Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
Speaker 2: my name is Noah.
Speaker 3: They call me Bed.
Speaker 4: We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the
Speaker 4: Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are you. You are here.
Speaker 4: That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.
Speaker 3: This is a this is a cool one for us.
Speaker 3: You guys.
Speaker 4: We were lucky enough not just to perform live in
Speaker 4: international waters, but to also record our long awaited exploration
Speaker 4: of the Bermuda Triangle. And we just want in touch base,
Speaker 4: let you know what you're getting into before where you
Speaker 4: hear the tape.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know how Virgin Voyage was okay with this.
Speaker 6: You know, we're not really the fear bombering type, but
Speaker 6: there is something to be said about exploring disappearances, famous
Speaker 6: disappearances of seafaring vessels and air craft all around this
Speaker 6: particular geographical region that we were in fact sailing through.
Speaker 7: Yes, and to put your mind in the space where
Speaker 7: we are as listeners of this episode. You go into
Speaker 7: a large place called the Red Room, which is already intriguing.
Speaker 4: Right, not related to Black Widow, No, Twin Peaks, that's
Speaker 4: the Red Lodge, but similar.
Speaker 5: No, the Red Room is the thing with the curtains
Speaker 5: and carry on.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's a phenomenal venue. It's huge, and we have
Speaker 4: these ginormous that's technical term screens behind us with some
Speaker 4: excellent video work by none other than our own mister
Speaker 4: Matt Frederick. We've got a lively crowd of like five
Speaker 4: hundred something people who could have done any number of
Speaker 4: other things, right because we're right next to a casino
Speaker 4: as we're recording.
Speaker 5: Yep, I canna talk about that.
Speaker 6: I think Ben's alterigo did a little better than there
Speaker 6: than I did, But you know what, it's all for fun.
Speaker 6: It's all for funzies. And shout out to the crew
Speaker 6: there at the Red Room, Victor Legend one percent. Just
Speaker 6: I think this is the highest production one of the
Speaker 6: highest production value type of live shows that we've ever
Speaker 6: gotten to do. And Matt Hughes, shout out to you
Speaker 6: for prepping those incredible moving backdrop images as well as
Speaker 6: cutting what you have done in the past on Bermuda Triangle,
Speaker 6: an old YouTube episode from the early stuff they don't
Speaker 6: want you to know days that really held up other
Speaker 6: than I think you mispronounced the word bimini bimini.
Speaker 3: We talked about of backstage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mispronounced the word and I called it bemani
Speaker 4: in my original research.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, hilariously honest mistake.
Speaker 6: It was just funny because we've been saying it a
Speaker 6: bunch and we almost didn't notice it until we heard
Speaker 6: it and they were like.
Speaker 5: Oh, that's not how we've been saying.
Speaker 3: It, right, Do check that out.
Speaker 4: Do forgive my mispronunciation there as well intentioned, but we
Speaker 4: do pronounce bimini, bimini bimini correctly in our live shows.
Speaker 4: So where this is going to pick up, folks, is
Speaker 4: going to be right after our original YouTube video and
Speaker 4: the Bermuda Triangle plays and we walk out into the
Speaker 4: breach and we immediately start yelling about the Bermuda Triangle
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Speaker 4: You can turn back now or learning the stuff they
Speaker 4: don't want you to know. Oh my god, you guys.
Speaker 7: Hello, Hello, there's too many of you in here.
Speaker 2: We have a problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess now we have to do a good job.
Speaker 5: I guess we'll do our level best.
Speaker 8: So we are Ben, Matt and Noel stuff they don't
Speaker 8: want you to know. And before we get started, we
Speaker 8: thought we would play a little bit of a game.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we're gonna point this way right. If you're
Speaker 3: on this.
Speaker 4: Side when we point to you, we want you to
Speaker 4: all yell out triangle.
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's try it. That's good.
Speaker 5: Okay, send no nuts, that's good.
Speaker 3: And if you're on this side.
Speaker 5: Can you guess we're gonna yell for mute? Okay on cue?
Speaker 9: Yeah, sorry, we'll workshop that.
Speaker 5: I get why people like sports. That's fun fun, right.
Speaker 7: Was anybody at the summoning ritual that we all performed
Speaker 7: last night on the top of the ship during the thunderstorm.
Speaker 3: All dressed in red gigantic octopus? Yeah, it was like.
Speaker 6: The password was Fidelia's totally cool.
Speaker 3: Totally cool.
Speaker 4: We want to be honest with you for for two
Speaker 4: thirds of us from Nola myself, this is not only
Speaker 4: our first virgin voyage, this is our first cruise ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of get the appeal.
Speaker 6: I kind of get like it wasn't maybe something that
Speaker 6: I would have done on my own.
Speaker 5: But now I think I'm cruise coded.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a cruise pilled.
Speaker 5: That's the term.
Speaker 2: It's a problem.
Speaker 7: I'm already budgeting out for the next three years. Yeah,
Speaker 7: to spend at seat. So give us, give us a woo.
Speaker 7: If this is also your first virgin cruise.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a lot of the woo's habit.
Speaker 4: Whose habits is just in Uh so, Uh, there's one
Speaker 4: more shout out we wanted to give. We've had such
Speaker 4: a great time Matt Noll and myself hanging out meeting
Speaker 4: some people. I said, I know, I see a couple
Speaker 4: faces in the crowd who watched me drunkenly lose at blackjack.
Speaker 4: We're all still friends. Uh, but we learned, you guys
Speaker 4: that a lot of people are here because they had
Speaker 4: a birthday.
Speaker 5: Okay this week.
Speaker 4: So if you had a birthday this week or you
Speaker 4: have one coming up right, Wow, if you had a
Speaker 4: birthday today, let's hear a whoo.
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right for sure for the way, and happy birthday, brother, Yes,
Speaker 8: so on the counter of three, we're all going to
Speaker 8: wish each other a happy birthday.
Speaker 3: Okay, one, two, three.
Speaker 6: Happy birthday to all of us, even those whose birthday
Speaker 6: is it.
