Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast is ready for a week
Speaker 1: of Swifties from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around
Speaker 1: the NFL. I am Dan Hansis. I have heroes here,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, Taylor Swift. Six sold out shows
Speaker 1: at Sofi Stadium right across the sidewalk. It's probably gonna
Speaker 1: get a lot of little messy around here in terms
Speaker 1: of traffic flow. The city of England had never quite
Speaker 1: figured this out, and now they're building an arena up
Speaker 1: the street. Bomber and the Clippers. Anyway, what's up, everybody.
Speaker 2: They're out there already. The Swifties are out there. They're
Speaker 2: buying merch. I wouldn't say they'll come as strong so
Speaker 2: far as as the BTS Army, but they're out there.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 2: Someone suggested to our friend Burgo is young, young single man,
Speaker 2: he should just like go prowl. That would be a
Speaker 2: good place to meet people. You know, teenagers, right, a
Speaker 2: lot of women in their thirty Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's true. She does spend. She is swift. What love
Speaker 1: I love about swift talk. I love monoculture that doesn't
Speaker 1: really exist anymore for the most part. But Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: represents whatever's left of the monoculture. This is Bruce Springsteen
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty five. To have an artist this big,
Speaker 1: this dominant, at the top of her craft creatively and
Speaker 1: also commercially, it's her imperial period and I love it.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the show. And nobody won. The
Speaker 1: nobody won. The raffle connected to us, but we can't
Speaker 1: be a surprised mark after the approval contract.
Speaker 3: Well, I know something there feels very suspicious, and I
Speaker 3: you know, I know that there was an investigation at
Speaker 3: hand about that. I like the Springsteen parallel that you've drawn.
Speaker 3: I drove in today and that you are there already,
Speaker 3: people already lining up for merch like it's very busy.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of foot traffic. But the BTS crowd
Speaker 3: if I'm not if I know you went to the show, Greg,
Speaker 3: but like ill oh, I thought you did. I recall
Speaker 3: them being like it was a young crowd. But that
Speaker 3: wearing like kitty cat ears and dressed up is like
Speaker 3: cats and stuff.
Speaker 2: Am I wrong about that?
Speaker 1: Well, you you're the cat guy. I look at your laptop.
Speaker 2: You tell us there there there were there were some,
Speaker 2: I mean, there was a lot of them, wild like the.
Speaker 4: Costplace stuff going on.
Speaker 3: I think that's that's absent with the tailor Swift incorrect.
Speaker 1: Actually, this is the errors tour and people are going
Speaker 1: to the shows dressed in various different different tailor eras,
Speaker 1: going to see a lot anyway.
Speaker 4: You're going, so you can give us a first hand report.
Speaker 1: Boots on the ground, Taylor Swift, Imperial Period. I got
Speaker 1: some developing news right off the bat. We've got a
Speaker 1: lot to get to. But this is important.
Speaker 2: This you say that right before something that's not important.
Speaker 2: That's the key.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me this isn't important? How long have
Speaker 1: we wondered about Tom Pellisero and the nickname we crafted
Speaker 1: and whether he's aware of it? How long from the
Speaker 1: minute that we crafted it. We don't have a relationship
Speaker 1: with him. Plus there's no way for us to know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I did say hello to him at the content summit.
Speaker 2: You guys weren't there. That hello was about the extent
Speaker 2: of it, and he did not ask about you guys.
Speaker 4: Well that's nice.
Speaker 1: Well, according to some recent developments, he's a fan, maybe
Speaker 1: just shy. This is Colleen Wolf at Steelers Camp. It
Speaker 1: was it was Colleen left Baldy Center and yes, the
Speaker 1: insider Tom Pelsero, Right, Tom.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is news to you because
Speaker 3: you usually bring us the news.
Speaker 4: But the Around the NFL podcast, they have.
Speaker 1: A nickname for you.
Speaker 3: It's called the Pell Raiser, And I just wanted your
Speaker 3: reaction if this is in fact.
Speaker 2: How long has this been going on?
Speaker 1: Wait some time?
Speaker 5: Because I'm a regular viewer of that program, I should
Speaker 5: know that.
Speaker 3: The viewer of the podcast or whatever.
Speaker 1: Around the NFL is.
Speaker 4: I think it's a ten out of ten nicknames.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 4: Okay, good, So we got the stamp of approval?
Speaker 1: Did we that? I don't know we did.
Speaker 3: I mean, also, Baldy's he's got our back. He's a
Speaker 3: friend of the show. He's stirring the pod a little bits.
Speaker 1: I love that man.
Speaker 2: Well, it's good to know he's he's part of our
Speaker 2: growing subscribers on YouTube. He's more of a guy who
Speaker 2: watches us. Clearly he likes He was the one sending
Speaker 2: those emails tweets over the weekends like hey where's the YouTube?
Speaker 2: The whispers It took a couple extra days. Just things
Speaker 2: happen sometimes going up on the YouTube. Pell Razor didn't
Speaker 2: get his around.
Speaker 3: The end I mean Greg over under on how many
Speaker 3: minutes he's watched of our show on YouTube. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: put it at seven minutes, and by mistake if he did,
Speaker 3: by mistake, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2: It's a zero. I would say total. That's total podcasts
Speaker 2: that he's ever listened to, and YouTube's over under. I
Speaker 2: think one minute.
Speaker 3: It was unclear to him that we were a podcast
Speaker 3: to begin So, like you know, I think there's some
Speaker 3: some murky.
Speaker 2: Could he have listened to the Ian rappaport one where
Speaker 2: he was on the hot seat, It would have been possible.
Speaker 2: But even then, I say, now.
Speaker 1: Tom Racer, if you're listening or watching, I believe you.
Speaker 4: No, you don't, I do. Oh, I do too.
Speaker 1: No, it's too late, It's too late, and there will
Speaker 1: be hell to pay, hell to pay. It's this news.
Speaker 5: How many five year olds would it take to tackle
Speaker 5: Derek Cannon? I don't even know if they could, how
Speaker 5: many kids would die in the process, I would imagine.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do I need to give you a numbers Jesus Christ,
Speaker 1: Mike brand.
Speaker 5: Like a legitimate number thirty five? We want to try it,
Speaker 5: test it out. Sure, as long as you're one of
Speaker 5: the five year olds.
Speaker 1: A lot of unpacked there. Mike Rabel, coach of the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, asked, not too far off from the questions
Speaker 1: that drive me crazy with our mail bag, how many
Speaker 1: five year olds would it take to tackle Burly Titans
Speaker 1: star running back Derrick Henry. He mentioned the death of
Speaker 1: children potentially, and then settled on what was the number?
Speaker 2: Thirty thirty five?
Speaker 1: Thirty five.
Speaker 3: I don't he's unaware of the child gangs that are
Speaker 3: that are lurking through Europe and parts of them.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's low. I feel like I'm taking
Speaker 2: the the under he could he could trash thirty easy.
Speaker 1: Well, it's more, there's not gonna be a five year
Speaker 1: old or group of five year olds that bring down
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, but they could trip him up just by
Speaker 1: their bodies being at his feet.
Speaker 3: You're also asking them to, you know, operate in concert,
Speaker 3: which is tough for five year olds, Like they'd have
Speaker 3: to have a real plan. Can they come up with
Speaker 3: that on their own or do they have a coach?
Speaker 2: Well, Henry's got that dog in him, but does the
Speaker 2: dog stay barking when you see like a night You know,
Speaker 2: some kids crying on the floor. It's part of his metal.
Speaker 1: I mean, five year olds are very cute. Also, the
Speaker 1: idea that is he going to.
Speaker 3: That's not the skill, tru That's not the trait that
Speaker 3: we're looking for here. Though, cute doesn't stop Derek.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, well, that's will that stop or slow
Speaker 1: him down at least this idea that do I really
Speaker 1: want to injure these five year olds? Or am I
Speaker 1: going to go into a more of a soft rush
Speaker 1: up the middle? Yeah, you have to plan his on
Speaker 1: his you know, theoretical humanity. The answer is twenty six.
Speaker 1: By the way, are they male or female? It's a collection, Mark,
Speaker 1: don't be exclusionary. I've talked to you off Mike about that,
Speaker 1: and now we have to do it.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm including football doesn't mean they're capting.
