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I 24 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: am Chad Moman very Special College Football Playoff Service Academy 25 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: Bonanza Episode. I'm joined as always by my bff, My Opanion, 26 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: mikel Padre, Mr Simon Hunter, and very special guests from 27 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: the Action Network are All Everything Analysts, Mr Stucky, the 28 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: one named Wonder and of course College Football All Podcasting Superstar, 29 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: King of the sec the Volumes, shiniest, Brightest Light, Jay Boy, 30 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: what's up, Jay Boy? What's up? Man? Uh? Really honored 31 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: to be back. I appreciate that intro and you're checked 32 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: in the mail. Chatt's how we got the address right? 33 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: Well we can confer after. I'm sure that it's right, 34 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: because these scenes get more expensive every single time. Stuck. 35 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: I want to start with you. You are a Service 36 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: Academy loyalist. You have always loved betting Service Academy games. 37 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: You seem to have a beat every year on how 38 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: these game games are going to play out. We've got 39 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: a very special service Academy game Army Navy on Saturday. 40 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: How are you thinking about it right now? Yeah, I 41 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: remember going to this game, you know, when he used 42 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: to be in Philly went growing up. I grew up 43 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: outside of Philly and my dad would take me. And 44 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: I remember the Clinton when he was president. I was 45 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: really young, so I can barely remember. But Bill Clinton 46 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: came into our section and then Secret Service had to 47 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: come and clear at first. That was my first memory 48 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: of this game. But yeah, I love this game every year. 49 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: I love the Service Academy teams that they played each 50 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: other because it's such a unique game. But those who 51 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: aren't familiar with the Service Academy football teams, they play 52 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: the triple option, and the reason they do that is 53 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: they're not getting the same caliber athletes and recruits that 54 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: some of these you know Power five schools and even 55 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: other schools get. So their competitive advantage now is they 56 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: played this unique style that on a week to week basis, 57 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: when they go and play someone they're not used to 58 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: seeing the triple option and it's all about you know, discipline, 59 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: and it's just a different offensive at the state and 60 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a shock to your system for defenses. 61 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: But when they play each other, they have all the 62 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: familiarity in the world with it because they practice against 63 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: each other every day of the year, so they're practically 64 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: against the triple option defense, and they know how to cover, 65 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: they know the assignments, they know how to stay discipline, 66 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: who gets the pitchman, who gets the uh, who gets 67 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: the running back, and you know all the motion and 68 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: how to how to defend the fullback dive. So when 69 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: they play each other a lot of times, especially arm 70 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: the Navy, these are really low scoring games because you know, 71 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: number one, they're running it the entire game. Both teams 72 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: the clocks always running. They're going for a lot of 73 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: fourth downs, so it's like fourth and one height, we'll 74 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: go for it. You just get two yards and then 75 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: you keep going and going and going, and then it's 76 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: really hard to score because both teams are familiar with 77 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: the other offense and they know how to defend it. 78 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: So you get these rock fights and I love them. 79 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: And that's the reason why Army Navy has gone under 80 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: the total fifteen straight years. And if you bet all 81 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: service academies, so Army Navy, Air Force, whenever they play 82 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: each other every year, unders and Service guid of games 83 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: are thirty eight and ten just under since two thousand five. 84 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: So that's why betting Army Navy is fascinating. Well, I 85 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: will tell everybody the total right now is thirty six 86 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: and a half. Army is a seven and a half 87 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: point favorite. It opened at eight. Say boy, like, I 88 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: would love to know, as someone who is steeped in 89 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: the SEC, why the funk would you care about Army Navy? 90 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: You know the tradition of the game. I think it's 91 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: the top five rivalry in sports just because of the cache. 