1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: My guests is Sean Berry. He is defiled and CEO 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: of the Metro Sports and Entertainment Group Metro e Sports. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: The sports industry at this point annually is exceeding three 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: billion dollars. The Metro Metro Sports and Entertainment Group, which 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: we like to call Metro e Sports, is a technology 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: based based in Philadelphia, education media and custom e sports 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: event management company committed to attracting, engaging, entertaining, and educating 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: a broad and diverse group of expiring gaming and technology enthusiasts. 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Sean has specialized in creating high profile and high value 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: nationally televised custom sports event applied to content. Because you 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: know now she's all the streamings out there, everybody won't content? 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: Please work with the money making conversation master class, the 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 1: one and only out of Philadelphia. He's a happy man 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: this weekend. We'll find out next weekend. Sean Berry, how 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: are you doing, sir? Good morning? How do you know? 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: You know when you see the Philadelphia we're talking about 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: only one philip Offer team right there. The Eagles were 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: talking about the seventies sixers. We talk about the Phillies. 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: Will talk about one fill it upfer team right now 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: as the Eagles feeling good in Philly right now, huh Man, 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: Philly special bro Philly got hard Philly. It's a whole 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: vibe to it. Well, Well, the great thing about it, 23 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: I've interviewed a lot of Uh I said, when you 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: say diverged, when I say diverse, I'm talking about from 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: the financial I'm talking abou African American people of color, 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: people from the entertainment spectrum, people from the novel e 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: sports section. Now I'm speaking to you. I have a 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: daughter who just graduated from University Houston, Magnacole Laudi gaming 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: designs media marketing because she wants to go in this field. Now, 30 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: is there a place for a young female to make 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: her mark in the gaming industry? Man? Absolutely? I mean 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, first of all, as a whole, it's an 33 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: industry that, um, it makes a ton of money. You know, 34 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: three billion dollars. Like you said, it's growing. I don't. 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: I think it grew something close to through the pandemic. Um. 36 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: You of all, people play games, um, but we as 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: a people, I'm talking about people of color over index 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: as consumers. And so when you think about an industry 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: making that much money, um, they've got to be responsible 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: in finding ways and opportunities for the people that are 41 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: giving them the money to participate in the industry. And 42 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: so you know, females of color, males of color, UM, 43 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: but women in specific have so many opportunities now that 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: weren't afforded and need to do more. And now with 45 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: that being saying, how did you get into the business. 46 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: You know I always be Philly based. Well it's it's crazy. 47 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: So I'm from Philadelphia, so I was. I come from 48 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: the traditional sports world. I don't come from E sports 49 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: or gaming and none of that. I played college football 50 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: at University of Pittsburgh, wasn't good enough to play in 51 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: the league. UM. Spent years in corporate America, and I 52 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: started a sports event and media company UM. And what 53 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: I was doing was I was essentially traveling the country, 54 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: identifying the top young athletes in every major market and 55 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: creating showcase events. That platform grew I think three years. 56 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: I ended up being title sponsored by the United States 57 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: Marine Corps and I created a Bowl game that ran 58 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: on ESPN for I don't know six years. UM. So 59 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: if you can think back Todd Gurley, Jared Golf, the 60 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: Forest Buckaneer, a lot of the pros and stars you 61 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: see shining in the NFL today where part of my 62 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: scouting network of uh, you know, trying of traveling the 63 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: country and then you know, creating this all American game 64 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: on ESPN. Uh And I made the conversion from traditional sports, 65 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: if you would, to E sports. When somebody called me 66 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: and said, hey, listen, are you still doing the sports events? 67 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: And I know what the head BA was talking about, 68 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: and they met me getting a bunch of xboxes and 69 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: PlayStations and bringing them to my sporting events. Well, I 70 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: I love the fact that so I had asked you something, 71 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: you didn't say the word no. You you you you 72 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: gather the information and found out the value of that request. 73 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: Talk about that moment, because a lot of people would say, no, 74 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: that's not my area of expertise. Why didn't you just 75 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: okay that you're knocking on the wrong door. Statement that 76 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: is that may be the best question I've ever had, 77 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: because it may be the most meaningful. When I got 78 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: the call and I told you I didn't I literally responded, 79 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't 80 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: know what the sports is because of the volume. Now, 81 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: the call that I got was from the president of 82 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: a U Sports. If you're familiar with a U Sports, 83 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: hey you basketball, AU baseball, football. They've got an alumni 84 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: network of two or three million people. So when the 85 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: president of an organization of three million people called you 86 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: and asked you if you do something, my first thought was, 87 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: do your due diligence. Make sure before you say no 88 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: that you know what you're saying no to. UH. And 89 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: so I started to research and try to understand the industry. 