1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: I choose the topic, then it's ask me anything, one 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: more thing. I'm one more thing. I was trying to 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: decide how to present this information. I'm hesitant to do it. 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: I have a feeling I'm gonna wish I hadn't. Uh. 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: Oh boy. 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: I've always been quite willing to share lots about my 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: personal life on the air, for better or worse. I 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: have trouble not talking about things more than the other 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: way around. I get that, but I will. I will 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: share this all. Just I'm gonna lay out the topic 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: and then I think ask me anything would be the 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: best way to approach it. You guys can just interview 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: me on the. 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: Topic, Okay, right, which does not it's not called I 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: will answer anything. 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: No, that's plenty out. Yeah, yeah, fair enough. Two months 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: ago I entered the war. I'm embarrassed about this, by 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: the way. Oh boy, I'm embarrassed of this. I feel 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: bad about myself, but it's true. Anyway. Two months ago, 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: I entered the world of online dating. 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, by that I embarrassed by that, Yes I am, 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: because I had been saying for many, many years, we're 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: older than you, Katie. 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: You have grown up in a world where this is common. 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: I used to we used to regularly say on the air, 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: it's r O D at reeks of desperation, people who 27 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: are online dating times of change, times of change. Then 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: the numbers become the numbers have become overwhelming, and it's 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: just practically what everybody does. And uh, and I had, 30 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: as a single guy, realized, at some point, I go 31 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: to work, and then I go straight home and take 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: care of kids, and then I get up and go 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: to work again. And unless I end up in a 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: car crash with somebody roughly my age, it's also single 35 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: and I didn't cause the car, so they're not angry 36 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: at me. It's hard to imagine how I'm going to 37 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: run into anybody. I got chocolate in my peanut butter. Yeah, 38 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: it almost has to be one of those. 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, to do very slow fender benders, like five miles 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: an hour, just enough so none of the cars are damage. 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 4: To you just have to start seeing cute girls and 42 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: crashing into us. 43 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: Oh, we probably ought to see if there's a little damage. 44 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I'm a man who's willing to say 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: he's sorry when he's wrong. Hi, my name's Jack. 46 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: That's not a bad idea, I buy like a two 47 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: thousand and eight Corolla. No, I don't care if it 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: gets a few dents later a minute major dents, yeah, 49 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: grocery store sort of. Just oh dang, I wasn't looking, 50 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: but you're driving. 51 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: A seventeen year old Corona. 52 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: That would make me less appealing, wouldn't it is. I'm 53 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: still surprised that so many young people are doing online dating, 54 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: because I would think you'd still have the social structure. 55 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 1: You're going out a lot, and you know, with lots 56 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: of other people who singing, so you can still run 57 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: into people the normal Wait, no, no, they. 58 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 5: Lack the social skills. 59 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 4: I know so many young twenty somethings that are on 60 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 4: like five different apps. 61 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 5: It's amazing to me. 62 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: Well, I haven't done whether just a hookup or they 63 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: just they don't have the social skills to try to 64 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: get acquainted with somebody they don't know. 65 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on one app. Bumble. I chose that after 66 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of research. They're almost all all except 67 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: for two, are owned by the same company. Now match 68 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: dot Com went up out and bought all of the 69 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: names you've heard of of online dating, and they're all 70 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: owned by one company. Now, and there is a great 71 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: belief among people that have been doing it for years. 72 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: I've been doing it for eight weeks, but for people 73 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: who have been doing it for years that it's much 74 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: worse than it used to be. That the algorithms are 75 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: designed to keep you on there because you pay a 76 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: whatever it is, sixty dollars a month, and then you 77 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: pay per like liking somebody or whatever you buy likes. Anyway, 78 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: it's a great revenue stream, and there'd be great incentive 79 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: for the company to try to keep that going rather 80 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: than hey, we found it are we know who you 81 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: would like and they knew, we put you together, and 82 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: then you leave the app and we never make another 83 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: set from you, or we can dribble along people that 84 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: kind of might be interesting to you. 85 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Please that the incentive structure. 86 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: Is pretty easy to rit. Yes it is, Yes, for 87 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: what it's worth. 88 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: On the recent season of Only Murders in the Building, 89 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: the Steve Martin character is on various dating apps for 90 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: older folks, and I can't remember all the names of them, 91 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: but one of them is last gasp dot com. 92 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: That's funny. So anybody get any questions about this, I 93 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: am you. How's it going, Okay, how's it going. 94 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 2: So, do you have a very broad a detailed profile 95 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: up there? 