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Speaker 1: What Up, Baby, j What up? DJ scream, I'm here.
Speaker 4: We are welcoming today to one and only Adam twenty
Speaker 4: two from No Jumper and Break Baby.
Speaker 1: They are here. What's up?
Speaker 5: What's so?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 6: What's up?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 4: Feelings with what brings you out to the beautiful city
Speaker 4: of Atlanta.
Speaker 7: It started with Cam Newton is down to have you
Speaker 7: on this podcast, and then I figured I would hit
Speaker 7: you guys up and then we.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was just random.
Speaker 7: But we spent the whole day with young girl, uh,
Speaker 7: and then we spent like a whole day with Woody's
Speaker 7: a hot topic out here. So we just kind of
Speaker 7: got a whole bunch of shit done in like four days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they laughing. This is a good guy. So I
Speaker 1: think I think the let's just jump straight.
Speaker 4: I think I think one of the reasons this happened,
Speaker 4: and we've been talking for some years about us coming
Speaker 4: to your joint, your you come to ours is. There
Speaker 4: was a quote that was saying, you say the quote
Speaker 4: Atlanta media don't have much doing on what was the
Speaker 4: proper quote because everybody blew up my phone about it.
Speaker 1: I can't even remember anymore, but it was something like that.
Speaker 7: It was like, yeah, Atlanta might be kind of number
Speaker 7: one in the conversation about the most popular rappers coming
Speaker 7: out in the last ten years, but we haven't necessarily
Speaker 7: seen the Atlanta media space get as big as New
Speaker 7: York or LA. And I did specify that I felt
Speaker 7: like you guys were basically like the biggest podcast out here.
Speaker 1: I don't think this.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's no dissing, no ship though, because
Speaker 2: it really it really like like, man, you know, the
Speaker 2: South always want to be late to bloom on ship
Speaker 2: because it's you know what I'm.
Speaker 6: Saying, bloom but late to get the proper recognition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, like you look at
Speaker 1: the ship.
Speaker 2: Niggas like Prince and p and cash Money probably to
Speaker 2: go through trying to be you knowles South.
Speaker 7: He's like, come on, man, well, but I'm like, I'm
Speaker 7: not even quoting it correctly because the real quote was
Speaker 7: there was another personality Ray Daniels who said that a
Speaker 7: No Jumper or a Vlad TV could not have been
Speaker 7: created in Atlanta because everybody in Atlanta has guns. And
Speaker 7: I think that's really what sparked the conversation because obviously
Speaker 7: we gotta be like, hey, we got guns too, Hey,
Speaker 7: acknowledge us everybody. He said a no Jumper or a
Speaker 7: Vlad could not have been created in Atlanta because everybody
Speaker 7: has guns and there's too much of a street culture
Speaker 7: going on, which y'all wouldn't bet.
Speaker 1: No, this is, this is wouldn't be out that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, let me let me let me say because ra
Speaker 8: is my man, and I may be I'm, I'm. This
Speaker 8: is my interpretation of what the gist of what he
Speaker 8: was saying is. Basically, it's like when it comes to
Speaker 8: Flad and when it comes to like the No Jumpers,
Speaker 8: even like with the Acts and you know, like those
Speaker 8: types of shows, like they're similar platforms like us, but
Speaker 8: sometimes you guys are a lot more controversial and touch
Speaker 8: on a lot of things or have a lot more
Speaker 8: personal opinions when it comes to certain things. So when
Speaker 8: it comes to that, it's like Atlanta's a small place,
Speaker 8: no matter how big it seems. So for you to
Speaker 8: be able to move around comfortably, you're gonna run into
Speaker 8: somebody that you had an opinion about.
Speaker 1: Somebody you had to do it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna go down, it's gonna go up.
Speaker 2: What you think about emotional ass La though, you know
Speaker 2: that we feel entitled to everything. So the amount of
Speaker 2: threats that come through over there, and you know they
Speaker 2: play boy in La too, So like the gun thing
Speaker 2: is like, man, every everybody that's ewhere.
Speaker 1: So I guess, ray, this is my first time here.
Speaker 1: Ship is being one.
Speaker 2: But I guess what Jade saying and what rape I
Speaker 2: was saying. Will Yeah, it can't be nowhere. Niggas go niggas.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's everywhere like that. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: So y'all must not be offending niggas game.
Speaker 7: But this is the thing is if you if you
Speaker 7: really want to be a media personality who blows up,
Speaker 7: whether it's academics or Charleston White or whoever, it's like,
Speaker 7: you really got to be willing to offend people. And
Speaker 7: I will agree. Atlanta has an amazing community hip hop wise.
Speaker 7: We saw that at that Drew Sky thing, everybody coming together.
Speaker 7: There's so much love and respect, and it feels like
Speaker 7: everybody knows each other and ship And I'll be honest
Speaker 7: with you, there's a way better vibe than damn near
Speaker 7: anything hip hop oriented that you're gonna hit up in
Speaker 7: l A.
Speaker 1: Like it's just the.
Speaker 7: People really like it just seems like there's a good
Speaker 7: vibe in the air.
Speaker 1: It's gonna cast you out, basically.
Speaker 7: But if you want to be an academic, Sir Charleston White,
Speaker 7: you have to be willing to fuck the You gotta
Speaker 7: be willing to like really say some ship. You gotta say, hey,
Speaker 7: young thug might be the fucking coolest dude in the world,
Speaker 7: and he might have the most power out here, but
Speaker 7: guess what his new song.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 7: And here's why, Like, if you really want to stand
Speaker 7: out as a media personality, and what I just said
Speaker 7: is not what Charleston White would say. Charleston White, would
Speaker 7: you know, say the worst, most defensive thing you could
Speaker 7: think of. And that's kind of like what gets him
Speaker 7: a consistent amount of attention.
Speaker 8: Com Do you feel like when you when you make
Speaker 8: that decision to fuck the vibe up so that you
Speaker 8: can gain that notoriety. Do you agree that it puts
Speaker 8: you in a box that limits your mobility.
Speaker 1: Nah, you.
Speaker 6: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: What I'm saying is it puts you in a box
Speaker 8: that limits your mobility to the point where you can't
Speaker 8: just go to fucking Magic City on Monday. Charles Sidis
Speaker 8: is outside and a lot of these other people are not.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, but we gotta be a nigga
Speaker 2: like him. You gotta be a nigga like.
Speaker 5: He's everything I say, all the type of crazy shit.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be outside too. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I don't be saying to the ones that that that
Speaker 2: if end you give what I'm saying, they definitely start first,
Speaker 2: and then you want to do this trolls shit. I
Speaker 2: really just came out the streets. I know that I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go farther than you with this troll shit. Leave
Speaker 2: me alone. You get what I'm saying. And I feel
Speaker 2: like it's no difference between the kids that's loading up
Speaker 2: on Instagram saying the same crazy shit. But they holding
Speaker 2: up guns, they saying all types of stuff, and they
Speaker 2: still coming outside. I think that they know that the
Speaker 2: controversy is kind of boosting them off into a certain
Speaker 2: place at a certain point.
Speaker 7: That's a big part of why break Baby is a
Speaker 7: great host on No Jumper and Shit is that and
Speaker 7: why he consistently will say shit or have takes that
Speaker 7: go viral is because he every week will say something
Speaker 7: that will make me just like WHOA, I can't believe
Speaker 7: he said that, either because he's being so honest about
Speaker 7: how shit works in the streets, or he's saying something
Speaker 7: where it's clear that he's willing to a people, whether
Speaker 7: it's people close to him or people who are like
Speaker 7: on the other side of shit. But I think that
Speaker 7: he's kind of taking that in and realize that if
Speaker 7: he wants to be something in the media space, he's
Speaker 7: going to have to be the guy who's willing to
Speaker 7: have a take that other people are scared to say
Speaker 7: like that. Like I think with Charleston wider with academics,
Speaker 7: the reason why it works is because they say shit
Speaker 7: that people really agree with, even if it's abrasive.
Speaker 1: Now, if you're just a dickhead, that's the other side
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 7: You could just be a dickhead and like you might
Speaker 7: go viral and shit, but you're not going to gain
Speaker 7: that Like loving Fan base if you're just an asshole
Speaker 7: on camera, Like people have to be able to tell
Speaker 7: that you also mean the shit you're saying, you know, yeah, sure.
Speaker 4: Have you ever had a moment where you just you
Speaker 4: know you it might've been a day later, a week later,
Speaker 4: a month later, we like, damn, I might have went
Speaker 4: too far, Like oh, yeah, you just so, how do
Speaker 4: you because now now it already came out, so it's
Speaker 4: already out there, it's in the universe.
Speaker 1: So at that point, how do you fix that?
Speaker 4: Have you ever had to apologize, make a personal conversation,
Speaker 4: shoot a DM or you just standing on him?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all of that. I don't want to stand on
Speaker 1: some then if I don't really believe it.
Speaker 7: But I also like, before I go on the podcast
Speaker 7: and talk about a topic, usually I give it some
Speaker 7: thought and think about, like what my actual opinion is,
Speaker 7: And I feel like that's an important part of it though,
Speaker 7: Like if you're just constantly jumping out the window and
Speaker 7: saying shit you gotta apologize for, then you know you
Speaker 7: might not really be cut out for this. You might
Speaker 7: need to work on your temperature.
Speaker 2: At because it's a lot of people that double back
Speaker 2: on what they say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like a lot of shit.
Speaker 2: No yeah, yeah, yeah, but as okay, learning the media,
Speaker 2: you're gonna say some stuff online where you like, man,
Speaker 2: you could have kept that in a private conversation or
Speaker 2: like or on one of these podcasts where it's like
Speaker 2: you get so comfortable that you you might say something
Speaker 2: and it might really be that, but you intensifying it
Speaker 2: by putting it out there in the world coming.
