1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: my name is Noah. 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: They call me Bed. 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 4: We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 4: Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are you. You are here. 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 4: That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know. 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 3: This is a this is a cool one for us. 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: You guys. 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 4: We were lucky enough not just to perform live in 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 4: international waters, but to also record our long awaited exploration 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 4: of the Bermuda Triangle. And we just want in touch base, 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 4: let you know what you're getting into before where you 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 4: hear the tape. 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know how Virgin Voyage was okay with this. 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 6: You know, we're not really the fear bombering type, but 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 6: there is something to be said about exploring disappearances, famous 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 6: disappearances of seafaring vessels and air craft all around this 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 6: particular geographical region that we were in fact sailing through. 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 7: Yes, and to put your mind in the space where 24 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 7: we are as listeners of this episode. You go into 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 7: a large place called the Red Room, which is already intriguing. 26 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 4: Right, not related to Black Widow, No, Twin Peaks, that's 27 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 4: the Red Lodge, but similar. 28 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 5: No, the Red Room is the thing with the curtains 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 5: and carry on. 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 4: Yes, it's a phenomenal venue. It's huge, and we have 31 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 4: these ginormous that's technical term screens behind us with some 32 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 4: excellent video work by none other than our own mister 33 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 4: Matt Frederick. We've got a lively crowd of like five 34 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: hundred something people who could have done any number of 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 4: other things, right because we're right next to a casino 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: as we're recording. 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 5: Yep, I canna talk about that. 38 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 6: I think Ben's alterigo did a little better than there 39 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 6: than I did, But you know what, it's all for fun. 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 6: It's all for funzies. And shout out to the crew 41 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 6: there at the Red Room, Victor Legend one percent. Just 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 6: I think this is the highest production one of the 43 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 6: highest production value type of live shows that we've ever 44 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 6: gotten to do. And Matt Hughes, shout out to you 45 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 6: for prepping those incredible moving backdrop images as well as 46 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 6: cutting what you have done in the past on Bermuda Triangle, 47 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 6: an old YouTube episode from the early stuff they don't 48 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 6: want you to know days that really held up other 49 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 6: than I think you mispronounced the word bimini bimini. 50 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: We talked about of backstage. 51 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mispronounced the word and I called it bemani 52 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: in my original research. 53 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 54 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 5: Absolutely, hilariously honest mistake. 55 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 6: It was just funny because we've been saying it a 56 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 6: bunch and we almost didn't notice it until we heard 57 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 6: it and they were like. 58 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 5: Oh, that's not how we've been saying. 59 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: It, right, Do check that out. 60 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 4: Do forgive my mispronunciation there as well intentioned, but we 61 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 4: do pronounce bimini, bimini bimini correctly in our live shows. 62 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 4: So where this is going to pick up, folks, is 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 4: going to be right after our original YouTube video and 64 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 4: the Bermuda Triangle plays and we walk out into the 65 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 4: breach and we immediately start yelling about the Bermuda Triangle 66 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: afterword from our sponsors, from the EU efforts to psychic 67 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: powers and government conspiracies. History is riddled with unexplained defense. 68 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: You can turn back now or learning the stuff they 69 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: don't want you to know. Oh my god, you guys. 70 00:03:54,720 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 7: Hello, Hello, there's too many of you in here. 71 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: We have a problem. 72 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess now we have to do a good job. 73 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 5: I guess we'll do our level best. 74 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 8: So we are Ben, Matt and Noel stuff they don't 75 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 8: want you to know. And before we get started, we 76 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 8: thought we would play a little bit of a game. 77 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: Okay, so we're gonna point this way right. If you're 78 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: on this. 79 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: Side when we point to you, we want you to 80 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: all yell out triangle. 81 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: Okay, so let's try it. That's good. 82 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 5: Okay, send no nuts, that's good. 83 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 3: And if you're on this side. 84 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 5: Can you guess we're gonna yell for mute? Okay on cue? 85 00:04:46,600 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, sorry, we'll workshop that. 86 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 5: I get why people like sports. That's fun fun, right. 87 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 7: Was anybody at the summoning ritual that we all performed 88 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 7: last night on the top of the ship during the thunderstorm. 89 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 3: All dressed in red gigantic octopus? Yeah, it was like. 90 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 6: The password was Fidelia's totally cool. 91 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: Totally cool. 92 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 4: We want to be honest with you for for two 93 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 4: thirds of us from Nola myself, this is not only 94 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,559 Speaker 4: our first virgin voyage, this is our first cruise ever. 95 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of get the appeal. 96 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 6: I kind of get like it wasn't maybe something that 97 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 6: I would have done on my own. 98 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 5: But now I think I'm cruise coded. 99 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: Whatever. 100 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a cruise pilled. 101 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 5: That's the term. 102 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: It's a problem. 103 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 7: I'm already budgeting out for the next three years. Yeah, 104 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 7: to spend at seat. So give us, give us a woo. 105 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 7: If this is also your first virgin cruise. 106 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a lot of the woo's habit. 107 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 4: Whose habits is just in Uh so, Uh, there's one 108 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 4: more shout out we wanted to give. We've had such 109 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 4: a great time Matt Noll and myself hanging out meeting 110 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 4: some people. I said, I know, I see a couple 111 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 4: faces in the crowd who watched me drunkenly lose at blackjack. 112 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 4: We're all still friends. Uh, but we learned, you guys 113 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 4: that a lot of people are here because they had 114 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 4: a birthday. 115 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 5: Okay this week. 116 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 4: So if you had a birthday this week or you 117 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 4: have one coming up right, Wow, if you had a 118 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 4: birthday today, let's hear a whoo. 119 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, all right for sure for the way, and happy birthday, brother, Yes, 120 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 8: so on the counter of three, we're all going to 121 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 8: wish each other a happy birthday. 122 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: Okay, one, two, three. 