek Stingley piece. 831 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 8: So you're watching a lot of the secondary and I 832 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 8: already knew I like Bullock. His rookie season was great. 833 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 8: This guy's clearly good washing back to the second times 834 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 8: on these most is not just extremely fast and has 835 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 8: really really remarkable range, which we should pause for a 836 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 8: second and say that. You know, in the late twentyds 837 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 8: and early twenty tens, Ed Reid ORL. Thomas, we thought 838 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 8: this is how safeties worked. Like the league was like, right, 839 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 8: you got to find more deep middle safeties, find these 840 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 8: post safeties, find these guys with range, And we tried 841 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 8: to have a bunch of imitations of those guys, and 842 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 8: we couldn't do it because it's actually a really rare 843 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 8: skill to have that sideline a sideline range that's fallen 844 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 8: out of favor. It's all too high defenses now, right, 845 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 8: Bullock is one of like legitimately five guys in the 846 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 8: league who you can actually just put back there in 847 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 8: the middle and say, you know, make a play against 848 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 8: the Hashes on the right sideline, and they make a 849 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 8: play against Ashle on the left sideland he has that 850 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 8: legitimate range to him. And it's not just the speed. 851 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 8: He sees it fast right, he's moving before the quarterback 852 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 8: separates his hands and his angles are great. That was 853 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 8: really the thing that's set out on rewatch is that 854 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 8: his first step takes him exactly where he's supposed to go. 855 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 8: A lot of times he's young safety, they gotta weave 856 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 8: and they gotta adjust to the ball and whatever. He's 857 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 8: straight as an arrow to where he's supposed to be 858 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 8: really really good angles. Bullock is gonna quickly become one 859 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 8: of the best safeties in the league if he keeps 860 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 8: this up. 861 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 9: He's got to stay healthy. He's a little bit thinner. 862 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 8: You know, there's some run defense stuff to do, but 863 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 8: from an impactful perspective in the secondary, it's clearly a 864 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 8: rising star. Kamara Lass was the exact same thing. I 865 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 8: think this is the best secondary in football. And then 866 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 8: you know, I think as he's al sho here probably 867 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 8: doesn't receive the credit he's due at the linebacker position. 868 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 8: Highly physical player, good taking on poland guard, stepping down there, 869 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 8: playing with the trees. 870 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 9: That's a player that gets underappreciated. 871 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 8: And then Tim Settle was the other guy in that 872 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 8: defense who just every single game one or two run 873 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 8: defense plays, one or two penetration plays, because this is 874 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 8: always going to be a front that prioritizes the pass rush, 875 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 8: and accordingly, they can lose a little bit and run defense. 876 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 8: But if you get one, make a little bit of 877 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 8: a splash and get to that second and twelve, then 878 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 8: the dogs can eat and Tim Settles that guy who 879 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 8: makes those plays for them. 880 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: It's hard to tell right now in August. But what 881 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: do you think of Nick Chubb being on this team 882 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: and what he might be able to do? 883 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 9: I think it's hard to tell in August. 884 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 8: You know, it's the big question because Nick Cayley could 885 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 8: be a wizard. But if they can't chop a first 886 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 8: intend into a second and six with a handoff, then 887 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 8: you're climbing an uphill battle, right that's a long road 888 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 8: to hoe. And so their number one question over the 889 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 8: next month is figuring out, Okay, if we don't have 890 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 8: Joe Mixon for let's say at least a four week period, 891 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 8: six week period. 892 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 9: I don't know where he's gona be out with the 893 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 9: injury thing. 