1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: to the heart of the issues that matter to you. Today, 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: we're getting to the heart of the mid term elections, 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: the shifting political landscape ahead of it. We're going to 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: dig into it with Jessica Anderson. She is the president 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: of the Sentinel Action Fund. You might remember her from 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: before the twenty twenty four election. We had her on 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: the show and she wisely and astutelee told us not 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: to worry about the early voting and the mail in ballots, 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: that they were not cannibalizing the election day vote. I 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: don't know if you remember, but that was the message 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: from the left heading into election day that because Republicans 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: were having a strong early turnout, that would mean that 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: they would not have a strong turnout on election day. 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: She was right, The left and the media were wrong. 16 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: So that's why we're having her on again today. But 17 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about a really interesting new development, 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: this report from the New York Times talking about a 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: seismic four point five million voter swing towards Republicans since 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: two thousand and two. Why is that happening? 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: What does it mean. 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: We'll also break down some of these key Bellweather races 23 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: coming up this November. Prior to next November, you've got 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: those gubernatorial races in New Jersey and Virginia. 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. 26 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: Also, we've got a redistricting arms race. What does that 27 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: mean for the midterm elections. All of that and more, 28 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: obviously a lot to dig into with Jessica Anderson. Stay tuned, 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: Jessica Anderson, It's great to have you on. I think 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: since we last had you on, well, we won the election. 31 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: A lot happened. President Trump won the popular vote and 32 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: the Republicans, you know, took power of all of Washington DC, 33 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: so kind of a big deal. 34 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: So I did a big deal. 35 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're a big part of that at the 36 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,919 Speaker 1: Sentinel Action Fund, and you know, getting those early votes 37 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: and those mail and ballot votes. 38 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: So but yeah, so a lots change's changed. 39 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: Actually, I think, Lisa, the last time we talked was 40 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: me trying to tell everyone, including your faithful listeners, that no, 41 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: the early vote was not going to steal from election day. 42 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 3: We are still going to win this thing, and we're 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: going to win these Senate races. And people thought we 44 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: were nuts, you know, and so I think we've proven 45 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 3: that absentee ballot early vote can work, and we've proven 46 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: that low propensity first time Trump voters are the special 47 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 3: sauce of the Republican Party right now, and Trump's magnetism 48 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 3: to these voters is just critical. 49 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: So a lot, a lot has happened since last year. 50 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: You're right, you did tell me that, and I think 51 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: I went on Lori Ingram that night on the Ingram Mangle, 52 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: and I believe it was like Jessica Anderson with the 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: Sentinel Action told me that it is not cannibalizing election 54 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: day voters, and everyone looked shocked. 55 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: But you're right, which is why we're having you back to. 56 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: Talk about, you know, what's ahead with the midterm election. 57 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: In the midterms, so I wanted to get your takes. 58 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: So the New York Times had a report recently sort 59 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: of highlighting this like big shift in voter registration trends 60 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: that we've seen since the twenty twenty election in really 61 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: big impact on the Democrat party. Looking about like twenty 62 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: I think thirty different states plus DC looking at the 63 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: states that track voter registration by political party and finding 64 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: that Democrats lost ground to Republicans in every single one, 65 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: which has resulted in a net swing of four point 66 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: five million voters toward the Republican Party. That is a 67 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: significant shift. Talk about the significance of that and why 68 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: that matters, particularly heading into this midterm election. 69 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: It's remarkable that it took the New York Times to 70 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: do this analysis to kind of get everyone in the 71 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: political chattering class to realize that this big shift has 72 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: been happening, because I think people like you and I 73 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: have seen this on the ground really the last four 74 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: years in particular. And I think there's two things that 75 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: are happening at once. First, the Democratic Party is just 76 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: in a total free fall when it comes to policy. 77 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: So you have, you know. 78 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: Major groups of people that are changing their voter registration. 79 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: They're leaving blue states to move to states you look like. 80 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 3: You look at like the exodus from California to Idaho 81 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: or to Texas, and you're seeing, you know, major chunks 82 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: of Democrats say we're fed up with the policies of 83 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsosen, We're going to move to a red state. 