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Speaker 1: who's like really flawed, like in Spirited Away, someone who's

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Speaker 1: like manic or like she's just a child, but also

425
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: has the ability to like traverse an insurmountable level of dystopia. Um.

426
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: But I really appreciate that, and like the animal genrange.

427
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: I really love taking little breaks from I guess what

428
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: I would think of as American storytelling. I think in

429
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: a love of Japanese storytelling, it can get very dark

430
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: and also not necessarily give you the payoff you expect

431
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: at the end, where it's like, but everything will be okay, right,

432
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: and then it's just like maybe not maybe give me

433
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: give me a sad ending. Yeah, seriously, and like the

434
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: end of Evangeli and the show anyway. Um. Not speaking

435
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: on the movies is so vague and so like is

436
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: this good? Is this bad? I can't really tell. I

437
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: just love stuff like that, and you get that watching movies,

438
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: I guess from other cultures as well. Just let you

439
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 1: take a little vacation from the tyranny of American optimism,

440
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: where it's just like the end everyone has there has

441
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: to be a wedding where everyone's cool at the end,

442
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: every dad's fine. The happily ever after feels very western. Yeah,

443
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: and movie studios won't make things without happy endings like

444
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: it's such a fierce Um. What what was your gateway

445
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: drug into anime? As something of an anime consume? It

446
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: brings me no pleasure to announce this. Um it was Naruto.

447
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: And I know everything there is to know about Naruto.

448
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: Is it frowned up myself? Is it frowned upon an

449
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: anime community? You know, it's just silly to me because

450
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: here's why my little sisters love Naruto. It's so good

451
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: and so bad. Like I think if the quality of

452
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: the later seasons were better, I would be like more

453
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: upfront about being a Naruto stand. But I know everything

454
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: about the Great Ninja War arc, and that is trash

455
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: like garbage, garbage story telling. Nothing makes sense. People have

456
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: sort of checked out in terms of the animation and

457
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: the art style. Um, everyone gets brought back as some

458
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: sort of zombie like clearly they're out of ideas. And

459
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: it's just hard. It's hard being a Naruto stand. We

460
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: are often um overlooked in this country and we are underfed.

461
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: And what is Naruto about? Um? Naruto is about a goofy,

462
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: little neglected ninja who would grow up to become the

463
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: Ninja president. Um. So he went from a child soldier

464
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: to being the leader of the child soldiers and that's beautiful. Yeah, beautiful. Yeah,

465
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: it sounds sounds great. Well, that's what's so weird about

466
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: Naruto is that, like, so the main antagonist is always like,

467
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: this whole system is horrible. I'm going to like get

468
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: rid of it and start over again. And the show

469
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: makes you think that's this horrible idea, and then you

470
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: look at it again, it's like, why are these children

471
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: going out fighting each other with knives and their little superpowers?

472
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: And that's not great. Maybe Sacek made some points, but

473
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: the show kind of doesn't let you explore that. There's

474
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: a lot of anime child warriors, like even Sailor Moon

475
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: like that, by the power of the Moon, I will

476
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: punish you, like she is a you know, magical girl,

477
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: um teenage uh the magical cop cop, magical moon cop.

478
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: She is a magical you know. It's so I was

479
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: about to say, Taylor Swift, Sailor Moon was like definitely

480
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: my gateway drug. I guess maybe a lot of baby

481
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: queers had that. But I remember being in like the

482
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: anime aisle, or rather not even an aisle, like an

483
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: anime like section of Blockbuster and begging my mom to

484
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: let me take home like the vhs that had like

485
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: the first eight episodes or whatever, because like my mom

486
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't didn't want me to bring it home because it's

487
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: like very femin It's like this, like you know, it's

488
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: like almost like Barbie content, you know what I mean.

489
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: And so there was something where she was just like,

490
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: my Sean can't watch this. But like I when I

491
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,479
Speaker 1: took it home, I remember being like kind of like

492
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: in it for the girliness and then staying for you know,

493
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: that subversion of like the heroine of like because Sailor

494
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: Moon is like famously like a dumb bimbo, and I

495
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: feel like she's like never knows what's going on, and

496
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: like she never she's like always at a cross um,

497
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: she's always at a crossroad that someone has to fix

498
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: for her, but that she's still like saves the day

499
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: every time. I don't consume anything where there's a little

500
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: theme going on, like I'm the lightning one, I'm the

501
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: fire one, I'm the water one. I love that. Well.

