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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome in side our three, The Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 1: with my best friend Mike Harmon. The Subtle come out tomorrow. Hey,

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Speaker 1: that's one. Sorry, buddy, they beat the White Hot sorr

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Speaker 1: hear you? Sorry? Yeah, yeah, yeah, jure. The Eastern Conference

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Speaker 1: Finals and the Western Conference Finals both sit at three

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Speaker 1: games to one after the Pacers. I don't think missed

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Speaker 1: a shot tonight in beating the Knicks one eighty seven

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Speaker 1: to one oh one. Ar least just seemed like it

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Speaker 1: was one eighty seven one one one one twenty one?

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Speaker 2: What wrong?

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Speaker 1: Is there? A prayer for either of the teams down

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Speaker 1: three to one to come back and make the NBA Finals?

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Speaker 1: Joining us now in the hotline nobody better Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: One NBA Insider extraordinay check out the On the Ball

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Speaker 1: podcast as well. He's on Twitter at Rick Buker. It

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Speaker 1: is Rick Buker. What's happening? Man? Make me happy?

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Speaker 3: Rick?

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Speaker 1: Tell me it's not over it. But even though I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it's over, I well.

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Speaker 3: I told you last week, last time we spoke, I

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Speaker 3: said they're going to get one.

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Speaker 1: That's true, It's true.

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Speaker 2: You did.

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Speaker 3: I did when you were you were doing gloom after

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Speaker 3: they lost the first two at home, and you were

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Speaker 3: it was like it's over, it's done.

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Speaker 4: I was like, it's not quite yet. Not quite yet,

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Speaker 4: you'll get one.

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Speaker 3: So you just need to go back and savor that one.

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Speaker 1: Just watch that you off season. Just watch game three?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, actually no.

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Speaker 4: You know what I could see.

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Speaker 3: I see a possibility in which they are which they

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Speaker 3: could potentially to a six game. I think that there's

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Speaker 3: enough grit with this team, and there's enough pride, and

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Speaker 3: then the difference between these two teams isn't isn't that great?

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Speaker 3: If Josh Hart would stop trying to throw it through

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Speaker 3: Indiana Pacers to get the.

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Speaker 4: Ball to it, it would go a long.

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Speaker 3: Way towards changing the outcome. But I mean, honestly, and

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Speaker 3: not to not to do a you know, a breakdown

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Speaker 3: of the entire series at this point. But I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think they're always going to look back at that

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Speaker 3: game one as as the turning point.

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Speaker 4: That certainly was for me.

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Speaker 3: I had the Knicks winning in seven, and when they

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Speaker 3: lost that, I was like, I don't I flipped it

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Speaker 3: to the Pacers back game.

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Speaker 1: For thirty years in the NBA, we're still look back

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Speaker 1: at the Reggie Miller choke game. We're gonna look back

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Speaker 1: at that game for thirty years. Rick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, when you say wean.

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Speaker 1: Fans, Nick, everybody, when Halliburton's kid is playing for the

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Speaker 1: Pacers in thirty years, remember this. And then before that

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Speaker 1: it was Red and Reggie Miller's going to be ninety

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Speaker 1: eight years old walking around Central Park going, remember I

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Speaker 1: was the one that started all of it. That's what's

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Speaker 3: You guys and Reggie Miller are going to live that

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Speaker 3: exact life. The rest of us are going to go

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: The thing that gets me, Rick is that, look, I

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Speaker 1: Get you can't lose a game one like that. It's

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Speaker 1: defensively because you still have Brunson and Towns that are

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Speaker 1: they have no response to it tonight. If the Pacers

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you're right, and a big part of that

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Speaker 4: He would find he.

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Speaker 3: Had about nineteen different ways to get Jermaine O'Neil the

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Speaker 4: So it's what Rick Carla has always been able to do.

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Speaker 3: They have a very high basketball IQ team and I

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Speaker 4: Exposed the most year. Uh And as a reason for the.

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Speaker 4: I think he knows what he's doing out there.

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Speaker 3: we've seen this with teams that end up going to

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Speaker 4: They make you beat them.