123 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 6: Happy birthday to all of us, even those whose birthday 124 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 6: is it. 125 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 3: Is not happy birthday at some point. 126 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, speaking of time, that video guys just watched, 127 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 7: that's from like twenty eleven. 128 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: We made that. 129 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 5: We didn't know how to pronounce the word bimini. 130 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: We had just read bunch. Okay, this was before my time. 131 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: They made a ton of those videos. 132 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: So and now we have united here, not just the 133 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 4: three of us, not just our super producer Dylan the 134 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 4: Tennessee Palfega. 135 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: Yes, we forgive you for being handsomer than the three 136 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: of us. 137 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 5: Okay, I can not forget you for that him that, and. 138 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: We're also we considered you part of our show. You're 139 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 4: a fellow conspiracy realists. 140 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: You have given us your time. We're going to share 141 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: it together. 142 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 4: And when we first started talking about this idea, guys, 143 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 4: we looked around and we said, wait, have we never 144 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 4: done an episode on the Buda Triangle? 145 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 5: Yeahs fars the background. 146 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 6: The show started off as a video only YouTube series 147 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 6: back when when was that like in two thousand nine, 148 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 6: when it was still called like what iTunes video or 149 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 6: something like that. 150 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it was. We were number one on 151 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: itubes video. I mean, come on, yeah, yeah, yeah. 152 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 5: So we've been at it for a while, but then 153 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 5: it became an audio podcast. We've been doing that for 154 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 5: a low decade plus somehow. Only that video is the 155 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 5: only time we've ever talked about Bermuni trying. 156 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy, and we we've explored so much stuff, but 157 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: like the rest of humanity, and this is true, we've 158 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 4: got a lot more exploration to. 159 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: Do in the ocean. 160 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 4: We talked about this fact all the time. You guys 161 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 4: probably know it, but human civilization right now knows more 162 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 4: about the moon than they do about the bottom of 163 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: the ocean. 164 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 5: Except for James Cameron, who knows. 165 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's put in the times. Thank you James, there's James. 166 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 5: Congrats on Avatar thirteen. 167 00:08:59,800 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 9: Ye. 168 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: Do we want to talk about some of the experiences. 169 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 7: Okay, so, just as a fairly new cruiser, what it 170 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 7: was the term one who cruises. 171 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 3: Sor sailor. 172 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 5: Preferred nomenclature of virgin cruises. 173 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 7: As we drink, I imagine that all of us now 174 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 7: have had that experience when we go out on the 175 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 7: top deck and you're just standing there and you're just 176 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 7: looking out at what our eyes can only understand as 177 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 7: infinite water, infinite sky, some clouds, maybe one boat, but 178 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 7: mostly just the best thing our mind could come up with. 179 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: Infinity. 180 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 5: Right, Well, it's like when we were doing it together. 181 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 5: I think I pointed out there, like I get why 182 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 5: back in the day people thought the. 183 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 6: World was just going to end at some point. Yes, 184 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 6: it tracks like the phenomenon of experiencing it. 185 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 7: I can totally feel that absolutely, And then we have 186 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 7: to imagine it's not just out and up, it's also down. 187 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: It goes super deep. We don't know much about it. 188 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 4: We do know that we're all here together live in 189 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 4: the actual Bermia Triangle we did, Jimmy, don't get mad. 190 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 4: We didn't know whether we would be able to do 191 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: this show, but we've been fascinated by this. We thought 192 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 4: this is the best place to explore this. 193 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: So one of our first questions is what do we 194 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: think about when we think about the Bermuda Triangle? Right, 195 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: miss mystery, I mean triangles. 196 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 5: Shapes mainly shape, yeah, crashes, that stuff. 197 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 4: Extraterrestrials, aliens, ghosts, aliens, sea monsters, aliens. 198 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 6: That one episode of Scooby Doo from nineteen seventy eight. 199 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 6: It was called a creepy tangle in the Bermuda triangle. 200 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 6: Then we're skeleton people involved. Yeah, that's really your main 201 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 6: source about learning about this topic. And no attention to 202 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 6: Scooby do Scooby Doooby doo, where are you triangle? 203 00:10:58,559 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: That's you Ferm. 204 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: I think about what was. 205 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 7: That Philadelphia experiment? Or there was something we did an 206 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 7: episode on a long time ago, adults. 207 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 4: For dimensional travel creating cream cheese. Yes, so we maybe 208 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 4: we're getting carried away. We know this. We talked to 209 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: a lot a lot of our fellow sailors, and everybody 210 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 4: has an idea, has a theory, as we'll lure tonight. 211 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 4: We actually went and spoke with the captains themselves, the 212 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 4: captain and the deputy captain. 213 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: Let's give it up for them. 214 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 2: Whoa, they're not there fearing the ship and stuff. So 215 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 2: somebody steering right, somebody is there, auto. 216 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 5: I don't know how it works. 217 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: Let's move Okay, Yeah we did. 218 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 4: We did check to see if we could curse a 219 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 4: little bit in this show, so I'll break the seal here. 220 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 3: Those guys are so fun. So they're like firefighters also doctors. 221 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 5: They wear absolutely stunning. 222 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: I love seeing around and that air of like a 223 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: little dangerous. You know, it's just a little dangerous. They 224 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: got good hands. 225 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're talking to it and obviously they're taller 226 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: than me, both of them. 227 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 2: And they're like, yeah, okay, good, We're gonna be fine. 228 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 4: So we also think we've heard about time travel theories. 229 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 4: We've also heard about crime. 230 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 5: The True anybody got in any of the other live 231 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 5: podcast events? 232 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, this this, this episode is gonna be a little 233 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 6: less murdery, So consider it a bit of a pali. 234 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 5: But we love our fellow podcast Oh the Trail and 235 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 5: Buried Bones. Shout out to all of those amazing folks. 236 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. 