84 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: And then they're re registering there either as an independent 85 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: or as a Republican. So I think that's really interesting. 86 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: The post COVID movement of voters specifically attached to the 87 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 3: failed policies and the flawed candidates. And this is happening 88 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: at the exact same time that the Republican Party looked 89 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: inward and realized after twenty twenty that they needed to 90 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 3: build long term campaign infrastructure and have a more robust 91 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: get out the vote approach. I think we saw this, 92 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: you know, you and I just joked about it and 93 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: the opener, but you know, we saw this at full 94 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: scale in twenty twenty four when Republicans, you know, really 95 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 3: did three things. 96 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: Well. 97 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 3: They narrowed the Democratic's historic advantage that Democrats have usually 98 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: had in early voting. 99 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: They registered new voters. 100 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 3: You see this in a key state like Pennsylvania that 101 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: was both important for the Senate and the presidential turning 102 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: out those low propensity, first time Trump voters in those 103 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: states that had just been registered six months prior. And 104 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 3: then the third thing that I'm most excited about, and 105 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: I think we as a party, and certainly those of 106 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: us at Sentinal Action Fund are super pumped about, is 107 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: you can have a durable, long term political infrastructure to 108 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: mobilize those newly registered voters early. And the key is 109 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 3: you got to turn them out so Democrats have had 110 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: this forever because they had unions, right like they have 111 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: unions in their cities and states that do that long 112 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: term work. Well, now, because of the Trump effects, you 113 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 3: have groups like Sentinal Action Fund that are able to 114 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: go in there and do that same long term work. 115 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: And so it was it was just comical to me 116 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: that the New York Times of all places, showed these numbers. 117 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: But they're real, and I think it shows that Republicans 118 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: have the edge going into the midterms on some really 119 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: tough Senate races across the country, you know. 120 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: And what's interesting, so you talked about obviously infrastructure is 121 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: incredibly important, like that get out the vote machine, as 122 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: you point out, Democrats have been so good at it 123 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: in the past, and now we've caught up and maybe 124 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: even you know, exceeded the left in that regard. But 125 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: in terms of like the coalition President Trump put together, 126 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: is that to last? 127 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: I mean, are they Republican voters or are they Trump voters? 128 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: And then how does that translate to a midterm election 129 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: where while he is in office, he's not necessarily his 130 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: name's not on the ballot. 131 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that is actually the million dollar question 132 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: right now. For all of us that are are doing 133 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: worker the midterms, and we've we've started our research and 134 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: have a pretty good answer to that. The challenge is 135 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: that Trump has a unique magnetism and voters turn out 136 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: for him, and they turn out not only because of 137 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: his personality but also because of his policy. And so 138 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: while his personality is not on the mid term ballots 139 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: right he himself is not on the ticket, the successes 140 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 3: of his policies are. So I think there's two things 141 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: that Republicans can learn and need to be doing right now. 142 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: One is telling the successful stories of the Trump agenda 143 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: of the first two hundred days. Right, you look at 144 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: immigration and the economy, the two biggest things that were 145 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: movers for voters this last election. Well, the changes that 146 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: the Trump administration made on immigration were swift, It was fierce, 147 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: and it was and it was so clear and tangible. Right, 148 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: it was within the first seven days of him taking office. 149 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: And so the temperature around immigration is actually cooled because 150 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: the success would so quick and intense. The economy, on 151 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 3: the other side, is taking time, right, you have it's 152 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: a little bit more complicated. You've got the deregulatory savings 153 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: that are coming in from the Trump deregulation agenda. You've 154 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: got tariffs that have somewhat mixed messaging but ultimately are 155 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: going to land to more dollars in the pockets of consumers. 156 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: And then you've got the extension of the tax cuts. 157 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: So now that the Big Beautiful Bill has passed, Trump 158 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: really has I think, the chance to turn the messaging 159 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: tables back to congressional and senatorial candidates to say, Okay, 160 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: now you have to take the ball and run. I 161 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: did the hard work by getting the Trump economic agenda 162 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: formulated and tackled within the first two hundred days. Now 163 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: show voters this fall and winter that it's mattering and 164 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: that you're the champion of it. And I think the 165 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: Senate and the House both saying that they are the 166 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: partner to the Trump economic agenda is going to be key. 167 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: And you got to put that in front of voters. 