1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: What's up everybody walking to Move the Sticks presented by 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Zaxby's DJ. Bucky Back with you, Buck, How you doing man? Man? 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: I am great man. This is a big time weekend 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: even with all the COVID cancelations in college, here's some 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: big games on the horizon. And then this weekend in 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: terms of the NFL game, it's uh winn to go 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: home for some of these teams, Like it is must 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: win weekend and that should be a lot of fun. Yeah, 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: we got a fun episode today to We're gonna talk 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: about the top five of the draft, what it would 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: look like right now, what we see, Uh, there is 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: some potential storylines to keep an eye on. We'll touch 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: a little bit on some of these other quarterback situations 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: around the league. We want to hit that as well. 16 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: But Buck, I mean, I'm I'm sitting here and I'm 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: going like sometimes you have to say, we got a 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: pretty good gig man like this this this week. So 19 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: we're doing these Amazon games as well as what we 20 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: do at NFL Network. So we got a two for 21 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: this week because we had a Tuesday game with the 22 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys in the ravens now. We turn around Thursday night 23 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: and we've got another one here. Uh, keeping an eye 24 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: on that, which is a great game with the Patriots 25 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: and the Rams. I've got charger games on each side. 26 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: So the weekends that this is a four games and 27 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: seven days for me. Buck Uh. I got so many 28 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: teams dancing around in my head right now, I'm gonna 29 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: say this. And I know some people worry about saturation. 30 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: I kind of like the Tuesday football day did I 31 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: did too? I kind of like the Tuesday football I 32 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,279 Speaker 1: don't know how you how you do it going forward? 33 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: Like the Tuesday Sunday thing I think is probably hard, um, 34 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: but I do wonder how you do it going forward. 35 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: But then, like I'll be honest, I like Tuesday better 36 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: than Thursday. I mean for you to say that, but 37 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: I actually like it better than Thursday because it feels 38 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: it kind of completes the week. Where's Thursday's out in 39 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: the island kind of like at all out by itself 40 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: because there's nothing, there's nothing behind it. But I do 41 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: wonder schedule, when you like, when you go from a Tuesday, 42 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: is it unfair to the teams that are playing on Tuesday, 43 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: they didn't turning around and play on Sunday. Um. I also, 44 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna admit I like the one day doubleheader. I mean, 45 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: I kind of like the leading game before the Monday 46 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: night game. So I think there's a lot to discover, 47 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: and I think, obviously in our league we find a 48 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: way to slice it off and profit that. I think 49 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: when you look at the numbers, because the ratings have 50 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: been tremendous and I don't know everyone is at home, 51 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: but I think there's a lot of all the other 52 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: sports though, yeah, I know that it's a it's a 53 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: lot to consider going forward. Um. All right, let' let's 54 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: jump into this a little bit here because as we 55 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: stand right now, and we'll see, we've got a few 56 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: weeks left in the season, but it looks like this 57 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: top of the draft, we've got Jets, one, Jags too, Bengals, three, Cowboys, four, Chargers, five. 58 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: So we look at this first with a lot of 59 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: different ways we can look at this thing. But let's 60 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: start with this conversation we had. We had this one 61 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: the other night during the game, which was buying stock 62 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: those five teams right now, you can buy stock for 63 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: where they're gonna be let's say, three years from now, 64 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: who would be the number one stock you would buy 65 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: out of those teams three years from now. Well, now 66 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna have a different, different answer because caught 67 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: up guard, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say I would 68 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: go all in on Jacksonville right now. And just because 69 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: of a combination of picks that they have available, uh, 70 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: the amount of salary cap space that they have, and 71 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: depending upon who new new leadership is, someone who knows 72 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: exactly what they're doing, it has a really good plan. 73 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: I think that is an ideal job because you gotta 74 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: drop the quarterback in and you have an opportunity if 75 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: you finish right now at to to get one of 76 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that you want. You drop your young quarterback 77 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: in and you surrounded with talent. I think this is 78 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: one where you can get up and going pretty quickly 79 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: at the right program. That's a good one. Um. I 80 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: want to give you a couple of thoughts here. So 81 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking this up as we go because I was 82 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: curious about this. So I said three years from now, 83 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: because the Chargers is gonna be my pick. Obviously everybody knows, 84 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: like call the game's full disclosure. I mean we're doing both. 85 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: We're both we're both kind of doing the Homer thing 86 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: because I work for the Jaguards. You didn't even tell 87 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: you now, but you see you see those teams, you 88 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: see those TM and so you know the potential that 89 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: exists there. Right So when I'm I'm looking at this 90 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: Charger team and I'm going, Okay, three years from now, 91 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen buck he's been in the league for eight years, 92 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: but Keenan Allen is twenty eight years old. So three 93 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: years from now, he's gonna be thirty one. So he's 94 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: still gonna