237 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna out with myself. I've kind of embarrassed 238 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: myself a couple of times. I've been walking around to 239 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: some of you and just going, do you guys really 240 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: understand who Paul Holes is? 241 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 4: Like this? 242 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 5: He's a lot of a big deal. 243 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 6: Hang on a sec, let's take a quick pause here, 244 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 6: step away from this live show. Here are worth more 245 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 6: sponsor and then we'll be right back from the red room. 246 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 5: And we're back. 247 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: So we do a bunch of shows. 248 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 4: This is one of our favorite shows because now we 249 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 4: get to talk about true crime, we get to talk 250 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 4: about mystery and allegations and paranormal This is kind of 251 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 4: like true extraterrestrial Prime or maybe extra true terrestrial crime. 252 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 5: It's not terrestrial, it's on the scene. 253 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: Okay, it's the planet. 254 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: It's true. 255 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 4: So the pitch for the Bermuda triangle, it's something that 256 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 4: we have been obsessed with ever since we were wee 257 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 4: young tights and just date us a little bit here 258 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 4: before podcasts. 259 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: We're a thing. 260 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: You know. 261 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 5: We're talking like those time life books. 262 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: Encyclopedia Britannica, but on a bookshelf. 263 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: Our coffee table. 264 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: Right. 265 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, So the pitches that multiple ships and planes over 266 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 4: decades or over centuries have gone missing, no wreckage, no survivors, 267 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 4: no explanation. 268 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 5: Of a poof situation, yeah, or pop situation a po. 269 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 4: The Sargasso Sea hungers, they sing, right, and every so 270 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: often it consumes the unweary vessel. So that's the pitch, 271 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 4: right for true believers. Uh, it appears there are numerous 272 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: examples to back up this legend. 273 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: Uh. 274 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 4: Maybe we talked about a few of the most famous, 275 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 4: which we saw in our our video right the. 276 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 3: Video before the video, the video before the video there was. 277 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 5: That was so the first amazing video that Mapp put together. 278 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: This is all Matt Frederick. By the way, let's give 279 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: the hand. 280 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, tell us tell us a bit about tell us 281 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 4: a bit about that footage they found. 282 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: Well, the first one was that a little bit creepy. 283 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 5: Hopefully it was like just mildly unsettling. I would I 284 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 5: would call it. 285 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: It's just just old archival footage. 286 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 7: If anybody doesn't go to archi dot org and go 287 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 7: to things like the Prailinger Archives and other things that 288 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 7: just go way back into the nineteen twenties, thirties, forties, 289 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 7: you can find a credible film footage and you know, 290 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 7: most of it is now out of copyright. 291 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: So if you're making a cool project, check. 292 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 5: It out, dude, check it out. 293 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 294 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 7: But then the other one was from the video and 295 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 7: one of the things at the very front of the 296 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 7: stuff they don't want you to know, Bermuda Triangle video. 297 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: There's a clip there and that is from a. 298 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 7: Recreation of this thing, the flight nineteen incident is what 299 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 7: we'll call it, where those five planes went missing. 300 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: Just and it was a little the acting was great, right, 301 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: It was a translation. 302 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 5: It was it was you know, actually they made some 303 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 5: choices do it. 304 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: It's true, there was an aesthetic they were. 305 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 5: So should we start with this incident, let's do let's 306 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 5: do this. 307 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: Okay. 308 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 4: So here's the gist. Here's this setup. We're traveling back together. Right, 309 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 4: It's just after the end of World War Two. The 310 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: world is in share. Things are chaotic, pretty much. Everybody 311 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: is having a bad day, right, and in this near 312 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 4: you it's December fifth, nineteen forty five, and people still 313 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 4: have to do their jobs. 314 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: Right. So Flight nineteen is. 315 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 4: A group of what we call torpedo bombers. There are 316 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 4: five of them in this flight group, and they're leaving 317 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: the Naval Air Station in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. 318 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: Shout out to everybody from Fort Lauderdale. Okay, wait to 319 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: hear the rest of the story. 320 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 4: So they they're leaving, and it's a typical training flight. 321 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 4: They've got one guy named Lieutenant Charles Taylor. He has 322 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 4: all his bona fides, he's seasoned, he's a. 323 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 3: Veteran, he knows how navigation works. Here's the thing. And 324 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: the rest of his crew remember this, they're learning how 325 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: to use Yeah, they're the interns of the. 326 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 5: Sky point, and so. 327 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 4: As they're going on, they're just trying to figure out 328 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: how do we how do we know we're leaving Point A, 329 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 4: we're going to Point Z. How do we do that 330 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 4: without things going sideways? And everything seems great until about 331 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 4: three forty five PM, where we'd like to give you 332 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 4: a little bit of a dramatic retelling of the true 333 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: radio transmissions. 334 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 3: Let's see who wants to be Taylor. 335 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 5: I'll be Taylor. 336 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 3: Sure, all right, nice, We've got Noel Brown playing Taylor. 337 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 3: Noel's amazing. Yeah, so let's give a hand for Nolan. 338 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 10: Thank you very much, Take you very much. Okay, Taylor 339 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 10: cannot see land. We seem to be of course, what's 340 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 10: your position? 341 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 5: We cannot be sure where we are. I'm panicked at 342 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 5: this point it says, so right here, that's a repeat. 343 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 5: I cannot see land. 344 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 4: Now those are Lieutenantsaylor's last recorded words at the end 345 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 4: of the story. 346 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 3: The tower is freaking out right ten. 347 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 4: Minutes past ten long right in minutes and then a 348 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 4: new voice chimes in. Taylor has disappeared, and this new 349 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 4: voice is even more panic and theyre say, matth you 350 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 4: want to do this one? 351 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 7: Uh sure, we can't find west. Everything is wrong. We 352 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 7: can't be sure of any direction. Everything looks strange. 353 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 5: Even the ocean. Wow, that's a lot, dude. 354 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 7: But here's the craziest part. You ready, Yes, we can't 355 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 7: tell where we are. Everything is I can't make out anything. 