Speaker 4: I'm hoping with both genders and many others.
Speaker 1: Let's get to the news, starting with Cooper Cup. Not
Speaker 1: great news for the Rams, who will be without their
Speaker 1: star wide receiver for multiple weeks. It appears, according to
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter, a few weeks Cup could be out with
Speaker 1: the hamstring injury suffered in practice on Tuesday. Cup missed
Speaker 1: a lot of last season with a high ankle sprain.
Speaker 1: Had one of the great seasons in the history of
Speaker 1: the sport, Triple Crown winner in the Super Bowl season
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one, which feels so long ago now.
Speaker 1: But Cup sneaky old at thirty, Greg dealing with some injuries.
Speaker 1: He should be good to go, but.
Speaker 2: Not ideal man, he is sneaky old. He's like been
Speaker 2: in the league barely longer than Lamar, for instance, in
Speaker 2: about four years older than him. He had some injuries
Speaker 2: early in his career. Remember he missed about half his
Speaker 2: second season. He had some games where he was like
Speaker 2: in and out in twenty twenty. It might be one
Speaker 2: of those areas also, right, and it might be one
Speaker 2: of those stories that's that's nothing. But I'm I'm just
Speaker 2: worried because this whole idea that they're spending training camp
Speaker 2: like we're gonna be frisky on offense. The idea is
Speaker 2: they're good on offense, and yet they're number two receiver
Speaker 2: is Van Jefferson, who's done close to not you know,
Speaker 2: very little as a pro, and their number three receivers
Speaker 2: who knows like too too hat well.
Speaker 3: Van Jefferson has battled knee issues this offseason.
Speaker 1: Two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a weird team.
Speaker 3: Like I think there win total sits at about like
Speaker 3: six point five if you wanted to take the over
Speaker 3: under on that, and I kind of think I'm taking
Speaker 3: the under.
Speaker 1: M In other news, let's get back to I was
Speaker 1: trying to think of a name like Hackett Gate or
Speaker 1: Peyton Gate, but how about Hackett job.
Speaker 3: I like that better. I guess let's get off the
Speaker 3: gate thing. Yeah, Hackett job twenty three. We've been tracking
Speaker 3: the story closely.
Speaker 1: Jets offensive coordinator and former Broncos head coach Nathaniel Hackett
Speaker 1: attacked in an interview in USA Today by now Broncos
Speaker 1: coach Sean Payton. We had heard from Sala, we had
Speaker 1: heard from Rogers, Aaron Rodgers. We had heard from other
Speaker 1: Jets players. We had heard from Peyton himself stepping back
Speaker 1: and trying to hide from the controversy. Finally, let's hear
Speaker 1: from Nathaniel Hackett, who spoke to the media on Tuesday.
Speaker 6: I've been involved in this business my whole life, forty
Speaker 6: three years, and as a coach, you know, as a
Speaker 6: coach's kid. You know, we live in a glasshouse. We
Speaker 6: know that we all live in different rooms. We all
Speaker 6: got a key for it, and it's one of those
Speaker 6: things that there's a code, there's a way things are
Speaker 6: done in that house.
Speaker 1: Also commenting on his surprise that this controversy, he thought
Speaker 1: it would pop up at some point, maybe not in
Speaker 1: this form, but it wouldn't be for a few more weeks.
Speaker 6: It's unfortunate that that had to happen, that the comments
Speaker 6: that were made, but hey, they did, I'll tell you
Speaker 6: it was probably more surprised that they happened. Now was
Speaker 6: definitely expecting him in Week five, So I'm almost thankful
Speaker 6: that we got that, you know, out of the way.
Speaker 6: We all understand where certain people feel and think.
Speaker 1: Week five jets Bronco's bad news for Nate. It's gonna
Speaker 1: come up again in October, but maybe it will be
Speaker 1: not as hot as story, or maybe it will be hotter.
Speaker 1: I don't know. There is the latest and maybe the
Speaker 1: final dispatch on this particular gem of the offseason.
Speaker 2: Well it won't be the final, I mean.
Speaker 3: Also, Sean Payton claimed that he was gonna call up
Speaker 3: Nathaniel Hackett and apologize man de mand person to person,
Speaker 3: and Hackett said that's not happened yet. He doesn't expect
Speaker 3: it to.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: In the end, I think Sean Payton, like, I think
Speaker 3: there was a strategy behind all this, and I've stood
Speaker 3: by the fact that I think, well, I think your
Speaker 3: theory theory is on point, but I think it was
Speaker 3: in defense of Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4: But it comes out looking poorly here.
Speaker 3: And I thought that if anything, Hackett just kind of
Speaker 3: owned it, and like, who's more disappointed about what happened
Speaker 3: with the Denver Broncos than Nathaniel Hackett. Like he's also
Speaker 3: under a lot of pressure because I think there's some
Speaker 3: suspicion around, uh, you know, being not attached Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4: The ship sinks right away. Now you're with him again.
Speaker 3: But the Jets schedule out of the gate is really rough,
Speaker 3: So I'm interested to see where they where that team
Speaker 3: is in week five by the time they played the Broncos.
Speaker 2: I saw this Hard Knock Sad. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you've seen it yet, Dan, you get the Hard Knocks podcast,
Speaker 2: and it said the most compelling team in the NFL,
Speaker 2: and that's the New York Jets. And then we're just adding,
Speaker 2: we're just adding fuel to the fire. It's great, and
Speaker 2: you're right that it's coming back up uh in week five.
Speaker 2: But I think Mark at the key point here was
Speaker 2: like Sean Payton just showed his ass. I don't care
Speaker 2: that he said it at all. I actually don't even
Speaker 2: care that he regretted it afterwards and apologized for it.
Speaker 2: Like that's all fine too, but you're just being a
Speaker 2: total phony if you didn't actually call the man just
Speaker 2: being be a human, you're a complete phony who's just
Speaker 2: being tried to manipulate the media in one way first,
Speaker 2: then tried it the other way, and like you couldn't
Speaker 2: be a real dude and actually just call the guy
Speaker 2: and have a talk, right, And.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what are you going to say to him?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: Sorry, why does she sorry? Why this about this other person?
Speaker 2: Well, just like I look, obviously he believed it, but uh,
Speaker 2: are you going to see you right?
Speaker 3: Are you going to say, I don't actually I believe
Speaker 3: what I said about you?
Speaker 2: You say, like I shouldn't have said.
Speaker 1: That I got carried away? You know, there was a
Speaker 1: way he showed. Sean Payton showed so much of his
Speaker 1: ass that they had to blur out the bottom of
Speaker 1: his butt crag. It got so it was so full.
Speaker 1: If you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping true
Speaker 1: too too? All right? That Hacket job twenty three? And yes,
Speaker 1: the Hard Knocks podcast with me and Colleen Wolf will
Speaker 1: actually debut later this week with a preview episode. I
Speaker 1: had a great conversation today with rich Semini of ESPN,
Speaker 1: who's covered that team for almost thirty five years, longer
Speaker 1: than any beat writer ever. Very nice convo. And then
Speaker 1: we'll have shows every Tuesday night recapping each episode. First
Speaker 1: guest on the show, The Face and longtime jets Van
Speaker 1: rich Eisen will join.
Speaker 2: What a lineup?
Speaker 1: A recap episode one. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 2: Will there?
Speaker 4: Do you think that Greg and or Mark will appear
Speaker 4: at some point?
Speaker 1: Would you like to be on the program?
Speaker 4: I would want to be on any program, but especially
Speaker 4: this one.
Speaker 3: Because this, I say, now you sound like Sean Payton,
Speaker 3: nobody I would like. Yeah, But like so, I've had
Speaker 3: my issues, my ups and downs with Hard Knocks, right,
Speaker 3: not this time?
Speaker 1: You're all in? All right?
Speaker 4: This is what I've been waiting for.
Speaker 3: If you are all in on the program when I'm
Speaker 3: not asking for but now I'm asking for it.
Speaker 1: If you're all in, yeah, because that's shows for people that.
Speaker 2: Are all in.
Speaker 4: Haven't I been pro Jets this offseason?
Speaker 3: I'm not largely yet yeah, well like mostly yes, so yes,
Speaker 3: I want to be.
