1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: The Atlanta Braves is now officially the only major League 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: baseball team that is publicly traded, made its debut last week, 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: shares her down about nine point nine percent since then. 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: The team completed its spinoff from Liberty Media, creating two 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: separate companies, Liberty Media and Atlanta Braves Holdings. Joining us 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: now is Derek Schiller, Atlanta Braves President and CEO. He 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: is live from the Nasdaq, where he rang the opening 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: bell this morning. Derek, thank you so much for joining us. 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Congratulations on ringing the bell and the public debut. Are 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: you happy with the reception you have received from public markets? 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, I mean, first of all, this experience that 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: we had this morning. You know, as a baseball team, 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: we don't get this right. So having our executive management 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: team that's part of this, some of the Liberty Media 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: people participate, this has just been really fun and it 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: shows us yet another dynamic to what it is to 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: be a public team. So we're excited about it. We're 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: excited about what it represents for us, and you know, 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: we're going to continue to operate our business in the 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: best way that we know how. 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: It's certainly a new frontier. Derek obviously very early days. 22 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: I mean literally days here at this point. But have 23 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: you heard from any of your other peers with other 24 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: teams looking over at you, looking at it as a 25 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: trial balloon and saying, maybe we want to do the 26 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: same thing. 27 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose there's a great deal of curiosity around 28 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: all of professional sports. You know, it's a bit of 29 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: a fraternity, if you will. We all know each other 30 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: that sits in these positions, and so whether you're in 31 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: a baseball team, an NFL team, NBA, NHL, what have you, 32 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: we all kind of know each other. And there has 33 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: been a little bit of trading of thoughts as to 34 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: what this is. Curiosity is definitely the word of the day. 35 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: You know, what does it mean for you? What does 36 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: it mean for the organization? And you know, the answer, 37 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: the abbreviated answer that I tend to give people, because 38 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: I do think it relates a little bit to where 39 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: you're going, is I think that we have a lot 40 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: more lawyers and a lot more accountants that are looking 41 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: at us, but the way in which we operate our 42 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: business is actually the same, and for us, that's at 43 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: a really, really high level. And I think this gives 44 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: us an opportunity to showcase that high level in front 45 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: of a broader group of people, more than just our fans. 46 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: They get to see it in a way that they've 47 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: never been able to see it before. 48 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: But if the cost of that is more cost when 49 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: it comes to hiring attorneys and having to make all 50 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: of this disclosure, is all of the work that comes 51 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: with being a public company, What is the benefit that 52 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: you think you will receive? 53 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's a good question for liberty, probably 54 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: better ask more directly. I think what they would tell 55 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: you is we were coming off of a tracking stock, 56 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: and for those that know and follow tracking stocks, there's 57 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: inherently discounts that are associated with those, so such a 58 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: different way, you're not really unlocking the full value of 59 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: what the franchise is. And this change to being a 60 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: full asset backed equity gives the opportunity to, at least 61 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: in theory, unlock that value that was otherwise hidden or 62 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: not stored in the price, and then you know, you 63 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: you do also get a lot more attention because tracking 64 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: stocks are only to a limited amount of people that 65 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: might be interested in this. So this is anybody who's 66 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: looking to you know, trade equities and look at our stock. 67 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: This is something that becomes very appealing. And I would say, 68 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: not only is that somebody who might be an institutional 69 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: investor who knows a whole lot about the dynamics and 70 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: can model all this, but it could also be you know, 71 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 2: millions of fans that make up Atlanta Braves who say, 72 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 2: you know what, in addition to going to games and 73 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: buying a ticket for about the price of a ticket, 74 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: I can buy a share of the team and be 75 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: an owner. And that's kind of cool. 76 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a lot happening for fans. Not to mention, 77 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: our producer sent me this, the average MLB game is 78 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: now down thirty one minutes. I mean the changes, there's 79 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: the evidence they're making a difference. What difference has it 80 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: made to you in terms of attendance and viewership? 