168 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 3: So it's not just showing up at events, it's sending 169 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: them mail, treat almost treating it like a year round campaign. Right, 170 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: the things that we would do forget out the vote, 171 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: do that now for the Big Beautiful bill. Talk about 172 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: the prices of gas and the price of groceries and eggs, 173 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: going down the benefits from tariffs, the benefit, the dollar 174 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 3: amount benefit from d reg all of that through mail, 175 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: through digital, through texts back to those voters. So I 176 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: think one that's a huge thing. We have to tell 177 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: the successful story. It has to be clear, and it 178 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 3: has to be on the economy. The second is continuing 179 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: to frame the Democratic Party as basically insane and radical. 180 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 3: I mean, you've got Mundami up there in New York 181 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: running as a full fledged socialist. I mean, I can't 182 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: think of a better foil. You've got Democrat senators that 183 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: are traveling to El Savador to meet with the Ques 184 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: gang members. You've got Dems that are now protests against 185 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 3: government waste. They protested against DC becoming more safe. I mean, 186 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: it's like every thirty days there's a brand new story 187 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: of Democrats being completely radical and that they're only focused 188 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: on being anti Trump instead of having some level of 189 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 3: common sense. And So I think if Republicans in the midterms, 190 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: specifically in tough states like Georgia, going after an entrenched 191 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 3: Democrat like Senator Osoff, if we can do this in 192 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: a state like Georgia and really show the success of 193 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: the economic agenda, and how ASoft stands for the radical, 194 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: crazy part of the Democratic Party. 195 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: It's a win win. 196 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: So I think those are the really the two things 197 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 3: that come to mind as the most important things. 198 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: Got to take a quick break more with Jessica on 199 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: the other side on the big beautiful bill. Though it 200 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: is a little bit complex because I haven't seen the 201 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: latest polling, but largely the polling has been negative about 202 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: the bill overall. And then when you get into certain 203 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: pieces and elements of it that has been popular, like 204 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: the no tax on tips, So you know, how do 205 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: you sell that, especially when Democrats are hammering like the 206 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: medicaid angle, and you know all that. 207 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: The more detail the better. 208 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 3: So you know, Trump is a mastermind at marketing, so 209 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: he markets this whole thing as the big beautiful bill, 210 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 3: this grand thing. But the details of what this bill 211 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: does and how it's going to impact my life, you know, 212 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: my simple, simple life, Why my life is going to 213 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: get better, That is where this begins to sing. And 214 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: congressional Republicans and Senate candidates they've got to do that. 215 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: They have to literally go through the list of why 216 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: this is going to help them. The dollar amount that's 217 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: back in their pocket because of tax cuts being extended. 218 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 2: You know that number. 219 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: That number is fourteen hundred dollars, and you know that 220 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: number could even grow even more once you add in 221 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 3: deregulatory savings. So I think the proof is in the 222 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: detail and to get past kind of the broad strokes 223 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 3: of the bill and talk about the specifics. 224 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: That's where the I think the success is going to come. 225 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: You know, we've got two gubernatorial races coming up this November, 226 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: one in New Jersey, uh and one in Virginia that 227 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: people are looking to as Bill weathers to what will 228 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: happen in the mid terms. Right now, both Republican candidates 229 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: are behind. I believe both are based single digits, but 230 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: still behind. You know, how indicative do you think these 231 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: races will be on what we see next November. 232 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good question. 233 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, common logic is often that the 234 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 3: the November race, on these off your cycles is a 235 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: negative response to whoever's in the White House. Right It 236 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: worked with Younkin against Joe Biden. It's worked historically in Virginia. 