Speaker 1: This isn't so much about the Jets. It's about Hard Knocks,
Speaker 1: the program, which doesn't have to be all sunshine and
Speaker 1: rainbows right right. If you're excited to talk about the
Speaker 1: show and watch a show that's exactly the type.
Speaker 4: Of I'm only asking for like two or three minutes.
Speaker 3: I'll come on, Oh really minutes even like absolutely squeeze
Speaker 3: me in, just squeeze me into.
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound all in. I mean if I'm I am,
Speaker 2: if I'm doing like a ranking, like a power rankings
Speaker 2: of who's been in on Hard Knocks over the years,
Speaker 2: Dan's clear number one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll like on the payroll.
Speaker 2: I'll throw Colleen in there now too, because she's involved,
Speaker 2: like with it. I'm strongly right behind them, always been
Speaker 2: a supporter.
Speaker 1: Support of all NFL films enterprises.
Speaker 2: We Wes was next. He had mixed feelings. He started
Speaker 2: to get a little sick of it, and then I
Speaker 2: would put rank you last.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's see, don't you see the dynamic I had?
Speaker 3: I was in that spot down at the bottom. I
Speaker 3: would argue Wes and I were probably equal. But like
Speaker 3: I'm now saying, I'm enthused, there's some enthusiasm.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take that under advisement. I'll have a conversation
Speaker 1: with Colleen. I don't know what else to say.
Speaker 3: Colleen's gonna say no, then I don't. I've never had
Speaker 3: an issue with her but that, but it this way.
Speaker 3: Now that we've had this conversation, if you're not on
Speaker 3: the show, you'll know why. Yeah, I will, so will
Speaker 3: everyone else.
Speaker 2: I also don't like how much Pop Quarterback got versus
Speaker 2: Hard Knocks that this was somehow the most important football
Speaker 2: show in the world. And I pushed back on that,
Speaker 2: And so now I'm ready to say I'm rededicating.
Speaker 1: That's a little straw, Manny, your old boss Florio apparently
Speaker 1: wrote that. Well, it's not else.
Speaker 2: It's saying it's a powerful opinion maker in the in
Speaker 2: the NFL, there's no straw here.
Speaker 1: You might be on the payroll, still flush and blood. Anyway,
Speaker 1: good stuff. And I did talk to Samini real briefly.
Speaker 1: We got to move on, but I said, oh, you
Speaker 1: ever hear about Hackett? By the way other than the
Speaker 1: disaster of Denver. She's so fun to play for. I
Speaker 1: think Hard Knocks is gonna be interesting to see what
Speaker 1: makes what is fun mean? What is fun meaning? In
Speaker 1: the NFL? Why does he make it fun?
Speaker 3: I think if you're HBO, it's like if Hackett was
Speaker 3: like number eight person that you're gonna cover, He's like
Speaker 3: rising up the charts.
Speaker 2: It's a great example of stuff that happens in all careers.
Speaker 2: It's like, not everyone is meant to be the person
Speaker 2: in charge, and oh, by the way, being the person
Speaker 2: in charge might not be that fun. Anyways. I feel
Speaker 2: like Hackett found his level. It should be one down
Speaker 2: and he can be great at that all right.
Speaker 1: In other news, bad news out of speaking of the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos, Broncos defensive tackle Auma a Yuma Auzakari help
Speaker 1: me out, is it a Uma?
Speaker 2: I've never heard anyone say his name auza Kari ouza Rique. Rather,
Speaker 2: this is a hard one.
Speaker 4: You're making a tough on population.
Speaker 2: It's a fourth round, fourth round anyway, fourth round pick.
Speaker 1: Last year, Ayuma o Zaike was suspended in definitely last
Speaker 1: week for betting on NFL games in the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two season, and now he is being investigated in a
Speaker 1: criminal probe involving gambling. This from the Des Moines Register
Speaker 1: via PFT. The report is that prosecutors in iosa a
Speaker 1: fan duel account who are Zurichi controlled, was used to
Speaker 1: make approximately eight hundred and one wagers totaling over twenty
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars, and that some of the wagers on
Speaker 1: both Broncos and Iowa State football games in which he plays.
Speaker 1: Prosecutors say he bet on four Broncos games for which
Speaker 1: he was an active last season, as well as the
Speaker 1: Broncos December eighteenth game against the Cardinals, game in which
Speaker 1: he played twenty nine snaps and had two tackles. There
Speaker 1: was also an element to this story Greg where he
Speaker 1: tried to scheme with another person, a woman named Rachel
Speaker 1: Luise Francis. Now I'm like, I'm I'm downing everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could be rachelle Lois FRANCEI I don't know, to
Speaker 1: disguise his identity and manipulate mobile transactions to make it
Speaker 1: look like BET's placed by him were actually placed by her.
Speaker 2: It's uh oh, it's clearly because of the criminal part
Speaker 2: of it. First of all, if you if you do
Speaker 2: the math, the amount of money he spent in the
Speaker 2: amount of bets he made. Those bets average twenty six
Speaker 2: dollars per bet. Why so, no one's getting rich off this.
Speaker 2: No one's even trying to get rich off this. But
Speaker 2: I found it very fascinating. He also was doing like
Speaker 2: player props involving the Broncos, like Broncos related ones. We're
Speaker 2: up to thirty two. I mean, you could absolutely get
Speaker 2: inside information. Who knows if he had that or not.
Speaker 2: My guess would be not based on the lack of
Speaker 2: money he was actually putting down here. But the Iowa
Speaker 2: State quarterback is also wrapped up in this and it's
Speaker 2: probably going to be suspended forever. Like I don't know
Speaker 2: if that if he had a pro career, but his
Speaker 2: football life is essentially over for this. You just hope
Speaker 2: that this is like learning process for some of these
Speaker 2: players that we won't keep going through this, but I
Speaker 2: don't know, might just keep happening a year after year.
Speaker 4: I do wonder.
Speaker 3: I think now though, there's got to be there's awareness
Speaker 3: now because we've had these suspensions that have come in bunches,
Speaker 3: but these rolling investigations, because it's like they all happened
Speaker 3: a month or two ago.
Speaker 4: Guys getting suspended.
Speaker 2: This happened, like I have too of it happened two
Speaker 2: years ago while he was at Iowa State. They were
Speaker 2: already investigation.
Speaker 3: Well, but I mean the NFL's yeah, like you know,
Speaker 3: dropping the suspension. We're we're close to games, and we're
Speaker 3: close to real games. I know, we're saying when the
Speaker 3: season really starts. But it's like, will this kind of
Speaker 3: thing happen where they NFL learned something in Week three
Speaker 3: and they suspend someone and will it ever be a
Speaker 3: star player? It's all these guys who are kind of
Speaker 3: like backup, backup dudes and they're gone, and it's like cool,
Speaker 3: have a nice time.
Speaker 2: But like Govin Ridley and Jamison Williams really makes sense.
Speaker 3: But like I'm just saying, I'm wondering, like, will we
Speaker 3: be hit with one where the NFL has to make
Speaker 3: a really tough decision on someone caught doing something and
Speaker 3: they're a major headliner.
Speaker 1: Good story to watch, big story to watch? Is there
Speaker 1: any good news coming out of Denver camp right now?
Speaker 1: The Broncos waved wide receiver kJ Hamler with a non
Speaker 1: football injury designation on Monday that coming after is diagnosed
Speaker 1: with a heart issue that led to his exit from
Speaker 1: Broncos camp. There is a positive spin to this that Denver,
Speaker 1: despite waving Hamler, they still see a future with him,
Speaker 1: and Peyton said that Hammler's expected to be out approximately
Speaker 1: a month as he treats the condition, and the hope
Speaker 1: is that he'll be back with the team. Former second
Speaker 1: round pick who's had trouble, like so many Broncos wide
Speaker 1: receivers in the last couple of years, really getting his
Speaker 1: career going amidst injuries and ineffective quarterback play. Maybe he's
Speaker 1: a player for them, Maybe he's not. They could use him.
Speaker 2: They had four wide receivers going into last season that
Speaker 2: looks so promising. Patrick, Judy, Sutton and Handler. I really
Speaker 2: like Hamdler as a rookie. Those four guys have never
Speaker 2: played and completed a full game together like that was
Speaker 2: their vision that all these guys are pretty young, varying levels.