92 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: And it's kind of you know, like like going to 93 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: the place you always go to eat, but ordering something 94 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: you've never ordered before. Like you go to the place 95 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: and you always order a type sandwich. You go in 96 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: there one day you're like, you know what, I'm gonna 97 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: mix it up. I'm gonna get something different. That's what 98 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: this game is gonna give you. Because I mean, Stuck's right, 99 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: Study's right, the biggest thing for Army and maybe they 100 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: can't go get the six pound offensive lineman number one. 101 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: A lot of those guys don't fit in submarines or planes, 102 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: and I guess David Robinson fitness submarines that may may 103 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: kill that theory, but they're unable to go get the 104 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: guys you see that can pass pro against you know, 105 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: legitimate four down TA tem legitimate three down teams that 106 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: bring pressure. And the triple option is tough. It's it's 107 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: a built in advantage because like jay Z said, less 108 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: is more man, there's plenty of us. The less guys 109 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: that are running a certain type thing, the more type, 110 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: the more exotic that thing is. Uh. And betting these 111 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: games are tough because you know, the rivalry game, they're 112 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: both gonna get up for it. They hear about it 113 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: all year. Uh. You know, for example, you look at 114 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: the way Auburn got up for Alabama and and how 115 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: they played Alabama compared to the way that Georgia did. 116 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: There was extenuating circumstances there. But you know, I look 117 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: at this game. Navy has had one of their least 118 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: talented teams that I've seen under under coach Cannon up there. 119 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: Uh that you know, played well against Cincinnati, but they're 120 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: not able to really consistently move the ball the quarter 121 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: but they're not able to hit home runs with the 122 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: quarterback like they were with Keenan Reynolds and some guys 123 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: in the past, you know the system they run. You 124 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: know you want you go nine, ten, eleven, twelve plays. 125 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: But in the past, Navies or excuse me, Army has 126 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: been able to kind of our Navy has been able 127 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: to quick strike you with with with guys that can move, 128 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: but Armies a better team. Having said that, I like 129 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: Navy plus seven and a half because I think it 130 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be a rock fight. I think it's gonna 131 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 1: be lows boring. Navy is gonna get up for this game. 132 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: So I like maybe plus seven and a half. But 133 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, you bet it because we hadn't had a 134 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: game in a while too. It feels like and it's 135 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: the only one, so hell. You know, if you like 136 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: Betton college football, there it is. Simon. Is it a 137 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: the Gen Special, Yeah, it's And like Stucky said, it's 138 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: a blind under every year, even if they made a thirty, 139 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: I might still think about betting the under. It's a 140 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: It's at that point now where every year every pro 141 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: I talked to was like, no, this is the year 142 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: is probably gonna go over and it's like, why why 143 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: go against the trend? Just keep betting the under, don't 144 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: overthink it. Don't try to be the smartest one the 145 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: rest of our lives. This is a bet I'll always make. 146 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: I'll always bet the under. It doesn't matter if they 147 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: hit the over five straight years. To keep ryding this trend, 148 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: it's it's at the point now where you just said 149 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: it's over the last couple of years. Just a Navy, 150 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: Air Force, Army matchups just always tend towards lean the under. 151 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: So the fact you're getting thirty six now, it's it's 152 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: a gift. I saw some books headed down at thirty 153 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: or four. I love when h Philly guys like Simon 154 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: and Stucky talk about a game being a rock fight, 155 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: because I feel like Philly guys have probably been in 156 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: rock fights. They know literally what that is. Like. Yeah, 157 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: I would say the closest we get is we would 158 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: play football on the street, tackle football, so not not 159 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: any one's front yard. You would just go in the 160 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: street and play football. That was definitely the closest I 161 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: came to a rock fight, y'all, booed Santa claus Man. 162 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: We threw batteries at him, and it wasn't the power 163 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: of the sleigh. Snowballs, snowballs filled with batteries at New 164 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: York Football Giants on the sidelines one year two. Yeah, 165 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: and just to close up the Army Navy discussion, I 166 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: do like Navy plus seven and a half as well. Look, 167 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: the markets starting to catch up to this. We're talking 168 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: about it. People have been talking about it. The average 169 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: over under from two thousand five to eighteen was fifty. 170 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: The last three years it's down the thirty seven. If 171 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: the total was thirty five and all the Army Navy games, 172 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: the under would have only went seven and nine. The 173 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: markets started to get close. I make it thirty three. 174 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of wind, and the Army 175 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: could actually throw it a little bit now, but so 176 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: I think that hurts their their passing game. All right. 177 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: There are actual college football playoff lines out right now, 178 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: even though the game's not for another three weeks. There 179 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: is an opportunity sort of in the first few days 180 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: to make a play and then the lines settle in 181 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: for a while. Stuck looking at this Georgia eight and 182 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: a half over Michigan Alabama two touchdowns over since total 183 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: forty four and a half Georgia Michigan fifty eight Alabama 184 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: since Have you made any bets on these games, where 185 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: do you see the greatest value so far? I did 186 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: play Cincinnati. A couple of books put it out a 187 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: sixteen and a half, which I thought was crazy. That 188 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: was way too high. So I got a little bit 189 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: down there, settled a little bit. At fourteen, you can 190 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: get a little bit more. I played fourteen on Cincinnati. 