1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Car Stories with Someunky and 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: Amelia Hartford. Today we had Magnus Walker, who is a 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: legend in the car space and. 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 2: A real personal inspiration for myself, someone who inspired me 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 2: to have the courage to jump into the community and 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: not worry about whether people are thinking. 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, a spiritual person but also a hard 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: worker and hey, you know, nothing's going to get handed 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: to you. You have to work for what you want 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: in life and give it your all, which I respect. 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you guys are going to hear 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: a side to Magnus that you never knew. This is 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: a multi dimensional person with many layers and many, many 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: wise things to share, which today I know I'll walk 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: away with a lot of great, great tools in my box. 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: Now, absolutely, And I hope people listening have that same takeaway. 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they will. 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it. How do you two know each other? 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: I met you through Fraser at E Garage when we 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: shot a video called Furious Outlaws where we swapped cars. Yeah, 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: Sung drove two seven seven and I drove the Faguzi 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: for Gauz. You remember I couldn't pronounce it for. 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: Good blow His engine by the way. 24 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: Oh really, yes, we never actually talked about that. 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: Happen, that that actually did matter drive a Porsche especially 26 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: actually happened. And he was so like calm about it. 27 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: I was like, uh, he's gonna get freaking pissed, right, 28 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: and Magus was so zen. You know, hey, I did 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: blow his engine. Yeah, well, thankfully we finished the shoot 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: and it was. 31 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: On the way down the hill and I remember like 32 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: it went and I just remember pulling into the bottom 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: pull in where we pushed it into the spot for 34 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: the ending scene and then towed it home. So that 35 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: was how we met. And I think that was actually 36 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: twenty I should have looked it up, but I think 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: it was twenty sixteen. 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: I was thinking about it this morning. I was really, 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: you know, looking forward to seeing you again, and I 40 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: was like, so, what does Magnus mean to me? And 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: I don't think I think I told you this, but 42 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: I always tell people this is that Magnus is the 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: reason I'm here sitting here right now with you, Amelia, 44 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: because Magnus is ted talk. I don't know if you 45 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: had the privilege of listening to this, but I think 46 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: it's like nine years old, nine twenty. 47 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: Fourteen, it's actually coming up on ten year aniverse years. 48 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: It moved me so much, right and yeah, and like 49 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: it gave me the courage to go, just go and 50 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: do it. Go go get into the car commutey because 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: I was like, hey man, you're just this actor from 52 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: the Fast movies. You can't do that. You can't pursue passion. Like, 53 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 2: you know, I always had interesting cars, but I'm not 54 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: a mechanic. I'm not a race car driver. But I'm like, 55 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: I have this imposter syndrome, things like I don't want 56 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: to be a poser. But you know, after I listened 57 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: to Magnus, it was the first person within the car 58 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: community that actually I could understand and his message resonated. 59 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: It wasn't about you know, I was a racer and 60 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 2: I'm you got to be a racer, you gotta be 61 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: a go to mechanics school. It's like it came from 62 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: a place of like, just be passionate about what you're doing, 63 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: be open minded. These doors open and you never know 64 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: what opportunities, what kind of people are you going to meet? 65 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: You know, And it's one of the most important TED talks, 66 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: I think, at least for me in my life. And 67 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: then for people in the car community, it's like a 68 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: must listen. 69 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for sharing that. The ironic thing about 70 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: the TED talk is I'd never even heard of TED 71 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: talks when they approached me to do one. Wow and 72 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: I got approached and they'd seen the Open Outlaw short 73 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: documentary film that came out late October twenty twelve and 74 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: early twenty fourteen. They approached me to do a TED talk, 75 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: and I'm like, what's a TED Talk. I didn't even 76 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: know what one was. I didn't even watched it. And 77 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: long story short, you know, I told my story a 78 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: few times, so I was pretty comfortable telling my story, 79 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: but it was in an environment where people edited my story. 80 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: So doing a TED talk, you have eighteen minutes and 81 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: it's live. So for me, it was out of my 82 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: comfort zone school at fifteen, with not a lot of education. 83 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: I did my TED talk at UCLA on a big 84 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: stage in front of a thousand people, and I had 85 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: to sit through probably a dozen TED talks before I 86 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: went up, and I was pretty intimidated because these people 87 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: were talking about what I thought was important, stuff that 88 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: I didn't actually understand, and I'm just going up there 89 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: talking about go with your gout and do what feels right. 90 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 3: And so you know, I was pretty nervous, but the 91 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: Ted Talk taught me how to get to the point 92 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 3: quicker and actually how to be a more comfortable in 93 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 3: a public environment where you can't say, okay, stop, let 94 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: me redo that again. It was live, so I sort 95 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: of benefited from that. And the ironic thing with the 96 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: Ted Talk is it's the most viewed thing I've done. 97 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: Got over almost ten million views last time I looked. Oh, 98 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 3: I was aware of it, and I would say ninety 99 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: five percent of the people that have watched it had 100 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: no idea who and are not car people. But the message, 101 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: which you so eloquently put transcends the car generation or 102 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: the car community of just do what you love to do. 103 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 3: And I've got more feedback I can email from people 104 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: that watched the Ted Talk that said it inspired them 105 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: and motivated them to go do something that they were 106 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: pretty much intimidated by. And a lot of people had 107 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 3: gone down this path of going down a career that 108 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 3: they thought they had to do because their parents did it, doctor, lawyer, 109 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: something like that, but they weren't really happy in that 110 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: environment and really what they wanted to do was be 111 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: a skater or a surfer, or carguy or make candles 112 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: or whatever it was. And somehow there was a spark 113 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: of motivation through the Ted talk that I did. That 114 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 3: It was kind of like, oh, I should follow my passion, 115 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: follow my gun, and just do what I love to do, 116 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 3: and that's always sort of being my thing. And I 117 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: think you summed it up really well of you know, 118 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: you sort of don't necessarily have to worry about what 119 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: other people think a lot of the time and just 120 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 3: do what makes you happy, what drives you on, what 121 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: motivates you. So that