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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of the Almost Famous Podcast. Today,

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Speaker 2: we have a like we know, we always say this

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Speaker 2: a lot, but we have a very special guest, like

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Speaker 2: she's exclusive everybody to get her, okay, and I'm like

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Speaker 2: a little giddy. I put makeup on for this, Like

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Speaker 2: everybody knows that. When I put makeup on for an interview,

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Speaker 2: it's like, okay, this is like a bachelor a lister.

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Speaker 3: So so for example, if Ashley and I just do

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Speaker 3: an interview with each other.

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Speaker 2: Like like a roll out of bed anyway, but don't

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Speaker 2: say anything our guest, don't say anything. You're giggling in

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Speaker 2: the background, which I like that tease. But look what

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Speaker 2: we have that I cut vegetables on on the regular.

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Speaker 2: I've in a windmill and guess what we did it

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Speaker 2: a second time on a freaking cunning board.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now you can speak, Hi, Hannah, I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know they made those, but I'm glad.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. During your season, somebody sent this to

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Speaker 2: us and it is my favorite cutting board. And then

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Speaker 2: Jared and I are always like, like, at what point

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Speaker 2: do we have to hide this because like Dawson will

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Speaker 2: be able to read.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's a quality cutting board.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hi, Ana Brown, how you doing?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great?

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Speaker 5: How are y'all so good?

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Speaker 3: We have a lot to talk to you about today.

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Speaker 3: You are as usual doing Uh. I wouldn't say a

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Speaker 3: lot because a lot makes it just sound like you're

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Speaker 3: doing a lot. You're doing a lot of things well

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Speaker 3: right now and you have been like you don't lose

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Speaker 3: like ever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I really need to hear that now because sometimes

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Speaker 4: I'm like, what am I doing?

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Speaker 6: But yeah, right now I do feel like I'm doing

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Speaker 6: it a lot.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: I want you to add well though.

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Speaker 4: Okay, thank you. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: So this is where I want to start the show.

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Speaker 3: Though we're going to talk about the podcast, We're going

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Speaker 3: to talk about the book, We're going to talk about

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Speaker 3: life now, your move and all of that. But I

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Speaker 3: was driving today and I was like, what is the

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Speaker 3: thing that I want to know from Hannah? Like, what

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Speaker 3: is it that I want on because what we've seen

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Speaker 3: from you is what we've seen from you is you

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Speaker 3: dominated kind of the media circus that happens after the show,

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Speaker 3: and you did it so well and you went on

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Speaker 3: to compete in a couple other shows and do those

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Speaker 3: so well, and then something interesting happened this summer is

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Speaker 3: when you went to Paradise and I felt like everybody

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Speaker 3: loves you so much and that's great, but they were

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Speaker 3: like really hyping you up. And what I thought was

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Speaker 3: that has to be kind of hard for you because

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Speaker 3: it's like people are holding you to a very high standard.

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Speaker 3: And granted that's a gift that they know even do that,

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Speaker 3: but I want to notice start this thing off, Hannah Brown,

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Speaker 3: can you give us an example, so everybody out here

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Speaker 3: feels like you're human of a time in the last

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Speaker 3: two years or recently that you have lost that you

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Speaker 3: feel like you fell short, that something hasn't worked out

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Speaker 3: to your plan.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, it's so interesting, like to hear other

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Speaker 6: people talk about you in a certain way. It's very

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Speaker 6: different than the way that I view myself. And I'm

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Speaker 6: trying to really work on that. Like I guess, I'm

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Speaker 6: trying to think of like what an instance of it's

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Speaker 6: a lot of like just self talk that I always

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Speaker 6: feel like I'm not doing thing as.

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Speaker 3: Well, You've failed that nothing.

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Speaker 2: You have a really hot fiance too, your personal life

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Speaker 2: is thriving.

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Speaker 6: No, oh my gosh, that's so like, Yes, I have

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Speaker 6: the best fiance, and I'm so thankful for my personal

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Speaker 6: life being at the place that it is now.

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Speaker 4: There's so much behind the.

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Speaker 6: Scenes and hard work and failures in the process of

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Speaker 6: a success. I feel like that sometimes just people don't

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Speaker 6: see you don't assume or you know, I'm in such

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Speaker 4: Present at that time. That's normally what it is.

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Speaker 6: If you're not seeing me, it's because I'm unwell the

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Speaker 6: point of like people will be like, do we need

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Speaker 6: those moments all in between, but just continue to like

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Speaker 6: have had some of these successes very like it's almost

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Speaker 6: bizarre to me that people like think of me as

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Speaker 6: like winning because in my past even before like I

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Speaker 6: did pageants, I competed in pageants for like years and

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Speaker 6: years and years and before I won Missaving Us say,

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Speaker 6: like I didn't even place in the top ten for years,

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Speaker 6: which like usually people like, you know you play so

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Speaker 6: you you know, you're always like creeping up and then

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Speaker 6: you eventually like do your time and you win the thing.