still gonna be you know, his game is 95 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: not predicated on speed, So I don't think Keenan Allen 96 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: at thirty one is gonna be a lot different than 97 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen at twenty eight. Like there's still he's still 98 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: gonna be a really good player. But the one that's interesting, 99 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: Joey Boss Herbert, I believe, is twenty two right now. 100 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: So these guys are going to be right in their 101 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: prime at your premier positions. And now you can sprinkle 102 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: in around him and hopefully you know you're able to 103 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: keep Derwin James healthy. I mean, that's gonna be the 104 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: big one because he's still really young. So you're gonna 105 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: have all your best players are still right in the 106 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: middle of their prime, and now you're adding in a 107 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: top five pick this year as well as whatever else 108 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: you want to do and in free agency and such. So, UM, 109 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm pretty I think I'm pretty bullish on them. I 110 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: would have them as number one. But I do think 111 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: kind of along the lines you were saying with the 112 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: Jags the Jets, if if they have won one and 113 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: Lawrence is what we think he can be, UM and 114 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: they've got all these extra picks to build in around 115 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: Trevor Trevor Lawrence, I mean that that could be really 116 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: really good group here in three years. Yeah, And I 117 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: think I think that is a rebuild. That's a different rebuild, 118 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: right because I know they have significant cast space, they 119 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: have picks, Um, they have to get the quarterback. But 120 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: I think what you're doing is, because this is a team, 121 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: to the strip, to the studs, I think you have 122 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: to rebuild it the way that we know championship teams 123 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: are built. So I'm thinking strong commendment to building up 124 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: the offensive and defensive lines. Um, making sure that your 125 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: defense can carry because I think in the division is 126 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: really important to have a dominant defense because when you 127 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: look at the Dolphins, you look at the Bills, Uh, 128 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,559 Speaker 1: even with the Patriots, they all play really good defense. 129 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: I don't think you can just be an offensive heavy 130 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: team and catch up on them. And I think stylistically, 131 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: you have to play a certain way in my mind 132 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: in New York to be successful. And I know Rex 133 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: Ryan didn't win and win at a high level there, 134 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: but they went to two an FC championship games. Play 135 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: ain't a style that I think is very reminiscent of 136 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: what Joe Douglas is familiar with in Baltimore. They beat 137 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: you up, they ran the ball, they played great defense, 138 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: they got um I would say opportunistic quarterback play. It 139 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: should be different, maybe because we're going to anticipate Trevor 140 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: Lawrence being a much better player than Mark Sanchez was 141 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: for the Jets. But I do think there's something to 142 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: the grit and grind style that you have to play 143 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: in New York. Um. So let's let's talk about these 144 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: two other teams, because I'm curious about the Bengals and 145 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: what you think about the Bengals in terms of their thing, 146 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: because when I look at the Bengals. What I like 147 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: about the Bengals is you have the young quarterback and 148 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Um he should bounce back from the injury. 149 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: We've seen many players bounce back from a c L 150 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: S and come back and play at even a higher level. 151 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: I like the weapons that they have around him, and 152 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd and Tee Higgins, Joe Mixing, they have that 153 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: they need to pay attention to the offensive line, and 154 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: I think they have picks, and I think they need 155 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: to move on from a J. Green. Uh. I think 156 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of promise there. The problem with the 157 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: Bengals the division that they play in, the division that 158 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: they play in with Baltimore, Pittsburgh, in Cleveland, they don't 159 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: go anywhere. Yeah, they don't get any breaks. So, I mean, 160 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: you talk about having to do a tremendous job of 161 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: rebuilding to just catch up with the teams that are 162 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: already there, very very difficult challenge. It's a hard job, 163 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: all right. So I have our championship checklist that we 164 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: used to go through. So what it was, one quarterback, 165 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: two pass rushers, three offensive playmakers, three defensive playmakers, three 166 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: quality offensive linemen. So when you kind of look at 167 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: it from that standpoint and you kind of go through 168 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: these teams. It's interesting to kind of see where they 169 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: where they are. We've touched on the Bengals, So the 170 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: only other team with the Cowboys. Let you want to 171 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: scrimmage the Cowboys through this one. I think the Cowboys 172 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: is the hardest one to do, see because the Cowboys 173 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: thing is when you're the decision making with the Cowboys, 174 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: you've got to separate your heart from business decisions. And 175 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: when I'm looking at this team, I don't know how 176 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: to improve this team on defense without jettisoning some of 177 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: the old town that they have. I think you have 178 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: to move on from Jalen Smith. You be able a 179 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: big contract, but I think you have to move on. 180 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: Sean Lee finally has to go. You have all the 181 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: Smith and all these other guys that are older. I 182 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: think the way this team has to be built, I 183 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: think you have to pay Dak Prescott and then you 184 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: have to be younger on defense, and you almost have 185 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: to follow what I call the Indianapolis Colts model. The 186 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts have kind of committed to uh playing a 187 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: certain way. They put some money in the defense, with 188 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: the Forest Buckner, but young cheap talent playing in a 189 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: simple scheme that allows you to play young guys. Um. 190 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: I think if your Dallas, you have to go with 191 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: that approach. But the funny thing is dj they just 192 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: had that approach and they blew it up with Jason 193 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: Garre Intianapolis all came from Dallas. I mean, that's what 194 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: they were doing. And so but I think that is 195 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: the right approach. That's how you have to build a team. 196 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: Once you pay the quarterback, you have to change a 197 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: little bit of what you think about when it comes 198 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: to the draft and building up your defense. All right, 199 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: So I'm going through here. So let's say that they 200 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: day and we'll get to the dock conversation here a second. 201 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: But quarterback healthy dock that they're good. They're um pass rushers. 202 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean the Marcus Lawrence has been a little bit 203 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: underwhelming this year. He started to come on in the 204 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: last month or so. But I'm gonna still give him. 205 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: They got one. I mean, they're paying him as such. 206 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think they have another one. They 207 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: could really use an interior guy. Um. So that that's 208 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: a to do list is one pass rusher offensive playmakers. 209 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm ceedee Lamb is definitely part of that 210 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: going forward. You've got one of those, you know, in 211 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: terms of the long term going forward. I don't know 212 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: that I put Zeke in there, but I get there. 213 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: But they're so stuck now because they paid him before 214 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: you can get to the end of his rookie deal. 215 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: So they don't really have a choice unless they just 216 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean bite the poison, feel like, I mean, look, 217 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: we can, we can. Let's let's give him the combination 218 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: there between Zeke and Pollard. That's a playmaker, you know, 219 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: a mixture there. Pollard has got more juice, but so 220 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: I can give him and then and then you've got, uh, 221 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: you've got a Mark Cooper. So I to make a 222 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: case that they've got there, okay, in the offensive playmaker department, 223 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: just for the sake of this discussion. So let's say 224 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: that they're three for three there um, defensive playmakers. That's 225 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: where there's to be done. Zero zero. Who who do 226 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,599 Speaker 1: you hang your hat on there? Nobody? And And the 227 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: problem is this, So there's two ways that you can go. 228 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: If you to Dallas Cowboys, you can go and say 229 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna go all in on offense, and we're gonna 230 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: make our offense so prolific that we're like the kand 231 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: City Chiefs, where we know that when we walk into 232 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: the stadium, we got a thirty spot to work now. 233 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: And so the only way that they can do that 234 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: is they have to pour all their resources back into 235 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: the offensive line, because that offensive line is not what 236 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: people talk about. That checklist is three quality offensive line 237 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: with Zack Martin is still there. Zack Morton Lettle Colleins. 238 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: You gotta move on from Tymer Smith. You gotta get 239 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: a young guy. When you're sitting at four in the draft, 240 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: I'm getting an offensive JACKO. I know people to talk 241 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: about being cute and a you can get one the 242 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: second round. No, I want one of the top guys. 243 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: I want a guy that can sirt and play right away, 244 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: um to to get it done. And even if he 245 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: has to start out a guard or whatever. I need 246 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: to get one because every year since tween, Tyrand Smith 247 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: has been talked about, but he never finishes the season. 248 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: And so you have to get a guy. And so 249 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: if I have a dominant offensive line, like we talked about, 250 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: three studs on the offensive line to playmakers and Coope 251 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: and in Ceedee Lamb. I'm not worried about really resigning 252 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. I think I can find why receiver in 253 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: the draft. At any point I have the running back 254 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: into quarterback. I think that should be good enough to 255 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: get you there, and then you gotta figure out how 256 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: to fix the offense while the offense is rolling. So 257 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: here hear me out on this one. So it's one 258 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: of those things where if you you're gonna have to 259 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: shed some of these contracts, no doubt. But I'm looking 260 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: at this defensive playmaker thing and that's really concerning to me. 261 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: The one that I the one I put in there 262 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: and he's hurt, so we we only played nine games 263 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: is Digs. So at corner, Digs I think has got 264 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: a chance to be a big time playmaker for them 265 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: on the back end. Now he gets he got a 266 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: little out on his hands. He's giving up some plays 267 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: down the field, but he makes plays on the ball, which, man, 268 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: you start sitting there thinking, man, if they had Trevon 269 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: Diggs and they had somehow found a way to kept 270 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: Byron Jones, Like you've got two big, athletic, physical corners, 271 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: you can kind of build that defense around those two guys. 272 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: So I'm looking at it saying, man, if you if 273 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: you could maybe get an offensive lineman and free agency, um, 274 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: you still have a couple other pieces there that if 275 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: everybody's healthy entire even if you don't count on Tyron Smith, 276 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: just keep Zach Martin the other guys healthy, I think 277 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: you can get by there, um and for right now. 278 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: But man, if you could, And I just watched this 279 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: corner J C. Horne and I I love Caleb Farley 280 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: from Virginia Tech. Um, Pat Sir Tan's a good player. 