was the story behind the Ted talk, 122 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: So thanks for sharing that. 123 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: I mean, your story will parallel a lot with it. 124 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: You know, I think you know the generation or the 125 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 2: fan base that you inspire, you know, is gravitating towards 126 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: you because probably very similar things of what Magnus represents 127 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: for old people like me. 128 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: I've heard people tell similar stories. You know, you grew 129 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: up as a kid. Everything starts at a young age 130 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: with a toy model, right whatever your car of choice 131 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: may be, Mine just happen to be Porsche. But I've 132 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 3: heard similar stories about people had their poster on the 133 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 3: wall followed their passion, you know, built their first car, 134 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: which might have been handed down from a family member 135 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: or some emotional connection. It's always an emotional connection I 136 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: feel to the car, which brings back what I call 137 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: memorable moments you first drive with your dud, or the 138 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 3: first car you learned to drive in, or the first 139 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: drive with your girlfriend, or whatever it may be. So 140 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: that's kind of a common bond that I think people 141 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: can relate to because it's like, oh, yeah, that was me. 142 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 3: I had a poster on the wall. So I think 143 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 3: that's sort of what attracts people to that Ted talk 144 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: wance a hear and they go back to it is 145 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: you know, it's they relate to. It's a relatable story. 146 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is something I always wanted to ask you, 147 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: and I think probably people in the car community would 148 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: never guess this right. And you used to be a 149 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: cross country runner? 150 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 3: Yeah I did. 151 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: I mean, that's no joke to be a competitive cross 152 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 2: country running gil. 153 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean for me, I always describe myself as 154 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: a lone wolf in the sense of cross country running 155 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: as an individual sport. I was a middle distance run 156 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: across country runner, and ironically it started at a very 157 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: young age and it was back to passion. It was 158 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: something I enjoyed doing, and it was something I was 159 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: actually good at doing, and it was an activity that 160 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: didn't you don't need any any You don't need anything, 161 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: just a pair of running shoes and shorts and you 162 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: go do it. You don't have to rely on someone 163 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: else in the sense of a team. So I started 164 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: running at an early age and I talked about this 165 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: pivotal point for me that happened when I was eleven 166 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: years old. This was nineteen seventy eight and I'd been 167 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: running competitively and doing pretty well and ended up being 168 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: North England schoolboy champion and it was something I was 169 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: passionate about and motivated me. And at the time one 170 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: of my heroes was this athlete called Sebastian Co who 171 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: actually ran for this club that I ran for, called 172 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: the hallm Shah Harris. He was probably five six years 173 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: older and he wrote this, I got a CERTIFICATET, I 174 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: finished third and norlyput was well done, zep Co And 175 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: I still have this thing because he was an idol 176 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: of mine that I looked up to. I'd posted him 177 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: on the wall and it just goes to show one 178 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: word of encouragement, well two words, well done. I'm still 179 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: talking about it forty odd years later. Forty five years later, 180 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: and Sebastian Coe went on to be an Olympic champion 181 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: in the eight hundred and fifteen hundred meter discipline and 182 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: went on to be a world record holder in nineteen 183 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: eighty nineteen eighty four, the la Olympic Games in nineteen 184 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: eighty four. So it was a significant thing for me 185 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: that became what I call a teachable element where a 186 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: little bit of confidence building doesn't really take a lot 187 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: of effort. When when people come up to me and say, 188 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: you know, they've watched my story, watch the film being 189 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: motivated by me, I always take time to sort of 190 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 3: give back because I always revert myself back to Sebastian 191 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: go signing the certificate, saying well done. So it's one 192 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: of those teachable elements that came through being a middle 193 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: distance runner, across country runner and looking back on my 194 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 3: life going back forty five years, I realized now which 195 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: I didn't realize at the time, that that discipline of 196 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: running twice a day, five days a week, setting goals, 197 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 3: being motivated to achieve those goals, having a little bit 198 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: of success at an early age sort of set me 199 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: up for later on in life, you know, to actually 200 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: set a goal, be disciplined, motivated, work towards that, but 201 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: put the effort in. You know, you don't necessarily need 202 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: the experience or the talent that sort of helps, but 203 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 3: that develops and matures over time. You know, whatever it 204 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 3: is you want to do in life, I believe if 205 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: you put the energy in and put the effort in, 206 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: and be dedicated and don't give up, a lot of 207 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: people have great ideas, but they probably don't execute him 208 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: because they've run it by a friend. Thinking about doing 209 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: this thing, what do you think? The friend may be 210 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: negative and say I don't. I think that's a good 211 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: idea that'll never work type of scenario. So a lot 212 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 3: of people don't cross the start line. It's like you, 213 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: you know what the story you just told? You know, 214 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: so a lot of people sort of back away from, oh, 215 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: the fear of failure. So I think for me having 216 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 3: that discipline as a young kid and then as a 217 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 3: nineteen year old, I worked on a summer camp with 218 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: inner city underprivileged kids north of Detroit and took a 219 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: Trailways bus from Detroit to La and arrived in LA. 220 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: This part of the story is pretty funny because I 221 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 3: came with this dream. I grew up watching a lot 222 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 3: of American TV, listening to American music. I was influenced 223 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: by American culture, so arriving in Hollywood it was weirdly 224 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: anti climatic because the Hollywood I had seen on TV 225 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: in the eighties. When I arrived at Union Station on 226 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: a Tuesday morning at four am in the morning, I'm like, 227 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: we're all the movie stars, We're all the rock stars, 228 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: you know. Then I arrived to Hollywood and that was 229 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 3: a really sort of wake up call on Hollywood Boulevard 230 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: in the mid eighties. But I clicked with it and 231 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: resonated with it, and every time I go past that YMCA, 232 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: it's kind of a grounding thing for me because that 233 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: was ground based zero when I arrived here, not knowing anyone. 234 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: And I'm still here whatever it is thirty eight years later, 235 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: and La is home to me. And I spent nineteen 236 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: years in Sheffield, England, but all my adult life has 237 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: been LA. Like I never had a driver's licen in England, 238 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: never owned a car in England, never had my own apartment, 239 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: never had a real job. I was just sort of 240 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 3: bumming around and so La was the land of opportunity. 