894 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 8: I don't want to get yelled at by Demico, and 895 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 8: so whatever it ends up being, if he's out for 896 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 8: an extended period, how do we want to get our 897 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 8: running game touches to whom we want to give them, 898 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 8: and how do we want to line those guys up. 899 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 8: You're never gonna be able to see what Chubb's full 900 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 8: athletic profile looks like until we get to September, because 901 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 8: there they're you know, they will still be rehabbing him 902 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 8: and onboarding him and preparing him athletically to kind of 903 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 8: peak when the season starts, and so you don't want 904 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 8: to make big assumptions there. But yeah, we haven't seen 905 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 8: Chubb looked the way he looked pret injury since the injury, 906 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 8: and so I think it's still a riddle for them 907 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 8: to solve with a Goomba Walle, with Woody Marx, with 908 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 8: whatever running backs might be available in for agency, and 909 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 8: then obviously with Joe Mixon, what does he look like 910 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 8: when he comes back their running back touches is the 911 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 8: biggest question for them on offense. 912 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 3: Where else have you been on your training camp tour 913 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 3: other than Cleveland? 914 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 9: Did Detroit? Cleveland? Buffalo, Philadelphia, DC, Baltimore? This is stout 915 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 9: number seven. 916 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So who has impressed you or surprised you among 917 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: those stops? What team Texans played Baltimore? Obviously it'll be 918 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: on the road. They've never won in Baltimore. They've never 919 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 1: beaten Lamar Jackson. 920 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 3: It's time. What do you think of the Ravens. 921 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 9: I think the Ravens are gonna be really, really good 922 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 9: this year. There's no two ways around it. 923 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 8: They did not have huge substantive moves in terms of 924 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 8: personnel or coaching staffs this year. But the secondary is 925 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 8: the big question right where Nate Wigans now moves into 926 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 8: the corner one spot and I're gonna continue to play 927 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 8: Marlon hump For on the inside, and then corner two 928 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 8: is a conversation between Chidobea Woozier and Jay Alexander, whom 929 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 8: they added in free agency. And that's that last year 930 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 8: for them, there was a they were really bad defense 931 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 8: to start of the year and they got really really 932 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 8: good late in the year because they made changes in safety. 933 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 8: They have Pyle Hamilton now and the rookie Malachi starts. 934 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 8: They expect to be good there again. But you still 935 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 8: you're gonna leave your corners in isolation. You have great safety, 936 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 8: that's gonna happen. And Wiggins was a player who statistically 937 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,439 Speaker 8: was great. Advanced stats love him, but they were still 938 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,959 Speaker 8: you know, he was their corner too. They were pulling 939 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 8: them off the field. He was a little bit of 940 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 8: a rotation, right. They got a lot of penalties last season. 941 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 8: This is like a young player who they want to 942 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 8: you know, sharpen his skills. Now he's an NFL guy. 943 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 8: And then, like I said that, right now, they have 944 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 8: a battle at corner too. And so if there's a 945 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 8: question mark for the Ravens, it's at that position. But 946 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 8: I mean offensively, defensive line, schematically what that team is. Yeah, 947 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 8: they're gonna be good. 948 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: Okay, tell me what do you have going on on 949 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 1: the website or wherever people can get your content. 950 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, So, like I said, I have a big piece 951 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 8: coming out on Stingley. I'm doing a series this year 952 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 8: at the beginning of the season on underappreciated stars and 953 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 8: what makes them so good. So probably speaking to to Texans. 954 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 8: I think that there's no under appreciation there on Derek 955 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 8: Stanley from the fan base, but nationally, you know, you 956 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 8: obviously hear a lot about certain You've heard a lot 957 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 8: about Sauce, but you know Stanley more than holds his 958 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 8: own against those guys, and it's important to talk about why. 959 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 9: So that peace will be coming out sometime early September. 960 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 8: But you know, if you got the app and you've 961 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 8: said to the app you're Texans fan, it'll get sent 962 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 8: right to you. 963 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 3: Awesome, Ben, thanks to left for joining us. 964 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: Thanks sir, all right, it's Ben Solac from ESPN coming up. 965 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: Final segment on the Way, you're gonna hear from John 966 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: Metchi and also Jalen Thomas. Both those guys are gonna 967 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 1: play a bunch this weekend at Minnesota. Thomas a bunch 968 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: of guard and he could be a big surprise on 969 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: this old line. We'll hear from those players next as 970 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: Texans All Access continues. Final segment here, Let's get right 971 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 1: to it, Jalen Thomas making some noise on the offensive line. 972 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 3: John Harris visits with him. All right. 