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Speaker 1: Also media welcome back to it could Happen here, a

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Speaker 1: podcast that basically all of last week is about the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Republican National Convention, a four day period

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Speaker 1: of time that I'm not sure ever ended or ever

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Speaker 1: really had a beginning.

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Speaker 2: As of right now, we are stuck in the hotel

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Speaker 2: because what we initially thought was a hack and may

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Speaker 2: just have been a fuck up pushing an update by

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Speaker 2: cloud strike, but by any measure of the word, is

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Speaker 2: like the greatest computer disaster of modern times has stranded

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Speaker 2: every Republican in the country in the city of Milwaukee.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we are trapped with every single Republican in Milwaukee,

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Speaker 3: Wisconsin as we wait for airports like a Stephen King bacne.

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Speaker 3: It's feeling quite dystopian. We've already been dealing with a

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Speaker 3: great deal of like dilation. Just this past week. This

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Speaker 3: week has felt it first just felt like a month.

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Speaker 3: Then it just felt like an eternity. Yeah, like we

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Speaker 3: were just always reporting on the RNC. This is all

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Speaker 3: we've ever done.

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Speaker 2: Every single day of this was longer than my childhood.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I feel like all I've ever done is

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Speaker 3: a person is be someone who reports on the RNC.

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Speaker 3: This is just the entirety of my existence and life purpose.

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Speaker 2: It's like that Star Trek episode where they have like

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Speaker 2: the fake casino because they found these aliens found a

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Speaker 2: recreated a dime store novel, and all of these fake

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Speaker 2: people have only ever lived in the casino, experiencing the

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Speaker 2: same day forever. That's us. That's us at the RNC.

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Speaker 3: So was only created to report on the RNC.

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Speaker 2: Did I have a before? Did I have an after?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Yeah. Anyway, so we're doing well, is the

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Speaker 2: short of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're mentally healthy and well and well suited to

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Speaker 3: handle this political task.

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Speaker 2: I guess the big story, the one that's really worth

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Speaker 2: us talking about right now, is that last night you

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Speaker 2: and I went to see the Trump speech spectacular. Now,

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Speaker 2: every day of the convention, during the early part of

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Speaker 2: the day, you'll have some speeches, and you'll have even

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Speaker 2: some outside of the event. Different groups and organizations will

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Speaker 2: so to speak, you have different dignitaries politicians, you know,

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Speaker 2: Ted Kruz will come by and I'll sit down to

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Speaker 2: be interviewed by a podcaster, a radio host. Rudy Giuliani's

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Speaker 2: doing the same thing. You've got all these people who

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Speaker 2: like that, you start having speeches and part of what

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Speaker 2: a way to hype up the base. This is the base.

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Speaker 2: And one of the things I try to get across

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Speaker 2: to people. I posted on day one while there were

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Speaker 2: some very dystopian shit coming out Marjorie Taylor Green's speech

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Speaker 2: because this is an invite on the event that you

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Speaker 2: But they're also not representative of like a massive chunk

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Speaker 2: These are the high freaks of Republican Party politics. These

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Speaker 2: And so you shouldn't over extend the craziness to think that, like, well,

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Speaker 2: this kind of person. Now some of you do have

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Speaker 3: So, and Trump's speech was certainly much more well attended

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Speaker 2: Yes, and it was. It was also a very different

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Speaker 2: right now. You know, we can't get like, so we'll

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Speaker 2: give you a speech at the RNC. You can lead,

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Speaker 2: and you can get on right before Tucker, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's one way to dole out favors, right, because it's

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Speaker 2: good for people's you know, if you if you're head

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Speaker 2: any rate. It makes you look more connected at something

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Speaker 3: And that's certainly the case for someone like the VEC right,

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Speaker 3: someone who doesn't hold like that office, never has, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but he's trying to position himself as being, you know,

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Speaker 2: Franklin Graham, Billy Graham's killer n gave a speech. That's

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Speaker 2: not a guy who's you know, an elected leader, but

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Speaker 2: he's a guy you want on your side. You let's

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Speaker 2: give let's give him a nice position. We'll put him

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Speaker 2: right after whole Cogan.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Which I.

