1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Alna. I've thought Julie Gacia, a lifelong educator and the 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: proud recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Today, it's 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: my great honor to wish Latino USA a very happy 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: thirtieth anniversary. Ucisi Magaskis for thirty years of informing, challenging 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: and inspiring us. That Lisi that is to all at 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: Latino USA. 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: This is Latino USA, the radio journal of News and 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: Kurturre Latino USC latin Latino USA. I'm Maria Inojosa. We 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: bring you stories that are underreported but that mattered to you, 10 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: overlooked by the rest of the media, and while the 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: country is struggling to deal with these, we listens to 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: the stories of black and Latino Studio United Latino Front, 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: a cultural renaissance organizing at the forefront of the movement. 14 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm Maria Ino Jossa or La Latino USA. Listener. Hey, 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: here's a show from Los Archivo's enjoy. 16 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: I loved seeing how people reacted when somebody was singing 17 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: stuff like that that would give you goose bumps or 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: like that kind of stuff. I want to be able 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: to do that. I still don't know if I do that, 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: but it was just something I've always wanted to do. 21 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 4: New chins. 22 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: From Fudromedia and PRX. It's Latino Usa. I'm Maria no 23 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: Josa today. Omar Apollo a rising star in the indie R. 24 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 5: And B scene. 25 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: Omar Apollo began making music on his own, teaching himself 26 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: chords from YouTube videos and honing his sound in an 27 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: attic in a small town in Indiana. His musical inspirations 28 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: transcend borders and cultures, reflecting his experience as a son 29 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: of immigrants from Guaalajara, Mexico, growing up deep in the Midwest. 30 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: The music of this twenty three year old Mexican American 31 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: artist courses with rich funk, sweet soul, and upbeat pop, 32 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: and his lyrics often flow seamlessly between English and Spanish. 33 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: Omar began performing music at house parties and open mics 34 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: in his hometown of Lake Station, Indiana. Then, in twenty seventeen, 35 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: while working at a fast food restaurant, Omar found his 36 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 2: first breakthrough on Spotify with the song you Got the 37 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: He then began receiving invitations to play at venues in 38 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: Chicago and eventually across the country. Almost four years later, 39 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: Omar has amassed more than one hundred million streams on 40 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: Spotify and has signed a recording deal with Warner Records. 41 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 2: Before the coronavirus pandemic brought the world to a halt, 42 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: Omar had relocated to Los Angeles after wrapping up nearly 43 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: two years of touring throughout North America, Asia, Australia. 44 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 5: And Europe. 45 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: When California went on lockdown, Omar decided to scrap everything 46 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: that he'd been working on, daring himself to turn Quarantine 47 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: into a lab of sonic experimentation. On this episode of 48 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: How I Made It, Omar takes us to the early 49 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: days of making music on bowered equipment and tells us 50 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: how he explored everything from funk music to corridos in 51 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: order to make his debut album, Apologno. 52 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: It was up Omar Apollo and I'm an artist from Yenna. 53 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 3: I'm from Lake Station, Indiana, where I grew up, so 54 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: I don't need a GPS to go around anywhere. It's 55 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: kind of very small. Everybody knows everybody type of thing. 56 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: There wasn't really much of a music scene, but I 57 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: would go to little events. I just wanted to perform. 58 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 5: I don't knew what you need. 59 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: The first bands that got me into music. There's a 60 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: band called the Internet and released album called Ego Death 61 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: when I was like seventeen. 62 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 5: Need for your thoughts on knowledginal Gar. 63 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: I remember I just listening to the album and then 64 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, I need to get a 65 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: guitar tomorrow. So after I heard that, I just went 66 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: to the pawn shop and got a guitar. My friend 67 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: let me borrow his bass. Then my other friend let 68 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: me borrow his interface. My first memory really of getting 69 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 3: started with music was in the garage. I had a 70 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: few friends who played. I was eighteen when I started performing. 71 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: After we started playing in Indiana, people were like, oh 72 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 3: you could play, Like come play over here. It was 73 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: just a hobby of something I did, but I wasn't 74 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: sure that it was going to happen. I made you 75 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: got me when he's seventeen, and I remember I was 76 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 3: by myself really and then I called my cousin because 77 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 3: he lived down the street, and I was like, Yo, 78 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 3: you gotta come through, fool, come listen to this song 79 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 3: I just made. He's like all right, I'm coming. He 80 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 3: pull up in his little Monte Carlo and then I 81 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: played it for him. He was just like, bro, what 82 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: like that's insane. Maybe there's something you know, but clearly 83 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: say I'm not good. 84 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 4: I think that I'm ben. 85 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: My friend was like, you gotta put it on Spotify, 86 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 3: and then I didn't have any money, so gave him 87 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: money to put it up and then got like playlisted 88 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: or something. I got on like three playlist or something, 89 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: and then I woke up and I had like all 90 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: these plays and I was like whoa. I was like, 91 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: that's crazy. I was like working on McDonald's and collected 92 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: in the work that day, and then my friend told 93 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 3: me the next day. He was like, yo, you gotta 94 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: you gotta put it on another one on you got 95 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 3: another one. I was like yeah, and then I had 96 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: break lights like ready to go. 97 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 4: Markers like cut right though. 98 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: So I wanted to get good at making music, so 99 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 3: I was just made it a bunch of songs a 100 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: month for like the whole summer, like thirty five songs 101 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: in a month, and I wouldn't put them out or nothing. 