973 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 2: Trenny Camp twenty twenty five continues on a wonderful here 974 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 2: at the Greenbrier. Jalen Thomas, do you agree wonderful day yesterday? 975 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 4: It's honestly beautiful, honestly beautiful. Take a plain. 976 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,439 Speaker 2: You played SMU, so I'd imagine we didn't. You didn't 977 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 2: have many days like this when you were in. 978 00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 3: College, did you? 979 00:40:59,239 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 7: Oh? 980 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 4: No, I think it's houston. 981 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 3: To get used to that. 982 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: Maybe had a pretty good camp thus far. I asked 983 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 2: Jake this morning I saw him. 984 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 3: I said, how's the body feel on day twelve? 985 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,479 Speaker 4: Definitely not like day. 986 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 10: One, I'll tell you that, but I mean still feel good, honestly, yeah, 987 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 10: still a little early in the camp, though still feel good. 988 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 3: How's the offensive line coming together? 989 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 2: Obviously different combinations day after day, all that kind of stuff, 990 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 2: But how do you feel like it's coming together when 991 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 2: you guys go back and watch film at the end 992 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 2: of the practice. How do you guys feel about how 993 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 2: the unit's coming together. 994 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 10: I think it's coming up good or good. I think 995 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 10: everybody's putting in work. Everybody's coming out here just to work. 996 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 10: I think that's the big emphasis in the off season 997 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 10: is that you know, we're gonna work this, this, this, 998 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 10: this preseason, and that's all we're gonna worry about. 999 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 3: And it feels like you guys have that camaraderie too. 1000 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 4: I think this is one of the closest groups I've 1001 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 4: been around. 1002 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but for sure, very cool. I'm glad you're here now. 1003 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 3: In college, you play tackle. 1004 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 2: You probably played all over the line throughout your career, 1005 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 2: but she feels like more you're at guard now. How 1006 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 2: do you feel playing inside? Do you feel like that 1007 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 2: suits your skills? I mean, you've got to build to 1008 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 2: play guard. How do you feel How do you comfortable 1009 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 2: do you feel playing that spot inside? 1010 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 10: I feel comfortable. I feel like guard. Is it fits 1011 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 10: me best, especially in the league. Yeah, don't have the 1012 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 10: longest arms. Yeah, And I think I'm a pretty strong guy, 1013 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 10: and who can who can move, who can move a 1014 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 10: little bit in the middle. 1015 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 4: So I think I'm guard really fits me on in 1016 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 4: the league. 1017 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting when it was posted this 1018 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 2: summer that guys that got extensions that played tackle had 1019 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 2: some of the shortest arms at tackle. 1020 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 3: So I thought it was interesting when you said that. 1021 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 3: I kind of chuckled at that point. Okay, let's go 1022 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 3: inside the the old line room for this one. 1023 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 2: I need you to be honest. There are times at 1024 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 2: the end of practice where coach will call up a 1025 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 2: player and if you catch the punt, you get out 1026 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 2: of meetings that night. You got a sprints or whatever 1027 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 2: it might be. So if the team had to bet 1028 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 2: on one offensive lineman to catch the punt to get 1029 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 2: out of meetings, who would it be? 1030 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 4: Like? Have you really been? 1031 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 3: I feel like? 1032 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 10: I mean he was a quarterback in high school and college, 1033 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 10: so he has very good ball skills. 1034 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,040 Speaker 4: Definitely, say Titus, Okay. 1035 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 3: Where would you be on the list? Would you be 1036 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 3: one of the guys up front to make that catch? 1037 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 4: Top three? 1038 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,800 Speaker 3: Okay, Saturday we go to Minnesota. 1039 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,919 Speaker 2: Well, Friday we go to Minnesota, but Saturday we play 1040 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 2: in the Minnesota Vikings. To see a different color jersey, 1041 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 2: you've been going after the same guys you've been seeing 1042 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 2: in practice. How important is it and how much do 1043 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,240 Speaker 2: you desire seeing a different color jersey On the other. 1044 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 10: Side, I desired it a lot, especially not being able 1045 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 10: to play last year. So yeah, definitely, it feels good 1046 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 10: this time to finally hit somebody other than my teammates. 