WEBVTT - Ep17 Magnus Walker

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of Car Stories with Someunky and

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<v Speaker 1>Amelia Hartford. Today we had Magnus Walker, who is a

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<v Speaker 1>legend in the car space and.

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<v Speaker 2>A real personal inspiration for myself, someone who inspired me

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<v Speaker 2>to have the courage to jump into the community and

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<v Speaker 2>not worry about whether people are thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, a spiritual person but also a hard

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<v Speaker 1>worker and hey, you know, nothing's going to get handed

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<v Speaker 1>to you. You have to work for what you want

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<v Speaker 1>in life and give it your all, which I respect.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think you guys are going to hear

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<v Speaker 2>a side to Magnus that you never knew. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a multi dimensional person with many layers and many, many

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<v Speaker 2>wise things to share, which today I know I'll walk

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<v Speaker 2>away with a lot of great, great tools in my box.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, absolutely, And I hope people listening have that same takeaway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure they will.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I believe it. How do you two know each other?

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<v Speaker 3>I met you through Fraser at E Garage when we

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<v Speaker 3>shot a video called Furious Outlaws where we swapped cars. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Sung drove two seven seven and I drove the Faguzi

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<v Speaker 3>for Gauz. You remember I couldn't pronounce it for.

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<v Speaker 2>Good blow His engine by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh really, yes, we never actually talked about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Happen, that that actually did matter drive a Porsche especially

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<v Speaker 2>actually happened. And he was so like calm about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, uh, he's gonna get freaking pissed, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and Magus was so zen. You know, hey, I did

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<v Speaker 2>blow his engine. Yeah, well, thankfully we finished the shoot

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<v Speaker 2>and it was.

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<v Speaker 3>On the way down the hill and I remember like

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<v Speaker 3>it went and I just remember pulling into the bottom

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<v Speaker 3>pull in where we pushed it into the spot for

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<v Speaker 3>the ending scene and then towed it home. So that

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<v Speaker 3>was how we met. And I think that was actually

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<v Speaker 3>twenty I should have looked it up, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about it this morning. I was really,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, looking forward to seeing you again, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, so, what does Magnus mean to me? And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I think I told you this, but

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<v Speaker 2>I always tell people this is that Magnus is the

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<v Speaker 2>reason I'm here sitting here right now with you, Amelia,

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<v Speaker 2>because Magnus is ted talk. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>had the privilege of listening to this, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's like nine years old, nine twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Fourteen, it's actually coming up on ten year aniverse years.

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<v Speaker 2>It moved me so much, right and yeah, and like

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<v Speaker 2>it gave me the courage to go, just go and

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<v Speaker 2>do it. Go go get into the car commutey because

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, hey man, you're just this actor from

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<v Speaker 2>the Fast movies. You can't do that. You can't pursue passion. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I always had interesting cars, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a mechanic. I'm not a race car driver. But I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have this imposter syndrome, things like I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be a poser. But you know, after I listened

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<v Speaker 2>to Magnus, it was the first person within the car

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<v Speaker 2>community that actually I could understand and his message resonated.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't about you know, I was a racer and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm you got to be a racer, you gotta be

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<v Speaker 2>a go to mechanics school. It's like it came from

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<v Speaker 2>a place of like, just be passionate about what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>be open minded. These doors open and you never know

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<v Speaker 2>what opportunities, what kind of people are you going to meet?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, And it's one of the most important TED talks,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, at least for me in my life. And

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<v Speaker 2>then for people in the car community, it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>must listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you for sharing that. The ironic thing about

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<v Speaker 3>the TED talk is I'd never even heard of TED

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<v Speaker 3>talks when they approached me to do one. Wow and

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<v Speaker 3>I got approached and they'd seen the Open Outlaw short

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<v Speaker 3>documentary film that came out late October twenty twelve and

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<v Speaker 3>early twenty fourteen. They approached me to do a TED talk,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, what's a TED Talk. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>know what one was. I didn't even watched it. And

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<v Speaker 3>long story short, you know, I told my story a

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<v Speaker 3>few times, so I was pretty comfortable telling my story,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was in an environment where people edited my story.

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<v Speaker 3>So doing a TED talk, you have eighteen minutes and

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<v Speaker 3>it's live. So for me, it was out of my

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<v Speaker 3>comfort zone school at fifteen, with not a lot of education.

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<v Speaker 3>I did my TED talk at UCLA on a big

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<v Speaker 3>stage in front of a thousand people, and I had

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<v Speaker 3>to sit through probably a dozen TED talks before I

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<v Speaker 3>went up, and I was pretty intimidated because these people

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about what I thought was important, stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't actually understand, and I'm just going up there

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<v Speaker 3>talking about go with your gout and do what feels right.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you know, I was pretty nervous, but the

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<v Speaker 3>Ted Talk taught me how to get to the point

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<v Speaker 3>quicker and actually how to be a more comfortable in

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<v Speaker 3>a public environment where you can't say, okay, stop, let

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<v Speaker 3>me redo that again. It was live, so I sort

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<v Speaker 3>of benefited from that. And the ironic thing with the

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<v Speaker 3>Ted Talk is it's the most viewed thing I've done.

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<v Speaker 3>Got over almost ten million views last time I looked. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I was aware of it, and I would say ninety

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<v Speaker 3>five percent of the people that have watched it had

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<v Speaker 3>no idea who and are not car people. But the message,

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<v Speaker 3>which you so eloquently put transcends the car generation or

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<v Speaker 3>the car community of just do what you love to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've got more feedback I can email from people

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<v Speaker 3>that watched the Ted Talk that said it inspired them

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<v Speaker 3>and motivated them to go do something that they were

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much intimidated by. And a lot of people had

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<v Speaker 3>gone down this path of going down a career that

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<v Speaker 3>they thought they had to do because their parents did it, doctor, lawyer,

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<v Speaker 3>something like that, but they weren't really happy in that

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<v Speaker 3>environment and really what they wanted to do was be

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<v Speaker 3>a skater or a surfer, or carguy or make candles

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever it was. And somehow there was a spark

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<v Speaker 3>of motivation through the Ted talk that I did. That

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<v Speaker 3>It was kind of like, oh, I should follow my passion,

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<v Speaker 3>follow my gun, and just do what I love to do,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's always sort of being my thing. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think you summed it up really well of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you sort of don't necessarily have to worry about what