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Speaker 2: Guess is you know that that kind of gets it

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Speaker 2: why Thursday was so different from the other nights because

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Speaker 2: while the other nights felt like a political convention, because

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Speaker 2: the dims do the same thing, right like that their

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Speaker 2: speeches occupy roughly the same role in their party. Last

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Speaker 2: night felt like a concert. Last night was the vibes

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Speaker 2: of like a show. You are going to get hyped

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Speaker 2: up and see a show. People were static. There was

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Speaker 2: actually music acts, like not just the band that plays

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Speaker 3: It was all a big put on performance. Yes it was.

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Speaker 3: It was in many cases well put on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was very competently stage managed. There's no

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Speaker 2: no denying that. We can talk about the content of

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Speaker 2: the speech, and I've seen a lot of it, you know,

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Speaker 2: same seater who you know. I like, I'm not trying

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Speaker 2: But I saw his take being like I felt like

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Speaker 2: It's not very coherent. You know, people in the audience

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Speaker 3: I see where he's coming from, because this was one

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Speaker 3: I think this would be this This This was an

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Speaker 3: this like broader political figure that that people should unite behind,

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Speaker 3: because this incident really shows how divided we are, and

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Speaker 3: what we really need to do to unite the country

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Speaker 3: and kind of using that more sympathetic unity messaging to

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Speaker 2: And also the fucking the boys are playing in women's

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Speaker 2: He had a Hannibal But we should We're getting ahead

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Speaker 2: The audience loved it. Yeah, like they loved it, and

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Speaker 2: even this is different because I've been to you know,

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Speaker 2: It's very much a religious experience for these people.

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Speaker 3: No, it definitely had that spiritual vibe. So the first

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Speaker 2: He gave an ridit and smooth summary of fascist ideology

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Speaker 2: not in a sense that we would consider like checks

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Speaker 2: And Tucker very directly like like hearkened to that. He

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Speaker 2: I expected to see the crowd running, screaming, stampeding, panicking,

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Speaker 2: It's the most direct old style. This is nineteen twenties

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Speaker 2: It wasn't the thing he ended on, and it was

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Speaker 2: was getting people on board the concept that they are

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Speaker 3: Tucker was also the first guy I heard of the

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Speaker 3: And right before Tucker's speech, I actually was talking with

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Speaker 2: even a bit of a different tact with that. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I found that interesting. But I did not find his

439
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Speaker 2: speech interesting because he is a bad speaker.

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Speaker 3: Now. The only line I found interesting is when he

441
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Speaker 3: was talking about how all of Donald Trump's political enemies

442
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Speaker 3: aren't just happy going after him, but also going to

443
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Speaker 3: be going after every Republican. And he said the greatest

444
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Speaker 3: retribution will be our success. Yeah, and they've been using

445
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Speaker 3: netword a lot this year, retribution, retribution.

446
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Speaker 2: And you know, he did kind of in the end,

447
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Speaker 2: getted a little bit of applause. That'say. It was like

448
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Speaker 2: the fifth or sixth best standing ovation of the night.

449
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Speaker 2: So again, he at his best, was never able to

450
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Speaker 2: really rile.

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Speaker 3: Them up, especially when's talking about the assassination attempt to mean, Yeah,

452
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Speaker 3: the crowd chounting fight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what got them back on board. And interesting

454
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Speaker 2: they loved talk about that, I think in part because

455
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Speaker 2: it had been so absent earlier.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was talking about way more today than well,

457
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Speaker 3: basically all the other days of the week combined.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that makes sense. I mean, it was

459
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Speaker 2: the day that Trump came out to speak, you know, and.

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Speaker 3: You know what we're going to talk about now or

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Speaker 3: not talk.

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Speaker 2: About assassinating your thirst with hopefully a soda company advertising

463
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Speaker 2: on the podcast. Otherwise, this ad segue is not going

464
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Speaker 2: to make much sense.

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Speaker 3: All right time for Donald Trump himself, He's coming out

466
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Speaker 3: they set this stage, they got.

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Speaker 2: Everything ready d to be an American.

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Speaker 3: And then they announced kid Rock.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, and he comes out and the whole

470
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Speaker 2: stage is wreathed in massive screens, like dozens of feet tall,

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Speaker 2: and they all are portraying fire and American.