241 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: It was everything I was into at the time. It 242 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: still is. It's still an inspiring place for me. La. 243 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: I get inspiration just walking around Hollywood. So ironically, Hannah 244 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 3: and I bought a house up the road less than 245 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: a mile up the road from here, in near the 246 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: Hollywood Bowl. It's one hundred year old Spanish house that 247 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 3: we're restoring. You know, I never lived in Hollywood. I'd 248 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 3: lived in Venice and downtown for thirty years, but i'd 249 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 3: go to Hollywood. But now living here, I'm walking around 250 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 3: all these places that bring back these memories of when 251 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: I first arrived, and it's kind of an inspiring thing. 252 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: Wow, you still have your offed in downtown. 253 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, the way I talk about that, you're not getting 254 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: rid of it, are you? 255 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: Institution though? 256 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, this will be the twenty fourth year I've owned 257 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: that building. I've been downtown in the Arts District since 258 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety four. So in two thousand, I bought a 259 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 3: twenty six thousand square foot building that was constructed in 260 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 3: nineteen oh two. So that was where I ran my 261 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: clothing company. I lived in the loft. I accidentally fell 262 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: into the film location business twenty years ago by renting 263 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 3: that space out for everything like commercial filming, TV shows, 264 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: music videos, reality shows and along the way sort of, 265 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: how's my Porsche collection? 266 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, my dream is a warehouse similar to what you 267 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: have a high level goal one day. 268 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: Well, you're going to make the dream come true? You know, 269 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: baby steps and take that leap of. 270 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: Face, I said, keep working out it. 271 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to keep doing that. 272 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: Have you always been a very motivated person? 273 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 274 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 3: I think so. You know. I described myself as street 275 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 3: smart and I left school with two old levels at fifteen, 276 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 3: went on the doll But yeah, I think when I 277 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 3: arrived in la I had to be motivated because I 278 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 3: didn't know anyone and I didn't want to go back home. 279 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 3: For me, failure would be returning to Sheffield, the city 280 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 3: I came from. Not that it's a bad place, but 281 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: everything sort of i'd grown up aspiring to be around 282 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 3: was literally here in la I have no education, and 283 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 3: essentially the clothing, property development and messing around with cars 284 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 3: wasn't like I went to school to learn any of that, 285 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: but I had an interest in it and a passion 286 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 3: and La is one of those places where opportunity just 287 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: sort of comes weirdly. You know. People say, you know, oh, 288 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 3: you get lucky. I say, you make your own luck 289 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 3: by being put yourself in the right place at the 290 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: right time. But when someone offers you that opportunity that 291 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: may be scary to host a podcast, for example, Right, 292 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: sure do it? How bad can it be? Right? 293 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: I was asking myself like, and that's so I went 294 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: into this rabbit hole of like, why is Magnus magnus? Yeah? 295 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: I used this phrase like the light behind his eyes, 296 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: like the headlights are always on high beam where you know, 297 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: I catch myself the lights start to dim after a 298 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: while for whatever factors, right, And I catch myself like, hey, hey, 299 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: it'll be careful. You better go get a jolt, you know, 300 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: get a jump somewhere. And I use running in my 301 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: daily life when things are really down and I feel 302 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: like unmotivated or I feel like, you know, I feel 303 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: like I'm making myself a victim to life, and like, 304 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: you know, especially in our business of Hollywood, it's it's 305 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: a business of no's, Like you're never good enough, right, 306 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: so it's ninety nine point nine percent no, and you're 307 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: waiting for that point one thing. And so I started 308 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: adopting running because. 309 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: You like running. 310 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: I like it now as I'm older, because before because 311 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: I was so competitive because I was younger, I was like, 312 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna run a marathon, and then I lose. I'm 313 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: not gonna win, right, and all these people are passing 314 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: men finishing. 315 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 316 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: And then now I now, I like, I have these 317 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: four hills that I run daily, like as soon as 318 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: I wake up up, like I go. I appreciate at 319 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: age fifty one that first of all, that I'm still 320 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: able to do it. Yeah, And I get up there 321 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: and I've learned, you know, gratitude which I never had, right, 322 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: and the I then the concept of even prayer. Right 323 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: Like in my travels, I've gotten to meet very spiritual people. 324 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: And I was in Kyoto, Japan, which is like one 325 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: of the most spiritual places in Asia and especially Japan. 326 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: And this car guy Mirasan, who you know is Rocket Bunny. 327 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if you know Rocket Bunny. They make 328 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: body kids everytime I go to visit him. We never 329 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: do anything car related. He takes me straight to the 330 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: temples and he's like, and I feel like I have 331 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: to take you here. And I'm like to do what 332 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: It's like, it's a place where I give things that 333 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: I'm healthy enough to like come here that I get 334 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: to pursue this beautiful life of like making cars, I 335 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: get to meet friends like you, I get to have kids, 336 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: I have a wonderful wife and the full sun. So 337 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: I just give thanks and this is where I come 338 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: and I do this every day. And he's like, song, 339 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: do you have a place back in LA And I 340 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: go no. He goes, well, maybe you need to find Yeah, 341 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: So on this run, like I found this place which 342 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: there's a little bench somebody made, and I just go 343 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: there and I pray and I go thank you for 344 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: my wife, my life, thank you for this beautiful dog 345 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: and the other dog, thank you for this health. And 346 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: then I go thank you for today I get to 347 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: do a podcast with a couple of friends, and then 348 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: I go on my way. Second stage is harder, long, 349 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: long journey right up this mountain. Third stage is even 350 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: lonelier and colder. But then the fourth stage is back 351 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: down the mountain going home. And I'm like, wow, it's 352 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: not so bad, right, And I use that as like 353 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: a daily, like you know, kind of discipline to go Hey, 354 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: keep that keep that light behind your eyes, like positive. 