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<v Speaker 3>other people think a lot of the time and just

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<v Speaker 3>do what makes you happy, what drives you on, what

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<v Speaker 3>motivates you. So that was the story behind the Ted talk,

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<v Speaker 3>So thanks for sharing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, your story will parallel a lot with it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think you know the generation or the

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<v Speaker 2>fan base that you inspire, you know, is gravitating towards

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<v Speaker 2>you because probably very similar things of what Magnus represents

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<v Speaker 2>for old people like me.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard people tell similar stories. You know, you grew

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<v Speaker 3>up as a kid. Everything starts at a young age

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<v Speaker 3>with a toy model, right whatever your car of choice

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<v Speaker 3>may be, Mine just happen to be Porsche. But I've

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<v Speaker 3>heard similar stories about people had their poster on the

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<v Speaker 3>wall followed their passion, you know, built their first car,

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<v Speaker 3>which might have been handed down from a family member

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<v Speaker 3>or some emotional connection. It's always an emotional connection I

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<v Speaker 3>feel to the car, which brings back what I call

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<v Speaker 3>memorable moments you first drive with your dud, or the

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<v Speaker 3>first car you learned to drive in, or the first

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<v Speaker 3>drive with your girlfriend, or whatever it may be. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of a common bond that I think people

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<v Speaker 3>can relate to because it's like, oh, yeah, that was me.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a poster on the wall. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's sort of what attracts people to that Ted talk

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<v Speaker 3>wance a hear and they go back to it is

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's they relate to. It's a relatable story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is something I always wanted to ask you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think probably people in the car community would

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<v Speaker 2>never guess this right. And you used to be a

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<v Speaker 2>cross country runner?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's no joke to be a competitive cross

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<v Speaker 2>country running gil.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean for me, I always describe myself as

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<v Speaker 3>a lone wolf in the sense of cross country running

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<v Speaker 3>as an individual sport. I was a middle distance run

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<v Speaker 3>across country runner, and ironically it started at a very

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<v Speaker 3>young age and it was back to passion. It was

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<v Speaker 3>something I enjoyed doing, and it was something I was

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<v Speaker 3>actually good at doing, and it was an activity that

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<v Speaker 3>didn't you don't need any any You don't need anything,

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<v Speaker 3>just a pair of running shoes and shorts and you

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<v Speaker 3>go do it. You don't have to rely on someone

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<v Speaker 3>else in the sense of a team. So I started

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<v Speaker 3>running at an early age and I talked about this

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<v Speaker 3>pivotal point for me that happened when I was eleven

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<v Speaker 3>years old. This was nineteen seventy eight and I'd been

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<v Speaker 3>running competitively and doing pretty well and ended up being

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<v Speaker 3>North England schoolboy champion and it was something I was

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<v Speaker 3>passionate about and motivated me. And at the time one

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<v Speaker 3>of my heroes was this athlete called Sebastian Co who

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<v Speaker 3>actually ran for this club that I ran for, called

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<v Speaker 3>the hallm Shah Harris. He was probably five six years

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<v Speaker 3>older and he wrote this, I got a CERTIFICATET, I

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<v Speaker 3>finished third and norlyput was well done, zep Co And

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<v Speaker 3>I still have this thing because he was an idol

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<v Speaker 3>of mine that I looked up to. I'd posted him

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<v Speaker 3>on the wall and it just goes to show one

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<v Speaker 3>word of encouragement, well two words, well done. I'm still

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<v Speaker 3>talking about it forty odd years later. Forty five years later,

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<v Speaker 3>and Sebastian Coe went on to be an Olympic champion

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<v Speaker 3>in the eight hundred and fifteen hundred meter discipline and

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<v Speaker 3>went on to be a world record holder in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty nineteen eighty four, the la Olympic Games in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty four. So it was a significant thing for me

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<v Speaker 3>that became what I call a teachable element where a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of confidence building doesn't really take a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of effort. When when people come up to me and say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they've watched my story, watch the film being

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<v Speaker 3>motivated by me, I always take time to sort of

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<v Speaker 3>give back because I always revert myself back to Sebastian

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<v Speaker 3>go signing the certificate, saying well done. So it's one

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<v Speaker 3>of those teachable elements that came through being a middle

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<v Speaker 3>distance runner, across country runner and looking back on my

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<v Speaker 3>life going back forty five years, I realized now which

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize at the time, that that discipline of

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<v Speaker 3>running twice a day, five days a week, setting goals,

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<v Speaker 3>being motivated to achieve those goals, having a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of success at an early age sort of set me

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<v Speaker 3>up for later on in life, you know, to actually

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<v Speaker 3>set a goal, be disciplined, motivated, work towards that, but

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<v Speaker 3>put the effort in. You know, you don't necessarily need

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<v Speaker 3>the experience or the talent that sort of helps, but

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<v Speaker 3>that develops and matures over time. You know, whatever it

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<v Speaker 3>is you want to do in life, I believe if

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<v Speaker 3>you put the energy in and put the effort in,

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<v Speaker 3>and be dedicated and don't give up, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people have great ideas, but they probably don't execute him

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<v Speaker 3>because they've run it by a friend. Thinking about doing

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<v Speaker 3>this thing, what do you think? The friend may be

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<v Speaker 3>negative and say I don't. I think that's a good

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<v Speaker 3>idea that'll never work type of scenario. So a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people don't cross the start line. It's like you,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what the story you just told? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>so a lot of people sort of back away from, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>the fear of failure. So I think for me having

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<v Speaker 3>that discipline as a young kid and then as a

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen year old, I worked on a summer camp with

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<v Speaker 3>inner city underprivileged kids north of Detroit and took a

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<v Speaker 3>Trailways bus from Detroit to La and arrived in LA.

