Speaker 1: Hey ba fam, I am so excited about today's how
Speaker 1: To throwback episode of Brown Ambition. In this episode, I
Speaker 1: got to do my thing y'all as a career coach
Speaker 1: and help a lucky listener land their dream job. And
Speaker 1: I just got the update today while I was recording
Speaker 1: this that they actually got an incredible new job. So
Speaker 1: this is why I love doing what I do. And
Speaker 1: without further ado, enjoy this throwback episode. Hey ba fam,
Speaker 1: It's Mandy here with another episode of the ba qa
Speaker 1: a the v a qa to say the v a
Speaker 1: qa with just Man day today because my girl Tiffany
Speaker 1: is OOO and we support that. We hope she's having
Speaker 1: a fabulous vacation. But I am not alone. I am
Speaker 1: joined by If not a be a existing listener, I
Speaker 1: hope she will become one after this. At least she
Speaker 1: was brave enough to submit a question to our podcast,
Speaker 1: and I'm really excited to have her here. Welcome Keyvanya,
Speaker 1: who is calling us from Atlanta, Georgia. What's up, girl?
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm glad to be here. Thank you for having
Speaker 2: me on. I'm very excited to have this discussion, so thanks.
Speaker 1: Talk to a bunch of strangers about what's happened in
Speaker 1: your career and everything? This is normal, It's a normal Tuesday. Well,
Speaker 1: I love this type of question, first of all, and
Speaker 1: we're going to listen. We'll take a listen to your
Speaker 1: question first and just come right back, okay, because I
Speaker 1: am ready to defend my LinkedIn. Okay, LinkedIn is bay
Speaker 1: and I'm going to defend her at all costs. So
Speaker 1: let's listen to your question real fast.
Speaker 2: Hello, my name is Keyvanya. First, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for taking the time. I'll to answer my question. I
Speaker 2: wanted to give you a little context before asking the question.
Speaker 2: So I'm a contractor right now seeking out a full
Speaker 2: time role in the field that I'm currently working in.
Speaker 2: Before this, I was working in another field, so I
Speaker 2: did a little bit of a career change. However, this
Speaker 2: role that I'm in right now isn't giving me the
Speaker 2: full experience that I'm seeking. And so I've done all
Speaker 2: the things of getting my resume redone, getting my resume
Speaker 2: looked over, having my LinkedIn optimized, you know, using LinkedIn
Speaker 2: to connect with people to network. However, it just seems
Speaker 2: to me that LinkedIn is not really doing what I
Speaker 2: really needed to. I've been seeking a full time role
Speaker 2: for a little over a year now, and by LinkedIn
Speaker 2: not doing what I needed to, I just mean that
Speaker 2: it's not been able to help me secure a full
Speaker 2: time role, and so I'm seeking knowledge on are there
Speaker 2: other opportunities outside of LinkedIn that I can do, like
Speaker 2: on a frequent basis, to be able to connect with
Speaker 2: people in the field that I'm working in, because it
Speaker 2: seems that LinkedIn is just not enough and I need
Speaker 2: to be able to connect with people on a more
Speaker 2: personal level because the Internet is just not enough for me.
Speaker 2: So I would love for you to give me some
Speaker 2: advice on that.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, all right, Kevanya, why are you
Speaker 1: going to come for my girl LinkedIn like that? She's
Speaker 1: not enough for you.
Speaker 2: She's not giving what she needs to give. Honestly, I
Speaker 2: thought of LinkedIn as like the Holy Grail at first,
Speaker 2: but now I don't know. I don't know if I'm
Speaker 2: just using it wrong or I'm not using it enough.
Speaker 2: I'm on there every day, so I don't know. It's
Speaker 2: just not seeming to be something that's working for me specifically.