355 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: And when I found out that you were a you know, 356 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: distance runner or a mid distance runner, I was like, 357 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: that's the foundation of how you're able to keep the 358 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: headlights right in life, right, you know? 359 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think, So how many miles a day do 360 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: you run? 361 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 2: I think it's like a five mile cour I used 362 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: to track everything and then that would get in the way. Yeah, 363 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: like I go, I didn't do twelve today, right, I 364 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: didn't do eighteen today. There was a time where I 365 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 2: was running like twenty two miles. Wow, I called the 366 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 2: forest gumping. 367 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: Yep, running. I no longer run. I haven't run in 368 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 3: a long time. But I think once you get to 369 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: some point in life, priorities shift, things change, Things that 370 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: were important before are not quite as important at some point, 371 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: you know. And he starts sort of thinking along the 372 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: lines of what you were talking about, you know, things 373 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: to keep me grounded but also motivated, keeping the light on, 374 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: the passion burning bright. You know my thing, you know, 375 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: it's twenty twenty four eyes, so these New Year's resolution, 376 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: and you know my thing is to continue doing what 377 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: I call cool shit with cool people, but collaborate and 378 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: create more with other people as opposed to being this 379 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: sort of lone wolf where you know, I'm a one 380 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 3: man of army doing stuff on myself because it is 381 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 3: hard to say motivated and actually, you know, continue to 382 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 3: create things that you're proud of all the time. You know, 383 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 3: I think life goes in this circle of highs and 384 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 3: lows and you know, peaks and plateaus, and you reach 385 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 3: a certain level and then sidestep, maybe take a different 386 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 3: turn and see where that road goes. 387 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: Are you one hundred percent committed to drag racing? 388 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: Whenever I do something, I'm doing giving it one hundred 389 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: and ten percent. I really don't have ass things that 390 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: I do. That's why I never went or I haven't 391 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: gone into a competitive racing series because of I cannot 392 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: take on responsibility of racing and then book a role 393 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: and know that I have to let down sponsors or 394 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: I can't or all lose points because I can't race 395 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: because then I'm not giving up one hundred and ten percent. 396 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: I feel like everything I do, I have to give everything. 397 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can relate that completely. Kind of like I 398 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: used to do a lot of track days from two 399 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: thousand and two to two thousand and eight, and I 400 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: went through the program where you turn up with a 401 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 3: street car, you do some time trialing, then you go 402 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: next level, you get club race license. You're doing some 403 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: wil to wheel. But I'm still doing it in two 404 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: seven seven streetable track car, not a fully caged dedicated 405 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: race car, because I like the idea of driving it 406 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: to the track and back. And so you go down 407 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 3: this slippery slope, I think you can probably relate to 408 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 3: it right where you just get in it. You get 409 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 3: motivated the time, the energy of the dedication, your craft 410 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 3: gets better, you become a better driver. I started instructing, 411 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: but then they became a point where the more competitive 412 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 3: it became, you know, these three day events become all 413 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: consuming prep in the car. You got to travel it 414 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: five day event. And for me, the more competitive it became, 415 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 3: the less fun it became. And I said to myself, 416 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 3: I'm kind of done with this because I'm no longer 417 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: one hundred percent committed to doing this. And I realized, 418 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: if you're not one hundred percent committed to being on 419 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: the track, you don't go on the track, because that's 420 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: when stuff goes wrong. When you're not one hundred percent 421 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 3: committed or at least from my point of view, is 422 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 3: like there's a shadow of doubt. Second guess, in yourself. 423 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 3: I was no longer a competitive I. 424 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: Wonder if that notion of that being one hundred percent 425 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: committed to something. I wonder if you can apply that 426 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: to anything you want to be successful? 427 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: Enough? Oh, I think everything everything in life. 428 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 3: First of all, you've got to believe in yourself and 429 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 3: have confidence that you're going to be able to achieve 430 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: this goal that you've set, whatever it may be running 431 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 3: up the hill faster, going around a track faster, or whatever. 432 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 3: So I think you need that inner self confidence and 433 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: focus where you can block out the external negativity and 434 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 3: noise that might distract you and derailue first of all. 435 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 3: But ultimately, I think whatever it is you're doing, whether 436 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: you're making candles or surfing or whatever, you've got to 437 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 3: be one hundred percent committed to it. Otherwise I don't 438 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 3: think you give your role. And I think that's the 439 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 3: difference right there. 440 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 2: So you're very selective on what you focus your energy on. Yeah, 441 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: were you always like that or did you have to 442 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: learn that? 443 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: No? 444 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't. I wasn't. I was very competitive 445 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: growing up, but I feel like when I was growing up, 446 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to do and try everything to get experience 447 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: and everything. And I think once I solidified with the 448 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: things in my life that I was most passionate about, 449 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: that's when I had that shift happen of Okay, well 450 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: this is it, this is what I'm doing. I'm going 451 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: to give it my all because we get one life 452 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: on this earth. I don't want to become older and 453 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: be like, man, I should have tried a little harder. 454 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so it's okay to lose passion, right. 455 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think generally what happens is, you know, 456 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: you'll find passion elsewhere. Yeah, you know, different opportunity. You know, 457 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 3: I think you've got to be committed to what you're doing, 458 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 3: and you got to prioritize, like if acting's more over priority, 459 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: then drag racing is you follow that path until maybe 460 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 3: acting is not quite as exciting or nurturing, or you're 461 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 3: not getting as much out of it, or or you 462 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 3: just feel like you need a break and you need 463 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: to try something else. Yeah. So you know, for me, 464 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: I never had a plan. You know, people talk about 465 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 3: where do you see yourself in especially at school, where 466 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: do you see yourself in five years, ten years, twenty years. 467 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: I never had that plan, you know, and that sort 468 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 3: of enabled me to really just go with a flow. 469 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: And then you get to a certain point, opportunity comes 470 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: up and you go, yeah, that feels good. It's like 471 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: when we bought the building downtown, the warehouse, like in 472 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 3: two thousand. People thought were crazy at the time for 473 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 3: doing that, but it was the best thing we ever did, 474 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: you know. I was able to house the cars, got 475 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: into the film location business, ran a clothing company, and 476 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 3: then the neighborhood came up around and now the arts 477 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: district is kind of like the new Culver City, the 478 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: new Venice. 