191 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: I think that number is too high as well. Alabama 192 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: looked phenomenal against Georgia, playing for everything, but we've seen 193 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: Alabama this year. I think it's namely because of their 194 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: young offensive line and secondary. They've been very inconsistent. You know, 195 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: you see them one week they look on stopfold. The 196 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: next week, you know they look like, oh wow, they 197 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: barely escaped Auburn, they barely escaped LSU, they barely escaped Florida. 198 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: So I think this is too many points, especially when 199 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: you consider that John Metchi, They're they're, you know, leading 200 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: receiver who was nineties six catches on the year, is 201 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: going to be out for this game. They don't really 202 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: have a third receiver and they haven't really needed one, 203 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: but someone else is gonna have to step up besides 204 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: Jamison Williams. And the difference what I think the difference 205 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: between Since and Georgia. Georgia got no pressure on Alabama 206 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: number one, which is the most surprising aspect that album 207 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: offensive line played well. But since Cincinnati has a much 208 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: better secretary than Georgia, they have the best corner in 209 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: the country in my opinion. In mot Gardner is probably 210 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: gonna go in the top ten in the NFL draft. 211 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: Who's given up zero touchdowns and over a thousand snaps. 212 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: He's given up a hundred and seventeen yards total on 213 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: the year. He takes away one side of the field, 214 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: so you know, and Kobe Bryant is also gonna be 215 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: playing in the NFL at corners like that. I mean, 216 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: their secondary is excellent, so I think Cincinnati secondary can 217 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: hang here. I don't think they're gonna get some flukes 218 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: to win the game, but I think two touchdowns is 219 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: too much. I think this line should be closer to ten. 220 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: When I'm looking at Cincinnati Bama. My biggest thing when 221 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: I look at this game and and at fourteen, I'm 222 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: gonna take Bama minus fourteen for a couple of reasons, Cincinnati, 223 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: I agree Stucky uh Sauce. Gardner is one of the 224 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: most top corners in the country. I don't think he's 225 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: seen Jamison though, and I'm wondering. I'm wondering and assuming 226 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna follow him around, especially now that Metchi's out. 227 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: The biggest thing that having Metchi out hurts Bama is 228 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: now they can bracket Jamison Williams a whole heck of 229 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: a lot easier without having to worry about getting their 230 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: pants pulled down on the back end. You can only 231 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: bracket so many people. But the difference to me is 232 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: and will always be up front and at the tight 233 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: end position. You know, it's a game of matchups that 234 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: will always be a game of matchups. You look at 235 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: Law to a guy that I think is snuck under 236 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: the radar this year, showed up big against Miami, has 237 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: made some big plays, kind of disappeared in the middle 238 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: of the year. Saw him a little bit against Auburn, 239 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: especially in the overtime, But his blocking has gotten so 240 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: much better throughout the year. Billingsley is is a matchup problem. 241 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: I mean, a guy that's over six ft four fifteen 242 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: pounds that can put outside and go win the jump ball. 243 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: But I love the inside and I love the scene. 244 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: You know, Cincinnati is pretty good in the back end. Uh. 245 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: You know, I I would say when you look at 246 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: them and Georgia from a draft standpoint, Sauce is obviously 247 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: gonna be the first guy that goes. But I think 248 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: depth wise, Georgia has them there. And I don't think 249 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's seen anything like Alabama. I mean, they struggled with Navy, 250 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: you struggle with Tulsa and with game day there. But 251 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: the game always comes down to upfront for me, and 252 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: I don't think Cincinnati is going to be able to 253 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: get pressure on Bryce Young, and when they do, I 254 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: don't think that they'll be able to get them down. 255 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: Brian Robinson's gonna be healthier. Jason McClellan is a guy 256 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: that is looking to get back that was leading Alabama 257 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: and touchdowns before he got hurt. And if Cincinnati can't 258 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: stop the run, you gotta start Robin Peter to pay 259 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: Paul in the box. And when you do that against Alabama, 260 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: with a guy like Bryce Young that can extend plays, 261 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna hit big plays, whether it's on crossers, whether 262 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: it's hitting back shoulders for chunk plays fifty five. And 263 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: then when they get in the red zone, you're gonna 264 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: see the tight end in that play action game in 265 