Speaker 1: I understand that. I mean, the thing is like LinkedIn
Speaker 1: is one of the tools and your toolkit. You mentioned
Speaker 1: your resume, and I'm actually, I'm actually really, I'm not really,
Speaker 1: but I'm I guess I'm happy to hear that you're
Speaker 1: tinkering more with LinkedIn than with your resume, because LinkedIn
Speaker 1: is just sort of what's more visible to recruiters and
Speaker 1: people who can give you opportunities. And I feel like
Speaker 1: people spend a lot of time obsessing over like the
Speaker 1: piece of paper, you know, on their resume, versus actually
Speaker 1: being active on LinkedIn. So you've ticked two big boxes
Speaker 1: and by the time someone has ticked the box up,
Speaker 1: I got my resume and I'm active. Excuse me, I'm
Speaker 1: active on LinkedIn and I've optimized my LinkedIn. Now it's
Speaker 1: time for the next step, which you've identified. It's not
Speaker 1: that LinkedIn is not giving what it needs to give entirely,
Speaker 1: it's that it doesn't it's not always enough to just
Speaker 1: focus on LinkedIn. The human element is essential. And what
Speaker 1: I like about your question is that you're ready and
Speaker 1: you're like, I think I need to like talk to
Speaker 1: people and get more involved with my network. Yes, but
Speaker 1: there's not like always such a straightforward, you know option
Speaker 1: for like actually getting out there and networking and I
Speaker 1: know that's even a scary word and an Ichy word
Speaker 1: for people, but basically forming relationships and strengthening relationships with
Speaker 1: people you know in your industry. So with that being said,
Speaker 1: I want more specifics, like what kind of work do
Speaker 1: you actually do and what sort of opportunity are you
Speaker 1: looking for?
Speaker 2: Okay, so I can give you a little bit of
Speaker 2: back and then the now and then what I'm seeing
Speaker 2: for the future. So my past is I have a
Speaker 2: past of mental health profession and I was a therapist specifically,
Speaker 2: and so building relationships is one of my strong suits
Speaker 2: and also working with systems. However, during the pandemic, a
Speaker 2: couple of things happened. The pandemic, obviously George Floyd and
Speaker 2: then Breonna Taylor were also murdered. As a mental health
Speaker 2: professional at that time, it was very hard, very hard
Speaker 2: for people to receive services and very hard for people
Speaker 2: to give services as well, and so I became really
Speaker 2: burnt out. Before I even left school. I decided I
Speaker 2: didn't want to do therapy anymore, and so I loved
Speaker 2: the system aspect. So I found project management and that's
Speaker 2: what I do now. So I'm a project manager for
Speaker 2: a marketing and branding firm. Right now, However, I am
Speaker 2: a contractor. I am the first project manager. So a
Speaker 2: lot of the knowledge that I have is from my
Speaker 2: own research inside my work and also outside of it
Speaker 2: as well. So there's a little bit of like a
Speaker 2: lack of boundaries there as well, because essentially I'm teaching
Speaker 2: myself as well as the team what project management can
Speaker 2: look like. However, we know that we need someone to
Speaker 2: almost like mentor us and guide us, give us some
Speaker 2: type of experience and all of the things that we do.
Speaker 2: And so that's where I am. I love my job, However,
Speaker 2: I just need more a little bit more guidance from
Speaker 2: someone else, so maybe working under someone rather than being
Speaker 2: the senior.
Speaker 1: All right, So you have essentially like started to pivot
Speaker 1: into an entirely new field. And what I like about
Speaker 1: it is you made that happen for yourself, and now
Speaker 1: you're realizing you like it. You want to stay in
Speaker 1: this project management situation, yeah for a while, right, awesome.
Speaker 1: So how did you get the job that you have?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: This is a contract position, you said, so like part time?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, essentially it is is I got the position
Speaker 2: because I know who I worked for, got so Another
Speaker 2: barrier for me is actually, because I moved here for school,
Speaker 2: my contexts are all mental health professional contexts. So a
Speaker 2: part of using LinkedIn is finding people and also introducing
Speaker 2: myself to essentially a whole fool of people that I
Speaker 2: just generally don't know. So I'm the sole person that's
Speaker 2: I guess responsible without with with minimal health.
Speaker 1: I got you, let me get I'm going to look
Speaker 1: at your LinkedIn profile. Can you send me a link?
Speaker 1: You can put it in the chat right here. So
Speaker 1: looking at your LinkedIn profile and I'm seeing some great stuff.
Speaker 1: You have branded yourself as a project manager. You have
Speaker 1: a great little headline under your picture, a CSM. Is
Speaker 1: that related to mental health or to project management?
Speaker 2: That certified square master?
Speaker 1: Oh I knew that I need? Yeah, what a weird word,
Speaker 1: scrum master? Any right, you have your open to works Nalan.