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<v Speaker 3>This part of the story is pretty funny because I

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<v Speaker 3>came with this dream. I grew up watching a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of American TV, listening to American music. I was influenced

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<v Speaker 3>by American culture, so arriving in Hollywood it was weirdly

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<v Speaker 3>anti climatic because the Hollywood I had seen on TV

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<v Speaker 3>in the eighties. When I arrived at Union Station on

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<v Speaker 3>a Tuesday morning at four am in the morning, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>we're all the movie stars, We're all the rock stars,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. Then I arrived to Hollywood and that was

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<v Speaker 3>a really sort of wake up call on Hollywood Boulevard

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<v Speaker 3>in the mid eighties. But I clicked with it and

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<v Speaker 3>resonated with it, and every time I go past that YMCA,

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of a grounding thing for me because that

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<v Speaker 3>was ground based zero when I arrived here, not knowing anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm still here whatever it is thirty eight years later,

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<v Speaker 3>and La is home to me. And I spent nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>years in Sheffield, England, but all my adult life has

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<v Speaker 3>been LA. Like I never had a driver's licen in England,

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<v Speaker 3>never owned a car in England, never had my own apartment,

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<v Speaker 3>never had a real job. I was just sort of

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<v Speaker 3>bumming around and so La was the land of opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>It was everything I was into at the time. It

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<v Speaker 3>still is. It's still an inspiring place for me. La.

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<v Speaker 3>I get inspiration just walking around Hollywood. So ironically, Hannah

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<v Speaker 3>and I bought a house up the road less than

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<v Speaker 3>a mile up the road from here, in near the

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<v Speaker 3>Hollywood Bowl. It's one hundred year old Spanish house that

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<v Speaker 3>we're restoring. You know, I never lived in Hollywood. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>lived in Venice and downtown for thirty years, but i'd

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<v Speaker 3>go to Hollywood. But now living here, I'm walking around

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<v Speaker 3>all these places that bring back these memories of when

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<v Speaker 3>I first arrived, and it's kind of an inspiring thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, you still have your offed in downtown.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the way I talk about that, you're not getting

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<v Speaker 1>rid of it, are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Institution though?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this will be the twenty fourth year I've owned

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<v Speaker 3>that building. I've been downtown in the Arts District since

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety four. So in two thousand, I bought a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six thousand square foot building that was constructed in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen oh two. So that was where I ran my

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<v Speaker 3>clothing company. I lived in the loft. I accidentally fell

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<v Speaker 3>into the film location business twenty years ago by renting

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<v Speaker 3>that space out for everything like commercial filming, TV shows,

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<v Speaker 3>music videos, reality shows and along the way sort of,

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<v Speaker 3>how's my Porsche collection?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my dream is a warehouse similar to what you

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<v Speaker 1>have a high level goal one day.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you're going to make the dream come true? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>baby steps and take that leap of.

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<v Speaker 1>Face, I said, keep working out it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you got to keep doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you always been a very motivated person?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I think so. You know. I described myself as street

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<v Speaker 3>smart and I left school with two old levels at fifteen,

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<v Speaker 3>went on the doll But yeah, I think when I

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<v Speaker 3>arrived in la I had to be motivated because I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know anyone and I didn't want to go back home.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, failure would be returning to Sheffield, the city

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<v Speaker 3>I came from. Not that it's a bad place, but

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<v Speaker 3>everything sort of i'd grown up aspiring to be around

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<v Speaker 3>was literally here in la I have no education, and

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<v Speaker 3>essentially the clothing, property development and messing around with cars

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't like I went to school to learn any of that,

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<v Speaker 3>but I had an interest in it and a passion

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<v Speaker 3>and La is one of those places where opportunity just

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<v Speaker 3>sort of comes weirdly. You know. People say, you know, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you get lucky. I say, you make your own luck

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<v Speaker 3>by being put yourself in the right place at the

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<v Speaker 3>right time. But when someone offers you that opportunity that

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<v Speaker 3>may be scary to host a podcast, for example, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>sure do it? How bad can it be? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I was asking myself like, and that's so I went

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<v Speaker 2>into this rabbit hole of like, why is Magnus magnus? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I used this phrase like the light behind his eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>like the headlights are always on high beam where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I catch myself the lights start to dim after a

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<v Speaker 2>while for whatever factors, right, And I catch myself like, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be careful. You better go get a jolt, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get a jump somewhere. And I use running in my

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<v Speaker 2>daily life when things are really down and I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like unmotivated or I feel like, you know, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm making myself a victim to life, and like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, especially in our business of Hollywood, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a business of no's, Like you're never good enough, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's ninety nine point nine percent no, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for that point one thing. And so I started

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<v Speaker 2>adopting running because.

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<v Speaker 1>You like running.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it now as I'm older, because before because

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<v Speaker 2>I was so competitive because I was younger, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna run a marathon, and then I lose. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna win, right, and all these people are passing

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<v Speaker 2>men finishing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then now I now, I like, I have these

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<v Speaker 2>four hills that I run daily, like as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>I wake up up, like I go. I appreciate at

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<v Speaker 2>age fifty one that first of all, that I'm still

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<v Speaker 2>able to do it. Yeah, And I get up there

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<v Speaker 2>and I've learned, you know, gratitude which I never had, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and the I then the concept of even prayer. Right

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<v Speaker 2>Like in my travels, I've gotten to meet very spiritual people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was in Kyoto, Japan, which is like one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most spiritual places in Asia and especially Japan.

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<v Speaker 2>And this car guy Mirasan, who you know is Rocket Bunny.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you know Rocket Bunny. They make

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<v Speaker 2>body kids everytime I go to visit him. We never

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<v Speaker 2>do anything car related. He takes me straight to the

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<v Speaker 2>temples and he's like, and I feel like I have

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<v Speaker 2>to take you here. And I'm like to do what

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, it's a place where I give things that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm healthy enough to like come here that I get

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<v Speaker 2>to pursue this beautiful life of like making cars, I

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<v Speaker 2>get to meet friends like you, I get to have kids,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a wonderful wife and the full sun. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just give thanks and this is where I come

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<v Speaker 2>and I do this every day. And he's like, song,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have a place back in LA And I

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<v Speaker 2>go no. He goes, well, maybe you need to find Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So on this run, like I found this place which

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<v Speaker 2>there's a little bench somebody made, and I just go

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<v Speaker 2>there and I pray and I go thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>my wife, my life, thank you for this beautiful dog

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<v Speaker 2>and the other dog, thank you for this health. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I go thank you for today I get to

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<v Speaker 2>do a podcast with a couple of friends, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I go on my way. Second stage is harder, long,

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<v Speaker 2>long journey right up this mountain. Third stage is even

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<v Speaker 2>lonelier and colder. But then the fourth stage is back

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<v Speaker 2>down the mountain going home. And I'm like, wow, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not so bad, right, And I use that as like