81 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: So this this has been a culmination of a study 82 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: that has been going on for many years, and huge 83 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: credit goes to Major League Baseball's Office commissioner on how 84 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: to figure out what's the best way to study these 85 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: things and implement them. These were ultimately all tested in 86 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: the minor league levels, so we understood the dynamics of 87 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: what was going to be happening learned from them, adjusted 88 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: and then ultimately rolled those changes out for the major 89 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: league level. And as a result of the combination of 90 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: those changes, things like the pitch clock and having you know, 91 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: a countdown on that and also having a reduction of 92 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: the shift, slightly larger bases, all things that theoretically should 93 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: get the game moving faster but also have more offense 94 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 2: gets produced. All those things are doing exactly what they 95 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: were intended to do. Our fans have shown that they're 96 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: very excited about that new product, and also, you know, 97 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: it's really impacting across Major League Baseball in big ways, 98 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: including US where most teams. Most teams are driving more 99 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: fans to their ballparks. We were up year over year 100 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: last year. We had three point one million p people 101 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: come through our doors last year, which is an enormous 102 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: amount of fans, and we're going to do even more 103 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: than that this year. 104 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So on the subject of your fans and on 105 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: the experience economy, if you will, which includes things like 106 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: attending baseball games, I wonder what your view is of 107 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: the wider economy right now, the macro picture, especially when 108 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: you're figuring out things like ticket pricing, it seems like 109 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: what you're saying is that you have seen an uptick 110 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: in demand, But if we are heading into a slower 111 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: growth environment, how would you adapt to that? Is that 112 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: what you anticipate? 113 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: Well, I think I would probably answer that question if 114 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: we were having this discussion five years ago, specifically pre COVID, 115 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: I would have answered that question far different. I think 116 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: one of the things that we have learned coming out 117 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: of COVID, and I don't think is a temporary situation. 118 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: I think people have realized the things that are valuable 119 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: in their lives. They're going to insist on doing, you know, 120 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: and if you find going to a braves game gives 121 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: you joy, which I believe it does, and you want 122 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: to spend your money towards that because that's something really 123 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: important to you. That's not something that you're going to 124 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: give up. And I realized you might have economic pressures 125 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: coming at you. But what we've seen in the past 126 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: year or two is as those forces hit families and 127 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: others evaluating those choices, they're continuing to choose to spend 128 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: their time in these community oriented places where we take 129 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: really good care of them. There's this connection to something 130 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: that's really valuable to them. That being the Atlanta Braves, 131 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: and they just want to stay with it. And oh, 132 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: by the way, it doesn't hurt that our team's playing 133 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: really well right now. 134 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: Yes it has. We're going to ask you about that 135 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: in just a moment, Derek, but listen quickly here because 136 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: we're about out of time. Diamond Sports, the largest owner 137 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 3: of regional sport networks, you know this, filed for bankruptcy 138 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: in March. Has the viewership change if I can just 139 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 3: go to Apple Friday Night watch, MLB has the model 140 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: now changed for local stations in terms of how we're 141 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: watching baseball. 142 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so a little bit back behind this, and it's 143 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: a complex situation, so bankruptcy involved. Of course, in our situation, 144 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: the Atlanta Braids, there's actually two rsns that are inside 145 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: of the Bally's ecosystem, and those two rsns cover Braves 146 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: games as well as a lot of other regional sports 147 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: entities in the geographic territory down in the southeast, things 148 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: like Atlanta Hawks games and others. Those two regionals are 149 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: doing relatively well in the grand scheme of things, and 150 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: for us, what we want to try to do as 151 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: they continue to do the things that they're required to 152 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: do under the contract. We're doing the exact same back 153 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: to them. We're going to monitor that, We're going to 154 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: make sure everybody's adhering to their contract, and at a 155 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: point in time, if there's a discussion to be had 156 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: about changing that, we'll address it. At this point in time, 157 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: we're operating business as usual with Bally's. I know there's 158 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: been disruptions in other markets, notably at least in baseball 159 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: San Diego and now Arizona. I don't know that I 160 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: see that happening as quickly in Atlanta, but it's something 161 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: that we are very much keeping our eye on, and 162 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: I think Baseball has a game plan to make sure 163 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: that this goes right. 164 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: You bring it at home, you win in the World Series. 165 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: Yes, we are bringing it at home. We are going 166 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: to do that. Knock on some wood somewhere, do whatever 167 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: you got to do to get yourself in a place. 168 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: But I think the World Series is coming through Atlanta. 169 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 3: All right. I don't have any wood around me, but metaphorically, 170 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 3: just imagine your mind. Now, I'm doing it for you, Derek, 171 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for Jordan Cayley and me today. 172 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: Derek Schiller, Atlanta Braves President and CEO,