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Speaker 3: Flag, American flags that look kind of like they're on

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Speaker 3: fire burning.

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Speaker 2: Kid Rock comes out and does a rap set to

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Speaker 2: burning American flag surrounding him.

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Speaker 3: It was kind of just a fascinating image for the RNC.

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Speaker 2: The refrain is they call me Cowboy. He said that

478
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Speaker 2: like forty times, and he just kept going Trump, Trump, Trump, Fight, Fight,

479
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Speaker 2: Fight in.

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Speaker 3: They loved it. They loved it was It was very

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Speaker 3: high energy. It was it was a concert. Everyone everyone

482
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Speaker 3: ever had a great time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it got a good reaction. People were hyped up.

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Speaker 2: It is the loudest, stupidest thing I have ever seen

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Speaker 2: in my life, but it got a really good reaction.

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Speaker 2: People loved Kid Rock coming out. It's interesting to me

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Speaker 2: that they chose to have Kid Rock basically lead directly

488
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Speaker 2: to the president rather than than the Hulkster. But I

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Speaker 2: don't know. If I were if I had been setting

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Speaker 2: this up, I would have done Franklin Graham school Lady

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Speaker 2: Eric Trump, all the weak ones up first, and then

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Speaker 2: probably Tucker the Hulkster kid rock you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the NS should really hire you to man their schedule.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm available, guys.

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Speaker 3: So after we all kid rocked out, technically, Dana White

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Speaker 3: gave the introduction.

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Speaker 2: Or Dana White. Yeah, they bring in Dana White, who

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Speaker 2: has who is the UFC CEO. Yeah, who is also

499
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Speaker 2: on video hitting his wife in the face. This is

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Speaker 2: not a debatable, he said. She said he is on video.

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Speaker 2: You can watch it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And he gave a very very typical strength and

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Speaker 3: security speech to introduced Trump, who emerged from behind one

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Speaker 3: of the big the big screens.

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Speaker 2: Well, Proud to be an American plays and like the

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Speaker 2: entire crowd stands up and they're all singing along to

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Speaker 2: Proud to be an American. They love that song.

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Speaker 3: He'd started his speech, and one of the interesting things

509
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Speaker 3: is that he said that he's going to tell the

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Speaker 3: story of what happened at the assassination attempt here right now,

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Speaker 3: but won't tell it ever again because it's too painful

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Speaker 3: to tell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I'll be interested to see how often he does,

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Speaker 2: because it is like just based on his body language,

515
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Speaker 2: because he's been out every night but not saying anything,

516
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Speaker 2: and he does has looked a bit different, and I'm

517
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Speaker 2: not going to do the whole thing. Some of the

518
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Speaker 2: fucking you had some like Politico being like, it's a

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Speaker 2: new Trump, He's become a statesman. They definitely that's what

520
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Speaker 2: the RNC is trying to sell you on. That's nonsense.

521
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Speaker 2: But he has changed in the way that like you

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Speaker 2: would be if you were shot in the head and survived,

523
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Speaker 2: you know, like anyone is go like, he's not a robot, right,

524
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Speaker 2: Like anyone is going to be affected by that. And

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Speaker 2: he might not have been lying. He might just have

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Speaker 2: been like, look, I have to talk about this once.

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Speaker 2: I really don't want to keep talking about this because

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Speaker 2: it's fucked up.

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Speaker 3: I mean, one of the parts actually felt genuine, or

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Speaker 3: we're certain sections this where he was like saying like

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm I was not supposed to be here tonight,

532
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Speaker 3: and the crowd was like.

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Speaker 1: Yes you are.

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Speaker 2: He was like no, no, no, really close.

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Speaker 3: You know, he was thanking God. I don't know how

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Speaker 3: genuine that is for him, and how much of that's

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Speaker 3: political posture.

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Speaker 2: Yea that I don't necessarily believe.

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Speaker 3: That that's just kind of what you have to do.