479 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: It is so expensive. I was looking for shop space 480 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: over there and oh my gosh. 481 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't like that twenty twenty five years ago. 482 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 3: But I took a leap of faith, bought this building, 483 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 3: restored this building, and everything that I've been talking about 484 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 3: since I walked through that door sort of happened through 485 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 3: that building. And I have to sort of be grounded 486 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 3: in an environment that I feel comfortable in that it's creative. Sometimes, 487 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 3: you know, I'll go to car collections and people who've 488 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 3: got fancy, great stuff, but I look at where it 489 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: is and it's in some concrete tilt up and it's 490 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 3: just a generic space. 491 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: And to me, you know, lack of character. 492 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: Yeah that's all. Yeah, the sole character, Betina. You know, 493 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: it all needs to be housed in this environment that 494 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: reflects my personality. Like someone's got great, flashy cars that 495 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 3: they don't drive in a clinical industrial building. I go, 496 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 3: this just doesn't I'm not interested in that. Like when 497 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 3: people want to show me cars that I have no 498 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 3: miles on it and they're proud of it because you know, 499 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 3: they don't drive it, I go, well, it's kind of 500 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: built to be driven, right, I'm more interested in showing 501 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: me the car with a million miles on it, because 502 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: that's got the stories and the memorable moments and the history, 503 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 3: and that's just more interesting to me. 504 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: Because you left fashion, I mean that was a passion 505 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: of yours because yeah, yeah, right, And then I mean, 506 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: how were you able to leave that, like because there 507 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: was such a big, pretty person. 508 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I started selling second nd clothing on the 509 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: boardwalk in Venice in the late eighties. You know, I'd 510 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: go to yard sales by Levi's for like fifty cents, 511 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 3: cut up some shirts, so some patches on it. It 512 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 3: was a creative outlet for me, you know, And it 513 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 3: was I was coming at it from this rock and 514 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 3: roll I guess, pseudo hippie thing. And then late eighties 515 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: early nineties the rave scene took off and everyone was 516 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 3: into sort of flower power and whimsical floppy hats and 517 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: it was just a whole movement, and that led into 518 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 3: developing this clothing company called Serious. Like I said, it 519 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 3: was a rock and roll brand that I was passionate about. 520 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 3: It was just I didn't my mama taught me how 521 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 3: to sew, because at the time, I tried to make 522 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: my jeans as tired as possible and sew patches on 523 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: my den and jacket so I could sew. So that 524 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 3: was kind of a little skill set that I had, 525 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: and it was just kind of easy to get into. 526 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: And I realized back to like the running thing, once 527 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: I had a little bit of success by making something 528 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: that people actually appreciated and bought and generated some income, 529 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 3: so I was financially stable on my own. It was 530 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: baby steps, but it was the same connection as the running. 531 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 3: I talk about this a little bit sometimes. The three 532 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: things that I've done in the past forty years with 533 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 3: no education. And I mentioned it earlier was the clothing 534 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: property development cause the common bond thread was I was 535 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 3: passionate about so the clothing company. I just liked what 536 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: we were making. Other people liked it. It got into 537 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 3: this rock and roll lifestyle, you know, opened up a 538 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 3: lot of opportunities to work with bands, got some magazine coverage, 539 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: and this all happened sort of, you know, way before 540 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: the Internet. This was eighties and nineties. You know, there 541 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 3: was no thing as Instagram and Facebook and social media, 542 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 3: and in a way, it was sort of easier when 543 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 3: I look back then, you know, you weren't wasting time 544 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 3: checking your phone and do people like this? Not like it? 545 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 3: Didn't like I liked it, We sold it, Other people 546 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: liked it, bands wore it. Move on, just always evolving, 547 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 3: not second guessing, not worrying about what other people think. 548 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 3: So to answer your question, I closed Serious down in 549 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: twenty eleven, and probably two three years before. I was 550 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 3: now in my early forties, so I wasn't going out 551 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: as much to clubs. I didn't really have to dress up, 552 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 3: and you know, sort of I just lost interest in it. 553 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 3: I'd lost passion for it. You know it had become 554 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 3: sort of didn't interest me, didn't motivate me, and the 555 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: last couple of years of doing it was sort of 556 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: treading water. Sales were dwindling, but all of our friends 557 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 3: worked for the company, and we just sort of gave 558 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: them like six months notice of Hey, we're going to 559 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: close this thing down. We didn't sell it, you know, 560 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,239 Speaker 3: we just sort of ended it. We just shipped all 561 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 3: our orders and said, Okay, we're done with that chapter 562 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: of the life. And thankfully the film location business was 563 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 3: successful enough that it was paying the mortgage on the building, 564 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 3: and I didn't know what was going to come next. 565 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 3: But I like to say the clothing company took a 566 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 3: lot of time and energy to continually be on top 567 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 3: of it because we might be designed and manufacture it. It 568 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 3: wasn't like we just bought t shirts and did its 569 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 3: green prints. We actually did the whole thing. So it 570 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 3: was a full time operation. And when I closed that down, 571 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: I had a lot of time and didn't know what 572 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 3: was coming next. Back to this, I hadn't planned for 573 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: life after running a clothing company, But what happened within 574 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 3: six months was Timer Moscovich's short documentary Urban Outlaw that 575 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: put me on the map, and then the next sort 576 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 3: of ten twelve years from twenty twelve that film came 577 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 3: out October fifteenth, twenty twelve. I got invited all around 578 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: the world to go to events and travel and car 579 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 3: related stuff. And the point to my rambling here is 580 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: if I was still running the clothing company, managing a 581 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: business with employees, I would never have had the time 582 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 3: to take advantage of these opportunities of travel, meet people 583 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 3: like Bob Ing and go to Japan, hang out with 584 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: the Kayas out all this cool stuff. You know, I 585 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 3: ended up in need for speed video game and various 586 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 3: other things that just became my focus. But I hadn't 587 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 3: planned it, but indirectly I'd closed the door of the 588 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 3: clothing company that was a sixty hour a week, all 589 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 3: consuming gig. And then when people started inviting me places 590 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 3: to do things I was passionate about, nothing was holding 591 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 3: me back. I had a passport, and you know, you 592 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: could say to me today, do you want to go 593 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 3: somewhere on Friday? I'd be like, sure, I'll go. So 594 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 3: sometimes you got to take this leap of faith and 595 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 3: not be so hemmed into this is where I need 596 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: to be at this certain time with this rigid sort 597 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 3: of sometimes restrictions on can't do this, can't do that. 598 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: So that was the ultimate freedom, being able to do 599 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: whatever you wanted to do, when you wanted to do it, 600 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: when the opportunity arose in that sort of environment. So 601 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: closing down serious clothing wasn't a hard decision. It was 602 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: kind of like when we did it, were like, we 603 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: should have done this two years before, But in reality, 604 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 3: if we've done it two years before, urban outlaw wasn't out. 605 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: So well, everything happens for a reason, and time is 606 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: the reason. Not everything happens at once, and. 607 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: You've got to be patient and just let things evolve sometimes. 