90 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: And you know, I think anybody, particularly an investment community 91 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: that's looked, you know e sports, is this jugger not 92 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: market right. So there's all this rapid growth, it's worth 93 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: three billion dollars now. But what a lot of people 94 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: don't realize, and the thing that motivated me kind of 95 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: internally is the African Americans and Latinos make up of 96 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: the video game consumer. One of every urban household has 97 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: either an Xbox or a PlayStation. And then I found that, 98 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: um he researched to a study and found that African 99 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: American teams spend more hours gaming per week, almost nine 100 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: hours a week than any other ethnicity by over an hour. 101 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: And so what that said to me was there's an 102 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 1: opportunity if you can organically and authentically reach our folks 103 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: and share with them the benefits of this industry. There's 104 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: a real opportunity here. Well, here's just just education. Could 105 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: I hear things like Fortnite? Uh here with Travis gott 106 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: get involved. I hear that he goes on there and 107 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: makes you know, four or five million dollars selling skins. 108 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: Uh that like these are just digital skins that you 109 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: can't take them with you. They just think that you 110 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: buy online and the people are purchasing. Break down why 111 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: celebrities are going to it like a Travis CAUs he's 112 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: just on the one name them pulling out and and 113 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: how are celebrities making money? And when I'm talking about 114 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: the word skins, what are we talking about? So I 115 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 1: can educate my audience and also educate me more. Yeah, 116 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: I mean, so let's go back right. So, anytime you 117 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: look at a video game and you look at a 118 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: character in the video game, what they're wearing, you know, 119 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: what their attires or what they look like as a skin, 120 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: and you can change that. You know. So if I'm 121 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: playing a game and you know my you know, Timberland 122 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: puts in X amount of dollars, I can make sure 123 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: that my character is wearing Timberland boots or a Gucci sweatsuit, 124 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, right, And so so you buy that, you 125 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: buy that exactly, and you get to change the look 126 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: of the character and you control kind of what that 127 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: character looks like. It it appears like UM. But to 128 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: your question about making money, you know, it's a very 129 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: interesting UM dynamic if you think about it from a 130 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: traditional sports perspective. If if you rushan own a stadium, right, 131 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: and let's say that you own the Link in Philadelphia, 132 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: I think it holds fifty six people, right, you can 133 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: charge sixty people a hundred dollars a ticket, right, and 134 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: that's how you make your money. But when you own 135 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: a digital stadium, you can host sixty million people and 136 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: charge them a hundred dollars a ticket. And so when 137 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: you think about the money, it is the expansion into 138 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: the digital atmosphere right into to web three, into into 139 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: a universe of folks where I can reach somebody in 140 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: Africa and Asia and South America and American they can 141 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: be a part of my consumer audience. Right, And so 142 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: the opportunity UM comes in, you know, event participation, UH competition, 143 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: and then brand representation We'll be right back with more 144 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: money Making Conversations master Class with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's 145 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: return to money Making Conversations master Class with Rashan McDonald of. 146 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: Speaking of Sean Barry, he's defied the CEO of the 147 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: Metro Sports and Entertainment group he's based out of Philadelphia, 148 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: Metro E Sports. When I when I your personal color, 149 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: and we all know this industry the white the white humor, 150 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: like you say, we over index, but the white consumer 151 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: has the voice. How does a person of color being 152 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: you become a player a voice in this industry. Well, 153 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: we're trying to working on it, right, So I am. 154 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: I am diligently working on it because I know something. 