Speaker 1: Also media welcome back to it could Happen here, a
Speaker 1: podcast that basically all of last week is about the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Republican National Convention, a four day period
Speaker 1: of time that I'm not sure ever ended or ever
Speaker 1: really had a beginning.
Speaker 2: As of right now, we are stuck in the hotel
Speaker 2: because what we initially thought was a hack and may
Speaker 2: just have been a fuck up pushing an update by
Speaker 2: cloud strike, but by any measure of the word, is
Speaker 2: like the greatest computer disaster of modern times has stranded
Speaker 2: every Republican in the country in the city of Milwaukee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are trapped with every single Republican in Milwaukee,
Speaker 3: Wisconsin as we wait for airports like a Stephen King bacne.
Speaker 3: It's feeling quite dystopian. We've already been dealing with a
Speaker 3: great deal of like dilation. Just this past week. This
Speaker 3: week has felt it first just felt like a month.
Speaker 3: Then it just felt like an eternity. Yeah, like we
Speaker 3: were just always reporting on the RNC. This is all
Speaker 3: we've ever done.
Speaker 2: Every single day of this was longer than my childhood.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I feel like all I've ever done is
Speaker 3: a person is be someone who reports on the RNC.
Speaker 3: This is just the entirety of my existence and life purpose.
Speaker 2: It's like that Star Trek episode where they have like
Speaker 2: the fake casino because they found these aliens found a
Speaker 2: stranded astronaut and to try to make him comfortable, like
Speaker 2: recreated a dime store novel, and all of these fake
Speaker 2: people have only ever lived in the casino, experiencing the
Speaker 2: same day forever. That's us. That's us at the RNC.
Speaker 3: So was only created to report on the RNC.
Speaker 2: Did I have a before? Did I have an after?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Yeah. Anyway, so we're doing well, is the
Speaker 2: short of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're mentally healthy and well and well suited to
Speaker 3: handle this political task.
Speaker 2: I guess the big story, the one that's really worth
Speaker 2: us talking about right now, is that last night you
Speaker 2: and I went to see the Trump speech spectacular. Now,
Speaker 2: every day of the convention, during the early part of
Speaker 2: the day, you'll have some speeches, and you'll have even
Speaker 2: some outside of the event. Different groups and organizations will
Speaker 2: you know, rent out hotel, ballrooms, conference rooms, they'll give speeches,
Speaker 2: they'll do panels, there's workshops, and obviously inside the wire,
Speaker 2: so to speak, you have different dignitaries politicians, you know,
Speaker 2: Ted Kruz will come by and I'll sit down to
Speaker 2: be interviewed by a podcaster, a radio host. Rudy Giuliani's
Speaker 2: doing the same thing. You've got all these people who
Speaker 2: do their shows live from the event, and then in
Speaker 2: the evenings, usually starting around like five to seven something
Speaker 2: like that, you start having speeches and part of what
Speaker 2: you know, speeches at the RNC are It's obviously it's
Speaker 2: a way to hype up the base. This is the base.
Speaker 2: And one of the things I try to get across
Speaker 2: to people. I posted on day one while there were
Speaker 2: some very dystopian shit coming out Marjorie Taylor Green's speech
Speaker 2: and whatnot, how empty you know the state was to
Speaker 2: be like, look, there's not that many people here. And
Speaker 2: someone was like, well, it's kind of dishonest to say that,
Speaker 2: because this is an invite on the event that you
Speaker 2: need credentials for. And well that's my point though, is
Speaker 2: like as crazy as a lot of this stuff is,
Speaker 2: and we're going to get into a lot of the crazy,
Speaker 2: you don't Also you don't want to discount it because
Speaker 2: these people are very powerful and they can do a
Speaker 2: lot of damage, and they there's a very good chance
Speaker 2: they're going to wind up with very close to total power.
Speaker 2: But they're also not representative of like a massive chunk
Speaker 2: of this country. Like these are the weirdest of the weird.
Speaker 2: These are the high freaks of Republican Party politics. These
Speaker 2: are the nabobs and priests and shamans of their political class.
Speaker 2: And so you shouldn't over extend the craziness to think that, like, well,
Speaker 2: every one of my neighbors who is a conservative is
Speaker 2: this kind of person. Now some of you do have
Speaker 2: neighbors who are this kind of person.
Speaker 3: So, and Trump's speech was certainly much more well attended
Speaker 3: than any other.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it was. It was also a very different
Speaker 2: vibe because all of those other knights, all of this.
Speaker 2: You know, a big part of what this is for
Speaker 2: the people who get speeches is like, we want to
Speaker 2: give you a reward for being a good party soldier,
Speaker 2: but no one wants to promise you a cabinet position
Speaker 2: right now. You know, we can't get like, so we'll
Speaker 2: give you a speech at the RNC. You can lead,
Speaker 2: and you can get on right before Tucker, you know,
Speaker 2: or you can come on right after Tucker or whatever
Speaker 2: like that. You know, and it's kind of how you
Speaker 2: it's one way to dole out favors, right, because it's
Speaker 2: good for people's you know, if you if you're head
Speaker 2: up an organization, it might get you some fundraising at
Speaker 2: any rate. It makes you look more connected at something
Speaker 2: you can brag about to your friends. You get to
Speaker 2: go backstage and be around the VIPs and whatnot, be
Speaker 2: a VIP yourself.
Speaker 3: And that's certainly the case for someone like the VEC right,
Speaker 3: someone who doesn't hold like that office, never has, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but he's trying to position himself as being, you know,
Speaker 3: an active part of this political project.
Speaker 2: Franklin Graham, Billy Graham's killer n gave a speech. That's
Speaker 2: not a guy who's you know, an elected leader, but
Speaker 2: he's a guy you want on your side. You let's
Speaker 2: give let's give him a nice position. We'll put him
Speaker 2: right after whole Cogan.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Which I.
Speaker 2: Guess is you know that that kind of gets it
Speaker 2: why Thursday was so different from the other nights because
Speaker 2: while the other nights felt like a political convention, because
Speaker 2: the dims do the same thing, right like that their
Speaker 2: speeches occupy roughly the same role in their party. Last
Speaker 2: night felt like a concert. Last night was the vibes
Speaker 2: of like a show. You are going to get hyped
Speaker 2: up and see a show. People were static. There was
Speaker 2: actually music acts, like not just the band that plays
Speaker 2: in between speeches, but Kid Rock came out and did
Speaker 2: a set.
Speaker 3: It was all a big put on performance. Yes it was.