Speaker 1: Your picture is on point.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: You have done everything right. So what I don't want
Speaker 1: you to do. What I'm hearing is like, Okay, you
Speaker 1: came from a mental health background in your contacts are
Speaker 1: in the mental health world. I don't know that that
Speaker 1: should hold you back as a hindrance. It's almost like, well,
Speaker 1: the companies they potentially work for, if they work for
Speaker 1: a practice, you know, or some sort of institution, they
Speaker 1: may have open project manager roles for you to join.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I wouldn't discount your existing network and
Speaker 1: I would definitely like stay in touch. And I was
Speaker 1: going to ask you, have you told them that you're
Speaker 1: pivoting into project management and you may even need to
Speaker 1: explain to them what it is because they may not
Speaker 1: like they may not know how to help you. But
Speaker 1: if you say, for example, like who would be the
Speaker 1: person at their company for them to reach out to
Speaker 1: to find out if there's any openings or opportunities if
Speaker 1: you can direct them in that way, or if you
Speaker 1: even know.
Speaker 2: You know, which, yeah, absolutely, I've had some profession professors
Speaker 2: reach out to me, as well as some colleagues who
Speaker 2: I actually do know some people who have pivoted from
Speaker 2: mental health to project management. I was introduced by some
Speaker 2: friends who who figured it out themselves, and then they
Speaker 2: kind of explained it to me, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that makes sense. So I have reached out to some people,
Speaker 2: it's just not enough. So I guess it's like it's
Speaker 2: like yes, and like those things do work. But then
Speaker 2: sometimes they just don't. So and I've been without work
Speaker 2: for so long, I feel like I'm at my wits end,
Speaker 2: and it's like I almost need to be introduced to
Speaker 2: someone like the exact hiring manager and like the I
Speaker 2: need the process to be all of like one week
Speaker 2: because like even even like going to networking things, those things,
Speaker 2: those events are few and far in between. So if
Speaker 2: I'm going to an event like every three weeks, that's
Speaker 2: a three week waiting period that I still don't have
Speaker 2: a job.
Speaker 1: I understand. Well when you say that you've been without
Speaker 1: a job, the job that you have now, I mean
Speaker 1: you're you are getting paid, right? Is it full time
Speaker 1: or part time? Like is it just is it enough
Speaker 1: to keep you afloat you know, financially?
Speaker 2: No, it's not. Yeah, and that ends me.
Speaker 1: Otherwise you have other work that you're doing.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I do things like uber eas door dash Uber,
Speaker 2: and then my mom definitely helps me and is there
Speaker 2: for me. But then another thing of like the whole
Speaker 2: like I'm on a timeline, the quote unquote timeline that
Speaker 2: we build for ourselves. I feel I'm about to be
Speaker 2: twenty eight and there are just responsibilities I should be.
Speaker 1: The play for oh, don't should yourself to death. I
Speaker 1: was gonna joke and be like, you're right, you really are.
Speaker 1: You're almost past your due date, past your exportation date,
Speaker 1: but you're not. Don't should yourself to death. But I
Speaker 1: do feel that sense of urgency and like you have
Speaker 1: a right to feel impatient, because I mean I can
Speaker 1: see from your your LinkedIn that it's not like you
Speaker 1: are bright like bright eyed, bushy tailed right out of college.
Speaker 1: You know, like you're not twenty one twenty two. You
Speaker 1: have some professional experience. The thing is like, you have
Speaker 1: been doing the work that you want to be doing
Speaker 1: for a year now, a year and three months. According
Speaker 1: to LinkedIn, that's sometimes the hard part that people want
Speaker 1: to skip over. But like getting the experience in the
Speaker 1: thing that you want to pivot into is almost the
Speaker 1: hard hard part. Like, I think you've done the hard part.
Speaker 1: You've got a role doing the thing that you want
Speaker 1: to be doing. Now it's about the next step and
Speaker 1: the next level up. Okay, So I want you to
Speaker 1: feel good about that because a lot of the coaching
Speaker 1: I do is often with people who are wanting to pivot,
Speaker 1: but they're just like, wait, how do I get an opportunity.
Speaker 1: You know, where do I find it? So you've worked
Speaker 1: your sources, you've gotten your foot in the door. Now
Speaker 1: the networking event thing, I get that as well. One
Speaker 1: thing that you could be doing is don't wait for those,
Speaker 1: you know, networking events that come every once in a
Speaker 1: blue moon. Reach out to the event organizers and just say, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm interested in this event. However, I would love, you know,
Speaker 1: if you can hop on like a ten minute phone call.
Speaker 1: I am. You know, I'm in a crunch time right
Speaker 1: now where I have been working as a contractor, and
Speaker 1: just be honest and say I can't wait three weeks.