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Speaker 3: And and what we saw tonight is a microcosm of

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Speaker 6: Do you talk about the turnover total, but I mean,

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Speaker 6: I'd be remiss. I didn't, you know, address the elephant

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Speaker 6: in the room. Rick, how many points was John Halliburton worth?

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Speaker 3: In me? Lu Yeah, well, uh, obviously a lot when

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Speaker 4: But you know that's that. I just feel like the

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Speaker 3: Like a team of destiny in the same way that

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Speaker 1: But here's the one thing though, Rick, Okay, John Halliburton

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Speaker 4: Probably what it would now, I think they get for death.

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Speaker 3: I think TJ. McConnell would just step in and the

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Speaker 3: incredible the way he said, here's this, this is the

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Speaker 3: most this is the most troubling result of tonight's game

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Speaker 3: is we saw Tibbs go to his bench early and often,

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Speaker 3: and I can just see him after he says.

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Speaker 4: This is why I don't play. We're going to go back.

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Speaker 3: He's going to go back to playing playing four guys.

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Speaker 4: He's going to go the other direction. Evergan who said

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Speaker 1: True, I'm gonna have two outfielders play right in left

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Speaker 1: so weird that there's so many things wrong with a

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Speaker 1: next you and I say, you know what, if the

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Speaker 1: I mean, again, you're in the Eastern Conference Finals, but

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the question is gonna be that obviously there's a

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Speaker 4: Towns want to leave or does he want to stay?

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Speaker 3: Do something else. I'm with you, I don't think it's

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Speaker 4: Off his off his plate.

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Speaker 3: And if if you had more of a playmaking forward

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Speaker 4: And so.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure that they're going to swing for

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Speaker 3: Calvert's push that they would be better with kd and

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Speaker 3: it has to be somebody who's not just a pure scorer,

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Speaker 3: to ask for Jalen to play closer, mister clutch and

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Speaker 6: Let's switch to the other series because we've got fun

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Speaker 6: fun there, and Jason, I'll vouch for me. I've done

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Speaker 6: nothing but extole the virtues of lou Dort going back

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Speaker 6: many a year, so I appreciate defensive acumen and whatever else.

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Speaker 6: How's an that he Edwards so passive in a game

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, a big part of it is that

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Speaker 3: his game is not as mature as people want to

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Speaker 4: A big part of it is, And I've been asking

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Speaker 3: I'm like, why, if we're going to paint or label

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Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards as a superstar, why doesn't he have the

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Speaker 6: a take over a game and he can also make

433
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Speaker 6: other players better, and you saw that on full display

434
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Speaker 6: here and you have over the course of these Bloods has.

435
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Speaker 1: He has a couple of no show efforts. Absolutely has right.

436
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Speaker 6: He had a game in the Cleveland series where they

437
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 6: got drummed and he had four points. He's had a

438
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Speaker 6: little turned ankle here and there and rolling through, but

439
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Speaker 6: all of that to say, he's still on the comes.

440
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Speaker 6: So while it's too early to crown him, you recognize

441
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Speaker 6: the organizational strengths that you've put him in and you've

442
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Speaker 6: given him the best opportunity to succeed. That's really all

443
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 6: you can hope for. Right, He doesn't have to be

444
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 6: the guy with the weight of the world on his

445
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Speaker 6: shoulders like we watch with Jalen Brunts in every game,

446
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Speaker 6: like we watch when Bronson's in fall trouble or gets

447
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 6: his spell on the bench, that Karl Anthony Towns has

448
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Speaker 6: to pretty much do everything and occasionally, yeah, Josh Harder

449
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 6: or Ananobe will have a big night, but it's really

450
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 6: on the shoulders of those two guys with the pacers.

451
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Speaker 6: Haliburton's fantastic, but he doesn't have to bear that burden

452
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Speaker 6: just yet. Could he want to do that down the road?

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Speaker 1: Sure? Will Carlisle and company do that too? No?

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Speaker 6: No, I mean because they've built the perfect balanced roster

455
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Speaker 6: where they don't have to right now. You can get

456
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Speaker 6: out and run and get out and play. And you

457
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Speaker 6: got guys that'll spot up and shoot and shoot well

458
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Speaker 6: time and again. You got guys that will battle in

459
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Speaker 6: math and and turner for you. So you've got all

460
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Speaker 6: the other elements that give you a winning construct. But yeah,

461
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Speaker 6: in the moment, Yeah, Haliburton's gonna get all the love

462
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Speaker 6: in the world, right because we love the next great stories.