96 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: I do have a detailed profile. I am doing incognito mode. 97 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's necessary or not. I remember 98 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: one of the things that sparked in my head, the 99 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: idea that maybe somebody I would be doing this when 100 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: I was single is I heard Chris Rock talking about it. 101 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: He said people were amazing to find me on I 102 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: forget what he was on, hinge ormatch dot com or 103 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: something like that, and he said with my name. He said, 104 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm on there with my name because that's my name. 105 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm single and I'm looking for someone to date and 106 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: that's my name. So that's kind of what I did. 107 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: But I have I do have a profile on there. 108 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing incognito mode, which is you're not out in 109 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: the world for everybody to see you. I didn't want 110 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: to do that. 111 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 5: It's like only your matches can see you. 112 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: Only people I see and then like yeah, I think 113 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm interested, and then they get back. It's been both 114 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: good and bad that so few people are aware of 115 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: the Armstrong and Getty Show in general. I mean, I've 116 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: had a handful of I know who you are and 117 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: are all excited about that, But an awful lot of 118 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: and mostly the reason that the majority of the reason 119 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: people don't know because at some point, very quickly, you 120 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: get into what do you do for a living? I 121 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: mean that's a very common early question, right. 122 00:05:59,000 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: Hum. 123 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: It's people who just don't follow the news at all, 124 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: that is most of it. They wouldn't. It's not that 125 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: they like a different radio show, they don't listen to 126 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: talk radio, they don't follow news, they don't fall politics. 127 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: I've chatted with so many people that are completely checked 128 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: out of that world, and I think, wow, that's interesting 129 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: and refreshing in many ways. 130 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. I listened to Q one O three soft hits 131 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: of today and yesterday, Right, that sort of person. 132 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And there are a ton of people, as we've 133 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: talked about on the air, who have absolutely no MAGA 134 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: or if you voted for Trump, swipe which is it 135 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: right or left? I should figure that out. 136 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: This is you can keep ending up with truck drivers. 137 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 4: Does your profile have anything about your political leaning on it? 138 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: I have myself as a moderate, which is true and 139 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: certainly in terms of my ability to be in a 140 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: relationship with somebody I am unless you're unless you're like 141 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: adamant about certain things and won't even and have to 142 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: talk about it all the time. I don't really care 143 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: that much about your politics. 144 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: Well, right, it's funny because I would be a a 145 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: what do you call it to if we don't go 146 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: to war like Muhammad Ali, a conscientious objector to the 147 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: very question. I am a moderate in terms of getting 148 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: together with a woman I hit it off with, and 149 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: we care about each other. I couldn't give a crap. 150 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: Let's run our lives and if we differ on this 151 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: other stuff, let's just not talk about it. And most 152 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: well I should in real life. Of course, I'm a 153 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: proud fascist, but. 154 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Around I know a lot of people that seem to 155 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: have that attitude. Although there was one woman like the 156 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: best connection in terms of chatting that I had early on. 157 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: We're going back and forth and like the same books 158 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: and have been to the same museums and all this 159 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: different starts stopping all that, and we even got far 160 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 1: as far as to like facetiming each other and having 161 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: real conversations in real life and everything like that. Wow, 162 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: this is over a couple of weeks. And then I 163 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: was going to drive to Meeter, we're gonna eat for coffee. 164 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: So this had had made it pretty far by these standards, 165 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: and she said, you know, I can't believe I haven't 166 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: even asked this yet. I should ask what your political 167 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: leanings are. And I thought, okay, oh boy, and I 168 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: said I'm a moderate lean right, And her response is, oh, 169 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: that's way too far from where I am. This is 170 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: never gonna work. Well. I enjoyed talking to you, too bad. 171 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean it was that quickly over after weeks of discussing, 172 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: face timing, talking about our kids, I mean, just like 173 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: really got to know each other a lot. She finds 174 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: out I'm moderate leaning right, that's way too far from 175 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: where I am. Now you Matrix dodged that bullet, yeah, 176 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: which which makes her a nut job. But how how 177 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: nuts is that? 178 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: She will never hear this? But you have maneuvered yourself 179 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: and your own mind into a terribly sad position. 180 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: My dear, no feeling for you. 181 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: I pity you, no kidding. Yeah, a lot of people have. 182 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: And and how would you not get past the fact 183 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: that we've been talking for weeks about raising kids and 184 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: jobs and things we like to do, things that really matter, 185 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: things that really matter. In your life, and they all 186 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: clicked really really well. But on voting day once a year, 187 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: the fact that we disagree, we couldn't possibly even sit 188 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: down for cast. She wasn't even willing to have coffee 189 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: with me once she found out. I leaned right. 