502
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: Like Pokemon, let's talk about it. I think we should

503
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: have that conversation conversation. What was your Pokemon? Your first

504
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: Pokemon memories, my first Pokemon memories. My god, it goes

505
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: so far back. I remember getting a Pikachu plush because

506
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: I was gay. I was very uninterested in like the

507
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: actual like card game. I didn't want to play anyone else.

508
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: I wanted to collect the shiny ones, for sure. But

509
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: they were like boys in my Catholic school who knew

510
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: all the rules and we're very into like actually battling

511
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: each other, or like back in those days you would

512
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: connect your game boys together with a cable and joking

513
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: that's a double end dildo. I was mostly in it

514
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: for the aesthetics, like I am for everything else in

515
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: this world. I was just like, oh, I love the

516
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: way these look. Um, specifically like dragon Air. I think

517
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: that's the gayest. Yeah, the one with the horn and

518
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: the wings. I saw her at dragon Airs at Pieces.

519
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah she's at Pieces right now. Um yeah. I I

520
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: remember also not being that into the card game at all.

521
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: Like I was just like, these are pretty, and I

522
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: want to draw all these Pokemon, and I'm going to

523
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: collect a binder full of them, but like did not

524
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: actually really connect to the lore. Obviously watched the series

525
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: and was like horny for Brock and Misty. Yeah, talk

526
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: about another heroin Bembo, Like Misty is so hot and

527
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: so fierce. She's the water one. Yeah, she's the what

528
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: was your Pokemon entry point? Okay? Great? Second grade? UM,

529
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: that's when you know the the franchise of Pokemon took flight.

530
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: It was like huge success, um. And once it reached

531
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: like the American zeitgeist, and then, of course a little

532
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: later reached the Midwest where I was, UM, kids started

533
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: collecting cards and it was immediately banned at my high school.

534
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: UM in large part because I think kids started fighting

535
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: over cards, and there became financial ramifications to like, you know,

536
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: eleven and twelve year olds, like giving away or getting

537
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: tricked into like trading really expensive. Yeah. It was literally

538
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: an economy, and all of a sudden, the parents have

539
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: to like research on the monetary value of these cards,

540
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: which is they're like, it's so absurd. It was an economy.

541
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: Implying that there was a Bernie made off of the

542
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: Pokemon economy in some middle school somewhere. I wonder who.

543
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: I wonder who It wasn't me. I wasn't savvy. I

544
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: was just like I love Metwo exactly. I never did

545
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: the card game. I U got I wanted the game

546
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: that when Nintendo Blue came out, I had the original

547
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: Pokemon Nintendo game and I played it to the end,

548
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: and then I never had any interest in Pokemon again.

549
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: Uh wow, like people people were playing with the cards

550
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: at my school. I just like, really, I wasn't into it.

551
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: I think like I was into like Magical Girl anime. UM,

552
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: but I don't know, like the game didn't really do

553
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: it for me. Um. And I haven't like through the years,

554
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: I have not really spent a lot of time with

555
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: anime except you know, um, um, you know, upon your recommendations.

556
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: And then okay, earlier this year, like the end of

557
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: last year, I did get kind of into this one

558
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: anime called the Ancient Major Spride. Have you watched you

559
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: your sever down the Iceberg? I know what? Yeah? Okay,

560
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: So it's about this girl who sells herself into slavery

561
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: because she's poor. Um and she is, and she's bought

562
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: by a demon who has like a skull head no no, no, um,

563
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm your daddy, now I'm going to

564
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: take care of you. Also, you have magical powers, and

565
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: that's kind of what the show is about. It's about

566
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: her like getting into all these magical hi jinks and

567
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: then he like comes and saves her and he's like,

568
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna get married, the classic coming of age narrative. Yeah,

569
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: of course there was something like there was something a

570
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: little insidious about like the fact that not all of these,

571
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: not some of these like more adult enemies, but like

572
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: a lot of these cartoons were designed for kids, and

573
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: yet their characters are so hot, like so so I

574
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: was attracted to every Miyazaki protagonist, all of them girls

575
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: and boys, like and that anything the androgyny of like

576
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: how pretty these characters were. It's like a part of that,

577
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: like draw well animals very fami, very fam even the

578
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: boys are so like emotive and like in their feelings

579
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: and problems, huge huge hair. Oh my god, how much

580
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: gel is being in these animals? And Gary ashcatch ums

581
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: nemeses and Pokemon was a fag And I think that

582
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: was the big crux of their relationship, is like Gary

583
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: was in love with Ash and like didn't want to

584
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: admit it, you know what I mean. Um anyways, that's

585
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: a tangent. I also needed to mention that, um my

586
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: mother forbid me from watching Pokemon after like my first

587
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: to Blockbuster rentals because a neighbor told her that people

588
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: were getting seizures from it. Yeah, No, not at all.