Speaker 3: Is not happy birthday at some point.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, speaking of time, that video guys just watched,
Speaker 7: that's from like twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: We made that.
Speaker 5: We didn't know how to pronounce the word bimini.
Speaker 2: We had just read bunch. Okay, this was before my time.
Speaker 2: They made a ton of those videos.
Speaker 4: So and now we have united here, not just the
Speaker 4: three of us, not just our super producer Dylan the
Speaker 4: Tennessee Palfega.
Speaker 3: Yes, we forgive you for being handsomer than the three
Speaker 3: of us.
Speaker 5: Okay, I can not forget you for that him that, and.
Speaker 4: We're also we considered you part of our show. You're
Speaker 4: a fellow conspiracy realists.
Speaker 3: You have given us your time. We're going to share
Speaker 3: it together.
Speaker 4: And when we first started talking about this idea, guys,
Speaker 4: we looked around and we said, wait, have we never
Speaker 4: done an episode on the Buda Triangle?
Speaker 5: Yeahs fars the background.
Speaker 6: The show started off as a video only YouTube series
Speaker 6: back when when was that like in two thousand nine,
Speaker 6: when it was still called like what iTunes video or
Speaker 6: something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it was. We were number one on
Speaker 2: itubes video. I mean, come on, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: So we've been at it for a while, but then
Speaker 5: it became an audio podcast. We've been doing that for
Speaker 5: a low decade plus somehow. Only that video is the
Speaker 5: only time we've ever talked about Bermuni trying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy, and we we've explored so much stuff, but
Speaker 4: like the rest of humanity, and this is true, we've
Speaker 4: got a lot more exploration to.
Speaker 3: Do in the ocean.
Speaker 4: We talked about this fact all the time. You guys
Speaker 4: probably know it, but human civilization right now knows more
Speaker 4: about the moon than they do about the bottom of
Speaker 4: the ocean.
Speaker 5: Except for James Cameron, who knows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's put in the times. Thank you James, there's James.
Speaker 5: Congrats on Avatar thirteen.
Speaker 9: Ye.
Speaker 3: Do we want to talk about some of the experiences.
Speaker 7: Okay, so, just as a fairly new cruiser, what it
Speaker 7: was the term one who cruises.
Speaker 3: Sor sailor.
Speaker 5: Preferred nomenclature of virgin cruises.
Speaker 7: As we drink, I imagine that all of us now
Speaker 7: have had that experience when we go out on the
Speaker 7: top deck and you're just standing there and you're just
Speaker 7: looking out at what our eyes can only understand as
Speaker 7: infinite water, infinite sky, some clouds, maybe one boat, but
Speaker 7: mostly just the best thing our mind could come up with.
Speaker 2: Infinity.
Speaker 5: Right, Well, it's like when we were doing it together.
Speaker 5: I think I pointed out there, like I get why
Speaker 5: back in the day people thought the.
Speaker 6: World was just going to end at some point. Yes,
Speaker 6: it tracks like the phenomenon of experiencing it.
Speaker 7: I can totally feel that absolutely, And then we have
Speaker 7: to imagine it's not just out and up, it's also down.
Speaker 3: It goes super deep. We don't know much about it.
Speaker 4: We do know that we're all here together live in
Speaker 4: the actual Bermia Triangle we did, Jimmy, don't get mad.
Speaker 4: We didn't know whether we would be able to do
Speaker 4: this show, but we've been fascinated by this. We thought
Speaker 4: this is the best place to explore this.
Speaker 3: So one of our first questions is what do we
Speaker 3: think about when we think about the Bermuda Triangle? Right,
Speaker 3: miss mystery, I mean triangles.
Speaker 5: Shapes mainly shape, yeah, crashes, that stuff.
Speaker 4: Extraterrestrials, aliens, ghosts, aliens, sea monsters, aliens.
Speaker 6: That one episode of Scooby Doo from nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 6: It was called a creepy tangle in the Bermuda triangle.
Speaker 6: Then we're skeleton people involved. Yeah, that's really your main
Speaker 6: source about learning about this topic. And no attention to
Speaker 6: Scooby do Scooby Doooby doo, where are you triangle?
Speaker 3: That's you Ferm.
Speaker 2: I think about what was.
Speaker 7: That Philadelphia experiment? Or there was something we did an
Speaker 7: episode on a long time ago, adults.
Speaker 4: For dimensional travel creating cream cheese. Yes, so we maybe
Speaker 4: we're getting carried away. We know this. We talked to
Speaker 4: a lot a lot of our fellow sailors, and everybody
Speaker 4: has an idea, has a theory, as we'll lure tonight.
Speaker 4: We actually went and spoke with the captains themselves, the
Speaker 4: captain and the deputy captain.
Speaker 3: Let's give it up for them.
Speaker 2: Whoa, they're not there fearing the ship and stuff. So
Speaker 2: somebody steering right, somebody is there, auto.
Speaker 5: I don't know how it works.
Speaker 3: Let's move Okay, Yeah we did.
Speaker 4: We did check to see if we could curse a
Speaker 4: little bit in this show, so I'll break the seal here.
Speaker 3: Those guys are so fun. So they're like firefighters also doctors.
Speaker 5: They wear absolutely stunning.
Speaker 2: I love seeing around and that air of like a
Speaker 2: little dangerous. You know, it's just a little dangerous. They
Speaker 2: got good hands.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're talking to it and obviously they're taller
Speaker 3: than me, both of them.
Speaker 2: And they're like, yeah, okay, good, We're gonna be fine.
Speaker 4: So we also think we've heard about time travel theories.
Speaker 4: We've also heard about crime.
Speaker 5: The True anybody got in any of the other live
Speaker 5: podcast events?
Speaker 6: Yeah, this this, this episode is gonna be a little
Speaker 6: less murdery, So consider it a bit of a pali.
Speaker 5: But we love our fellow podcast Oh the Trail and
Speaker 5: Buried Bones. Shout out to all of those amazing folks.