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Speaker 2: He certainly knows that he barely made it out of

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Speaker 2: that fucking speech.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he pointed to thessassination attempt as a sign

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Speaker 3: of how divided this country has been. A very world

544
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Speaker 3: trying to find the guy who did this moment. And

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Speaker 3: he called the Democrats to stop the witch hunts if

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Speaker 3: they want to unify the country, saying, quote, we must

547
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Speaker 3: not demonize political disagreement, and the Democrats should quote stop

548
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Speaker 3: weaponizing the Justice Department against Trump and labeling him an

549
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Speaker 3: enemy of democracy. So he's saying the way to actually

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Speaker 3: unify this country is just to stop stop bad. Yeah,

551
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Speaker 3: stop saying orange man bad. That's really what he was.

552
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Speaker 3: That's what he was getting at.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I you know, you get if you want

554
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Speaker 2: to see the things that you can gain from this

555
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: that are useful in how to fight these people. They

556
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: are scared of the attacks that portray Trump as an

557
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Speaker 2: enemy of democracy. The Project twenty twenty five focus was

558
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Speaker 2: hurting Republicans and polling and the fact that the DIMS

559
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Speaker 2: have pulled back maybe.

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Speaker 3: Not mentioned in a single speech this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody talked up twenty twenty five. You know, even

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Speaker 2: the Heritage Foundation. People were notably cagier about it than

563
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Speaker 2: you might expect in their interviews with the press. Ye,

564
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Speaker 2: because they do know that it's not a good it's

565
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Speaker 2: not great for them to bring up now, it's not popular.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, slowly, Trump's speech got more and

567
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Speaker 3: more Trumpian rights, saying that Democrats are destroying our country,

568
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Speaker 3: talking about, you know, immigrants invading our country, as he said,

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Speaker 3: he said the word invasion many, many times, Yeah, saying

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Speaker 3: that they're that, saying that legal immigrants are killing hundreds

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Speaker 3: of thousands of people a year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the fentanyl thing. It's even though ninety fentyl

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Speaker 2: is brought into US sports of entry by US citizens. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that line actually was one of the through lines that

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Speaker 2: was almost every day of this. I heard someone mention

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Speaker 2: that we've lost as many or more Americans to fentanyl

577
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Speaker 2: as we did in World War Two. At one point,

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Speaker 2: it might have been in Trump's speech. It was even

579
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Speaker 2: framed as like more people have died from fentanyl than

580
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Speaker 2: died in World War Two, and like, well, no, no, no,

581
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Speaker 2: a lot of people died in World War two, just

582
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Speaker 2: not that many Americans really.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of World War two era Germany in.

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Speaker 2: Trump's little section, we sure did get a mention there.

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Speaker 3: In Trump's little section about inflation, he gave a fascinating comment, yeah, saying, quote,

586
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Speaker 3: you can go back to Germany one hundred years ago

587
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Speaker 3: unquote to see the negative effects of inflation. Yeah, waiting

588
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Speaker 3: to like find Maar era Germany.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're talking about VYMR. He's talking about like

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Speaker 2: what immediately preceded the Nazis coming to power.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and but like also framing it as like I'll

592
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Speaker 3: be the one to get us out of inflation, which

593
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Speaker 3: is very similar messaging as the fascist movements did, saying

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Speaker 3: to Germany that was in you know, in a real

595
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Speaker 3: economic issue, we will be the ones to fix this

596
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Speaker 3: through through nationalism, closing our borders, through putting Germany first,

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Speaker 3: Like that is it's it was. It was a very

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Speaker 3: very odd comparison for Trump to make. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how well he thought through that. I don't believe that

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Speaker 3: was this was like an intentional coded.

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Speaker 2: Messa didn't It didn't seem like.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Trump works that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely does have teleprompters sometimes, but he also

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Speaker 2: he is like a good public speaker. He doesn't just

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Speaker 2: stick religiously to it, you know, And that did strike

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Speaker 2: me as a line that may have just come right

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Speaker 2: out of the heart.

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Speaker 3: Now, he had a few other interesting things in the economy.

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Speaker 3: He was talking a lot about increasing car manufacturing jobs,

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Speaker 3: including saying the leader of the United Auto Workers should

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Speaker 3: be fired and promising to put tariffs of one hundred

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Speaker 3: to two hundred percent on all foreign made cars, which

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Speaker 3: would I'm sure do some real.

