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Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days

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Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard

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Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer

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Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.

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Speaker 1: This is cutting the Distance. Welcome back to the podcast everyone.

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Speaker 1: This week we're gonna be talking about those strong and

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Speaker 1: silent type of elk. Now, if you know kind of enough,

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Speaker 1: you're definitely going to run into this scenario. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: more often than not you get into elk country and

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Speaker 1: it's just crickets. The bulls are not firing off, and

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Speaker 1: they seem to be underground. The elker there. You see sign,

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Speaker 1: maybe even hear a few bugles at night. But what

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Speaker 1: do you do? While this kind of activity is not

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Speaker 1: what you're dreaming of, it's still definitely possible to call

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Speaker 1: in an elk. Silent bulls are probably some of the

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Speaker 1: hardest bulls to pinpoint, but can actually be some of

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Speaker 1: the easier elk to trick. Just because the woods are quiet,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean the elk won't be receptive to your

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Speaker 1: calls or move to your location. Targeting and setting up

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Speaker 1: for these hushed mouth animals can be a great option

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Speaker 1: for your hunt. So this week I'm going to cover

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Speaker 1: all things about set up to calling it silent elk,

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Speaker 1: from the why they might be piped down to choosing

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Speaker 1: a good calling location based on the time of day

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Speaker 1: or where you are. But first, I want to share

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Speaker 1: the story of a sneaky bowl that walks softly and

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Speaker 1: carried a big rack. This story takes place in the

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Speaker 1: mountains of northern New Mexico. I thought would be a

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Speaker 1: fairly fitting story because I'm actually on my way there

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Speaker 1: here tomorrow for a hunt on my own. But this

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Speaker 1: particular week, I was guiding a hunter and it was

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Speaker 1: a little bit later in the season. It seemed to

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Speaker 1: just be like super hot conditions and one of the

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Speaker 1: last hunts of the season for us there before I

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Speaker 1: headed back to him on handed to pick up some

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Speaker 1: guiding days up there. So we were out and the

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Speaker 1: week before was actually pretty good, but it got really

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Speaker 1: hot and it seemed like the animals just kind of

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Speaker 1: shut down. The running activity was pretty minimal, and it

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Speaker 1: was just pretty tough to come by. Blasting was a

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Speaker 1: little bit out of the option. Um, it just it

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Speaker 1: just wasn't conducive for long range glass. In some of

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Speaker 1: the areas we were hunting, it was like I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say it was flat as mountainous, but it was like

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Speaker 1: longer ridges surrounded by some open meadows and some other things.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, well we gotta find some milk

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Speaker 1: start out the week and kind of just still hunting

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Speaker 1: through some good areas and nothing is I'm doing the calling,

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Speaker 1: I'm letting out some location bugles, not really getting anything responsive.

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Speaker 1: I think it was actually even a full moon as well,

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Speaker 1: so it was just like a really bad cluster of

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Speaker 1: things for the week. It was just a slow week.

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Speaker 1: You know that happens um. So you know, we're doing

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Speaker 1: a little bit still hunting. Actually one day we're going

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Speaker 1: through this like oak brush stuff and I stopped. There's

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Speaker 1: just this bear staring me down. And I'd recognized this

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Speaker 1: bear before because it was the same bear that a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks earlier. It actually tore my four wheeler up,

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Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, we need to get this bear. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The hunter fortunately had a bear text. I was like okay,

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Speaker 1: Like I was walking ahead, I'm like, okay, there's a

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Speaker 1: unfortunately the hunter couldn't get a shot. Wind shifted bear

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Speaker 1: So towards the end of the hunt, last day of

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Speaker 1: So what I did was pretty long meadow, I mean

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Speaker 1: So my decision was, we're gonna set up and we're

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Speaker 1: so doing some calling, just letting out a few cow

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Speaker 1: be a bummer, Like if they're coming in from this side.

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Speaker 1: so I was hoping, hoping obviously, like you catch them

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Speaker 1: like then my eyes focused and I realized that is

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Speaker 1: bull to now hook up wind Like he's he's off

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Speaker 1: to our left, maybe I don't even know, pretty damn close,

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Speaker 1: but he's really thick off to the left. So the

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Speaker 1: can see he's got a really good rack on him,

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Speaker 1: like he's a big six by six. I'm like, okay, sweet.