281 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: Uh so man paring up another corner and then you 282 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: have to kind of young, real athletic playmaking corners. Yeah, 283 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: that's something I would consider. As I'm kind of looking 284 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: through this checklist here, buck, I mean, they've got to 285 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: get some more guys on defense. I can make a play. 286 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: They do have to get some more guys on defense. 287 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: I think you would be the thing and in the 288 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: way that we prioritize things, um ranking and I think 289 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: we would do this on draft boards. Would you rather 290 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: have the offensive tackle in this draft or the cornerback? 291 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: Like which one is going to give you more bang 292 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: for your buck? Not only in the short term, but 293 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: in the long term, I think that would be the 294 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: conversation that we would have in the room. And I 295 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: think if it's the same, I think if it's the 296 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: same in tackle because it's an offensive game. Yeah, so 297 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: so I think that's the conversation. But I don't disagree 298 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: with you. I also think they have to have the 299 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: conversation on if they're going to go forward with Mike 300 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: Nolan as the defensive coordinator, then I think it's really 301 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: important that everyone is on the same page because I 302 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: don't know if the coaches drove their off season endeavors 303 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: in terms of the players that they signed and who 304 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: they drafted, or if that was a scout steal. But 305 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: it has to be a better marriage and synergy between 306 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: the players that you have and the scheme that you're 307 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: running um because right now it's flawed. It hasn't worked, 308 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: and we we saw it on Tuesday night like it 309 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: was an epic disaster in terms of their inability to 310 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: stop the run. And they don't have any playmakers, so 311 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: you have to figure out who can they bring in 312 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: to make plays, and typically the guys who make plays 313 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: with the guys that you're taking the top of the board. 314 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: So here here's an interesting one because I'm just looking 315 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: at it's fun. We can we can really do this 316 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: with every team in the league, and maybe we'll do 317 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: that down the line. Um. But if we go back 318 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: up to the Jets who are picking at one, good 319 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: news is they've got a lot of picks. Then they've 320 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: got a lot of cash man, They've got a lot 321 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: of these spots to fill. If you look at the quarterback, 322 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: let's say that you know to pick with the first 323 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: O wall pick is going to solve the quarterback. So 324 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: you've got that one. You're good there. Pass rushers, Quentin 325 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: Williams is turned into that guy. So I think it's 326 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: harder to find the inside pass rusher than it is 327 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: even to find the edge rusher. But they need to 328 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: find it a componary edg rusher. But they got one 329 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: of the two offensive playmakers. I'll give him one. I mean, 330 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: you look at Mims to me, is an offensive playmaker. 331 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: They got they need two more guys. Uh, they're defensive playmakers. 332 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: So when we talk about defensive playmakers, we're talking about 333 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: the second and third level zero. I mean, you're hoping 334 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: Aston Davis, but you can't. You can't say that at 335 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: this point in time. No, I mean, and we're talking 336 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: about playmakers. I think it's important to this thing which 337 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: some people like, oh, he's my favorite players are leading tackler, Like, No, 338 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about a high level all pro slast Pro 339 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: Bowl caliber playmaker. Not Pro Bowl because the fan bols, 340 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: but Pro Bowl because his dominant shows up on tape. 341 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: And you're like, that is one of the best guys 342 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: at his respective position. And so man, that DJ quality 343 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. You need three, they've got one. And so 344 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: that's a lot of So you're talking about multiple years 345 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: that because you can't do that all in one offseason. 346 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: That's multiple years while also bringing in expectedly a new 347 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: coaching staff and a new I mean, that is a so. 348 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that is a lot at one time. So 349 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: hit me, hit me on this one philosophically, and I 350 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: think this has changed. Um, You've got these all these 351 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: things we just mentioned when you prioritize them, Buck, I honestly, 352 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: if if I'm solving one problem at a time, like 353 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: I'm looking at Okay, I'm gonna draft a quarterback one one, 354 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: everything in this first year is about him. Everything is 355 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: about him. I got all his picks and and almost 356 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: like we saw Matt Rule do the opposite, right, he 357 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: won all defense, but they don't have that quarterback right now. 358 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: I think once you see them get you know, Teddy Bridgewaters, 359 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: they're kind of their bridge guy once because once they 360 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: get good, that's when you can drop the ricky quarterback 361 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: in or the young quarterback in. So I think for 362 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: them and I think it's two different ways to do it, 363 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: two different ways to do it. Yeah, and I think 364 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: Matt Rule knows, Okay, they'll probably take me two years 365 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: to get this defense up and going. By the time 366 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: they're going in year three, Teddy Bridge would have been 367 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: the last year of his deal. That is actually the 368 