356 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 7: I think we may be about two hundred and twenty 357 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 7: five miles northeast of base it. 358 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 3: It looks like. 359 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 2: We're entering white water. 360 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: What does that mean? 361 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: We're entering white water. We're completely lost. 362 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 5: That's it. Yeah, that's all your guarantee. That's it, right, guarante. 363 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 2: Can I tell you what I imagined? Just quickly? 364 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,239 Speaker 3: Let me hang entering, let me hang out. 365 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. 366 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 7: We are entering white water. I'm just imagining, imagining the 367 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 7: visual of seeing whitewater in front of a plane. 368 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 5: Right. 369 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 7: So in my mind, that's either, oh, you're angled down 370 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 7: and you don't realize it. 371 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: That's not great. But the other thing, it's kind of 372 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: whack of doing. It's out there. But I imagine stuff 373 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: from the Marvel Universe, guys portals. 374 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 5: I imagine it was only a matter of time before 375 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 5: we got multiverse. 376 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: I know, it's silly, it's very silly. It's probably is 377 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 2: not anything to do with the truth of the matter. 378 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 7: But when you see some mysterious story like this and 379 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 7: you hear the last words of somebody who truly did disappear, 380 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 7: I like to allow my mind to go to that place. 381 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 7: We like to allow our minds to go to that 382 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 7: kind of place, not to truly think, hey, that's probably real, 383 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 7: but more as though, what if it was that, would 384 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 7: anything else match up? 385 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: And if that is true, then what else does that 386 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: lead us to? Right? 387 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 4: Because if we know portals, I'm sure we know portals. 388 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 4: I'm not alienating anybody. There's always one of the on portal, right, 389 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 4: because the portal go somewhere. 390 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: Yes, all right, what's up next? Airline food? Anyway. We 391 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: have tons of these examples. 392 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 4: There are things that people will say, you're clear examples 393 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 4: proof that there's something spooky in the Bermuda Triangle. There's 394 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 4: the story of the Ellen Austin in eighteen eighty one, 395 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 4: the USS Cyclops. We've also got We've also got that 396 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 4: cool boat name Witchcraft, the luxury cruiser. And in all 397 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 4: of these cases which you can find in all sorts 398 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 4: of Bermuda Triangle lore, the skeptics and the true believers 399 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 4: both agree that those cases we just named have no 400 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 4: proven hauns. 401 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: We don't know why they disappeared, we don't know where 402 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 3: they went. 403 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 4: But as we also learned, there are a couple of 404 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 4: cases where the answer is there, but people don't really 405 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: want to look into it because it messes. 406 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 3: With the story. 407 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 6: Well, it's a bit of a case of confirmation bias, 408 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 6: where that enough things come out, people start to sort 409 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 6: of build a lore around it, and then before you 410 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 6: know it, the Bermuda Triangle is this cursed you know, 411 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 6: portal to Hell or something, yeah. 412 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 7: Which is awesome, Yeah, yeah, ejectively just conceptually exist, or. 413 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: A portal to Reno, which is kind. 414 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 5: Of Should we talk about the witchcraft? Yeah, we can 415 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 5: talking about real pe And I just think it's a 416 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 5: badass name. 417 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 4: Luxury IM saying, yeah, it's nineteen sixty seven, it's December 418 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 4: twenty second, right before Christmas, and there's a real estate 419 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: developer named Daniel Burak, and Daniel's been doing really well. 420 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 4: He owns a he owns a yacht, yes, he gives 421 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 4: a sick name, and he takes his friend out with 422 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 4: him at night to see the Miami skyline. Right, it's 423 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 4: pretty cool, just a fun cinematic detail. His buddy is 424 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 4: a Catholic priest named Father Horgan. They only go about 425 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 4: a mile out. 426 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: From shore the witchcraft becomes disabled. What happens next? 427 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't even know, dude. 428 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 7: They put out a distress call and they're asking for 429 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 7: somebody to come out and help them, right, and they said, hey, 430 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 7: this isn't a big deal. It's not some kind of emergency. 431 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 7: It would be really cool to get some kind of 432 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 7: rowboat something out to us so we can get out 433 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 7: of this boat that's disabled. 434 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: That's it pretty simple. 435 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 4: Oh and nineteen minutes later support does show up. The 436 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 4: thing is, the witchcraft isn't there, it's gone. 437 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is sixty. 438 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 4: Seven, so it's modern enough that they have they have 439 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: some technology that will allow them to scout more effectively 440 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 4: than someone in the. 441 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 3: Eighteen hundreds, right, yes, but nothing managed a poof and. 442 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 5: A pop, a bit of a poof and pop. Okay, 443 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 5: go ahead please. 444 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 7: Well it's pretty simple, like if you think about that rationally, right, 445 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 7: somebody gets a distressed call from a ship, then they 446 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 7: come out to help and the ship's not there. 447 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 2: Okay, something happened that ship sank and that's it. End 448 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: of story. 449 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 7: You're gonna have missing people now, and you're gonna have 450 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 7: a missing ship. But if you're you know, rationally thinking Okay, 451 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 7: that ship's sink. The great thing about this topic and 452 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 7: think about in this way. 453 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: Is what if it didn't man? 454 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: What if that ship got zapped out of time or 455 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: grabbed by a kraken. 456 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: Or by extraterrestrials, you know what I mean? What if 457 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: they got a non consensual beam me up Scotty. 458 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: Situation like the whole ship just ends up in the 459 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 2: cargo bay. 460 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 6: Yes, well, I think the thing that's also important to 461 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 6: think about in these cases is how we pointed out 462 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 6: earlier how vast all of this is, and how little 463 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 6: we know about what's down there, and how objectively difficult 464 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 6: it could potentially be to find one of these things, 465 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 6: even if it sunk in a place where you kind 466 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 6: of thought. 467 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 5: You knew where it was. 468 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, needle in a haystack times a million. And get 469 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 3: this books. 