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Speaker 1: And then the bull like kind of like you can

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Speaker 1: it and now it's like, Okay, the bull was here,

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Speaker 1: Somehow he didn't win us. He must have come in

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Speaker 1: this elk that close away, didn't It was like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how. That was pretty thick too, Like he

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Speaker 1: of his antler in the brush. So he walks out

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Speaker 1: into the opening. I gave it a few cow calls

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Speaker 1: and then he walks off the other direction. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: it didn't work, Like we just missed their opportunity or

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Speaker 1: we didn't really have an opportunity to that. So so

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Speaker 1: But I'm like, man, we don't know. He wasn't fired up,

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Speaker 1: like we'd just be walking in their blind and we've

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Speaker 1: got about thirty minutes left of the last last day.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna keep with the plan.

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Speaker 1: Like he liked it. He didn't wind us that I

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Speaker 1: know of. We just gotta keep with it. So I call.

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Speaker 1: We're just like sitting there, Call, Call, and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, across the meadow, I see a rack

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Speaker 1: facing us, and I'm like, here, it is head down.

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Speaker 1: Bull just starts coming straight in like on a string.

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Speaker 1: Call him right into range. I stopped calling, and he's

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Speaker 1: looking around like definitely trying to peer into the trees

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Speaker 1: for us. Turned sideways. Hunter shoots bull down. Called in

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Speaker 1: a really good, big, mature bull that never made a

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Speaker 1: single peep. When you talk about calling silent bulls, you

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Speaker 1: might have heard that term like, oh, he came in silent,

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Speaker 1: or these bulls are just quiet. They're coming in silent. Well,

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Speaker 1: it obviously means the bulls aren't making any sound, they

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Speaker 1: aren't calling back, they aren't responding to your calls. There

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Speaker 1: they're doing elk things without making elk noises. And I

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Speaker 1: think that understanding why they might be silent it's just

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Speaker 1: as important in understanding, like understanding that behavior. So you

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Speaker 1: know how to pick your setup, because when it comes

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Speaker 1: to calling in silent bulls regularly, you can get lucky,

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Speaker 1: but you can also set up in a way that

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Speaker 1: really increases your odds or chances of finding an elk

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Speaker 1: and intersecting an elk and getting that elk to come in.

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Speaker 1: There's many times where I'll be out hunting, whether it's

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Speaker 1: myself or with a client and I'm like, Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: going to call in a silent elk here, and they're like,

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Speaker 1: how do you know we're going to call in an

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Speaker 1: elk that's not going to make a noise, And it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: because everything's right. I understand what's going on and why

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Speaker 1: So I mean starting at the top, working my way down,

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Speaker 1: doing my call stands, and hoping to call in a

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Speaker 1: They might come check out the cows. And this is

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Speaker 1: where you know, all slow play it. I'll use the

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Speaker 1: back to the evening again. When um I'll move back

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Speaker 1: to that feeding area and do the same thing setting

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Speaker 1: a good wallow, it's a good strategy in time to

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Speaker 1: like you can kind of simultaneously hunt the wallow, sit

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Speaker 1: and hunt the wallow, stand hunt the wallow, and throw

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Speaker 1: out some of these calls because most of the time

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Speaker 1: those elk will be coming in silent. Now. Another setup

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Speaker 1: or location that I like to pick is one where

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Speaker 1: I consider it like a doubling up, where I can

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Speaker 1: double up on glassing and calling. So in the morning,

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Speaker 1: if I can find a knob that's near maybe some

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Speaker 1: a lot better for me to kind of use utilize

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Speaker 1: my time. Where if I'm just sitting there calling to

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Speaker 1: Like it's like, man, maybe they aren't right here right now.

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Speaker 1: But if I've got a place where I can be

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Speaker 1: calling to a bowl and also glass in a large area,

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Speaker 1: those are ideal. Um there's a few places that I

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Speaker 1: to glass this area in the mornings and the evenings,

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Speaker 1: like feeding areas out in the open where they might

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Speaker 1: be maybe it's a burn, maybe it's a clear cut,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's a whatever it is. But also from where

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Speaker 1: I'm glassing from, I can kind of utilize that time

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Speaker 1: to maybe see if there's any bowls near me that

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Speaker 1: might get drawn in quiet, because it's a good way

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Speaker 1: to utilize that time and not get bored and frustrated,

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Speaker 1: frustrated and move on too soon where I can be