Speaker 3: It was in many cases well put on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was very competently stage managed. There's no
Speaker 2: no denying that. We can talk about the content of
Speaker 2: the speech, and I've seen a lot of it, you know,
Speaker 2: same seater who you know. I like, I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to shit. I'm not gonna shit on Sam or anything.
Speaker 2: But I saw his take being like I felt like
Speaker 2: this was kind of this seems like it's a week speech.
Speaker 2: It's not very coherent. You know, people in the audience
Speaker 2: looked sleepy. That was not the vibe during Trump speech.
Speaker 3: I see where he's coming from, because this was one
Speaker 3: of the quieter Trump's speeches.
Speaker 2: Trump is quieter, Sure.
Speaker 3: I think this would be this This This was an
Speaker 3: intentional effort to blend some of his more classic talking
Speaker 3: points with this elder statesman kind of vibe and selectively
Speaker 3: utilizing the assassination attempt to talk about both yourself as
Speaker 3: this like broader political figure that that people should unite behind,
Speaker 3: because this incident really shows how divided we are, and
Speaker 3: what we really need to do to unite the country
Speaker 3: is stop attacking Trump, and that's the only way to
Speaker 3: do it. So like this, this was all on purpose
Speaker 3: and kind of using that more sympathetic unity messaging to
Speaker 3: squeeze in all of his same extremely far right talking points,
Speaker 3: just slipping in between you know, calls for like unity
Speaker 3: and ending division and all of that.
Speaker 2: And also the fucking the boys are playing in women's
Speaker 2: sports and.
Speaker 3: The Canni elector the late great.
Speaker 2: He had a Hannibal But we should We're getting ahead
Speaker 2: of ourselves, But I do want to just kind of
Speaker 2: say upfront my take differs from what I've seen from
Speaker 2: Sam Cedar and what I've seen from a number of
Speaker 2: folks who watched, you know, the closed circuit version of this.
Speaker 2: The audience loved it. Yeah, like they loved it, and
Speaker 2: you can you can taste in the air the degree
Speaker 2: to which they loved Trump. This is like not if
Speaker 2: you have not been to one of these rallies, And
Speaker 2: even this is different because I've been to you know,
Speaker 2: a regular Trump rally. This was different than that because
Speaker 2: this is again like the most dedicated chunk of the base.
Speaker 2: It's very much a religious experience for these people.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, it definitely had that spiritual vibe. So the first
Speaker 3: speaker we wanted to really get to in person to
Speaker 3: hear talk with Tucker, and Tucker, you have a very
Speaker 3: efficient speech. He did not read off a teleprompter. He
Speaker 3: was at living the.
Speaker 2: Best speech at the convention.
Speaker 3: He was, he was, he was. He was a pretty
Speaker 3: good speaker. And I know we often will make fun
Speaker 3: of kind of Tucker's mode of speaking on television, which
Speaker 3: can off as a little bit like disjointed and kind
Speaker 3: of just like confused, you know, he has that like resting,
Speaker 3: confused look on his face. He was a very good
Speaker 3: live performer. Yeah, this he gave a stronger live performance
Speaker 3: than I think what a lot of his televised performances
Speaker 3: come off out.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 2: He gave an ridit and smooth summary of fascist ideology
Speaker 2: of specifically what used to be called the Futor prinzip
Speaker 2: or Fewer principle, which is this idea that came out
Speaker 2: of the Nazi movement of a nation being embodied by
Speaker 2: a man, and the man is accountable to the people,
Speaker 2: not in a sense that we would consider like checks
Speaker 2: and balances, but in some deep spiritual connection that they have.
Speaker 2: And Tucker very directly like like hearkened to that. He
Speaker 2: made a comment about like, you know, Trump talked to
Speaker 2: me and he was like, you know, when I got shot,
Speaker 2: I expected to see the crowd running, screaming, stampeding, panicking,
Speaker 2: and no one did. And Tucker was like, that's because
Speaker 2: you're the leader, and the leader the people the leader,
Speaker 2: and they you know, you didn't panic, so they won't panic.
Speaker 2: It's the most direct old style. This is nineteen twenties
Speaker 2: Nazism stuff that Tucker is throwing out, and he he
Speaker 2: discussed it in a way that was very smooth and
Speaker 2: very palatable to American ears. And that was the most
Speaker 2: chilling part of the night for me, because Trump's speech
Speaker 2: was not a particularly I think back to twenty sixteen
Speaker 2: and I was at the R and C in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: Trump's speech on the last night of the R and
Speaker 2: C was his blood in the Street speech. It was
Speaker 2: a he was angry, it was aggressive, it was a
Speaker 2: violent speech, right, and there were there were moments, certainly
Speaker 2: of violence in his speech, but not much. That was
Speaker 2: not the overall vibe. That was not what he built towards.
Speaker 2: It wasn't the thing he ended on, and it was
Speaker 2: never really a focus. But what Tucker was focusing on
Speaker 2: was getting people on board the concept that they are
Speaker 2: bonded to Trump in a spiritual sense, and that the
Speaker 2: nation is and that Trump is the leader, not by
Speaker 2: dint of having been elected, but by dint of some
Speaker 2: sort of psycha like psycho religious, mystic bond.
Speaker 3: Tucker was also the first guy I heard of the
Speaker 3: convention to mention Antifa at all, first and only saying
Speaker 3: you and tifa' is the Democrats owned militia, which is,
Speaker 3: you know, something that you would hear four years ago.
Speaker 3: And right before Tucker's speech, I actually was talking with
Speaker 3: Robert being like, hey, I've not heard anyone mention in
Speaker 3: Tifa this entire week, and like this was used to
Speaker 3: be such a big thing in their political messaging both
Speaker 3: like four years ago, two years ago, and this week,
Speaker 3: it was just completely absent. You know. Obviously it has
Speaker 3: been replaced by some of this like gender ideology, groomer
Speaker 3: kind of transpanic type stuff, but it is a noticeable
Speaker 3: absence in the current talking points of the Republican Party,
Speaker 3: say for this one mentioned by Tucker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, during Trump' speech, I don't even
Speaker 2: recall him bringing up the radical left. He didn't even
Speaker 2: He made a couple of joke and these those one.
Speaker 2: Two of the jokes that got the best crowd response
Speaker 2: from him is he would bring up Biden, but they say,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to mention his name. I promise I
Speaker 2: won't talk about him, you know, And that got a
Speaker 2: laugh every time that he did it, which I counted twice.