Speaker 2: Patrick's a little older, and they played exactly one game altogether,
Speaker 2: and by the end of that game, I think it
Speaker 2: was Judy or Sutton who was hurt. And it's just
Speaker 2: now you would assume it's never gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're three years in talking about Denver's offensive lineup
Speaker 3: as simply more potential than anything we've seen. I do
Speaker 3: think it's interesting that with Peyton there, Marcus Calloways there,
Speaker 3: our friend little Jordan Humphrey, I get sort of a
Speaker 3: friend of the show.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he I don't know if he
Speaker 4: he was on the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if he thought that was the
Speaker 3: greatest moment of his life, that interview.
Speaker 1: But I don't think he's ever thought of it ever.
Speaker 3: Again, No, I'm sure escaped the memory right away. But
Speaker 3: issues Marvin Mins, I guess he's going to get, you know,
Speaker 3: more meaningful snaps right away at this point.
Speaker 1: In other injury news, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will be
Speaker 1: without their first round pick for a month, at least,
Speaker 1: that appears. ESPN's Adam Chefter reported that defensive tackle Elijah Cansey,
Speaker 1: the nineteenth overall pick in this year's draft, has a
Speaker 1: strained calf Joe Burrow injury, and the hope, as like
Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow and with virtually every player who has
Speaker 1: a chance, the hope is that he'll be back for
Speaker 1: Week one. Mark This is a Bucks defense that regress
Speaker 1: last year that needs some fresh blood. The ideas that
Speaker 1: Canty will be an immediate contributor, and now most of
Speaker 1: his summer gets wiped out by a lower body injury
Speaker 1: is not good, Bob No.
Speaker 3: And they want him to, you know, right away line
Speaker 3: up next to Videvea, and this is someone they've talked about.
Speaker 3: Is like a little Aaron Donald type player. Lances Erline
Speaker 3: compared him to John Randall, the old Vikings Havock Reeker,
Speaker 3: who was an incredible defensive player. And I think in general,
Speaker 3: like the Bucks. You know, if he comes back and
Speaker 3: he's healthy, it's like we're kind of just written off.
Speaker 1: The Bucks.
Speaker 3: I feel like if I look at one team just
Speaker 3: because of their quarterback situation in post Tom Brady, it's
Speaker 3: like the Bucks actually have a lot of talent on defense,
Speaker 3: and they're a team that in a soft NFC, in
Speaker 3: a winnable division, had just been counted out.
Speaker 2: I feel like the Bucks barely exist. I cannot remember
Speaker 2: a quarterback battle getting less attention than Baker versus Trask,
Speaker 2: and it sounds like it's a real battle that Trask.
Speaker 1: There's a four today that it's tightening up, which is
Speaker 1: not I don't think that's a good sign for bakery.
Speaker 2: It's not good that it's a Dave Canalis the O
Speaker 2: c who was with Gino in Seattle last year, said uh,
Speaker 2: don't cut out John Walford, and he said throw him
Speaker 2: into the competition cauldron. And I said, I like that.
Speaker 2: That's nice. I think he said the competitive cauldron. I'm
Speaker 2: going to call it the competition.
Speaker 1: Eric Roberts, producer, write that down. That is a goddamn
Speaker 1: segment if I have ever heard of the competition cauldron.
Speaker 2: I was very excited. I was excited to see what
Speaker 2: and I was like, man, they're all going to start games.
Speaker 2: It's a good reminder of different Vitavea had a Grade
Speaker 2: three calf strain and missed like a couple of months
Speaker 2: of his rookie year and came back and in the
Speaker 2: middle of the season, I think it was week five
Speaker 2: or six, and immediately was great. But he missed a
Speaker 2: long time. They said, this is a grade one strain.
Speaker 2: The only reason I'm pointing this out is like, well,
Speaker 2: the Bengals, I wish someone told me which strain Burrow had.
Speaker 2: You would guess maybe with their optimism, maybe his was
Speaker 2: a Grade one strain, and that's why they feel contus.
Speaker 1: Between a Grade one and a Grade two.
Speaker 3: Why are they withholding that information from us?
Speaker 2: It's a good orders out there and in Tampa seems
Speaker 2: like to keep that clothes, someone needs to dig a little.
Speaker 1: You know who? You know who's really interested their Week
Speaker 1: one Pro opponent, the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, so why give
Speaker 1: them anything?
Speaker 2: The fact that Jake Browning is taking their first team
Speaker 2: snaps the Bengals that is in practice, tells me they
Speaker 2: can't be that worried. You needn't break. You know who
Speaker 2: really wants to know that?
Speaker 1: Speaking of a callback to an earlier story you've done,
Speaker 1: the Desert wants to know. It's Joe Burrow playing. Yeah
Speaker 1: about those MVP odds that he was on top of
Speaker 1: the day before that injury. I'm sure he's not anymore.
Speaker 2: Own Lozo Rique is he's texting his friends over in
Speaker 2: Cincinnati trying to get some tips. Just rubbed it in
Speaker 2: my face. I think I said it wrong. I actually
Speaker 2: just decided I went with the Lions defensive tackle Levi.
Speaker 2: He's just leaning into that habit nested up. I messed
Speaker 2: it up.
Speaker 1: Eight o'clock to light GREGI.
Speaker 3: O. J.
Speaker 2: Howard remember him, first round pick, cut by a team?
Speaker 2: What team was he on? Mark, he was on the Raiders. Okay,
Speaker 2: he looked at his notes.
Speaker 3: No, but this is a guy who has thirty five
Speaker 3: receptions over the.
Speaker 1: Last sea By the way, I can't miss prospect out
Speaker 1: of Alba.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's it. Ken. I wanted to know.
Speaker 2: I noted Brett Meyer. This was actually a week ago.
Speaker 2: But he has a job in Denver. He is part
Speaker 2: of the kicking competition. No one gave Brett maher a
Speaker 2: job until a week ago after what happened Dan Gregor.
Speaker 1: He missed like seven extra points.
Speaker 2: I get it, but he hit ninety last.
Speaker 1: Especially in the crucible of the postseason, and he's clearly
Speaker 1: his mind was all banged up. You don't want to
Speaker 1: go near a kicker like that. I got respect for
Speaker 1: the man. He had a great season otherwise, but that
Speaker 1: sticks in the minds of all Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Running back Ronald Jone suspended two games for pets. They
Speaker 2: need to back them. Nickelodeon to air the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: My kids will like that. And then finally, Jalen Hurd,
Speaker 2: the former third round pick who played multiple positions for
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, has retired with the Patriots, and
Speaker 2: I just wanted to how did that make keep? You've
Speaker 2: too much so you actually abused it. I have a
Speaker 2: I have a take here though. How many careers have
Speaker 2: ended in Patriots training camp? They end? It always happens.
Speaker 2: I'm not picking on the poor manta like Reggie Wayne,
Speaker 2: our our friend Andrew Hawkins, Like all these people show
Speaker 2: up to Patriots training camp and they're just like, I
Speaker 2: don't want to play.
Speaker 4: Football too serious.
Speaker 1: Let me do some some big corporate corporo digging here,
Speaker 1: because that doesn't make any sense, the Nickelodeon thing. But
Speaker 1: sure enough, Nickelodeon is.
Speaker 2: The guy they guy you need to double sorts meet.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm just strung. Why would they ever
Speaker 1: agree to do that? Nickelodeon is part of the Paramount
Speaker 1: Media Networks, which is owned by Beliefs, which is.
Speaker 3: Yes, why do you why would they? Why would they
Speaker 3: agree to do what air the Super Bowl? Like have
Speaker 3: an alternate podcast to slice Way the R.
Speaker 4: Do you care about children's programming?
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying I wonder why one of the big
Speaker 1: networks would ever siphon off any of their audience. But
Speaker 1: CBS don't care because Nickelodeon, as I mentioned, is part
Speaker 1: of the paramount media networks, just Corporo. You know, talk
Speaker 1: omrations and you know, one fish eats the bigger fish,
Speaker 1: then gets eaten by the next fish. That whole thing,
Speaker 1: the evolution of the business world. It's it's a little
Speaker 1: upper level for you, but.