155 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: And what I know is that the value of an 156 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: authentic integration of culture is worth a heck of a 157 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: lot of money. Because I understand that you know, and 158 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: you've heard I'm sure of the three X effect. Right, 159 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: anything that you add our culture too, it becomes instantly 160 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: worth three times more. So when I looked at this 161 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: industry and I said, hey, listen, I know there's a 162 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: lack of diversity. I know that less than two of 163 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: all the leadership in the industry, whether it's vps or UH, 164 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: professional gamers or game developers are people of color. UM 165 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: and I know that we over index as consumers. There 166 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: is a should be if there's not invested interest in 167 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: the investment of our participation and our integration brands UM 168 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: and by strategic partners UH and by companies who benefit 169 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: from our over indexing if you would, well, you know 170 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: the thing is like I said, you go Joe Boby Shop. 171 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: You've got brothers in there, you know, just costing plane. 172 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: You always talk about athletes. Athletes actually play these games. 173 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: So so now when you talk about your brand, you 174 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: know Metro E Sports, are you do use brand ambassadors? 175 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: Are you using social media? How are you maintaining your 176 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: footprint to stay in front of competition? Yeah, so you know, 177 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: what we're trying to do first is be different than 178 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: everybody else, right, and so the way that we do 179 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: that is we have brick and water locations. So I 180 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: partnered with Horizon, my partner with Logitech. I partnered with Microsoft, 181 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: and we build in the communities, right and so UM 182 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: we are building when the process right now the thirty 183 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: thou square foot facility in Washington, d C. We are 184 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: building on campus at Lincoln University as we speak, their 185 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: first gaming lab and content creation studio. We have rebuilds 186 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: going on simultaneously in the Philadelphia area. And what that 187 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: allows me to do is to engage a market from 188 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: a local and regional perspective relative to live events, tournaments, leagues. UM. 189 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: But the other thing that I'm able to do, or 190 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: we're able to do uniquely, is to service school systems. UM. 191 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: So we've partnered with the school district here where UM. 192 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: If you like playing the games, we can teach you 193 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: how to make them. You know, are we have an 194 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: accredited STEM program UH. And so one of the things 195 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: that I try to always make sure that we do 196 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: is to attach the benefit to the participation. Right. So 197 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: if you like the game, if you like playing the game, 198 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: we can teach you how to make it. UH. If 199 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: you want to get certified and graphic design or coding 200 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: or programming, UM, you know, we have an opportunity to 201 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: teach you that and equip you with those skills. And Richan, 202 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know this. When you look at the 203 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: tech industry. One of the things that's happening right now 204 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: unlike any other time in our history, is they don't 205 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: require college degrees in order to gain game fully employed. 206 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: And so when you think about what that means for 207 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: our um people, right and our can these across the country. 208 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: If you can take a young person that can't afford 209 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: the college to go to college and give them the 210 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: skills or heard the skills that are necessary to compete 211 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: and make a great living in an industry that they 212 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: already enjoy, I think that's worth its weight in gold. Well. 213 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: You know it's that different, you know, because you know 214 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: a number high school Alwold had they loved tech class. 215 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: You go in there teach how to big teach how 216 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: to do carpentry, and teach how to do auto mechanics. 217 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: This is just an advanced version of I always tell 218 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: people life doesn't really the message of life doesn't change. 219 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: It's just the technology changes. And so you're telling me 220 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: right now, Rashane. You know there's always that message to 221 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: go to college, get a degree, and there's always that 222 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: core students that you've always said, you know, you want 223 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: to be a mechanic, we can help you. I want 224 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: to learn how to cooking with so and all of 225 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: those classes that they had in high school, but they 226 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: never replicated the level of income that individuals can make 227 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: with these new jobs that you don't that you can 228 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: educate yourself on the graphic designs, the programming, the the 229 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: the gaming that you couldn't get into today. So when 230 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: you start recruiting, who's coming to you? Is there a 231 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: certain age group? Is like teams coming to you, young 232 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: adults coming to you. Who's coming to you? Well? We 233 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: we we engage literally from eight to eight and I 234 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: mean that. Um, So you know, we get students, We 235 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: get aspiring professional gamers. We get brands that are saying, hey, listen, 236 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: we want to engage the community that you're engaging. Um. 237 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: You know, we get school systems that say, hey, listen, 238 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: we can't afford a computer science department. Come to one 239 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: of your facilities and drop our kids off for an hour, 240 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: work with your instructors, and then bring them back. We 241 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: get pro players that said we need to practice. We 242 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: need a place for our team to practice, or leagues 243 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: that say we need