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna out with myself. I've kind of embarrassed
Speaker 2: myself a couple of times. I've been walking around to
Speaker 2: some of you and just going, do you guys really
Speaker 2: understand who Paul Holes is?
Speaker 4: Like this?
Speaker 5: He's a lot of a big deal.
Speaker 6: Hang on a sec, let's take a quick pause here,
Speaker 6: step away from this live show. Here are worth more
Speaker 6: sponsor and then we'll be right back from the red room.
Speaker 5: And we're back.
Speaker 3: So we do a bunch of shows.
Speaker 4: This is one of our favorite shows because now we
Speaker 4: get to talk about true crime, we get to talk
Speaker 4: about mystery and allegations and paranormal This is kind of
Speaker 4: like true extraterrestrial Prime or maybe extra true terrestrial crime.
Speaker 5: It's not terrestrial, it's on the scene.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's the planet.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 4: So the pitch for the Bermuda triangle, it's something that
Speaker 4: we have been obsessed with ever since we were wee
Speaker 4: young tights and just date us a little bit here
Speaker 4: before podcasts.
Speaker 3: We're a thing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: We're talking like those time life books.
Speaker 2: Encyclopedia Britannica, but on a bookshelf.
Speaker 3: Our coffee table.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the pitches that multiple ships and planes over
Speaker 4: decades or over centuries have gone missing, no wreckage, no survivors,
Speaker 4: no explanation.
Speaker 5: Of a poof situation, yeah, or pop situation a po.
Speaker 4: The Sargasso Sea hungers, they sing, right, and every so
Speaker 4: often it consumes the unweary vessel. So that's the pitch,
Speaker 4: right for true believers. Uh, it appears there are numerous
Speaker 4: examples to back up this legend.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Maybe we talked about a few of the most famous,
Speaker 4: which we saw in our our video right the.
Speaker 3: Video before the video, the video before the video there was.
Speaker 5: That was so the first amazing video that Mapp put together.
Speaker 3: This is all Matt Frederick. By the way, let's give
Speaker 3: the hand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, tell us tell us a bit about tell us
Speaker 4: a bit about that footage they found.
Speaker 2: Well, the first one was that a little bit creepy.
Speaker 5: Hopefully it was like just mildly unsettling. I would I
Speaker 5: would call it.
Speaker 2: It's just just old archival footage.
Speaker 7: If anybody doesn't go to archi dot org and go
Speaker 7: to things like the Prailinger Archives and other things that
Speaker 7: just go way back into the nineteen twenties, thirties, forties,
Speaker 7: you can find a credible film footage and you know,
Speaker 7: most of it is now out of copyright.
Speaker 2: So if you're making a cool project, check.
Speaker 5: It out, dude, check it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: But then the other one was from the video and
Speaker 7: one of the things at the very front of the
Speaker 7: stuff they don't want you to know, Bermuda Triangle video.
Speaker 2: There's a clip there and that is from a.
Speaker 7: Recreation of this thing, the flight nineteen incident is what
Speaker 7: we'll call it, where those five planes went missing.
Speaker 2: Just and it was a little the acting was great, right,
Speaker 2: It was a translation.
Speaker 5: It was it was you know, actually they made some
Speaker 5: choices do it.
Speaker 3: It's true, there was an aesthetic they were.
Speaker 5: So should we start with this incident, let's do let's
Speaker 5: do this.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: So here's the gist. Here's this setup. We're traveling back together. Right,
Speaker 4: It's just after the end of World War Two. The
Speaker 4: world is in share. Things are chaotic, pretty much. Everybody
Speaker 4: is having a bad day, right, and in this near
Speaker 4: you it's December fifth, nineteen forty five, and people still
Speaker 4: have to do their jobs.
Speaker 3: Right. So Flight nineteen is.
Speaker 4: A group of what we call torpedo bombers. There are
Speaker 4: five of them in this flight group, and they're leaving
Speaker 4: the Naval Air Station in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
Speaker 3: Shout out to everybody from Fort Lauderdale. Okay, wait to
Speaker 3: hear the rest of the story.
Speaker 4: So they they're leaving, and it's a typical training flight.
Speaker 4: They've got one guy named Lieutenant Charles Taylor. He has
Speaker 4: all his bona fides, he's seasoned, he's a.
Speaker 3: Veteran, he knows how navigation works. Here's the thing. And
Speaker 3: the rest of his crew remember this, they're learning how
Speaker 3: to use Yeah, they're the interns of the.
Speaker 5: Sky point, and so.
Speaker 4: As they're going on, they're just trying to figure out
Speaker 4: how do we how do we know we're leaving Point A,
Speaker 4: we're going to Point Z. How do we do that
Speaker 4: without things going sideways? And everything seems great until about
Speaker 4: three forty five PM, where we'd like to give you
Speaker 4: a little bit of a dramatic retelling of the true
Speaker 4: radio transmissions.
Speaker 3: Let's see who wants to be Taylor.
Speaker 5: I'll be Taylor.
Speaker 3: Sure, all right, nice, We've got Noel Brown playing Taylor.
Speaker 3: Noel's amazing. Yeah, so let's give a hand for Nolan.
Speaker 10: Thank you very much, Take you very much. Okay, Taylor
Speaker 10: cannot see land. We seem to be of course, what's
Speaker 10: your position?
Speaker 5: We cannot be sure where we are. I'm panicked at
Speaker 5: this point it says, so right here, that's a repeat.
Speaker 5: I cannot see land.
Speaker 4: Now those are Lieutenantsaylor's last recorded words at the end
Speaker 4: of the story.
Speaker 3: The tower is freaking out right ten.
Speaker 4: Minutes past ten long right in minutes and then a
Speaker 4: new voice chimes in. Taylor has disappeared, and this new
Speaker 4: voice is even more panic and theyre say, matth you
Speaker 4: want to do this one?
Speaker 7: Uh sure, we can't find west. Everything is wrong. We
Speaker 7: can't be sure of any direction. Everything looks strange.