Speaker 4: You know, yes, it's over my head.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the news. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go.
Speaker 3: See people think we took a break there, but it's
Speaker 3: really we're laughing ause it's like eight seconds from when
Speaker 3: we were then they shoved something in, so the listener
Speaker 3: has to take a break, but we're not.
Speaker 2: We don't take.
Speaker 3: Really really poison. Well, you're teaching me about the corporate
Speaker 3: adult world. I'm teaching you about how this broadcast works.
Speaker 3: We don't take breaks. I'm not walking around the hallway
Speaker 3: in between our show.
Speaker 1: Is this part of the show. Are we leaving this A?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is in all right, welcome back in real time.
Speaker 1: We move on now with this is a great exercise.
Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. All across the league. Every team
Speaker 1: is in training camp, the pads are on and people
Speaker 1: fans want answers to the questions. And that's why the
Speaker 1: media is so important. They are the conduit. So with
Speaker 1: that said, let's do some head coach press conferences and
Speaker 1: let's have some fun with it. Mark, try to have
Speaker 1: fun with it. This is a text I got from
Speaker 1: Mark after pitching the idea at nine to twenty four am.
Speaker 1: I'd rather not attempt to shift into actor mode, but
Speaker 1: I think the Q and A aspect works well.
Speaker 3: If that's not enthusiasm, I don't know what is I
Speaker 3: you know what I'm trying to say, Like, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna do a bunch of you know, song and dance
Speaker 3: and voices. I want to I'll help you with the
Speaker 3: press conference part right.
Speaker 1: This is an entertainment vehicle first and foremost. May I'm
Speaker 1: not saying you need to become Robert de Niro and
Speaker 1: become a method actor. When you pull a name out
Speaker 1: of this helmet, yeah, then I'm hold here's jibbon helmet.
Speaker 1: But I I would hope that you're gonna You're a
Speaker 1: very creative person. Let me set this up this way, right, Mark,
Speaker 1: you a very creative guy, and I think I believe
Speaker 1: in you that this segment will fly in large part
Speaker 1: because of your contribution.
Speaker 2: TBD, get it, get him involved. I think that's good.
Speaker 2: I like a segment where you don't know where it's
Speaker 2: gonna go. We're just flying by the seat of our pants.
Speaker 2: I think I think that was maybe some of the
Speaker 2: anxiety you were searing from Mark. Right, that's where you're
Speaker 2: gonna get the best market the end.
Speaker 1: There you go. I like that. You're a prep guy
Speaker 1: and I know this. This is a little bit right.
Speaker 2: I think that should be the first coach then, right.
Speaker 1: Because listen, am I short it's gonna go? Well, no,
Speaker 1: this segment could be terrible, but we I think until
Speaker 1: we try it so I have. I'm holding this official
Speaker 1: Giants helmet. They're very heavy.
Speaker 2: I like this segment already. I mean, we could do
Speaker 2: it with like historical figures in the future. It could
Speaker 2: have offshoots.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but George Washington, I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean more like George Pallas or something, the.
Speaker 3: Delaware River just chopping it up during the rev. If
Speaker 3: George Washington actually ever existed.
Speaker 2: Hey, George, it's like, when is this rev gonna be over?
Speaker 2: It's take it forever.
Speaker 1: Rev. Anyway, thirty two coaches in this helmet. I will
Speaker 1: pull the first name, and now the other two men
Speaker 1: in the studio will serve as the journo's that will
Speaker 1: ask questions of this coach.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, there's no time limit. It's just we'll see it,
Speaker 2: just see how it goes.
Speaker 3: And I have drawn the name of it's not going
Speaker 3: to go on forever, but yours Mite.
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Sean McDermott. I am Sean McDermott. Hey, what's
Speaker 1: up everybody? The day of practice today and feel good
Speaker 1: about the progress we're making. Obviously a long way to go,
Speaker 1: but a good start. Open up for questions.
Speaker 3: Let's be real, the Buffalo Bills have been an NFL centerpiece.
Speaker 3: What's a successful season like? Is anything less than, you know,
Speaker 3: winning the AFC something that would put you, let's on
Speaker 3: a bit of a hot seat.
Speaker 1: It's a good question, Mark. I think what you're expecting
Speaker 1: me to say is the typical coach answer that I'm
Speaker 1: just what's in front of me right now, and we're
Speaker 1: right now. The focus on is on training camp and
Speaker 1: then week one against our opponent. I haven't checked in
Speaker 1: on who it is yet. Hosts of New York Jets
Speaker 1: on the tight.
Speaker 2: Night Football you had you might want to get on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I will be honest with you. This is
Speaker 1: Super Bowl or bust for this team. And I don't
Speaker 1: think my job is in danger, but I would say
Speaker 1: many jobs in the organization are in peril if we
Speaker 1: fall short of the goal of this season. And I'm
Speaker 1: I'm neivous about it because I know we've been building
Speaker 1: towards this. But I feel really good about the team.
Speaker 1: I think I got the dig situation under control of
Speaker 1: That guy's a nightmare behind the scenes. Just keep it
Speaker 1: between us.
Speaker 2: Yes, Diggs is a nightmare. Can you expound on that?
Speaker 1: I take that back. He's a personality and a charismatic and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a live one here. We're gonna need
Speaker 2: a one Buffalo News.
Speaker 1: That Stephon wants to win. And that's what we love
Speaker 1: about Stephan. He's an incredible competitor, as is every other
Speaker 1: man on this roster if you're going to be part
Speaker 1: of Buffalo Country. So we're excited about Stefan and Josh
Speaker 1: and the whole gang making magic.
Speaker 3: What does it mean, Leslie Fraser gone, you have to
Speaker 3: do the head coach thing where you're also calling plays
Speaker 3: on defense. You're not able to delegate that at this point.
Speaker 3: Do you feel ready to do all that on game
Speaker 3: day or is it like a little bit too my
Speaker 3: maybe you know, taking a little big too.
Speaker 1: Full disclosure again, I don't know. Maybe I was hanging
Speaker 1: out with Sean Payton before the conference. I forgot to
Speaker 1: hire new DC, so we had to lift it as vacant.
Speaker 1: That's my bad. But as you know that that is
Speaker 1: where I earned my bones down there in Charlotte. And
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good about I'm feeling okay. I'm feeling strong
Speaker 1: to quite strong in terms of my confidence that the
Speaker 1: team will be competitive defensively. You need to get von
Speaker 1: Beckhn was our closer. We were never the same without him.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take it easy. He's like forty five years
Speaker 1: old coming off another knee injury, so not feeling that
Speaker 1: good about it that he's gonna still be an impact player.
Speaker 1: But if he is, we will do what we need
Speaker 1: to do on defense. He's our closer and Josh will
Speaker 1: do the rest.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Sean, how's that right guard battle going? Cyrus
Speaker 2: Torrens coming? You know is going to be Ryan Bates
Speaker 2: second round pick.
Speaker 1: I like what Bates is doing, but look out for
Speaker 1: Ike Bottiker because he's he's working, he's grinding. I could
Speaker 1: tell he wants it. And Kevin Jarvis is also in
Speaker 1: that room amongst the right guards, and he wants it
Speaker 1: as well. That's all. That's all I got. You.
Speaker 2: Ever, you ever try to relax a little, I'm gonna squeeze,
Speaker 2: and like, you know, sometimes it's like you're the dad
Speaker 2: driving the you know, the kids on vacation and you're
Speaker 2: gripping that wheel so tight. You ever just want to
Speaker 2: like just ease up a little bit?
Speaker 1: You ever?
Speaker 2: You ever think about that?
Speaker 1: Do I seem like I'm a tense individual? Yes?
Speaker 4: What publication are you writing for over there?
Speaker 1: Report? Are you aware what's happening in Western New York
Speaker 1: with professional football for the past I don't know, like
Speaker 1: fifty years and the amount of pressure I'm under to
Speaker 1: get over the hump? Do you understand what it means
Speaker 1: to be the coach of the Buffalo Bills and we
Speaker 1: keep getting back to the playoffs and we can't get
Speaker 1: over it? Do you know what I mean? I'm out
Speaker 1: of here that you gotta be careful? Can I just
Speaker 1: say unsolicited advice here? Like journal to journal? Be careful?