Speaker 5: From just against perspective, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And that's where I learned, like oh yeah, some of
Speaker 2: these conversations, I just gotta go light on the topic,
Speaker 2: like he already know.
Speaker 5: What's happening, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But when you when you when you take off now
Speaker 2: they want to see what the outcome of the situation is,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm trying to say, Like in there
Speaker 2: sit there control both sides like oh, you're gonna slide,
Speaker 2: Oh you said this about him like I just had
Speaker 2: really be a PI and I ain't really mean it
Speaker 2: like that. You the fans keep this shit going like
Speaker 2: sharing all the way up. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because I think I'm gonna I'm gonna just give
Speaker 8: an example, like I had a situation we were interviewing Candy,
Speaker 8: which is a dear friend of mine. I love her
Speaker 8: to death. I have the utmost respect for her.
Speaker 6: And she was.
Speaker 8: Talking about her in vitro fertilization process.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 8: You know, I'm off the cuff, so I'm thinking, like
Speaker 8: all kinds of funny shit jokes, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 6: So she said that she got her.
Speaker 8: In vitro fertilization done and she had some eggs left over.
Speaker 6: So I said, what did you do with him? Did
Speaker 6: you fry him as a joke?
Speaker 8: But the people in the comments, like it was people
Speaker 8: in the comments that really thought that, Like I was serious, Like,
Speaker 8: oh my god, you're making a joke of women that
Speaker 8: can't have children and all that shit.
Speaker 6: And I would never do that.
Speaker 8: But it's like sometimes it's people out there that don't
Speaker 8: understand or that want to make something bigger than what
Speaker 8: it is. And you have to just have the discernment
Speaker 8: to be able to know like what you mean and
Speaker 8: what you meant from the heart and just leave it
Speaker 8: at that and not feed into that shit.
Speaker 7: And if it was just you and your homegirls sitting
Speaker 7: at brunch and you made that, yeah it would have
Speaker 7: been and you know exactly, like what her temperature is
Speaker 7: you might not have made the same joke with your
Speaker 7: super religious friend who doesn't laugh at anything exactly.
Speaker 1: Probably wouldn't even have a friend like that.
Speaker 7: But like in general, like I see that all the
Speaker 7: time where Joe Budden had an eclipping went viral where
Speaker 7: the girl on his podcast, Wilsa Afford, she was talking
Speaker 7: about her period and Joe goes.
Speaker 1: You still get that because she's a little older. But
Speaker 1: I thought it was tough.
Speaker 3: People were really like, all it's age shaming. It's terrible.
Speaker 3: It's it's harassment. Just like, bro, if they're friends, Like,
Speaker 3: I think that's it was funny as fuck. That's the
Speaker 3: exact kind of joke that I would love to I
Speaker 3: was jealous. I didn't think of that, that's a good joke.
Speaker 3: The world just was sensitive. We say that the world just.
Speaker 2: Those sensitive because it's like now now you just like
Speaker 2: the abortion, it's like you just like it's like those eggs.
Speaker 1: Are kids things like that.
Speaker 6: I'm like, bro, it's a joke, Like what the hell.
Speaker 7: But you gotta be willing to have those conversations of
Speaker 7: fand random people, and you have to be able to
Speaker 7: tell the difference between like important people in your industry
Speaker 7: being angry at you for a joke you made versus
Speaker 7: like getting But even if it's.
Speaker 8: The important people in the industry that are angry, if
Speaker 8: I'm being true to myself and this is really how
Speaker 8: I feel and really what I believe, and I know
Speaker 8: for a fact that I didn't mean any harm, I
Speaker 8: excuse you important industry people for offending you.
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, like I don't.
Speaker 4: Give a fuck, what's the what's the what's the fine
Speaker 4: line though, of the person that you don't want to
Speaker 4: sit with, that you're uncomfortable sitting with, Like you know,
Speaker 4: as a media person, you got to have got to
Speaker 4: have a conversation with anybody.
Speaker 1: But this is the.
Speaker 4: Fine line of Like, we have our morals in a
Speaker 4: space where we probably won't sit with certain people just
Speaker 4: from a moral standpoint, what's the fine line of that
Speaker 4: for y'all?
Speaker 7: I mean certain people, you know, if you feel if
Speaker 7: I feel like someone is being disingenuous, if they're hating
Speaker 7: on somebody, but their perspective is intended to smear somebody,
Speaker 7: you know, Like there was just the other day, there
Speaker 7: was like a smaller podcast crew that I was checking
Speaker 7: out on Instagram, and I'm thinking, oh, yeah, I could,
Speaker 7: I could probably do some good content if I did
Speaker 7: an interview with these guys. And I keep scrolling down
Speaker 7: and I see them shitting on some other podcasters who
Speaker 7: I fuck with, And it's not that they're shitting on them,
Speaker 7: but I feel like they're they're not really telling the
Speaker 7: whole story. They're they're taking news and gossip and they're
Speaker 7: kind of shaping the narrative that I don't feel like
Speaker 7: is honest. And so to me, I would feel like
Speaker 7: it was fucked up for me to have those people
Speaker 7: on if I felt like they were going to talk
Speaker 7: about somebody that I care about in such a way
Speaker 7: that it's totally fine. I have interviews with people who
Speaker 7: hate Glad and fucking don't like act or don't like whoever. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that's fine, But it's like, if you're if your critique
Speaker 7: feels dishonest, then I feel like that's that's where I
Speaker 7: don't want to go with it. And also, I mean,
Speaker 7: if you really feel like somebody is really like spread
Speaker 7: and hate and if you feel like they're gonna potentially
Speaker 7: like if even like a couple hundred people watching your
Speaker 7: podcast are gonna watch somebody like say some real hateful
Speaker 7: shit and latch onto it and and resonate with it.
Speaker 7: That can be kind of risky or even like you know,
Speaker 7: when we would always have Kryptmac on the podcast, It's
Speaker 7: like at some point we kind of came to an agreement,
Speaker 7: like you could talk about your ops, but like please
Speaker 7: don't like name them, Please don't be using any like
Speaker 7: slang terms to disrespect them. That's like there's just like
Speaker 7: a different line. If you start to feel like people
Speaker 7: are using your platform to like create real street situations,
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, that starts to feel like a
Speaker 7: bad use of your platform as well.
Speaker 8: Okay, now that you now that, like you brought that up,
Speaker 8: I got a two part question that I want to
Speaker 8: ask you because in the past you've had like your
Speaker 8: own battle or you've had your own situation where there
Speaker 8: have been like racist, culture vulture allegations or whatever against
Speaker 8: you and no jump or whatever. So I want you
Speaker 8: to kind of speak to your side of those allegations.
Speaker 8: And then the second part is I want you to
Speaker 8: talk about some of the some of the fucking some
Speaker 8: of the things that you've done, like community wise and
Speaker 8: for the culture that would kind of offset those allegations.
Speaker 6: That were made against you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I don't even know the racist thing,
Speaker 7: Where did that come from? I feel like it mostly
Speaker 7: just comes from like, oh, you you're white and you're
Speaker 7: interview with a bunch of rappers and sometimes you have like,
Speaker 7: you know, challenging conversations with them.
Speaker 1: I feel like that label was kind of inevitable.
Speaker 7: But you know, I feel like I just got to
Speaker 7: go out into the world and do the best content
Speaker 7: I can, have the best conversations I can, and just
Speaker 7: try to, you know, just make the best ship that
Speaker 7: I can. And that's like the only thing that's gonna
Speaker 7: put space between people saying that. I feel like every
Speaker 7: day I go into work and just try to do
Speaker 7: the best ship I can to make the culture entertained
Speaker 7: and happy and try to dip and dive around that ship.
Speaker 2: They try to say that he's the slave owner because
Speaker 2: he employs all black people that that's in gangs, and
Speaker 2: they knowing that drama coming with just all type of bs,
Speaker 2: Like I'll be just laughing because he actually is genuine though,
Speaker 2: but he got accolades in there.
Speaker 7: I feel like you probably hear more of it than
Speaker 7: I do because You're kind of like the stand in
Speaker 7: for like anything I do that might be controversial, They're
Speaker 7: gonna come to him and quiz him about it before
Speaker 7: I hear about I'm kind of in my own world sometimes.
Speaker 6: If City is kind of like the Fall guy.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to be the guy. It's just
Speaker 1: like I'm I've been.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's closer to the bullshit, so they get to
Speaker 8: him first before they're able to even get to where
Speaker 8: you are, because he's he's he's around.
Speaker 2: But anytime one of the people, even though like anytime
Speaker 2: one of his people close to him, Fall just was
Speaker 2: like might go back to the streets and make a mistake.
Speaker 5: He always there, Like the Bill, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you play, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You go to the projects and all that, But you
Speaker 2: can't even expect somebody like that to keep on coming back.
Speaker 2: That you got a platform where you taking.
Speaker 1: You gotta understand.
Speaker 5: No jetpro on the blacklist from mainstream artists.
Speaker 7: For real, No formally, but I mean certainly you notice
Speaker 7: who you get and who you don't get.
Speaker 5: We don't get no rollouts, which is which.
Speaker 7: Is good at that because I hate the goddamn rollout.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, it's like, I feel like
Speaker 7: we have to go off personal relationships because we're not
Speaker 7: necessarily like you know, accepted by the industry as much.
Speaker 2: So we really dealing with the underground and the up
Speaker 2: and coming and giving them a platform where they can speak.
Speaker 2: They piece that people can know they personality and they
Speaker 2: can still do their thing.
Speaker 1: You try to reach out, y'all, try to reach out.
Speaker 7: To these Yeah, I mean we reach out me, Remo, Laura,
Speaker 7: my publicist. We all reach out to people all the
Speaker 7: time and just try to line shit up. But you know,
Speaker 7: in lieu of being able to, you know, get the
Speaker 7: biggest name artists on the podcast, we kind of have
Speaker 7: like realized that our real strength is like the underground
Speaker 7: and the street level dudes. That's really like kind of
Speaker 7: what we've chosen to focus on is just doing stuff
Speaker 7: before people pop off and just really documenting people who
Speaker 7: are like.