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<v Speaker 2>a daily, like you know, kind of discipline to go Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>keep that keep that light behind your eyes, like positive.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I found out that you were a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>distance runner or a mid distance runner, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the foundation of how you're able to keep the

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<v Speaker 2>headlights right in life, right, you know?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I think, So how many miles a day do

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<v Speaker 3>you run?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like a five mile cour I used

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<v Speaker 2>to track everything and then that would get in the way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like I go, I didn't do twelve today, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do eighteen today. There was a time where I

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<v Speaker 2>was running like twenty two miles. Wow, I called the

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<v Speaker 2>forest gumping.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, running. I no longer run. I haven't run in

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<v Speaker 3>a long time. But I think once you get to

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<v Speaker 3>some point in life, priorities shift, things change, Things that

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<v Speaker 3>were important before are not quite as important at some point,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And he starts sort of thinking along the

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<v Speaker 3>lines of what you were talking about, you know, things

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<v Speaker 3>to keep me grounded but also motivated, keeping the light on,

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<v Speaker 3>the passion burning bright. You know my thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's twenty twenty four eyes, so these New Year's resolution,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know my thing is to continue doing what

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<v Speaker 3>I call cool shit with cool people, but collaborate and

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<v Speaker 3>create more with other people as opposed to being this

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<v Speaker 3>sort of lone wolf where you know, I'm a one

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<v Speaker 3>man of army doing stuff on myself because it is

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<v Speaker 3>hard to say motivated and actually, you know, continue to

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<v Speaker 3>create things that you're proud of all the time. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think life goes in this circle of highs and

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<v Speaker 3>lows and you know, peaks and plateaus, and you reach

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<v Speaker 3>a certain level and then sidestep, maybe take a different

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<v Speaker 3>turn and see where that road goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you one hundred percent committed to drag racing?

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever I do something, I'm doing giving it one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and ten percent. I really don't have ass things that

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<v Speaker 1>I do. That's why I never went or I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>gone into a competitive racing series because of I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>take on responsibility of racing and then book a role

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<v Speaker 1>and know that I have to let down sponsors or

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<v Speaker 1>I can't or all lose points because I can't race

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<v Speaker 1>because then I'm not giving up one hundred and ten percent.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like everything I do, I have to give everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can relate that completely. Kind of like I

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<v Speaker 3>used to do a lot of track days from two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand and two to two thousand and eight, and I

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<v Speaker 3>went through the program where you turn up with a

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<v Speaker 3>street car, you do some time trialing, then you go

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<v Speaker 3>next level, you get club race license. You're doing some

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<v Speaker 3>wil to wheel. But I'm still doing it in two

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<v Speaker 3>seven seven streetable track car, not a fully caged dedicated

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<v Speaker 3>race car, because I like the idea of driving it

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<v Speaker 3>to the track and back. And so you go down

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<v Speaker 3>this slippery slope, I think you can probably relate to

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<v Speaker 3>it right where you just get in it. You get

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<v Speaker 3>motivated the time, the energy of the dedication, your craft

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<v Speaker 3>gets better, you become a better driver. I started instructing,

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<v Speaker 3>but then they became a point where the more competitive

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<v Speaker 3>it became, you know, these three day events become all

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<v Speaker 3>consuming prep in the car. You got to travel it

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<v Speaker 3>five day event. And for me, the more competitive it became,

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<v Speaker 3>the less fun it became. And I said to myself,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of done with this because I'm no longer

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent committed to doing this. And I realized,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're not one hundred percent committed to being on

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<v Speaker 3>the track, you don't go on the track, because that's

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<v Speaker 3>when stuff goes wrong. When you're not one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 3>committed or at least from my point of view, is

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<v Speaker 3>like there's a shadow of doubt. Second guess, in yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>I was no longer a competitive I.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonder if that notion of that being one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 2>committed to something. I wonder if you can apply that

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<v Speaker 2>to anything you want to be successful?

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<v Speaker 1>Enough? Oh, I think everything everything in life.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, you've got to believe in yourself and

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<v Speaker 3>have confidence that you're going to be able to achieve

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<v Speaker 3>this goal that you've set, whatever it may be running

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<v Speaker 3>up the hill faster, going around a track faster, or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think you need that inner self confidence and

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<v Speaker 3>focus where you can block out the external negativity and

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<v Speaker 3>noise that might distract you and derailue first of all.

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<v Speaker 3>But ultimately, I think whatever it is you're doing, whether

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<v Speaker 3>you're making candles or surfing or whatever, you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>be one hundred percent committed to it. Otherwise I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think you give your role. And I think that's the

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<v Speaker 3>difference right there.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're very selective on what you focus your energy on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>were you always like that or did you have to

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<v Speaker 2>learn that?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I wasn't. I wasn't. I was very competitive

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<v Speaker 1>growing up, but I feel like when I was growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do and try everything to get experience

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. And I think once I solidified with the

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<v Speaker 1>things in my life that I was most passionate about,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when I had that shift happen of Okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>this is it, this is what I'm doing. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to give it my all because we get one life

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<v Speaker 1>on this earth. I don't want to become older and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, man, I should have tried a little harder.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, so it's okay to lose passion, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I think generally what happens is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll find passion elsewhere. Yeah, you know, different opportunity. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you've got to be committed to what you're doing,

0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:01.439
<v Speaker 3>and you got to prioritize, like if acting's more over priority,

0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:05.280
<v Speaker 3>then drag racing is you follow that path until maybe

0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:09.160
<v Speaker 3>acting is not quite as exciting or nurturing, or you're

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:10.919
<v Speaker 3>not getting as much out of it, or or you

0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:12.360
<v Speaker 3>just feel like you need a break and you need

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<v Speaker 3>to try something else. Yeah. So you know, for me,

0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:18.200
<v Speaker 3>I never had a plan. You know, people talk about

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<v Speaker 3>where do you see yourself in especially at school, where

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:23.280
<v Speaker 3>do you see yourself in five years, ten years, twenty years.

0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:25.520
<v Speaker 3>I never had that plan, you know, and that sort

0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:29.639
<v Speaker 3>of enabled me to really just go with a flow.

