WEBVTT - Danny McNulty Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>So I ran into UH producer Jensen Carr, husband of

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<v Speaker 1>his podcast. It was either yesterday the day before the

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<v Speaker 1>day's blend at Target buying what I can only describe

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<v Speaker 1>as a ridiculous amount of gummy worms and for Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know he had. He was He looked like

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<v Speaker 1>he was on a mission and embarrassed at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>If that means there you go, you're already discovered the

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<v Speaker 1>issues you've seen your boys cover for him to eat

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<v Speaker 1>as much. Basically, so, Jensen loves gummy candies, loves them,

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<v Speaker 1>and my children like gummy worms. And there's this particular

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<v Speaker 1>brand of gummy worms that my kids like that are

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever the version of like healthy? Are they

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<v Speaker 1>organic gummy worms? I don't know. Yeah, they're like healthy

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<v Speaker 1>gummy worms healthy. I don't know, there's like no dies

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<v Speaker 1>or something. It's just you know, there's some like worms,

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<v Speaker 1>the organic worms. Um. And so when I have bought

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<v Speaker 1>a bag, I'll say, like, I'm going to get these

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<v Speaker 1>for the kids. Are you gonna want to eat any

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<v Speaker 1>of them? Because if you are, we're going to need

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<v Speaker 1>to buy more because our kids are pretty good about

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<v Speaker 1>like you can have five gummy worms and then they're

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<v Speaker 1>fine with the five gummy worms. Jensen will open a

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<v Speaker 1>bag of gummy worms and then eat a bag of

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<v Speaker 1>gummy worms. And when I mean a bag of gummy worms,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's like a hundred gummy worms in there

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<v Speaker 1>or something. And so all then go back to the

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<v Speaker 1>gummy worms the next day and be like, where are

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<v Speaker 1>the gummy worms? And He's like, white them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gone, and I'm like, we've had them. We had

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<v Speaker 1>it was a right. So the other day when he

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<v Speaker 1>went to the grocery store, I said, buy the kids

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<v Speaker 1>their gummy worms, and then by whatever amount of gummy

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<v Speaker 1>worms you need for you, you will have your stash

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<v Speaker 1>of gummy worms and the kids will have theirs. So

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<v Speaker 1>what he bought was three small bags of gummy worms

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<v Speaker 1>for our kids and then the humongous monster. You're having

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred people over to your house for gummy worms

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<v Speaker 1>bag of gummy worms. So that's that. And I like

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<v Speaker 1>gummy worms only because they're the best way to catch

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<v Speaker 1>bigger Swedish fish. So that's our that's our favorite thing

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<v Speaker 1>about it, because we're big Swedish fish fans. And the Swedish, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they now have one with their tropical ones. So like

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<v Speaker 1>the front half is one flavor and then the tail

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<v Speaker 1>is another flavor. Don't get me started. Well, everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to eat more fish. Well, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>eat more fish. So I have been right. There you go,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't take the problem. I don't see the problem. Also, writer,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to point out, I don't know what it

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<v Speaker 1>is about your room today, but I've been glancing down

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<v Speaker 1>and it looks at times like you're in a snow globe,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's just all this kind of fluff floating around.

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<v Speaker 1>There is there is a you know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the reflection of his watch. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a watch? No, that's one, but there's also then

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<v Speaker 1>there's also like like fuzzy one just went by, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so it does again yesterday. That's trying the problem. So

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't look like you're you're the big Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just the way the light hit is hitting. This is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the game all day. Shake up? Right

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<v Speaker 1>there you go? Right? Or your skin looks great. I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to say, have you been using have you

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<v Speaker 1>been doing guasha? No? What did you say? What word

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<v Speaker 1>did you just say? Gasha? Well, it's a Chinese um

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<v Speaker 1>a skin thing where you take like either rose quartz,

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<v Speaker 1>a rose quartz slate or a jade slate and you

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<v Speaker 1>put like oil on your face. You don't scrape, like

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<v Speaker 1>you're not scraping skin, You're you're just pushing. It's basically

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<v Speaker 1>to help with puffiness and it helps with like lymphatic

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<v Speaker 1>drainage and it's really good for you. But it's like

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<v Speaker 1>an extremely natural um way of of bringing blood flow

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<v Speaker 1>to your skin and plumping your skin. And I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend of mine for lunch the other day and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh my gosh, your skin looks amazing and

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<v Speaker 1>she said gasha, and I was like wow. And right,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's a real thing. It's not like also you

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<v Speaker 1>need wizards or whatever some of that where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>if you lay on these crystals or is a code

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<v Speaker 1>for I just had botox? Right, that's that's that's why

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<v Speaker 1>my nose looks smaller. No, look it up. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only so much I can do, Like there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much self care. But you know what's funny, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember, like I mean, I've I've had this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation like recently where like the word metro sexual had

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<v Speaker 1>to be invented for the very notion that men might

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<v Speaker 1>take care of their skin, for their hair. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>like and I remember feeling that way like in the nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>and part of it was being an adolescent, but also

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<v Speaker 1>so much a part of the culture, uh to just

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<v Speaker 1>not give a crap about your face or your body

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<v Speaker 1>or you're like and it's just like now it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty standard, like everybody should probably take care of themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I think then are going to be wearing makeup pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much within the next ten years, like on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think it's definite time that we take

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<v Speaker 1>care of our skin more so, like you should like

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<v Speaker 1>wash your face and stuff right where sunscreen that never

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<v Speaker 1>never did and like when I was a kid man

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<v Speaker 1>just always sunburned doesn't hurt so much when I go

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<v Speaker 1>out of the beach. I wonder why I hate the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, like, just never put on sunscreen, right, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, You're like your entire bodies one big sun

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<v Speaker 1>blister always always, Like I just have memories of sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>and not being able to sleep because burning up on

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<v Speaker 1>my Yeah, well, welcome to pod Meat's world. I'm Danielle visual,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm right or Strong, and I'm Before we get into

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<v Speaker 1>our episode with Danny McNulty, which will basically conclude our

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<v Speaker 1>Bully series. We had Adam Scott, we had Blake Sennate,

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<v Speaker 1>we had Ethan Supply, and today Danny McNulty. Uh. To

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<v Speaker 1>commemorate this little segment of our podcast, we have something

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't had in a while, which is new merch,

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<v Speaker 1>New new Merch. Well, I wasn't expecting. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>one chamber for that. You're you're always supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>ready for new Mary. I didn't have one in the

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<v Speaker 1>chamber for that at all. Now March, I got nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, wa way to pick it up? Um And

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, we've got new March. We've got a new

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<v Speaker 1>T shirt to commemorate the very awkward encounter Right or

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<v Speaker 1>Strong had Do we call it huggate, embrace gate, Adam

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<v Speaker 1>embrace Gate? Adam Scott coined it embrace skate and uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been really fun to to ask other people what

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<v Speaker 1>their thoughts were and we may never know the truth. Guy,

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<v Speaker 1>big story, whether Adam, Adam Scott, or note the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of text messages I got in my life from people.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people hadn't talked to you for a year

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<v Speaker 1>or two. Suddenly we're like here, here, Adam Scott. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>you're really weird up. I hugging Adam Scott. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, well, I love how Danielle sent how

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<v Speaker 1>Adam sent you a text Danielle saying like, so apparently

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<v Speaker 1>I confronted you got clipping man like fit was so

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<v Speaker 1>it was so uncomfortable. It was like Adam Scott confronted

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<v Speaker 1>the cast of about their treatment of him, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, wait a minute, but anyway, it was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>The shirt is phenomenal. It's a very comic book style shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're interested in some new Pod Mets World merch,

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<v Speaker 1>be sure to check it out. So we have been

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<v Speaker 1>counting down the days until we got to this interview.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually had to postpone at once, which was very

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunate and uh, our our dear listeners have been asking

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<v Speaker 1>for this gentleman for a very long time. He portrayed

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<v Speaker 1>Harvey Harley Kiner for eight episodes of Boy Meets World,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly in season two, and just so you guys know,

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<v Speaker 1>we do now know that his name will later be

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<v Speaker 1>revealed to be Harvey and watched the show. We know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so weird to be in this position where everybody

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<v Speaker 1>listening out there knows more than we do. Yes, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just a very I remember a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>I do remember a lot. Well, you remember a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of behind the scenes stuff. You actually remember no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what that was. Okay. So Danny's first episode was our

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<v Speaker 1>season two opener, back to School, and his last episode