Speaker 1: I want to talk to someone right now and connect
Speaker 1: with them in advance. You don't have to go by
Speaker 1: their timeline or by their rules in that sense.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense right? Yeah, it absolutely does make sense.
Speaker 2: And that's the type of advice I was looking for,
Speaker 2: because sometimes we do kind of run out of options
Speaker 2: and it's like I've been having my own thoughts and
Speaker 2: then I'm not even gonna lie. LinkedIn can be very
Speaker 2: depressing sometimes, I know it, because it's on the one hand,
Speaker 2: you have the people who are getting laid off and
Speaker 2: looking for work, and then on the other hand, you
Speaker 2: have the person who is getting a new job and
Speaker 2: they are getting promoted, and then I'm somewhere in between
Speaker 2: that where I'm like, ah, where do I go? Where
Speaker 2: do I fall?
Speaker 1: I know you're on your own path. That's why it
Speaker 1: feels lonely there. You're just we're all on our own road.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I think that the mindset is so
Speaker 1: important when it comes to like this is a crossroads
Speaker 1: in your career. It's kind of it's meant to be
Speaker 1: fraud and a little stressful. It's not going to be
Speaker 1: a forever state though, Like I can talk to you
Speaker 1: and just be like, you have so much going for you.
Speaker 1: This will be the beginning of a new chapter.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's just that anticipation of like when is it my turn?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: All right, ba fam, you are listening to the b
Speaker 1: a qa A. We are going to take a quick
Speaker 1: break and be right back with more of your questions
Speaker 1: and our answers. Okay, ba fan, we are back answering
Speaker 1: more of your questions for the baqa Let's go. I
Speaker 1: would actually I would prescribe you a little LinkedIn diet,
Speaker 1: a little LinkedIn break. Maybe you're on there too, much
Speaker 1: and instead like start reaching out if you haven't and
Speaker 1: making like some real plans to connect with humans. So
Speaker 1: we talked about the networking events that you have been
Speaker 1: thinking about going to finding the organizers. I did this
Speaker 1: myself recently, like last week, I spoke at a conference.
Speaker 1: I live in New York and there's this big working
Speaker 1: women's like entrepreneurship conference that I saw in advertisement for
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, that's in March. It was
Speaker 1: in March and thinks it was like early February at
Speaker 1: the time, and I was like, I'd love to speak there.
Speaker 1: And typically I think the advice would be go to
Speaker 1: the conference, you know, see what it's like, and then
Speaker 1: pitch yourself as a speaker for next year. But I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't really got time to wait. I
Speaker 1: want to do this live. I want to do this
Speaker 1: workshop that I've been working on live. So I just
Speaker 1: went and found the organizers and blew up. I didn't
Speaker 1: blow up their DMS, but I just tracked them down. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's easy enough to find people's I found them on LinkedIn,
Speaker 1: I found their ig page, sent them a little DM
Speaker 1: S and them a little follow up, found their email address,
Speaker 1: sent a little email there. Polite, polite, polite, and I
Speaker 1: didn't end up having to wait another year. They got
Speaker 1: me on the speaker's list based on my pitch, you know,
Speaker 1: in February they put me on the roster and I'm
Speaker 1: like sweet. So sometimes that yeah, you want to you
Speaker 1: just need to like put put yourself at the front
Speaker 1: of the line and feel confident in doing that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, especially like
Speaker 2: what you're saying a lot of encouragement, because the job
Speaker 2: seeking journey can be very disheartening. It can take blows
Speaker 2: at your self esteem a lot. So a lot of
Speaker 2: it is reminding myself that I am worthy of these positions,
Speaker 2: even yeah, even against the rejections that I get.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I mean you made a good point
Speaker 1: about like the weird dichotomy of like there is there
Speaker 1: are excuse me, in some sectors there are layoffs happening.
Speaker 1: I mean, Meta just announced another ten thousand people are
Speaker 1: getting laid off. They already laid off ten thousand, so
Speaker 1: that's just massive and it can feel like but that
Speaker 1: also can affect the mood of hiring across the board.
Speaker 1: So it's not a situation where it's like what else
Speaker 1: can I be doing? I think you're doing everything right.