Speaker 2: He did make one reference to the shooter and said
Speaker 2: he tried to stop our movement, greatest movement in the
Speaker 2: history of the country, and that was interesting to me.
Speaker 2: I think that he was kind of playing easing off
Speaker 2: the gas on that one, because there's still so much
Speaker 2: that's uncertain about the shooter and his motives. I went
Speaker 2: to work out today because the morning after convention, that's
Speaker 2: kind of how I purged the hangover from my body.
Speaker 2: And I was watching Fox News on the TV in
Speaker 2: the gym. And I don't watch television news much because
Speaker 2: I'm a person who has to do things, but it
Speaker 2: is useful sometimes because it connects you with how an
Speaker 2: unfortunate number of people in this country do and take
Speaker 2: their news. And this morning one of the reports was
Speaker 2: about the shooter and how the FBI had found that
Speaker 2: he had three ENCRYPTID accounts offshore overseas that there's trying
Speaker 2: to break into. They are referring to I think discord
Speaker 2: kind of accounts and stuff like that, Like he might
Speaker 2: have like an we have.
Speaker 3: Like a WhatsApp, he might have WhatsApp in account.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an encrypted email possibly, Yeah, the stuff that
Speaker 2: like I have most people have. But they were like,
Speaker 2: so this makes it even more likely that Iran is involved,
Speaker 2: you know, there's some sort of a rant because like
Speaker 2: overseas that means Iran. Oh Man, there's lots of companies
Speaker 2: that have encrypted apps that aren't based in the we
Speaker 2: I used to shill for a VPN that was based
Speaker 2: I think Nord is based in Switzerland. Maybe I'm wrong
Speaker 2: about that, but like some of the VPNs are based
Speaker 2: in Switzerland and like these are not. It's not the
Speaker 2: fact that it's overseas does not mean there's any tie
Speaker 2: to anything other than this kid, like a lot of
Speaker 2: people had, was used in encrypted messaging platforms. Obviously I'm interested,
Speaker 2: you know, if the FBI went if or when they
Speaker 2: get into that stuff, what they find. But I don't
Speaker 2: think they're going to find that the fucking Ayatola gave
Speaker 2: this guy a five hundred dollars AR fifteen and fifty
Speaker 2: ounce of ammunishit.
Speaker 3: That is certainly doubtful. I mean, yeah, I think Ta
Speaker 3: Tucker had some of the best audience reactions since Marjor
Speaker 3: Taylor Green's speech. He called jd Vance a friend said
Speaker 3: that Dvance's politics are closer to the average Trump voter
Speaker 3: than anyone else in Washington. And yeah, just an overall,
Speaker 3: very very polished speech.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should probably do an ad break now, huh,
Speaker 2: we should. We're back. So after Tucker, we had a
Speaker 2: couple other people come on. There was a woman who
Speaker 2: worked for an education a conservative education political activist group,
Speaker 2: who her whole thing was, you know, I worked in
Speaker 2: prisons for a while and then I switched over to
Speaker 2: working in schools, and the thing that shocked me is
Speaker 2: our schools are so much more about our schools are
Speaker 2: like prisons, which I was like, well, actually, there's a
Speaker 2: lot to be said about the way and with some
Speaker 2: of the same technology right, yes, no, this is there's
Speaker 2: a lot to do. And then you was like, because
Speaker 2: children are much more violent than convicted felons, Like, oh,
Speaker 2: a lot. Of what she was saying is that, like
Speaker 2: schools are completely out of control. And obviously, in the
Speaker 2: wake of the height of the COVID pandemic and the lockdown,
Speaker 2: school violence did soar. It's been coming back down overall,
Speaker 2: schools have been getting less violent in every single way
Speaker 2: but shootings for twenty straight years. And that is that
Speaker 2: is the case now, like under in Joe Biden's America, schools,
Speaker 2: like violence that is not related to shootings is going down.
Speaker 2: But what she was saying is that, like we need
Speaker 2: to be able to expel and suspend kids, particularly suspend
Speaker 2: kids more often for bad behavior. There is actually quite
Speaker 2: a bit of data that shows that when you suspend children,
Speaker 2: it makes them more likely to offend and disrupt class
Speaker 2: in the future, Like it increases the problems that you
Speaker 2: are supposed to be stopping. Like most conservative measures that
Speaker 2: are kind of like punitive in nature, it doesn't actually
Speaker 2: do the trick. I don't know why I'm arguing with
Speaker 2: this lady, but it is important that like that's a
Speaker 2: big part of how they're pitching what ultimately is a
Speaker 2: plan to win the Department of Education to parents is like,
Speaker 2: your schools are so dangerous for your kid, you need
Speaker 2: to be able to have a voucher to send them
Speaker 2: to a private school. And we need to be able
Speaker 2: to kick these underperforming black students out of schools in
Speaker 2: order to make them safer for everybody, right, and shuffle
Speaker 2: them off into the car serral system.
Speaker 3: Right. This whole speech was kind of a coded way
Speaker 3: of talking about like urban crime. She blamed this problem
Speaker 3: on an Obama Biden policy to limit suspension rates, which
Speaker 3: Trump undid, and yeah, said that the solution is both
Speaker 3: more suspensions and more school resource officers, which the Kido
Speaker 3: Institute says actually increases the number of Island instants in schools.
Speaker 3: So but again, of course they're going to call for
Speaker 3: more police. This is the republic Party.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't know why we even bother like fact checking.
Speaker 2: This is important because I care, like and you care,
Speaker 2: and but like our audience knows, the lady that gets
Speaker 2: up to talk about school policy at the RNC is
Speaker 2: not going to be bringing out good policy.
Speaker 3: But this is just how everything works, Like this just
Speaker 3: kind of underlines the alternate world that is formed in
Speaker 3: places like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't you can't fight these people with facts.
Speaker 2: That is the mistake liberals always make. It's like, well,
Speaker 2: if we can just out argue them, if we can
Speaker 2: get them, give them in front of the American people
Speaker 2: and see how bankrupt their ideas are. And that's not
Speaker 2: how you do it. Now. That's not to say that
Speaker 2: you shouldn't get out and engage with them, because what
Speaker 2: does work is showing the American people reminding them these
Speaker 2: are freaks. These people are weird. These people are off putting,
Speaker 2: These people are scary, and you don't want to be
Speaker 2: around them, and by god, you don't want them with
Speaker 2: their finger on the button. Like I do, think that
Speaker 2: consistently works.