608 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's true to that you need 609 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: to create space in your life to allow new things 610 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: to come in. 611 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, very much. 612 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: I've always wanted to ask you this question, especially these days, 613 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: and if you're uncomfortable with with it, we can actually 614 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: cut this. 615 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 3: Out, go for it. 616 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: Karen was your first wife, right. 617 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 3: Well, actually she was. I was married before she was 618 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: my second wife. I'd been with Karen for twenty one years. 619 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: And that's who you started the business with, and you 620 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: had a wonderful life with her. She has passed away, right, 621 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 2: So my question is a personal question because you know, 622 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: my father, my stepfather, as of late, he's very unhealthy, right, 623 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: and I guess, you know, everyone's preparing for him to 624 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: leave us, right, And I do feel like it's gonna 625 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: rock me and my sister. And there's a lot of 626 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: like regrets that I have that I'm trying to like 627 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: sort out in my personal life with him, you know, 628 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: because it wasn't always rosy with him. For someone who's 629 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 2: gone through this loss of someone that is you know, 630 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: important to you, Like how do you not let those 631 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,719 Speaker 2: things dim your light? Magnus because we're talking about all 632 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: like everything is very inspirational here, like it's and to 633 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: the listener it could sound like, oh everything was so 634 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: nice man, right, but the room I have to realize 635 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: you're a human and it's not always nice right now. 636 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Karen passed away in twenty fifteen, and 637 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: I met her in nineteen ninety four, so we've been 638 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 3: together twenty one years and we built this thing together, 639 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: the clothing company, and bought the building. And Karen's passing 640 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 3: was a real shock. That didn't see it coming. It 641 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: wasn't expected, it wasn't expected, you know, it was. It 642 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 3: was a terrible loss, and you know, I had no 643 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: time to plan for the inevitable. Like my father passed 644 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 3: away in twenty twelve, and I sort of had a 645 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: turbulent relationship with my father. Because this will be a 646 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 3: long answer to your question, but I think there'll be 647 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 3: some relevance to it. You talk to Ryon about me 648 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: being a cross country running a middle distance run, and 649 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 3: I talked at some detail about having a certain amount 650 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 3: of early success at that and my father was there 651 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: with me through that. And once I hit the age 652 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 3: of like fourteen, in England, you can go to the pub, 653 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 3: start drinking. I was going to rock and roll shows. 654 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 3: I just stopped running. And it really hurt my dad. 655 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 3: But being from England and northern and in this eighties period, 656 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 3: he couldn't communicate, you know. And it was like I 657 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 3: talked about SEBC riding well done. I didn't talk about 658 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 3: my dad patter me on the back and saying well done, 659 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 3: because he never did it. Yeah, So you know, I 660 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 3: think it's usual for guys to have turbulent relationships with 661 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 3: the father, and that was my setup with my father. 662 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: You know, he'd say cut your and get a real job. Well, 663 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 3: I've probably hinted I've had long hair for forty five years, 664 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 3: and I've never had a real job. I've never worked 665 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 3: for anyone else. So my dad and I buttered heads, 666 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: and when I came to America as a nineteen year old, 667 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: the goal was never to go back to England because 668 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 3: I didn't want to go back to that environment and 669 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 3: that represented failure for me. So when I met Karen 670 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: in ninety four, you know, and we sort of formed 671 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: together and grew together, and we were together all the time. 672 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 3: When she passed out of the blue. There'd been some issues, 673 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 3: but it wasn't looking like someone has a terminal disease. 674 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 3: Like my father was diagnosed with cancer in twenty ten 675 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 3: and passed away in twenty twelve. But he wasn't active, 676 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: you know, sort of let life slip him by, kind 677 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 3: of the I think that was what part of what 678 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 3: motivated me to never give up was I'd seen my 679 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 3: father give up at an early age and it didn't 680 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 3: look good and he didn't really have any goals. You know, 681 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 3: he could have achieved stuff, but he wasn't one hundred 682 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 3: percent committed and didn't put the energy in. So when 683 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 3: my father passed away. It was sad, but I didn't 684 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 3: have this great relationship with him. When Karen passed away, 685 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 3: it was it was the end of the world, and 686 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 3: I thought my life was over and that part of 687 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 3: my life was over. And then eighteen months later, when 688 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 3: I turned fifty, I met Hannah and that was the 689 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 3: beginning of a second leaf on life, a second opportunity, 690 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 3: a second chapter in my story. Turning fifty was kind 691 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 3: of a big deal because people say it's just a number, 692 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 3: but yeah, health became a thing, mental health and physical health. 693 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 3: He can go running and you know, ironically, within six 694 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 3: months of Karen passing away, one day, I was on 695 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 3: the Sixth Street bridge. They closed it down and I 696 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 3: hopped The bridge was dark, they were just about to 697 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 3: tear it down, and I hopped over the wall and 698 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 3: I hadn't anticipated the rise of the incline. When I 699 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: dropped on the other side, it was like a ten 700 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 3: foot drop, and I felt like, oh, that didn't line well, 701 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 3: I shouldn't have done that. Long story short kind of 702 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 3: went undiagnosed. I'm walking around traveling. Four months later, I 703 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 3: can't walk and excruciating pain. I find out I had 704 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 3: stress fracture cracks on both of my tibbers essentially broke 705 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 3: both my legs, but I was still walking. But that 706 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 3: put me in a wheelchair for two months, and I 707 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 3: think in a way it was it was something out 708 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 3: of my control that forced me to slow down and 709 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 3: stop because I hadn't stopped. Once she passed, I just 710 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 3: sort of shifted gears and went in another direction. So 711 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 3: I don't really know if there's an answer here other 712 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 3: than you find a way to deal with situations and 713 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 3: adapt to that environment, whether you plan it or like 714 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 3: me being in a wheelchair for two months. It's a 715 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,959 Speaker 3: tough thing and everyone deals with in a different way, 716 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 3: and I don't feel there's any right and wrong way 717 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 3: to deal with it. 718 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a great answer question. And 719 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 2: the way I'm interpreting it is like it's not going 720 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: to be a I'll send a new paint job on 721 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 2: the carts. Can they be part of your patina? 