Speaker 1: It's just about kind of riding this little dip. You know,
Speaker 1: there is a situation where maybe hiring managers are going
Speaker 1: to be more like a little more cautious, like a
Speaker 1: little less quick to hire, which is bad. Is not
Speaker 1: what you want to hear when you're at this point
Speaker 1: where you're ready for your next opportunity. But I mean,
Speaker 1: at least you have to understand that there are some
Speaker 1: things out of your control that could be also contributing
Speaker 1: to why nothing has really stuck yet. Okay, so how
Speaker 1: else can you put you in a space where you
Speaker 1: can meet people who need a PM? Need project management?
Speaker 1: What type of project management? For those who may don't
Speaker 1: even know much about the space or just heard about
Speaker 1: scrub Master and all that, What type of like and
Speaker 1: what type of like day to day tasks are you
Speaker 1: really good at? You know, at the place where you
Speaker 1: are now, So.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely good. So overall, if you don't know what
Speaker 2: a project manager is, not you the audience. It's basically
Speaker 2: the accountability partner for the team. So along with having
Speaker 2: CRM tools, planners, calendars, those type of things, there's a
Speaker 2: person who's basically like, hey, you're supposed to be doing this. Hey,
Speaker 2: we have a project that the do date is coming.
Speaker 2: So you have little small goals, little small tests that
Speaker 2: you have to do to be meet big milestones, and
Speaker 2: some of those things can slip through the cracks because
Speaker 2: there's so many people involved in the in the process
Speaker 2: of accomplishing one thing. And so I'm the I'm the
Speaker 2: person who's basically the string that holds everyone together and
Speaker 2: reminding everyone, hey, you don't do this that impacts this
Speaker 2: other person's job, and reminding everyone to be team players
Speaker 2: and just holding people accountable. So I think my strong suit,
Speaker 2: like I said earlier, is definitely relationship building because along
Speaker 2: with reminding people, reminding can be a thin line of
Speaker 2: reminding And what is the word I'm looking for when
Speaker 2: you're micromanaging.
Speaker 1: Your team as yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, yeah, how
Speaker 1: do you keep a le motivated to get stuff done
Speaker 1: and cut and like to check in on them without
Speaker 1: making them feel micromanager? Watched?
Speaker 2: Right? And then so definitely the relationship building conflict management
Speaker 2: because everyone doesn't always work well together, especially when you're
Speaker 2: working with people who are normally a part of different teams.
Speaker 2: So they're not your everyday person.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to stop you there because I want
Speaker 1: to ask you as I'm listening to you, and what
Speaker 1: I love about this conversation is is like the light
Speaker 1: starts to come on when I start to hear you
Speaker 1: talk about your strengths. Change management seems like a really
Speaker 1: excellent opportunity for you. So beyond just like project management,
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, I'm looking for ways when I'm listening to
Speaker 1: you to niche you down into like specialty, because what
Speaker 1: can make you unique? And you're exactly right, like talking
Speaker 1: about your mental health background and your relationships and even
Speaker 1: you know, understanding your emotional EQ and like how you're
Speaker 1: able to be a better project manager because you can
Speaker 1: you can deal with personalities and understand like the psychology
Speaker 1: behind it. That's what change management teams really are, you know,
Speaker 1: tasked with. Are you familiar with that line of work?
Speaker 2: Slightly? Yes, I've seen those within like my job search,
Speaker 2: and what you just did is specifically why I've been
Speaker 2: looking for not only people to network with, but mentorship
Speaker 2: because going to school for something else you learn all
Speaker 2: of the nuances around it, but finding out things on
Speaker 2: your own, I'm basically on LinkedIn YouTube university because I'm
Speaker 2: finding out all of the things without someone actually teaching
Speaker 2: me those things. Yeah, so having someone there as like
Speaker 2: a guide, That's kind of what I meant by working
Speaker 2: under someone because they know a little bit more about
Speaker 2: the field than I do. So sometimes you're searching for
Speaker 2: something that you don't even.
Speaker 1: Know no exactly, and how do you know what's exactly
Speaker 1: and how do you even know what lines of work
Speaker 1: are available to you if you're not just talking So
Speaker 1: even just having this conversation, I'm glad that this has
Speaker 1: you know, opened up potentially a new door, because I
Speaker 1: feel like that makes so much sense. You know, change
Speaker 1: management teams they are you know, often tasked with, Okay,
Speaker 1: we want to overhaul the payroll system, we want to
Speaker 1: bring in a new we're going to move people to
Speaker 1: a new office, or have these new policies in place.