470 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 4: Depending on who you read and who you talk to, 471 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 4: these stories that we gave you are fairly recent the 472 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 4: past few centuries. You'll find plenty of authors say it 473 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 4: goes much further back. A ton of the books will 474 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 4: will tell you that serious events in the area predate 475 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: the name Bermuda Triangle, maybe the name Bermuda. And they'll 476 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: say that even like, way before European ships reached this 477 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 4: part of the world, all the locals knew there was 478 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 4: something strange afoot or afloat. 479 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, Okay, they're in the sea, so for thousands 480 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 3: of years. 481 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: Then the pitch is this part of the ocean is 482 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 4: like a haunted house, right, spooky stuff. And even now 483 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five, you'll hear people saying, well, I'm 484 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 4: a skeptical person. I'm a modern person, but is there 485 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 4: something to this? Maybe there's something to it. So that's 486 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 4: our question, what's going on? 487 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: How many people here think there might be something strange 488 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: going on in this part of the ocean. Yeah, so 489 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: much better about my alien ideas? 490 00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we would. 491 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 4: I would also I would accept sea monsters, Okay, I 492 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 4: would accept sea. 493 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 3: Monsters as. 494 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 5: Horrors. 495 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, if it's ancient sea monsters, I say, 496 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 4: that's what we get for eating all that octopus. 497 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 6: Probably sure, and come up, it's a real come up 498 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 6: and watch my octopus, teacher, and you'll never want to 499 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 6: eat another. 500 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: Squeen again I saw one of those things we just 501 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: learned about in the press. 502 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: Spoken word. But so that's seriously our question. He's there 503 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 3: an answer, bat in the hatchets, something with the mask, 504 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 3: something with sales. 505 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 4: We're pausing for word from our sponsors, and then we'll 506 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 4: be back on the high seats. 507 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: And we've returned years where it gets crazy every time. 508 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 3: I love it. We think we've solved the mystery. 509 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 4: I mean not we, We think civilization has solved, not 510 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 4: just us in Dylan, and thanks again, Dylan. So hopefully 511 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 4: we haven't spooked anybody out too much. Hopefully we're all 512 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 4: still having a good time, especially because we really want 513 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 4: to come back and. 514 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 3: Hang out with you more often. 515 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 4: If that's okay, If you feel a little squirrely about 516 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 4: the possibility of us all suddenly disappearing, we have some 517 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 4: good news. We've looked into everything about the mysteries, all 518 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 4: the reported incidents and cases, and a lot of the 519 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 4: toll tales. They're really juicy ones. They're great stories, but 520 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 4: they're just that their stories, and they're awesome, and they're awesome, 521 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 4: and some of them have aliens, which I'm also I'm 522 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 4: very excited. So all right, this is where this is 523 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 4: where maybe we we do we do a little bit 524 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 4: of another game. So we're gonna ask you a question, 525 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 4: and we want you it's multiple choice, no pressure, and 526 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 4: so we want you to give a shout out when 527 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 4: you think you've got the right answers. So the size, 528 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 4: the number of the numbers, that's what we're running through. Okay, 529 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 4: So the actual size of the Bermuda triangle. Let's let's 530 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 4: kick it. Let's give some options. Okay, so I will 531 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 4: run through the first. 532 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: There are three choices. 533 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 4: We're gonna do those first, and then we'll start cheering 534 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 4: for the one we think it's correct. 535 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: That's right, is it? A twenty thousand to one hundred 536 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: thousand square miles? 537 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 5: Got no takers there? 538 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 6: Okay, we've got B two hundred thousand to two hundred 539 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 6: and fifty thousand square miles. 540 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 5: We should run through all of them. 541 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, we're not cheering yet. 542 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 5: Yes, think about it was me. 543 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 6: So we got C five hundred thousand to one million, 544 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 6: five hundred thousand square miles. 545 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 3: Okay, so those are choices. I'll do it one more time. 546 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 3: So cheer for which you think is correct. 547 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 4: A twenty thousand to one hundred thousand, Okay, okay, I 548 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 4: like it. I like the energy B two hundred thousand 549 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 4: to two hundred and fifty thousand. 550 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, okay, okay, all right, high bar here. 551 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 4: So for the c folks, five hundred thousand to one million, 552 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 4: five hundred thousand. 553 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: Square minles h. 554 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 4: All right, if you guess, see get it, becauerte the congratulations. 555 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 5: You are correct, A huge part of the ocean's wild. 556 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 557 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 4: I wouldn't have gotten that, right, I can't even I 558 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 4: probably can't count to a million. 559 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: Now. So this is this is, this is the idea 560 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 3: that we're in. 561 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 4: A specific region of the world, a tiny triangle bounded 562 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 4: by Florida, Bermuda and of course Puerto Rico. 563 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: So whenever something bad happens in that. 564 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 4: Area or something mysterious, even the most skeptical of us 565 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 4: will stragan say, know, yeah, you're muta. 566 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 6: Triangle when so expert oceanographers around the world know that 567 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 6: some hearts of the ocean are trickier to navigate than others. 568 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 6: But there genuinely doesn't seem to be a significantly higher 569 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 6: amount of mysterious events here comparatively, right, It just it's. 570 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 5: Got to remember that confirmation bias aspect. 571 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 6: More people are creating these stories, building this lore and 572 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 6: this mythology, and it starts to just become this kind 573 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 6: of go to for people, kind of cooking up these stories. 574 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 6: And then this notion of it being more dangerous than 575 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 6: the rest of the massive, massive amounts of area that 576 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 6: the ocean encompasses are the ocean is just crazy that. 577 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 7: We should have gotten with Virgin and found the number 578 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 7: of cruises they go through this area. If somebody knew 579 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 7: something about like on a euro two. 580 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: Hundred cruises, we can guess. 