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<v Speaker 1>was when he returned in season three for episode four.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, she said, but there's always been a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a mystery. Um, it's when he came back to

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<v Speaker 1>confront Adam Scott's character. Yeah, he came back to like

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that dialogue, do you? Yeah? I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>the episode at all, he said. He's standing in front

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<v Speaker 1>of him and he essentially says, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>kick your kick your butt, and and Griff looks at

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<v Speaker 1>him and says, okay, So then you've thought this entirely through.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna kick my butt, You're gonna end up in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still gonna be here tomorrow. Like, he goes through

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<v Speaker 1>this entire speech about that, and you see the wheels

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<v Speaker 1>like turning in Harley's mind. I don't know why I

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<v Speaker 1>remember that scene. I don't even think, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>remember that. Yeah. Well, there's always been a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a mystery around Danny's departure from the show, and

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<v Speaker 1>including someone else who appears to have played his character

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<v Speaker 1>who comes back like and plays one episode. Um plays

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<v Speaker 1>Harley for one episode, and then of course later Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Scott took his spot as King of the Bullies. We

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<v Speaker 1>always loved Danny, but as most of us were just

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<v Speaker 1>children living in a time where like mental health issues

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<v Speaker 1>were mostly swept under the rug, we never knew the

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<v Speaker 1>full story. We're very much looking forward to hearing it

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<v Speaker 1>directly from him today. So let's please welcome Danny McNulty. M. Hey, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, look at you, Look at your pod dismissed. Awesome. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to represent, as they said, Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't let me seeing the backgrounds. My good friend

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Noir, he it's nice enough to let me use

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<v Speaker 1>the studio today. Ben Ben is a music studio. Hans

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<v Speaker 1>at a piano. Oh man, it's so good to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for being here with us. Of course you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's an honor. So Danny, let's get started with

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<v Speaker 1>how did you How did you get into acting? Um? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I got into acting at a very young age. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of my parents are from Doneygall, Ireland, and um

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<v Speaker 1>they came to America to open up an Irish bar

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<v Speaker 1>and forest Tills, Queens. And it was at this time

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<v Speaker 1>where I first got my acting bug. Where I was

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<v Speaker 1>serving pints to customers at seven years old. Yes, most

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<v Speaker 1>irish thing I've ever had, you know. I had a stool.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as I could reach it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make money out of this and play

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<v Speaker 1>the pac Man machine. And that's what I did. That

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<v Speaker 1>was like my main babysitter. And basically, you know, your

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<v Speaker 1>dad really didn't want you to get into acting, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well originally, um, um, my parents divorced when I was eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>and um then my father he was not into acting,

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<v Speaker 1>you all. I was always trying to get you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his his approval, and then um my dad passed away

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<v Speaker 1>when I was fourteen, and um so from there, I

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<v Speaker 1>asked my mom if it would be okay if I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, started acting, and she said, yeah, sure, gives

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<v Speaker 1>the shot. So I went to h Lee Strasburg, the

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<v Speaker 1>Young People's program there. Anna Strasburg got me my first audition,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I just I just loved loved working with

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<v Speaker 1>with with the the the actor you know, James Dean

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<v Speaker 1>went there. Malin Brando was like this this this feeling

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a as a kid, you know, and um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad didn't want me to get into acting. I

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<v Speaker 1>got into the acting, and from from there I went

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<v Speaker 1>to When I was sixteen, I dropped out of high

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<v Speaker 1>school because I was left back in second grade and

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<v Speaker 1>fifth grade due to an undiagnosed learning disability. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was tough in high school. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a freshman, all all my uh all my

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<v Speaker 1>friends with juniors, so I just didn't really fit in.

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<v Speaker 1>So wait, so I want to ask you a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more about that. So when you were in second grade,

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<v Speaker 1>you get through second grade, you finished second grade, and

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<v Speaker 1>then what happens. They decide not to let you go

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<v Speaker 1>into third grade. You have to redo second grade. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to redo second grade, and then see all your

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<v Speaker 1>friends that you were, you know, they go on and

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<v Speaker 1>then everyone else is like, wait, you're in the wrong class, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, I'm not. I'm sticking around, you know, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 1>And my dad had passed away at that time, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was a lot going on, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm no kidding. So then you then the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>happens when you go into fifth grade. So in fifth grade,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you know, I think you're about ten right in

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<v Speaker 1>fifth grade, somewhere around their ten eleven years old. So

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<v Speaker 1>it happens again. You go through fifth grade, and then

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of fifth grade they decided they're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna let you go forward into junior high. You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in fifth grade. So now you're two years

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<v Speaker 1>older than everybody else. Yeah, in fifth grade, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they missed the learning disability for you? What

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<v Speaker 1>were the signs that you were What were the things

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<v Speaker 1>you were experiencing that that were just missed? In second grade,

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<v Speaker 1>I had moved from a public school into a private

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<v Speaker 1>school and I didn't meet their um level of learning.

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<v Speaker 1>And then by fifth grade, um, my mom took me

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<v Speaker 1>to a doctor and they realized that I was a slexic,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, yeah, it's just like it was really hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me, especially with acting, because I'd have to literally

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<v Speaker 1>train my mind to have somebody else speak out the

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<v Speaker 1>lines first, and then I can roll into it like

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<v Speaker 1>a table reads for a nightmare. Wow. Okay, so in

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<v Speaker 1>fifth grade then you get held back and then you

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<v Speaker 1>go forward, which so one of the things I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about with that is that it's it's so interesting that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>when we interviewed Blake and Ethan, they were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this with with of darkness that they had about them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it was Blake who pointed out specifically

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<v Speaker 1>how interesting it is that all of us, with our

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<v Speaker 1>characters mirrored, had so many things in common, like you

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<v Speaker 1>being two years older than everybody in your schools. Actually hard,

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<v Speaker 1>actually exactly what hard, Like multiple jokes are like he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be here for ten years or whatever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly kind of like my upbringing to where I

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<v Speaker 1>came from, you know. So when I was sixteen, I

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<v Speaker 1>dropped out and got my g E D. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I went. I went to the Neighborhood Playhouse to

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<v Speaker 1>study the Meisner technique and that was that was that

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting. It's a two year program. Like I only

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<v Speaker 1>got asked back, you know, I didn't get asked back

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<v Speaker 1>for the second year. So a buddy of mine, Jed Reese,

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<v Speaker 1>was working up in Vancouver a lot, and he went

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<v Speaker 1>to school with me in New York and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>come on up to you know, Vancouver, and we'll try

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<v Speaker 1>out a few things. And he got me an agent

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<v Speaker 1>and from there I started working like my my first roles,

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<v Speaker 1>like my first role was Street Justice with Carl Weathers

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<v Speaker 1>actually opposite Omar Epps and like sort of a racial

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<v Speaker 1>you know, racially you know, like it was called black

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<v Speaker 1>or blue. That was. That was a really interesting experience

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<v Speaker 1>just to get it under my belt, to like to learn,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, blocking and you know what the cameras are

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. So from there I moved back to New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Did a couple of commercials. My first commercial was an

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis Presley stamp commercial. Oh my gosh, pull up in

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<v Speaker 1>a Cadillac. When is the stamp not just the stamp?

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<v Speaker 1>I say, one of rocks man, one of rocks, Elvis

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<v Speaker 1>gear and everything. I think I remember that that was

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<v Speaker 1>the that when when the entire question was are they

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put thin Elvis or heavier Elvis on the standard?