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Speaker 2: Stuck up on your toyotas now, folks, well they make

615
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Speaker 2: a lot of them in the US.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure that would really help the economy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which is like I mean, part of the

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Speaker 2: there's a lot to say about that. One thing that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Someone had told you, because you were the first person

620
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Speaker 2: to bring this up to me. There were strong rumors

621
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Speaker 2: that really a midday before the speech started percolating that

622
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Speaker 2: Elon Musk was going to show up and introduce or people.

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Speaker 3: I heard this from like Thursday morning.

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Speaker 2: Which may mean that they were just getting some bullshit.

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Speaker 2: It may mean that there were actually talks, right, I'm

626
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Speaker 2: sure because Musk has been real like Musk has been

627
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Speaker 2: trying to get Trump's attention. Yeah, that's beyond debate. He

628
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Speaker 2: wants Trump on Twitter and he wants Trump. You know,

629
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Speaker 2: he's he's been making all these statements about how much

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Speaker 2: money he's going to donate to Trump and now he's

631
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Speaker 2: endorsing him. Now, do I actually think he's gonna give

632
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Speaker 2: the RNC forty five million dollars a month? No, he's

633
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Speaker 2: going to find some bullshit way he's going to give

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Speaker 2: him something. But he's gonna fight. He's he's never spends

635
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Speaker 2: gives Like that's too much money for him to want

636
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Speaker 2: to spend on them, right, Like, I think he's going

637
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: to fuck them the way he fucks everybody over. But

638
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Speaker 2: it was interesting to me how much talk there was

639
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Speaker 2: of him showing up and absolutely no eelon. And in fact,

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Speaker 2: there was a moment where Trump was like, hey, electric

641
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Speaker 2: cars are fine for some things, but like we got

642
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Speaker 2: to subsidize gas cars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. He talked about, you know, increasing drilling in the

644
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Speaker 3: United States and kind of the last big topic that

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Speaker 3: he went to was the border. He pointed to the

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Speaker 3: to the little border patrol chart that he looked at

647
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Speaker 3: the split second before those shots fired, which saved his life.

648
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Speaker 3: So you can thank the border patrol chart for that.

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Speaker 3: He said that Mexico and South American countries are sending

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Speaker 3: murderers and people from a sane asylums into the United States.

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Speaker 2: It was interesting because Naibukell of El Salvador, it keeps

652
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Speaker 2: getting brought up as like a Trumpian figure, is like,

653
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Speaker 2: this is the kind of leader Trump wants to be.

654
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Speaker 2: Look at, how much, how good he's done it, like

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Speaker 2: stopping violent crime in El Salvador. Trump shat on him.

656
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: Trump accused him of sending all of El Salvador's violent

657
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: criminals and psychopaths to the United States, which I thought

658
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: was interesting.

659
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 3: Actually, was it El Salvador Venezuela both?

660
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: He brought up both because he also brought up Venezuela

661
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: and accused them of doing that. He said El Salvador,

662
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: but he also brought up Venezuela and said, maybe next

663
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: election will hold the RNC in Venezuela because it's so

664
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: peaceful now because they sent all their rapists here.

665
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: Exactly that. Then he had the late great Hannibal Lecter line.

666
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: And then immediately afterwards he said that he will enact

667
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: the largest deportation program in American history. Yeah, and that's

668
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: just what a very beautiful snapshot of the current American politic.

669
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: And it got a great reaction, and I would say

670
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: that by far the most aggressive, because he really didn't

671
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: play any of it, much of the much of if

672
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: any radical left stuff. He really even didn't other than

673
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: to say that Joe was like a bad president, the

674
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: country was in bad shape. He didn't like yell at

675
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: Democrats much. The hate was mostly reserved for migrants and immigrants.

676
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: Yes. He closed by saying that we're going to be

677
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: building an iron dome in the United States.

678
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, curveball, Yeah.

679
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: And then he pivoted to saying that we will not

680
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: have men playing in women's sports, which is the first

681
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: trans reference in.

682
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: His whole speech, and he just kind of dropped it

683
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: and then changed.

684
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: And then he immediately continued to something else. And the

685
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: crowd did not react to that nearly as much as

686
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: they reacted to any of the other mentions of like

687
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: trans people.

688
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: I think because it just kind of he just kind

689
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: of threw it out there, but then we're right back to.

690
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: It was almost like a perfunctory line, like knew he

691
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: had again and.