589
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: I mean there might have ben there may yeah, of

590
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: course there may be. Maybe what there was like one

591
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: headline m that my mom read on like focus on

592
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: the Family dot com or something like that about how

593
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: like someone you know with epilepsy maybe saw Pikachuse Flash

594
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: and had a seizure or something. But like my mom

595
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: literally forbid me from watching it because she was like, no,

596
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: Pokemon gives you seizures. And I was like, Okay, I

597
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: definitely definitely remember Pokemon. I think kind of Harold Ding

598
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: the the anime boom in America and we really have

599
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: had it ever since. And having sisters who are younger

600
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: than me, they're they're eighteen year old twins. Um it was.

601
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: They love anime and have like their their whole lives

602
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: as they've been like conscious of what they're consuming. And

603
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: I think, I guess, and it's just now part of

604
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 1: like the culture Alexicon for for kids growing up now

605
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: they have so much more access to it than even

606
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: we did as teenagers. You know. I just thought about

607
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: one thing that needs to be addressed is the number

608
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: of bops that anime has given us in weeks, like

609
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 1: a Cruel Angels thesis, the theme song to Ethan Gillian

610
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: I love, It's so good it's it's slab, like the

611
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: theme songs Oh please, the full Middle Alchemist soundtrack incredible,

612
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: like oh my gosh, sailor Moon. Honestly, I was at

613
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: a party that I will not name and promote here

614
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: where they played a a remix of the Pokemon theme

615
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: song and I astral projected, we're taking this out. Bleep it,

616
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: bleep it, phoebe by. No, I was not on the

617
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: poke bon I was. I was at something. I was

618
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: at another time party, another bleep party, um, and uh

619
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: yeah it was. It slapped its leaped so hard. But

620
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: I also was thinking about I don't know if we

621
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: want to get to this too fast, But I am

622
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: thinking about urion Ice, of course, are well you think

623
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: about your course for the virgins. For the virgins, uri

624
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: on Ice is maybe one of the gayest things ever created.

625
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: And we have consumed, between the three of us a

626
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: lot of gay ship. We are paid to consume a

627
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: lot of homorotic things, and easily your on Ice is

628
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: the gayest because it's not because it's not only about ice,

629
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: it's not only about figure skating. It's about gay figure skating,

630
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a an anime of gay figure skating,

631
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: and they create they create an entire romance. So long

632
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: story short, there is like a kind of flop ice

633
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: skater who is trying to get his he's trying to

634
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: re emerge into the zitegeist as like he's trying to

635
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Speaker 1: you know, have his moment back and be a professional

636
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Speaker 1: figure skater. And he falls in love with a coach

637
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: that is just basically body shames him into greatness. Um,

638
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Um. And so I remember when I was

639
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: watching this, I was just like, wait, this is for children,

640
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: and it's huge, huge, and like consumed by heterosexual people

641
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: massively in Japan, and yet um yeah, it's like like,

642
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: so it's the horniest thing I've ever seen. And yet

643
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: they never well it's arguable they kiss, but it's like

644
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: their faces are hidden. Why don't you think they I

645
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: think it's up for interpretation, and I think that they don't.

646
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: They absolutely kissed. Why it is literally so gay that

647
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Speaker 1: it's ambiguous. That's the thing. Actually, that's that's not Ki

648
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Speaker 1: sing is gayer than kissing, Okay, but the only thing

649
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: gayer than gay sex is the anticipation of gays. Let

650
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: me tell you they have a plenty of gay sex

651
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: in fan fiction. That there is a lot. There's a

652
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: lot of urion Ice fan fiction. And I have read

653
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: some of it. I have not I have not written

654
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: any of I have I have read a lot. I

655
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: um My, one of my best friends lives in Japan,

656
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: and he brought me a stack of urion Ice fan

657
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: fix that they literally like published and is sold in bookstores.