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: Bryce's running ability, which if you watch Bryce throughout the year, 266 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: He's gotten so much more economical and more efficient in 267 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: the run game. You know, we do the show with 268 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: them every Monday. And one thing that he's talked about 269 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: his understanding. Hey, when they're in man and their backs 270 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: turn and I can escape up through the pocket, I 271 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: need to start going more because it just hits such 272 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: a built in advantage against the defense because you're playing 273 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: with less than a hat really than the offense when 274 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: you look at it truly with what Bryce can do. 275 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: So I do like Alabama. Then defensively, you're getting Chris 276 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: Allen back. I don't think Cincinnati will be able to 277 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: consistently drive the ball on Alabama's defense. I don't know 278 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: if they can protect will Anderson. I don't know if 279 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: the National Guard could protect if Will Anderson really wanted 280 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: to get in there. So I do like Bama. I 281 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: love their physicality, Nick Saban. They may not get up 282 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: sometimes for regular season games, and and they haven't this 283 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: year with a young team, but if you look, they 284 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: made some movement and some decisions on the offensive line, 285 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: McLoughlin moving guys around and found something they liked. And 286 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: if you can, Georgia, I promise you can block Cincinnati. 287 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: I think Nick wants to make a statement. They're still 288 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: using the underdog role even though they're number one, because 289 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Nick Saban is master splinter. 290 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: It was just a couple of weeks ago we had 291 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: J Boy on, we had Colin on and I sat here, 292 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: look at the camera. I said, take Obama. It was 293 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: plus six hundred National Championship. Well say that they're in 294 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: the final four. It feels like you're at the point 295 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: now where it's yese sees you know, title to lose. 296 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: Georgia's favorite, big favorite, damn is a big favorite. We 297 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: know the public's gonna be coming in on Michigan. We 298 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: know the publics canna be coming in on since it's 299 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting watching these lines move up and 300 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: down this upcoming week. J But do you feel like 301 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: it's the SEC's title to lose? I mean, the way 302 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: these matchups are we do for Obama Georgia rematch. I 303 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: I know that's what the sponsors want, you know, That's 304 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: how I guarantee you that's what they want. But yeah, 305 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: look and again, look Cincinnati is a great story to me. 306 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: But you know what else is a great story, Little 307 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: Red Riding Hood and I MCBAMA to beat them too. 308 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: And I've got a ton of respect for Luke Fickle. 309 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: He's going into the Power five and the Big twelve, 310 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: uh and and the Skies the limit for that guy's 311 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: an unbelievable coach. But again, look, Bama is still pissed. 312 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's a guy that grew up in Alburn, Alabama. 313 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: I know when Bama's pissed. I can see pissed Obama. 314 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: And they have been inconsistent, but I think they're starting 315 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: to put it together, and they show up for these games. 316 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: Nick Salman shows up for these postseason games, and you've 317 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: got tons of time with Bill O'Brien, who is literally 318 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: the Wizard of Oz. The more time you give them. 319 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: But looking at Georgia, I think this is a horrible 320 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: matchup for Michigan. You're not gonna go eight, nine, ten, eleven, 321 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: twelve plays consistently on Georgia and Cade McNamara is not 322 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: gonna throw you two wins. Cade mcnamarian stetson Bennett. I 323 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: swear the same person just like Jamison Williams and Jalen Waddle, 324 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: I swear are the same person. Michigan's got good players, 325 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: but I don't think they're going to be able to 326 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: score enough against Georgia. And Georgia, I think it's gonna 327 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: be able to hit enough plays. George Pickens coming back 328 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: is huge for the one on one, especially inside the 329 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: red zone. You're gonna get George Obama just because gravity's 330 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: gravity man stuck you get the final word. Yeah, I 331 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: just think we're we're having too much recency buys with 332 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: this Alabama. They aren't the Alabama team of last year 333 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: that was historically great. There's a reason this team. You're 334 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: telling me they didn't show up to play Auburn, their rival. No, No, 335 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: well Alburn Alabama, Man, I mean you can throw the 336 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: records out. I mean that's that's all right. Yeah, they 337 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: showed up for that game. So since the albaver gonna 338 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: show for this game l s U, I mean they 339 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: should have lost that game. They went twenty to fourteen 340 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: against up that and beat up and just completely ravaged 341 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: LSU team. They you know, beat an Arkansas team that 342 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: gets shut out by a couple opponents and have to 343 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: beat the five at home. Um, it's the team that 344 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: should have lost. The Florida was outplayed by what turned 345 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: out to be a bad Florida team. This team has 346 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: not been consistent all year. We see they have a 347 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: lot of talent, so we see flashes and then the 348 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: next week it's like, oh, what's wrong with this team? 349 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: They lose to zac Calzatta. You make zac Calzatta look good. 350 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: No one did that all year except Alabama. It was 351 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: thirty eight a Texas and takes four games for Texas 352 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: m to square that many points. So this team is 353 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: just so much recent biased. Last week it was Georgia, 354 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: and I didn't like Georgia last week, but it was 355 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: Georgia amount of six and half. Georgia's gonna kill Alabama. 