Speaker 3: And unfortunately that freaks nature can sometimes help them, like
Speaker 3: when you pull out hul covid onto stay waving an
Speaker 3: American flag, calling Trump his hero and his gladiator.
Speaker 2: And talking about how, yeah, all of America are gonna
Speaker 2: be the Trump bites. That's what they're gonna call him,
Speaker 2: which apparently he used to do with nWo back in
Speaker 2: the day, back in his glory day. He got he
Speaker 2: couldn't stop himself from talking about beating Andrea the Giant
Speaker 2: at WrestleMania. I think was like nineteen eighty three. He
Speaker 2: made two different Andre the Giant references, both of which
Speaker 2: were very mean to Andre the Giant, who I wish
Speaker 2: Oh Andre, No, the wrong one died.
Speaker 3: Al Cogan compared the energy of the RNC to a
Speaker 3: WWE match, which he is not wrong, not wrong, It's
Speaker 3: very similar.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not gonna like Hull Cogan understands this crowd, oh.
Speaker 3: More than almost more than maybe any other actual speaker. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like like Tucker kind of understands them, but Hull Cogan
Speaker 3: even more so.
Speaker 2: They loved him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When he ripped his shirt off.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, tank top underneath.
Speaker 2: That was the best moment of the r NC. That
Speaker 2: was the moment where I was like, all right, fuck it.
Speaker 3: He said that he usually stays out of politics, but
Speaker 3: after what happened on Saturday, he could no longer stay silent,
Speaker 3: and then spend you know, the rest of the speech
Speaker 3: just praising Trump, saying how tough he is, saying that
Speaker 3: you know, he's survived all these court cases, these investigations, impeachments,
Speaker 3: and we need a tough man to take on like politicians, criminals,
Speaker 3: and drug dealers, and no, it was it was a
Speaker 3: in a week full of kind of surreal moments where
Speaker 3: you're seeing these people that you only interact with on
Speaker 3: a screen. Yeah, you just see them walk past you
Speaker 3: like all the time, every day. This was certainly one
Speaker 3: of the most surreal.
Speaker 2: And Cawthorne nearly hit me with his wheelchair. And I'm
Speaker 2: not the only one I talked to with that story.
Speaker 2: He's a little reckless, So I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 3: Maybe he thought you were a tree.
Speaker 2: Maybe he thought it was a tree. I love that
Speaker 2: we saw two people, two Republicans at this convention, both
Speaker 2: of whom have a tragic tree story. So I'm talking
Speaker 2: about Greg Abbott.
Speaker 3: They made the kind of baffling decision on the schedule
Speaker 3: to put Franklin Graham after Hulk Hogan.
Speaker 2: Not nice to Franklin Graham, to be honest. No, yeah,
Speaker 2: because he's he did the thing that like usually gets
Speaker 2: a good reaction, which is the prayer. Right He's there
Speaker 2: to do the prayer, and this is a good crowd
Speaker 2: for a prayer, right, Like, that's not a that's not
Speaker 2: like a lame thing to these people. They love doing that,
Speaker 2: but no one's heart was fully into the prayer after
Speaker 2: Hulk like, you can't you can't get the people.
Speaker 3: It's a tough compdown.
Speaker 2: It's a tough come down from Hulk Hogan ripped his
Speaker 2: shirt off on stage too. Now let's bow our heads
Speaker 2: and thank God.
Speaker 3: But if you didn't grow up an evangelical circles of
Speaker 3: Franklin Graham is the son of Billy Graham, possibly the
Speaker 3: most famous pastor in American history, at least in the
Speaker 3: past one hundred.
Speaker 2: Years, since sinners in the hands of an angry God,
Speaker 2: like the most popular man of faith in the country.
Speaker 3: And he closed his prayer by saying, all authority comes
Speaker 3: from you, speaking of God, and we ask if it
Speaker 3: be thy will that you will make America great once again.
Speaker 3: Just a wonderful, a wonderful Christian message.
Speaker 2: Uh huh grand So that was nice.
Speaker 3: Eric Trump gave a very Uh he tried his best,
Speaker 3: which is basically what Trump said.
Speaker 2: Again, you, Hulk Hogan has just been on, Trump is
Speaker 2: about to be on. It is the last night of
Speaker 2: the RNC and everyone is absolutely certain of victory. So
Speaker 2: as a speaker tonight, you couldn't be more teed up
Speaker 2: for a good reaction, and he could barely get laughs.
Speaker 2: He could barely get cheers. Like even when he did
Speaker 2: the anti trans stuff, it didn't get it got a
Speaker 2: muted reaction, not because people aren't bigoted, because they loved
Speaker 2: it when Marjorie Taylor Green did the say, they loved
Speaker 2: it when Trump did Eric Trump just sucks yeah at speaking,
Speaker 2: probably at everything, but he they he did not get
Speaker 2: a reaction. I cannot overemphasize to you how little this
Speaker 2: crowd wanted to listen to Eric.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean he shout it out. Monster Liberty
Speaker 3: said that the Trump admin we'll fight against brainwashing, and
Speaker 3: schools will fight against homeless people, specifically taking resources from
Speaker 3: veterans and of course trans people in sports.
Speaker 2: He kept bringing up Ukraine to stealing resources from Americans.
Speaker 2: He was like the most brought up Ukraine in a
Speaker 2: derogatory since more than I think any other single speaker
Speaker 2: at the convention, which is interesting because his dad took
Speaker 2: even a bit of a different tact with that. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I found that interesting. But I did not find his
Speaker 2: speech interesting because he is a bad speaker.
Speaker 3: Now. The only line I found interesting is when he
Speaker 3: was talking about how all of Donald Trump's political enemies
Speaker 3: aren't just happy going after him, but also going to
Speaker 3: be going after every Republican. And he said the greatest
Speaker 3: retribution will be our success. Yeah, and they've been using
Speaker 3: netword a lot this year, retribution, retribution.
Speaker 2: And you know, he did kind of in the end,
Speaker 2: getted a little bit of applause. That'say. It was like
Speaker 2: the fifth or sixth best standing ovation of the night.
Speaker 2: So again, he at his best, was never able to
Speaker 2: really rile.
Speaker 3: Them up, especially when's talking about the assassination attempt to mean, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the crowd chounting fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what got them back on board. And interesting
Speaker 2: they loved talk about that, I think in part because
Speaker 2: it had been so absent earlier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was talking about way more today than well,
Speaker 3: basically all the other days of the week combined.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that makes sense. I mean, it was
Speaker 2: the day that Trump came out to speak, you know, and.