463
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 6: Why you know, Sga on the other side of the bracket.

464
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Speaker 6: For as much as folks want to talk about the

465
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Speaker 6: free throw merchant and whatever else, he controls games, right,

466
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Speaker 6: it's it's his invisible hand over the top of everything

467
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Speaker 6: else going on. And Halliburton on a night like tonight, yeah,

468
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 6: he forced the issue. Yeah, I give him all the

469
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Speaker 6: What he's done in this playoffs has been fantastic. It's

470
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Speaker 6: enough to make a legend he's done. But it's not

471
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Speaker 6: like he's doing it all by himself.

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Speaker 1: And the look, you don't make it all the way

473
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Speaker 1: to the Eastern Conference finals, one went away from the

474
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Speaker 1: NBA Finals. If you're a one player team, right, you see,

475
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Speaker 1: there's there's so many other of all the dagger moments

476
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Speaker 1: tonight like like Halliburton was terrific, But dagger moments from

477
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Speaker 1: Topping and dagger moments from Myles Turner, I mean kills you.

478
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Speaker 1: I mean really, I mean this is how you're winning

479
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Speaker 1: and and and I know that being prisoner of the

480
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Speaker 1: moment because I get it being because it's what we

481
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Speaker 1: do every night, is we're talking about it. But just

482
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Speaker 1: watching him play, Yeah, he's terrific. But I've seen him

483
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Speaker 1: play during the season. I've seen him play in another

484
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Speaker 1: playoff rounds, and he's not nearly as jacked up. He's

485
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Speaker 1: not nearly as motivated. You know, his dad comes back tonight,

486
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Speaker 1: and hey, you don't see any more evidence than that

487
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: the PACER's wait to bring his dad back and comes back.

488
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Speaker 1: Dad comes back to watch him play tonight. Look out good.

489
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Speaker 1: He is like, oh my goodness, Like he's jacked up

490
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Speaker 1: to play the Knicks. All the entire team is way

491
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Speaker 1: more jacked up to play the Knicks than they would

492
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Speaker 1: be playing the Celtics. At this point, they just are

493
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: and they're living that. Who else was jacked up? Chase,

494
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: you got jacked up? The Knicks got jacked up.

495
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Speaker 5: Knicks fans celebrating like they won the title after Game three,

496
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Speaker 5: they were jacked up.

497
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Speaker 1: All the Knicks and six next six Shala May and Stiller.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, dopes, Yeah you know, uh yeah, just set

499
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Speaker 6: me that before the game.

500
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Speaker 1: Look at these dopes. But like, let's get that that

501
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: the Pacers didn't come into this playoff being an overwhelming favorite.

502
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: Well they did. They were expected to come into the Okay,

503
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Speaker 1: maybe they get out of the first boy Pacers Bucks

504
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: will be interesting, but they're gonna go home to the cop.

505
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: They're on a big heater right now. It's all working

506
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Speaker 1: at his magic. Dude, you've been your team has been

507
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: home for a month now, Okay, just understand that my

508
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: team is better than your team. Hey, he had past

509
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Speaker 1: the Celtics. I know, I know, he's ghost. Just stop.

510
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: You couldn't smoke the teams and getting smoked by thunder

511
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: Dick's Uh, there's four teams left and where one of them?

512
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Speaker 1: Your you?

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Speaker 5: Two weeks ago, your team was out two two rounds

514
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 5: ago series and is not going to be close.

515
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Speaker 1: Your team was out two rounds ago. This is like

516
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: if you and I are having a drinking contest and

517
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: it's like your year passed out? What Frostburg passed out? Yeah?

518
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: That was like four rounds ago. He passed, I'm still going,

519
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: still going. Yeah, opening not that I recommend having drinking contact,

520
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: No that, don't do that. And it was light. Don't

521
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Speaker 1: have service announced, don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Pacers were fifty to one before the season to hoist

525
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Speaker 1: the title, and.

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Speaker 5: Then it was like five hundred to one against the Knicks.

527
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 5: You would have thought listening to uh somebody.