237 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 3: I'm a resident there. You know, we're all worried about 238 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 3: this Virginia, about the Virginia race, just as I'm sure 239 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 3: you know everyone that in New Jersey is as well. 240 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: What I what I think is challenging though, is that 241 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: the policies that Trump has negotiated and advocated for have 242 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 3: been done in partnership with Congress, not with governors, and 243 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: so there's a little bit of a disconnect tier of 244 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 3: the role that governors play in the Trump agenda. And 245 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 3: the only reason I bring that up is because I 246 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 3: think there's if we take the theory of what I 247 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: just laid out of being accurate, that to win in 248 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: the midterms you have to talk about the successes of 249 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: the Trump agenda, and you have to frame the Democrats 250 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: as radical. If you take that as the premise, there's 251 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: some cognitive dissidents on actually the governor's race and how 252 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: they worked in partnership with the Trump agenda, especially for 253 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: a first time you know, for candidates that are running 254 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: for the first time, or for in the case of 255 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: Virginia that it's a lieutenant governor. So I'm not completely 256 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: sold that the New Jersey and Virginia races are going 257 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 3: to be bell weathers for the midterms, but I do 258 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: think we're going to learn a lot. We're going to 259 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: learn whether what voters attitudes are like if the turnout 260 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: numbers are sustainable year over year without Trump on the ballot. 261 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: So I'm not you know, I'm not saying that we 262 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: won't learn anything. I'm just not completely convinced that there's 263 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: not some cognitive dissonance in the minds of voters of 264 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: how they view governors versus how they view the Senate 265 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: and the House as a partner to Trump. 266 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: Well, you know what, it'll be interesting too because at 267 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: least in the Virginia gubernatorial race, there's some like deja 268 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: vu to twenty twenty one with sort of like the 269 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: parental rights aspect with especially transgenders and high school with 270 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: allowing you know, men in the women's bathroom and vice versa. 271 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: And you know I saw that. Yeah, and Yunkin I 272 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: think was down by like five at this point, and 273 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: she's down by like seven, I think. So you know, 274 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: who knows if she's able to take you know, some 275 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: of these recent issues there and and you know, use 276 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: it to to take. 277 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: Her to office or not. But you know, I wanted 278 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: to ask you to you. 279 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: I know that you guys have been primarily focused on 280 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: Senate races in the past, but you know, looking at 281 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: the House and redistricting. Obviously, we've got this like redistricting 282 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: arms race going on with Texas redistricting its map, and 283 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: then now Gavin Newsom is putting you know, a uh, 284 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, this will be a special council or special 285 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: election vote on a new map in California for California 286 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: this November. There's also potential changes in like Florida. Ohio 287 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: has to redo its map ahead of the twenty twenty 288 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: six midterms, so potentially, like you know, a bunch of 289 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: different pickups, right, So, how do you think all of 290 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: that will impact the midterms? 291 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a I think that's a great question, 292 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: especially because you had, you know, the issue with Texas 293 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: felt like parochial, right, it just felt like this is 294 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: just a Texas thing. And then what happened, you know, 295 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: what happened in the end will ultimately you end up 296 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: with exactly where they started, with Republicans able to achieve 297 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: quorum and go back and pass the loss. So that 298 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: was just funny in and of itself. But I think 299 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: to your question, I think there's two things worth considering here. One, 300 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: Democrats have long abused redistricting as an election tool to 301 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: advance democratic power. Look at the jerry mandarin in states 302 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: like Illinois and New York, New Jersey, even North Carolina 303 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: where swing districts or GOP seats were redrawn into safe 304 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: Democratic strongholds. So I think Republicans are right to take 305 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: a closer look at situations like that abuse on the left. 306 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: But what they need to do. 307 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: And what I think is happening in Texas now, is 308 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 3: that they're ensuring that these maps are fair and that 309 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: voters voices aren't drowned out by these partisan jerry commanders. 310 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: And so you know, when you saw the outrage from 311 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 3: demicrats for free and fair maps, which was absolutely the 312 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 3: right thing to do. When you saw Newsome and even 313 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 3: Governor Hochel from New York like, you saw what their 314 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 3: outreach was. And I think that they're mad because they 315 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: know they can't win without rigging these districts. And so 316 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: even though the redistricting battle feels very parochial. 317 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: Like a state issue, what does it have to do 318 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: with me? 319 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 3: I think the fact that you had neighboring Democrats from 320 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: other states all across the country way in just shows 321 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: how desperate they are to keep their power, as opposed 322 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 3: to recognizing that we need to have fair maps, They 323 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: need to reflect voters. They cannot be drawned out, and 324 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 3: we can't have Jerry you know, Jerry Mandarin, as we've 325 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: seen in states to now. So I do think it matters. 