Speaker 3: You know what we're going to talk about now or
Speaker 3: not talk.
Speaker 2: About assassinating your thirst with hopefully a soda company advertising
Speaker 2: on the podcast. Otherwise, this ad segue is not going
Speaker 2: to make much sense.
Speaker 3: All right time for Donald Trump himself, He's coming out
Speaker 3: they set this stage, they got.
Speaker 2: Everything ready d to be an American.
Speaker 3: And then they announced kid Rock.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, and he comes out and the whole
Speaker 2: stage is wreathed in massive screens, like dozens of feet tall,
Speaker 2: and they all are portraying fire and American.
Speaker 3: Flag, American flags that look kind of like they're on
Speaker 3: fire burning.
Speaker 2: Kid Rock comes out and does a rap set to
Speaker 2: burning American flag surrounding him.
Speaker 3: It was kind of just a fascinating image for the RNC.
Speaker 2: The refrain is they call me Cowboy. He said that
Speaker 2: like forty times, and he just kept going Trump, Trump, Trump, Fight, Fight,
Speaker 2: Fight in.
Speaker 3: They loved it. They loved it was It was very
Speaker 3: high energy. It was it was a concert. Everyone everyone
Speaker 3: ever had a great time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it got a good reaction. People were hyped up.
Speaker 2: It is the loudest, stupidest thing I have ever seen
Speaker 2: in my life, but it got a really good reaction.
Speaker 2: People loved Kid Rock coming out. It's interesting to me
Speaker 2: that they chose to have Kid Rock basically lead directly
Speaker 2: to the president rather than than the Hulkster. But I
Speaker 2: don't know. If I were if I had been setting
Speaker 2: this up, I would have done Franklin Graham school Lady
Speaker 2: Eric Trump, all the weak ones up first, and then
Speaker 2: probably Tucker the Hulkster kid rock you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the NS should really hire you to man their schedule.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm available, guys.
Speaker 3: So after we all kid rocked out, technically, Dana White
Speaker 3: gave the introduction.
Speaker 2: Or Dana White. Yeah, they bring in Dana White, who
Speaker 2: has who is the UFC CEO. Yeah, who is also
Speaker 2: on video hitting his wife in the face. This is
Speaker 2: not a debatable, he said. She said he is on video.
Speaker 2: You can watch it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he gave a very very typical strength and
Speaker 3: security speech to introduced Trump, who emerged from behind one
Speaker 3: of the big the big screens.
Speaker 2: Well, Proud to be an American plays and like the
Speaker 2: entire crowd stands up and they're all singing along to
Speaker 2: Proud to be an American. They love that song.
Speaker 3: He'd started his speech, and one of the interesting things
Speaker 3: is that he said that he's going to tell the
Speaker 3: story of what happened at the assassination attempt here right now,
Speaker 3: but won't tell it ever again because it's too painful
Speaker 3: to tell.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'll be interested to see how often he does,
Speaker 2: because it is like just based on his body language,
Speaker 2: because he's been out every night but not saying anything,
Speaker 2: and he does has looked a bit different, and I'm
Speaker 2: not going to do the whole thing. Some of the
Speaker 2: fucking you had some like Politico being like, it's a
Speaker 2: new Trump, He's become a statesman. They definitely that's what
Speaker 2: the RNC is trying to sell you on. That's nonsense.
Speaker 2: But he has changed in the way that like you
Speaker 2: would be if you were shot in the head and survived,
Speaker 2: you know, like anyone is go like, he's not a robot, right,
Speaker 2: Like anyone is going to be affected by that. And
Speaker 2: he might not have been lying. He might just have
Speaker 2: been like, look, I have to talk about this once.
Speaker 2: I really don't want to keep talking about this because
Speaker 2: it's fucked up.
Speaker 3: I mean, one of the parts actually felt genuine, or
Speaker 3: we're certain sections this where he was like saying like
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I was not supposed to be here tonight,
Speaker 3: and the crowd was like.
Speaker 1: Yes you are.
Speaker 2: He was like no, no, no, really close.
Speaker 3: You know, he was thanking God. I don't know how
Speaker 3: genuine that is for him, and how much of that's
Speaker 3: political posture.
Speaker 2: Yea that I don't necessarily believe.
Speaker 3: That that's just kind of what you have to do.
Speaker 2: He certainly knows that he barely made it out of
Speaker 2: that fucking speech.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he pointed to thessassination attempt as a sign
Speaker 3: of how divided this country has been. A very world
Speaker 3: trying to find the guy who did this moment. And
Speaker 3: he called the Democrats to stop the witch hunts if
Speaker 3: they want to unify the country, saying, quote, we must
Speaker 3: not demonize political disagreement, and the Democrats should quote stop
Speaker 3: weaponizing the Justice Department against Trump and labeling him an
Speaker 3: enemy of democracy. So he's saying the way to actually
Speaker 3: unify this country is just to stop stop bad. Yeah,
Speaker 3: stop saying orange man bad. That's really what he was.
Speaker 3: That's what he was getting at.
Speaker 2: Well, and I you know, you get if you want
Speaker 2: to see the things that you can gain from this
Speaker 2: that are useful in how to fight these people. They
Speaker 2: are scared of the attacks that portray Trump as an
Speaker 2: enemy of democracy. The Project twenty twenty five focus was
Speaker 2: hurting Republicans and polling and the fact that the DIMS
Speaker 2: have pulled back maybe.
Speaker 3: Not mentioned in a single speech this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody talked up twenty twenty five. You know, even
Speaker 2: the Heritage Foundation. People were notably cagier about it than
Speaker 2: you might expect in their interviews with the press. Ye,
Speaker 2: because they do know that it's not a good it's
Speaker 2: not great for them to bring up now, it's not popular.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, slowly, Trump's speech got more and
Speaker 3: more Trumpian rights, saying that Democrats are destroying our country,
Speaker 3: talking about, you know, immigrants invading our country, as he said,
Speaker 3: he said the word invasion many, many times, Yeah, saying
Speaker 3: that they're that, saying that legal immigrants are killing hundreds
Speaker 3: of thousands of people a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the fentanyl thing. It's even though ninety fentyl
Speaker 2: is brought into US sports of entry by US citizens. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that line actually was one of the through lines that
Speaker 2: was almost every day of this. I heard someone mention
Speaker 2: that we've lost as many or more Americans to fentanyl
Speaker 2: as we did in World War Two. At one point,
Speaker 2: it might have been in Trump's speech. It was even
Speaker 2: framed as like more people have died from fentanyl than
Speaker 2: died in World War Two, and like, well, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: a lot of people died in World War two, just
Speaker 2: not that many Americans really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of World War two era Germany in.