Speaker 1: Still kind of on this when you go get the
Speaker 1: real conversation too.
Speaker 7: And I feel like that endears you to people so
Speaker 7: much because they see you as oh, if I get
Speaker 7: a little bit more motion, that's like a real opportunity,
Speaker 7: Whereas they might look at the breakfast club and be like, well,
Speaker 7: I gotta be fucking gigantic to get on there. So
Speaker 7: I feel like that has kind of become our lane
Speaker 7: as time went by. I really kind of started with
Speaker 7: the SoundCloud rappers, and then we like as we expanded,
Speaker 7: just moved into like really looking at every important city
Speaker 7: in the in the country and just being like, all right,
Speaker 7: let's like keep our ear to the ground in terms
Speaker 7: of finding the young talent coming out of there or
Speaker 7: the new talent.
Speaker 4: What what was the biggest no Jumper moments so far?
Speaker 4: Like this conversation that you sitting down you have and
Speaker 4: he like it is kind of surreal. I can't even
Speaker 4: believe I'm talking to whoever that may be her shirt.
Speaker 1: Free Jeff Definitely.
Speaker 7: I was, Uh, I was in London and I'm just
Speaker 7: kicking it with Juice World, and he just walks me
Speaker 7: over to Thugs trailer and it's just like I see
Speaker 7: him talking to and I see him saying something like
Speaker 7: it's my boy Adam, you should fuck with him, and
Speaker 7: then like, uh, he doesn't immediately come over to me
Speaker 7: or anything, but then as he's going on stage, he
Speaker 7: walks right towards me on the way to the stage,
Speaker 7: and he just goes, We're gonna do a little interview.
Speaker 7: But then he goes on stage, and the whole time
Speaker 7: I'm thinking, does he mean like right now or is
Speaker 7: he talking like in the future. So the whole time
Speaker 7: I'm watching him perform, I'm googling and just trying to
Speaker 7: come up with questions on the spot. And then finally
Speaker 7: I just get like twenty five thirty minutes. And at
Speaker 7: that time he had not done an interview for like
Speaker 7: five six years or some shit. He had totally given
Speaker 7: up on interviews. After that, he did a bunch of
Speaker 7: more interviews, but uh, that was definitely probably like the
Speaker 7: biggest artists in their prime that I ever had, And
Speaker 7: it was just so I couldn't believe it was happening.
Speaker 7: It was just like, I cannot fucking I haven't seen
Speaker 7: this guy do an interview in so long, and he's
Speaker 7: just sitting down with me in London like it's nothing.
Speaker 1: That was just that was the craziest shit, And it's
Speaker 1: like my favorite rather you had just stuff already read.
Speaker 7: It, yeah, And I mean even in like the thirty
Speaker 7: minutes that we had, he gave us like a bunch
Speaker 7: of quotes that went super viral. He told Little nas
Speaker 7: X that it shouldn't have came out as gay, and
Speaker 7: it was like it was so obvious to me, like
Speaker 7: when he's saying it that he was saying, I feel like,
Speaker 7: maybe you shouldn't have said that because it's gonna fuck.
Speaker 1: Your career up and the culture that we're in, et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera.
Speaker 7: But I'm sitting there thinking, like, bro, when the media
Speaker 7: here is that they're gonna clip that shit and they
Speaker 7: are gonna lose all context of what you were trying
Speaker 7: to actually say.
Speaker 1: But he's not. He's not playing the media game.
Speaker 7: He's just literally saying whatever he thinks at any given time,
Speaker 7: and that definitely just made that even more special that
Speaker 7: that one stands out. But I mean, obviously like the
Speaker 7: xxx T and Tassi on interview back in the day
Speaker 7: is like the other one. That was just seeing an
Speaker 7: artist go from like damn he or nothing to like
Speaker 7: one of the biggest artists in the world in the
Speaker 7: course of like a couple of years, and then he
Speaker 7: gets killed and my interview is like the main thing
Speaker 7: that's out there for people to understand who he was.
Speaker 7: That really like sold me on this is super fucking important,
Speaker 7: Like I have to really go hard with this. This
Speaker 7: is way more than I knew I was signing up for.
Speaker 1: So you gave for real full disclosure.
Speaker 7: Never done anything sexual with a man, dead, homies, heterosexual.
Speaker 1: So why you post that ship? What you want to do.
Speaker 7: As an April Fools prank the day it was on.
Speaker 7: I wish I did it on a random day. That
Speaker 7: would have been way better.
Speaker 1: People people believe it what they think.
Speaker 7: For sure, Like, uh, the craziest moment was Kwando Rondo
Speaker 7: accepting or telling me that he respected me for living
Speaker 7: my truth and coming out and being the real me.
Speaker 7: And you could imagine he's really from the hood. That's
Speaker 7: probably not the easiest thing for him to say. And
Speaker 7: I had to tell him like, bro, I was just
Speaker 7: fucking around. That's a joke. And he's like oh, and
Speaker 7: he looked he looked bummed, like.
Speaker 1: That ship was there. Yeah, that was My daughter takes me.
Speaker 1: It was up crazy. He's living on the page.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's still up man crazy. That that's
Speaker 2: that's total freedom, bro, play like that. That's total freedom.
Speaker 2: You don't give a damn.
Speaker 1: They said anything else.
Speaker 4: When how did the sexual pornographic vibes get implemented into
Speaker 4: the brand.
Speaker 1: Like when did this. I don't know when it started.
Speaker 1: It seemed like it just.
Speaker 7: Happened, Honestly, it like started to happen like when I
Speaker 7: met my wife, Like we just kind of we're just
Speaker 7: hella open minded and like I remember within like a
Speaker 7: couple of days of us hanging out, we were just
Speaker 7: fucking and we just facetimed some girl we know, and
Speaker 7: the girl just watched this bang for like half hour.
Speaker 1: Sober. Yeah, sober at that time. I was not sober
Speaker 1: that often again, but I just kept going from there.
Speaker 7: Like at some point we started plug Talk only plug
Speaker 7: talk dot com, which is our adult podcast. It's the
Speaker 7: plug Talk is the best, the only podcast where the
Speaker 7: plug where the host smashed the guests.
Speaker 1: That's a new theme song that he said exactly. We
Speaker 1: got him to do the jingle. It's just rolling out now.
Speaker 2: So I mean I might jump off the porch with
Speaker 2: He talks about it a lot. He's very we'd be
Speaker 2: at them only fan parties. Man, you can see something
Speaker 2: walk by like man ship, im like do go okay
Speaker 2: for real quick?
Speaker 7: Yeah, There's been a few times where we've been at
Speaker 7: like porn parties, and he'll just kind of like look
Speaker 7: at me glazed eyes and be like, you don't even
Speaker 7: know how much better it is going to these kind
Speaker 7: of parties than the type of parties I grew up
Speaker 7: going to.
Speaker 1: And I honestly it's not as much like public sex
Speaker 1: as you.
Speaker 7: Would think, but it's got a lot of hot girls
Speaker 7: who are flirtatious to say the least. So if you're dabbling,
Speaker 7: it's probably a good time.
Speaker 2: If you got a good test result and within how many.
Speaker 1: Days is it you ain't been tested? No, I'm had
Speaker 1: what is it? Because? No? Two weeks? Like two weeks? No?
Speaker 1: Because remember we were in there.
Speaker 5: My boy he like he's like yeah, he's trying to
Speaker 5: shoot real quick. And she's like she's like I haven't
Speaker 5: been tested like we could.
Speaker 1: And I'm like I'll take the wow. Yeah.
Speaker 8: So let me ask you this, going back to the
Speaker 8: plug talk and the whole like OnlyFans and you know,
Speaker 8: like porn thing, how did you, as a man get
Speaker 8: into the space where you were comfortable enough to be
Speaker 8: able to watch other men fuck your wife.
Speaker 7: Honestly, I'm just kind of a freaky guy, and uh,
Speaker 7: it's like the stuff we were doing like I didn't
Speaker 7: even think I was going to do like real porn scene.
Speaker 6: Was it a gradual process or like yeah.
Speaker 7: We had kind of talked about it, and it's like
Speaker 7: we thought it would be fun, just like on a
Speaker 7: purely sexual level. We had talked about like swapping with
Speaker 7: another couple and stuff, and we were like, well, if
Speaker 7: we're going to do that, we gotta do it on camera.
Speaker 7: And then it's like, well, if she's going to do
Speaker 7: her debut with another guy, we got to really hype
Speaker 7: that up and make it its own.
Speaker 8: So you were kind of like in producer directorial mode.
Speaker 7: I'm always on viral mode, so you know, I'm always
Speaker 7: thinking about what's going to move the needle. And it's
Speaker 7: like at first, like people always try to point out
Speaker 7: like another podcast that I did like a couple of
Speaker 7: years before, where I said that I wouldn't do it,
Speaker 7: and it's the truth is is that the porn show
Speaker 7: just kind of like slowly when you get into it, well, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: the demon enters into your body, ORNs start growing up,
Speaker 7: and all of a.
Speaker 1: Sudden, one day you're just straight porn demon.
Speaker 7: I don't know, but it's like even my girl when
Speaker 7: my girl got on only fans. When we first started dating,
Speaker 7: I'm like, what are you gonna do on there? She's like,
Speaker 7: I'll probably just like finger myself and stuff. And then,
Speaker 7: like you know, three days in, she's like, can I
Speaker 7: give your head for OnlyFans? And all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: you're doing ship you thought you weren't gonna do, and uh,
Speaker 7: I don't know. I mean like fucking my girl with
Speaker 7: another dude is like, I don't dread it. People think
Speaker 7: it's like a bad day at work. That's a pretty
Speaker 7: good day of work for me. That's fun.