Speaker 5: Even the ocean. Wow, that's a lot, dude.
Speaker 7: But here's the craziest part. You ready, Yes, we can't
Speaker 7: tell where we are. Everything is I can't make out anything.
Speaker 7: I think we may be about two hundred and twenty
Speaker 7: five miles northeast of base it.
Speaker 3: It looks like.
Speaker 2: We're entering white water.
Speaker 3: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: We're entering white water. We're completely lost.
Speaker 5: That's it. Yeah, that's all your guarantee. That's it, right, guarante.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you what I imagined? Just quickly?
Speaker 3: Let me hang entering, let me hang out.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 7: We are entering white water. I'm just imagining, imagining the
Speaker 7: visual of seeing whitewater in front of a plane.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 7: So in my mind, that's either, oh, you're angled down
Speaker 7: and you don't realize it.
Speaker 2: That's not great. But the other thing, it's kind of
Speaker 2: whack of doing. It's out there. But I imagine stuff
Speaker 2: from the Marvel Universe, guys portals.
Speaker 5: I imagine it was only a matter of time before
Speaker 5: we got multiverse.
Speaker 2: I know, it's silly, it's very silly. It's probably is
Speaker 2: not anything to do with the truth of the matter.
Speaker 7: But when you see some mysterious story like this and
Speaker 7: you hear the last words of somebody who truly did disappear,
Speaker 7: I like to allow my mind to go to that place.
Speaker 7: We like to allow our minds to go to that
Speaker 7: kind of place, not to truly think, hey, that's probably real,
Speaker 7: but more as though, what if it was that, would
Speaker 7: anything else match up?
Speaker 3: And if that is true, then what else does that
Speaker 3: lead us to? Right?
Speaker 4: Because if we know portals, I'm sure we know portals.
Speaker 4: I'm not alienating anybody. There's always one of the on portal, right,
Speaker 4: because the portal go somewhere.
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, what's up next? Airline food? Anyway. We
Speaker 3: have tons of these examples.
Speaker 4: There are things that people will say, you're clear examples
Speaker 4: proof that there's something spooky in the Bermuda Triangle. There's
Speaker 4: the story of the Ellen Austin in eighteen eighty one,
Speaker 4: the USS Cyclops. We've also got We've also got that
Speaker 4: cool boat name Witchcraft, the luxury cruiser. And in all
Speaker 4: of these cases which you can find in all sorts
Speaker 4: of Bermuda Triangle lore, the skeptics and the true believers
Speaker 4: both agree that those cases we just named have no
Speaker 4: proven hauns.
Speaker 3: We don't know why they disappeared, we don't know where
Speaker 3: they went.
Speaker 4: But as we also learned, there are a couple of
Speaker 4: cases where the answer is there, but people don't really
Speaker 4: want to look into it because it messes.
Speaker 3: With the story.
Speaker 6: Well, it's a bit of a case of confirmation bias,
Speaker 6: where that enough things come out, people start to sort
Speaker 6: of build a lore around it, and then before you
Speaker 6: know it, the Bermuda Triangle is this cursed you know,
Speaker 6: portal to Hell or something, yeah.
Speaker 7: Which is awesome, Yeah, yeah, ejectively just conceptually exist, or.
Speaker 3: A portal to Reno, which is kind.
Speaker 5: Of Should we talk about the witchcraft? Yeah, we can
Speaker 5: talking about real pe And I just think it's a
Speaker 5: badass name.
Speaker 4: Luxury IM saying, yeah, it's nineteen sixty seven, it's December
Speaker 4: twenty second, right before Christmas, and there's a real estate
Speaker 4: developer named Daniel Burak, and Daniel's been doing really well.
Speaker 4: He owns a he owns a yacht, yes, he gives
Speaker 4: a sick name, and he takes his friend out with
Speaker 4: him at night to see the Miami skyline. Right, it's
Speaker 4: pretty cool, just a fun cinematic detail. His buddy is
Speaker 4: a Catholic priest named Father Horgan. They only go about
Speaker 4: a mile out.
Speaker 3: From shore the witchcraft becomes disabled. What happens next?
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't even know, dude.
Speaker 7: They put out a distress call and they're asking for
Speaker 7: somebody to come out and help them, right, and they said, hey,
Speaker 7: this isn't a big deal. It's not some kind of emergency.
Speaker 7: It would be really cool to get some kind of
Speaker 7: rowboat something out to us so we can get out
Speaker 7: of this boat that's disabled.
Speaker 2: That's it pretty simple.
Speaker 4: Oh and nineteen minutes later support does show up. The
Speaker 4: thing is, the witchcraft isn't there, it's gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is sixty.
Speaker 4: Seven, so it's modern enough that they have they have
Speaker 4: some technology that will allow them to scout more effectively
Speaker 4: than someone in the.
Speaker 3: Eighteen hundreds, right, yes, but nothing managed a poof and.
Speaker 5: A pop, a bit of a poof and pop. Okay,
Speaker 5: go ahead please.
Speaker 7: Well it's pretty simple, like if you think about that rationally, right,
Speaker 7: somebody gets a distressed call from a ship, then they
Speaker 7: come out to help and the ship's not there.
Speaker 2: Okay, something happened that ship sank and that's it. End
Speaker 2: of story.
Speaker 7: You're gonna have missing people now, and you're gonna have
Speaker 7: a missing ship. But if you're you know, rationally thinking Okay,
Speaker 7: that ship's sink. The great thing about this topic and
Speaker 7: think about in this way.
Speaker 3: Is what if it didn't man?
Speaker 2: What if that ship got zapped out of time or
Speaker 2: grabbed by a kraken.
Speaker 3: Or by extraterrestrials, you know what I mean? What if
Speaker 3: they got a non consensual beam me up Scotty.
Speaker 2: Situation like the whole ship just ends up in the
Speaker 2: cargo bay.