Speaker 2: Trump's little section, we sure did get a mention there.
Speaker 3: In Trump's little section about inflation, he gave a fascinating comment, yeah, saying, quote,
Speaker 3: you can go back to Germany one hundred years ago
Speaker 3: unquote to see the negative effects of inflation. Yeah, waiting
Speaker 3: to like find Maar era Germany.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're talking about VYMR. He's talking about like
Speaker 2: what immediately preceded the Nazis coming to power.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and but like also framing it as like I'll
Speaker 3: be the one to get us out of inflation, which
Speaker 3: is very similar messaging as the fascist movements did, saying
Speaker 3: to Germany that was in you know, in a real
Speaker 3: economic issue, we will be the ones to fix this
Speaker 3: through through nationalism, closing our borders, through putting Germany first,
Speaker 3: Like that is it's it was. It was a very
Speaker 3: very odd comparison for Trump to make. I don't know
Speaker 3: how well he thought through that. I don't believe that
Speaker 3: was this was like an intentional coded.
Speaker 2: Messa didn't It didn't seem like.
Speaker 3: I don't think Trump works that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely does have teleprompters sometimes, but he also
Speaker 2: he is like a good public speaker. He doesn't just
Speaker 2: stick religiously to it, you know, And that did strike
Speaker 2: me as a line that may have just come right
Speaker 2: out of the heart.
Speaker 3: Now, he had a few other interesting things in the economy.
Speaker 3: He was talking a lot about increasing car manufacturing jobs,
Speaker 3: including saying the leader of the United Auto Workers should
Speaker 3: be fired and promising to put tariffs of one hundred
Speaker 3: to two hundred percent on all foreign made cars, which
Speaker 3: would I'm sure do some real.
Speaker 2: Stuck up on your toyotas now, folks, well they make
Speaker 2: a lot of them in the US.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that would really help the economy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which is like I mean, part of the
Speaker 2: there's a lot to say about that. One thing that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Someone had told you, because you were the first person
Speaker 2: to bring this up to me. There were strong rumors
Speaker 2: that really a midday before the speech started percolating that
Speaker 2: Elon Musk was going to show up and introduce or people.
Speaker 3: I heard this from like Thursday morning.
Speaker 2: Which may mean that they were just getting some bullshit.
Speaker 2: It may mean that there were actually talks, right, I'm
Speaker 2: sure because Musk has been real like Musk has been
Speaker 2: trying to get Trump's attention. Yeah, that's beyond debate. He
Speaker 2: wants Trump on Twitter and he wants Trump. You know,
Speaker 2: he's he's been making all these statements about how much
Speaker 2: money he's going to donate to Trump and now he's
Speaker 2: endorsing him. Now, do I actually think he's gonna give
Speaker 2: the RNC forty five million dollars a month? No, he's
Speaker 2: going to find some bullshit way he's going to give
Speaker 2: him something. But he's gonna fight. He's he's never spends
Speaker 2: gives Like that's too much money for him to want
Speaker 2: to spend on them, right, Like, I think he's going
Speaker 2: to fuck them the way he fucks everybody over. But
Speaker 2: it was interesting to me how much talk there was
Speaker 2: of him showing up and absolutely no eelon. And in fact,
Speaker 2: there was a moment where Trump was like, hey, electric
Speaker 2: cars are fine for some things, but like we got
Speaker 2: to subsidize gas cars.
Speaker 3: Yeah. He talked about, you know, increasing drilling in the
Speaker 3: United States and kind of the last big topic that
Speaker 3: he went to was the border. He pointed to the
Speaker 3: to the little border patrol chart that he looked at
Speaker 3: the split second before those shots fired, which saved his life.
Speaker 3: So you can thank the border patrol chart for that.
Speaker 3: He said that Mexico and South American countries are sending
Speaker 3: murderers and people from a sane asylums into the United States.
Speaker 2: It was interesting because Naibukell of El Salvador, it keeps
Speaker 2: getting brought up as like a Trumpian figure, is like,
Speaker 2: this is the kind of leader Trump wants to be.
Speaker 2: Look at, how much, how good he's done it, like
Speaker 2: stopping violent crime in El Salvador. Trump shat on him.
Speaker 2: Trump accused him of sending all of El Salvador's violent
Speaker 2: criminals and psychopaths to the United States, which I thought
Speaker 2: was interesting.
Speaker 3: Actually, was it El Salvador Venezuela both?
Speaker 2: He brought up both because he also brought up Venezuela
Speaker 2: and accused them of doing that. He said El Salvador,
Speaker 2: but he also brought up Venezuela and said, maybe next
Speaker 2: election will hold the RNC in Venezuela because it's so
Speaker 2: peaceful now because they sent all their rapists here.
Speaker 3: Exactly that. Then he had the late great Hannibal Lecter line.
Speaker 3: And then immediately afterwards he said that he will enact
Speaker 3: the largest deportation program in American history. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 3: just what a very beautiful snapshot of the current American politic.
Speaker 2: And it got a great reaction, and I would say
Speaker 2: that by far the most aggressive, because he really didn't
Speaker 2: play any of it, much of the much of if
Speaker 2: any radical left stuff. He really even didn't other than
Speaker 2: to say that Joe was like a bad president, the
Speaker 2: country was in bad shape. He didn't like yell at
Speaker 2: Democrats much. The hate was mostly reserved for migrants and immigrants.
Speaker 3: Yes. He closed by saying that we're going to be
Speaker 3: building an iron dome in the United States.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, curveball, Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then he pivoted to saying that we will not
Speaker 3: have men playing in women's sports, which is the first
Speaker 3: trans reference in.
Speaker 2: His whole speech, and he just kind of dropped it
Speaker 2: and then changed.
Speaker 3: And then he immediately continued to something else. And the
Speaker 3: crowd did not react to that nearly as much as
Speaker 3: they reacted to any of the other mentions of like
Speaker 3: trans people.
Speaker 2: I think because it just kind of he just kind
Speaker 2: of threw it out there, but then we're right back to.
Speaker 3: It was almost like a perfunctory line, like knew he
Speaker 3: had again and.