0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:31.760
<v Speaker 3>And then you get to a certain point, opportunity comes

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<v Speaker 3>up and you go, yeah, that feels good. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>when we bought the building downtown, the warehouse, like in

0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:40.399
<v Speaker 3>two thousand. People thought were crazy at the time for

0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:42.400
<v Speaker 3>doing that, but it was the best thing we ever did,

0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:45.480
<v Speaker 3>you know. I was able to house the cars, got

0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:48.480
<v Speaker 3>into the film location business, ran a clothing company, and

0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:51.840
<v Speaker 3>then the neighborhood came up around and now the arts

0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:54.040
<v Speaker 3>district is kind of like the new Culver City, the

0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 3>new Venice.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so expensive. I was looking for shop space

0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:59.240
<v Speaker 1>over there and oh my gosh.

0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it wasn't like that twenty twenty five years ago.

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.160
<v Speaker 3>But I took a leap of faith, bought this building,

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.119
<v Speaker 3>restored this building, and everything that I've been talking about

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.920
<v Speaker 3>since I walked through that door sort of happened through

0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:12.680
<v Speaker 3>that building. And I have to sort of be grounded

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:16.439
<v Speaker 3>in an environment that I feel comfortable in that it's creative. Sometimes,

0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:18.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'll go to car collections and people who've

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:21.199
<v Speaker 3>got fancy, great stuff, but I look at where it

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 3>is and it's in some concrete tilt up and it's

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:25.400
<v Speaker 3>just a generic space.

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:28.240
<v Speaker 1>And to me, you know, lack of character.

0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's all. Yeah, the sole character, Betina. You know,

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 3>it all needs to be housed in this environment that

0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 3>reflects my personality. Like someone's got great, flashy cars that

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:43.920
<v Speaker 3>they don't drive in a clinical industrial building. I go,

0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:47.199
<v Speaker 3>this just doesn't I'm not interested in that. Like when

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:48.720
<v Speaker 3>people want to show me cars that I have no

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:50.439
<v Speaker 3>miles on it and they're proud of it because you know,

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.439
<v Speaker 3>they don't drive it, I go, well, it's kind of

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 3>built to be driven, right, I'm more interested in showing

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 3>me the car with a million miles on it, because

0:23:56.720 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 3>that's got the stories and the memorable moments and the history,

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.199
<v Speaker 3>and that's just more interesting to me.

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:05.399
<v Speaker 2>Because you left fashion, I mean that was a passion

0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:08.359
<v Speaker 2>of yours because yeah, yeah, right, And then I mean,

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 2>how were you able to leave that, like because there

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 2>was such a big, pretty person.

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I started selling second nd clothing on the

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:17.720
<v Speaker 3>boardwalk in Venice in the late eighties. You know, I'd

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 3>go to yard sales by Levi's for like fifty cents,

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 3>cut up some shirts, so some patches on it. It

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:25.439
<v Speaker 3>was a creative outlet for me, you know, And it

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 3>was I was coming at it from this rock and

0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:30.679
<v Speaker 3>roll I guess, pseudo hippie thing. And then late eighties

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 3>early nineties the rave scene took off and everyone was

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 3>into sort of flower power and whimsical floppy hats and

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 3>it was just a whole movement, and that led into

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:43.679
<v Speaker 3>developing this clothing company called Serious. Like I said, it

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 3>was a rock and roll brand that I was passionate about.

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 3>It was just I didn't my mama taught me how

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 3>to sew, because at the time, I tried to make

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 3>my jeans as tired as possible and sew patches on

0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 3>my den and jacket so I could sew. So that

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:57.680
<v Speaker 3>was kind of a little skill set that I had,

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:00.399
<v Speaker 3>and it was just kind of easy to get into.

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 3>And I realized back to like the running thing, once

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 3>I had a little bit of success by making something

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 3>that people actually appreciated and bought and generated some income,

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 3>so I was financially stable on my own. It was

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 3>baby steps, but it was the same connection as the running.

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:22.160
<v Speaker 3>I talk about this a little bit sometimes. The three

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 3>things that I've done in the past forty years with

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:26.640
<v Speaker 3>no education. And I mentioned it earlier was the clothing

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 3>property development cause the common bond thread was I was

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:33.159
<v Speaker 3>passionate about so the clothing company. I just liked what

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 3>we were making. Other people liked it. It got into

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 3>this rock and roll lifestyle, you know, opened up a

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 3>lot of opportunities to work with bands, got some magazine coverage,

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 3>and this all happened sort of, you know, way before

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:48.200
<v Speaker 3>the Internet. This was eighties and nineties. You know, there

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:51.639
<v Speaker 3>was no thing as Instagram and Facebook and social media,

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 3>and in a way, it was sort of easier when

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:57.119
<v Speaker 3>I look back then, you know, you weren't wasting time

0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:59.679
<v Speaker 3>checking your phone and do people like this? Not like it?

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:03.199
<v Speaker 3>Didn't like I liked it, We sold it, Other people

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 3>liked it, bands wore it. Move on, just always evolving,

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 3>not second guessing, not worrying about what other people think.

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 3>So to answer your question, I closed Serious down in

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 3>twenty eleven, and probably two three years before. I was

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 3>now in my early forties, so I wasn't going out

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 3>as much to clubs. I didn't really have to dress up,

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 3>and you know, sort of I just lost interest in it.

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:29.879
<v Speaker 3>I'd lost passion for it. You know it had become

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:33.879
<v Speaker 3>sort of didn't interest me, didn't motivate me, and the

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 3>last couple of years of doing it was sort of

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 3>treading water. Sales were dwindling, but all of our friends

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:41.640
<v Speaker 3>worked for the company, and we just sort of gave

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 3>them like six months notice of Hey, we're going to

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 3>close this thing down. We didn't sell it, you know,

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:49.239
<v Speaker 3>we just sort of ended it. We just shipped all

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:52.439
<v Speaker 3>our orders and said, Okay, we're done with that chapter

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 3>of the life. And thankfully the film location business was

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 3>successful enough that it was paying the mortgage on the building,

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 3>and I didn't know what was going to come next.