722 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 723 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: And you just got to accept it. 724 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: And it's sitting here and trying not to tear up. 725 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 2: It's sad, you know, and it's not going to be easy, 726 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: but life goes on and you just got to sort 727 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 2: of keep moving forward. 728 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, can I add to that conversation. I know we've 729 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: talked about in the past. Death is so hard and 730 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: it breaks my heart to hear everything that you went through. 731 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: Obviously it's no secret about my life all the shit 732 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: that I've gone through, But I will say, you don't 733 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: want to live with any regret, and I think if 734 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: you're questioning it, it might be worthwhile to at least 735 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: have the conversation, you know, question. 736 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 2: I do feel like I'm going to where I am 737 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: currently today. If my dad passed away, I would have 738 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: tons of regret. But yeah, similar to you, like, you know, 739 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: he's old school dude, and we just it's like we 740 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 2: have so many things to go over. But it's kind 741 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 2: of irony of life is that he's passing away because 742 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 2: of dementia and he doesn't even remember. So it's kind 743 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 2: of like I start laughing. Remember, this is like I 744 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: don't remember, I don't even know who you are. 745 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 3: You know, I just started laughing for you. Even though 746 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 3: he's not going to remember. You got to get it out, 747 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, because he's not going to remember it, 748 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,439 Speaker 3: but you're letting it go whilst he's still here. 749 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: And second off that after my dad passed. Someone told 750 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: me something because they hadn't lost their father as well. 751 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: He was almost a decade prior, and he said to 752 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: me not a single day had gone by that he 753 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: hadn't thought of his dad, And that hit a chord. 754 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: So I was like, oh shit, because I mean, I'm 755 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: going to live the rest of my life thinking about 756 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: the fact that my dad's died at least once every 757 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: single day. And truth is, yeah, I think at least 758 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: once a day for my entire life, I've thought of him. 759 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: And I share that because that's the regret, I think, 760 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: because if you do find yourself thinking about it, at 761 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: least in mind sense, that's mine. Everyone everyone's going to 762 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: go through their own thing. You don't want to have 763 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: those thoughts of should I have just had the. 764 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 3: Even if he's not relating to it, you're expressing your 765 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 3: emotions and letting it out. Whether he receives it or 766 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 3: not kind of irrelevant, I think, because you're going to 767 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 3: let it go. Yeah, it sounds like he's not going 768 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 3: to be able to absorb it through the dementia, but 769 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 3: I think you'll feel lighter that you said whatever it 770 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 3: is you got to say. 771 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's one of those like mountains 772 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 2: that I look up and I go, I got to 773 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 2: run that. 774 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: But you're doing it every day baby steps. 775 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's the thing that I do feel like 776 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 2: at fifty one today, like if I don't resolve this, 777 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 2: this is something that will carry with me for the 778 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 2: rest of my life. 779 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 3: That's a lot of weight. 780 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: You said it yourself. Your run is in four stages. Yeah, first, yeah. 781 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 2: Many times you know the answer, huh, you just gotta 782 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 2: you know. The good thing is that, you know, my 783 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 2: manager I was like talking to him like last week 784 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 2: and he goes, you know, it's interesting because like you're 785 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 2: so Asian and I was like, what that's like is 786 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 2: that racist thing? And he's like, no, because you hold 787 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 2: everything in, like you don't you know, the squeaky wheel 788 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 2: gets the oil. He's like, it's it's like I'm not 789 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 2: saying complaining. He's like, you gotta actually talk like you 790 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 2: just hold everything in. It's like you just try to 791 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,959 Speaker 2: take care of everything and then we don't know what's 792 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 2: what you're going through. 793 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 3: That's kind of a lot the British thing as well. 794 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 3: Keep calm, carry on, you know, we don't let it out. 795 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 2: You know, but it's not always healthy. 796 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 3: I guess, no, this is what I'm learning. 797 00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's something that I'm realizing. I at least I'm 798 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: willing to talk about it because then, you know, you know, 799 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 2: your point of reference is that he gives me courage. Like, yeah, 800 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: you're right, you know, it's like it's not something I 801 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 2: should avoid. 802 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: You know, well if the conversation goes bad, doesn't sound 803 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: like he might remember it. Sorry, it's funny. 804 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 2: Laugh at I was like, I was like, because I 805 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 2: used to carry it like it was like this bag 806 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 2: of rocks, like of anger. I was like, and one 807 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 2: day I'm gonna sit down with you and I'm just 808 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 2: gonna like throw the rocks at you. And then I 809 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 2: was like, he ain't remember I'm talking about I just 810 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 2: started laughing. I was like, this is you can't make 811 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 2: this stuff up, no script, right. 812 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 3: This is not an act. This is like the real 813 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 3: emotion coming out. I got one more store. That's gonna 814 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 3: time real briefly because Okay, with my dad, I remember 815 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 3: the last real time I spent with him. It was 816 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 3: probably the last time he came out to l I said, 817 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 3: two thousand nine, twenty ten, and we went on this 818 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 3: my cap adventure to go check some you know, bonfind 819 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 3: porsches that we'd seen on craigslist. You know, it became 820 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 3: this all day journey. I remember drove in my Irish 821 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 3: Green sixty sixth nine to eleven, and we drove somewhere 822 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 3: out to the Inland Empire to look at something and 823 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 3: it wasn't quite what it was supposed to be. And 824 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 3: then the guy goes, no, my body out near California City. 825 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 3: He's got like a bunch of cars in his backyard. 