190 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: And to put a finer point on it, you've gone 191 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: through all of the steps you go through to make 192 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: sure somebody's not abhorrent. Right, You've decided this person is 193 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: not abhorrent. Then it turns out they disagree with you 194 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: somewhat on politics, and you decide, yes, they're abhorrent. You 195 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 2: have put politics far too high in your list of 196 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: you know, how you define people. 197 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: That one blew my mind. 198 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think about politics in the greater sense 199 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: principle and ideas and that sort of thing more than 200 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 2: is healthy. And I think that's insane, where I am 201 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 2: just the opposite. If she had said she's a progressive, 202 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: which is, you know, an indication of pretty far left. 203 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: Having had the conversations we had, I would have thought, well, 204 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: that's fine. I mean, given everything we've just talked about 205 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: with raising kids and how we feel about marriage and 206 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: life and jobs and blah blah blah, that's because you're saying, yeah, 207 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: I thought that was damned interesting. All right, So I 208 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: ask you anything you have perhaps in the past run 209 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: into similar dynamics politically speak like a left lefty. 210 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did have a girlfriend who was a left 211 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: lefty for a while. 212 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: Can you get past that these days? Even with your ID? 213 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: Actually, this person was this particular person who was very 214 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: very nice, but also very adamant about the positions and 215 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: talked about it all the time. It was a person 216 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: who lived their politics. I mean just it was. It 217 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: was all day, every day, and that that was never 218 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: gonna work. 219 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 5: I don't this woman, the cop didn't wouldn't go to 220 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 5: coffee with you? 221 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: Women are no a girlfriend? Oh okay, okay, very good 222 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: relationship other than other than that. 223 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: Jack, what kind of photos are you putting up? If 224 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 3: you don't mind me asking. 225 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm glad this came up. I was gonna get to 226 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: this at some point. Yeah, I cause I got friends 227 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: I've talked to about this. Well, I've already had three 228 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: experiences where I met somebody at coffee shop. So we've 229 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: gotten through the chatting and stuff. You chat on the thing, 230 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: and then the next move usually is do you want 231 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: to take this to our phones to text because it's easier, 232 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: and if you're comfortable enough, you do that. And then 233 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: and then sometimes FaceTime or not, or some people like 234 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: want to meet for coffee right away, blah blah blah. 235 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: I have met three people, so we've gone through the 236 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: preliminaries enough that I'm interested enough. They're interested enough three 237 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: people that if they hadn't told me who they were, 238 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have known it was them based on the 239 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: pictures they submitted that far off of their photos. Damn, 240 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: what filters? The fuck is that? 241 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 242 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: That's bad. 243 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: What the hell is that? 244 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: You gotta get them in the showroom to make this sale. 245 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: So if it takes a little trigger get you into 246 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: the showroom. 247 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 248 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 5: Did you FaceTime with any of them before you. 249 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: Met up one of them? I had, And I thought, 250 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: what kind of weird video filter did you have? That 251 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: slimmed you by sixty five pounds? 252 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 5: The filters are getting so good. 253 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the thing. It's not just it's not 254 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: just like the free filter you use on your phone 255 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: or to do whatever. No, these things are fairly sophisticated, 256 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: I guess, And. 257 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: They're being advertised on all social media platforms too, Like 258 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: if you go on Instagram and you're scrolling, there will 259 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 4: be an ad that'll say, oh, you can make your 260 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: photos look better here, and it's like a matter of seconds. 261 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: See Joe's thing? Will you get him in the door 262 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: to make the sale? That makes sense to me, Like 263 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: if you're putting your picture up as a real estate agent, 264 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,359 Speaker 1: you want to look caught to get more people. 265 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: To call you to sell real estate agents. I don't 266 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: give a crap with you. 267 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: I don't even like. 268 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: We're not having sex. I don't think you're just gonna 269 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: handle a paperwork of a transaction. What do you gotta 270 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: be hot? 271 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: But if that gets you a call and then you 272 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: sell them the house, fine, But if you're dating, I mean, 273 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: what you look like is a relatively commonly you know, 274 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: a high level bar of something. But to me, it's 275 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: more like you just committed fraud at a very high level. 276 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: What else are you willing to lie about? 