692
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: Drop a line about because I think it is perfunctory

693
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: because again, Trump doesn't really care all that much about

694
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: the culture, like the social stuff.

695
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that is that's pretty much what they closed

696
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: the speech on most mostly on this migrant stuff, this

697
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: iron dome thing, and increase increasing the increasing the manufacturing

698
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: jobs in the United States, which is you know a

699
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of what Trump's messaging was back

700
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: at twenty sixteen as well.

701
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: So, I mean, in a way, it was mostly him

702
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: playing the hits. You know, we had the there was.

703
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: He did bring out Corey Contempori's firefighter's uniform. It was

704
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: on stage behind him the whole time. He kissed it.

705
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: At one point walked up to it and I thought

706
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 3: he was going for a hug and I was like, Oh,

707
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: that's gonna be weird, and instead he went up behind

708
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: and kissed it, which was also weird.

709
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,959
Speaker 2: It kind of did a Joe Biden to the dead

710
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: Man's firefighter.

711
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: It was a very Joe Biden.

712
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: And he brought up Corey. He brought also up the

713
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 2: other people who were wounded. He named them all, which

714
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: you know, you I makes sense, you have to do it.

715
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: He didn't really talk much about Corey beyond that, Like

716
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 2: Corey was there as a prop. He kissed it and

717
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 2: then he.

718
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: Gave a five second moment of silence, a very brief

719
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 3: moment of silence.

720
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: And then they moved on. And when his speech ended

721
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: for the night, Garrison and I both saw this was

722
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: beautiful moments to share with you, Garret. You and I

723
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: have shared some moments, but this was. This is right

724
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: up at the top of the list as all of

725
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: the the whole convention, the whole ceiling is balloons, right,

726
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: They've got them up there. They have some sort of

727
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: system by which, like at the end they trigger it

728
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: and they all start falling down and they'll fall for

729
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: ten fifteen minutes. Like there's a lot of balloons and

730
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: it's rigged so that they're and you know, some of

731
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: them are red, white and blue. A lot of them

732
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: are like gold, huge gold balloons. And the last sight

733
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: we get, you know, as as Trump is on stage

734
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 2: with his family, balloons are showering the crowds everywhere streaming.

735
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: They're they're celebrating what they see as as an inevitable victory.

736
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, two stage crew guys take Corey's uniform and wheel

737
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: it unceremoniously off stage into darkness. As quietly wheels balloons

738
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 2: poured down and everyone dances and cheeks.

739
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 3: No one, no one notices We're done.

740
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: It's like Frank Grime's caskets sinking into the into the dirt,

741
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: and the Simpsons like no one sees, no one sees.

742
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 3: Very unceremoniously, very quietly, very quickly just wheeled off, and

743
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: what we needed from him, the celebration continues. And also

744
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 3: they spelled his name wrong on the fire to be

745
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: it was previously spelled.

746
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's I think it was an issue of

747
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: when he was a firefighter. They just could only have

748
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: so many letters on the jackets. But you know, there

749
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: was some talk about that. I have seen a lot

750
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: of folks making the comparison to Horst Wessel, who was

751
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: a German member of the Brown Shirts. He was also

752
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: a pimp who gets got murdered by some communists in

753
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: retaliation for acts of violence he had carried out right

754
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: before the Third Reich took power, and they they really

755
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: made a lot out of his death. He got this

756
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: massive state funeral, They had a very popular song about him.

757
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: He was kind of he was kind of the individual

758
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: chosen to embody all of the guys who died in

759
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: the street fights prior to the rights of the party,

760
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 2: and people have been comparing Cory to Horst. I get why,

761
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: because this is we are watching a fascist party near

762
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: power here, and there's clearly some desire in that for

763
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 2: Corey to be that. Horst was the focus of almost

764
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: I'm not almost of the cult, and what I saw

765
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: here was a perfunctory Well, we got to mention this guy. Uh,

766
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: we got to, like, you know, make a reference to him.