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: perfect time for us to draft a quarterback, and everyone 369 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: kind of goes that way. What you're talking about with 370 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: the Jets is the indian Apolis Colts model with Andrew Luck. 371 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: When they drafted Andrew Luck and they took uh, it 372 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: was like Noah's Ark. They took two is to give 373 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: me two tight ends and give me two things. I 374 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: think that is it. And if if I'm the Jet, 375 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: it's a mix of young and old. Um, I want 376 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: not real old, but some free agents to throw at 377 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: it that we can get. But I think this is 378 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: the year that if we're going to fix the offense, 379 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: we're going to throw resources at the offensive line. We're 380 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: gonna ask more playmakers. We have the quarterback, and this 381 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: year we know we're going to take our lumps, but 382 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: we're committed to fixing the offense and next year is well. 383 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: To me, it depends on when you know when the 384 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: opportunity strikes to get the quarterback. So when you're picking 385 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: one one, you're taking a quarterback. I think that like 386 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: you're saying the perfect world as you build up your team. 387 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: And that's why we've seen like Kansas City was in 388 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: a great spot because they have built up a talent base, 389 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: traded up to get my home. So now you have 390 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: a good talent base, insert the rookie quarterback and now 391 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: you can hit the ground running right away. But when 392 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: you're picking one one, that's your time. You gotta take 393 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback. So now you've got to take the quarterback, 394 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 1: and now you've got to try and fill in around him. 395 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: So to me, I want to get him up and 396 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: running and and playing well, even if losing games thirty 397 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: thirty one. If our young quarterback is progressing and showing 398 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: signs that's good. And then what you're gonna have to 399 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: do is, as you know, if you can't get it 400 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: done in the rookie contract with the championship level team, 401 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: you're going to have to rely on on defense. Young 402 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna be drafting a lot of defense, young, fast, athletic, 403 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: cheap on the defensive side of the ball. Okay, And 404 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: so with that, see, because here's what I want people 405 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: to understand when we think about the team building process, 406 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 1: and this is why everyone has to be in unison 407 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: and in sync. So if we're talking about the overauching 408 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: premise is we're gonna be young and cheap on defense, 409 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: then the people that you hire to coach that side 410 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: of the they need to be great teachers and they 411 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: need to be able to employ a scheme that enables 412 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: young guys to get on the field and play at 413 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: a high level. So you can't have this grizzled guy 414 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: trying to do this automatic front and check system that's 415 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: very complex and you guys play slow. Everything has to 416 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: line up. If we're going to be committed to playing 417 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: young guys, then I scheme needs to be simple enough 418 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: that they can get on the field, and our coaches 419 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: need to be great teachers to develop them on the 420 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: grass in practice. I love that. I love it, and 421 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: to me, it's premium resources would go to the offense 422 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna try and throw some numbers um 423 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: at the defense. So in other words, hey, our first 424 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: I think the Jets have two ones to two three's 425 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: I think in this draft, and they've got two ones 426 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: in the following draft. But I'm sitting there going, Okay, 427 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: two ones quarterback, offensive lineman, you got the second round pick, 428 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: could be another playmaker on offense or what have you. 429 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: And then and then after that those your first three dudes. 430 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: Now it's like, okay, now I've got your two threes. Night. 431 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: Maybe those two threes are corners. Maybe those two threes 432 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: are you know, a corner and an edge rusher that 433 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: are kind of just upside guys, development guys. But those 434 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: are that's the their defense is going to have to 435 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: win out of the third, fourth, fifth round. You're gonna 436 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: And that's what Seattle did. Look what Seattle, how they built. 437 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: They're good teams. Their defense was Bobby Wagner in the 438 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: second round and Sherman in the fifth round. And Chancellor, 439 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: all those guys outside of the premiere round, so to speak. Yeah, 440 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: and it has to be a commitment from top to bottom. 441 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: And the commitment has to be a here's how we're 442 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: going to build a team. Everyone in this room needs 443 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: to be on board. Coaches and scouts. We have to 444 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: be committed to not only drafting younger players, we've gotta 445 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: be committed to putting them on the field. And you 446 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: also have to spend time with them there. You know, DJ, 447 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: We've been around the thing. There's some coaches that don't 448 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: like to spend the extra time working with the young 449 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: guys or whatever. Where you got. You better make sure 450 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: that you have the right set of teachers in there. 