Speaker 1: Okay, smutter out. She deserves it. You do something, you
Speaker 1: do it? Yeah, yeah, do that other ship? You go
Speaker 1: eventually do that? What the gay thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're here, bro, you're too comforable in the rule
Speaker 2: with another nigga.
Speaker 1: We did that. We're kids. Yeah yeah, we're still doing it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If you like that, when
Speaker 1: you're like it, you gotta be honest with you. No,
Speaker 1: you don't.
Speaker 2: You don't even can't even get aroused with no nigga
Speaker 2: around because you're ignorant, you know what I'm saying. Because
Speaker 2: when you standing, if I'm on top of it and
Speaker 2: you're standing back. What are you looking at?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's see the ass seeks a nigga.
Speaker 7: It's like watching a porno while you're making a porner. Huh,
Speaker 7: listen you say what so it's you can't like you
Speaker 7: could you could watch a porno, right, Yeah, it's like
Speaker 7: I'm watching a porner while I'm making a porner.
Speaker 1: But you in there with meat. I don't gotta crab
Speaker 1: it or nothing.
Speaker 2: Oh nobody you you Hey, you flirting with it too?
Speaker 2: I got you flirting with it, bro, I gotta you
Speaker 2: said you'll never.
Speaker 1: Do the other ship.
Speaker 7: Yeah, nobody wants to see me do some gay ship.
Speaker 7: If that wanted me to, I still would have done it.
Speaker 7: But I'm just saying I'm not even incentivized to do
Speaker 7: it because nobody wants to see that. Like literally, nobody
Speaker 7: shows up in the plug requesting that.
Speaker 2: And so you so your wife, like we were never
Speaker 2: in a point scene with your wife or a woman
Speaker 2: and a dude.
Speaker 1: Do they youtta kiss it? I don't do. I kiss
Speaker 1: the girls, but she doesn't kiss the dudes. Oh but
Speaker 1: she's sucking the dude. Did Yeah? And you kissing? No,
Speaker 1: wash your mouth out, brush your teeth.
Speaker 7: Then we can get back to being the normal couple
Speaker 7: after the porn scene.
Speaker 1: But for sure I'm not.
Speaker 7: But you realize how freaky you are versus other dudes
Speaker 7: because in the orgy type environment or whatever, like you
Speaker 7: be fucking the girl and then you pull out and
Speaker 7: the other guy you think he's about the fuck her.
Speaker 1: No, he's eating her out. He did it.
Speaker 7: I've seen it in front of my eyes, and I realized, like, oh, okay,
Speaker 7: I'm not as freaky as y'all.
Speaker 2: Okay, you might want, you might want, So look, I
Speaker 2: don't got to explain myself.
Speaker 1: I know I don't come.
Speaker 2: Look, so do you feel that it's cool for a
Speaker 2: man to a female eat his ass?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 7: It's such a bonus when they decided to do that
Speaker 7: because I never expected.
Speaker 1: And then they do it, and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you are filthy, Like what the fuck? Believe it?
Speaker 2: White people did different than Black people, though I don't
Speaker 2: think I can stumble seeing.
Speaker 7: The The most recent ass eating that I received was
Speaker 7: from a beautiful black woman and I did not see
Speaker 7: it coming.
Speaker 1: She grabbed my leg, hoisted it up. She went to town. YO.
Speaker 1: Turn the ar on.
Speaker 6: His honesty, I with his honesty like.
Speaker 1: Bring her up, bring herund the screen so that we
Speaker 1: can get a judgment. Call. Uh you got a picture.
Speaker 7: I felt like the luckiest man on earth. My girl
Speaker 7: was riding my dick, and all of a sudden, this
Speaker 7: girl starts doing this, and I'm just like, holy fuck.
Speaker 1: Oh manka, So yeah, I don't not open on the camera. Please.
Speaker 1: She could work in Magic City? Right, what is the
Speaker 1: the light skinned one?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 6: No, no, So this is the one that as she's
Speaker 6: interesting looking.
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, all right, yeah, that's what she ain't never
Speaker 2: ever did it to know black man.
Speaker 5: She ain't never had sex with a black man in
Speaker 5: her life, that black girl.
Speaker 1: And I was very troubled by that. So you have
Speaker 1: we got like in the point scene, you got Grosstein's
Speaker 1: head to lead. Nah, I'm along for the rod. I'm
Speaker 1: a trooper.
Speaker 7: We got to get the job done, you master troller bro.
Speaker 7: I'm being honest, Like, people don't realize once you start
Speaker 7: doing the porn. Now it starts to feel less like fuck, yeah,
Speaker 7: we're all having sex, and more like, all right, let's
Speaker 7: get the shit done. We're all gonna work together. We're
Speaker 7: gonna get this thing done. Because you know, nobody wants
Speaker 7: to leave at eight pm. You want to get out
Speaker 7: of there at five pm or whatever. So it's like,
Speaker 7: you know, we need we need forty minutes of content. Well,
Speaker 7: let's get the work. I'm being real man. Anyone who
Speaker 7: does porn can tell you it's a job. We gotta
Speaker 7: work on this project together. Let's get to town. Let's
Speaker 7: get doing it.
Speaker 1: This is a job. Let's get it. Let's get her
Speaker 1: to the job. Though.
Speaker 8: So before the porn you were a very heavy add
Speaker 8: BMX rider.
Speaker 6: Yep, how did you get into that?
Speaker 7: When I was twelve, that was just like the cool
Speaker 7: shit to do around town. All the kids were riding bikes.
Speaker 6: And I just started between BMX and regular bike riding.
Speaker 7: For like the people that don't know freestyle BMX is like,
Speaker 7: you know, the kids in the neighborhood were just like
Speaker 7: bunny hopping over a little trash cans and doing wheelies
Speaker 7: down the street and stuff. And that was just how
Speaker 7: everybody in my neighborhood was getting around when they were
Speaker 7: like twelve years old. And then I just got like
Speaker 7: way deeper than everybody else into the magazines and the
Speaker 7: videos and filming, and you know, everybody else got cars
Speaker 7: by the time I was graduating high school and I
Speaker 7: was just still so into it, and I ended up
Speaker 7: moving to New York City because that was like where
Speaker 7: the best BMX scene in the world was at the time,
Speaker 7: and I just spent years and years just riding around
Speaker 7: every day with all these dudes out there, just going
Speaker 7: to skate parks and riding in different neighborhoods all over
Speaker 7: New York. Right and after I was only in New
Speaker 7: York for like a year or two, and I started
Speaker 7: a website about BMX bikes and it just blew up.
Speaker 7: And that was like the next ten years of my
Speaker 7: life just riding about bikes and and you know, doing
Speaker 7: interviews with people and stuff like that. And then at
Speaker 7: some point I realized that YouTube and Facebook and Twitter
Speaker 7: are gonna be huge, so I really started to invest
Speaker 7: time into that, and then I started interviewing, like doing
Speaker 7: a formal podcast, and like as soon as I started
Speaker 7: doing the podcast, I was also going to all these
Speaker 7: underground rap shows around LA and shit, like basically like
Speaker 7: the SoundCloud Rap wave, and I just started interviewing a
Speaker 7: bunch of rappers that I was around, and all of
Speaker 7: a sudden, those were getting just way more views than
Speaker 7: what I was doing in the BMX shit, and like
Speaker 7: I have been like a lifelong obsessed hip hop fan,
Speaker 7: but yeah, at that point, it was like, oh shit,
Speaker 7: this is how I can actually have involvement in it
Speaker 7: because I was always just listened to it and was
Speaker 7: just watching videos and that was just a normal night
Speaker 7: with me and my BMX friends. We'd just sit on
Speaker 7: the couch and watch rap videos for hours and hours
Speaker 7: and hours smoking weed. And you know, I was a
Speaker 7: big fan of his music right before I got into
Speaker 7: the No Jumper thing.
Speaker 8: Because you know, Jumper actually came out of a verse
Speaker 8: of one of Gucci Man's songs.
Speaker 7: The Goat Yeah, Yeah ninety five airbacks because I'm a
Speaker 7: dope runner ball like an athlete, but got No Jumper's breaks,
Speaker 7: which I thought was a great metaphor for what I
Speaker 7: was doing. Because I kind of knew that I couldn't
Speaker 7: get the A listers. I'm like, I'm going to interview
Speaker 7: underground wrappers, managers, people who work at labels, DJs, whoever,
Speaker 7: like anyone I can get in with to try to
Speaker 7: like just get as many cool interviews as possible. So
Speaker 7: when Gucci says I'm bond like an athlete, but got
Speaker 7: no jumper.
Speaker 1: He's saying, you know, I made my money doing other things.
Speaker 7: But I still got it on the court, which I
Speaker 7: found pretty inspirational at that time.
Speaker 1: You know, hello, how long you've been doing it?
Speaker 7: Damn near ten years but really nine. But I was
Speaker 7: doing the BMX stuff interviews for like a year before that,
Speaker 7: so it feels like ten, but I'll celebrate ten when
Speaker 7: we actually get there.
Speaker 1: Also, you you was doing bm in addition didn't working
Speaker 1: at like that.
Speaker 7: It was working out and we were basically like the
Speaker 7: biggest thing in our field. But it also was like
Speaker 7: I just saw there being like so much more opportunity,
Speaker 7: Like hip hop is just like a thousand times bigger
Speaker 7: than the BMX shit. So I still will interview BMX
Speaker 7: riders from time to time. I'll still go pop out
Speaker 7: at an event or a BMX street ride type thing,
Speaker 7: but I had just been doing it for like twenty
Speaker 7: years at that point, and I was just like ready
Speaker 7: to do something else that felt like more of a challenge.