Speaker 2: Drop a line about because I think it is perfunctory
Speaker 2: because again, Trump doesn't really care all that much about
Speaker 2: the culture, like the social stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that is that's pretty much what they closed
Speaker 3: the speech on most mostly on this migrant stuff, this
Speaker 3: iron dome thing, and increase increasing the increasing the manufacturing
Speaker 3: jobs in the United States, which is you know a
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of what Trump's messaging was back
Speaker 3: at twenty sixteen as well.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, in a way, it was mostly him
Speaker 2: playing the hits. You know, we had the there was.
Speaker 2: He did bring out Corey Contempori's firefighter's uniform. It was
Speaker 2: on stage behind him the whole time. He kissed it.
Speaker 3: At one point walked up to it and I thought
Speaker 3: he was going for a hug and I was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: that's gonna be weird, and instead he went up behind
Speaker 3: and kissed it, which was also weird.
Speaker 2: It kind of did a Joe Biden to the dead
Speaker 2: Man's firefighter.
Speaker 3: It was a very Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: And he brought up Corey. He brought also up the
Speaker 2: other people who were wounded. He named them all, which
Speaker 2: you know, you I makes sense, you have to do it.
Speaker 2: He didn't really talk much about Corey beyond that, Like
Speaker 2: Corey was there as a prop. He kissed it and
Speaker 2: then he.
Speaker 3: Gave a five second moment of silence, a very brief
Speaker 3: moment of silence.
Speaker 2: And then they moved on. And when his speech ended
Speaker 2: for the night, Garrison and I both saw this was
Speaker 2: beautiful moments to share with you, Garret. You and I
Speaker 2: have shared some moments, but this was. This is right
Speaker 2: up at the top of the list as all of
Speaker 2: the the whole convention, the whole ceiling is balloons, right,
Speaker 2: They've got them up there. They have some sort of
Speaker 2: system by which, like at the end they trigger it
Speaker 2: and they all start falling down and they'll fall for
Speaker 2: ten fifteen minutes. Like there's a lot of balloons and
Speaker 2: it's rigged so that they're and you know, some of
Speaker 2: them are red, white and blue. A lot of them
Speaker 2: are like gold, huge gold balloons. And the last sight
Speaker 2: we get, you know, as as Trump is on stage
Speaker 2: with his family, balloons are showering the crowds everywhere streaming.
Speaker 3: They're they're celebrating what they see as as an inevitable victory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two stage crew guys take Corey's uniform and wheel
Speaker 2: it unceremoniously off stage into darkness. As quietly wheels balloons
Speaker 2: poured down and everyone dances and cheeks.
Speaker 3: No one, no one notices We're done.
Speaker 2: It's like Frank Grime's caskets sinking into the into the dirt,
Speaker 2: and the Simpsons like no one sees, no one sees.
Speaker 3: Very unceremoniously, very quietly, very quickly just wheeled off, and
Speaker 3: what we needed from him, the celebration continues. And also
Speaker 3: they spelled his name wrong on the fire to be
Speaker 3: it was previously spelled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's I think it was an issue of
Speaker 2: when he was a firefighter. They just could only have
Speaker 2: so many letters on the jackets. But you know, there
Speaker 2: was some talk about that. I have seen a lot
Speaker 2: of folks making the comparison to Horst Wessel, who was
Speaker 2: a German member of the Brown Shirts. He was also
Speaker 2: a pimp who gets got murdered by some communists in
Speaker 2: retaliation for acts of violence he had carried out right
Speaker 2: before the Third Reich took power, and they they really
Speaker 2: made a lot out of his death. He got this
Speaker 2: massive state funeral, They had a very popular song about him.
Speaker 2: He was kind of he was kind of the individual
Speaker 2: chosen to embody all of the guys who died in
Speaker 2: the street fights prior to the rights of the party,
Speaker 2: and people have been comparing Cory to Horst. I get why,
Speaker 2: because this is we are watching a fascist party near
Speaker 2: power here, and there's clearly some desire in that for
Speaker 2: Corey to be that. Horst was the focus of almost
Speaker 2: I'm not almost of the cult, and what I saw
Speaker 2: here was a perfunctory Well, we got to mention this guy. Uh,
Speaker 2: we got to, like, you know, make a reference to him.
Speaker 2: But let's let's get in and out of that. We
Speaker 2: got to move on to the meat and potatoes. That's
Speaker 2: not gonna win us. And I think what is like
Speaker 2: the the swing voters and shit, don't care about Corey contemporary, right,
Speaker 2: that's not gonna that's our base is going to expect
Speaker 2: us to say something. It's also just like the thing
Speaker 2: you do. This guy got killed at your rally with
Speaker 2: a bulletmint for you. You got to bring up something,
Speaker 2: But then let's move on. Let's get him out of there,
Speaker 2: Let's shove his fucking uniform into the fucking back closet
Speaker 2: and uh, get back to the party, you know. And
Speaker 2: that is different from how the Nazis handled Horsed. And
Speaker 2: I think that difference, maybe it signals a real difference
Speaker 2: in the structure of American fascism, you know, and how
Speaker 2: it inhabits a party, or maybe it's just a measure
Speaker 2: of we're not all fully bought in on this to
Speaker 2: the extent in the same way that the Nazis were, right, like,
Speaker 2: we really are trying to just get a lot of
Speaker 2: people on board to vote for us, and we don't
Speaker 2: want to get too weird with it. We don't want
Speaker 2: to have a big cult for Corey at the r NC,
Speaker 2: the big religious state that's got to be off putting
Speaker 2: to Americans. So let's we'll kiss the hat people like firefighters,
Speaker 2: shove it back. That's how I took that.
Speaker 3: There's two other things I want to mention. I've had
Speaker 3: jd Vance's Hype song stuck in my head, boy, Yeah,
Speaker 3: because they just kept playing it at that convention, and
Speaker 3: it's an interesting song. It has, it has a good beat.
Speaker 3: It for most of the song it's talking about how,
Speaker 3: you know, we spend all this time trying to like
Speaker 3: liberate other countries, right, and maybe actually we're the ones
Speaker 3: that need to be liberated. Maybe maybe America actually needs
Speaker 3: to be saved. Maybe we aren't as free as what
Speaker 3: we would think and it has a line about like
Speaker 3: getting out of Iraq.
Speaker 2: We got to get out of we got to get
Speaker 2: out of Iraq, take our country back and put America first.
Speaker 3: And I mean that is the point that where they
Speaker 3: lose me. Obviously, it's it's still it's still interesting for
Speaker 3: one of them, like for the Vice President's song at
Speaker 3: the r n C to be anti Iraqs. I'm like, hey,
Speaker 3: there there are people telling you back then not to
Speaker 3: do Iraq and you really wanted to.