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<v Speaker 1>It was It was a big Yeah, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>big Everyone said Elvis was finally getting a stamp, and

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<v Speaker 1>it became this big national debate do we put thin

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<v Speaker 1>young Elvis on the stamp or do you put the

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<v Speaker 1>older Elvis when he was heavy on the stamp. He

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<v Speaker 1>became this whole thing. There was commercial and fans voted,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it was a whole big thing. Who was

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was young Elvis went on the stamp.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, right, yeah, young Elvis, And that meant lots

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<v Speaker 1>of my mom because my mom was a big Elvis fan.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, oh Jesus, lovely Irish accent, thought

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<v Speaker 1>Danny admitt prag. But the whole I mean, for anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who is unaware of, uh kind of what it's like

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<v Speaker 1>to come up in the business when you are you

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<v Speaker 1>go from Strausburg to Meisner, I mean that's royalty when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to acting schools and acting teaching. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>very specific style of acting, but it is one that

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<v Speaker 1>is not easy to get into nor easy to sustain.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean you were trained by some of the best. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was, it was, it was. It was something that

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, if I couldn't do regular school, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to go give it, give it my all, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to do everything I could to make it,

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<v Speaker 1>to make it happen. So you we all know what

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<v Speaker 1>an amazingly close relationship with your mother that you you had.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to get into that a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>here because you mentioned her and her accent, and I

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<v Speaker 1>also imagine that you know, with your dad passing away

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<v Speaker 1>when you were fourteen, did that just make you even

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<v Speaker 1>closer to your mom? Will you tell us a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about the bond you and your mom had. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom's name is kat Lean mcdonalfield. As I said,

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<v Speaker 1>she's from Donegal, Ireland, just very hard working. After my

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<v Speaker 1>parents split, she took over the bar and had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea about business or anything, but she became one of

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<v Speaker 1>the shrewdest businesswomen and in all the Queen's to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>and back then, you know, women weren't really doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they didn't really have a say. It was

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<v Speaker 1>more like you know, what are you doing? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like who where's your husband? Where's the man of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>I am the man of the house, and um my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom, I just want to be candid with you

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<v Speaker 1>guys for everything, you know, to help other people with

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<v Speaker 1>with any struggles that they're going through. My mom was

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<v Speaker 1>diagnosed with manic depression and back in those days they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really have any medications or anything. They just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know really what it was. When was she diagnosed with that?

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<v Speaker 1>We we know that today as bipolar disorder and bipolar today.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that was eighty five six, eighties seven. So when

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<v Speaker 1>she started to get sick, I stepped up and I

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<v Speaker 1>was running a bar um for soth queens and I

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<v Speaker 1>got my first apartment when I was seventeen, and my

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<v Speaker 1>mom always was very supported, you know, supportive of what

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing. And you know, even though she had

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<v Speaker 1>that going on at the same time when she wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>on a you know, manic. I call it the bipolar

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<v Speaker 1>right roller coaster, like you buy a ticket and you

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<v Speaker 1>know you don't it just goes round and round, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was really difficult. But at the same time that

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<v Speaker 1>she was so strong, so when she had her power,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just amazing what she could do. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>ask for another mom if I could just all the

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<v Speaker 1>lessons that I had sort of like school hard knocks

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<v Speaker 1>growing up. I knew there was a reason for it,

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<v Speaker 1>that the universe was getting me ready young, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to experience things so I could help other people in

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<v Speaker 1>the future. So when did you How did you find

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in Los Angeles? I came there right like about

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<v Speaker 1>six months, six months before Boy Meets World, and I

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<v Speaker 1>started auditioning. Um got close to a couple of things,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, just just out of nowhere, I got the

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<v Speaker 1>Boy Meets World. Uh audition, you know, the first audition

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<v Speaker 1>I met Sally Steiner. Do you remember your audition? Oh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually auditioned seven times. Seven times, Really, that is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have assumed that you walked in the door

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<v Speaker 1>and they were like, well, that's so hard to me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you just you just you own that character so much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like there's there's no you know what, we we

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<v Speaker 1>saw it, there's no other way to do it, like

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<v Speaker 1>you had to. Oh my god, that's so funny. Seven

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<v Speaker 1>times that writer. Because I really admire all you guys act,

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<v Speaker 1>you're acting, you know, so seven times I'm auditioning. Sally

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<v Speaker 1>Steiner was like, come on, whatever, you can do it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so kind, so so helpful. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if Barbi Block was on the show. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she was. I don't think she came on until maybe

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<v Speaker 1>third season. Yeah, I think that that's right. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember seven times for one show. Wow. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you do the one show and then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden you get a script. You're like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is your script for next week, like next week. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So at the time that you were auditioning, you thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was just going to be one episode. Yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>one yeah, just one episode. Seven times for for a

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<v Speaker 1>guest cast for one episode. I believe that it can

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<v Speaker 1>audition seven times for Eric well and most of the

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<v Speaker 1>time for especially for for a guest cast, they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>the auditions like the week before. So how do you

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<v Speaker 1>even have seven times the first episode of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>there are more of a run up time to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, you know, I do think that, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Michael really cares about actors, right like, and

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:15.639
<v Speaker 1>he really he takes casting, probably more seriously than a

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:18.159
<v Speaker 1>lot of te To his credit, that's what part of

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<v Speaker 1>what made Women's World good and all of this show

0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:22.440
<v Speaker 1>is better than your average sitcom is that he did

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<v Speaker 1>give care and time and and a lot of times

0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:28.080
<v Speaker 1>that meant multiple sessions like and probably driving Sally and

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<v Speaker 1>Barbie crazy, you know, but also meant firing actors because

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<v Speaker 1>that and that's one thing where you know, we've talked

0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:38.359
<v Speaker 1>about it where it's it sucks, but Michael had a

0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 1>vision when it came to certain characters, and if somebody

0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:43.360
<v Speaker 1>wasn't working out, they would go he would go back,

0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:45.119
<v Speaker 1>and they would he would hire somebody else to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's terrible, but that's why they say it's not

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 1>show friends, it's show business. And that's what that's what

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<v Speaker 1>he would do but he also it seems it seems

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<v Speaker 1>so it's uncanny to me his apparent ability to find

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<v Speaker 1>actors who really are like their characters, like he really

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<v Speaker 1>did and he's able. It was a reciprocal relationship though too,

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, like he would cast and then rewrite, and

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>you have a whole week at least, even if somebody's

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:12.920
<v Speaker 1>only every one week, you can write to their strengths.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just amazed that you did not walk in

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<v Speaker 1>and and just get the part, because it's like you

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:22.160
<v Speaker 1>have you have this New York vibe that obviously they wanted, right,

0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>you have this sort of like this cool guy like

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<v Speaker 1>dated five in a way, it's like two fifties. Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's why it's so cool that you played Elvin. Of

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:33.399
<v Speaker 1>course you did, like I see you you had like

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<v Speaker 1>a throwback you know, you did have that James Dean

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:41.359
<v Speaker 1>like James. It wasn't fake. It wasn't because I feel

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 1>like everybody wants to you know, especially back then, like

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:46.919
<v Speaker 1>teenagers wanted to achieve that, but they didn't have it,

0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 1>and you just had it like this effortless cool presence

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that you just owned it. It's it's amazing. It took

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<v Speaker 1>seven takes, But all right, thank you. I appreciate that, Danny.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you basing the character on anyone or was it

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:01.919
<v Speaker 1>just a character you hadn't you? Yeah, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>little as she as she said, James Dean, Elvis Presley,

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>a little Montgomery Clifton there, but little Bobby Tenero. But

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know that's so true. And so then

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 1>when you book, it was your mom the first person

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<v Speaker 1>you called, Yes, yes, oh you finally did a good

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:33.159
<v Speaker 1>man good you know, yeah, she was really proud. You know,

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>do you remember meeting Ethan and Blake for the first time?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the dynamic you had with the with like

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 1>the three of you together. Ethan, Ethan had this this

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 1>this coolness I just draw to him. You know, he

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:49.360
<v Speaker 1>wasn't trying to be you know, he was just there

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:54.159
<v Speaker 1>reading his book or just just solid like solid good people.

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.439
<v Speaker 1>You could you could tell, you know, people who have

0:25:56.480 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>good hearts. And you know, Ethan had this amazing presence

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.879
<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't about being his size, you know, I

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I think he's amazing big, arts, small or anyway, because

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>he's always had that fire, that true fire. And and

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Blake was was a tripper. He was always funny always yeah,

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>all right, all right, little all right, yeah, okay again

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>like their characters. That's the thing. They were like their

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>care all of you were. So you just snapped into

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that right away, which leads me to believe. I mean again,

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, do you think that Michael he knew

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 1>that these characters had a shot of coming back or

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 1>do you think that it was it was just they

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:38.879
<v Speaker 1>were so magnetic when they got there where I was like,

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>we've gotta do we gotta do this more. I think

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jacobs is an amazing mastermind of so I believe

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.479
<v Speaker 1>that there was a chess board in front of him

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and he saw the moves all the right away. But

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>he saw the moves and he saw the you know,

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the how people get along and if they're if they're

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.199
<v Speaker 1>good match, and what he said, you know, I had

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 1>a floor. You know, Michael Jacobs is amazing like that.