Speaker 7: And with no jumper, I felt like, oh, this is
Speaker 7: insane because I don't even just have to interview rappers.
Speaker 7: I can interview people with clothing lines and YouTubers and
Speaker 7: comedians and porns to all these different things I was
Speaker 7: interested in. So it just felt like incredibly limitless in
Speaker 7: comparison to the BMX shit, where I was really starting
Speaker 7: to feel like I have done everything I could possibly
Speaker 7: do already.
Speaker 4: You know, will you be here about all these podcast
Speaker 4: deals and then I sports deals and the twenties and
Speaker 4: thirties and forties and fifties and hundreds of millions and
Speaker 4: all that?
Speaker 1: What's the path to that? What you think?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 1: How we all get you? Tell me? Man, I have
Speaker 1: no fuck trying to ask you, because we try.
Speaker 7: I heard Gillian Waller talking about one hundred million dollar
Speaker 7: podcast offers, and shit, I'm like, Okay, sounds amazing, but
Speaker 7: I don't I don't personally understand, so I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the recruit the recouping process has to be crazy.
Speaker 7: They do have a lot of ads, but yeah, can
Speaker 7: you guys talk to him about his Atlanta history because
Speaker 7: I feel like the world needs.
Speaker 1: To know you guys know. I guess that is unfair
Speaker 1: because I know I personally don't his way. She called
Speaker 1: me that's originally that's but didn't go from ship.
Speaker 4: They know, they know, they know what but what didn't
Speaker 4: go from that to n p A Ship Control Baby,
Speaker 4: Okay for sure.
Speaker 1: Sanchez, Yeah, Crew Hopper.
Speaker 5: And then after that, so what happened? I know, crew happened.
Speaker 1: I'm still n p A. He's no jumper brick. We
Speaker 1: got him now, we got him, Save Jesus, go ahead.
Speaker 2: We was nice enough the name because you know, everybody
Speaker 2: know me and shitty in the streets. But then we
Speaker 2: wrapping now because we were doing the shitty one ton
Speaker 2: of shrow sentences and it was NPA Shit Tru, So
Speaker 2: we thought that was nice enough for the radio.
Speaker 1: And then they like, well.
Speaker 2: Everybody in the industry already knows your name and shitty
Speaker 2: so they said, was like a cuss word.
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, go break baby. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, My mama.
Speaker 2: My first mixtape was Son of a Brick Lady hosted
Speaker 2: by Scream and Kid, and uh I put a West
Speaker 2: Coast DJ on there, Adrian Swish, but it was hosted
Speaker 2: by them, so I was like, son of a Break.
Speaker 1: Lady, Break Baby.
Speaker 2: I grew up all my parents, so that's all I see.
Speaker 2: You give what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: So but I uh I was at the point twenty
Speaker 7: fourteen or whatever, where I would download like off the
Speaker 7: hip hop blow that I would check. I would download
Speaker 7: any song that had a thug feature, and so he
Speaker 7: had a couple of thug features at the time. So
Speaker 7: I'm listening to him. And then one day I'm at
Speaker 7: this like warehouse party talking to some fucking random white
Speaker 7: girl who was selling on Xanax or something, and she
Speaker 7: starts talking about how there's.
Speaker 1: This guy, brick Baby, and how he had all these well.
Speaker 7: Had her whole kitchen filled up with just boxes and
Speaker 7: boxes and boxes and god knows what.
Speaker 1: And I'm like him, I'm like, brick Baby, shit, tro
Speaker 1: the guy that I've been listening to those songs fromhim's.
Speaker 7: Trapping out your fucking living room. I didn't even meet
Speaker 7: him from years after that case.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, we were licking it in.
Speaker 2: I ended up we were supposed to fill my first
Speaker 2: interview the Monday, and I got locked up on Saturday
Speaker 2: and I had no bill. I was in the county
Speaker 2: for four years, three and a half. He came home
Speaker 2: and got right back to it.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 4: How you end up getting from out west to like
Speaker 4: what was how did that happen?
Speaker 1: How did you get out here.
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Now? What happened.
Speaker 2: I got I used to hope so but I got
Speaker 2: deemed ineligible with my twelfth grade year because I came
Speaker 2: back from uh boarding school basketball prep school in eleventh
Speaker 2: grade in Mississippi were playing against my Tellis and all them.
Speaker 1: I come back.
Speaker 2: They started a new little rule about transfers from out
Speaker 2: of state because the coaches were scouting and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Because I got sent off. I had caught a case
Speaker 2: and then like they was like, you go to juvenile
Speaker 2: or you can move them out of town. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You know, they be reasoning with your parents.
Speaker 2: So I ended up going to a boarding school out there.
Speaker 2: I come back Clark like the only place where they
Speaker 2: was trying to give me action that playing because I
Speaker 2: don't got no twelfth grade status, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I ended up coming out here. Then twin Is
Speaker 2: my cousin being the blue and all them. So yeah,
Speaker 2: shout out to fam. So when I came here, it
Speaker 2: was five and it was like right at the end
Speaker 2: of the BMM, but it was still going on. And
Speaker 2: that's how I got introduced to Atlanta. I was at Clark.
Speaker 2: Then I ended up getting kicked out of school for uh,
Speaker 2: like packs oke, How did you meet Pee? Well, that's
Speaker 2: like my brother in law. Yeah yeah, uh big scene. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So he was yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: So one of Pee Wee's older brothers is my sister
Speaker 2: and boyfriend. So when Pee Wee came home from prison,
Speaker 2: were the same age. We on the same mission. I'm
Speaker 2: already kicked out of school doing my thing. Me and
Speaker 2: pee we gonna get an apartment together. It's just been
Speaker 2: that every single Yeah that was in Like he came
Speaker 2: home like seven, right when Jay Money had the first name,
Speaker 2: last name, and uh, that was my real introduction to
Speaker 2: Atlanta's one three. Well, no, Ali Boy was my first.
Speaker 2: Let me take that back. Yeah, I met Ali first
Speaker 2: when I was over there with y'all. Yeah, uh, all
Speaker 2: the way you know everybody east side. Yeah, that's exactly
Speaker 2: what I was doing. I was with Ali Trouble had
Speaker 2: just came home with seven and all that, yeah, and
Speaker 2: all that was going on.
Speaker 5: So I just I was from.
Speaker 1: The Yeah, I was from the trenches.
Speaker 5: And then I got with some people from the trenches
Speaker 5: out here. It felt comfortable, you know, stayed, yeah, migrated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because they're not doing like like the
Speaker 2: older people out here, they care about the young dudes.
Speaker 2: They gonna make sure they know one thing. Whatever you do,
Speaker 2: it get you swimming out there. It's not the same instructure.
Speaker 2: So I felt like, brother.
Speaker 6: What you mean by that? It's not the same instruction.
Speaker 2: We grew up like our big companies was putting us
Speaker 2: on the robbing banks and we just rabbing check cashers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was not like where you're able to be.
Speaker 5: The Yeah, like it's not a spot they can put
Speaker 5: you in.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna put give you Nobama, try you out
Speaker 2: and do all that type of stuff because they not
Speaker 2: doing it. Like like, uh, the Mexicans run the drug
Speaker 2: cartel world, I mean the drugs where I'm from. Like,
Speaker 2: if you know some Mexicans, then you don't have to
Speaker 2: do all that.
Speaker 1: So it's not a trapped area.
Speaker 2: It's either you ribbing, scamming, or you just murdering shit
Speaker 2: like you you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like out here.
Speaker 2: It's still some gaisous shit going on, but they gonna
Speaker 2: teach you no money to your spot. Yeah, everybody know
Speaker 2: I pull it up out here. I was nineteen. I
Speaker 2: put up on a sixteen year old he up in
Speaker 2: fifty sixty thousand.
Speaker 5: Them you talk about he he ain't been to school.
Speaker 2: With two years, not like that, not like it's something
Speaker 2: to glorify, but it's like, damn, it's the truth. When
Speaker 2: we dropped out of school, we was catching we was
Speaker 2: going inside banks and you know what I'm saying, all
Speaker 2: types of stuff like that. So it's different.
Speaker 7: You just might like it might be kind of invisible
Speaker 7: to you because you've been around it for so long.
Speaker 7: But there's definitely like a hustler spirit in Atlanta that
Speaker 7: I think is like the influence of just like how
Speaker 7: many great entrepreneurs and how many huge artists have like
Speaker 7: came out of Atlanta. That like there's a real belief
Speaker 7: in the dream of being able to find the artist
Speaker 7: to create something out of thin air. And sometimes in
Speaker 7: la like on more of a street level, it feels
Speaker 7: like that there's less belief in that for sure.
Speaker 5: Sure, that's crazy, Yeah, y'all.
Speaker 2: Unity I've been here for a long time, Like I
Speaker 2: have seen two crews beefy, But when it was time
Speaker 2: to do their features and tours and all that, and
Speaker 2: then money came into play, they all straightened. Whatever it
Speaker 2: was and left it to the street level and kept
Speaker 2: they business business. The street level trinkles over into the
Speaker 2: business out there to where you can't.
Speaker 6: Even operate, like you can't function.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does sometimes too though y'ays just ain't gonna
Speaker 2: see Yeah, I know. But as far as the like
Speaker 2: the overall, they don't be against it, not for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like if it's like you know, they ain't doing no
Speaker 2: song together. But like I'm just talking about like run
Speaker 2: off here.
Speaker 5: Yea, yeah, you know what I'm saying, man, Man, that's
Speaker 5: all yeah man.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: They said anything else when I get big.
Speaker 1: How did the interview with Pop Smokes a legit killer
Speaker 1: come about?