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Speaker 1: Last week, you know yeah, uh again, Knicks were sixteen

529
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: to one. You said, be careful what you wish for.

530
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: I had no choice in who the Knicks were playing

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Speaker 1: in this round. I had absolutely no choice. Well, but

532
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: you did talk a big game. We got something waiting

533
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, yeah, I thought, But now apparently, but

534
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: you know what they said. Rick Carlisle said, oh wait,

535
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Speaker 1: I'm going to out coach your coach and that's how

536
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: this is gonna go. Oh all right, then, okay, you

537
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: see this guy Nie Smith, he's over here. I mean, really,

538
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: the Pacers are pulling different heroes out all the time,

539
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: right Nie Smith, siakam top And they're pulling heroes out

540
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: all the time, where the Knicks every time down the court,

541
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Speaker 1: it's a drop of blood to get to get a

542
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Speaker 1: But say this thud, like the Obie top and three

543
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: point shot. You take a dunk, you take a big rebound,

544
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Speaker 1: you take a.

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Speaker 6: Block shot, Obi top and finding himself at the top

546
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 6: of the key for an open three, Like that's the

547
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Speaker 6: the entire NBA Gods. However, many of them there are

548
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 6: lower case g They're all laughing and pointing at the

549
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Speaker 6: knicks at that point when Obie's up and getting a

550
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 6: three point shot, that pretty much puts the game permanently

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Speaker 6: out of reach.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's not suddenly a top five MB when

553
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Speaker 1: he plays the next Yeah. Well, unfortunately lots of guys

554
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: are because they get all jacked up to go play

555
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Speaker 1: the next.

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Speaker 6: I'm like everything, you find your motivation, right, you find

557
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 6: your wins. You've got teams you coached against. Maybe you

558
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 6: didn't like the coach, maybe didn't like uh, you know

559
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 6: one of the players on the other squad played a

560
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 6: little bit and only with the in the boundaries, uh,

561
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Speaker 6: and stretch the rules and forced the official makes the decisions.

562
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Speaker 6: You didn't like them, but they raised their game and

563
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 6: they got in your head and you had to change.

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Speaker 6: Saying for Halliburton right now, he's that guy. For Tom

565
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Speaker 6: Thibodeau vexing him to where the last of those hairs.

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Speaker 1: Going, Burton vexing him, or his Nie Smith vexing him

567
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: or vexing him right, or is Mathron vexing him off

568
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Speaker 1: the bench?

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Speaker 6: Well, Mathron vexes everybody because you're afraid one of your

570
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Speaker 6: guys ain't getting up while vexing like all those get

571
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Speaker 6: ata me looks more and more like Robert Carlisle to

572
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Speaker 6: me today. Every time he shows up in the replay

573
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Speaker 6: of his presser or a little bit of shots off

574
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Speaker 6: the sideline there, I'm keep waiting for him to, you know,

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Speaker 6: pull out a line or two from the full Moni

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Speaker 6: or something at her exit out about a Fresca exit.

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Speaker 1: Swallen Dome, Jason Smith, Mike Carmon live from the Fox

578
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio studios, time out to find out what's trending

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Speaker 1: in the wide world of sports. So someone who's been

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Speaker 1: called the Benedict Mathren of Fox Sports Radio, he has

581
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Speaker 1: a lot of work done in a very short amount

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Speaker 1: of time. It's Steve Disager.

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Speaker 7: Oh it's better than being the Benedict Darnold, a Fox

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Speaker 7: Sports ron.

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Speaker 1: You know Ben Addono who took command of the United

586
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Speaker 1: States Navy in seventeen eighty and then was buried after

587
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Speaker 1: he died in London.

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Speaker 7: That's right, because he kind of took their side.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, he had a good run.

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Speaker 7: I've seen the Brady bunch. Okay, all right, very good,

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Speaker 7: very good.

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Speaker 1: We actually had that question at trivia on Sunday and

593
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: we were like, boy, I don't know who it is.