to host a pro event. Can 244 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: you guys host us? So it's a it's a multitude 245 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: of ways. But something you said, I think that was 246 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: so important. You know, my inspiration in this was believe 247 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: it or not? Bob Johnson right. So, when you think 248 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: about when he started black entertainment television, I remember reading 249 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: one of his clues UM and it was talking about 250 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: he was talking about TV in general as a medium 251 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: of entertainment. He was saying, listen, TV is great. TV 252 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: is already doing good. I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel. 253 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to add a little flavor to it. 254 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: That literally is exactly what I'm trying to do. The 255 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: sports is a billion dollar industry with or without me. 256 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: But I can tell you this much. I can tell 257 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: you that when you add some flavor to something, and 258 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: by flavor I mean us, it only gets better, It 259 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: only gets amplified, It only gets more exciting, and it 260 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: only gets more entertaining. You know that it still becomes, 261 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: like I said, um, a sport that is out there. 262 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: You know, you see television ESPN especially tries to engage 263 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: some type of digital format. You see the three D 264 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: behind the scenes technology. You know, when you start looking 265 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: at it today, it's at the forefront. That's where STEM 266 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: comes into place so strong in your conversation with young 267 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: African Americans, do you do a lot of seminars or 268 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: speaking engagements to youth or young adults about this them 269 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: revelation and also hired applies to what you're doing in 270 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: the sports. Well, I tell you what we we we 271 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: we do that to adults more um that we have 272 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: with young people because they're the ones that need to understand, 273 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, our parents that gaming is a waste of time. 274 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: You know, my kid is I can't get them off 275 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: the xpacts, I can't get them off the PlayStation. Yeah 276 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: that's cool. You you know, you want to have balance 277 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: and everything you do. But what you want to do 278 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: and I would challenge you, what do you think is 279 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: going to be more exciting to a kid to say 280 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: to him, hey, listen, we have the STEM class we 281 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: want to send you to, or if you Italian, say 282 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: to them or her, hey you want to go make 283 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: a video game. It's the same thing you're doing exactly 284 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: the same thing. It's the same skills, it's the same tools. 285 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: It's about meeting them where they are and engaging them 286 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: in a way that's that's palpable and exciting and fun. 287 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: And that's what we try to do, whether we're working 288 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: with school systems, you know, or leadership to infuse this 289 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: type of you know, kind of educational model, lean into 290 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: what they already loved and engage them from there. That's 291 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: really really the kid and speaking the shot Berries the 292 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: CEO and founder of Metro Sports and Entertainment Group, former 293 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: football player in the University of Pittsburgh, Cornell Universe, Cornell 294 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: School of Management. Uh. When I when I say those titles, 295 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: when it's all about I bring that up to let 296 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: people know that sometimes you can't skip steps. Okay, well, 297 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, going to Cornell, get that additional academic training 298 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: and management, going to university's uh Pittsburgh. Being a football player, 299 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: that lad, you gave you a certain degree of discipline, correct, 300 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: So how does that play out into what you're doing 301 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: every day managing your staff. Let's start with the University 302 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh, that football mentality, showing up for practice, you know, 303 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: being respectful, uh, consistency when they owned snap counts and blocks. Yeah, 304 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: whichan you know, my answer is not gonna be what 305 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: you think it is, but it very much showed up. 306 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you how when I went to the 307 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: Unversity of Pittsburgh. Now, I come from a family of 308 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: ball players, Okay, I were six different professional athletes my family. 309 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: Much like many folks in the African American community. In 310 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: my mind, sports was the only way I thought I 311 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: was going to the league, probably since I was six 312 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: years old, and it didn't dawn on me even through 313 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: college that I wasn't good enough to go, and so 314 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: I didn't have a plan B. So when you asked 315 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: me how it shows up when I look at the sports, 316 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: I think about all the young people who were either 317 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: like me, just not physically blessed enough, or who may 318 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: have been misled because mom or dad always wanted you 319 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: to be a pro or wanted to see you go 320 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: pro or be an athlete. And the way it showed 321 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: up was, no, this is the plan big. I already 322 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: know that um young kids like to play video games. 