Speaker 7: So we know a bunch of people who are real
Speaker 7: close to him that uh we thought there were actual
Speaker 7: blood brothers, but it turned out that they were just
Speaker 7: like real close friends and uh they got in touch
Speaker 7: with us when he got out, and there was there
Speaker 7: was talk of a few different people doing the interview,
Speaker 7: but ultimately I just decided that I felt like I
Speaker 7: could do a really good job of the interview and
Speaker 7: it was a story that I thought was important for
Speaker 7: people to hear. And I feel like, you know, some
Speaker 7: time like it's so frequent and so common that we
Speaker 7: interview people that we admire and that have mostly contributed
Speaker 7: good to the world, And I just thought, like, you
Speaker 7: know what, this is an important story for us to
Speaker 7: get the lowdown on, and to me, like the fact
Speaker 7: that this is a person who did something like extremely evil,
Speaker 7: I just still felt like this is an important part
Speaker 7: of hip hop history for us to document. And the
Speaker 7: truth is is that like coming from the neighbor of thehood,
Speaker 7: the neighborhood that he's from, It's like this is part
Speaker 7: of just la street shit too.
Speaker 1: Like everybody I know was dying to see that interview.
Speaker 7: So ultimately, like when I say that, like we don't
Speaker 7: necessarily get the super A list or interviews, it's like
Speaker 7: we gravitate more towards the street level shit. I felt
Speaker 7: like it was almost like my duty to do that
Speaker 7: shit for our audience because so many people were hitting
Speaker 7: me up about it and we're curious about who this
Speaker 7: kid was and shit like that. So ultimately, I didn't
Speaker 7: have any kind of moral qualms about platforming.
Speaker 1: I thought it was important. Was any part of it uncomfortable? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like.
Speaker 7: During it, the fact that he felt so like he
Speaker 7: had such a hard time expressing any kind of remorse,
Speaker 7: And you really got like a window into like a
Speaker 7: young ass kid who just spent like four or five
Speaker 7: of his developmental years locked up, and yeah, I think
Speaker 7: you are killed in twenty twenty. And you know, just
Speaker 7: like he's been trained and molded to like not be
Speaker 7: able to express remorse even in a situation like that.
Speaker 7: And I was almost having to like put the words
Speaker 7: in his mouth, like I said, I use this as
Speaker 7: an example. I said, if I drive home from here
Speaker 7: today and I accidentally hit somebody with my car and
Speaker 7: they die, I'm going to feel horrible, beyond belief. Even
Speaker 7: if I know in my heart of hearts that I
Speaker 7: was looking at the road they just walked right out
Speaker 7: into the street. I did not intend to do this.
Speaker 7: I'm still going to feel horrible. And when I was
Speaker 7: saying that, he was like horrible that is He's like
Speaker 7: that's how I felt. And I was like, damn, that's
Speaker 7: so crazy that like his upbringing and his street code
Speaker 7: that he goes by or whatever, and the way that
Speaker 7: they think of their ops or their their beef situations
Speaker 7: or whatever, like it was like he was unable to
Speaker 7: express remorse. Without me kind of like prompting him, and
Speaker 7: that was like so sad for me to see.
Speaker 1: I ain't see it.
Speaker 2: I ain't see it, but it needs to be trying
Speaker 2: to basically stick to shit.
Speaker 1: Bro, he made me she shouldn't. What could he say? Why?
Speaker 1: He said he shot too much movement? Yeah, they pulled
Speaker 1: up on him and he was trying to fight back.
Speaker 2: Basically, Oh for real, he so do who you interviewed
Speaker 2: he was to shoot him.
Speaker 7: It's it's unclear, but it kind of seems to me
Speaker 7: like the person who shot him is probably still locked up.
Speaker 7: And he was the youngest one, so he ended up
Speaker 7: taking a certain amount of the charges or something like that.
Speaker 7: That's that's kind of what he was hinting at off camera.
Speaker 7: So I feel like he might not have been the
Speaker 7: one who actually pulled the trigger.
Speaker 2: Well, because in California are they doing that here with
Speaker 2: the youth?
Speaker 5: And they charged? How they went back and I charged?
Speaker 2: They still charging, getting the whole thing. But if you
Speaker 2: know you did something, Yeah.
Speaker 5: So in La it ain't no more none of that.
Speaker 2: If you under the age of seventeen or seventeen when
Speaker 2: you commit that crime, there's no way you could be charged.
Speaker 2: As an adult, the max time you could get his
Speaker 2: juvenile life, and it used to be to twenty five,
Speaker 2: but now it's either twenty three or twenty one.
Speaker 5: So it don't matter how old you was.
Speaker 2: If you was fifteen, you would have did to you
Speaker 2: was twenty three, But if you're seventeen, you're still doing
Speaker 2: the same thing.
Speaker 5: You geel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So this is the first time that we were able
Speaker 2: to ever see somebody really kill a rapper get out
Speaker 2: of jail and speak about it.
Speaker 1: Like there's a rapper from up north Sacramento. They just
Speaker 1: started this shit. Yeah, this is serious.
Speaker 5: It just started like two years ago.
Speaker 7: But this dude X rated from up northern California. He
Speaker 7: basically got into a shootout, went to go kill somebody
Speaker 7: I believe with a couple of his friends, and ended
Speaker 7: up killing the dude's grandma by accident. And he went
Speaker 7: down for like twenty five years and got out, and
Speaker 7: like you know, I did an interview with him. I
Speaker 7: just interviewed him again, but I interviewed him like three
Speaker 7: four years ago, and he explained that during the interview
Speaker 7: that like they used his lyrics against him that they
Speaker 7: can't do legally now they charged him as an adult
Speaker 7: even though he was underage, which they can't do now.
Speaker 7: So you know, like I think about somebody like X Rated.
Speaker 7: I'm doing an interview with him. He killed somebody or
Speaker 7: was at least involved in killing somebody, and but we
Speaker 7: had to wait twenty five years to hear his story.
Speaker 7: And that was the shocking part. I think about the
Speaker 7: block Star kid who was responsible for the Pop Smoke thing,
Speaker 7: because you get to hear his story like four years
Speaker 7: later when he's still very young. And I mean, I
Speaker 7: guess like the biggest difference between them is Pop Smoke
Speaker 7: killed the beloved hip hop icon and Blockstar or X
Speaker 7: Rated killed you know, an older woman that we don't
Speaker 7: know or was involved with killing.
Speaker 1: And uh, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I just felt like it was important for me to
Speaker 7: be like ideologically consistent, like I've seen, you know, Vlad
Speaker 7: got someone ship for inter of you a no plug
Speaker 7: back in the day. I felt like he did the
Speaker 7: right thing. You let him tell the story in a
Speaker 7: situation that people really didn't understand at that time.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 2: People interviewing Jiang and Ace and all these rappers that
Speaker 2: killed the civilian, the person that ain't nobody.
Speaker 5: They don't get no backlash about it. Like if it
Speaker 5: was if it was the other way.
Speaker 2: Around and popping them across somebody like and he would
Speaker 2: have been he would have took off hip hop. He
Speaker 2: would have been you know what I mean, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying this, you saying what you said. I say, had
Speaker 2: it been vice versa and it wasn't a move right
Speaker 2: and he just ended up killing the little dude that
Speaker 2: killed him just on some random just a different situation,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. He would have been looked
Speaker 2: at as like, oh he a popa Drea. He really
Speaker 2: with what you're saying, rapper, we don't give him no
Speaker 2: no ship. But when it go be vice versus like
Speaker 2: he the worst man in the world, like somebody, life
Speaker 2: is value. Like a seventeen year old repels in La
Speaker 2: killed the nigga got out did the four years he
Speaker 2: blowing up?
Speaker 7: He take can and honestly, the block star kid, if
Speaker 7: he puts on music and if it's halfway good, you're
Speaker 7: probably gonna see that.
Speaker 6: You gotta look at it like the civilian nigga isn't popular.
Speaker 6: That's the whole.
Speaker 8: That's the whole, Like difference to the ship, Like this
Speaker 8: rap nigga is popular, so it's like, so you took
Speaker 8: one of our heroes. But if it's a regular nigga,
Speaker 8: like he might be a hero to somebody, but he's
Speaker 8: not a hero to most like.
Speaker 1: The rap nigga, So that don't make it good.
Speaker 8: No, I'm not saying that that's what shoot somebody here
Speaker 8: and makes him hated.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm saying that's the difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, that's and that's why it's like, you
Speaker 2: can't really be biased down to a point of like, oh,
Speaker 2: he killed him, so don't platform. But if it goes
Speaker 2: this way, the platform, dude, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like you just gotta let that rock.
Speaker 7: And right before I interviewed him, I interviewed Terrence Gangster Williams,
Speaker 7: who allegedly has like forty plus bodies who do he
Speaker 7: killed a bunch of gang members in New Orleans back
Speaker 7: in the day that we don't know. And it's like,
Speaker 7: is this fair that one person is forbidden from doing
Speaker 7: interviews because he killed somebody beloved, while I can have
Speaker 7: a conversation with somebody who killed forty people because it's
Speaker 7: convenient to me that I don't know who they were.
Speaker 7: I mean, I just felt like it was more important
Speaker 7: to be consistent.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but that's in a perfect world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you let do you let like in your interviews,
Speaker 4: will you always let it all the way right or
Speaker 4: do y'all do edit? Sometimes there are times where you say, man,
Speaker 4: we got to take this out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we definitely take stuff out if it's shit the
Speaker 7: you know, if somebody asked me, like, hey, I said this,
Speaker 7: I feel like it might incriminate me or whatever. For sure,
Speaker 7: we're happy to oblige. I mean, when it can get
Speaker 7: kind of annoying is when people like people will say
Speaker 7: that like oh, yeah, I broke up with my girl,
Speaker 7: and then they get back with their girl and they
Speaker 7: want me to edit the whole fucking interview to make
Speaker 7: it seem like they were never.
Speaker 6: Broke up with their girl.
Speaker 7: And I'm like, Okay, this feels like you're crossing some
Speaker 7: kind of line that I don't want to be involved with.