Speaker 1: What you ask? What these guys. I mean they are
Speaker 1: highly strong, so it's a high pressure environment.
Speaker 2: It got a great answer. It got a great answer.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be leading w That's what it is about. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: I can't look here we go?
Speaker 1: Do you like putting picking out?
Speaker 2: All right? I'm uh, I'm Arthur Smith. Interesting, Hey, you
Speaker 2: know me, I'm Arthur Smith. It's like, yes, I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't tell you. I'm like the tough guy. Maybe
Speaker 2: I'm over compensating because, like you know, Dad's the fed
Speaker 2: X boss, but I'm the tough guy. I always a
Speaker 2: lot of sarcasm.
Speaker 1: What do you got, well, Arthur? You know, uh, the
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins signing. Do you think that will will finally
Speaker 1: get you over the hump? Post aj Brown? And also
Speaker 1: have you seen Justin Graver, the former producer of Around
Speaker 1: the NFL, putting out hype videos for Traylon Burkes? Is
Speaker 1: this wide receiver room gonna be worth the damas yere? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is Jim Wyatt or something.
Speaker 2: If you're time traveling, but I'm in Atlanta. I'm me
Speaker 2: Atlanta head football coach. We're we've moved on past Tennessee
Speaker 2: I parlayed that into this job. So I don't need
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins. I don't need you at my press. I'll
Speaker 2: see myself out. I'll ask, are you tempted?
Speaker 3: I understand from ownership on down, there's this this verbal
Speaker 3: faith in Desmond Ritter. Are you tempted to bring in
Speaker 3: your old guy, Ryan Tannehill to run a similar you know,
Speaker 3: ground and pound offense that you had back in Tennessee
Speaker 3: when you were Tennessee's offensive court.
Speaker 2: You know, I love the ground, I love the pound.
Speaker 2: I love the possibility of this team maybe being the
Speaker 2: team of the around the NFL podcast. I hear those
Speaker 2: guys are pretty big out there.
Speaker 1: Uh. I got guy that got kicked out. We're not
Speaker 1: knowing where you're coaching, but he doesn't want that.
Speaker 2: I got u. I got my Tannahill right here for you.
Speaker 2: His name is Taylor Heinike. That's my Tannehill. We're not
Speaker 2: gonna worry about the forward pass too much. We're gonna
Speaker 2: run the ball. We got we got Corterrell, we got Bejon,
Speaker 2: we got Algier, we got Ridder. He can run a
Speaker 2: little bit. Taylor can scamp her back there too. It's
Speaker 2: not about it's not about passing the ball in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, did you just say, sir? Because I feel
Speaker 1: like I got my headline here. We're not worried too
Speaker 1: much about the forward pass.
Speaker 2: No, wow, everyone ziggin, we're zagging. We're gonna be tougher
Speaker 2: than you. Is it over compensating because I didn't play
Speaker 2: football at a high level and my dad was a billionaire.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but we're gonna be tougher than you.
Speaker 2: I'm the tough guys.
Speaker 3: You keep bringing up the your father's you know, shipping
Speaker 3: magnate history, like do you yourself, when's the what's the
Speaker 3: last FedEx package that you received?
Speaker 4: And what was inside of it?
Speaker 2: On ball all the time, never into it. Amazon's kind
Speaker 2: of taking a big bite out of us, but we're
Speaker 2: working with them.
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, next Mark, it's it's that was nice.
Speaker 1: I apologize for that little mind craft.
Speaker 2: You start here, Rocky start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 4: Cardinals coach Jonathan Gannon tough one.
Speaker 2: That was the one I was I think would be
Speaker 2: ranked thirty two out of this list. Jonathan, you're splitting
Speaker 2: your quarterback reps four weeks.
Speaker 3: He has to say he has to step up and
Speaker 3: make his initial come Hi, guys, Jonathan Gannon, I'm very
Speaker 3: excited to be here.
Speaker 4: First year coach. I don't know if you have ever
Speaker 4: seen him before.
Speaker 3: You know, we've got a young roster, a lot of
Speaker 3: a lot of players here that we believe in, and
Speaker 3: we believe in developing our players, and the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 3: are not giving up before the season starts to court.
Speaker 1: You know, contrary to suspicious reports, what going on with
Speaker 1: your split in.
Speaker 2: The quarterback reps? Four ways at camps there's old Bill
Speaker 2: Barcell saying, you know, if you got two quarterbacks, you
Speaker 2: got none, what do you got when you got four
Speaker 2: quarter That is as well?
Speaker 4: Hold on.
Speaker 3: We believe in competition here number one, And first of all,
Speaker 3: I want to talk about the leadership of Colt McCoy.
Speaker 3: Our quarterback room couldn't have a better leader. But we've
Speaker 3: got this young fifth round pick, Clayton Tune that the
Speaker 3: more I see of them, the more I think that
Speaker 3: this kid could play. So it's like, why would I
Speaker 3: automatically assign our quarterback day one here? Like we have
Speaker 3: a chance for all four of them to make some noise.
Speaker 3: David blau is a young hero. Have you seen Jeff
Speaker 3: Driscoll play. I mean, I think we know we can play.
Speaker 2: Are you as subscriber to the Blowhards newsletter?
Speaker 3: I you know, I did for years subscribe to that
Speaker 3: and it was an incredible read. It was typewritten. It
Speaker 3: would arrive, you know, roughly ten or twelve days late.
Speaker 3: But I mean, what a great thing to go back
Speaker 3: and look at. That's one of the reasons he's here.
Speaker 2: One more for coach, you, everybody one more.
Speaker 1: You know, there are reports out there that Coach there's
Speaker 1: a a quote culture shock in Arizona. I'm curious a
Speaker 1: if you want to do any peytonizing of the former
Speaker 1: coach Cliff Kingsbury, and also if you realize you might
Speaker 1: be being set up, set up as a patsy in
Speaker 1: Arizona for one of the worst seasons in franchise history.
Speaker 4: I do sense that the latter on some level.
Speaker 1: But there's the headline.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I you know, I took the job believing
Speaker 3: that the Cardinals have a strong future with me at
Speaker 3: the Helm. I believe it will hopefully last more than
Speaker 3: seven or eight months.
Speaker 1: Thank you for your candor, Coach. All right, here we go, Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. I am you doing everybody, It's as
Speaker 1: you know, it's me Ron rivera coach of the Washington
Speaker 1: Whatever we are now, good day at camp today, guys
Speaker 1: working hard, grinding. If we can get one percent better
Speaker 1: every day, it will be in good shape come September.
Speaker 1: What do you got?
Speaker 4: What is your philosophy?
Speaker 3: I would guess centered around your utter refusal to get
Speaker 3: a functional quarterback?
Speaker 1: WHOA, Well, thanks for the question. Uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: I tend to think that people seem to be overlooking
Speaker 1: the upside of Sam Howe. Did you know have you heard,
Speaker 1: sir that many people had him atop the draft board
Speaker 1: of QBS in two thousand and twenty two. Did you
Speaker 1: hear that?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, outside of the fact that yeah, you're nay, sir, nay,
Speaker 3: you did not hear that thirty two teams decided he
Speaker 3: was not needed to be picked in the first four rounds.
Speaker 1: Good point, pro good point, Yeah, sir, decorum. I believe
Speaker 1: in Sam how kind of but that's also why I
Speaker 1: have Jake Brisket. So if Sam how is terrible, I
Speaker 1: know I can slide in Jake Brisket, and I can
Speaker 1: I'll be locked and loaded for seven wins, eight wins
Speaker 1: tops pretty good stuff. And then you know, I'm probably
Speaker 1: out of here anyway. Let's be honest, They're going to
Speaker 1: clean this whole place out. All I need to do
Speaker 1: is make sure I don't go you know, three and fourteen,
Speaker 1: you know, four and thirteen, five and twelve. If I
Speaker 1: can avoid that, I might get another head coaching job
Speaker 1: because people will say, oh, we love Ron. Everybody loves me.