277 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: Well? 278 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 5: And I think about that, I mean, I mean, and. 279 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: I can easily check. How about the ones I can't check, 280 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: Like whether or not you got a murder in your background, 281 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: or you know, robbed your last husband, or abuse your 282 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: kids or whatever. The hell, I'm sorry, did. 283 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: You say a murder? Just one? No, anyway, kitty, you 284 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: were trying to say something. 285 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 4: Well, no, I just think about, like, how are those 286 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 4: people not mortified or embarrassed? 287 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 5: Like I look nothing. 288 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: They're not pictures, they're not And so I've had this 289 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: conversation with a whole bunch of people, like a bunch 290 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: of people, probably twenty people at this point who've had 291 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: the same experience, and all of us but one have 292 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: kept our mouth shut just out of a not wanting 293 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: to get into confrontation or whatever. You just kind of 294 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: keep the coffee meat short and say, hey, you know, 295 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: talk to you later, and then you just don't. 296 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: That's such a waste of time there for the old 297 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: ghost Aerini's off the back door. 298 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: Obviously, you'd be on very solid ground to say, look, 299 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: you and I both know you don't look anything like you. 300 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: I guess because it's so hurtful. 301 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 5: Oh, I could so see you doing that. Hey, so 302 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 5: listen before we get started. You look nothing like your photo. 303 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: Right. One woman told me that she held her phone 304 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: up and said to this dude, who is like a 305 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: foot shorter than he claimed, I'm looking for this guy 306 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: have you seen him held the photo that he had sent, 307 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: which is a pretty good line. Yeah, yeah, I'm supposed to. 308 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: I was at this coffee shop. I'm supposed to meet 309 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: this person here. Do you know them? 310 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 5: I love that. 311 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. 312 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: I guess it's out of sadness. It's like a you're 313 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: so uncomfortable with the you look, you feel like you 314 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: need to alter your image. I mean, I'm not talking 315 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: about minor tweaks, like you're you look like a completely 316 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: different person. One of them was just age. You're sixty 317 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: and your pictures you're forty. I mean, you just lied 318 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: by twenty years of what you look like. You know 319 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: that it's his own thing. But then some of the 320 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: slimming stuff, I don't know how that works. 321 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of apps that you can do 322 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 4: that type of stuff with and it's uncomfortable. 323 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: And it's pretty good, but again good. So you think 324 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna show up looking completely different? Okay, Joe's on 325 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: his camera and now has changed himself into a pig, 326 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: and I'm supposed to just not mention. I'm just supposed 327 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: to notice that you're a pig. You're baby route. 328 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, just keep quiet. 329 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: I should just keep that to myself and say I 330 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: enjoyed talking to you about politics. That callowing me a pig. 331 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: You're calling me a pig, I could use it to 332 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: lose a couple of pounce. Calling me a pig. 333 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: Is just hurtful, I don't know, but not cool man. 334 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: So the big is shaking its head just in case 335 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: anybody is thinking about doing this. This is what I've 336 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: learned and talking to lots of people. For women, it's 337 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: uh weight mostly. For men, it's height and age men, 338 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: it's height and age. For women, it's weight mostly, I 339 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: guess is the way the way you do it, you 340 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: shade your things, so you know, I don't even know 341 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: what to think about that. I don't know what to 342 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: do about that. It's very discouraging, though you could very 343 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: quickly get to a point of because it's it's like, 344 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: as many people point out, it's like having a part 345 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: time job. It's so time consuming. It's so freaking time 346 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: consuming because you get you know, you get whatever, two 347 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: to five people a day they have to start a 348 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: conversation with, and then women usually do a background check, 349 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: so if you get further enough along, you find out 350 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: the real name, and then you do a background check 351 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: to make sure they're not a sterial killer. It's and 352 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: it's a lot of work, and then you a lot 353 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: of work. And then if you're a busy ish person 354 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: I'm a full time single dad with a kid, carving 355 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: out time to go do anything is very, very difficult. 356 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm tending to match with people in similar situations, and 357 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: you carve out the time to meet somebody you know, 358 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: you know completely lied about who you are, So thanks 359 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: for wasting hours and hours and hours of time. And 360 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty discouraging it. I realize it works for people, 361 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: but not. 362 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 5: As well as he used to. 363 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: Everybody that's been on for a while says it's way 364 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: worse than it used to be. Whatever they did to 365 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: the algorithms when match dot Com bought all the different companies, 366 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: it's just, you know, like Joe said, all of the 367 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: incentives are against what they claim they're trying to do. 368 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 3: This is why people are going to chatbots, have a 369 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 3: conversations with chatbots, right and and the classic mail order bride. 