326 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: I also want just comment on that because the census 327 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 3: is also obviously related to that, and President Trump has 328 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: had I think a lot of really great comments and 329 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: executive orders that are getting at this. But you know, 330 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 3: how the census does, the counting every ten years, has 331 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 3: a direct line to the redistricting of this. 332 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: And when you saw Democrat representative. 333 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: Of that clerk just a few weeks ago kind of 334 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 3: say the quiet part out loud as the as the 335 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 3: kids say when she said I need more migrants in 336 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: my district for redistricting purposes. I just thought, okay, well 337 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: that just like drop the mic. They can't Democrats can't 338 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 3: win elections honestly, so they're manipulating the system. Hence why 339 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 3: they fight so hard against the census just counting legal migrants, 340 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: and why they're so opposed to a strong border. Well 341 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 3: this has to do with, you know, the number of 342 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: people that are in their district. 343 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: What also just seems dumb to pick a redistricting fight. 344 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: When Republicans just have more opportunity to redistrict than the 345 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: left does, it seems like they're, you know, picking a 346 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: war that they cannot win, just one based on the 347 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: fact that, you know, Republicans hold more GOP trifect does 348 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: than Democrat trifect does, not saying that they could redistrict 349 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: in each of those states, but even punch bowld News 350 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 1: report it there's a potential for Republicans to pick up 351 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: at least a dozen or more House seats and redistricting efforts. 352 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: So like, if they really want to kick this off, 353 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: they're much more limited in what they're able to do. 354 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, like just looking ahead at 355 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: the midterms and try and read the tea leaves. You know, 356 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: it's interesting because like democrats approval ratings are in the toilet, 357 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: like we're we're going to rock bottom historical lows for 358 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: the left. Republicans are doing better with fundraising than the 359 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: left is right now. You know, but you look at 360 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: the real clear politics, and you know, you look at 361 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: the congressional ballot, Democrats are up, but right now it's 362 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: like four percent. So it's kind of like within the 363 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: margin of error if you look collectively, but you look 364 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: at history, and history would imply that Democrats would have 365 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: been back the house. So like looking at all those 366 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 1: different data points sort of telling different stories, like what 367 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: do things look like to you right now? 368 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think, you know, this is the same 369 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 3: challenge that Republicans have year over year, but I think 370 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: this cycle is different because twenty twenty four kind of 371 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: busted open the mold of how Republicans run elections. And 372 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 3: it goes back to our earlier point about building durable, 373 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 3: permanent infrastructures that will inform and mobilize voters. You have 374 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 3: to connect the dots between the national narrative back to 375 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: that local candidate. And the only way you connect those 376 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: dots is to go back to the basics of campaigning 377 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: with grassroots outreach and get out the vote and door 378 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 3: knocking and phone calls and consistent outreach to these voters 379 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: on the policy issues, telling them the goodness of what's 380 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: happening before you even talk to them about how to 381 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: vote or where to vote. 382 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: So that's the challenge right now. 383 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 3: It's why I think actually the fundraising numbers are so 384 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 3: exciting because you've got the RNC with eighty million plus. 385 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 3: On hand, I think those numbers were released earlier the summer, 386 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: so that they might even be higher today after they 387 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: had their big meeting in Atlanta last week, compared to 388 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 3: fifteen million for the DNC. That money not only does 389 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 3: it show strength and trust in the Republican Party, but 390 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 3: it can then be used to turn out voters earlier 391 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: and to have these conversations now and not waiting till 392 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: August first, twenty twenty six to start engaging with voters. 393 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: So I think that's huge. And you know, on the 394 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 3: larger issue of where the polling shows that the Democratic 395 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: Party is just you know, completely underwater. 