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Speaker 1: I am at that time. There's been so many times

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Speaker 1: where I've been doing this where I'm like, okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna glass and and try to pick out a bowl,

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Speaker 1: and I'm I'm spotting or whatever. But I'm also while

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Speaker 1: I'm doing that, throwing out calls and then you know,

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Speaker 1: every periodically looking around. I've had many elk come into

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Speaker 1: my setup and location where it's like, okay, the hunts

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Speaker 1: on now right here where I am while I'm glassing,

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Speaker 1: so doubling up on something like that's great. I've even

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Speaker 1: done that near like a water source where it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I found this spring off the side of the mountain.

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Speaker 1: I'll be sitting there a glass from that spring, I'll

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Speaker 1: throw out those calls. So I'm kind of capitalizing on

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Speaker 1: kind of intersecting elk in as many places at once

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Speaker 1: as possible. So I've got the spring for maybe an

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Speaker 1: elk that's coming into water. I'm throwing out some calls

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Speaker 1: to try to draw in a silent bowl that's not

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Speaker 1: planning on going in water. And then I'm glassing some

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Speaker 1: stuff off in the distance while I'm doing all this.

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Speaker 1: So now when you do set up, you do want

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Speaker 1: to definitely pay attention because, like I said that that

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Speaker 1: story of that bowl coming in quiet, there's so many

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Speaker 1: times where I'm calling to a silent bowling when you

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Speaker 1: see them, when they're like they're it's ready, it's go time.

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Speaker 1: While I'm set up, when i'm calling like this, I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: I've got my arrow already, I've got my bow in

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Speaker 1: a position that i can grab it and don't have

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Speaker 1: to make a lot of movements, and I'm just kind

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Speaker 1: of sitting still looking around. I'll even use my binoculars

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Speaker 1: to scan through the trees to try to pick things

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Speaker 1: up sooner and really just paying attention. Um it becomes

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Speaker 1: a kind of a form of ambush hunting like you

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Speaker 1: would like white tail hunters do, but it's it's more active,

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Speaker 1: it's more roaming. I don't really set up in my

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Speaker 1: call locations for too long unless I really feel like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's an elk, or maybe it's like I'm calling to

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Speaker 1: elk that I believe her bedded below me and I'm

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Speaker 1: for the day and come and investigate. But for the

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Speaker 1: most part, being successful calling in silent elk is really

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Speaker 1: all about the setup and picking the right locations to

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Speaker 1: do these calls from, then paying attention and being ready

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Speaker 1: when they do come in. The first step to calling

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Speaker 1: a silent bowl is going to be understanding why they're

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Speaker 1: quiet and picking a good calling location, and it's also

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Speaker 1: gonna be a thing of moving to the right locations

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Speaker 1: at the right time of day. But the next step

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Speaker 1: is going to be what calls you make, how often

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Speaker 1: you call, and then when you should move. So next

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Speaker 1: week we're going to cover all the actual calling aspects

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Speaker 1: of calling in a silent bowl, So make sure you

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Speaker 1: bring your calls, get your calls ready, warm up those reads,

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Speaker 1: warm up those diaphragm calls whatever, bust out the hoochie, mama,

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Speaker 1: I don't care, because we're gonna be ready to call

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Speaker 1: in and and make noise to those silent ks. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give you all the things that I do, and

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be next week. Remember you can always reach

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Speaker 1: out to me at Remy Warren on social media, on Instagram, um,

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Speaker 1: pretty much all social channels, YouTube, whatever, feel free to

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Speaker 1: reach out. I love hearing you guys success stories. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: I've I mean, I've already got a few, so hopefully

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Speaker 1: we'll get some more in eyes that have found some

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Speaker 1: ELK use some of these tactics. I love hearing when

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Speaker 1: you've used the tactic and it's been successful, send me

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Speaker 1: a picture, or even maybe it wasn't successful, but you

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Speaker 1: had a great encounter. Um. I love hearing from you

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Speaker 1: guys about that kind of stuff. So check all that

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Speaker 1: stuff out next week, and yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: In between when you hear this and the next podcast,

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping that I will have arrowed bull elk myself

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Speaker 1: so well. I will keep you guys posted. But until then,

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Speaker 1: let's uh, let's talk softly. Let's whisper an Elkin, all right,

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Speaker 1: good luck guys,