1047 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 10: So it'd be amazing get out there and play. 1048 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 2: It'll be amazing to watch you. Jaylen, you had a 1049 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,479 Speaker 2: really good camp man, it's been fun watching. 1050 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 3: Thank fore time, Thank you. 1051 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,479 Speaker 1: There's Jalen Thomas with John Harris. Let's get to John 1052 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: Metsche Now my visit with the receiver entering year four? John, 1053 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: what are your impressions of the Greenbrier so far? 1054 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 7: It's nice, man, It's definitely different. You got the mountains. 1055 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 7: The weather is different, that's for sure, all the greenery, 1056 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 7: you know what, second third day out here, so just 1057 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 7: still soaking it in. 1058 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Does the practice feel different out here? Afterwards? You 1059 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 3: feel like you might have a little more left or 1060 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 3: something like that. 1061 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 7: I mean, you're always trying to exhaust yourself in practice. Yeah, 1062 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 7: that's how you build. There's more air out here, you know, 1063 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 7: there's more air in the air, that's for sure. 1064 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 3: How's it going for you so far? What's your assessment? 1065 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 7: It's going well. It's trying to get better every day. 1066 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 7: That's really the process. Just be better today than you 1067 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 7: wear yesterday and take it like day by day. 1068 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 4: Honestly. 1069 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 3: How tough is it against this defense? They look pretty good? 1070 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, said, defense looks good. Offense looks good. It's that 1071 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 7: iron Sharper's iron mentality that coach Ben Harbin. 1072 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 3: On how is the offense different for the receivers. 1073 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 7: I think it's kind of like just a dynamic you know, 1074 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 7: it's kind of we always have a dynamic group. Everyone 1075 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 7: can play everywhere, right, there's a lot of talent. Kind 1076 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 7: of seems like always. But I think that's good because 1077 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 7: we all help each other and it's just that iron 1078 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 7: sharper and iron in the room. 1079 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 4: You know. 1080 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 1: I see you lining up all over the place. Do 1081 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: you have a favorite spot to line up. 1082 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 7: Or is it just whatever happens, whatever happens or wherever 1083 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 7: the ball's going. 1084 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't mind either. 1085 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 7: I don't mind anyway. 1086 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 3: What about downtime here? What do you guys do? How 1087 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 3: do you bond or spend your time whatever it is? 1088 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, guys just hanging around a lot more, whether 1089 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 7: they're walking back and forth. There's stuff to do, just 1090 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 7: green Brian, you know, bowling, a lot of team bonding 1091 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 7: stuff like that. Guys go bowling or golfing and stuff. 1092 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 7: So it's definitely it's definitely really good from that aspect. 1093 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 7: We got to spend a lot more time with each 1094 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 7: other off the field. 1095 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 3: You good at bowling? Yeah, can you spend the ball properly? 1096 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 7: I just learned this offseason. That wasn't my style, but 1097 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 7: I just learned this offseason. 1098 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 3: What we do before rolling, it's straight, hoping it hits 1099 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 3: the gap. 1100 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm a straight line shooter. Straight shooter. 1101 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 3: It's tough, isn't it. 1102 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean not straight. It's easy for me. I'm 1103 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 7: straight spending the ball, spinning the ball. 1104 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 4: That's tough. 1105 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 7: That's a whole different game, but I picked it up 1106 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 7: and it's kind of it's kind of fun. 1107 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,760 Speaker 1: What's your favorite game to play, whether it be cards, chess, 1108 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: backgam They have so many different things here and you 1109 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: guys play Uno and all of that. 1110 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 3: What do you like. 1111 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, UNO's a good one. I just started playing cards recently, 1112 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 7: but I like to who know that we play as 1113 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 7: as a team. 1114 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 3: Cool, John, Thanks a love for joining us. Good le. 1115 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 3: I always love catching up with John Metchi. All right, 1116 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 3: that's the show. It's over. 1117 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 1: Area forty five is next shot of seth back at 1118 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: practice tomorrow with their show, and we'll be back here 1119 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: at slamming. Sammy's doing the nightcap and letting you know 1120 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: what happened at practice that particular day, which would be tomorrow. 1121 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: Have a great night, enjoy Area forty five Go Texans,