658
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: Like a lot of anime fan fic is like sold

659
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: in bookstores, and it's very It's like a whole other

660
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: genre of things. I love that genre of like homo erotic,

661
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: super niche anime. Like there's ones that are just about cooking.

662
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: What's the digest Like, what are some of them are

663
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: about bread? Well, Like there's literally an anime family, just

664
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Speaker 1: like there's a kink for everything. There's an anime for

665
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: absolutely everything. If there is an industry out there, there

666
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: is a niche sort of slice of life anime coffee shop,

667
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: anime restaurant, anime, um anime about like it's just every

668
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: like pilots. Yeah, exactly, if you can dream it, it exists, Yeah,

669
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: which is why Yurie was like, I was like, this

670
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: is so specific, and I'm enraptured by whether or not

671
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: he's going to do this like quadruple parrouet or whatever.

672
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: It made me so interested in figure for like for

673
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: like a very short amount of time. Yeah, and the

674
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: and the interest was really only relevant to the show

675
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: because like I do like some figure skating, like I'll

676
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: watch the Winter Olympics sometimes, but my interest wanes pretty quickly.

677
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: And I was realizing that it was more about, you know,

678
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: like the gay relationship drama than the figure skating of

679
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: it all. Um, I wish there was more of it.

680
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: There was supposed to be a movie. There wasn't. And

681
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm ready for the movie whenever it comes out.

682
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Speaker 1: But you're on ice doing for you, Adam Ripon, couldn't

683
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Speaker 1: I love? Actually, you can watch it on crunchy roll

684
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: question or I guess you can pirate. Yes, I have

685
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: a crunchy roll subscription. I thought I bought it to

686
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: watch the Ancient Majors Brian Why because because okay, here's

687
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: actually how it happened. I was watching the Lindsay Ellis

688
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: video about Stephanie Meyer, and it was like apologizing to

689
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: Stephanie Meyer. Linda Ellis is a video essayist, and it

690
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: was about like the how badly everyone treated Stephanie Meyer

691
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: when Twilight came out, and it started delving into like

692
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: the like monster boyfriend trope, which is like obviously what

693
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: Twilight is, and started talking about Ancient Major's Brian and

694
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm into that. One thing Rose is

695
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: going to do with any genre is find the that

696
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: absolutely regardless of absolutely It's like I have a homing beacon.

697
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: It calls you home. Yeah, directly to like the weirdest,

698
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: most perverted, darkest possible offshoot of whatever you will. You

699
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: will find her at the bottom of the iceberg every

700
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: single time, like licking the iceberg. No wait, that's actually

701
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: such a a absolutely accurate thing about how you can seem.

702
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: But it's also it's true, and it's like, you know what,

703
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm happy that I have stayed curious and that and

704
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: that when something like that pops up, I'm not just like, oh, Okay,

705
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: cool child is born an artist. Yeah, you kind of

706
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: have to. That's a thing. Sometimes it's like I think

707
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: that the best cultural critics are the ones that also

708
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Speaker 1: understand what's at the bottom of the barrel, you know

709
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: what I mean, the things that are maybe the worst

710
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: parts of the genre. That's still okay, let's not talk

711
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: dirty about ancient majors. Yeah, maybe not that specifically, but

712
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: I do think like when I consume something, like I

713
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: kind of want to watch the bad thing too, you

714
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I think it helps me

715
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: understand when totally there's and there's a lot of bad animals.

716
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Speaker 1: Well that's where you mind, like people just trying to

717
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: scratch the itch or whatever. And I think that's what

718
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: drives most of most art forms in the world. It's

719
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: just more laid bare in the worst parts of it.

720
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: Like you see what the goals of most anime are

721
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: in a very simple form. When you look at a

722
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: bad anime, it's like, okay, yeah, it's for escapism, it's

723
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: for like looking at huge anime racks, like it's just

724
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: their breasts are so large, heaving, heaving, both the men

725
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: and the women. They have very large, big naturals. That's

726
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: that's a very crucial part of it. And I think

727
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Speaker 1: mikers on a new anime o, God, I'm sure it

728
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Speaker 1: exists already is the thing that I was about to

729
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Speaker 1: say on Sailor Moon, but I think she's like sixty.

730
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Speaker 1: They're very young on Sailor Moon, but they're just like

731
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Speaker 1: they fully formed. Tuxino Mask was one of my early

732
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: childhood crushes. But okay, who was your favorite sailor scout?