581 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 4: But this is also very It's a very big, very 582 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 4: busy part of the ocean, so we don't know how 583 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 4: many vessels and aircraft are passing through at any given time. 584 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 4: That's right, we don't know the totality. And basically, the 585 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 4: more boat, the more vessels and planes you have passing 586 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 4: through the area, the more opportunities there are for some 587 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 4: shenanigans to occur. 588 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 7: And that's everything from a mechanical error on a vessel 589 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 7: to pre coincident with a wave which we will talk 590 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 7: about in a little bit, or even a weather pattern. 591 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 7: We talked with Jamie backstage about there is one incident 592 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 7: on a ship one time where a tornado just went 593 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 7: right through the center of the thing, like and nobody 594 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 7: knew that was gonna happen because you can't predict that 595 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 7: kind of weather and you do your absolute level best 596 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 7: to make sure everything's going to be fine and good 597 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 7: to go. 598 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: But just the weather is a separate power that we 599 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: have nothing to do with, you know. 600 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 7: It's just I think what we're talking about is you 601 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 7: increase the number of people and ships and vessels planes 602 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 7: in an area, you're going to increase the number of 603 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 7: potential problems, right. 604 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, potential non consensual adventures and its thousands of cruises 605 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 4: that pass through the every year. 606 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 5: And the answer if you were wondering if it is avoided, 607 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 5: it's just not. 608 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 3: It's absolutely not. I mean, look at us, you guys 609 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: are we're here now, that's fine. 610 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 4: So another fun fact that we learned while we're researching 611 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 4: this is all ships need insurance, right and if the 612 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 4: Bermuda Triangle is really this hive of scum. 613 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 3: To he wordle to Rito or whatever, then we know 614 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 3: that that we know that there would be there would 615 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 3: be problems ensuring it, and no company would ensure these 616 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 3: ships if that were true, not even. 617 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 4: Lloyd's of London and they're the folks who ensured j 618 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 4: Lo's butt, you know what I mean, Like they'll go 619 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 4: for anything. 620 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: Gets another. 621 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 4: Another big factor, going back to what you were saying 622 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 4: there no, is that everyone loves a good story. So 623 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 4: the first story about the Bermuda Triangle, it's actually way 624 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 4: more recent. People think it comes from a newspaper in 625 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 4: nineteen fifty where this journalist in Arizona, of all places, was. 626 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 3: Like, you know, Gibbs will he shoots lose planes right. 627 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 5: Land locked Arizona. 628 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 3: He's an expert, and he's never been to the Bermuda Triangle. 629 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 3: And then the actual he didn't use the term. 630 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 4: The actual phrase Bermuda Triangle doesn't come until nineteen sixty four. 631 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 7: That's what it's I heard about this guy, Yeah, rating 632 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 7: for an argacy, I believe, Yeah. 633 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 634 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 4: And so along with a handful of other people, our 635 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 4: guy Vincent, we'll call him Big V because that's a 636 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 4: cool nickname. 637 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 3: So Big V is one of the main reasons. 638 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 4: People talk about the Bermuda Triangle because people hear this 639 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 4: story and they love it, and more and more folks 640 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 4: learn about it and the great game of Telephone and 641 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 4: whispers begins, and so from the sixties, nineteen sixties to 642 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 4: the eighties to to the nineties, people every time they 643 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 4: hear about a tragic event, they we start. 644 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 3: Looking for an explanage. So that's what we do. We're humans. 645 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 4: We want patterns, we want answers, and folks started making 646 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 4: up their own ideas. 647 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 3: You are super into aliens. You hear about this and 648 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 3: you go, oh, man, I was thinking about this earlier aliens. 649 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 7: Bro Well, I mean, you know or real let's say 650 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 7: government craft or experiments. We know about lots of testing 651 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 7: that occurs out in the desert on the continental United States. 652 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 7: There's also testing that's done in the waters the territory 653 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 7: of the United States. And I'm only pointing them out 654 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 7: because I'm from there, Okay, but you know, every government 655 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 7: tests all kinds of things, and international waters would be 656 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 7: a place to test things where something may or may 657 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 7: or may not go wrong, which is just again, we 658 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 7: try and keep all potential possibilities there. That would be 659 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 7: way more rational than how much I wish it was aliens. 660 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 4: I think we're all on the same page with that one, Okay, 661 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 4: we want to believe, right, And there's another thing with 662 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 4: I love that explanation. Because there's another thing with time 663 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 4: travel where somebody's already super into time travel and they 664 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 4: hear about a missing plane and they go, you know what, 665 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 4: I got it, time travel, time travels, time traffl. 666 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. 667 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 4: And so we also see people who think about ancient 668 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 4: civilizations Atlantis, La Muria, right, the mini road we learned 669 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 4: how to pronounce it's true because we're going there, and 670 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 4: they say, maybe there's an ancient civilization involved. But the 671 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 4: hard truth is that no matter what explanation we prefer, 672 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 4: planes and ships have disappeared. 673 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 5: And unpack that for me just a little bit. 674 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 6: Then the idea of Atlantis returning and of that being 675 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 6: like one of the theories, yeah. 676 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 3: Which gets it. I mean it's mix and match. You know, 677 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 3: you're at the buffet of conspiratorial thought. 678 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 4: So you can take a little bit of Atlantis and say, oh, 679 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 4: Atlantis is coming back, take a scoop of time travel 680 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 4: that on, you know, just roll it onto the Portier 681 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 4: burrito bowl and really likes case of yeah, I'm going 682 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 4: through it. 683 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bimni Road really does look nuts, though. 684 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 3: It does look like it. Yeah, you guys have heard 685 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 3: about this, right, do. 686 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: You know Bemini Road to anybody, Okay, good, well a 687 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: couple of us do. 688 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 7: We're going right out there. I don't think we actually 689 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 7: get to go to that section of the North Island. 690 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 7: But it's incredible. It doesn't look real. It looks like 691 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 7: somebody built something down there in the seafloor right right 692 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 7: off of the North Island there. 693 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like carved stone, like a paved road 694 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 4: that just fell beneath the waves at some point. 