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Speaker 6: And so I I remember going to that pageant that

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Speaker 6: why am I doing this to myself again, and my

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Speaker 6: mom being like, well, like, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, you're like a first place loser.

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Speaker 6: At this point, like I had just gotten so good

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Speaker 6: at just being able, being like I put myself out

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Speaker 6: there and I've worked so hard, and then just like

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Speaker 6: I got to miss USA, like I didn't place at all,

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Speaker 6: like and I was just I was just happy, honestly,

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Speaker 6: like just happy to be there because before it just

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Speaker 6: it was almost like just a true dream come true

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Speaker 6: just like wins everything, because I really I didn't I

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Speaker 6: showed up. I will say I think I show up,

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Speaker 6: But I've had a lot of things in my life

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Speaker 6: and even just like personally like feeling definitely not like

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Speaker 6: get what people, I guess just think of. But that's

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Speaker 6: just like not the case behind the scenes and like

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Speaker 6: everyday life things. Everything that I do right now, I'm like,

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Speaker 6: you know, whether it's the podcast and the book I

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Speaker 6: can I always think I could be winning more and

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Speaker 6: in some in some way, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What is it about TV that makes you win? Like,

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Speaker 7: I think?

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Speaker 6: So I think the things that I've done, I go

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Speaker 6: into okay, actually I know this. Sorry, I like to

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Speaker 2: I do that too.

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Speaker 4: It's really bad.

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Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons I initially related to

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I love how this girl just

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Speaker 4: What am I saying? I don't ever know, but I

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Speaker 4: I feel like real life is really hard for me.

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Speaker 6: But when I'm put in like certain like weird situations

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Speaker 6: where like I'm bubbled and there's only one thing that

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Speaker 6: versus like all the other thoughts in my head going on.

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Speaker 6: If that made any sense.

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Speaker 4: Probably not.

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Speaker 6: But I feel like when I'm in like controled space

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Speaker 6: on that and just be dialed in and nothing else matters,

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Speaker 6: Like genuinely, nothing else matter matters. And I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 6: just doing this dance show. I'm just doing this survival

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Speaker 6: special Force of show. I'm just doing this thing trying

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Speaker 6: to find love. Like I just get really focused in.

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Speaker 6: And that's not real life though, Like There's always going

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Speaker 6: to be distractions and things that come up in different feelings,

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Speaker 6: in different situations going on all around you. So in

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Speaker 6: real life, like I don't I don't always win, But

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Speaker 6: when I have something that's just like one thing to

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Speaker 6: focus on, I do well with that.

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Speaker 3: What's the thing right now? Like what would you be

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Speaker 3: focusing in on? I mean, I know the book comes

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Speaker 3: out May seventh, but you know I've walked through the

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Speaker 3: releasing of a book process You've obviously have as well.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to like really figure out, I feel like,

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Speaker 3: how to like focus in on the releasing of a book.

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Speaker 3: Like you do the media, you do the prep, you

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Speaker 3: or not to read. So maybe that's it. Maybe you're

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Speaker 3: finding out a way to focus in on this better

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Speaker 3: than I did, and that's why your books are so successful.

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Speaker 3: But right now, what is like taking up your main focus?

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Speaker 6: The book really is taking up most of my focus

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Speaker 6: right now. I'll like do anything in every thing to

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Speaker 4: But like you said, it is.

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Speaker 6: It's different, and there's like it's nuance, and it's not

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Speaker 6: not like people have so many other things that they're competing.

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Speaker 6: I'm competing yet so many different authors, so many different

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Speaker 4: So it's not the same type of thing.

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Speaker 6: And this has actually been something I really talk a

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Speaker 6: lot about in therapy because, like I said, real life,

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Speaker 6: even just like real work life is harder for me

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Speaker 6: because it's not so like this is the thing that

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Speaker 6: you do. Everything else stops when you do these shows

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Speaker 6: like and I do great in that, but that is

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Speaker 6: just not real life, and not even real like work

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Speaker 4: Have anything else because that's like that other.

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Speaker 6: Than when I'm doing a TV show that I feel like, man,

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Speaker 4: I guess somebody's gotta find me something else to be on.

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Speaker 3: That's funny.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you had God Bless This Mess, your basically

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Speaker 2: autobiography come out a couple of years ago, and now

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Speaker 2: this is a romance fiction novel.

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Speaker 4: It's called Mistakes.

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Speaker 2: We Never Made. How is it promoting a book that's

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Speaker 2: all about like your personal story versus one that is

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Speaker 2: pretty much made up.

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Speaker 6: It's such a different experience, for sure. I feel like

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Speaker 6: the first book was definitely more.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 6: It was harder in different ways too, like more emotionally exhausting.

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Speaker 6: It was very vulnerable to have to like show up

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Speaker 6: and be like, this is my story from from an

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Speaker 6: and from my account of everything that's happened in my

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Speaker 6: life and then have everybody kind of like judge that

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Speaker 6: or I think, see you did differently.

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Speaker 4: And in some ways it was really great.