102 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: None of them ever came out. It's just on this 103 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: hard drive. Whether it was just an idea or like 104 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: or a full song or just a bunch of mumbles 105 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 3: or a bunch of harmonies. It was not until I 106 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 3: started like selling out shows that I was like, okay, yeah, 107 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: this is possible. So after I got off a tour, 108 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: I didn't like the music I had been making, and 109 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: I had this process, and I was just bored with 110 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: the process, and so I figured I needed to do 111 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: like a lot of different things, like try different things 112 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: in music. I had twenty five twenty seven songs or something, 113 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: and I was getting ready to put it together, you know, 114 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: release it. But then Quarantine happened, and yeah, it kind 115 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: of hit me. It made a lot of stuff I 116 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: wouldn't normally make. But I had just started using a 117 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: lot of pedals, and there was this one pedal in particular. 118 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: It's called the Mutron. It's like wow, wow, wow wow, 119 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: It's like whoah. 120 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 5: Wo won't. 121 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: Step you wanted to use it? Bootsy Collins use it, 122 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: George Clinton, everyone used it. I ordered it because I 123 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: was like, oh, we got money, now I can I 124 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: can order things. And then I woke up the next 125 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: morning after playing with it all night, and then like 126 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: made stay Back, and obviously it's very Booty Collins inspired. 127 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 3: Bootsy Collins is one of the pioneers of funk music. 128 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: He was the first one to like slow it down 129 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: and make this funk music that was sexy and slow. 130 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: I just kind of said the ideas to my managers 131 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: that it would be really cool for got Bootsy Collins 132 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: on this, so yeah, it would be so then I 133 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 3: just d M them and then then you like responded 134 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: and then uh, you heard the song and he was. 135 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 5: Down especially, and I'm thinking about you. 136 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: I feel like I still have a lot of things 137 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: that I want to do to like satisfy myself, and 138 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: I think I had the same feelings when I was 139 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: younger too. I played with the La Philharmonic recently and 140 00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 3: they learned this corrido called those that I made well corrido. 141 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: It's a Mexican style of music. It was just crazy 142 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: to hear, like I have the sheet music that transcribed 143 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 3: sheet music in my studio just because it's really cool 144 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: to look at you. I don't know, I've never looked 145 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 3: at music that way, and so it was just really 146 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 3: interesting to see people play along to it in a 147 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 3: very trained way. My earliest memory of a corrida was 148 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 3: probably my uncle's, my Theo's playing it in the living 149 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: room like two in the morning. Drunk, just singing. It's 150 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 3: just music that is nostalgic to me and the family. 151 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: And I'm telling the story of just my life Jesse 152 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 3: being from Indiana. That's talking about where I was from, 153 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: and then how people didn't take me serious because I 154 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: wanted to do something differ. Well, then the pre course, 155 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: I'm just talking about getting money. 156 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, one day. 157 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 5: Last I. 158 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 3: Honestly, getting money, I think is always the goal now 159 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: because I never thought about it on the way up. 160 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 3: I never thought about money when I didn't have it. 161 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: I was just thinking about music. I love music. And 162 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 3: now I'm like, oh, I want to have generational wealth 163 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: because it's never It's never ran in my family. You know, 164 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 3: we'd never had money in my family at all. And 165 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 3: then the second verse, I'm talking about how much I'm 166 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: making Now it's just this and all everyone who is 167 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: hating on me back home, and yeah, it's kind of toxic. 168 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 4: Paget go from me for La Jamara can compre Outlas diamonds, 169 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 4: So Baganda press barabras get remade. 170 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 6: Don't you. 171 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: See yoga makom pre. 172 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 3: I go back to Indiana, it just feels different. And yeah, 173 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 3: just seeing people that you knew and they know and 174 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 3: they know how you're doing. 175 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 4: Now, would you. 176 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: I changed every day? I changed this morning, I had 177 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 3: a breakthrough this morning. I changed every day. I think, 178 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: I think that Why would you stay the same? 179 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 2: That was R and B artist Omar Apollom. His debut 180 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: album Apollonio is out on all streaming platforms now. This 181 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: episode was produced by Julia Esparsa with help from Julia 182 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: Rocha and edited by Martha Martinez and mixed by Gabriel Lebiez. 183 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: The Latino USA team includes Andrea Lopez Brusado, Mike Sargent, 184 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: Victori Estrada, and Renaldo Leanos Junior, with help from Dorim Marquez. 185 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: Our director of Engineering is Stephanie Lebau. Our senior engineer 186 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: is Julia Caruso. Additional engineering support by jj Carubin. Our 187 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: marketing manager is Luis Luna. Our theme music was composed 188 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: by Zena Ruinos. I'm your host and executive producer Maria 189 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: jo Hosa. Join us again on our next episode. In 190 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: the meantime, keep up with us on social media. Iyatusaves 191 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: not Teva. 192 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 5: Yes Bye. 193 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 6: Latino USA is made possible in part by the Ford Foundation, 194 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 6: working with visionaries on the front lines of social change worldwide. 195 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 6: The Heising Simons Foundation Unlocking knowledge, opportunity, and possibilities more 196 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 6: at hsfoundation dot org. Funding for Latino USA is Coverage 197 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 6: of a culture of health is made possible in part 198 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 6: by a grant from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. 199 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: Can we get quiet? 200 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: Please? Please? Three minutes please? 201 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: One way to engender a lot of love from your family. 202 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: Okay too, one