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>He just you know, I think for sure he thought,

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 1>if I can get the right people in here and

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 1>they have the right you know energy together and their

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>energy is what I wanted to be. This could be

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 1>a huge part of the school, a huge part of school,

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>which is exactly what it turned into, which I think

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 1>is part of the reason why, like you said, Danny

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>the chessboard that he had in front of him. I

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>do think it's one of the reasons he cares so

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 1>much about every actor he hires and why sometimes he

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>lets people go is if this isn't going to be

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 1>something that I can see working for multiple different things

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and carrying multiple storylines in the future, then it isn't

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna it's not worth the exactly exactly, you know. I

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 1>just want to say, after watching you guys on the pod,

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I love the first season, you know, and I totally

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 1>agree with you, like the drop, shock or star, because

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>it was like, this must have been traumatic in a

0:27:55.800 --> 0:28:00.199
<v Speaker 1>way because they're coming in on there only this age mean.

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm i'm I'm like ten years I think older than you. Danielle.

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm i'm um. You guys were all younger, even Blake

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and Ethan were five years younger. Yeah, you know, you

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 1>guys were really cool, really professional, and you were very

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 1>genuinely nice. I was surprised because you know, in case

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you're like, wait a second, and did they say hello? Yeah,

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>they said, you know, of course, you know you're gonna

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>give them the distance because you guys were you know,

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 1>just the starts of the show, and it's sort of like,

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, you come in, you're like, all right, well,

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to make you guys look better. You know,

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>that was my attitude. Blake thought we were faking. That's

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the thing I love is when I went back in

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Flakes like you guys are all so nice, I thought

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>it was fake. That was disingenuous at first. Yeah, it's

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>so funny. Did you enjoy playing a bully? You're such

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>a nice guy. It's it's a little bit like Adam Scott,

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Like Adam's got such a nice guy and he always

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 1>ends up playing these like jerky characters. To enjoyed playing

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>a like threatening bully, well, you know, not the threatening part,

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>but I enjoyed the mental aspect of it, you know,

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>because I myself had gone through some bullying as a

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>kid myself with the grade school of being left back.

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>So it was kind of my way of venting that

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>energy and instead of letting it be inside me and

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>holding inside of me, I was able to release it

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>into the character and um, you know, like as you know,

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>like with Girl Meats World, like when I was on

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I tried to go in my Instagram. I tried to

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>make it, you know, anti bullying as much as possible.

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's it's it's a hard battle. You know,

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of kids are going through today, and you know,

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>it's it's we didn't have that when we were younger.

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean a page or would have been the only

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 1>way to really reach out, you know, like that wasn't

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 1>really up and going, and nowadays kids have to grow

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>up so fast, you know, well, it's one of the

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>things that they talk about, is the fact that I

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 1>think we've even addressed it on the pod maybe especially

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>with bullying. There was a time where kids could get

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>away from it because when they left school, they were home,

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>which was a much safer space. And now because the

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>internet and social media is everywhere, they don't you don't

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>get the break. The kids that are getting bullied go

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>home and they're still getting bullied, and so they never Yeah,

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>you can't ever get away from it. And they're like

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and like with you will with with the social distancing

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 1>from um, the internet, I think that's a great thing,

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, for for mental I mean I catch myself

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, on it and it's like wait a second,

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>this whole time is going by. I'm I'm not I'm

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>not seeing the signs God's giving me because I'm I'm

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>glued to my phone. You know, they're scrolling, just scrolling

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 1>in your life, and anybody who deals with with any

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>sort of mental health issues like me, I just it

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>just made me a healthier person. I mean, it really

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 1>truly just made me a healthier person. It's so funny

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>because wait, Danielle and Ryder and I talked about how

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>how close we are and how even after thirty years,

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>we've gotten closer because of this podcast. And there was

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>a time where not long ago, where I was like,

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking of maybe getting back on social media, and

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>both writer and Danielle reach out like, I don't know

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>if you should, like I think for your mental health,

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I just think it's better if you don't. And they're right,

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>They're completely right about it. And so it was also

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>having that kind of structure around you, in that support system,

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 1>going I see where you're coming from, but do the

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 1>do the benefits outweigh kind of the negative that you're

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>going to feel mentally, And they're right, and so there's

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>not even just about you will, I mean, we we

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>were specific about you in certain ways. But I was

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>just I just if I could cut the core completely,

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I would do you know what I mean. I was

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 1>proud that that you had already accomplished that I didn't

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>want to see it because I was like, oh I

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>could just I mean I could. I would wish I

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>could completely cut it off, and I did. I stopped Facebook,

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I stopped some but like, it's really hard, especially because

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>we do get a lot of especially with this podcast.

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>We have a good community of people online, Like there

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of support, and I do enjoy aspects

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>of it a lot, you know. I enjoy the sense

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>of community um and and feedback and being able to

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>share with that community and and have comments come in.

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>But it's it's it's so tricky. And I like the

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>free I'm gonna be honest if we have to. But

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 1>because you get free stuff when you're on Instagram and

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff that you do, I would

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.479
<v Speaker 1>reach out and be like, I love your product. Can

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I have somebody, and well, yes, oh my god, oh

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, we are that. This is where Will and

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I are the most different. I get sent free stuff

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>all the time, and I like just stuff. I want

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>no stuff. I don't want no stuff. I want no stuff.

0:32:51.720 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I like zero stuffs. Hey everyone, it's Anglert and Kayla

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Miller Keys and Jared Heyn. I'm I'm here. I'm here

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 1>to guys, hosts of the new podcast. Help we suck

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>at being newlyweds because I guess we just don't suck

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>at dating anymore. No, I mean your newly weds. I

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>am not a newlywed anymore. I'm curious if I sucked

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>at being a newlywed. I don't think so. I mean

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I I made it to the altar, and I am

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 1>so happy to be joining you, guys. I can't wait

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>to talk about relationships, marriage, and just everything in between.

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 1>It's about time we have someone smart to join this podcast.

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 1>It's too long between us. This young lady is a

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>broadcast journalism major. She knows what she's doing. I'm so

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>excited to be hosting a podcast with my soon to

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 1>be wife and of course, my best friend Jared. How's

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>it gonna make you feel working together? Now? You guys

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>live together, we're together, gonna get married. Yeah, it'll be interesting.

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>You going to get tired of each other? Absolutely? Yes?

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Be sure to listen to help we suck at being

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>newlyweds on the I Heart radio app, Apple podcasts or

0:33:54.360 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>wherever you listen to podcasts talking about mental health and

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>social media and all of that feels like a really

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>good transition to talk about because we talked about it

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>a little bit with Blake and Ethan, But we have

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>never fully known the story of you. So you came

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>to boy Meats World, you auditioned seven times, you become

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>this incredible iconic character of Harley Kiner, and then what

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.839
<v Speaker 1>it felt like to us was that just one day

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 1>you were gone. You did seven episodes, and then we

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 1>all have memories of what I actually don't know if

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I was there at that table. I don't think I

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 1>was there because I don't have I've heard the stories

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 1>now enough times that you start to think, like, was

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I there? But I don't think I was. But I

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>know writer and will remember that a table read where you,

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, had a difficult time, and you mentioned that

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>table reads were difficult for you. Can you tell us

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:53.479
<v Speaker 1>what was going on for you mentally during the seven

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:56.839
<v Speaker 1>episodes you were Harley Kiner before you know, we brought

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you back in season three three? Your eight right, Um,

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I'll try and throw it in a nutshell. Um, bipolar

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 1>illness is, it's a chemical imbalance. And I had dealt

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 1>with it with my mom and I had no it's

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 1>never gonna be me. It's not gonna happen, and um

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:20.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy. I'll just tell you a quick story.

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Um My, a psychic walks into my bar and forest

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 1>those queens. She says, oh you, you know you broke

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 1>bread with Jesus and you're You're a very special person.

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have a light in this world. So she

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>tells me I'm gonna meet you in Los Angeles and

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 1>six months from now and then Sedona, Arizona. And I

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, lady, you take your medication and I'll

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 1>talk to you soon. Six months later, Um, I'm in

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 1>l A. I get a call from her and I

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>go to Sedona for this angel workshop and basically I

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>went there. It was in a amazing experience. I opened

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:06.800
<v Speaker 1>up so many chakras and I opened up my whole being.

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>And when I got back to l A, I wasn't

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.879
<v Speaker 1>shut down enough. I was still open. But within within

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 1>that week I booked Why Meet's World and it was

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 1>like this this high that I was coming into and

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I had just feeling like there was this battle between

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>darkness and light, and I thought that I could make

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 1>the world a better place by bringing it. It was

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>like this, when you're dealing with bipolarist is it's very grandiose.