396 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: I mean I read a stat this last week from a. 397 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal poll which which had the worst rating 398 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 3: for the Democratic Party in thirty five years. I mean, 399 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: that's that's remarkable when you think about everything that's happened 400 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 3: the last thirty five years. They're losing people. The registrations 401 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: show it, the movement from blue states to red states 402 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: show it, and then how they come down on these 403 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: policies show it. So when Democrats pick fights on common 404 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 3: sense is who is like the transgender issue in Virginia, 405 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 3: they're just on a losing side, and so I think 406 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 3: that all of these headwinds actually flip the narrative that 407 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty six midterms are going to be a 408 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: rebuke of the Trump administration. I think it's going to 409 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: be an embrace of the Trump administration. And not only 410 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 3: will Republicans be able to retain the Senate in the House, 411 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 3: but I think there's a pretty strong case to be 412 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: made that they can flip Georgia and retire John oss 413 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: Off in the Senate, and that they can fill that 414 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 3: open seat in Michigan, you know, with Mike Rodgers running 415 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 3: a second time there. So I think there's a lot 416 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: more to be optimistic about at this point. 417 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: We just have to do a lot of work between 418 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: now and next November. 419 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: Got to take a quick commercial break. 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Well, I'm almost even wondering if 422 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: Republicans pick up House seats because, like even on top 423 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: of the redistricting, which would give Republicans more of an 424 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: edge in these House races, like even before that, just 425 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: the starting point is that there are thirteen Democrats running 426 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: in Trump one seats and only three Republicans running in 427 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris won seats and so like, even just starting 428 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: off with the map, Republicans are already at somewhat an 429 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: advantage in the House, and then you add the registricting 430 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: element on top of it, you add the fundraising element 431 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: on top of it, you add the historic lows for 432 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: the Democrat party, and then considering what Trump's approval ratings 433 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: end up looking like heading into the midterms, like, I mean, 434 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, like that does create a scenario where 435 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: like maybe even Republicans pick up seats in the House. 436 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And those eleven to. 437 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: Thirteen House districts that are currently held by a Democrat 438 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: but Trump won and some of that, you know, obviously 439 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: it's going to change a little bit depending on how 440 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 3: some of this redistricting goes down. You've got Democrats in 441 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: there that aren't doing anything to come to show that 442 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: they are common sense. You look at Jared Golden in 443 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 3: Maine or Henry Quaar in Texas, like these are the 444 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: districts we're talking about here, Susie Lee and Nevada, like 445 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: these are not household Democratic names that you think are 446 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: coming across the aisle to show that they can work 447 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 3: with Trump right, they're in a trench. They continue to 448 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 3: caucus and vote with their Democrat majority, and that, to 449 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 3: me gives a huge opportunity for the House to run 450 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 3: a common sense Republican that can capture some of those 451 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 3: Trump voters in the district, but also show that they 452 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 3: themselves are common sense, that they're willing to work back 453 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 3: across the aisle, that they're willing to support things that 454 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 3: the majority of Americans actually support. And so I think 455 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 3: that universe, being as intense as it is, is the 456 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 3: first place I would start for the House to have 457 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 3: a good recruitment program, have good House Republicans that can 458 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 3: run in those districts and then win. And then on 459 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: the flip side, you know the three Republican districts that 460 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,479 Speaker 3: are represented by a Republican but Harris one. You know, 461 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 3: you know these names, Don Bacon, Mike Lawler, and Brian Fitzpatrick. 462 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: All three of them are Republicans that often reach across 463 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: the aisle to work with Democrats. So they're doing the 464 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: work that they need to do to show that they're 465 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: bipartisan back to their district. Now, Mike Johnson might not 466 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 3: like that, right, but there they enjoy the privilege of 467 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: that back to their. 468 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: District to ultimately win. 469 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 3: The same cannot be said about these thirteen Trump district Democrats. 470 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: And just to conclude on complacencies, the devil in politics. 471 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: So like, despite you know, obviously things looking good for Republicans, 472 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, voters need to turn out and so like, 473 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: all of that is moot if you know, people don't 474 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: show up to vote or don't send in ballots. Jessica Anderson, 475 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: President of the Sentinel Action Fund, appreciate you making the 476 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: time and appreciate your insight. 477 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me. 478 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: Those Jessica and Henderson, President of the Sentinel Action Fund, 479 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: Appreciate her for making the time to come on the show. 480 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, 481 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: but you can listen throughout the week. Also want to 482 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: thank John Cassio, my producer, for putting the show together. 483 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: Until next time,