Speaker 6: Yes, well, I think the thing that's also important to
Speaker 6: think about in these cases is how we pointed out
Speaker 6: earlier how vast all of this is, and how little
Speaker 6: we know about what's down there, and how objectively difficult
Speaker 6: it could potentially be to find one of these things,
Speaker 6: even if it sunk in a place where you kind
Speaker 6: of thought.
Speaker 5: You knew where it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, needle in a haystack times a million. And get
Speaker 3: this books.
Speaker 4: Depending on who you read and who you talk to,
Speaker 4: these stories that we gave you are fairly recent the
Speaker 4: past few centuries. You'll find plenty of authors say it
Speaker 4: goes much further back. A ton of the books will
Speaker 4: will tell you that serious events in the area predate
Speaker 4: the name Bermuda Triangle, maybe the name Bermuda. And they'll
Speaker 4: say that even like, way before European ships reached this
Speaker 4: part of the world, all the locals knew there was
Speaker 4: something strange afoot or afloat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, Okay, they're in the sea, so for thousands
Speaker 3: of years.
Speaker 4: Then the pitch is this part of the ocean is
Speaker 4: like a haunted house, right, spooky stuff. And even now
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five, you'll hear people saying, well, I'm
Speaker 4: a skeptical person. I'm a modern person, but is there
Speaker 4: something to this? Maybe there's something to it. So that's
Speaker 4: our question, what's going on?
Speaker 2: How many people here think there might be something strange
Speaker 2: going on in this part of the ocean. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: much better about my alien ideas?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we would.
Speaker 4: I would also I would accept sea monsters, Okay, I
Speaker 4: would accept sea.
Speaker 3: Monsters as.
Speaker 5: Horrors.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, if it's ancient sea monsters, I say,
Speaker 4: that's what we get for eating all that octopus.
Speaker 6: Probably sure, and come up, it's a real come up
Speaker 6: and watch my octopus, teacher, and you'll never want to
Speaker 6: eat another.
Speaker 2: Squeen again I saw one of those things we just
Speaker 2: learned about in the press.
Speaker 3: Spoken word. But so that's seriously our question. He's there
Speaker 3: an answer, bat in the hatchets, something with the mask,
Speaker 3: something with sales.
Speaker 4: We're pausing for word from our sponsors, and then we'll
Speaker 4: be back on the high seats.
Speaker 3: And we've returned years where it gets crazy every time.
Speaker 3: I love it. We think we've solved the mystery.
Speaker 4: I mean not we, We think civilization has solved, not
Speaker 4: just us in Dylan, and thanks again, Dylan. So hopefully
Speaker 4: we haven't spooked anybody out too much. Hopefully we're all
Speaker 4: still having a good time, especially because we really want
Speaker 4: to come back and.
Speaker 3: Hang out with you more often.
Speaker 4: If that's okay, If you feel a little squirrely about
Speaker 4: the possibility of us all suddenly disappearing, we have some
Speaker 4: good news. We've looked into everything about the mysteries, all
Speaker 4: the reported incidents and cases, and a lot of the
Speaker 4: toll tales. They're really juicy ones. They're great stories, but
Speaker 4: they're just that their stories, and they're awesome, and they're awesome,
Speaker 4: and some of them have aliens, which I'm also I'm
Speaker 4: very excited. So all right, this is where this is
Speaker 4: where maybe we we do we do a little bit
Speaker 4: of another game. So we're gonna ask you a question,
Speaker 4: and we want you it's multiple choice, no pressure, and
Speaker 4: so we want you to give a shout out when
Speaker 4: you think you've got the right answers. So the size,
Speaker 4: the number of the numbers, that's what we're running through. Okay,
Speaker 4: So the actual size of the Bermuda triangle. Let's let's
Speaker 4: kick it. Let's give some options. Okay, so I will
Speaker 4: run through the first.
Speaker 3: There are three choices.
Speaker 4: We're gonna do those first, and then we'll start cheering
Speaker 4: for the one we think it's correct.
Speaker 2: That's right, is it? A twenty thousand to one hundred
Speaker 2: thousand square miles?
Speaker 5: Got no takers there?
Speaker 6: Okay, we've got B two hundred thousand to two hundred
Speaker 6: and fifty thousand square miles.
Speaker 5: We should run through all of them.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, we're not cheering yet.
Speaker 5: Yes, think about it was me.
Speaker 6: So we got C five hundred thousand to one million,
Speaker 6: five hundred thousand square miles.
Speaker 3: Okay, so those are choices. I'll do it one more time.
Speaker 3: So cheer for which you think is correct.
Speaker 4: A twenty thousand to one hundred thousand, Okay, okay, I
Speaker 4: like it. I like the energy B two hundred thousand
Speaker 4: to two hundred and fifty thousand.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, okay, okay, all right, high bar here.
Speaker 4: So for the c folks, five hundred thousand to one million,
Speaker 4: five hundred thousand.
Speaker 3: Square minles h.
Speaker 4: All right, if you guess, see get it, becauerte the congratulations.
Speaker 5: You are correct, A huge part of the ocean's wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have gotten that, right, I can't even I
Speaker 4: probably can't count to a million.
Speaker 3: Now. So this is this is, this is the idea
Speaker 3: that we're in.
Speaker 4: A specific region of the world, a tiny triangle bounded
Speaker 4: by Florida, Bermuda and of course Puerto Rico.
Speaker 3: So whenever something bad happens in that.
Speaker 4: Area or something mysterious, even the most skeptical of us
Speaker 4: will stragan say, know, yeah, you're muta.
Speaker 6: Triangle when so expert oceanographers around the world know that
Speaker 6: some hearts of the ocean are trickier to navigate than others.
Speaker 6: But there genuinely doesn't seem to be a significantly higher
Speaker 6: amount of mysterious events here comparatively, right, It just it's.
Speaker 5: Got to remember that confirmation bias aspect.
Speaker 6: More people are creating these stories, building this lore and
Speaker 6: this mythology, and it starts to just become this kind
Speaker 6: of go to for people, kind of cooking up these stories.
Speaker 6: And then this notion of it being more dangerous than
Speaker 6: the rest of the massive, massive amounts of area that
Speaker 6: the ocean encompasses are the ocean is just crazy that.