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>You have these these outward thoughts and then you think

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you can it's very hard to explain delusions of delusions

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 1>of grand exactly well. And that hit me, you know,

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 1>And then I wasn't closed down enough. I didn't. I didn't.

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I felt like spiritually I was out there and whatever

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>got in, like astral vampires. There's all kinds of things

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 1>I went through and exorcism, all this crazy stuff. It um,

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 1>it was just very, very difficult. And I was at

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the table read and I pull up in my Cadillac

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:18.479
<v Speaker 1>convertible and for some reason I had stopted a dog

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and I brought this dog on set and uh, I

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 1>was at the table read. I thought everything would be

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>fine and normal, and I just felt this meltdown at

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:32.800
<v Speaker 1>the table and I remember Blake helped me. I dropped

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the script on the floor, picked it up for me.

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 1>He was so good. He was like, you could do

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>this and just give him a minute, you know, he's

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>like saying to the producers, like, you know, just give

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>a minute. And I remember just winding down and it

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 1>was just like I was, I was frozen. I couldn't do,

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't talk, I couldn't you know, And I knew

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>it was like everything was imploding, you know, like when

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 1>when you have that kind of stigma on your resume.

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, back then, nobody was really breaking down there.

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, Britney Spears was still a mousketeer,

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, that wasn't anybody in the media. There wasn't

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 1>really any discussion about it. So it kind of threw

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>my acting career into a very bad tizzy, um until

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>they recontacted me for Girl Needs World. So what happened?

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 1>So the table read happens, and and so I know

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 1>you're you're talking about that the you you're using your words.

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>The meltdown that happened at the table read was related

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:44.319
<v Speaker 1>to I'm assuming you have since been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. Yes, yes,

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>that's that's what happened. And and then they got me

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 1>on the proper medication. At the time, it was really

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 1>just lithium that worked and a few others, but uh,

0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really like the medications it was. It was

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>just tough. You know, well, were you on any absolutely? Absolutely?

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:09.280
<v Speaker 1>When I so when I had my um my first attack,

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:11.799
<v Speaker 1>they didn't know what it was. It was the same thing.

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 1>And you you know, with anxiety, you're you're convinced you're dying.

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 1>You just it can't be in your mind. It's you've

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 1>got cancer, You're having a stroke, you're having a heart attack,

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.399
<v Speaker 1>You're dying. And then so I was on two different

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 1>kinds of medication, which is why I gained so much

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 1>weight towards the end of of Boy Meats World. It's

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>because it's the only way I could perform. I mean,

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I could not get out there unless I unless I

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 1>was medicated. And and it was in the earlier days

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 1>of anxiety medication as yours was in the earlier days

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>of bipolar medication, where you know, lithium was was what

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 1>was going on. And I have some friends that are

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>bipolar that talk about the demons and the darkness coupled

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:48.359
<v Speaker 1>with the um the sparkles where they say, the entire

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 1>like everything sparkles around you in the world is the

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>most amazing place to be um So, yeah, it was,

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:56.760
<v Speaker 1>And nobody was talking about it. You're right, we couldn't.

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>You couldn't take a minute and say give me a second,

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm having an anxiety attack or I'm sorry, I'm bipolar.

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just no one said anything. You held

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>it inside and you died inside. That's just what you did.

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>So and we didn't know what was going on with you.

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 1>We just we and then it was and then you

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 1>were gone, Like none of us had a chance to

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>even talk to you or or let you know that

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>we were there. We would have been there to support

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:24.359
<v Speaker 1>you in any way we could have. Um, you were

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 1>just you just weren't there. So it was. Yeah. So

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the morning of the table Read, you have that meltdown

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 1>and Blake is trying to help you any saying like

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.240
<v Speaker 1>give him a minute, give him a minute. The table

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Read ends, and what happens, um My sister was visiting

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 1>from New York and they called her. She got me

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:49.800
<v Speaker 1>off the set and she took me to this hospital,

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Edgemont Hospital. And what is it like like an e

0:40:54.560 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>er hospital or a mental hospital slash dab. But for

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>never a problem for me, you know at that time,

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:08.840
<v Speaker 1>never like Blake said something about acid, I'd never touched

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>any anything like that. It was just purely, purely the

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 1>bipolar roller coaster. You know. Okay, so your sister takes

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:22.320
<v Speaker 1>you to the hospital and you get checked in. I

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>get checked in Disney sent Um. One of their psychologists

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 1>are like, someone to help talk to me, to see

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 1>if they could they could they could get me down.

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:35.360
<v Speaker 1>You have to get me into to get me to

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:38.920
<v Speaker 1>the show, you know. Yeah, because I left everybody on

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:44.279
<v Speaker 1>the lurch. That's what I felt like, like, like, you know,

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>like you guys were kids at the time I was.

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I felt like like I traumatized you at the table

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 1>read I was like, oh my god. You know, thinking back,

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like, wow, it must have been difficult for them

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.800
<v Speaker 1>to see such a thing. You know, it was difficult

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:00.439
<v Speaker 1>for us to see it because we can aired about

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 1>That's why it was difficult to see it. It wasn't

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 1>It had nothing to do with oh my god, I

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:06.359
<v Speaker 1>can't believe he's not going to be on the show.

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 1>It's that we we really liked you well, I mean,

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>we love you, and it was one of those things

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>where we we just didn't know. Again, we weren't kind

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>of kept in the circle of information of stuff that

0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:18.360
<v Speaker 1>was going on and then it was just kind of

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:22.359
<v Speaker 1>just don't ask um well interestingly, I mean going back

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 1>to the point that that people didn't really talk about

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 1>mental health in any of the same terms that we

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 1>do now. I don't know if the adults were well

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 1>equipped enough to present the infront of I don't know.

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I think if I remember Jeff McCracken was directing, and

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 1>if I remember there was this I just remember being

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Danny's not coming back, but Danny's gonna be okay, and

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 1>he just left it at that and and you know,

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:48.400
<v Speaker 1>my assumption, I think at the time was that it

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 1>was drug related, because that's that's the only way I

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:55.360
<v Speaker 1>could understand like the notion of you know, acting differently

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>or or I don't know, I guess I just you know,

0:42:57.520 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I had been raised by the Reagan eraw, so you know,

0:42:59.920 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to drugs, you touch a drug, you can go crazy

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:03.920
<v Speaker 1>and jump out a window and have you know, so

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:06.960
<v Speaker 1>any sort of like episode that felt out of character

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:09.839
<v Speaker 1>or different, I would immediately that's where my brain went,

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I think as a kid, you know. And and they

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't explain it one way or the other, so again

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I sort of assumed. But the keeping from us that

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Danny had a drug problem? Um was was I think

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the assumption I made at the time, which it never

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>of course, no one ever confirmed that, no one. I

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>don't think you everyone ever said that to me, but

0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 1>they didn't. They didn't have the capacity to say, this

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>is a mental health issue. It's probably one of these

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>three disorders. It's you know, like all the things that nowadays,

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 1>hopefully they'd be able to communicate. It's also, though hugely Danny,

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 1>to your credit, it's amazing that with what you were

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 1>going through, you never did drugs, because the first thing

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>you do is you self medicate. I mean, that's when

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.799
<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with any sort of mental health issue. That's

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 1>what you want to do, is what do I have

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 1>to do to not feel this? I remember one time

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 1>telling my doctor when went right at the start of

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>my anxiety disorder, when it was really bad, and I

0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:58.880
<v Speaker 1>mean there was a time I was bedridden for for

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 1>a couple like a week and a half. I remember

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:04.359
<v Speaker 1>saying to my doctor, if you told me right now

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:07.399
<v Speaker 1>that heroin was gonna make me feel better, I'm going

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>to try heroin. Because it was you just want to

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>not feel the way you're feeling, So the fact that

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:18.359
<v Speaker 1>you weren't doing any drugs is incredible that you never

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 1>went down that road of I just I have to

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 1>self medicated. So that's answer. Yeah, it's a real credit.