451 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: And so it will be very interesting to see um 452 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: when you go about making these plans, like how in 453 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: lockstep as a general manager and coach in that process, 454 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: And does the general manager have the bandwidth or the 455 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: wherewithal to understand, Okay, this guy is coming from a 456 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: situation that is similar to where we are. Because I 457 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: also think that is important. I think it's important that 458 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: the people that you hire, the head coach that you hire, 459 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: he understands the challenges that he's facing. He's not coming 460 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: from a place where he's been given everything. He understands, Okay, 461 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: I gotta build this from the ground up, and I'm 462 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: very very comfortable living in this world. The Mad Rule example, 463 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: to me is what that is. Matt Rule took over 464 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: two programs in college that we're not ready made spots, 465 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: built up Temple, built up Baylor. So when he came 466 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: to Carolina to build it up, it wasn't overwhelming, it 467 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: wasn't daunting because he's like, Okay, I know how to 468 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: do this, and I think it's really important even if 469 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: it's the first time coach, that he understands what he's 470 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: dealing with and he has been around people that have 471 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: he's had a vested interests or a big part in 472 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: building up a program that is like that. One of 473 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: the things if you're you know, Jacksonville, who has a 474 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: ton of picks. We've talked about the Jets having a 475 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: ton of picks and and both of you know, look, 476 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: we assume the Jets will be looking for a head coach. 477 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: Jacksonville's already, Um you know, I think we're all we 478 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: assume both those teams looking for head coaches. Um, So 479 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: if that's the case to me when you're going through 480 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: the interview process, I'd like to know, Hey, whether it's 481 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: a college coach or an NFL coach, can you should 482 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: give me give me real examples of players that were 483 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: brought into your program, and then show me how you 484 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: develop them, you know, three years, four years down the line, Like, 485 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: give me. I want names. I want examples, show me 486 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: how what you got and what you made them, because 487 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: we're fixing to give you a ton of young dudes, man, 488 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to make them better. I want 489 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: the developmental plan. I want to see what it looks like, 490 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: and I want tangible examples that I can look at 491 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: and I can go back and I can reflect. And 492 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my time doing this process before I hired, 493 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: to make sure that I really vetted out. Um, we'll 494 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: say this, and this won't necessarily be to the ay 495 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: we're connecting us and saying, but this is why when 496 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: you tweeted out the conversation of the thing about Marvin 497 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: Lewis and everyone was taken aback. I don't think people 498 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: really lifted up the hood and understood why Marvin Lewis 499 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: may have more action in this cycle than other cycles. 500 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: What Marvin Lewis was able to do in Cincinnati, when 501 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: you now look back on it, you have a greater 502 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: appreciation for it because we just talked about the Bengals 503 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: and what they have to climb. They have to get 504 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: past the Browns, the Ravens and the Steelers to kind 505 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: of be in the mix. Well, Marvin went to Cincinnati 506 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: when they were down and for him to win what 507 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: four division titles, seven playoff appearances with that division. We 508 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: just talked about the stacks that same division with the 509 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: same I mean, look, philosophically, those teams were exactly the same. 510 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: He was able to do it be on the positive 511 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: side of a five record and other and people appoint 512 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: to not winning a game in the playoffs. Sometimes that's 513 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: random that that happens to his fault, that that they 514 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: doved Carson's knees. They had it was good enough to 515 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. Is that father Vantas Berfeck lost 516 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: his mind and when they had a game that was 517 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: wrapped up against the Pittsburgh Sills. All that comes into play. 518 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: But I think what we're talking about is understanding how 519 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: to build a program and being okay, knowing, hey man, 520 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: this is gonna be hard. I'm not gonna have everything 521 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: in my disposal. Um, I can I can make this happen. 522 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: We can make this happen hiring the right coaches and 523 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: putting this team in the right situation. And so it 524 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: is very very interesting looking at that and looking at 525 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: some of the other guys because people have talked about 526 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: Jim call Well and some of the other coaches. I 527 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: just think it'd be a fascinating thing with some of 528 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: the college coaches also in the mix. Like we talked 529 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: about Matt Campbell. Uh, people are always gonna talk about 530 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. UM seeing those things. Even though I think 531 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: Lincoln riley situation is different. I would see you towards 532 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: Matt Campbell then Lincoln Riley in a rebuild because I've 533 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: seen Matt Campbell do it at Toledo and then Iowa State. 534 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley kind of stepped into a plum job, not 535 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: saying he couldn't do it, but it's a different it's 536 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 1: a different as Yeah. By the way, on the coaching thing, 537 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: you can check out our our interview with Brian Billick, 538 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: which was excellent on Tuesday's podcast if you missed it, 539 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: but I did see Uh, somebody tweeted out the other day, 540 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: and I've look. I think, if everything's equal, you want 541 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: to lean towards an offensive coach, if it's equal in 542 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: terms of all the other other checklist you have, because 543 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, look, if if you hire a defensive head coach, 544 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: you've got a young quarterback, he plays well, your coordinators 545 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: gonna get a head coaching job. Now you're gonna have 546 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: to keep changing guys who are around him. So if 547 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: it's close, yeah, I would lean towards the offense. But 548 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't just say we're hiring an offensive 549 