Speaker 2: We heard it for the first time on Monday when
Speaker 2: Vance got officially announced as the nominee, and I kind
Speaker 2: of wondered then if like is this a fuck up?
Speaker 2: Was like somebody they were like, oh, there's a Merle
Speaker 2: Haggard song about America first, let's throw that in there,
Speaker 2: And then realized, oh, no, there's we We can't have that.
Speaker 2: We're the party who did the Iraq stuff. But it
Speaker 2: kept coming up, kept being played. So it's very intentional, clearly.
Speaker 3: And we were talking last night about this and like
Speaker 3: how how this is how these tip sort of nationalist
Speaker 3: projects always work. And we've seen more America first like
Speaker 3: that that exact phrase used at this convention way more
Speaker 3: than any any previous one. Trump said it a few times.
Speaker 3: A lot of speakers have been saying it just like
Speaker 3: we need to put up America first, and yeah, no
Speaker 3: specifically in this song, you know, it has it has
Speaker 3: this kind of populist bent that then is very hard nationalist, yeah,
Speaker 3: which I'm sure we're all familiar with as a political tendency.
Speaker 3: But I've just thought I found that to be the
Speaker 3: most interesting part is because for like the majority of
Speaker 3: that song, I'm like, yes, absolutely, I agree. And then
Speaker 3: and and then they say the America first line, and
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, that is not that is not what
Speaker 3: we're talking about. It's yeah, And I just know it's
Speaker 3: It's was something I've been thinking about, and I'm sure
Speaker 3: we'll want I'm sure we'll do some more deep dives
Speaker 3: on Vance in the coming weeks, since he's a little bit,
Speaker 3: you know, less well known to many of you, I assume.
Speaker 3: And the last thing I kind of want to mention
Speaker 3: is that yesterday, right before Trump's speech, I was getting
Speaker 3: some work done and I happened to be sitting about
Speaker 3: ten feet away from Ted Cruz, who was who was
Speaker 3: talking on air about his thoughts on like both this
Speaker 3: this convention and this election in general. And he said
Speaker 3: a few interesting things that I half heard that I
Speaker 3: that I quickly just scribbled down on a notebook. He
Speaker 3: said that, you know, this convention already feels like a celebration, right,
Speaker 3: this already feels like like we've kind of won. But
Speaker 3: he warned Republicans to be scared of over confidence. He
Speaker 3: said that we're kind of acting like how the Democrats
Speaker 3: were acting in twenty sixteen. I have been saying that
Speaker 3: all week. Yeah, and that's that's what Ted Cruz was saying. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he thinks that that that Biden is not going to
Speaker 3: be the candidate. That someone else is going to come
Speaker 3: into place.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: He believes that that's gonna be Michelle Obama, which unhinged.
Speaker 2: Opinion, unbelievable because like, do I think Michelle Obama would
Speaker 2: have a decent shot at winning the presidency in this election? Sure?
Speaker 2: Do I think Michelle Obama wants to go anywhere near
Speaker 2: the White House again in her life?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: It's like a nightmare. She's making movies, they're produced, they're
Speaker 2: in Hollywood. You're doing the thing people when.
Speaker 3: They're doing what Ted Cruz wants to do.
Speaker 2: When people are allowed to make big Hollywood movies. They
Speaker 2: don't want to get into politics for a long time.
Speaker 2: That's how we avoided having fascist and power in this
Speaker 2: country and like like direct power, like like Trump type
Speaker 2: kind of fascists.
Speaker 3: We're very lucky that Clint Eastwood just makes movies and
Speaker 3: doesn't do pology.
Speaker 2: Are the people who would be the best we have?
Speaker 2: You know, you have fascists like stuck inside of the bureaucracy,
Speaker 2: But the people who could really have the potential charisma
Speaker 2: to be populist leaders wind up becoming movie stars. Tom
Speaker 2: Cruise could have been a president. Oh he's he's got
Speaker 2: what it takes. But he decided to devote all of
Speaker 2: that manic kind of charisma energy into climbing the bersh Khalifa.
Speaker 2: And that's part of the genius of the American system.
Speaker 3: And I mean, guess lastly, Milwaukee was lovely. All the
Speaker 3: food service workers Milwaukee's great. Even the poor people who
Speaker 3: were forced to work at the convention center consistently nice,
Speaker 3: did a great job. And there's there's one one anecdote
Speaker 3: that Robert should mention a.
Speaker 2: Just regardless of a favorite part of the convintion, some
Speaker 2: of the very fine people here in Milwaukee and shouted
Speaker 2: my occasional enemy, well, always enemy, but occasionally I remember
Speaker 2: that he exists. Andy know made a series of posts
Speaker 2: about how there was a dangerous Antifa terrorist at the
Speaker 2: convention and like clipped a couple of posts of mine
Speaker 2: out of context like he always does, and was like,
Speaker 2: you know, people in his mentions were tagging the Secret
Speaker 2: Service in the FBI, it serves Laura Lumer. I continued
Speaker 2: to repeatedly enter the RNC I went through. God, I
Speaker 2: lost count of how many times I went through Secret
Speaker 2: Service checkpoints. We snuck into the Heritage Foundation party. None
Speaker 2: of it mattered. The only people at the show who
Speaker 2: recognized me were like technical folks for the different radio.
Speaker 2: I had a couple of different people who were carrying
Speaker 2: booms carrying cameras who like referenced, like recognized me and
Speaker 2: shouted me out, which I felt good about. What I
Speaker 2: felt best about is as you and I were walking
Speaker 2: to the stadium to see the speech, we see a
Speaker 2: forklift driving down the street.
Speaker 3: In the middle of the security one of the crowded streets,
Speaker 3: which is kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: It's weird. I've never actually seen a construction vehicle driving
Speaker 2: around inside the during like the convention hours. So that
Speaker 2: was weird. And as we're like watching this thing, like
Speaker 2: I honestly wondered, like should I like get a footage
Speaker 2: of this that's kind of wild looking as we as
Speaker 2: we see it like kind of coming up next to us,
Speaker 2: the driver leans out of the side of the vehicle
Speaker 2: and he is a beautiful man covered in tattoos, huge
Speaker 2: nos ring and he's like, hey.
Speaker 3: Roberts, we we have the forklift demographic.
Speaker 2: Nothing has ever made me so certain that we're doing
Speaker 2: the right thing with our lives. We're reaching the people
Speaker 2: we need to be reaching.
Speaker 3: You know, we forklift certified soldiers out there.
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