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 1>And I kind of knew in my mind that would

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 1>be it. You know, if I ain't got any mushrooms

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:32.279
<v Speaker 1>or psychedelics anything like that, it would be be a

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>death sentence for me. You know, how long were you

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 1>then in the hospital leaving the table read you get

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:40.319
<v Speaker 1>checked into the hospital. How long are you there? I'd

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>like to say so for about a month, yeah, just

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 1>to to make sure that the right medication and everything

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 1>got balanced with it. Three weeks, three weeks to a month,

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:57.360
<v Speaker 1>and uh, yeah, it was. It was really difficult. And

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I was really surprised when Michael Jacobs and everyone reached

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 1>out and said, you know, we want to have you

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 1>on for you know, for one more episode. You know,

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 1>they didn't say it was gonna only gonna be one.

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was like, oh, I'm gonna be back,

0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time I knew it was like, hey,

0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:18.840
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a little bit of a different change,

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.479
<v Speaker 1>you know. But it was so great that they brought

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 1>me back for the closure. Um, you know, he said,

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:30.400
<v Speaker 1>she said, was the episode with Adam and uh, Adam

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:34.320
<v Speaker 1>is such a graceful guy and you know he's he's

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>really I'm glad. I'm glad it was somebody like like him,

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:41.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, to replace me, because I could see over

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the you know, longevity of time at UH. I don't know,

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:49.319
<v Speaker 1>there's something really cool about him. That's it. He played.

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 1>He played a different part. Dude, nobody could replace you.

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 1>We we we proved that. But the other character that

0:45:56.320 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 1>that moved in, UH. To address your point, writer, UM,

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Harvey Harvey is actually Harvey Harley Kiner because his real

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:10.800
<v Speaker 1>name was Harvey. He didn't want anybody to know that

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 1>it would be like, you know, Harvey Air. You know,

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to He didn't want to be associated

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 1>with that that you know, stigma of Harvey. So I

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 1>think then Harley was, you know, the the kicker. You know,

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 1>how did you feel when you came back for that

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:30.800
<v Speaker 1>final episode, Like, what were your thoughts going into it?

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Were you're were you nervous? What were your feeling. I

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:37.840
<v Speaker 1>was still a little loopy with the medication, um, because

0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>it just didn't sit well with me at first. UM,

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I was just a little little out of it. But

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I remember it was in a different studio. Well, when

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 1>I first was filming one a visa studio, which is

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 1>a magical place. It's Disney, you know, that's where Disney

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:58.800
<v Speaker 1>walked walked down, that's those steps, and that's where he

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 1>created everything. You know. That was the magic of it.

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 1>And that was another thing I missed the most. Boina

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 1>visa studios and pulling up on set and you're like, oh, yeah,

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:13.360
<v Speaker 1>pulled up to the same thing. Yeah, it's magical, magical.

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 1>So that's third season. So we had moved to ktl

0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:20.880
<v Speaker 1>A then, So that was which were not magical, not magical,

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:29.360
<v Speaker 1>which was the opposite of magical, most like television, the

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:34.360
<v Speaker 1>magical part of buildings. Yeah, the magic was not gettingpatitis.

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 1>The spaghetti factory was across the street though, next to

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:42.359
<v Speaker 1>a strip club. Yes, not quite it. You couldn't get

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 1>less Disney than at that point was still there. The

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 1>magic hood was still there. It was just the magic

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 1>put in the paper box. And so between obviously season

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 1>two when you are has spitalized, and then season three

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:03.760
<v Speaker 1>when you come back you said you were still getting

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 1>adjusted to your medication. Your life is obviously now so

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 1>completely different. Once once you kind of felt settled on

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:15.719
<v Speaker 1>your medication, what were you doing then did you go

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 1>back to auditioning? What did you end up doing? After

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Boy Meets World, I moved back to New York for

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 1>a good while and I got a lot more balanced,

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:32.320
<v Speaker 1>thanks thanks to my mom helping me. And then I

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 1>moved to Sedona, Arizona, where it all happened. And I

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:39.480
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be a healer, like I wanted to learn

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 1>how to kill people like sham and you know, fire tender,

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 1>like all these cool things like sweat lodges. And I

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:52.000
<v Speaker 1>got back and I went to UH Massas Therapy School

0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and I graduated from there and UH and I was

0:48:56.920 --> 0:49:00.600
<v Speaker 1>working with the Hopie Indians up on the reservation. I

0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 1>was volunteering my time because you have to do clinic

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 1>when you're do the massage. So I volunteered my time

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:10.560
<v Speaker 1>up on the reservation and worked on these old, like

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:14.200
<v Speaker 1>elderly people, and they love me so much. They were like,

0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:17.280
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna show you how to dry farm and blue

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:21.120
<v Speaker 1>corn and all these Hopie dances and cheap dances, and

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I was just I was taken away from all that

0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:29.839
<v Speaker 1>sadness inside and worked through another medium to uh get

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:35.320
<v Speaker 1>adopted by the Hopies, you know, really really cool. You know,

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to take you guys someday on a trip

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 1>or something, if you ever want to do an experience,

0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to take you to Sedona up to the Hopie Land,

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:48.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, man, that'd be amazing and massage therapy school.

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 1>The graduation rate of actually being able to pass the

0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:56.759
<v Speaker 1>test is minuscule. It's so different. It's one of the

0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:59.759
<v Speaker 1>most difficult tests to pass. It's something like in the

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:04.880
<v Speaker 1>thirty five percentile actually passed because you're doing entire physiological

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 1>study in like seven months. Gnesiology origin insertion of everybody.

0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like being a doctor basically, first it is which

0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 1>which was? You know, educationally, I was like a little whoa.

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:24.439
<v Speaker 1>It's it's apparently a very very difficult thing to learn

0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and to and to pass the test. And like you know,

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.560
<v Speaker 1>New York you need like thirteen hundred and fifty hours,

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 1>but in Arizona only needs seven and fifty. So that

0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:38.879
<v Speaker 1>was helpful in a lot of ways. And then um, yeah,

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I just I always thought I had healing hands and

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do something to get back, you know,

0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 1>to the world. And that was one of the things

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 1>that I did after after losing the show, just to

0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:55.479
<v Speaker 1>bring things back on the night, you know, higher level

0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 1>for me. Well, we were also happy to be reunited

0:50:59.840 --> 0:51:02.399
<v Speaker 1>with you on Girl Meets World when you came back

0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:08.320
<v Speaker 1>as Janitor Harley. What you did? Uh? Five episodes of

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Girl Meets World with us? What was it like when

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you got that phone call? And yeah, tell me about that.

0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I was. I was sitting here in this studio and

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:23.840
<v Speaker 1>my buddy Ben wir Um we gotta We got the

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:27.160
<v Speaker 1>call from Sally. So he's like, Danny, you know, like,

0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:30.080
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? Have you been? And it was like,

0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>how are you? I'm all right, I'm doing all right,

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:40.239
<v Speaker 1>you know. And she's like, well, listen, we're gonna send you,

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:42.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, how would you like to, you know, audition

0:51:42.840 --> 0:51:46.799
<v Speaker 1>for pardon Girl Meets World? And I was like, yeah,

0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:49.759
<v Speaker 1>that that would degree. She sent me the sides and

0:51:49.880 --> 0:51:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I put it on tape right here in the studio.

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Next week, I was out there. I think it happened

0:51:55.280 --> 0:52:01.440
<v Speaker 1>on April Fools Day. What man and so? Had you

0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:05.600
<v Speaker 1>not acted since Boy Meets World? Um? I had done

0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 1>a few things, but more like student films. Uh, you know,

0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I loved acting. I love telling a story and making

0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:16.400
<v Speaker 1>people feel good. You know, it's like the old school

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 1>storytellers of Ireland. That's how they used to do it.

0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:21.600
<v Speaker 1>You know. During the family they knocked on the door

0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:24.759
<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, have you heard the news about what's

0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:27.080
<v Speaker 1>going on over that? And that saying they're like, no,

0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard the news. Well I'll tell you for

0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:31.840
<v Speaker 1>a place to sleep for the night. And then they

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:36.120
<v Speaker 1>had this whole whimsical storytelling story that was like my grandfather,

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:39.719
<v Speaker 1>that was my dad, you know, always storytellers. You know.

0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Have you been to Ireland? Oh yeah, it's amazing. I

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:46.080
<v Speaker 1>think my family, my my mom's family is from Kerry,

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 1>which I think is close to where you are. Yeah, yeah,

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:51.960
<v Speaker 1>not far at all. I'm up in the western North,

0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the Free Ireland as they say a post. Do you

0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:00.880
<v Speaker 1>have a favorite episode of a Meets World that you

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:03.279
<v Speaker 1>that you think of all the time, or like any

0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:07.239
<v Speaker 1>favorite behind the scenes memories. Well, I think us Serena

0:53:07.960 --> 0:53:09.840
<v Speaker 1>was one of my one of my favorites because my

0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:13.439
<v Speaker 1>mom came to the taping. You guys were so nice.