695 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 3: And it looks gigantic, yes, but it does. 696 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 7: There does appear to be a standard explanation of just 697 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 7: weathering of those specific stones and the structure of those stones. 698 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: And nothing to see here basically, but I don't know. 699 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, who are they? 700 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 7: Right? 701 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 2: Yeah? 702 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we shouldn't have called the stone stuff. They don't 703 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 3: want you to know, all right, shout out today. 704 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 4: We also know we also know that, you know, giving 705 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 4: people wanted explanations and couldn't find one until modern science 706 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 4: led to breakthroughs in the Bermuda Triangle mystery. And well 707 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 4: they were talking about a little bit earlier. One of 708 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 4: the biggest ones is surveillance. Is back in the day, 709 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 4: you know, we would all hop on our whaling vessel 710 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 4: or whatever, and we would be like, Margaret's my dea, 711 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 4: I will see you in eight months, four years, help 712 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 4: you keep you all scheduled, Cleo. 713 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 7: Imagine though, imagine getting on a ship and doing what 714 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 7: we're doing right now, looking out and seeing what you see, 715 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 7: and knowing that there's a manifest somewhere. There's a piece 716 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 7: of paper somewhere on one side that says we're leaving 717 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,479 Speaker 7: with this stuff, this many crew members, and we're heading 718 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 7: in this direction. And then there might be someone on 719 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 7: the other side at the destination with a similar piece 720 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 7: of paper other than that good. 721 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 3: Luck, yeah, right, And so people would go missing. 722 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 4: There wasn't radio, there weren't satellites, you know, you would 723 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 4: It also meant that if you were running late, people 724 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 4: would be way nicer to you than there would be 725 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 4: if you're running late today. They would just be happy 726 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 4: to making happy, you know what I mean. And so 727 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 4: that's we're keeping a positive That's one advantage. But the 728 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 4: thing is there were a lot of disadvantages. We had 729 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 4: to hope the weather was kind, We had to hope 730 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 4: nothing went wrong privateers pirates, you know, just mechanical failures. 731 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 4: Sometimes things did go wrong, and if you're waiting for 732 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 4: the ship. 733 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 3: You know, let's think about that. You're the family. 734 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 4: You're over in Nantucket or something, and you were waiting 735 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 4: for your loved one to come home and you don't 736 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 4: ever get a solid confirmation, right, Or you're at a 737 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 4: port in the Carolinas, you know. 738 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 3: And you know they were going through what we call 739 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 3: the Bermuda Triangle. 740 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 4: Now by the time someone decided we have to go 741 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 4: look for this missing ship, months could have happened. 742 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, And the thinking, again, you just have to think 743 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 6: about this the relative side. As massive as this ship is, 744 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 6: like walking up to it or riding up to it, 745 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 6: it was just like kind of mind blowing. But compare 746 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 6: that to the absolute, utter, endless vastness that is the ocean, 747 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 6: you know, at large. 748 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 5: It really is a needle in that hates that kind 749 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 5: of situation. 750 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, the odds are against us. 751 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, and luckily the good news is we've got modern communication, 752 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 4: satellite technology. It's made everything much safer. It's also made 753 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,959 Speaker 4: it a little more difficult to get away. 754 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 3: I get that. But here on the Valiant Lady. 755 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 4: Our amazing crew is in constant communication, you know what 756 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 4: I mean. They're talking to the sky and they're talking 757 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 4: to all the ports we go. 758 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 5: To blasting horns and stuff. 759 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,479 Speaker 4: Heart attacks and we I think we all have maybe 760 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 4: contacted a loved one on the shore. 761 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 3: That's amazing that we can do it. 762 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 5: It's insane. Yeah, it's pretty good. Pretty good, it's pretty good. 763 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 3: It's pretty good. 764 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 4: So, like you were saying, there's a discrepancy of scale, 765 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 4: the ocean is a the volatile ecosystem. It's better to 766 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 4: think of it as its own big animal, right, And 767 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 4: that's when we get into being at the mercy of 768 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 4: atmospheric conditions. Because early ships, like when the brigotines and 769 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 4: all that stuff, we imagine they're much smaller than we 770 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 4: would think, so the wrong kind of wave hits them 771 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 4: and it's skid. 772 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 5: At are we talking about rogue waves? 773 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 10: Then? 774 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 4: Why do we talk about rogue waves or freak waves, 775 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 4: which I think is more fun there it is. 776 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, So if we're not familiar with that term, this 777 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 7: is the concept that there's a wave so large it 778 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 7: would be roughly thirty meters in the air. If you 779 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 7: just looked out and you saw a wave, what is 780 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 7: the equivalent of thirty meters? Lord, I'm gonna have to 781 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 7: do it right, now I don't even know. 782 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: What it is in feet. It's a huge freaking wave. 783 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 2: It shouldn't be that tall. 784 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 3: It's like a wall of water. 785 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 7: Yes, And these were tails that were told by people 786 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 7: that were sailing vessels all across this area in the 787 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 7: Bermuda Triangle, and it wasn't believed because at the time, 788 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 7: especially when they're being experienced, there's not really good camera 789 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 7: footage that you could actually confirm that there was a 790 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 7: you know, thirty meter wave that came across. It wasn't 791 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 7: until nineteen ninety five when there was an oil rig 792 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 7: that actually did have some sensors on it, they were 793 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 7: able to test each each wave basically that comes up 794 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 7: against this oil platform, and there was a I think 795 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 7: it was twenty nine meters of a wave, way higher 796 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 7: than any wave could have been shown by the what 797 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 7: do they call that, not the lateral model. There's a 798 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 7: specific model that they use to tell you the smallest 799 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 7: waves and the largest waves you're going to encounter, based 800 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 7: on wind speeds and currents and things like that. 801 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 5: And this was just way higher. 802 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, and with no precedents, no like yeah, no heads up, 803 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 4: no spoiler alert, and scientists didn't even really believe in 804 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 4: these things until the past few decades. Was kind of 805 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 4: like ball lightning, which is another really really cool, Okay, 806 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 4: different episode. 