Speaker 1: Everybody loves me. So it's like maybe I get a
Speaker 1: third bite of the apple because they say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he went to the super Bowl with the Panthers, and
Speaker 1: ah he was with Washington. What a joke that was
Speaker 1: with you know that old guy owner. If I could
Speaker 1: just be mediocre, I could keep this, this, this organization
Speaker 1: in that in that plane. I think I can get
Speaker 1: another job somewhere else.
Speaker 4: Inspiring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2: Give me your best Dan Snyder story. Now that he's gone,
Speaker 2: he can just man, he had this. He took me
Speaker 2: out fishing once and he climbed up into the top
Speaker 2: of the what do they call that thing that the perch.
Speaker 2: He has to add a rifle, and he was just
Speaker 2: sniping dolphins. He just like wipe them out and and
Speaker 2: he wasn't even collecting them. It wasn't like it was
Speaker 2: like he was using them to eat.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you eat dolphins their mammal or
Speaker 1: hang them up in his parlor or anything. Just shooting,
Speaker 1: shooting the bastards, poor things. So that is a harrowing memory.
Speaker 2: Let's get one more fro on, guys, one more all right?
Speaker 1: I feel like I shouldn't have shared that one. Okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead?
Speaker 2: What uh? What is a successful season for this commander's team?
Speaker 1: I already told you, sir, eight and nine home run
Speaker 1: and if if hal stinks, then I'll put in Brisket
Speaker 1: and he'll get me those seven or eight wins?
Speaker 2: Are you awaring it? And I forgot this? And I'm
Speaker 2: speaking here as the reporter Greg Rosenthal. I was flipping
Speaker 2: through my my phone last night and I saw a
Speaker 2: London fan of the Around the NFL podcast once wore
Speaker 2: a brisket jersey to the game, which I had forgotten about.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's damn incredible.
Speaker 1: I watch all the time. I watched it all.
Speaker 2: Speaking, I watched. Someone should know this. I did a
Speaker 2: bad job there as a journal I need to step
Speaker 2: up my game.
Speaker 1: Well, this time you're gonna take on the shoes.
Speaker 2: Of I am a Cleveland Brown's coach. Kevin Stefanski.
Speaker 1: Kevin, you've been posting on your looks for a couple
Speaker 1: of years now, and yes you are a mezanine and
Speaker 1: TIERR clooney. I will give you that. But after the
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson uh situation, you see, you understand you are
Speaker 1: during an immense amount of pressure to be a double
Speaker 1: digit win team or else.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I get it. Everyone's gone this year if
Speaker 2: we don't win. You know, Deshaun, there's positives and negatives,
Speaker 2: you know, the negative, all the horrible things he did,
Speaker 2: the complete year of embarrassment. We had to live through
Speaker 2: his play on the field, maybe the worst quarterback in
Speaker 2: the league. The contract, I mean, it's kind of a joke.
Speaker 2: Made us look bad, and it's just an extraordinary amount
Speaker 2: of money that's been sent out there.
Speaker 1: Remarkable candor for these coaches.
Speaker 2: What was I getting out?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the positive? No one's actually heard me speak in
Speaker 2: a year, so he's kind of taken that attention away.
Speaker 2: But I'm very aware year four, we need to win
Speaker 2: I would say ten games or also, I'm going.
Speaker 3: Peel the onion back for us. The two journalists here
Speaker 3: in the room the whole on Watson's situation, did you
Speaker 3: want him? I mean, you knew what you knew was
Speaker 3: gonna be complex for you as a coach puts a
Speaker 3: lot of pressure on you. But the nature of it
Speaker 3: was it just foisted upon you? Or was this something
Speaker 3: that you were all on yourself?
Speaker 2: You know, now's an awkward time to say what really happened.
Speaker 2: But no, his ownership. I am just I'm just a
Speaker 2: peon here. And uh, I don't know if Andrew Berry
Speaker 2: really wanted him. I don't know if I really want to.
Speaker 2: I'm just having to make it work, like every coach
Speaker 2: has had to try to do, uh for these Browns
Speaker 2: owners for the last thirty years. I feel for our fans, coach.
Speaker 2: You're a big around the NFL fan. I know, yes,
Speaker 2: I remember Mark my dog, my dog Mark with a
Speaker 2: C when he put my picture next to Georgia Clooney's
Speaker 2: picture in a in a shot on a NFL now
Speaker 2: or some show. It was when I was peeking in
Speaker 2: the whole, like I made Baker look like a real
Speaker 2: guy for a while.
Speaker 1: But did you hear the episode where Mark Sessler said
Speaker 1: it Bill Belichick replaced you as head coach he might
Speaker 1: come back to the fandom. How does that strike you?
Speaker 2: I don't believe that. I mean I believe it, but
Speaker 2: I believe if I win ten or eleven games, Mark
Speaker 2: is going to be right there with us. He can
Speaker 2: pretend whatever he wants. Like some of those Browns fans
Speaker 2: out there, if I deliver a winner, they'll all be back.
Speaker 1: Mark. You anything to say to that?
Speaker 4: You got a great beard? Always admired it. What's setting?
Speaker 1: Do you like?
Speaker 2: The beard?
Speaker 4: Trimmer?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: What's setting?
Speaker 1: Do you use? What last one?
Speaker 6: For?
Speaker 1: Coach? Guys?
Speaker 2: Now? Please please three and a half on the beard,
Speaker 2: four and a half in the mustache.
Speaker 1: I like that to be a little fuller, a little
Speaker 1: curthier mustache. All right, final presser, Mark cecler Oh that's it.
Speaker 1: They can count well more. I mean we could do
Speaker 1: another round. Oh what do you think er actually do
Speaker 1: another round?
Speaker 2: Or maybe even one more?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: That's a good, good good translation. What is when the
Speaker 1: producer says that one?
Speaker 2: Now I got the Zaddy ew.
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys coach Mike.
Speaker 1: McCarthy in the opening comments from Zad, great to be.
Speaker 4: Here, we're here in Oxnard.
Speaker 3: It's always it's a it's a great Cowboys tradition to
Speaker 3: travel out here to California. Uh, we have high hopes.
Speaker 3: We have high hopes. I'm not gonna shield that from anyone.
Speaker 3: Our expectations are not just the playoffs, but multiple playoff wins,
Speaker 3: super Bowl birth to bring Jerry Jones another beautiful Super
Speaker 3: Bowl trophy?
Speaker 2: Do you worry it's all about you right now, Mike
Speaker 2: McCarthy that it seems like a lot of the focus
Speaker 2: is on you taking the play calling, your desire to
Speaker 2: have a little more fun as it could, your your
Speaker 2: desire to go deep, throw the ball deep in the
Speaker 2: league where they're really kind of taking away the deep ball.
Speaker 2: It seems like it's a lot about you this week.
Speaker 4: I have nothing related to worry. I made the decisions
Speaker 4: that I made.
Speaker 3: We moved on from our last play caller because I
Speaker 3: was brought here to uh revolutionize this offense.
Speaker 2: You will you will not forget that.
Speaker 3: I had that sabbatical year where I went away and
Speaker 3: took a look at the league in general, and they
Speaker 3: thought that I was becoming a predictable play caller. But
Speaker 3: I've I've done a lot of self work and I'm
Speaker 3: ready to show that to America and Europe and all
Speaker 3: the countries beyond come September.
Speaker 2: Well, that famous feature you did with Tom pelisera the
Speaker 2: pell Raiser, the pell Raiser whe you showed that you
Speaker 2: got a PFF ultimate subscription. Do you keep do you
Speaker 2: keep in touch with him?
Speaker 3: The pell Raiser obviously is one of the reasons that
Speaker 3: I got back into the league. That that feature that
Speaker 3: was included both on NFL dot Com and there was
Speaker 3: a video FEATURETTE attached to it as well, was massive
Speaker 3: for my career. And so yes, the pell Raiser and
Speaker 3: I will talk, we'll text here and there a dynamic,
Speaker 3: invigorating character.
Speaker 1: Let's be real, coach your offense. Although it was productive,
Speaker 1: they still got rid of the OC. Now you're in charge,
Speaker 1: and there's a little bit of a lack of explosiveness
Speaker 1: in the playmaker department. A pass catcher. Let's see your
Speaker 1: tight end room includes Jake Ferguson, a former fourth round pick.