733
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: Mine was Sailor Venus. Mine was, I believe, also Venus,

734
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: if not Mars. Well, mine was, weirdly Sailor Mars, which

735
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't understand for myself because that doesn't feel like

736
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: it fits with the rest of me. I don't know

737
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: she's I think Sailor Mars is the gayest of them. Well,

738
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Speaker 1: isn't she gay in the original? No, because in the

739
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: in the so in the basically when Sailor Moon. Can

740
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: you all can correct me on this, When Sailor Moon

741
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: came over to the US, they took out all of

742
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: the queer ship that was in the original. Yeah, Neptune

743
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: in Neptune and Uranus. Yeah, I'm sure it was Neptune

744
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: in Uranus um. But I remember like being totally like

745
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: sideswiped when someone told me that they was queer stuff

746
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: and sailone and I was like, no, there wasn't because

747
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: it's because of the way they dubbed it, which is like,

748
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, a big conversation when it comes to anime

749
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: is like dubbing versus subbing, and like what gets lost

750
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: when you watch a dub version rather than the original,

751
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: which you should always watch the subs always, but even

752
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: then you might not be getting like the correct translation. Right, Yeah,

753
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: I feel like, Um, it's also like very funny and

754
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: obviously you know anime of files you should like slade

755
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: into ideas and provide more context. But like I do

756
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: think that, like it's funny that like Japan, like in

757
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: terms of like how um queer people are seen in

758
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: that society. Like it's it's actually like a super homophobic,

759
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: like very rigid kind of version that has really rich

760
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: like subcultures um in like where communities there, and yet

761
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: like Homo anime is so massily consumed and accepted in

762
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: a way that it's almost what in a way that

763
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: was like to you know, risque for American audiences, you

764
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Um, but yeah, I would love

765
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: to if anybody has more context. Well, it's like I

766
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: guess like whenever you have a no Homo moment that

767
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 1: allows you to have all the homoments like, that's why

768
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: your ion ice can exist when like literally in the

769
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: first episode victors like naked in the Hot Spring is

770
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: like get in with me, but as long as you

771
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: don't see them kiss, it's fine. And sis straight women

772
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: like in who that consume anime? In Japan, the the

773
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: largest genre they read is gay anime. It's the same

774
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: male anime. Yeah right, we're right. What is the overlet there? Like?

775
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: What is that? Um? We could go a dangerous route

776
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: and let's do it touch on hintie. Oh, obviously we're

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Speaker 1: looking the iceberg. We're here the iceberg. Talking to one

778
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: of my really good friends the other day and we

779
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Speaker 1: had this moment. I don't remember why it got brought up.

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Speaker 1: He was like, have you ever seen Goblin Dungeon? Have

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782
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: me this is not At this dark moment where we

783
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Speaker 1: both confessed that we've seen Goblin Dungeon, I don't remember

784
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: why I saw. It's basically, um, this video about these

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00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: really hot anime boys men and they go into this

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Speaker 1: cave to fight some goblins and the goblins end up

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Speaker 1: look up on my heart WiFi, but listen, they will

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Speaker 1: the name of this podcast to Goblin. This goblin is

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Speaker 1: in Goblin Dungeon. I would read the essay on Goblin Dungeon.

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Speaker 1: I would read the thesis. I honestly, I'm not ashamed

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Speaker 1: Watch y'all watch like tune porn of any kind? Like

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842
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Speaker 1: Very bad idea to do this for my phone, But

843
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: like the other day, it was like just King Triton's whole,

844
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: just like hole and balls, because I had it saved

845
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: my cameral the bottom No, no, no, I mean in

846
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: this image, he they're kind of painting him as this

847
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: big daddy bottom um. But no, I don't think Triton

848
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: is the bottom. No, no, no, I think he's maybe

849
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: a sub top poor unfortunate holes that was low hanging fruit.

850
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: We had to fight for Goblin Dungeon. Yes, this is

851
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: The's what I'm saying when I say representation, honor your

852
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: queer elders. Who brought you Goblin Dungeons? Yeah? Who's the

853
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: anime boy who you have the biggest crush on? Yeah? Yeah,

854
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 1: good question. I would have to really think about that one.