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Speaker 1: You know. They play a music clue and we're like,

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Speaker 1: I'm going, oh, boy took command of the Navy in

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Speaker 1: seventeen eighty, buried in London, thinking is it Lafayette. No,

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Speaker 1: We're thinking about Hamilton going back. And then they play

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Speaker 1: Eggman by the Beastie Boys, which I know every word

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Speaker 1: to and I'm wrapping along to it and I'm going,

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Speaker 1: what digger, what's the song? It's Eggman by the Beastie Boys,

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Speaker 1: and he goes, oh, Benedict Arnold, Benedict bened Dedtona got

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Speaker 1: it right, and I'm going egg Man. We all dressed

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Speaker 1: in black. We stuck up around the back. We began

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Speaker 1: two attacks and I'm handing up the papers. I'm dancing

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Speaker 1: up to the guy. He's like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: This is egg Man? It's egg Man.

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Speaker 7: That is a circuitous route to the correct answer, but hey, correct,

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Speaker 7: it's correct, and you know, ap points out for this

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Speaker 7: NBA postseason. This is the third straight playoffs in the

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Speaker 7: NBA where both conference finals are at three games to

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Speaker 7: one at this point, or simply a four game sweep

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Speaker 7: already at this point. We'll talk NBA right now, get

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Speaker 7: to the NFL news of the day in a moment.

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Speaker 7: But the Pacers are up three games to one in

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Speaker 7: the Eastern Conference Finals after beating New York again one

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Speaker 7: thirty to one twenty one Tyrese Haliburt not only with

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Speaker 7: a triple double, it included fifteen assists and no turnovers.

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Speaker 7: Teammate pass goal Siakam with thirty points, Jalen Brunson thirty

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Speaker 7: one points in defeat. All five WNBA games are finals

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Speaker 7: wins for Phoenix in Atlanta in a battle of zero

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Speaker 7: and four teams, Dallas won at Connecticut and former Yukon

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Speaker 7: star Paige Becker's for Dallas twenty one points, New York's

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Speaker 7: four to oh after beating up Golden State Minnesota five

624
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Speaker 7: and oh. After a narrow win against Seattle in the

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Speaker 7: NHL playoffs, Edmonton up three games to one in the

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Speaker 7: West Final after beating Dallas four to one. Edmonton in

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Speaker 7: the last three games has outscored the Stars thirteen to two.

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Speaker 7: Out of the NFL, pass rusher Joey Bosa, now with

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Speaker 7: the Bills, is likely out until training camp with a

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Speaker 7: caf in.

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Speaker 1: Oh, come on, don't lie to me. He's not. Come on,

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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa doesn't get hurt.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: The guy's an iron man.

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Speaker 7: Actually, he was hurting a team workout last week, hurt

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Speaker 7: before OTAs for crying out loud. Buffalo running back James

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Speaker 7: Cook did not report for voluntary workouts wanting a new contract.

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00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 7: Also missing the start of OTAs, Falcons quarterback Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 7: and tight end Kyle's. Steelers linebacker TJ. Watt did not attend,

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Speaker 7: and Yes, Bucks defensive end Hassan Reddick was missing. Twenty

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Speaker 7: teams opened OTA's five other teams start Wednesday. Cleveland signed

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Speaker 7: first round defensive tackle Mason Graham. The Lions signed linebacker

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Speaker 7: Zat Cunningham. Elected into the Broncos Ring of Fame wide

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Speaker 7: receiver Damarius Thomas, who passed away in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 7: The Colt Jerseys will have a patch to honor their

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Speaker 7: late owner, Jim ers Coco goffswe after first round match

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Speaker 7: at the French Open. American Jessica pagoul also advanced. Novak Djokovic,

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Speaker 7: seated sixth, won his first rounder in late night Major

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Speaker 7: League Baseball Action Everything's Final, the Padres took the late game,

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Speaker 7: even though San Diego trailed the Marlins six to nothing

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Speaker 7: in the top of the first. Padres win eight to

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Speaker 7: six over Miami. Pittsburgh trailed six nothing going to the

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Speaker 7: sixth inning and won nine to six at Arizona seven

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Speaker 7: runs top of the eighth for the Pirates. Corbin Burns

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Speaker 7: no decision. He allowed just two runs in seven innings

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Speaker 7: for the Dbacks. Seattle over Washington nine to one. Cow

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Speaker 7: Raley of the Mariners hit his eighteenth and nineteenth home

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Speaker 7: runs of the season. Mariners are first in the ALS

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Speaker 7: game and a half over Houston, which won eleven to

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Speaker 7: one against the A's Hunter Brown having a great season

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Speaker 7: on the mound for the Astros seven and three ERA

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Speaker 7: of two. He had eight strikeouts in six innings in

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Speaker 7: this one, and the Yankees held on three to two.