767
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: But let's let's get in and out of that. We

768
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: got to move on to the meat and potatoes. That's

769
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: not gonna win us. And I think what is like

770
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: the the swing voters and shit, don't care about Corey contemporary, right,

771
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: that's not gonna that's our base is going to expect

772
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: us to say something. It's also just like the thing

773
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: you do. This guy got killed at your rally with

774
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 2: a bulletmint for you. You got to bring up something,

775
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: But then let's move on. Let's get him out of there,

776
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: Let's shove his fucking uniform into the fucking back closet

777
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: and uh, get back to the party, you know. And

778
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: that is different from how the Nazis handled Horsed. And

779
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: I think that difference, maybe it signals a real difference

780
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: in the structure of American fascism, you know, and how

781
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: it inhabits a party, or maybe it's just a measure

782
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: of we're not all fully bought in on this to

783
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: the extent in the same way that the Nazis were, right, like,

784
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: we really are trying to just get a lot of

785
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 2: people on board to vote for us, and we don't

786
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: want to get too weird with it. We don't want

787
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: to have a big cult for Corey at the r NC,

788
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 2: the big religious state that's got to be off putting

789
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 2: to Americans. So let's we'll kiss the hat people like firefighters,

790
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: shove it back. That's how I took that.

791
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,959
Speaker 3: There's two other things I want to mention. I've had

792
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 3: jd Vance's Hype song stuck in my head, boy, Yeah,

793
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: because they just kept playing it at that convention, and

794
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: it's an interesting song. It has, it has a good beat.

795
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 3: It for most of the song it's talking about how,

796
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: you know, we spend all this time trying to like

797
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: liberate other countries, right, and maybe actually we're the ones

798
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 3: that need to be liberated. Maybe maybe America actually needs

799
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: to be saved. Maybe we aren't as free as what

800
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 3: we would think and it has a line about like

801
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 3: getting out of Iraq.

802
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: We got to get out of we got to get

803
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: out of Iraq, take our country back and put America first.

804
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: And I mean that is the point that where they

805
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: lose me. Obviously, it's it's still it's still interesting for

806
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: one of them, like for the Vice President's song at

807
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 3: the r n C to be anti Iraqs. I'm like, hey,

808
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: there there are people telling you back then not to

809
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: do Iraq and you really wanted to.

810
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: We heard it for the first time on Monday when

811
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: Vance got officially announced as the nominee, and I kind

812
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 2: of wondered then if like is this a fuck up?

813
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: Was like somebody they were like, oh, there's a Merle

814
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: Haggard song about America first, let's throw that in there,

815
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: And then realized, oh, no, there's we We can't have that.

816
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: We're the party who did the Iraq stuff. But it

817
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: kept coming up, kept being played. So it's very intentional, clearly.

818
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: And we were talking last night about this and like

819
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: how how this is how these tip sort of nationalist

820
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: projects always work. And we've seen more America first like

821
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: that that exact phrase used at this convention way more

822
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: than any any previous one. Trump said it a few times.

823
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: A lot of speakers have been saying it just like

824
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 3: we need to put up America first, and yeah, no

825
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: specifically in this song, you know, it has it has

826
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: this kind of populist bent that then is very hard nationalist, yeah,

827
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 3: which I'm sure we're all familiar with as a political tendency.

828
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: But I've just thought I found that to be the

829
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: most interesting part is because for like the majority of

830
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: that song, I'm like, yes, absolutely, I agree. And then

831
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: and and then they say the America first line, and

832
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, that is not that is not what

833
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: we're talking about. It's yeah, And I just know it's

834
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: It's was something I've been thinking about, and I'm sure

835
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 3: we'll want I'm sure we'll do some more deep dives

836
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 3: on Vance in the coming weeks, since he's a little bit,

837
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 3: you know, less well known to many of you, I assume.

838
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: And the last thing I kind of want to mention

839
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: is that yesterday, right before Trump's speech, I was getting

840
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: some work done and I happened to be sitting about

841
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 3: ten feet away from Ted Cruz, who was who was

842
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: talking on air about his thoughts on like both this

843
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: this convention and this election in general. And he said

844
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: a few interesting things that I half heard that I

845
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 3: that I quickly just scribbled down on a notebook. He

846
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 3: said that, you know, this convention already feels like a celebration, right,

847
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: this already feels like like we've kind of won. But

848
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: he warned Republicans to be scared of over confidence. He

849
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: said that we're kind of acting like how the Democrats

850
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: were acting in twenty sixteen. I have been saying that

851
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: all week. Yeah, and that's that's what Ted Cruz was saying. Yeah,

852
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 3: he thinks that that that Biden is not going to

853
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: be the candidate. That someone else is going to come

854
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 3: into place.