323 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: But what I want to do is for those young 324 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: people that that you know, if you're five nine pounds, 325 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: maybe the NFL or the NBA ain't for you, but 326 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you couldn't be very successful here. And 327 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: so the way that it shows up for me is 328 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: it's it's it's the humility of understanding that God has 329 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: given people different talents and for different things, and here's 330 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: an avenue in a way to express those talents and 331 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: and and and leverage, you know, the best version of yourself. 332 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 333 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money Making Conversations 334 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Well, you know, the best version 335 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: is always people believe in you. And also the fact 336 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: that people were questioning you, okay and doubt you, especially 337 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: like I said, nobody, especially when you had a certain 338 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: generation mark when you said playing on those video games 339 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: ball you can't make no money or good, you can't 340 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: make your money. You wasting your time because like I said, 341 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: I've always had video games in my life, but I 342 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: didn't have that skill level. I couldn't do what I 343 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: couldn't do what y'all are doing out there, man with 344 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: both fingers and both thumbs and people flipping and especially 345 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: when you get into these combat, these combat video games. 346 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: I don't really understand how y'all are doing all that stuff. 347 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: And it's amazing to me because that's a gift that 348 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: everybody has. How do players money in the industry, because 349 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: that's what that's you know, you kind of like behind 350 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: the scenes, you put the event on, you set up 351 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: the event, you promote the event. But the stars are 352 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: these individuals in front of it? How in the African 353 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: American community, of the community of color, are the age 354 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: starting to get in front of the mix? Yeah, I mean, listen, 355 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: you know it is not unlike traditional sports. You have 356 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: got to practice and and the common denominator of exceptional 357 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: gamers pro gamers gamers that win tournaments, UM, gamers that 358 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: win you know, there's a handful of gamers that win 359 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: six seven figures, uh, you know a year and joined 360 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: teams that you know allow for an incredible amount of revenue. 361 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: But the common denominator is the discipline of practice, UM 362 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: and how much work they put into the burnout age? 363 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: Is that burnout age? Man? You know, there's definitely burnt 364 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: out um. You know that. But the age is range. Man, 365 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: We'll see you know, kids that are escepsionally talented sixteen 366 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: and some of that are essionally talented thirty six. Right, 367 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: So you know, I think everybody's got a level of tolerance. 368 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: But but the thing that's so awesome about this industry 369 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: is there's so many different pathways. You don't have to 370 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: be just a gamer. You know, you mentioned your daughter 371 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: graphic design. You know, you can take somebody who has 372 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: no math science skill, somebody who has no ability to 373 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: play video games at a high level, somebody that has 374 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: no graphic design or art skill, and they have a 375 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: great personality and they can be a broadcast engineer, right right, right, So, 376 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: and that's what I love about it is, Man, there's 377 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: five six, seven pass It doesn't have to be one. 378 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: You can find out what works for you. Right And 379 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: my introduction, I said, you know you're committed to attracting, engaging, entertaining, 380 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: and educating you know, individuals in the world of gaming 381 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: and technology, especially enthusiasts. What about the non enthusiast person. 382 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: How you trying to reach that person, because that's that's 383 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: once they get then everybody coming over the hill, everybody 384 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: coming over the hire. So so we're doing a lot 385 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: of things that are really community focused and community based 386 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: and that is just aiding exposure and access. So we 387 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: partner with the Department of Health and Human Services working 388 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: on a project right now with the Philadelphia DA's office 389 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: to just try to find a time to host gaming 390 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: tournaments that happened to occur during peak crime times to 391 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: be trying to be dissuative, to try to provide access 392 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: and and interest. We're working on a project with with 393 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey um and And and the young boys that 394 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: he works with the building a gaming lab um down 395 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, being able to you know, to offer these 396 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: different pathways. We're working with Industrial Industrial Bank out of 397 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: d C, which is the oldest black bank UH in Washington, 398 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: d C about providing, you know, tech based and academic 399 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 1: based opportunities to folks that are just completely unaware. Uh 400 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: and So it's it's really about awareness and access and 401 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: then you know you can kind of help, you know, 402 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: point point the right direction. All I know is that 403 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: when I look at an individual like you, I um, 404 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: I like you said, I have a degree in math 405 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: but minor sociology, went to work for IBM. Know I'm 406 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: that enthusiast, but I