356 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: Albama is one good performance. It's one game, and now 357 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: everyone just says, oh Albama. Well, I I don't think 358 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: you can use the term recency bias with Nick Saban, 359 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: who's dominated the sport going on a decade. I mean, 360 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: if that's recency bias, then then I don't know, you know, 361 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: why would we look in the past about anything? Why 362 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: do we look at trends? I don't think you can 363 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: compare Texas A and M with the Navy or s 364 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: m U. If you give Alabama that schedule, they're pulling 365 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: everybody's pants down, probably by five to thirty five. And 366 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: and this isn't a went off. Hey we're playing in 367 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: the minor Key Car Care Bowl and eight of our 368 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: starters are opting out. You're gonna get the full weight 369 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: of it. And you know, the Georgia Abama game, to 370 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: me that that's been the biggest hunt for Georgia. I 371 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: had Georgia winning that game. I thought they'd win seven 372 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: to ten points. It's amazing they keep getting up and 373 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: blowing it, whether it's halftime or getting up tendo in 374 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: the first quarter. I just don't see how you can 375 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: can look at that SEC schedule and then look at 376 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: Cincinnati schedule and say, you know, man, I just I 377 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: think we can compare losses. So if we're gonna say 378 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: that they barely beat A and M, Cincinnati barely beat Navy, 379 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: who's three and eight. They beat Tulsa by what had 380 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: to stop Tulsa at the goal line with game day there, 381 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: and we want to compare that to an Arkansas team 382 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: that won eight games and destroyed Texas. Even though that 383 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: seems to be a habit. So we're talking about showing up. 384 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: It's one thing if Jack Nicholson shows up to act, 385 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: and another thing if a B list actor shows up 386 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: to act. So I think if we're gonna use bias, 387 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: let's make sure we look at the draft and say, wow, 388 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: that's he sees one eleven out of the last fifteen 389 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: national championships, they absolutely dominate the draft. We're not talking 390 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: about winning the game. We're talking about covering fourteen. No, 391 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: that that's what I'm saying. I wouldn't. I wouldn't go 392 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: to win the game. No, No, it's I'm not arguing 393 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: to win. I'm arguing. If we're gonna say recency bias, 394 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: how can we say recently bias against Alabama. That's like saying, well, 395 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: Leo DiCaprio's mad, he's made good movies, but this next 396 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: movie coming out it's probably gonna suck. I mean, I 397 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: don't think you can use that use that optic when 398 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: you're using Cincinnattie and and Bama. You can use it 399 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: with Georgia and Obama, but I don't think you can 400 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: use it with Cincinnati Obama. But that still makes it fun. 401 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: And we'll see yeah, I mean it's still a market 402 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: data that. I mean. Now, the look at line for 403 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: Georgia Obama's one I mean it was it was just 404 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: six and a half. It's through five and a half 405 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: points and after one game. So obviously the and the 406 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: public has say say in this game, in this market, 407 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: at this time of the year. I just think that 408 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: this Albama team is nowhere close, nowhere close to what 409 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: this team was last year, which is a historically great team. 410 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: There's still lapses in the second dary in certain games. 411 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: If the offensive line is gonna play like it did 412 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: last week all year, then yeah, the offense is gonna 413 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: be great. But we've seen that for one game. So 414 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: I still think that this Alabama team is the second 415 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: best team in the country. I still have Georgia, I 416 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: agree with you on that. Where let's send down an agreement. 417 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: This is the beauty of the playing the game idea. 418 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna know on the thirty one? Was Stucky right? 419 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: Was he right to buy sixteen and a half? Was 420 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: right to buy fourteen? On Cincinnati? I don't know. Personally, 421 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: I want to see Alabama Michigan in the title game. 422 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: I think that's going to be a more interesting matchup 423 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: UH nationally than Alabama Georgia. Michigan is a great story. 424 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: To me, It's about the narrative. Michigan is a great story. 425 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: Michigan's fan base is bigger Northeast. Totally true. 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