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 1>You might not remember it, but you guys were so

0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:18.799
<v Speaker 1>nice to my mom and Betsy Randall was so nice

0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:24.200
<v Speaker 1>to my mom. She fed holiday dinner at her house. Really, yeah,

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:27.840
<v Speaker 1>tell me about that. So, Betsy, so your mom was

0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:31.960
<v Speaker 1>in town for Thanksgiving. For Thanksgiving I believe it was,

0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 1>And Betsy asked you what your plans were? Yeah, what

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:37.879
<v Speaker 1>are you doing? You know? Like, my Mom's like, well,

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:42.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, and she's like, yeah, come out, come out,

0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:45.640
<v Speaker 1>to come out to our house for Thanksgiving, you know.

0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:49.400
<v Speaker 1>So that's just so nice. And I went out. My

0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:53.920
<v Speaker 1>mom had such a nice time, and it's such a

0:53:54.000 --> 0:54:03.719
<v Speaker 1>bet so amazing. Yeah, Hey dudes, I'm David Lasher and

0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm Christine Taylor, and we host the podcast Hey Dude

0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the Nineties called if you all are nostalgic for the nineties,

0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:13.680
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0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:17.760
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0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:21.960
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0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:25.960
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0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:29.919
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0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:32.480
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<v Speaker 1>called on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or

0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:49.920
<v Speaker 1>wherever you listen to podcasts. So, Danny, you mentioned that

0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:52.440
<v Speaker 1>your mom came out to visit for the Serano episode,

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, she was obviously a huge fan

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of you and loved watching you on TV and loved

0:54:56.520 --> 0:54:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Boy Meets World. And then we got to see her

0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:02.640
<v Speaker 1>again as adults. We at her at a convention, and Um,

0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk about how you are doing now

0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:11.160
<v Speaker 1>because your mom unfortunately passed away in from COVID, right, yeah,

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:16.920
<v Speaker 1>she was. We have We had at the time a governor,

0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:22.280
<v Speaker 1>um Andrew Cuomo. He during the height of the pandemic,

0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:27.680
<v Speaker 1>he decided to put sick elderly people back into nursing

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:32.759
<v Speaker 1>homes and it was just ridiculous, like within a week

0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 1>my mom had passed from that decision too. And ever

0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:40.880
<v Speaker 1>since it's been like this void for me because I

0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:44.279
<v Speaker 1>spent so much time, um taking care of my mom

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:48.400
<v Speaker 1>uh in her later years when she was less mobile.

0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm just looking for something to fill that void,

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:58.400
<v Speaker 1>which I feel like, like will you said with the

0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:03.239
<v Speaker 1>things that helped you with your mental health, we're we're exercise,

0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and there's there's three things you said and then you know,

0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:10.160
<v Speaker 1>to be to be social, to talk about it hugely

0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:12.759
<v Speaker 1>important and this is helping me a lot, guys by

0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:15.759
<v Speaker 1>talking about it to like just now, you know, because

0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I know there's somebody out there you need to help.

0:56:18.760 --> 0:56:21.080
<v Speaker 1>And then how could you not be in today's world

0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:24.759
<v Speaker 1>with Turkey and earthquakes and all this stuff. You guys

0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:27.920
<v Speaker 1>are like a rayal light, honestly a rayal lighte for

0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:31.000
<v Speaker 1>for not just your point meets world, but you know,

0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:34.360
<v Speaker 1>like your your your symmetry, the way you guys work together,

0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:39.680
<v Speaker 1>your energy, it's it's it's contagious and it's it's it's

0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:41.680
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of cold. I like the whole world to

0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:47.400
<v Speaker 1>catch because you guys have a wonderful way of helping

0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:52.800
<v Speaker 1>people don't realize at all, but I'm sure there's somebody

0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:55.000
<v Speaker 1>out there right now that could be, you know, on

0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the verge of something, and by hearing our stories and

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:02.920
<v Speaker 1>by being honest, you know that we can help them. Danny,

0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:08.520
<v Speaker 1>You're you're so quick to turn attention and energy back

0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:11.560
<v Speaker 1>on other people. You're so quick to say yeah, but

0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:13.239
<v Speaker 1>you guys, and you guys are a ray of light.

0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:16.440
<v Speaker 1>But I really want you to take this in that,

0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:20.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, you being such a young child when you

0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:23.640
<v Speaker 1>lost your father and then stepping up your mom shortly

0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:26.720
<v Speaker 1>after that being diagnosed with bipolar disorder at the time

0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:29.640
<v Speaker 1>they called manic depression, and you knowing you needed to

0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:32.800
<v Speaker 1>step up and and live on your own and and

0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:37.320
<v Speaker 1>start your start working, and then you becoming this iconic

0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:41.800
<v Speaker 1>character that people absolutely love and adore and still to

0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:43.840
<v Speaker 1>this day. I mean, that's what iconic is. Still to

0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:47.160
<v Speaker 1>this day people talk about Danny McNulty as Harley Kiner,

0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and then you going through your own mental health issues,

0:57:51.320 --> 0:57:53.960
<v Speaker 1>moving back to New York, and then eventually becoming a

0:57:54.040 --> 0:57:57.280
<v Speaker 1>full time caretaker for your mother, who then you lost

0:57:57.320 --> 0:58:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to COVID. Hearing you talk about now needing to figure

0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:04.360
<v Speaker 1>out what this next stage of your life looks like

0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:07.480
<v Speaker 1>and what you are going to do as far as

0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 1>taking care of yourself is really beautiful because there are

0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:15.840
<v Speaker 1>so many people who can relate to you, and you

0:58:16.880 --> 0:58:19.200
<v Speaker 1>you can have. You have so much to teach other people.

0:58:19.640 --> 0:58:23.720
<v Speaker 1>And I just want to celebrate you as being a

0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:30.520
<v Speaker 1>phenomenal son MH and just a truly wonderful human being.

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I really really appreciate that. It means a lot because

0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:39.160
<v Speaker 1>you guys are like family to me. Honestly, I missed

0:58:39.200 --> 0:58:42.840
<v Speaker 1>you so much. We miss you too. I'd also like

0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:44.760
<v Speaker 1>to throw out that in the middle of all that,

0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:47.920
<v Speaker 1>you then took the time to work with elderly people,

0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:52.440
<v Speaker 1>right exactly. I skipped over that sticks six sticks, skipped

0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:55.200
<v Speaker 1>over working with the Native American elderly population in the

0:58:55.280 --> 0:58:58.160
<v Speaker 1>middle there. I mean, yeah, Danny that I don't know

0:58:58.200 --> 0:59:00.440
<v Speaker 1>about that the psychic you met, but you said one

0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:02.640
<v Speaker 1>thing that was absolutely true, which is you are a

0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:04.760
<v Speaker 1>light in the world, my friend. Yes, I hope you

0:59:04.840 --> 0:59:08.520
<v Speaker 1>know that. Thank you, guys, I really appreciate that. It

0:59:08.600 --> 0:59:13.120
<v Speaker 1>means a lot to me. Big sign. Well, looking back,

0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:17.040
<v Speaker 1>even with all the hard times that you faced and

0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:20.560
<v Speaker 1>all of all of that, what are what is your

0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:25.680
<v Speaker 1>overall feeling when you look back at Boy Meets World. Oh,

0:59:25.680 --> 0:59:28.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a dream come true. Everything that I worked for,

0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:32.120
<v Speaker 1>auditions and you know, anything that I did as a kid,

0:59:32.760 --> 0:59:35.840
<v Speaker 1>always dreamed of being on a TV show, you know,

0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and uh, it was something that it will always live

0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:43.600
<v Speaker 1>in in my heart, you know, like just just knowing

0:59:43.680 --> 0:59:47.520
<v Speaker 1>that I had done it. And yes, the bipolar happened,

0:59:47.600 --> 0:59:51.160
<v Speaker 1>but there were some pretty good times, some pretty good episodes,

0:59:51.360 --> 0:59:54.560
<v Speaker 1>like um, you know that that that that we did

0:59:54.600 --> 1:00:00.240
<v Speaker 1>together so many Yeah. Also, I mean I I say