can't participate. But I respect and 407 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: understand there is an industry out there that it's blowing up, 408 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: like it said, three billion plus and like you said 409 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: earlier in your interview Rose during the pandemic, it's not 410 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: going anywhere because of the fact that people are working 411 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: remote and there's a world or you know, we just 412 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: used the word warriorism long time ago. I don't think 413 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: the word applies now because the warriorism meant that you 414 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: were just observing. Now we're talking about people actually physically 415 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: participating in worldwide events. Do you host any of these events? Yeah, 416 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: we will be hosting collegiate events, you know, A partnered 417 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: with obviously were on campus at Lincoln University, but were 418 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: partnered with the c I Double A and some different 419 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: collegiate leagues to host kind of larger events. We're working 420 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: on some Eastern region events. Uh. You know, but you 421 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: have to remember, like for us, it's new in the 422 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: sense that you know, black people have not traditionally participated 423 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: in the sport, right, And I'm gonna keep it a 424 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: buck with you. We're not entirely welcome all the time, right, 425 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: So sometimes we're riting into doors and sometimes we're kicking 426 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: them down. I'm fortunate, uh you know partners at Verizon, 427 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: uh and Logitech and and Microsoft that that care about 428 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: the diversity of the participant um because without those folks 429 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: that the door would be double double locked and uh, 430 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, with a with a bar on the door. 431 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: So we're you know, we're working to you know, to 432 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: continue to make strikes to integrate and and involve US 433 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: and across the multitude of levels. Well, again, I appreciate 434 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: you taking the time. It's all about the education for me, 435 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, because of the fact that I sit back 436 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: and realized that, you know, I was one of those 437 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: game enthusiasms. As I got over, I got away from it, 438 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: but still from afar went wild. This is special. I 439 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: remember when I was in college, you know, Management information system. 440 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: That's where the guy told me, if you want to 441 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: if you want to get a degree, get a degree 442 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: in m i s. Which is managing data. And you know, 443 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: forty years later he was absolutely correct. That's all we're 444 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: doing now. Then, Sean is managing and data and and 445 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: and and and recompile, putting it back there in the 446 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: in the mainstream so they can participate and enjoy. But 447 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: more important, brother out of Philadelphia, sitting in the green 448 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: room doing this thing change in the world. Any part 449 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: thoughts on what you're trying to do at Metro E Sports. Yeah, 450 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think at the end of the day, 451 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: my hope is that you know, we're able to create 452 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: an ecosystem, right, I think one of the most difficult 453 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: things to find in the world, let alone the United States, 454 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: is multicultural tech talent. That's talent pool, right, and so 455 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: what I'm hoping is that we can leverage kind of 456 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: the viral popularity of gaming and build our own talent pool. 457 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: Well congratulations, I'll be right there with you. So, So, 458 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: if my daughter wants to be a part of this 459 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: engaging group that she said Richan, I got it, Dad, 460 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: I got it, Dad. How does an individual like that 461 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: are you recruiting people? Are are you just saying that, hey, 462 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: ra Sean is a platform out there, You find us 463 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: and then we'll get back to you. How does it 464 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: we're actively recruiting. Okay, if she wants to buy me 465 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: an Eagles Jersey certainly can help. I got that for you, brother, 466 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: I go, I got that for you. They gonna get 467 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: an interview. I got that real talk. We are hiring 468 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: because we're growing, As I said, we We've got two 469 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: locations that we're growing with in d c um three 470 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: more locations here in Philadelphia. I'm working on a project 471 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and hopefully one internationally and Ghana. So, um, 472 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, I would encourage anyone that wants to to 473 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: to to join this industry. Um. You know, there's there's 474 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: a multitude of talents. As I told you, I didn't 475 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: have none of your background. Didn't have the math or 476 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: science or academic talent quite frankly to be in any 477 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: of it. Um. So you know your background. If there 478 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: is a love and an interest in kind of what 479 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: the sport does or what it means, I'm sure we 480 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: can find a spot for you. I want to thank 481 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: Sean Barry, the founder and CEO or Metro E Sports 482 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 1: and Entertainment. Like you just told you, you you know d 483 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: C Los Angeles, Ghana were importantly he's based in Philadelphia. 484 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: We talked to it. I really appreciate you taking the 485 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: time to coming on Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Well, thank 486 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: you so much for a time we talked so pretty 487 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: hitch all right now