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: guy versus you know, we're gonna knock and hire defensive guys. 550 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: Because I'm looking through the teams here. Let's look at 551 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: the division winners or leaders right now. Buffalo McDermott defensive guy, 552 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Tomlin defensive guy, Titans Verbel defensive guy. Then you 553 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: go Chiefs obviously Andy offense Giants, Joe Judge Specialty is 554 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: not an offensive guy. Uh. You go to Green Bay, 555 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: Lafleur offensive guy, Saints, Peyton offensive guy rams is uh 556 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: McVeigh offensive guy. It's four and it's four and four, 557 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: So four offensive coaches for non offensive coaches if we 558 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: count judge there. So, um, just get the best dude, man, 559 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: Just don't don't get don't go into that saying this 560 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: is I've got to have this or that you know 561 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,959 Speaker 1: these guys, get the best guy. I think the end 562 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: run around the defensive conversation DJ is if you hire 563 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: a defensive guy and he brings in an older offensive coordinator, 564 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: not a young hip hot an older offensive coordinator, that hey, 565 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: this is what they do. I'm not saying a Tom 566 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: more type, but a Tom Moore type where there is 567 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: not the head coach. Thing may not be in the 568 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: cars for them because of their age and because of 569 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: some of those things. But someone who is still up 570 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: on it and understands how to deal with young quarterbacks 571 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: and its creative and innovative and does those things. I 572 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: think Chan Gailey is kind of like a perfect example. 573 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: Like you look down in Miami. I don't think Brian 574 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: Floyd's has to worry about someone trying to pluck Chan 575 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: Gaily away from him, and so you can build a 576 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: program that may be sustainable. That's interesting, It's definitely fascinating there. 577 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: Um on the quarterback thing, uh, anything you want to 578 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: add that we didn't hit the other day on hurts 579 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 1: and uh at wins and where this thing goes with 580 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: with the Eagles. So here here's my thing with hurts 581 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: and wins and all this, and I'm gonna take it 582 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: off the players. I'm saying now this is on the coaches, 583 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: right because I don't I still don't believe that the 584 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: Eagles did a great job of setting Carson went stuff 585 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: for success. Um, he hasn't played well, man, I know that, Um, 586 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: Doug maybe an appearance. They mean, we exhausted all options. 587 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: We change things around, and we tried to up to tempo. 588 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: We try to do all these other things. But I 589 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: will say this the one thing that is very apparent 590 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: to me. They do not like running the football, and 591 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: they refused to take something kind of good, and they 592 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: refused to take some of the pressure off the quarterback 593 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: by running the ball the mouse and it's his live 594 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: been productive. I mean, he has a nice yards per 595 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: carry average, he has shown the ability to break off 596 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: this big plays. And they do not lean into the 597 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: running game. And so the Eagles will stay exactly the 598 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: same if they try and play Jalen Hurst like they 599 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: played Carson Wentz. If they continue to try and throw 600 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: it all over the yard and do those things, you 601 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: would get the same results and Jalen Hursts will not 602 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: look good. However, if they change their stuff, they take 603 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: this as an opportunity to hit the reset. But boom, 604 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: all right, here's what we're going to do. We're going 605 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: to run the football. We're gonna be committed to getting 606 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: thirty to thirty five runs on the docket each week 607 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: because we know we gotta keep Jalen Hursts on a 608 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: reasonable pitch count of any five, no more than thirty throws. 609 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: I think that's what you want to do with him, 610 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: then they'll have a better chance because what that will 611 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: do is it will change the way that the game 612 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: plays out for them. Their defense won't face as many 613 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: snaps because the clock is going to run. And so 614 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: now you say, hey, Jim, you can be a little 615 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: more aggressive with your pressure package, because then we're trying 616 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: to create negative plays and splash plays to get short fields. 617 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: And so this has to be an overall sea change 618 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: for the Eagles for the work. If it doesn't work 619 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: and the defense is operating and it's on silo, the 620 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: offense is operating, where we're trying to generate a score 621 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: all these different points without worrying about how the rest 622 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: of the team play. It's gonna be epic failure. We're 623 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: gonna see it happen immediately on Sunday. All right, I 624 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: want to give you one thing here. I'm not comparing. 625 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that this these two players are the same. 626 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: But stats are stats. Sometimes you just say, okay, look, 627 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: stats are stats. I'm just gonna give you the numbers 628 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: you do with them, which what what you want here? Okay? 629 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: So when I look at Carson Wentz, this is one too, 630 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: three four. This is his fifth year, right, so we 631 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: look at those, uh you know, the first year was 632 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: sixteen touchdowns, fourteen picks, kind of similar, right, almost a 633 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: fifty fifty you know, touchdown the interception ratio, and I'm 634 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: just looking. I know there's a million other stats. Isn't 635 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 1: the b all in all with touchdowns picks? But then 636 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: you have the good years following that, uh seventeen, you know, 637 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: thirty three and seven touchdowns picks seven seven, So those 638 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: uh