855
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot of hot ones. I mean, like the

856
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: guy from kawee Bebop. Oh, yeah, he's gorgeous hot. They

857
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: all kind of like sometimes they start to look similar

858
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: with the big hair and like the Space person outfits

859
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: across different shows. But I know there's other ones. I

860
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: love Hako and Spirited Away. He's the dragon. I remember,

861
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: like when I first watched that, I was maybe in

862
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth grade, and I didn't really grasp the

863
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: plot because you know, I had undiagnosed a d h D.

864
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: But I feel like I was just like here for

865
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: Hako and the fact that he turned into a dragon,

866
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 1: which is also hot. Turning into animals. Are dragons of

867
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: any kind hot babes? Yeah, yeah, I would love to.

868
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: I look for that in a man. It would be

869
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 1: a nice feature. Yeah, the animals. I want my next

870
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: boyfriend to be an animal. Just kidding, are you as

871
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: a man not a river spirit? Yeah? How dare you?

872
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: Spirited Away is so good? It's amazing. The food in

873
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: it looks so delicious. You know what one dark confession

874
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: I have is that I remember getting really titlated by

875
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: the voice acting on Spirit of the Cimarron. The horse.

876
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what I'm going to I think it's

877
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: Matt Damon. Literally it's not. I believe it's Matt Damon.

878
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 1: They the people they get to dub. Some of Homie

879
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: Zaki's films is Aretes are hot, speak on that horses

880
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: are very hot, Housmanman Castle, Christian bale As Howl and

881
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: the Right. What are some of your favorite anime tropes?

882
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, um, I mean like the whole Young Today, Like, oh,

883
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm a really hot girl and I'm mad but you

884
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: love me, but I'm going to punch you every now

885
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: and then. Like that's such a trope. I really enjoy

886
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: um because like and even Gellian, it's Oscar obviously, like

887
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: she has the red hair and she's German and she's

888
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: a bit, and she's like, I'm really good at piloting

889
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: this robot, your pathetic shinji. Like I love there's this

890
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: one meme account that tweets every Saturday, like alone the

891
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: Saturday Night pathetic. I love Oscar every Saturday night. Yeah,

892
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: I love the I love the villain be like Nanny. Um.

893
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: I think that maybe part of what attracted me to

894
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: the world outside of like the thing that you said

895
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: rose about, like the fact that every character is feminine

896
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: kind of was like the world building, you know, like

897
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: I was like a drawer and like love to like

898
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: doodle and like think of characters and like build things

899
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: that you know were existed like a part of a

900
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: larger ecosystem, which is why I love Lord of the Rings.

901
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: We all love Loved the Rings, Yes we do. Yeah.

902
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: I think what you what you're touching on something is

903
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: like every time I've watched an anime, you feel very

904
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: dropped into the world. Um. And I I like stories

905
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: like that where um, they kind of take for granted

906
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 1: that you're smart enough to just sort of like pick

907
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: it up as you go along. Um And yeah, that

908
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: it's something that really works for me. I feel like

909
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: I do this exercise sometimes as like um with like

910
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: friends at parties or whatever, and I think we should

911
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: all do it now, Like, which pokemon are you do

912
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: most identify out in the original one fifty? Of course? Yeah,

913
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to need some help with this because I

914
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: just don't know a lot of JP and I will

915
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: I personally, I mean, I would love to know you're

916
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: taking this. I feel sometimes like a pony Ta, like

917
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: not like fully grown, but kind of radica. But the

918
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: thing is like pony Ti is like not um like

919
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: clumsy enough. Like so I'm trying to like, I don't know,

920
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: there's like an anime that's maybe a little more interesting. Yeah, well,

921
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think I'm like fully formed, you

922
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: know what I mean, has kind of the baby horse

923
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 1: kind of thing going on, but like aesthetically, I definitely

924
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: see it, especially now that you have the mullet. Yeah,

925
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: who social culturally? Like who is the most anxious pokemon?

926
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: Like what? Oh my god? No, there's so many other

927
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: so many anxious at that are having a bad time.