Speaker 7: Or maybe you should have just not done the interview
Speaker 7: if you were that unclear on what's going on in
Speaker 7: your life. But yeah, I mean, I'm not trying to
Speaker 7: get anybody in trouble, you know, I kind of I
Speaker 7: learned that from Lad when he told me that before
Speaker 7: you interviewed the baby, he called the police station and
Speaker 7: made sure it was a closed case.
Speaker 1: The Walmart situation.
Speaker 7: He wanted to make sure that he wasn't doing an
Speaker 7: interview with somebody who might have to deal with legal consequence.
Speaker 4: So when you hear that and we're just keeping the
Speaker 4: real in the culture, when people say like Lad and
Speaker 4: Adam or the police and just like, what is what
Speaker 4: goes through your mind? Now you're kind of setting it
Speaker 4: straight for the people you did. It was saying, but
Speaker 4: some people have attacked and said, oh, they don't really
Speaker 4: know the whole story, so this information might have led
Speaker 4: to this or this or whatever the case is, Like
Speaker 4: in your mind, you just blow it off.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't begrudge anybody their opinion.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, like, up until very recently,
Speaker 7: I had never had my content mentioned in a investigation,
Speaker 7: investigation or whatever. But there was actually like a scammer
Speaker 7: who I interviewed who ended up having my interview quoted
Speaker 7: in all his paperwork, and shit, no, I wish it
Speaker 7: WASJJ six man. It was just like a random dude.
Speaker 7: But that was the first time that happened to me.
Speaker 7: I feel like Vlad had his first one too. That
Speaker 7: happened recently where there was a quote from one of
Speaker 7: his lyrics they got you or or no it was
Speaker 7: it was some keepy d shit.
Speaker 2: I think, oh, yeah, they got you.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't digrudge anybody their opinion.
Speaker 7: You know, Like usually if somebody has the opinion that
Speaker 7: I'm like a fed or that I'm trying to get
Speaker 7: people locked up, it's probably somebody who's like seeing a
Speaker 7: couple of clips, doesn't really watch my shit.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, everybody's allowed to have their opinion.
Speaker 7: I feel like I just got to do the best
Speaker 7: content that I can to try to change their opinion
Speaker 7: if that might be the outcome, you know.
Speaker 1: But I don't really trip about it too much.
Speaker 2: To be en carriage the youth to stop talk about
Speaker 2: open is like when it's not cool, Like you got
Speaker 2: a situation, it doesn't matter what anybody asked you. You
Speaker 2: got the right to skip to the next question and
Speaker 2: it won't be no smoke, no nothing.
Speaker 1: Who who what art do you think you had? On?
Speaker 7: Know?
Speaker 1: Just was just lying like ah, man, I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's been a few he ain't got no artists. It's
Speaker 1: anybody you think, man.
Speaker 7: I mean, there's been a few people that came on
Speaker 7: and were talking like they were super gangster and then
Speaker 7: we found out they were telling. So that's always a
Speaker 7: little shocking. Oh man, I feel bad calling him out.
Speaker 7: But there was this dude g Face from l A Who.
Speaker 7: And I only bring him up because he basically like
Speaker 7: was bringing ship around us. That was like way extra yeah,
Speaker 7: like trying to get us to do drugs with him
Speaker 7: and ship. Now when I think about it, and I'm like,
Speaker 7: holy fuck, Like that's crazy.
Speaker 2: He call me one day he had hair run on
Speaker 2: a stick torch. I'm like, man, what the fuck is
Speaker 2: you call to me doing this for? He invited me
Speaker 2: to his house. He got type of ship out. I'm like, Bro,
Speaker 2: you know I'm a content creator.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I never bro. You know, we from certain
Speaker 1: stuff not supposed to be out. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And it's like this this the you got big bazookas
Speaker 5: and ship?
Speaker 2: Did you like, Bro? You live in life like you
Speaker 2: have no cares in the world. And I kind of
Speaker 2: was like catching on to what he was doing. And
Speaker 2: it was like I blocked him and I and then
Speaker 2: like eight months later it came.
Speaker 5: Out, like I'm like, oh yeah, that's come out. He
Speaker 5: called a fraud case.
Speaker 7: He had like a trucking business, and I actually knew
Speaker 7: a bunch of people that were like, I'm thinking about
Speaker 7: getting into the trucking business with him, and I remember
Speaker 7: just being like.
Speaker 1: I had enough.
Speaker 2: He told me like and turned into a gangsta, went
Speaker 2: off the fraud again.
Speaker 1: He was a gangster before that, I guess.
Speaker 2: But he's been telling us. It's like, oh yeah, seven
Speaker 2: he's been working for him the old time. So in
Speaker 2: his pace this whatever, he catch the fraud case and
Speaker 2: they go into a bell hearing and he's saying that
Speaker 2: he can't sit in jail because he green lighted by
Speaker 2: the Mexican mafia because he's been telling it been a
Speaker 2: formant and they know and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: and everything starts twinkling up.
Speaker 6: So he's like a season direct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're telling them missians want he was telling Cannon
Speaker 1: be lying like a motherfucker tudo. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know, mischigans. I mean he told because he's the
Speaker 1: g fense.
Speaker 7: Dude is Armenian, which he basically is in like a
Speaker 7: Mexican gang in La So that's kind of their whole.
Speaker 1: There there, Armenian. He's de a different type of Armenium.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, mexical't really tell you can't tell them
Speaker 2: a little mission.
Speaker 5: So I just got it.
Speaker 2: I just instantly got it to it with the south Siders,
Speaker 2: the media south Siders, because I said that on our
Speaker 2: podcast and they recently just tried to deflect the ship
Speaker 2: out of it. But the facts are, we've been to
Speaker 2: prisons and we've known, we've seen it happen. So I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's stopped now, but you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, we do know that. Yeah, but they say
Speaker 2: is not They say that it's not a technique of war.
Speaker 2: And we lying if somebody tell that they not accepted
Speaker 2: in their culture period.
Speaker 1: Huh, you believe it?
Speaker 5: Hey man, compleat the fifth I'd have been in jail
Speaker 5: red paperwork.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna leave it at that. But he's saying,
Speaker 1: do you believe that you would operate under those rules?
Speaker 2: No, that they don't operate them. And I gave them
Speaker 2: the smoothest no I could give them without trying to
Speaker 2: start race war. With the gangs back at home man
Speaker 2: big Baby speaking on the south side of just telling facts.
Speaker 2: That's why they, you know, were on Big Facts. Hey,
Speaker 2: who else who is them? Came on the line?
Speaker 1: Uh we might know. I got to think that sounds
Speaker 1: like a good YouTube video.
Speaker 7: Ten No Jumper interviews who snitched or who lied?
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's hard to say.
Speaker 6: I know it's right there on the tip, madam, Come on,
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean ship.
Speaker 7: It's usually not that cutting dry faces, like the most
Speaker 7: cutting dry when I can think of.
Speaker 2: All right, what about somebody you don't seen on the
Speaker 2: podcast like this nigga for the line, not even just
Speaker 2: on your ship man Lose Cannon. Oh no, that's the
Speaker 2: dude that know. That was the dude for the for
Speaker 2: the Nipsey for that said that. Nipsey called him thirty
Speaker 2: minutes before it, said Big You.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought that, y'all said, what that wrapped up
Speaker 1: everybody in the bubble? Yeah whatever, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: He just got on there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but he got on there and talk
Speaker 2: about he talked to Big You thirty minutes before Nipsey died,
Speaker 2: Big You said, Nipsey was dead.
Speaker 5: Then thirty minutes later he died.
Speaker 2: So he was trying to say it was a conspiracy
Speaker 2: theory that big you got Nipsey that ship.
Speaker 5: Was, he said, he got the video of the FaceTime.
Speaker 2: He the photo shop some ship set to the screenshot
Speaker 2: of a bullshit face time all type of ship will
Speaker 2: put a whole murder conspiracy on somebody.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Damn, And it was a
Speaker 5: lot for showline.
Speaker 1: That what I'm saying a for showline.
Speaker 2: So damn damn.
Speaker 1: That man, these people sit on your podcast.
Speaker 7: I I had to take that one down because Big
Speaker 7: U hit me with the season desist. So shout out
Speaker 7: to Whack one hundred for bringing louse cannon on and
Speaker 7: get me wrapped up and some ship per usual. But
Speaker 7: and shit, Whack definitely gets me in some ship.
Speaker 1: Wow, what are you doing?
Speaker 7: Just being himself, just talking, saying whatever the fuck it
Speaker 7: feels like saying on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Wagen, what's the name beefing? You beefing? Yeah? Why they
Speaker 1: beef ship? That's a complicated question.
Speaker 2: Because the wag be lying Wack be lying, Nah, they
Speaker 2: was best friends at one point, I know, So it's
Speaker 2: like it's like at that point. You know, when mother
Speaker 2: fucker be with a nigga every day. I can't even
Speaker 2: tell you why they really beefing say, but it's all
Speaker 2: types of stories on the internet. What happened is they
Speaker 2: one played into the internet and it trinkled over to
Speaker 2: the other one happened to respond on the internet. Now
Speaker 2: you got these people that mean thing ain't never lived
Speaker 2: in LA, never lived in a society, controlling a beef,
Speaker 2: not letting it settle down, or whatever the case is.
Speaker 2: And then you know, when somebody wake up emotional, they
Speaker 2: might say something to give up a story about some
Speaker 2: something that you know that you ain't supposed to be
Speaker 2: talking like that, no way to where some words. You know,
Speaker 2: you can get over some words, but then there's certain
Speaker 2: situations that you get put in that just ain't.
Speaker 5: That's unforgivable.