Speaker 7: We should have gotten with Virgin and found the number
Speaker 7: of cruises they go through this area. If somebody knew
Speaker 7: something about like on a euro two.
Speaker 3: Hundred cruises, we can guess.
Speaker 4: But this is also very It's a very big, very
Speaker 4: busy part of the ocean, so we don't know how
Speaker 4: many vessels and aircraft are passing through at any given time.
Speaker 4: That's right, we don't know the totality. And basically, the
Speaker 4: more boat, the more vessels and planes you have passing
Speaker 4: through the area, the more opportunities there are for some
Speaker 4: shenanigans to occur.
Speaker 7: And that's everything from a mechanical error on a vessel
Speaker 7: to pre coincident with a wave which we will talk
Speaker 7: about in a little bit, or even a weather pattern.
Speaker 7: We talked with Jamie backstage about there is one incident
Speaker 7: on a ship one time where a tornado just went
Speaker 7: right through the center of the thing, like and nobody
Speaker 7: knew that was gonna happen because you can't predict that
Speaker 7: kind of weather and you do your absolute level best
Speaker 7: to make sure everything's going to be fine and good
Speaker 7: to go.
Speaker 2: But just the weather is a separate power that we
Speaker 2: have nothing to do with, you know.
Speaker 7: It's just I think what we're talking about is you
Speaker 7: increase the number of people and ships and vessels planes
Speaker 7: in an area, you're going to increase the number of
Speaker 7: potential problems, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, potential non consensual adventures and its thousands of cruises
Speaker 4: that pass through the every year.
Speaker 5: And the answer if you were wondering if it is avoided,
Speaker 5: it's just not.
Speaker 3: It's absolutely not. I mean, look at us, you guys
Speaker 3: are we're here now, that's fine.
Speaker 4: So another fun fact that we learned while we're researching
Speaker 4: this is all ships need insurance, right and if the
Speaker 4: Bermuda Triangle is really this hive of scum.
Speaker 3: To he wordle to Rito or whatever, then we know
Speaker 3: that that we know that there would be there would
Speaker 3: be problems ensuring it, and no company would ensure these
Speaker 3: ships if that were true, not even.
Speaker 4: Lloyd's of London and they're the folks who ensured j
Speaker 4: Lo's butt, you know what I mean, Like they'll go
Speaker 4: for anything.
Speaker 3: Gets another.
Speaker 4: Another big factor, going back to what you were saying
Speaker 4: there no, is that everyone loves a good story. So
Speaker 4: the first story about the Bermuda Triangle, it's actually way
Speaker 4: more recent. People think it comes from a newspaper in
Speaker 4: nineteen fifty where this journalist in Arizona, of all places, was.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, Gibbs will he shoots lose planes right.
Speaker 5: Land locked Arizona.
Speaker 3: He's an expert, and he's never been to the Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 3: And then the actual he didn't use the term.
Speaker 4: The actual phrase Bermuda Triangle doesn't come until nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 7: That's what it's I heard about this guy, Yeah, rating
Speaker 7: for an argacy, I believe, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And so along with a handful of other people, our
Speaker 4: guy Vincent, we'll call him Big V because that's a
Speaker 4: cool nickname.
Speaker 3: So Big V is one of the main reasons.
Speaker 4: People talk about the Bermuda Triangle because people hear this
Speaker 4: story and they love it, and more and more folks
Speaker 4: learn about it and the great game of Telephone and
Speaker 4: whispers begins, and so from the sixties, nineteen sixties to
Speaker 4: the eighties to to the nineties, people every time they
Speaker 4: hear about a tragic event, they we start.
Speaker 3: Looking for an explanage. So that's what we do. We're humans.
Speaker 4: We want patterns, we want answers, and folks started making
Speaker 4: up their own ideas.
Speaker 3: You are super into aliens. You hear about this and
Speaker 3: you go, oh, man, I was thinking about this earlier aliens.
Speaker 7: Bro Well, I mean, you know or real let's say
Speaker 7: government craft or experiments. We know about lots of testing
Speaker 7: that occurs out in the desert on the continental United States.
Speaker 7: There's also testing that's done in the waters the territory
Speaker 7: of the United States. And I'm only pointing them out
Speaker 7: because I'm from there, Okay, but you know, every government
Speaker 7: tests all kinds of things, and international waters would be
Speaker 7: a place to test things where something may or may
Speaker 7: or may not go wrong, which is just again, we
Speaker 7: try and keep all potential possibilities there. That would be
Speaker 7: way more rational than how much I wish it was aliens.
Speaker 4: I think we're all on the same page with that one, Okay,
Speaker 4: we want to believe, right, And there's another thing with
Speaker 4: I love that explanation. Because there's another thing with time
Speaker 4: travel where somebody's already super into time travel and they
Speaker 4: hear about a missing plane and they go, you know what,
Speaker 4: I got it, time travel, time travels, time traffl.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And so we also see people who think about ancient
Speaker 4: civilizations Atlantis, La Muria, right, the mini road we learned
Speaker 4: how to pronounce it's true because we're going there, and
Speaker 4: they say, maybe there's an ancient civilization involved. But the
Speaker 4: hard truth is that no matter what explanation we prefer,
Speaker 4: planes and ships have disappeared.
Speaker 5: And unpack that for me just a little bit.
Speaker 6: Then the idea of Atlantis returning and of that being
Speaker 6: like one of the theories, yeah.
Speaker 3: Which gets it. I mean it's mix and match. You know,
Speaker 3: you're at the buffet of conspiratorial thought.
Speaker 4: So you can take a little bit of Atlantis and say, oh,
Speaker 4: Atlantis is coming back, take a scoop of time travel
Speaker 4: that on, you know, just roll it onto the Portier
Speaker 4: burrito bowl and really likes case of yeah, I'm going
Speaker 4: through it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bimni Road really does look nuts, though.
Speaker 3: It does look like it. Yeah, you guys have heard
Speaker 3: about this, right, do.