Speaker 1: A man named Luke Schoenmaker is also high up in
Speaker 1: the depth chart. And then you look at who's the
Speaker 1: big wide receiver. Splash Brandon Cooks, who looked like potentially
Speaker 1: a thirty year old receiver. He's going to be in
Speaker 1: September in decline in his final year. It was with
Speaker 1: year with Houston, did you actually sneaky not do enough?
Speaker 1: And now you're banking on Brandon Cooks to be a
Speaker 1: bounced back player. You're banking on Michael galp to be
Speaker 1: healthy and effective. You're gambling that the tight end position
Speaker 1: will solve itself, and then almost putting again everything on
Speaker 1: CD Lamb and Dak press.
Speaker 2: Let a little thin at running back too after Paul.
Speaker 3: It's a fair question, but the Dallas Cowboys don't self analyze.
Speaker 4: We don't self scout. We just simply don't.
Speaker 3: We simply believe that we're gonna win thirteen or fourteen games.
Speaker 3: Sometimes we don't do the work attached to that. But yeah,
Speaker 3: this is very little self doubt.
Speaker 1: All right, there's the headline, McCarthy. Sometimes we don't do
Speaker 1: the work, got it? What is your ideal? You know,
Speaker 1: let's say you have a Thursday night game and now
Speaker 1: a couple of days off. Saturday night you're back home.
Speaker 1: What's your ideal Saturday night?
Speaker 3: I like to take the uh, the wife sometimes the
Speaker 3: kids out for a large steak dinner, maybe go see
Speaker 3: a show, go to go to a piano bar uh,
Speaker 3: listen to some tunes, make some requests. I like to
Speaker 3: request the songs myself.
Speaker 2: How do you get the state? Yeah, well no, I'm
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: I like some some blood in there. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wife not so much. She's she's gonna go.
Speaker 1: She likes it well cooked, and you give her whatever
Speaker 1: she wants. You take care of it. I That's what
Speaker 1: I do. That's what a Zaddy does.
Speaker 4: That's what Zaddy does.
Speaker 2: Why don't you just bring back Zeke here? You know
Speaker 2: you don't have any running back? Well last one for Zaddy?
Speaker 2: I mean McCarthy.
Speaker 3: We uh, you know there is a situation cooking in
Speaker 3: the middle of our country in Indianapolis that we're monitoring.
Speaker 1: Hmmm. Interesting like that. That's that's a nice dog. That's
Speaker 1: a headline.
Speaker 2: Finally broke.
Speaker 1: Well, you're not allowed to do that though, really right
Speaker 1: what I could be under contract?
Speaker 3: I could be referring to anything I think we there's
Speaker 3: a subtext.
Speaker 2: All news is good news in Dallas? Where's my pr guy?
Speaker 2: Dare we do one more?
Speaker 1: Mark?
Speaker 2: One more? All right?
Speaker 1: Last one?
Speaker 4: You could do one more?
Speaker 2: Last one?
Speaker 1: It feels like a mistake.
Speaker 4: People can turn it off if they wish.
Speaker 1: Ah, everybody, It's me Forever young himself, Pete Carroll Chune
Speaker 1: my gum and loving life. Dev Hansas thinks I'm handsome
Speaker 1: and I feel like I have solidified myself once more
Speaker 1: in this organization. So I'm good.
Speaker 2: What do you? What's it? What's your secret?
Speaker 1: Coach? I go for a walk every morning, I drink
Speaker 1: the Blood of the Innocent, and and I I do
Speaker 1: crossword puzzles.
Speaker 2: Did you uh this whole Geno thing like it? It
Speaker 2: was fun that it actually happened. Do you do you like, really,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, do you really believe in it?
Speaker 1: I don't believe in it. Oh. I was surprised, as
Speaker 1: everybody was, by the amount of success that Gino had.
Speaker 1: And you know, but you look at the splits and
Speaker 1: he did decline as I expected in the back end
Speaker 1: of the season. And that's kind of the version of
Speaker 1: Geno I expect going forward.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I understand we gave him the contract. That was good
Speaker 1: pr for us and a bit of a you know,
Speaker 1: at a boy and slap on the back for Geno.
Speaker 1: But I'm not expecting big things. I would say about
Speaker 1: an eighty five passer rating with roughly the same amount
Speaker 1: of touchdowns as in it.
Speaker 2: Are you aware that Gino I think, finished tenth in
Speaker 2: the around the NFL Quarterback power rankings when Dan Hansis
Speaker 2: was not involved in the rankings themselves.
Speaker 1: Well, Dan Hanss does amazing work in the power rankings.
Speaker 2: But into the season, are.
Speaker 1: You hearing the QB index or now?
Speaker 2: Now we did a little rankings, little off season rankings
Speaker 2: while Dan was on vacation.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't. I don't listen to those episodes. I
Speaker 1: listened to the Dan episodes.
Speaker 3: Digging in on the Geno thing. Your thoughts, let's circle back.
Speaker 3: What your thoughts on nine to eleven?
Speaker 2: Can you?
Speaker 4: Oh, can you clarify your nine to eleven?
Speaker 2: Aren't they almost all?
Speaker 1: Dan? You know what? I feel that you could check
Speaker 1: the record, just you know, jeff Yuel do some research
Speaker 1: on the football.
Speaker 2: Guys. Please for Pete, thank you, thank you. You're going
Speaker 2: to bring in Jordan Peterson as a team speaker again.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember that.
Speaker 1: Is that the guy that murdered his white No? No, no, okay,
Speaker 1: anything else, you guys, last one for Pete?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 1: Please God, You're good? All right? Thanks guys, you had
Speaker 1: to do the last one and now we're all going down.
Speaker 4: It's our final episode.
Speaker 1: It's been great ride ten season and one doomed off season. No,
Speaker 1: that was fun. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: I liked it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good. Now. It got us outside of comfort
Speaker 1: zone a little bit there. But I thought Mark, especially you,
Speaker 1: you shined.
Speaker 4: It's really only about us enjoying it. I mean, it
Speaker 4: has nothing to do with anyone else.
Speaker 2: We'll hear the listeners, let us know, let us know.
Speaker 1: Be honest. Oh, I'm sure you will be all right.
Speaker 1: So that's our Wednesday show. We'll be back Thursday. A
Speaker 1: little bit of housekeeping. I mentioned the Hard Knocks podcast
Speaker 1: that we'll be dropping on Friday, I believe, and then
Speaker 1: every Tuesday. We're also speaking of Mike McCarthy, we're going
Speaker 1: to Cowboys camp up in Oxnard on Monday, So the
Speaker 1: Monday episode of Around the NFL will be a road
Speaker 1: show that should be fun.
Speaker 3: Can't wait. That's that is about. I mean, we're checking
Speaker 3: drive times. It's about an hour and forty minutes from
Speaker 3: from where we live.
Speaker 2: If you're if you're in the LA area and have
Speaker 2: never been up to ox nerd no one, no one
Speaker 2: does it like the Cowboys they got like five different
Speaker 2: radio stations. They've got like a whole like super Bowl
Speaker 2: radio row for freaking training camp. And they're a team
Speaker 2: from Dallas. That's in Los Angeles. There's one hundred people there,
Speaker 2: there's thousands of fans, doesn't matter what day it is.
Speaker 2: It's wild wild. Why are they there again? I don't
Speaker 2: know who knows? It's cooler.
Speaker 1: I look forward to it. I've never been. I've been
Speaker 1: up toalk snuded before, but never for Cowboys. Camp be
Speaker 1: fun in this way, so it's gonna be fun. And
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll talk to a couple of players up there,
Speaker 1: maybe a coach and maybe a Zaddi drops by. Probably not,
Speaker 1: but that would be nice.
Speaker 4: I would love to see you and Mike McCarthy encounter
Speaker 4: each other.
Speaker 1: It would be good to just debrief him sure on
Speaker 1: some things that have been going on.
Speaker 4: I think he'd like your viewpoint. It's very positive towards.
Speaker 1: All right. That's it. Dan has a signing off for
Speaker 1: Quiet Stormy old boss Eric Roberts. Good job moderating pressers.
Speaker 1: That's what you gotta do. It's producer work. Hear the
Speaker 1: car