Speaker 2: We could be cool and not want to shoot at
Speaker 2: each other, but it's just like we can't rekindle what
Speaker 2: was going on? Who the biggest fraud from LA that
Speaker 2: we might not know life if y'all know life, Man,
Speaker 2: if y'all only knew the stories about this dude, but.
Speaker 1: Blew up what I mean? You've been around long and men,
Speaker 1: shit the biggest fraud that blew up. Now y'all trying
Speaker 1: to give you in the I don't know, ain't like
Speaker 1: you said.
Speaker 2: You can just always say bronna la or weed out
Speaker 2: the frauds pretty quick, don't he thinks.
Speaker 7: But then sometimes you get some good people behind fraud
Speaker 7: and all of a sudden they start looking pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that definitely happens too. Yeah, No, are what I fucked?
Speaker 1: G I know, I know everybody do.
Speaker 6: Why you Why the hell you say that?
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, you just asked me a question.
Speaker 1: That's cold.
Speaker 5: You asked the question.
Speaker 2: I would go just go ahead and go past it,
Speaker 2: skip it. I'm just saying, you know, he'd just been
Speaker 2: through a couple of different phases of it. Was like
Speaker 2: he a good person, genuin person. I guess you get
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. With the fraudulent activities.
Speaker 7: Ship See whack Wack said basically this exact thing, but
Speaker 7: in way more words the other day.
Speaker 1: And I already was like, Oh God, sit on your pucket.
Speaker 1: He's saying it too. Ship. Oh he said it. Whack
Speaker 1: went on a little why GI ran the other day y'all,
Speaker 1: And it ain't even nothing to take nothing from it.
Speaker 1: But if you just saying, like.
Speaker 5: You know, his music career is his music career. I
Speaker 5: ain't nobody saying nothing about that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It might be not beat to every region's liking and
Speaker 2: all that shit, but his music career, he one of
Speaker 2: the biggest artists out the West Coast.
Speaker 5: But you under staying his route theory was kind of
Speaker 5: what do you know, cripping in blood, m doing both?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, scream you know what I'm saying. It must
Speaker 1: be two sides like that. Damn.
Speaker 2: But nah, like I said, his rap career and he
Speaker 2: is a genuine person, are businessman, and he did a
Speaker 2: lot for the West Coast. I could leave it there,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man. Okay, Okay, look.
Speaker 8: Before we before we end this or before we get
Speaker 8: this off or whatever, I have a five question rapid
Speaker 8: fire for Adam.
Speaker 1: Okay, are you ready?
Speaker 6: Okay, Democrat or Republican?
Speaker 1: Proud Democrat. We are voting Kamala into office?
Speaker 6: Okay? Suv or sports car?
Speaker 1: Mmm, I'm a dad, so I'm gonna go SUV.
Speaker 6: Keep it practical, Okay, White sand beach or mountain cabin.
Speaker 1: Oh, definitely the beach. Yeah, Okay, Vegan or meat Lover,
Speaker 1: Meat Lover, paus.
Speaker 8: Bring on the beech last one cream pie or painted
Speaker 8: face cream pie or what painted face?
Speaker 7: Oh, well, you're doing port. It's all about telling the stories.
Speaker 7: So it's not much of a story if you're burrowing
Speaker 7: it away inside of her. You get to put it
Speaker 7: out there for the world to see.
Speaker 1: What what what?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 4: What's some What's some stuff that's coming up that might
Speaker 4: just be exclusive information or just something very entertaining, like
Speaker 4: some interview that might be coming or in the works
Speaker 4: or something like that.
Speaker 1: Ship. That's a good question.
Speaker 4: Man said, you spent some time, have y'all said with Charston? No,
Speaker 4: he decided very early on. He said I was not
Speaker 4: his type of white boy. Okay, And then you're saying
Speaker 4: you were looking at with him in the.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he caught the police me several times.
Speaker 1: What man, remember that. That's what I got into it.
Speaker 5: He was talking about Nipsey I was.
Speaker 1: I was in Houston. I put somebody up it.
Speaker 5: I said, tell him I got to die Charleston white head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said.
Speaker 2: He talked about we got back baby and crypt down here.
Speaker 2: Police never got it. I have never seen him in
Speaker 2: my life, but Charles.
Speaker 1: Trolling with that police. Yeah, but because that nigga be blacking.
Speaker 1: He always be bucketing. When you see a.
Speaker 2: Nigname one nigga in the hood that play like that,
Speaker 2: ain't any playing when you see that run up on
Speaker 2: that nigga.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I told everybody in every interview when we were beefit,
Speaker 2: I said, I'm running from him when I see me
Speaker 2: two nagers, you gonna call the police shoot and you
Speaker 2: don't do if I miss this over with? If if
Speaker 2: I missed, he might shoot me. I mean, if you
Speaker 2: don't got it, he called it the police.
Speaker 5: You can't be that niggascible man.
Speaker 1: You got to let him have it. Man, that nigga crazy.
Speaker 1: But new stuff that we got going on.
Speaker 7: We just dropped the first ever no Jumper cipher with
Speaker 7: Brick Almighty Flocko Lush one Almighty Suspect. That's an almighty
Speaker 7: poetic Flocko and then me, it was my first time
Speaker 7: ever rapping, so at forty forty years old, they dropped
Speaker 7: my first step rap and real pretty much. I got
Speaker 7: some help from Brick and Lush, but I wrote.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 7: I'm more of a studio rapper. I need to really
Speaker 7: take my time with my arm I'm like a little
Speaker 7: uzzy turning down wrapping on the on the radio in
Speaker 7: New York. Yeah, I'm just such a rock star. I gotta,
Speaker 7: I gotta. Everything I put out into the universe has
Speaker 7: to be very calculated.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest artist in the game is, right.
Speaker 7: The biggest rapper ship probably Drake and the little guy
Speaker 7: who's beefing with Drake and uh.
Speaker 5: Who else he ain't gonna be shoot the Kendrick.
Speaker 1: I'm salty about the super Bowl thing. Man.
Speaker 2: Wow, well he obtained a picture of Drake's little missile
Speaker 2: First Love with the size of Drake.
Speaker 5: Oh man, it's on some ship like that.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, No, but it was like going for Drake.
Speaker 7: Before Drake's dick pics really leaked. I was on set
Speaker 7: of Pluck Talk. We're doing some orgy type thing or whatever,
Speaker 7: and there's a girl and she's she goes to me,
Speaker 7: she's she's looking at her phone with my girl and
Speaker 7: she goes, oh my, and my girl goes, oh my God,
Speaker 7: don't show Adam. We're never going to hear the end
Speaker 7: of it.
Speaker 1: I go, what is it?
Speaker 7: She goes, I'm showing her Drake's dick pics. I'm like,
Speaker 7: what I go over she shows me. She goes all
Speaker 7: the way back to her Instagram she showed. She opens
Speaker 7: up her DMS, clicks on his name, scrolls back through.
Speaker 7: If you got a hell at Drake Dick Picks, I'm like,
Speaker 7: what the fuck? This dude is out of his damn
Speaker 7: mind sending the ship around the girls like you who
Speaker 7: are just gonna show me? And then the worst part
Speaker 7: about that, I've seen her rooting for Kendrick.
Speaker 1: They not like us. That's when I really knew it
Speaker 1: was a cold game. Man, nail bagging about a year.
Speaker 1: So basically, how you felt bout that Dick Pitt? What
Speaker 1: did it? Was impressive? I know it's I don't want
Speaker 1: to see it. Man, lights to stride, come in.
Speaker 8: To the.
Speaker 1: Didn't work, man, loot, appreciate, appreciate the screen the niggas.
Speaker 1: It was impressive. You a master troll.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, You've not really Trump. You're just kind
Speaker 1: of keeping it real. I got it.
Speaker 7: I'm in the porn business. I gotta be able to
Speaker 7: tell greatness from mediocrity. You let Drake hit your way, Nah,
Speaker 7: trained professionals only.
Speaker 6: I mean, oh so that's the difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been doing this for fun all these years.
Speaker 1: I need a real swordsman.
Speaker 9: Oh man, y'all be having cock fights. Nah, we don't
Speaker 9: tap them together. We never tapped them. Do you think
Speaker 9: it's like air drop when they hit together?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Does that weird you talk about this nigga y did
Speaker 2: you talk about the poor community?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Know too much, the poor community him and the poorn community.
Speaker 2: If you point on y'all probably like that ship ain't
Speaker 2: awkward being in there with another dude and your girl.
Speaker 1: You ever, anybody, no, shuck. That's an expert level ship
Speaker 1: right there.
Speaker 2: Is double penetration, Black Monday, Friday day in there, double penetration.
Speaker 1: I will never do double vaginal one in the bus
Speaker 1: one vagina. It's a thin one. It's pretty close.
Speaker 7: But I'm just saying that, like when you see the
Speaker 7: two dicks in the vagina at the same time, that
Speaker 7: ship is too.
Speaker 1: I would never.
Speaker 7: Ever, that's the freakiest ship I could think of.
Speaker 2: But that means if you do, that means nuts than
Speaker 2: you say in your sighs only nigga thighs and ship.
Speaker 7: But that's why they get the brothers with the tennis
Speaker 7: dicks to do it, because they can kind of like
Speaker 7: their ball. They're they're like further away from the end
Speaker 7: of their penis, so they're not like rubbing their bodies together,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 1: So she in the middle.
Speaker 2: So y'all looking at each other, Well, I never actually
Speaker 2: did this doing that. If somebody doing that, you he
Speaker 2: on the bottom, and you want to talk about vice versa.
Speaker 2: Y'all looking at each other eyes.
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at that weirdough. Hell no, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at my baby.
Speaker 6: My baby.
Speaker 7: Nobody high five before I hit an Eiffel Tower a
Speaker 7: couple of times, A good if, just to say you
Speaker 7: did it.
Speaker 1: You know, big facts, don't jumping. We appreciate you pulling up.
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