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Speaker 7: At the Angels, it was three to nothing in the ninth.

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Speaker 7: Carlos Rodin. Rodin is seven and three now seven scoreless innings,

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Speaker 7: ten strikeouts.

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Speaker 1: Tonight.

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Speaker 7: The Yankees have won fifteen of the last nineteen games

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Speaker 7: they've played. The Cubs with two in the bottom of

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Speaker 7: the eleventh beat Colorado four to three. The Rockies are

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Speaker 7: zero to eighteen in series so far this season. Milwaukee

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Speaker 7: on a grand slam in the tenth from Christian Yelich

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Speaker 7: beat Boston five to one. Wins for Philadelphia and the Dodgers.

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Speaker 7: Sho heo tani is twentieth Homer back to you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Steve. The Jason Smith Show with My best

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Speaker 1: friend Mike Harbon Live the Fox Sports A Radio Studios.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, we got a big basketball story that

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Speaker 1: broke today. We've been spending a lot of time talking

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Speaker 1: about this for a week and it turns out it

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Speaker 1: didn't happen. That's next Fox.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best

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Speaker 1: friend Mike Harmon. Yeah, we'll get back to the next

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Speaker 1: funeral coming up in about ten minutes. They had a

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Speaker 1: good run. Yeah, well yeah, yeah, I agree, yeah yeah, yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I had zero expectation coming into this postseason. Here we

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Speaker 1: are still alive, at least for one more day. But

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Speaker 1: this big story today out of the WNBA, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's crazy because you could see this coming and it's

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Speaker 1: just been a week of bad publicity for something that

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Speaker 1: should have never gone this far. The WNBA announced today

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Speaker 1: that they are unable to verify any hateful fan comments

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Speaker 1: towards Angel Reese stemming from the incident that took place

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Speaker 1: between the Sky and the Fever game opening day in

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Speaker 1: the WNBA. I remember, going back to WNBA game, Angel

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Speaker 1: Reese pushes a Fever player in the back, doesn't get

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Speaker 1: called for a foul. Caitlin Clark, a little upset, grabs

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Speaker 1: Angel Reese going up with the basketball. Angel Reese tries

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Speaker 1: to flop call, you know, get a foul, is upset.

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Speaker 1: She probably hit the deck, gets up to get in

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark's face. Caitlyn Clark walks away from her, and

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Speaker 1: it became a thing, and there were social media reports

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Speaker 1: that said, oh hey, bad things are being said towards

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Speaker 1: Angel Reese after this happened, And as soon as this happened,

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Speaker 1: the WNBA put out a statement saying we're gonna look

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Speaker 1: into it. The Sky put out a statement saying there's

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Speaker 1: no place for this in the game. The Fever put

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Speaker 1: out a statement saying there's no place for this in

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Speaker 1: the game, and the WNBA looked into it right right away.

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Speaker 1: You heard a lot of people saying I didn't see it.

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Speaker 1: Dave Portnoy was very big saying I didn't hear anything

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Speaker 1: said like this. I didn't hear this going on. And

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Speaker 1: they come out today and say they couldn't find anything.

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Speaker 1: Quote based on information gathered, including from relevant fans, team

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Speaker 1: and arena staff, as well as audio and video review

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Speaker 1: of the game, we have not substantiated it. And this

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Speaker 1: goes to show you what I've said about the W

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Speaker 1: from the beginning is still something they're dealing with in

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Speaker 1: year two ac after Caitlyn is that the biggest thing

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Speaker 1: for the W is you got to be able to

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Speaker 1: handle success. Right. You've been a league that's been trying

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Speaker 1: to break through for a long time. You've done a

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Speaker 1: lot of great things. You all of a sudden, you

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Speaker 1: break through because Caitlyn Clark shows up. She's the biggest

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Speaker 1: star in sports, and you've had a great instances of

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Speaker 1: growth you've also had a lot of controversy that you

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Speaker 1: really don't need, and really you don't want the racial controversy.