Speaker 2: You know Bemini Road to anybody, Okay, good, well a
Speaker 2: couple of us do.
Speaker 7: We're going right out there. I don't think we actually
Speaker 7: get to go to that section of the North Island.
Speaker 7: But it's incredible. It doesn't look real. It looks like
Speaker 7: somebody built something down there in the seafloor right right
Speaker 7: off of the North Island there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like carved stone, like a paved road
Speaker 4: that just fell beneath the waves at some point.
Speaker 3: And it looks gigantic, yes, but it does.
Speaker 7: There does appear to be a standard explanation of just
Speaker 7: weathering of those specific stones and the structure of those stones.
Speaker 2: And nothing to see here basically, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who are they?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we shouldn't have called the stone stuff. They don't
Speaker 3: want you to know, all right, shout out today.
Speaker 4: We also know we also know that, you know, giving
Speaker 4: people wanted explanations and couldn't find one until modern science
Speaker 4: led to breakthroughs in the Bermuda Triangle mystery. And well
Speaker 4: they were talking about a little bit earlier. One of
Speaker 4: the biggest ones is surveillance. Is back in the day,
Speaker 4: you know, we would all hop on our whaling vessel
Speaker 4: or whatever, and we would be like, Margaret's my dea,
Speaker 4: I will see you in eight months, four years, help
Speaker 4: you keep you all scheduled, Cleo.
Speaker 7: Imagine though, imagine getting on a ship and doing what
Speaker 7: we're doing right now, looking out and seeing what you see,
Speaker 7: and knowing that there's a manifest somewhere. There's a piece
Speaker 7: of paper somewhere on one side that says we're leaving
Speaker 7: with this stuff, this many crew members, and we're heading
Speaker 7: in this direction. And then there might be someone on
Speaker 7: the other side at the destination with a similar piece
Speaker 7: of paper other than that good.
Speaker 3: Luck, yeah, right, And so people would go missing.
Speaker 4: There wasn't radio, there weren't satellites, you know, you would
Speaker 4: It also meant that if you were running late, people
Speaker 4: would be way nicer to you than there would be
Speaker 4: if you're running late today. They would just be happy
Speaker 4: to making happy, you know what I mean. And so
Speaker 4: that's we're keeping a positive That's one advantage. But the
Speaker 4: thing is there were a lot of disadvantages. We had
Speaker 4: to hope the weather was kind, We had to hope
Speaker 4: nothing went wrong privateers pirates, you know, just mechanical failures.
Speaker 4: Sometimes things did go wrong, and if you're waiting for
Speaker 4: the ship.
Speaker 3: You know, let's think about that. You're the family.
Speaker 4: You're over in Nantucket or something, and you were waiting
Speaker 4: for your loved one to come home and you don't
Speaker 4: ever get a solid confirmation, right, Or you're at a
Speaker 4: port in the Carolinas, you know.
Speaker 3: And you know they were going through what we call
Speaker 3: the Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 4: Now by the time someone decided we have to go
Speaker 4: look for this missing ship, months could have happened.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And the thinking, again, you just have to think
Speaker 6: about this the relative side. As massive as this ship is,
Speaker 6: like walking up to it or riding up to it,
Speaker 6: it was just like kind of mind blowing. But compare
Speaker 6: that to the absolute, utter, endless vastness that is the ocean,
Speaker 6: you know, at large.
Speaker 5: It really is a needle in that hates that kind
Speaker 5: of situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the odds are against us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and luckily the good news is we've got modern communication,
Speaker 4: satellite technology. It's made everything much safer. It's also made
Speaker 4: it a little more difficult to get away.
Speaker 3: I get that. But here on the Valiant Lady.
Speaker 4: Our amazing crew is in constant communication, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. They're talking to the sky and they're talking
Speaker 4: to all the ports we go.
Speaker 5: To blasting horns and stuff.
Speaker 4: Heart attacks and we I think we all have maybe
Speaker 4: contacted a loved one on the shore.
Speaker 3: That's amazing that we can do it.
Speaker 5: It's insane. Yeah, it's pretty good. Pretty good, it's pretty good.
Speaker 3: It's pretty good.
Speaker 4: So, like you were saying, there's a discrepancy of scale,
Speaker 4: the ocean is a the volatile ecosystem. It's better to
Speaker 4: think of it as its own big animal, right, And
Speaker 4: that's when we get into being at the mercy of
Speaker 4: atmospheric conditions. Because early ships, like when the brigotines and
Speaker 4: all that stuff, we imagine they're much smaller than we
Speaker 4: would think, so the wrong kind of wave hits them
Speaker 4: and it's skid.
Speaker 5: At are we talking about rogue waves?
Speaker 10: Then?
Speaker 4: Why do we talk about rogue waves or freak waves,
Speaker 4: which I think is more fun there it is.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So if we're not familiar with that term, this
Speaker 7: is the concept that there's a wave so large it
Speaker 7: would be roughly thirty meters in the air. If you
Speaker 7: just looked out and you saw a wave, what is
Speaker 7: the equivalent of thirty meters? Lord, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 7: do it right, now I don't even know.
Speaker 2: What it is in feet. It's a huge freaking wave.
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be that tall.
Speaker 3: It's like a wall of water.
Speaker 7: Yes, And these were tails that were told by people
Speaker 7: that were sailing vessels all across this area in the
Speaker 7: Bermuda Triangle, and it wasn't believed because at the time,
Speaker 7: especially when they're being experienced, there's not really good camera
Speaker 7: footage that you could actually confirm that there was a
Speaker 7: you know, thirty meter wave that came across. It wasn't
Speaker 7: until nineteen ninety five when there was an oil rig
Speaker 7: that actually did have some sensors on it, they were
Speaker 7: able to test each each wave basically that comes up
Speaker 7: against this oil platform, and there was a I think
Speaker 7: it was twenty nine meters of a wave, way higher
Speaker 7: than any wave could have been shown by the what
Speaker 7: do they call that, not the lateral model. There's a
Speaker 7: specific model that they use to tell you the smallest
Speaker 7: waves and the largest waves you're going to encounter, based
Speaker 7: on wind speeds and currents and things like that.