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 3>But I like to say the clothing company took a

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:07.160
<v Speaker 3>lot of time and energy to continually be on top

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 3>of it because we might be designed and manufacture it. It

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:11.679
<v Speaker 3>wasn't like we just bought t shirts and did its

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 3>green prints. We actually did the whole thing. So it

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.640
<v Speaker 3>was a full time operation. And when I closed that down,

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 3>I had a lot of time and didn't know what

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.199
<v Speaker 3>was coming next. Back to this, I hadn't planned for

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 3>life after running a clothing company, But what happened within

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 3>six months was Timer Moscovich's short documentary Urban Outlaw that

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 3>put me on the map, and then the next sort

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.959
<v Speaker 3>of ten twelve years from twenty twelve that film came

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 3>out October fifteenth, twenty twelve. I got invited all around

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 3>the world to go to events and travel and car

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 3>related stuff. And the point to my rambling here is

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 3>if I was still running the clothing company, managing a

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 3>business with employees, I would never have had the time

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 3>to take advantage of these opportunities of travel, meet people

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 3>like Bob Ing and go to Japan, hang out with

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 3>the Kayas out all this cool stuff. You know, I

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 3>ended up in need for speed video game and various

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 3>other things that just became my focus. But I hadn't

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 3>planned it, but indirectly I'd closed the door of the

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 3>clothing company that was a sixty hour a week, all

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 3>consuming gig. And then when people started inviting me places

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.439
<v Speaker 3>to do things I was passionate about, nothing was holding

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 3>me back. I had a passport, and you know, you

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 3>could say to me today, do you want to go

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 3>somewhere on Friday? I'd be like, sure, I'll go. So

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 3>sometimes you got to take this leap of faith and

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 3>not be so hemmed into this is where I need

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 3>to be at this certain time with this rigid sort

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 3>of sometimes restrictions on can't do this, can't do that.

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 3>So that was the ultimate freedom, being able to do

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 3>whatever you wanted to do, when you wanted to do it,

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 3>when the opportunity arose in that sort of environment. So

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 3>closing down serious clothing wasn't a hard decision. It was

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of like when we did it, were like, we

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 3>should have done this two years before, But in reality,

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 3>if we've done it two years before, urban outlaw wasn't out.

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>So well, everything happens for a reason, and time is

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the reason. Not everything happens at once, and.

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 3>You've got to be patient and just let things evolve sometimes.

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think it's true to that you need

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>to create space in your life to allow new things

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>to come in.

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very much.

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 2>I've always wanted to ask you this question, especially these days,

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and if you're uncomfortable with with it, we can actually

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 2>cut this.

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Out, go for it.

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Karen was your first wife, right.

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 3>Well, actually she was. I was married before she was

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 3>my second wife. I'd been with Karen for twenty one years.

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 2>And that's who you started the business with, and you

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 2>had a wonderful life with her. She has passed away, right,

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:01.719
<v Speaker 2>So my question is a personal question because you know,

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 2>my father, my stepfather, as of late, he's very unhealthy, right,

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 2>and I guess, you know, everyone's preparing for him to

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 2>leave us, right, And I do feel like it's gonna

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 2>rock me and my sister. And there's a lot of

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 2>like regrets that I have that I'm trying to like

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 2>sort out in my personal life with him, you know,

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 2>because it wasn't always rosy with him. For someone who's

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:37.479
<v Speaker 2>gone through this loss of someone that is you know,

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 2>important to you, Like how do you not let those

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.719
<v Speaker 2>things dim your light? Magnus because we're talking about all

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 2>like everything is very inspirational here, like it's and to

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 2>the listener it could sound like, oh everything was so

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 2>nice man, right, but the room I have to realize

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 2>you're a human and it's not always nice right now.

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, Karen passed away in twenty fifteen, and

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 3>I met her in nineteen ninety four, so we've been

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 3>together twenty one years and we built this thing together,

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 3>the clothing company, and bought the building. And Karen's passing

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 3>was a real shock. That didn't see it coming. It

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 3>wasn't expected, it wasn't expected, you know, it was. It

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 3>was a terrible loss, and you know, I had no

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 3>time to plan for the inevitable. Like my father passed

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 3>away in twenty twelve, and I sort of had a

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 3>turbulent relationship with my father. Because this will be a

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 3>long answer to your question, but I think there'll be

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 3>some relevance to it. You talk to Ryon about me

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 3>being a cross country running a middle distance run, and

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 3>I talked at some detail about having a certain amount

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 3>of early success at that and my father was there

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 3>with me through that. And once I hit the age

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 3>of like fourteen, in England, you can go to the pub,

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 3>start drinking. I was going to rock and roll shows.

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 3>I just stopped running. And it really hurt my dad.

0:31:56.560 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 3>But being from England and northern and in this eighties period,

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 3>he couldn't communicate, you know. And it was like I

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 3>talked about SEBC riding well done. I didn't talk about

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 3>my dad patter me on the back and saying well done,

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 3>because he never did it. Yeah, So you know, I

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 3>think it's usual for guys to have turbulent relationships with

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 3>the father, and that was my setup with my father.

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, he'd say cut your and get a real job. Well,

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 3>I've probably hinted I've had long hair for forty five years,

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 3>and I've never had a real job. I've never worked

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 3>for anyone else. So my dad and I buttered heads,

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 3>and when I came to America as a nineteen year old,

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 3>the goal was never to go back to England because

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to go back to that environment and

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 3>that represented failure for me. So when I met Karen

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 3>in ninety four, you know, and we sort of formed

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 3>together and grew together, and we were together all the time.

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 3>When she passed out of the blue. There'd been some issues,

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 3>but it wasn't looking like someone has a terminal disease.

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 3>Like my father was diagnosed with cancer in twenty ten

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 3>and passed away in twenty twelve. But he wasn't active,

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, sort of let life slip him by, kind

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 3>of the I think that was what part of what

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 3>motivated me to never give up was I'd seen my

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 3>father give up at an early age and it didn't

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 3>look good and he didn't really have any goals. You know,

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 3>he could have achieved stuff, but he wasn't one hundred

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 3>percent committed and didn't put the energy in. So when

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 3>my father passed away. It was sad, but I didn't

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 3>have this great relationship with him. When Karen passed away,

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 3>it was it was the end of the world, and

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 3>I thought my life was over and that part of

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 3>my life was over. And then eighteen months later, when

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 3>I turned fifty, I met Hannah and that was the

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 3>beginning of a second leaf on life, a second opportunity,

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 3>a second chapter in my story. Turning fifty was kind

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 3>of a big deal because people say it's just a number,

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, health became a thing, mental health and physical health.