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Speaker 1: You can't have that, that's the one thing you want.

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Speaker 1: You can have rivalries you have about basketball, you can

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Speaker 1: have players hate each other, but boy, when you have

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Speaker 1: people break along racial lines, that's not good man. That's

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Speaker 1: not something that sells in twenty twenty five. So be

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Speaker 1: able to handle success. And what did the WNBA do?

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Speaker 1: What happened after the social media ran and made the

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Speaker 1: WNBA investigate something. The WNBA should have come out right

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Speaker 1: away and said, okay, we've heard this, we're looking into

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Speaker 1: it about guys, don't worry about it. We got it,

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Speaker 1: we're looking into it. Couldn't find anything, Okay, boom, moving on.

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Speaker 1: But instead, oh here we come out with a statement.

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Speaker 1: Of course you're against it, of course everybody's But now

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Speaker 1: you've legitimized this story that, oh, here's somebody who said

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Speaker 1: something when you didn't know if it happened. And now

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Speaker 1: this looks like again a bunch of people on social

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Speaker 1: media who maybe was just saying it because they wanted

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Speaker 1: to back angel Reees, because they were angel rees fans

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Speaker 1: didn't like the fact that the foul happened, whatever it was,

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Speaker 1: you allowed social media to push forth a bad storyline

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Speaker 1: for you for the last week. Right, the w really

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Speaker 1: needs to show that we have everything up. We're a

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Speaker 1: big deal. We're a big entity now, all right, we

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Speaker 1: know what we're doing and we have confidence and we

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Speaker 1: were able to keep every keep a lid on everything

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Speaker 1: we have going on that could be bad. But I

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Speaker 1: have not seen that now because again, you just watched

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Speaker 1: people on Twitter saying stuff and now here's a big investigation,

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Speaker 1: here's big statements in here. Seven days of bad publicity

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Speaker 1: that the league didn't need.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I would love to see some more substance to

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Speaker 6: what actually invest was investigating. How many people you talk to,

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Speaker 6: the fact that you had the sky coach say, hey,

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Speaker 6: we ask directly, you know, when did you become aware

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Speaker 6: of what allegedly happened during the game? Quote when everyone

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Speaker 6: else did. I think it's something that we heard about.

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Speaker 6: And so we're just forthcoming with anything that the league

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Speaker 6: is able to do investigation wise, and obviously everybody is

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Speaker 6: going to denounce such activity and words and that. But

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Speaker 6: when we came on air on the Monday after the game, right,

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Speaker 6: you saw the big effort from Caitlin Clark triple double.

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Speaker 6: But obviously that play and then this allegation becomes the flashpoint. Well,

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Speaker 6: there was no reaction from any player, and it's loud, right,

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Speaker 6: there's no being able to, I guess prove the negative

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Speaker 6: in this case. I mean, you can't say one hundred

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Speaker 6: percent it didn't happen. But if it was as loud

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Speaker 6: and vocal and directed an Angel Reese that no teammate,

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Speaker 6: nobody off the bench, no officials, nobody off the fever like,

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Speaker 6: nobody heard it like in that moment, right, and again

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Speaker 6: somebody we would would.

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Speaker 1: Have said something if it was said right there, we

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Speaker 1: will by Monday.

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Speaker 6: I mean that's forty eight hours later, nothing and then

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Speaker 6: it takes another several days before you get to an

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Speaker 6: endgame and you come out with the state, Yeah, well

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Speaker 6: we got nothing, and so you breathed a lot of

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Speaker 6: life into it. And for a game that's trying to

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Speaker 6: make strides and grow, these are huge setbacks because you're

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Speaker 6: you're picking up things off social media.

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Speaker 1: You're you're losing control of the narrative is what you're doing,

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Speaker 1: and it's really dangerous and w you you got to

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Speaker 1: grow up and say yeah, we can handle our business.

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Speaker 1: You got to handle six handle it. We'll have more

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Speaker 1: on this story coming up next hour. Another wrangle to it,

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Speaker 1: want to get to but also we get back to

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Speaker 1: the biggest story of the night, which is the next

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Speaker 1: funeral fu