370 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 2: And then sign nice gal from a different culture is 371 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: looking for a new start in America. 372 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: There you go, Jack, I did. I did one of 373 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: those for a long time. The woman that was clearly phony. 374 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: I mean her pictures were way too not just that 375 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: she was attractive, but they were professional model shots, obviously, 376 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: and she lived in Miami and was interested in me 377 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: and everything like okay. So I played that along for 378 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: a while, just trying to figure out what the scam was. 379 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: But man, it went long way. I talked to her 380 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: on the phone, and she was from a foreign land, 381 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: and she kept going. She kept sending me videos though, 382 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: and I think I was supposed to click on them 383 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: and then end up installing malware on my computer. I 384 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: never clicked on any of these. 385 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: They're probably just torn dog videos. 386 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: I don't clearly it was a scam. Clearly it was 387 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: a scam. But to your picture, and then I'll shut 388 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: up about it, Michael, What my pictures like? What those 389 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: of us who are sane are doing. We want to 390 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: look exactly like our photos. The last thing in the 391 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: world I would want to do is to walk into 392 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: a coffee shop and have somebody go ooh, geez, no thanks, you. 393 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 5: Should post on with your mustache. 394 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: No, if you're not interested in what I really look like, 395 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm showing the mustache. 396 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hear you talking. That's oh, why why 397 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: set yourself up for that sort of you know, embarrassment. 398 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try filters. I'm gonna try makeup. 399 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear makeup, and it's point just a waste 400 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: of time. Yeap, that did smooth you out. That's the filter. 401 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 2: That's the filters colors, not as a number of profiles, 402 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 2: as hope, number of profiles like mine, say, zero filter. 403 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: I am actually this age. All these pictures are in 404 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: the last year. That's what a lot of profiles. Of course, 405 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: some of them are a lie. They have that smoothed 406 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: out filter that just smooths out your skin way too much. 407 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: You've probably seen those, Katie. It's very those are cheap filters. Blur. 408 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it just blurs out your face so much. 409 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: And that's immediately a path. Why you burn out your 410 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: face so much? I don't know. It's weird. 411 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: God, the one I just used it makes me really 412 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: look like a weak effort at being transgender. 413 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: Oh. 414 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: One other thing that I'll mention the nice Katie's got 415 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: a pandaff handle rain on a cloud above her head, 416 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: tossing down red hearts. 417 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: Jack, I think you need action shots. 418 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 3: One of you writing one of you, like pointing one 419 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: of you. 420 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: Like Tom Cruise. Yeah, taking my jacket off like a girl. Yeah. 421 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: The other thing. I'll talk about this another time because 422 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: this is going pretty long. But you have to get 423 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: used to the ghosting. It's just the culture is weird. 424 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: The culture is where you'll be talking with somebody over 425 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: several days, seems like it's going well, and then people 426 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: just stop responding. And like the first time I wanted 427 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: to stop responding somebody, I sent him a text and said, hey, 428 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: I already had somebody else that got to me first, 429 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: So we're gonna go out for coffee. If that doesn't 430 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: work out, I'll get back to it. And they said, 431 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: you realize nobody does this right. Lets you know that 432 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: they met somebody else and they'll get back to you. 433 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: That's not the way this works. That's what they actually 434 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: told me. 435 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: Actually kind of criticized you for being polite. 436 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: You don't handle it like normal society. And I have sense, 437 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: you know, when in Rome joined in, it's just like 438 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: you go along and with the endless possibilities, you decide 439 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: another one and you just ghost the five people you've 440 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: been having conversations. Oh, it's horrible. 441 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: It's terrible. 442 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: It's demoralizing, but that's what everybody does, and it's not 443 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: good for society. I guarantee you this is making society 444 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: worse and more jaded and will lead to fewer long 445 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: lasting relationships. 446 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 2: That's unplug the internet. Yeah, on, Katie, you're not a blowfish. 447 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 5: Feel like Alish identify. 448 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: Exactly you identify as a blowfish. But you're uninflated. 449 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: You I don't know how to I don't know how 450 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: to blow up. So as soon as soon as we 451 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: get off the air, I will take my six foot 452 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: eight frame with long mane of blonde hair back to 453 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: Bubble and see how I do. 454 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: Wish you well, okay, Jack, here's what you do. You 455 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 3: go on dates with a fake beard. You get to 456 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 3: the dinner table. If she looks like her picture, you 457 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: rip the beard off and you go on the date. Otherwise, 458 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: you just walk past her and go out the door. 459 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: With a fake beard on it perfect goldberry. 460 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 5: Well, I guess that's it.