807 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,479 Speaker 3: I'm getting carried away, So I got. 808 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 2: The measurements wrong really quickly. Yes, twenty five point six 809 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 2: meters was the one that was measured on that day 810 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 2: on that oil platform, and that is eighty four feet, 811 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 2: So an eighty four foot wave. 812 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:15,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. 813 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and these extreme storm waves, that's another that's another 814 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 4: termual here, and that could be a plausible explanation for some, 815 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 4: but not all, of the events we talk about in 816 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 4: the Bermuda Triangle. 817 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 3: So we know that there is some science behind it, right, 818 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 3: and we know when we. 819 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 4: Bugged at the Captain. We talked to Captain Domir and 820 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 4: he gave us for me this is one of my 821 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 4: favorite lines. We heard we meet, we're meeting and hanging 822 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 4: out with him, and I said, Okay, I've got to 823 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 4: know we're doing this show right, We're hanging out with people. 824 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 3: What do you guys think? 825 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 4: And Deputy Captain Narn, what do you guys think of 826 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 4: the Bermuda Triangle? 827 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 3: And this is a quote. It's a very very distinct voice. 828 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 4: We're not going to do his voice, but he says, 829 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 4: I have been across the Bermuda triangle many many times, 830 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 4: and look at me. 831 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 3: I haven't disappeared. It was pretty good. Like he's got 832 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 3: he's got comedic tough though he's tough. He's tough. 833 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 5: You know, he's got gravitas. 834 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 3: I've never disappeared. 835 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 4: So we we want to give it up again one 836 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 4: more time for our captain, our deputy captain, and can 837 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 4: tell you. 838 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 3: And they're just the foolest guys. We're in excellent hands 839 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 3: here with them and the crew. So have we saw 840 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 3: this day? 841 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 2: I have a question. 842 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, we've all seen, like the Navy coming out with 843 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 7: official videos of things that appear to be unidentified aerial 844 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 7: phenomena or unexplained. 845 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 2: Phenomena up in the sky sometimes in the oceans. 846 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 7: Does anybody here believe that there's actually some kind of 847 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 7: be an extraterrestrial or inner terrestrial or whatever thing intelligence 848 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 7: that is on Earth right now? Does anybody believe that? 849 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 2: Really? Do you ever feel like we're being programmed to 850 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 2: believe that? Sorry, that's. 851 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 7: Oh boy, doesn't the middle of the night looking out 852 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 7: on the ocean thoughts, But it does seem like and 853 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 7: specifically vehicles that appear to be going into the ocean 854 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 7: from the air, that kind of trans medium object and 855 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 7: concept that has a hold on me, I think because 856 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 7: it could it could explain some of the other phenomena 857 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 7: that we end up seeing and that our you know, 858 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 7: military's navies see out there in the oceans. 859 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. 860 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 7: I want to explore even more. And there's some people 861 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 7: right now working on documentaries. Oh our our buddy oh 862 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 7: I can't think of his name right now, who does 863 00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 7: the UFO stuff? 864 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 2: Uh we corbel. Yeah, they're doing all kinds of really interesting. 865 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 7: Stuff attempting to get like official documents through Congress and 866 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 7: and actually have like testimony about true experiences and sightings. 867 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 2: And we just can't wait to see that play out. 868 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 4: Transmedia meaning that something could be under the water like 869 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 4: a submersible and then immediately violate what we know about 870 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 4: physics and technology and just and just yeat itself into 871 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,280 Speaker 4: the atmosphere, itself down. 872 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 3: And again yeat is the technical term. 873 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 4: So we like what we we're seeing here is we're 874 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 4: also we're not giving up on the space bubbles, right, 875 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 4: space time bubbles? 876 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, we're not giving up on the aliens. 877 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 6: Can we just add one we talked a little bit 878 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 6: about probability and just about how maybe this is this 879 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,879 Speaker 6: confirmation biased to play right where. 880 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 5: But there's this Australian scientist named Carl Let's. 881 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 6: See Crucial, Crucial Nikki who has for years been preaching 882 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 6: this gospel, this idea of this is there's nothing special 883 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 6: about this region. 884 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 5: It is just a numbers game overall. 885 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 2: And Noah, the what is it the atmosphere. 886 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 5: Anyway, they did for sure it's authority. Yeah, and they 887 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 5: they believe the same thing. 888 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 6: I mean, they for years have been saying this is 889 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 6: just a numbers game, and it is just this idea 890 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 6: of the stories we tell ourselves, the way that lore 891 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,479 Speaker 6: can kind of perpetuate itself over time. 892 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 5: So not to be a buzz killed, but I. 893 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 6: Think it's certainly possible that we might get beamed up 894 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 6: while we're on this delightful voyage. 895 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 5: But chances are pretty well. 896 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 4: And I love that point in making too, because it 897 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 4: tells us about the power of story, right. The story 898 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 4: and the lore of the Bermuda Triangle is really a 899 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 4: story about the people who are finding and discovering. 900 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 5: Those and the friends we made along the way. 901 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 3: The stories we tell ourselves, the. 902 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 2: Friends we made at Scarlett Knight. Yeah, all the ship 903 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 2: when we summoned that remember you were. 904 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 3: There there the friends we made when we took some excursion. 905 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 3: Shout out to UGO, right yeah. 906 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 4: And we also we also known that science as officially 907 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 4: to their mindsult the Bermuda Triangle. But have we And 908 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 4: that's where that's where we wanted to pause because folks, 909 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 4: as you could probably tell, we've been doing this show 910 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 4: for a long time and we have so much more 911 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 4: to explore. 912 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 3: You are the reason this show exists, and thank you 913 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 3: for tuning in. 914 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 4: If you're a true crime fan, a ufologist, a fellow 915 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 4: conspiracy realist, give yourselves a hand. 916 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 3: Please. 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