928
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: Let me say the whole thing Siduck is having headaches

929
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, signifies mental health issues maybe um

930
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: um oh Voltar no, not Voltur the way, guess volt

931
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: all lives in peril that he's going to explode and die. Well,

932
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: the most depressing one is Cuban obviously, Yeah, because he

933
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: wears the skulls his mom's skull, his mom his dead

934
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: mom's skull. Does that mean every time that Cuban is born,

935
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: his mom dies? Yeah? I got it. And then like

936
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: they make a Disney Channel original movie about you know how,

937
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: like you know, as Christie Cross and Romano would say,

938
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: you know how in de Coms. There in Decoms the

939
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: mom is always dead like every well every Disney property,

940
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: like mom has to be dead. Yeah, twitches um um

941
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: every Markana? Oh wait was Mary kay and Ashley? Is

942
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: that Disney? No, well every Markaane Ashley movie. It's like

943
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: it's always a single dad, Right, that's true. I feel

944
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: like that. And then parent Trump Yeah okay, so JP,

945
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: what which Pokemon would you mean? Probably Gang Gang Hunter,

946
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: you give gang or Energy because very mischievous, probably one

947
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: of the like the most like smart to like to

948
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: see like incisive, like cerebral Pokemon cute. Yeah, and he's

949
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: basically the little Purple Devil. Yeah, he's or I would

950
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: say Dragon Night because that's he's a big boy. Well, yeah,

951
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: he's a big boy dragon. I. I do love Gratini

952
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: as well, a little like gay word gay work, I do.

953
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: I think I'm looking I think you're more dragon night. Yeah,

954
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: I see that, and like gangar maybe like when you

955
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: get a little Yes, yeah, I see dragon e very

956
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: like the softness. I remember being very tickled by the

957
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: existence of needle Queen and needle King. I was actually

958
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: needle Queen. Who's the who's the one that comes of

959
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: four needle Queen? There was a weird gender thing. I

960
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: was thinking about Rose for nit Arena because she's like

961
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: a poison type and and but she's cute. Those are

962
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: like those are like the tinx ones because there's an

963
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: no in an all an Okay, JP, which pokemon do

964
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: you think I am? Oh my gosh, okay. Well, and

965
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: if this feels like a read, it's going to be

966
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: a problem. The Queen, the Queen, Okay, the Queen nit

967
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: Arena does have big naturals. Wait, like, JP, I'm going

968
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: to give you nine tails because she's spooky. Oh yeah,

969
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: and she's you know, sextually. Yeah, I see that. Oh

970
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 1: she's like a little fox kind of moment. Yeah, Okay,

971
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: very mystical ethereal but bad luck as well. Oh really,

972
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: what's she's She's like a witch fox kind of thing.

973
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, obsessed? Yeah yeah, she's the fiercest one

974
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: other one. How do I make this my whole personality?

975
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: Some do? Yeah, Twitter dot com. It's actually like a

976
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: lot of game in whose whole thing is just like Pokemon.

977
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: Ever knows that? Yeah? Or you know what Rose? Maybe

978
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: article know? Oh well, but okay, I'm also thinking about

979
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: Rose as a cancer and like her her like because

980
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: I feel like you're the first impression Rose gives is

981
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: usually like a fire type or a poison type, down down,

982
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: deep down, Rose, U are water, yes or maybe psychic?

983
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: But not Jinks? Who is canceled? Question Mark? It's it's

984
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: interesting to me. Have we had the Jinks reckoning yet

985
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: Jinks I think was canceled and because they reanimated her

986
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: without the kind of black face thing that's going on

987
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: with her as a Pokemon probably for the best, definitely,

988
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: and maybe vapourion or like a Lapris. Okay, the thing

989
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: about Lapris is she's sensitives stickle um hard to get

990
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: to know, Like, she's kind of the isn't she like

991
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 1: the locknest monster kind of Pokemon where she is like

992
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: never ever seen, but she has this like exterior shell

993
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: that is also like big on decase I want to

994
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: get you in trouble. Who's your least favorite Pokemon of

995
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: the mine? I mean maybe like like side Duck or

996
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: ditto side Duck. I don't like Side Up. He's incompetent,

997
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: but I guess he is kind of one of the

998
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: most powerful ones. No, he's not. He's well, he doesn't.

999
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: He's a He's a nice little boy with a headache. Okay, honestly,

1000
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: looking at side Duck, fran I think you might be.

1001
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:47,919
Speaker 1: I think how accurate that is. He's always worrying about

1002
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: I've definitely seen like when we're on vacation and you

1003
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: and I see you like making coffee in the morning.