Speaker 5: And this was just way higher.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and with no precedents, no like yeah, no heads up,
Speaker 4: no spoiler alert, and scientists didn't even really believe in
Speaker 4: these things until the past few decades. Was kind of
Speaker 4: like ball lightning, which is another really really cool, Okay,
Speaker 4: different episode.
Speaker 3: I'm getting carried away, So I got.
Speaker 2: The measurements wrong really quickly. Yes, twenty five point six
Speaker 2: meters was the one that was measured on that day
Speaker 2: on that oil platform, and that is eighty four feet,
Speaker 2: So an eighty four foot wave.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and these extreme storm waves, that's another that's another
Speaker 4: termual here, and that could be a plausible explanation for some,
Speaker 4: but not all, of the events we talk about in
Speaker 4: the Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 3: So we know that there is some science behind it, right,
Speaker 3: and we know when we.
Speaker 4: Bugged at the Captain. We talked to Captain Domir and
Speaker 4: he gave us for me this is one of my
Speaker 4: favorite lines. We heard we meet, we're meeting and hanging
Speaker 4: out with him, and I said, Okay, I've got to
Speaker 4: know we're doing this show right, We're hanging out with people.
Speaker 3: What do you guys think?
Speaker 4: And Deputy Captain Narn, what do you guys think of
Speaker 4: the Bermuda Triangle?
Speaker 3: And this is a quote. It's a very very distinct voice.
Speaker 4: We're not going to do his voice, but he says,
Speaker 4: I have been across the Bermuda triangle many many times,
Speaker 4: and look at me.
Speaker 3: I haven't disappeared. It was pretty good. Like he's got
Speaker 3: he's got comedic tough though he's tough. He's tough.
Speaker 5: You know, he's got gravitas.
Speaker 3: I've never disappeared.
Speaker 4: So we we want to give it up again one
Speaker 4: more time for our captain, our deputy captain, and can
Speaker 4: tell you.
Speaker 3: And they're just the foolest guys. We're in excellent hands
Speaker 3: here with them and the crew. So have we saw
Speaker 3: this day?
Speaker 2: I have a question.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we've all seen, like the Navy coming out with
Speaker 7: official videos of things that appear to be unidentified aerial
Speaker 7: phenomena or unexplained.
Speaker 2: Phenomena up in the sky sometimes in the oceans.
Speaker 7: Does anybody here believe that there's actually some kind of
Speaker 7: be an extraterrestrial or inner terrestrial or whatever thing intelligence
Speaker 7: that is on Earth right now? Does anybody believe that?
Speaker 2: Really? Do you ever feel like we're being programmed to
Speaker 2: believe that? Sorry, that's.
Speaker 7: Oh boy, doesn't the middle of the night looking out
Speaker 7: on the ocean thoughts, But it does seem like and
Speaker 7: specifically vehicles that appear to be going into the ocean
Speaker 7: from the air, that kind of trans medium object and
Speaker 7: concept that has a hold on me, I think because
Speaker 7: it could it could explain some of the other phenomena
Speaker 7: that we end up seeing and that our you know,
Speaker 7: military's navies see out there in the oceans.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I want to explore even more. And there's some people
Speaker 7: right now working on documentaries. Oh our our buddy oh
Speaker 7: I can't think of his name right now, who does
Speaker 7: the UFO stuff?
Speaker 2: Uh we corbel. Yeah, they're doing all kinds of really interesting.
Speaker 7: Stuff attempting to get like official documents through Congress and
Speaker 7: and actually have like testimony about true experiences and sightings.
Speaker 2: And we just can't wait to see that play out.
Speaker 4: Transmedia meaning that something could be under the water like
Speaker 4: a submersible and then immediately violate what we know about
Speaker 4: physics and technology and just and just yeat itself into
Speaker 4: the atmosphere, itself down.
Speaker 3: And again yeat is the technical term.
Speaker 4: So we like what we we're seeing here is we're
Speaker 4: also we're not giving up on the space bubbles, right,
Speaker 4: space time bubbles?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, we're not giving up on the aliens.
Speaker 6: Can we just add one we talked a little bit
Speaker 6: about probability and just about how maybe this is this
Speaker 6: confirmation biased to play right where.
Speaker 5: But there's this Australian scientist named Carl Let's.
Speaker 6: See Crucial, Crucial Nikki who has for years been preaching
Speaker 6: this gospel, this idea of this is there's nothing special
Speaker 6: about this region.
Speaker 5: It is just a numbers game overall.
Speaker 2: And Noah, the what is it the atmosphere.
Speaker 5: Anyway, they did for sure it's authority. Yeah, and they
Speaker 5: they believe the same thing.
Speaker 6: I mean, they for years have been saying this is
Speaker 6: just a numbers game, and it is just this idea
Speaker 6: of the stories we tell ourselves, the way that lore
Speaker 6: can kind of perpetuate itself over time.
Speaker 5: So not to be a buzz killed, but I.
Speaker 6: Think it's certainly possible that we might get beamed up
Speaker 6: while we're on this delightful voyage.
Speaker 5: But chances are pretty well.
Speaker 4: And I love that point in making too, because it
Speaker 4: tells us about the power of story, right. The story
Speaker 4: and the lore of the Bermuda Triangle is really a
Speaker 4: story about the people who are finding and discovering.
Speaker 5: Those and the friends we made along the way.
Speaker 3: The stories we tell ourselves, the.
Speaker 2: Friends we made at Scarlett Knight. Yeah, all the ship
Speaker 2: when we summoned that remember you were.
Speaker 3: There there the friends we made when we took some excursion.
Speaker 3: Shout out to UGO, right yeah.
Speaker 4: And we also we also known that science as officially
Speaker 4: to their mindsult the Bermuda Triangle. But have we And
Speaker 4: that's where that's where we wanted to pause because folks,
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