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 3>He can go running and you know, ironically, within six

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 3>months of Karen passing away, one day, I was on

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 3>the Sixth Street bridge. They closed it down and I

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 3>hopped The bridge was dark, they were just about to

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 3>tear it down, and I hopped over the wall and

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 3>I hadn't anticipated the rise of the incline. When I

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 3>dropped on the other side, it was like a ten

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 3>foot drop, and I felt like, oh, that didn't line well,

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 3>I shouldn't have done that. Long story short kind of

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 3>went undiagnosed. I'm walking around traveling. Four months later, I

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 3>can't walk and excruciating pain. I find out I had

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 3>stress fracture cracks on both of my tibbers essentially broke

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 3>both my legs, but I was still walking. But that

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 3>put me in a wheelchair for two months, and I

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 3>think in a way it was it was something out

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:37.359
<v Speaker 3>of my control that forced me to slow down and

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 3>stop because I hadn't stopped. Once she passed, I just

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 3>sort of shifted gears and went in another direction. So

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't really know if there's an answer here other

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 3>than you find a way to deal with situations and

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 3>adapt to that environment, whether you plan it or like

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.359
<v Speaker 3>me being in a wheelchair for two months. It's a

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.959
<v Speaker 3>tough thing and everyone deals with in a different way,

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 3>and I don't feel there's any right and wrong way

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 3>to deal with it.

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's a great answer question. And

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 2>the way I'm interpreting it is like it's not going

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 2>to be a I'll send a new paint job on

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.280
<v Speaker 2>the carts. Can they be part of your patina?

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 2>And you just got to accept it.

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>And it's sitting here and trying not to tear up.

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 2>It's sad, you know, and it's not going to be easy,

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 2>but life goes on and you just got to sort

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:29.760
<v Speaker 2>of keep moving forward.

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, can I add to that conversation. I know we've

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>talked about in the past. Death is so hard and

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 1>it breaks my heart to hear everything that you went through.

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Obviously it's no secret about my life all the shit

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:44.359
<v Speaker 1>that I've gone through, But I will say, you don't

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>want to live with any regret, and I think if

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you're questioning it, it might be worthwhile to at least

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>have the conversation, you know, question.

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I do feel like I'm going to where I am

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 2>currently today. If my dad passed away, I would have

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 2>tons of regret. But yeah, similar to you, like, you know,

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 2>he's old school dude, and we just it's like we

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 2>have so many things to go over. But it's kind

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 2>of irony of life is that he's passing away because

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 2>of dementia and he doesn't even remember. So it's kind

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 2>of like I start laughing. Remember, this is like I

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 2>don't remember, I don't even know who you are.

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, I just started laughing for you. Even though

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 3>he's not going to remember. You got to get it out,

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, because he's not going to remember it,

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.439
<v Speaker 3>but you're letting it go whilst he's still here.

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 1>And second off that after my dad passed. Someone told

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 1>me something because they hadn't lost their father as well.

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:48.800
<v Speaker 1>He was almost a decade prior, and he said to

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>me not a single day had gone by that he

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 1>hadn't thought of his dad, And that hit a chord.

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, oh shit, because I mean, I'm

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 1>going to live the rest of my life thinking about

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 1>the fact that my dad's died at least once every

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:01.879
<v Speaker 1>single day. And truth is, yeah, I think at least

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>once a day for my entire life, I've thought of him.

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 1>And I share that because that's the regret, I think,

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 1>because if you do find yourself thinking about it, at

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>least in mind sense, that's mine. Everyone everyone's going to

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 1>go through their own thing. You don't want to have

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 1>those thoughts of should I have just had the.

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 3>Even if he's not relating to it, you're expressing your

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:29.400
<v Speaker 3>emotions and letting it out. Whether he receives it or

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 3>not kind of irrelevant, I think, because you're going to

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.359
<v Speaker 3>let it go. Yeah, it sounds like he's not going

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:38.920
<v Speaker 3>to be able to absorb it through the dementia, but

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 3>I think you'll feel lighter that you said whatever it

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 3>is you got to say.

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's it's one of those like mountains

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 2>that I look up and I go, I got to

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:50.839
<v Speaker 2>run that.

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>But you're doing it every day baby steps.

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's the thing that I do feel like

0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 2>at fifty one today, like if I don't resolve this,

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 2>this is something that will carry with me for the

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 2>rest of my life.

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:06.399
<v Speaker 3>That's a lot of weight.

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>You said it yourself. Your run is in four stages. Yeah, first, yeah.

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Many times you know the answer, huh, you just gotta

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 2>you know. The good thing is that, you know, my

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 2>manager I was like talking to him like last week

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.879
<v Speaker 2>and he goes, you know, it's interesting because like you're

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 2>so Asian and I was like, what that's like is

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 2>that racist thing? And he's like, no, because you hold

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:35.240
<v Speaker 2>everything in, like you don't you know, the squeaky wheel

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 2>gets the oil. He's like, it's it's like I'm not

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 2>saying complaining. He's like, you gotta actually talk like you

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 2>just hold everything in. It's like you just try to

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:45.959
<v Speaker 2>take care of everything and then we don't know what's

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:46.839
<v Speaker 2>what you're going through.

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of a lot the British thing as well.

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:50.839
<v Speaker 3>Keep calm, carry on, you know, we don't let it out.

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, but it's not always healthy.

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 3>I guess, no, this is what I'm learning.

0:38:56.239 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's something that I'm realizing. I at least I'm

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 2>willing to talk about it because then, you know, you know,

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 2>your point of reference is that he gives me courage. Like, yeah,

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 2>you're right, you know, it's like it's not something I

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 2>should avoid.

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:12.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, well if the conversation goes bad, doesn't sound

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>like he might remember it. Sorry, it's funny.

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Laugh at I was like, I was like, because I

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:24.360
<v Speaker 2>used to carry it like it was like this bag

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 2>of rocks, like of anger. I was like, and one

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 2>day I'm gonna sit down with you and I'm just

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna like throw the rocks at you. And then I

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 2>was like, he ain't remember I'm talking about I just

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 2>started laughing. I was like, this is you can't make

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 2>this stuff up, no script, right.

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:42.839
<v Speaker 3>This is not an act. This is like the real

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 3>emotion coming out. I got one more store. That's gonna

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 3>time real briefly because Okay, with my dad, I remember

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 3>the last real time I spent with him. It was

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:54.839
<v Speaker 3>probably the last time he came out to l I said,

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 3>two thousand nine, twenty ten, and we went on this

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 3>my cap adventure to go check some you know, bonfind

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 3>porsches that we'd seen on craigslist. You know, it became

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 3>this all day journey. I remember drove in my Irish

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 3>Green sixty sixth nine to eleven, and we drove somewhere

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:11.920
<v Speaker 3>out to the Inland Empire to look at something and

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't quite what it was supposed to be. And

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:17.720
<v Speaker 3>then the guy goes, no, my body out near California City.