1:00:00.280 --> 1:00:01.880
<v Speaker 1>this all the time about Topanga. We can all say

1:00:01.920 --> 1:00:03.600
<v Speaker 1>this about all of our characters. Were very blessed to

1:00:03.640 --> 1:00:08.080
<v Speaker 1>be able to say this. But actors literally work their

1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:13.520
<v Speaker 1>entire lives to be a memorable character even once. How

1:00:13.600 --> 1:00:16.200
<v Speaker 1>many people, how many actors do you know who have

1:00:16.360 --> 1:00:19.200
<v Speaker 1>done hundreds of things, and yet you're like, oh, I

1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:22.200
<v Speaker 1>can't really I know your face? I don't, but I

1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:25.400
<v Speaker 1>can't really you know, like and that's great, Yeah, I

1:00:25.920 --> 1:00:28.640
<v Speaker 1>know I know you from somewhere, and that's amazing. I mean,

1:00:28.680 --> 1:00:30.800
<v Speaker 1>that's that's still an incredible career. That's there. I'm not

1:00:30.920 --> 1:00:34.640
<v Speaker 1>dogging that. I'm just saying that, like you, in your

1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:38.840
<v Speaker 1>one major acting role that you did left a legacy

1:00:39.080 --> 1:00:44.640
<v Speaker 1>and an impact on innumerable people. And that's like people

1:00:44.680 --> 1:00:47.160
<v Speaker 1>spend their whole lives trying to have a career, trying

1:00:47.160 --> 1:00:49.360
<v Speaker 1>to find a character like that, and you did it.

1:00:51.640 --> 1:00:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean that really means a lot. Yeah. Yeah, we

1:00:56.440 --> 1:01:01.000
<v Speaker 1>couldn't love you anymore, Danny. I we us you are

1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:04.200
<v Speaker 1>like family to us. We always loved you. And you know,

1:01:04.280 --> 1:01:06.680
<v Speaker 1>what's another thing we talked about when we think back

1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:09.640
<v Speaker 1>to that time, like there wasn't self. There weren't even

1:01:09.720 --> 1:01:12.800
<v Speaker 1>cell phones. It's not like now when something happens and

1:01:12.840 --> 1:01:15.080
<v Speaker 1>then you can just text somebody and be like, hey,

1:01:15.440 --> 1:01:18.840
<v Speaker 1>are you okay? You know, tough tough show, tough night,

1:01:18.960 --> 1:01:21.760
<v Speaker 1>tough day, tough day, will read are you okay? We

1:01:22.000 --> 1:01:28.240
<v Speaker 1>just didn't have it now. Always it unless exactly and

1:01:28.280 --> 1:01:33.680
<v Speaker 1>then you unless there was a page code specifically for

1:01:34.920 --> 1:01:38.880
<v Speaker 1>you didn't know how to do it. Yeah. Well, thank

1:01:38.960 --> 1:01:41.200
<v Speaker 1>you for coming on here and telling us in your

1:01:41.240 --> 1:01:44.760
<v Speaker 1>own words your story finally like solving a bit of

1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:48.280
<v Speaker 1>a mystery for us. And um, you know we love you,

1:01:48.520 --> 1:01:51.120
<v Speaker 1>we will we would love to have you back. Um.

1:01:52.320 --> 1:01:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I've already put the word out as far as some

1:01:54.800 --> 1:01:59.000
<v Speaker 1>conventions that we would love to have you join us. Um.

1:01:59.320 --> 1:02:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Not that I have you saying that, but I have

1:02:01.160 --> 1:02:04.720
<v Speaker 1>started saying to people, hey, have you thought about this?

1:02:05.000 --> 1:02:07.520
<v Speaker 1>This would be a good edition, just just throwing it

1:02:07.560 --> 1:02:12.080
<v Speaker 1>out there. Um. And so let's make three the year

1:02:12.440 --> 1:02:16.360
<v Speaker 1>we have another you know, an in person reunion and

1:02:16.880 --> 1:02:23.640
<v Speaker 1>uh you know anniversary. And I would love to be

1:02:23.800 --> 1:02:27.720
<v Speaker 1>witness to you receiving the love that you so deserve

1:02:28.040 --> 1:02:32.920
<v Speaker 1>from our dear listeners and dear fans who rightfully love you. Yep,

1:02:33.160 --> 1:02:36.680
<v Speaker 1>fansy years, my friend. There's millions of them out there. Uh.

1:02:37.360 --> 1:02:39.320
<v Speaker 1>And I love each one of them, man, honestly, when

1:02:39.360 --> 1:02:41.600
<v Speaker 1>they come up to me and it's like, I love

1:02:41.880 --> 1:02:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I love it. It's just it's such a nice feeling,

1:02:44.240 --> 1:02:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, because it brings me back to everything before

1:02:47.720 --> 1:02:50.360
<v Speaker 1>everything happened, you know, like that's let's see, they don't

1:02:50.360 --> 1:02:54.000
<v Speaker 1>know anything else, you know. Yeah, yeah, i'd really love that. Guys.

1:02:54.480 --> 1:02:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Great Danny, we love you, thank you for being here,

1:02:59.320 --> 1:03:15.560
<v Speaker 1>all righty oh man, it's so it's so funny that

1:03:15.680 --> 1:03:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the gentlest human being in the world played the biggest bully,

1:03:19.160 --> 1:03:21.640
<v Speaker 1>right right? And and is that is that built into

1:03:21.720 --> 1:03:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the character, Like there's something so great. I think that's

1:03:24.760 --> 1:03:26.320
<v Speaker 1>part of the reason why it works so well as

1:03:26.320 --> 1:03:29.600
<v Speaker 1>a character, is that you cast somebody like Danny who,

1:03:29.760 --> 1:03:32.720
<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, you're like, but that guy, he shouldn't

1:03:32.720 --> 1:03:36.040
<v Speaker 1>be a bully, right If you're like, no, he's he's

1:03:36.120 --> 1:03:39.320
<v Speaker 1>he's he's got going through something that's more, that's more,

1:03:39.520 --> 1:03:43.000
<v Speaker 1>that's deeper, that's that comes from a place actually honestly

1:03:43.120 --> 1:03:46.120
<v Speaker 1>of a pain, you know, Like I think Harley radiates

1:03:46.480 --> 1:03:50.240
<v Speaker 1>a sensitivity and a pain that I think was true

1:03:50.280 --> 1:03:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to Danny too, Like this struggle that he was you

1:03:53.000 --> 1:03:54.800
<v Speaker 1>know that he had gone through, and all these things

1:03:55.120 --> 1:03:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that comes through in his acting so clearly, and that sensitivity,

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<v Speaker 1>it's beautiful, it's beful and and immediately you're You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>am I I should be scared of him? But I

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<v Speaker 1>also kind of want to know more about him? Right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What what an amazing feat for an actor and for

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<v Speaker 1>the writers, it's just great. Yeah, you're right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>had he just been um a bully? You just write

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<v Speaker 1>that guy off? Don't like that guy, don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>know more about him. He's just a jerk. And yet

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<v Speaker 1>that isn't the way you feel about Harley. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to know more. And yeah, his sensitivity really does shine through.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, I mean truly nobody is better to their

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<v Speaker 1>fans than Danny. If you check out his social media,

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<v Speaker 1>he really does. When he says he loves each and

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<v Speaker 1>every fan, he means it. I mean, I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's a single soul on the planet

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<v Speaker 1>Danny doesn't find love for he's he's so grateful. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's also taking you know, most of his

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<v Speaker 1>life just taking care of other people. Yeah, right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he's done. He's one of those people. So yeah, amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And and for everybody out there listening, if you're struggling

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<v Speaker 1>with your own mental health journeys, ask for help. It's

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<v Speaker 1>okay to ask for help. It's you should ask for help.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no weakness in it, there's no stigma behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay to say I'm struggling here and I need

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<v Speaker 1>some help. I did it, Danny did it. Other people

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<v Speaker 1>do it all the time. It's nothing will help you

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<v Speaker 1>on your path more than just raising your hand and

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<v Speaker 1>saying I'm struggling here and I need some help. So

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<v Speaker 1>please do that if you have to. There's plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>places out there you can find to do that. Um

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<v Speaker 1>telling you even just friends, it really changes the whole ballgame.

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<v Speaker 1>It does. And to Will's point, if you or someone

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<v Speaker 1>you know needs help, there is the Mental Health Hotline

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<v Speaker 1>and the number is eight six six nine zero three

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