826 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 3: So we headed on this other journey. By the time 827 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 3: we got back home, we only thought we were going 828 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,439 Speaker 3: for two hours. It'd been like an eight hour day. 829 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 3: We'd driven like three hundred miles. We'd looked at a 830 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 3: pile of crap cars that weren't worth five hundred bucks. 831 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 3: We didn't buy anything, but we kind of had like 832 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 3: this breakthrough moment of I never spent eight hours in 833 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 3: a car with my dad when I was driving, when 834 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 3: he wasn't shouting at my mom for giving him the 835 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 3: wrong directions or whatever it was, and it just sort 836 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 3: of became this full circle moment of I guess we 837 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 3: both realized at that point, without saying sorry, that we'd 838 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 3: sort of resolved whatever issues, resent and anger whatever. You know, 839 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I never cut my hair, I never 840 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 3: got a real job. But we're doing okay here, right, 841 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 3: So Vegas, haf One, you. 842 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 2: Were there, Thank you. 843 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 1: I was there. 844 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 2: Thank you. 845 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 3: What's your take on Vegas? Seemed like pretty good to me? 846 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 1: I thought it was great. I really had a great time. 847 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: I found obviously different from other races that I've been to, 848 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: because it felt like wherever you bought your tickets you 849 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: were kind of gridlocked. You couldn't walk the track or 850 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: go explore. But I had a great time. I thought 851 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: it was fun. I thought they put up a great event. 852 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 3: It was well organized, I'll say that. Yeah, yeah, I 853 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 3: mean we were there. You know, I think everyone sort 854 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 3: of thought it was going to be a shit show 855 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 3: and it wasn't. 856 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: Well. Everyone was like premptively like talking shit, prepared for 857 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: it to be. 858 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 3: But you know, they made a couple of mistakes, but 859 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 3: that was first time out. 860 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you got to you gotta fail somehow to learn, right. 861 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I mean I thought the event was great. 862 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 3: It looked spectacular, and I say it was a win 863 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 3: win all around Vegas. 864 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 2: That's way you can't believe anything you read on there. 865 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I said, See all these terrible things. 866 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, I'm here right now. It's not like 867 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,280 Speaker 1: that exactly. 868 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 2: That's all because it was only negative like feedback. And 869 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 2: then when I talked to you and talk to you 870 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 2: and anybody went through, it was great. Vegas is curreat 871 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 2: it's the hospitality town. 872 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 3: It was really really cool. 873 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 2: Huh. 874 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 3: What are you guys looking forward to this year when 875 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 3: it comes to car related stuff? You got a King 876 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 3: of Hammers and events like that there. 877 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: Now, I'll be going to Tokyotoslan. 878 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 3: Okay. 879 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 2: Have you been to Auto Salon? 880 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 3: No, I've never been. I've been to Tokyo, but no, 881 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 3: I'd love to go there. Hannah and I are off 882 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 3: to a retromobile in Paris, cowing up. We've gone there before. 883 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 3: We're going to go to Amelia Island. Have you ever 884 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 3: gone there? The concoct Yeah. Yeah. So ironically this is 885 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 3: I've been invited back to be a judge, which is 886 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 3: kind of ironic. It's a third time, and I'm the 887 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 3: guy that's always sort of saying, you know, I'm anti 888 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 3: car show. It's my pet peeve of people with white 889 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 3: gloves and Q tips, judging your car and telling you 890 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 3: what's right and wrong about it. But two years ago 891 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 3: I got invited to be a judge there and it 892 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 3: was great because I met Peter Brock, He's a legend, 893 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 3: John Oates legend, ended up becoming friends with John O's. 894 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 3: He came down the ware house. 895 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 2: He's a big Porscha guy. 896 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super cool, down the earth, talented guy. So 897 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 3: that that was a great example of something that I'd 898 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 3: sort of turned my nose up a little bit. I 899 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 3: guess it's all about evolving and brought like collaborating with 900 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 3: other people and you never know, you know what opportunities. 901 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 3: You know, that door opens, Like meeting John Oates and 902 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 3: Peter brook was a great opportunity. And yeah, that's what 903 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 3: brings pure motor heads, geareds, whatever you want to call them, 904 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 3: call people together. Is the joy of this, this this thing, right, 905 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 3: you know this, you know it's an appliance, right, But 906 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 3: it's more than that. You know, it takes you on 907 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 3: this journey. It's more than something that communitates you on 908 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 3: a journey. For me to be it opens up the 909 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 3: world to sharing stories like we're doing here. 910 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 2: It's hard to articulate to people that don't like cars. 911 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 2: Why the connections work right? It's like dog people. It's 912 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 2: like if you have dogs, like instantly like oh okay dog, 913 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 2: and then it's like, hey, what do you do? 914 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 1: Hey? 915 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 2: You know it's that connective tissue. 916 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 3: Causing dougs go together. Yeah, yeah, does he run with you? 917 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 2: He runs on Fridays with me, but he doesn't like Thursdays. 918 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 3: No. 919 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 2: It's like I'm worried. I'm worried that he's as he 920 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 2: gets older, he's going to have some albums. So I 921 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 2: don't want to do this. So on Friday he wants 922 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 2: to come, but you know, I take him for as 923 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 2: soon as I run, either before after I take him 924 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 2: on a long walk. But on Fridays he gets to 925 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 2: actually run with me, and he loves it. I do 926 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 2: want it this year. And someone told me give me advice. 927 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 2: Don't tell people like your plans, right, but this is 928 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 2: a goal that I have. 929 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 3: Sounds to me like you're telling people you want to 930 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 3: do it. Huh. Sounds to me like telling people you 931 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 3: want to do it. 932 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 2: I am going to do. 933 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: What are you going to do? 934 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 2: Ultra ultra which is like sixty and then there's one 935 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 2: hundred and there's two fifty. 936 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 3: It's a long long way. 937 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 2: I'd like to do that. 938 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: I'll be there cheering you on. 939 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 2: You know you won't because it's like it. 940 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 3: That's a lot of finish line, that's a lot of 941 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 3: steps hours. 942 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to challenge like I want to fight, like. 943 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 3: Fight through, go to break through the wall? Is that 944 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 3: what they call it? The wall? And when is that 945 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 3: the eighteen mile marker? 946 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. 947 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,399 Speaker 3: I think it's the wolf. But anyway, get out and run. 948 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but thank you magnus. 949 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: This was Yeah, really appreciate you. 950 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 2: Beautiful coming by, coming on, coming in, Appreciate the opportunity. 951 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me on. 952 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for coming on.