1004
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: It's a little side uck energy. But I'm trying to

1005
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: create an itinerary for our vacation, and I'm like like

1006
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: clutching my head and being like, come on, there's so

1007
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: much to extract about, Like how you know, like animal culture,

1008
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: tune culture is like part of it, because like if

1009
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: you bring up Pokemon in any scenario of people of

1010
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: our age, we'll start talking about it again or like

1011
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: or like Kingdom Hearts or oh my god, Kingdom was

1012
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: just added to Smash Actually, oh yeah, isn't she isn't

1013
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: she the last person? Oh? Really? Oh my gosh there yeah. Yeah.

1014
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: Kingdom Hearts is the one where it's like all the

1015
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: different characters from all the different things together the funniest

1016
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: video game ever made, because it's like, it's these anime

1017
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: characters and they've infiltrated the world of Disney sort of,

1018
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: so they have to fight in different Disney themed worlds.

1019
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: So it's like Donald Duck and Goofy interacting with these

1020
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: anime kids and they have to go to like a

1021
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: Toy story world where this anime villain has stolen buzz

1022
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: Lightyear and they have to fight with Woody to get

1023
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: him back. Interesting, Okay, there are some credible There is

1024
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: a there is a clip where Goofy dies and um,

1025
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse and Sara and Donald Duck have to abandon

1026
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: the corpse to continue fighting whatever like villains they're fighting,

1027
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: and Mickey Mouse like, they'll pay for this. Well, sometimes

1028
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: you have to leave Goofy for dead and move on.

1029
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse has a sword. By the way, Goofy is

1030
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: the weak link. Unfortunately he's he's he's a nice himbo

1031
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: in that game. He's got his shield and he's really dumb,

1032
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: and Donald is the Mage. So it follows like these

1033
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: like um role play tropes where there's the Healer and

1034
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: there's the Warrior and there's the Wizard and all these

1035
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: Disney characters have to kind of fall into it because

1036
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: you know we're playing. Did you ever get into some

1037
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: dungeons and dragons everything? I just know that if I start,

1038
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: it will become at least a fourth of my personality

1039
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: that I can't let that happen to me. I only

1040
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: have so many I don't I don't want that to have.

1041
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: I want you to have a life. Thank you. Yeah.

1042
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: Like I've purposely avoided it, not because I don't think

1043
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: I would like it, but because I know I would

1044
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: like it and it's it's too much. But also like

1045
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: if you want to take that ride, I will chase

1046
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: that dragon with Yeah. That that is why I had

1047
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: to avoid you and magic cards growing up. You seem

1048
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: to have quite an important relationship with mew two. Yeah

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Speaker 1: you do, Yes, prominent Mexican American mewtwo. Um, I love

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Speaker 1: mew two. I think he's so funny. The idea of

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Speaker 1: mewtwo is hilarious to me. What about the idea of

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Speaker 1: mewtwo the thick thighs, I thought you were going to

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Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna be like, you know, evil old. Well,

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Speaker 1: like the fact that he would like immediately upon birth,

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Speaker 1: he was like, why did you do this to me?

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Speaker 1: And like killed everything? It was responsible. I think that's funny. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that he was relatable. Yeah, born into the world, Let

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Speaker 1: me destroy the planet and how dare you do this

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Speaker 1: to me? Bring me into existence? Okay, I did watch

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Speaker 1: Detective Pikachu though, and Mew two isn't evil and right,

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Speaker 1: oh he's not. He's the victim. Well, mew two exists

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Speaker 1: in a lot of different canons, I think, and like

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Speaker 1: in the actual games, he's just sort of another legendary Pokemon.

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Speaker 1: Only in that movie is he this like conniving mastermind.

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Speaker 1: He the clones all the Pokemon and can make storms

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Speaker 1: happen with his brain and it's it's quite camp. Actually,

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Speaker 1: that movie is amazing, and he's so powerful and the

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Speaker 1: only thing that can destroy him is his Twink counterpart.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Well, And also it must be said that

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Speaker 1: Herman Kane plagiarize MEW two. Really, yes, I didn't know

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Speaker 1: that Herman Kane, who is dead now um plagiarized in

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Speaker 1: a political speech MEW two speech at the end where

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Speaker 1: when he has his realization about it doesn't matter about

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Speaker 1: the origins or the circumstances of your birth. What matters

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Speaker 1: is what you do with the gift of life, and

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Speaker 1: that is what Herman Kane stole. And then later everyone

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Speaker 1: was like, did you just steal MW two heading? She's everywhere?

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Speaker 1: And then then you two killed him. There we go rightfully.

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