Speaker 1: So let's you know, it's a project to manage the
Speaker 1: project that needs to get done, but it's also about okay, now,
Speaker 1: how do we roll out the news. How do we
Speaker 1: make sure people are excited about it and they don't
Speaker 1: get stressed about it. That's an excellent I would say,
Speaker 1: for sure, And like, for you, I think it'll be
Speaker 1: important not to be in a room with other project
Speaker 1: managers or other you know, people doing exactly what you're doing,
Speaker 1: but finding networking opportunities of professionals who, like you said,
Speaker 1: are decision makers, the hiring managers, the professionals who understand
Speaker 1: where someone like you could fit into their organization. So
Speaker 1: even in Atlanta, I mean, Atlanta is such a booming,
Speaker 1: you know economy for businesses and small businesses, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: where are they hanging out? You know, are there organizations
Speaker 1: like what is it called urban the Urban League? Urban
Speaker 1: League is one there are I'm sure there's a thriving
Speaker 1: you know SBA, a chamber of commerce that you could
Speaker 1: you know, look to for events and not even to
Speaker 1: go to the events, but to find names. And then
Speaker 1: we find the names, find the email addresses and you know,
Speaker 1: look them up on LinkedIn and find people who have
Speaker 1: the titles of jobs that you want and just be
Speaker 1: you know, an advocate for yourself, you know, informing those connections.
Speaker 1: And I think that you'll they'll be impressed by you
Speaker 1: taking your mental health background and understanding how there's those
Speaker 1: that bridge into project management and even more so independentially
Speaker 1: change management. You know, I could also see a path
Speaker 1: for you in HR, which sometimes is like closely aligned
Speaker 1: with or even does some of the work of change
Speaker 1: management people, you know, uh, and going into that kind
Speaker 1: of space too. That's that's also an opportunity for you.
Speaker 1: I wish you were a member of my coaching community.
Speaker 1: I know I have people in my community who work
Speaker 1: in exactly these fields, and I'll definitely go through the
Speaker 1: list of Mandy money makers and see if I can
Speaker 1: connect you with anyone, because.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, that's what happens. You met a new human.
Speaker 1: If I'm in a position to support you, I want
Speaker 1: to do that. Okay, So I just feel like you
Speaker 1: need like a little bit of a reset. You know,
Speaker 1: this sucks, it's taken a long time, but your opportunity
Speaker 1: is around the corner. You just got to like feel
Speaker 1: that way and just keep pushing.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that good feel good. Sometimes we just need
Speaker 2: a little bit of boost to like, Okay, I'm back.
Speaker 1: That's what I do every day. You're so not alone.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the reasons I found in
Speaker 1: my career coaching practice is because I was talking to women,
Speaker 1: especially women of color during the pandemic, who were wanting
Speaker 1: something new, and it's isolating because the Internet is nice
Speaker 1: and there's all these resources and like you said, there's
Speaker 1: YouTube and LinkedIn and articles on what to do and
Speaker 1: how to do a job search, but it can feel
Speaker 1: like you're the only one. And then you graduate with
Speaker 1: people and like they're off doing their thing and you
Speaker 1: get on LinkedIn and it seems like people got stuff
Speaker 1: going on, and it's really isolating if you don't have
Speaker 1: that community of people that you can, you know, align
Speaker 1: yourself with and feel like you're in the trenches together,
Speaker 1: all sort of striving towards something better. So as much
Speaker 1: as you can find community in a place where you
Speaker 1: can feel supported, I would say that's going to help
Speaker 1: you stave off this anxiety, this you know, t tick
Speaker 1: in your head that's telling you that you should have,
Speaker 1: should have, should have, should have, should have. We got
Speaker 1: to ban that where it should From the from.
Speaker 2: The vocab, I've heard that I'm trying.
Speaker 1: You're trying, You're where you need to be. And and
Speaker 1: again like, do not discount you have a year under
Speaker 1: your belt of project management experience. They don't got to
Speaker 1: know what's part time. They don't got to know all
Speaker 1: the things that you wish you had that you don't have,
Speaker 1: and you don't have a mentor, and blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: bah blah. Just sell it, you know, tell that story,
Speaker 1: Tell it? Okay, all right, Kivanya, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for letting me pour into you a little bit and
Speaker 1: talk your head off, and please keep me posted because
Speaker 1: I do get quite invested with our BAQA listeners, so
Speaker 1: I want to know more about your journey. Okay, so
Speaker 1: stay in touch.
Speaker 2: Okay, absolutely, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: You're welcome. All right. I want to say thank you
Speaker 1: so much to Keivanya for joining us on the VAQA.
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