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 3>He's got like a bunch of cars in his backyard.

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 3>So we headed on this other journey. By the time

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 3>we got back home, we only thought we were going

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:27.439
<v Speaker 3>for two hours. It'd been like an eight hour day.

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 3>We'd driven like three hundred miles. We'd looked at a

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 3>pile of crap cars that weren't worth five hundred bucks.

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 3>We didn't buy anything, but we kind of had like

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 3>this breakthrough moment of I never spent eight hours in

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.799
<v Speaker 3>a car with my dad when I was driving, when

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 3>he wasn't shouting at my mom for giving him the

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 3>wrong directions or whatever it was, and it just sort

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 3>of became this full circle moment of I guess we

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 3>both realized at that point, without saying sorry, that we'd

0:40:56.640 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 3>sort of resolved whatever issues, resent and anger whatever. You know,

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 3>It's like, yeah, I never cut my hair, I never

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:08.800
<v Speaker 3>got a real job. But we're doing okay here, right,

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 3>So Vegas, haf One, you.

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Were there, Thank you.

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I was there.

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:16.840
<v Speaker 3>What's your take on Vegas? Seemed like pretty good to me?

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was great. I really had a great time.

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I found obviously different from other races that I've been to,

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 1>because it felt like wherever you bought your tickets you

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 1>were kind of gridlocked. You couldn't walk the track or

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 1>go explore. But I had a great time. I thought

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 1>it was fun. I thought they put up a great event.

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 3>It was well organized, I'll say that. Yeah, yeah, I

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 3>mean we were there. You know, I think everyone sort

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 3>of thought it was going to be a shit show

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 3>and it wasn't.

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Well. Everyone was like premptively like talking shit, prepared for

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:43.239
<v Speaker 1>it to be.

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 3>But you know, they made a couple of mistakes, but

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 3>that was first time out.

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you got to you gotta fail somehow to learn, right.

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I mean I thought the event was great.

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 3>It looked spectacular, and I say it was a win

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 3>win all around Vegas.

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>That's way you can't believe anything you read on there.

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I said, See all these terrible things.

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wait, I'm here right now. It's not like

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:04.280
<v Speaker 1>that exactly.

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:07.360
<v Speaker 2>That's all because it was only negative like feedback. And

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:09.680
<v Speaker 2>then when I talked to you and talk to you

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 2>and anybody went through, it was great. Vegas is curreat

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 2>it's the hospitality town.

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 3>It was really really cool.

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Huh.

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 3>What are you guys looking forward to this year when

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:19.880
<v Speaker 3>it comes to car related stuff? You got a King

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 3>of Hammers and events like that there.

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Now, I'll be going to Tokyotoslan.

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:23.879
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Have you been to Auto Salon?

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:27.759
<v Speaker 3>No, I've never been. I've been to Tokyo, but no,

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:29.759
<v Speaker 3>I'd love to go there. Hannah and I are off

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 3>to a retromobile in Paris, cowing up. We've gone there before.

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 3>We're going to go to Amelia Island. Have you ever

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 3>gone there? The concoct Yeah. Yeah. So ironically this is

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 3>I've been invited back to be a judge, which is

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 3>kind of ironic. It's a third time, and I'm the

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 3>guy that's always sort of saying, you know, I'm anti

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 3>car show. It's my pet peeve of people with white

0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 3>gloves and Q tips, judging your car and telling you

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:56.279
<v Speaker 3>what's right and wrong about it. But two years ago

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.320
<v Speaker 3>I got invited to be a judge there and it

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 3>was great because I met Peter Brock, He's a legend,

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 3>John Oates legend, ended up becoming friends with John O's.

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 3>He came down the ware house.

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 2>He's a big Porscha guy.

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's super cool, down the earth, talented guy. So

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 3>that that was a great example of something that I'd

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:14.799
<v Speaker 3>sort of turned my nose up a little bit. I

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 3>guess it's all about evolving and brought like collaborating with

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 3>other people and you never know, you know what opportunities.

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, that door opens, Like meeting John Oates and

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Peter brook was a great opportunity. And yeah, that's what

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 3>brings pure motor heads, geareds, whatever you want to call them,

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 3>call people together. Is the joy of this, this this thing, right,

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 3>you know this, you know it's an appliance, right, But

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 3>it's more than that. You know, it takes you on

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:41.840
<v Speaker 3>this journey. It's more than something that communitates you on

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 3>a journey. For me to be it opens up the

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 3>world to sharing stories like we're doing here.

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to articulate to people that don't like cars.

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<v Speaker 2>Why the connections work right? It's like dog people. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like if you have dogs, like instantly like oh okay dog,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's like, hey, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey?

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<v Speaker 2>You know it's that connective tissue.

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<v Speaker 3>Causing dougs go together. Yeah, yeah, does he run with you?

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<v Speaker 2>He runs on Fridays with me, but he doesn't like Thursdays.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I'm worried. I'm worried that he's as he

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<v Speaker 2>gets older, he's going to have some albums. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to do this. So on Friday he wants

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<v Speaker 2>to come, but you know, I take him for as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as I run, either before after I take him

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<v Speaker 2>on a long walk. But on Fridays he gets to

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<v Speaker 2>actually run with me, and he loves it. I do

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<v Speaker 2>want it this year. And someone told me give me advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't tell people like your plans, right, but this is

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<v Speaker 2>a goal that I have.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds to me like you're telling people you want to

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<v Speaker 3>do it. Huh. Sounds to me like telling people you

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<v Speaker 3>want to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you going to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Ultra ultra which is like sixty and then there's one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and there's two fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a long long way.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be there cheering you on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you won't because it's like it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a lot of finish line, that's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>steps hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to challenge like I want to fight, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Fight through, go to break through the wall? Is that

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<v Speaker 3>what they call it? The wall? And when is that

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<v Speaker 3>the eighteen mile marker?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's the wolf. But anyway, get out and run.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but thank you magnus.

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<v Speaker 1>This was Yeah, really appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful coming by, coming on, coming in, Appreciate the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thanks for coming on.