so so first year turnovers a little high, three 639 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: really good years, and then this year goes in the toilet, 640 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: and I feel like and I've said it, there's no 641 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: example of that, Like, where can you see somebody that 642 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: at that point in time in their career that has 643 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 1: taken such a dive. Okay, let me let me give 644 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: you a guy by the name of Peyton Manning here 645 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: real quick, buck. His first year, Peyton Manning twenty six touchdowns, 646 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: twenty eight picks, right, that's the big interception year. Then 647 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: he goes fifteen, thirty three, fifteen. But now you get 648 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: into his so this would be his fourth year, not 649 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: his fifth year, but his fourth year. Peyton Manning touchdowns, 650 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: twenty three interceptions, so picks like this is almost like 651 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: kind of right there, and look at he you know 652 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: what they were. They were six and ten. The cults 653 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: were six and ten that year, and then after that 654 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: Peyton went on a terror. So I'm just saying there is. 655 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: I've been saying there's no example. Well there is. I'm 656 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: not saying that Carson Wentz is Peyton Manny. Don't get 657 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 1: that twisted. But Peyton Manny did not have a good 658 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: year his fourth year in the league. No, and I 659 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: think we had we've reached this point where we're kind 660 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: of into microwavable society and when it comes to quarterbacks, 661 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: we feel like these guys can kind of do it. 662 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: I will say this a lot of times. I want 663 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: to see from a coach, how much easier can you 664 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: make the game for the quarterback. Doug Peterson part of 665 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: the reason why he's in, I mean he was beloved 666 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: and making the run with Nick Foles is because he 667 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: sat down and he figured out a way to make 668 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: Nick Foles play at a high level. Because we saw 669 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: those first couple of games when he was into he 670 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: was he was bad. And then what he that He 671 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: went all the way back and he found the tape 672 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: when Nick Foles played really well under Chip Kelly and 673 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: basically it was do the same thing that they did 674 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: under that. So my bewilderment when it comes to this is, man, 675 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: we can't figure out what Carson did those three previous 676 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: years and just run a simplified game plan that features 677 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: those layups over and over again. So to me, that's 678 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: the part that falls on him. Like Doug, like, let's 679 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: look at how Carson played at his best, and when 680 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: your guy is struggling, you build the game plan with 681 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: just his best things, fewer plays, all of the plays 682 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: that he does really really well more run game and 683 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: let him slowly build his confidence up. But and look, 684 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: maybe this is Carson's stubbornness on his own. I don't know, 685 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: because you're not in the building, but I just feel 686 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: like you have to help him. And then with the 687 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: young quarterback in Jalen, if they attempt to run what 688 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 1: I call a pro style offense, that is the offense 689 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: that we seen Carson Wentz run, is not going to work. 690 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: I think Doug Peterson said this. He said they wanted 691 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: some of that Taysom Hill effect, but then they need 692 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: to play Jalen Hurts like he's Taysom Hill, not in 693 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: terms of the multi positional stuff, but we have seen 694 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill is consistently getting eight to twelve carries, quarterback sweeps, 695 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: zone reads, all that stuff. I want Jalen Hurst to 696 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: do a mix of what he did at Alabama with 697 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: a little mix of what he did at Oklahoma, because 698 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: the Oklahoma stuff is fine, but I think he's he's 699 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: more comfortable and probably better for his skill set doing 700 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: the stuff that he did at Alabama, which featured quarterback 701 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: run game. And it's gonna put a lot of pressure 702 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: on the Eagles defense and special teams try and help, 703 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: try and make up for uh for some of that 704 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: take some of that pressure off. Which look, they hung 705 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: in there with the Packers for a good while there 706 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: before they play that long run. They played okay. On defense, 707 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: their biggest issue is offensively, not even in scoring points, 708 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: the turnovers. Like when you the negative plays, the turnovers 709 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: the gift opportun and so I think when you do this, 710 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: because let's look at the Saints, and the Saints are 711 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: are different in terms of I would say, obviously they 712 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: had better talent, but their defense wasn't playing at a 713 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: high level. But then you put Taysom Hill. Then they 714 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: knew that they had to go up. So now Dennis 715 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: Ellen changed the way to be called defense. I don't know, 716 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 1: but I know defensively there are much different defense when 717 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: they have Taysom Hill at quarterback. Yeah, that's fascinating, man, UM, 718 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: all right, anything anything else you want to add before 719 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: we we get out of here. Bucks has been a phone. 720 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: It was a great one, greatest conversation. Yeah, scrimmaging. This 721 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: is what we call scrimmaging in the in the scouting world. 722 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: Just scrimmaging ideas back and forth and UM end up 723 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: being pretty profitable there, all right, that's gonna do it 724 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: for us, you guys, thank you so much for hanging 725 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: with us today. I hope you guys have a wonderful 726 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: football weekend and we'll see you next time. Right here 727 00:33:47,280 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: on move the sticks presented by Zaxby's UT has got 728 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: before for a moment, UT