855
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 4: Now.

856
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 3: He believes that that's gonna be Michelle Obama, which unhinged.

857
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: Opinion, unbelievable because like, do I think Michelle Obama would

858
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: have a decent shot at winning the presidency in this election? Sure?

859
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: Do I think Michelle Obama wants to go anywhere near

860
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 2: the White House again in her life?

861
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: Now?

862
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: It's like a nightmare. She's making movies, they're produced, they're

863
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 2: in Hollywood. You're doing the thing people when.

864
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: They're doing what Ted Cruz wants to do.

865
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: When people are allowed to make big Hollywood movies. They

866
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: don't want to get into politics for a long time.

867
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: That's how we avoided having fascist and power in this

868
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 2: country and like like direct power, like like Trump type

869
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: kind of fascists.

870
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: We're very lucky that Clint Eastwood just makes movies and

871
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Speaker 3: doesn't do pology.

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00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: Are the people who would be the best we have?

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Speaker 2: You know, you have fascists like stuck inside of the bureaucracy,

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Speaker 2: But the people who could really have the potential charisma

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00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: to be populist leaders wind up becoming movie stars. Tom

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00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: Cruise could have been a president. Oh he's he's got

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00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: what it takes. But he decided to devote all of

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00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: that manic kind of charisma energy into climbing the bersh Khalifa.

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00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: And that's part of the genius of the American system.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, guess lastly, Milwaukee was lovely. All the

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00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 3: food service workers Milwaukee's great. Even the poor people who

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00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 3: were forced to work at the convention center consistently nice,

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00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 3: did a great job. And there's there's one one anecdote

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Speaker 3: that Robert should mention a.

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Speaker 2: Just regardless of a favorite part of the convintion, some

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Speaker 2: of the very fine people here in Milwaukee and shouted

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00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: my occasional enemy, well, always enemy, but occasionally I remember

888
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 2: that he exists. Andy know made a series of posts

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00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: about how there was a dangerous Antifa terrorist at the

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00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: convention and like clipped a couple of posts of mine

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00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: out of context like he always does, and was like,

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00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: you know, people in his mentions were tagging the Secret

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Speaker 2: Service in the FBI, it serves Laura Lumer. I continued

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00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: to repeatedly enter the RNC I went through. God, I

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00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: lost count of how many times I went through Secret

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Speaker 2: Service checkpoints. We snuck into the Heritage Foundation party. None

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00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 2: of it mattered. The only people at the show who

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00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: recognized me were like technical folks for the different radio.

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Speaker 2: I had a couple of different people who were carrying

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00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: booms carrying cameras who like referenced, like recognized me and

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00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: shouted me out, which I felt good about. What I

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00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: felt best about is as you and I were walking

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00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: to the stadium to see the speech, we see a

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Speaker 2: forklift driving down the street.

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Speaker 3: In the middle of the security one of the crowded streets,

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Speaker 3: which is kind of crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's weird. I've never actually seen a construction vehicle driving

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Speaker 2: around inside the during like the convention hours. So that

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00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: was weird. And as we're like watching this thing, like

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Speaker 2: I honestly wondered, like should I like get a footage

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Speaker 2: of this that's kind of wild looking as we as

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00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: we see it like kind of coming up next to us,

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Speaker 2: the driver leans out of the side of the vehicle

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Speaker 2: and he is a beautiful man covered in tattoos, huge

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00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: nos ring and he's like, hey.

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Speaker 3: Roberts, we we have the forklift demographic.

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Speaker 2: Nothing has ever made me so certain that we're doing

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Speaker 2: the right thing with our lives. We're reaching the people

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Speaker 2: we need to be reaching.

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Speaker 3: You know, we forklift certified soldiers out there.

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Speaker 2: So Forklift Nation, thank you for listening to It could

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Speaker 2: Happen here.

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Speaker 3: We do this for you.

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00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: We do this for you. We know you have our

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Speaker 2: backs and we have your back.

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Speaker 3: Stay save everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, God blessed.

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