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Speaker 6: For the most part, I feel like people actually got

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Speaker 6: to see like me more as a full person. But

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Speaker 6: that was really vulnerable and hard. Where this project is

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Speaker 6: really hard is that, yeah, it's creating a whole universe

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Speaker 6: I want people to really get to kind of go

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Speaker 4: So take the risk and make the mistakes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you meet you the love of your life?

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Speaker 6: So I got tired of stuff I was doing, like

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Speaker 6: Whoa And it was so cute and I had just

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Speaker 4: He like that was our little conversation and he was like, hey,

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Speaker 6: Direct and I love that. I would be like any

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Speaker 4: He can't do that.

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Speaker 2: So when did he bring up or did you bring up? Like, okay,

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Speaker 6: The bachelorette yeah, So he did not know who I

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Speaker 4: I had a really good profile. We'll see it was good.

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Speaker 6: So then of course we talked about it, but I

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Speaker 4: I mean, of course he had heard.

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Speaker 3: There's there's a lot here that I First off, you know,

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Speaker 3: filming these dates until the perfect moment. I love that move.

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Speaker 3: What a great move by him, What an incredible just like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Gosh, I don't think it was really a moment.

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Speaker 6: For me. I have always I think from the show,

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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah it was, it was.

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Speaker 6: It was hard, and even when I met Adam, I

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Speaker 6: Like I just I thought there was something like broken

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Speaker 4: And I was. I had a lot that I was

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Speaker 6: And one of my main stories that I tell myself

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Speaker 4: People to see me when I'm good, And I knew.

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Speaker 6: I was like, I'm like I'm not good, Like I

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Speaker 4: Awesome.

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Speaker 6: And I only I thought that the only way somebody

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Speaker 4: He really showed me through.

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Speaker 6: was really hard, and he showed me that I was

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00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 6: lovable in any way that I showed up and when

447
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 6: I was at my absolute.

448
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 4: Worst, like he loved me and showed up for me

449
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 4: and was there for me. So it really was like.

450
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 6: Not a moment, but just the consistency of him showing

451
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 6: me that I was lovable and worthy and even at

452
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 6: my absolute lowest of low and that just made me

453
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 6: realize like, oh, this is somebody that I want to

454
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 6: do life with and have like really great times with

455
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 6: and be able and know that we can get through

456
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 6: really hard times too.

457
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 3: My final relationship question here, how is that experience from him?

458
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: And this can happen vice versa. I'm sure if he

459
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 3: was sitting here too, he would say that you've done

460
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: the same for him in so many different ways. But

461
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 3: we're talking to you now, so we're going to focus

462
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 3: on you. How has his consistency in allowing you to

463
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 3: show up in whatever space you're in, proving to you

464
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: that you are lovable? How has that changed you or

465
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 3: not changed you?

466
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 2: Now?

467
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 3: Like as you sit here today as a person.

468
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 4: Oh, it's changed me so much like really knowing that.

469
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 6: Really, I mean, it was the first time that I

470
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 6: really knew and believed that I didn't have to perform

471
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 6: for love has been just like such a huge experience

472
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 6: or even like in love in any way love and

473
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 6: relationships of course romantically, but also in the relationships with

474
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 6: friends with family, Like the love that I deserve is

475
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 6: to be able to show up as I am and

476
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 6: be vulnerable in that way, and that there are people

477
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 6: that will.

478
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 4: Love me.

479
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 6: For who I am and as I am in that

480
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 6: time and will ride the ways with me and but

481
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 6: also challenge me.

482
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 4: I think that's all. It's not that like Adam is

483
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 4: somebody that just allows me to be.

484
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 6: In a you know, in in all the that he

485
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 6: allows me to be in the emotions, but he does

486
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 6: speak truth and light into into who I really am.

487
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 6: Even when I don't feel or believe those good things

488
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 6: about me. He always like tries to lift me up.

489
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 6: And so it's really changed the way that I view

490
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 6: what like love is just in general, like my definition

491
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 6: of love has changed so much.

492
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 4: What I believed it was to.

493
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 6: Fall in love with someone or be in love with

494
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 6: someone is like a totally different experience I've had to

495
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 6: really relearn, and it takes a lot of work, and

496
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 6: especially if you have like a tough background when it

497
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 6: comes to like love, like what love was like.

498
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 4: In your.

499
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 6: In your household, in your like previous relationships, there's a

500
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 6: lot of unlearning that has to be done and it

501
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 6: can be really really painful and hard to like gosh,

502
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 6: realize like what you think about yourself or how you've

503
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 6: continued these patterns. And but man, I've just had like

504
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 6: a rock with me the whole time. And he's also

505
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 6: like like you you said, Ben, like he has its

506
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 6: own stuff. He is he is great and awesome, but

507
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 6: he is not He is not perfect. And it's been

508
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 6: really cool to also go on this journey with him

509
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 6: to be able to call out the the things in

510
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 6: his life that he's believed about himself, whether that's being

511
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 6: broken or burden or whatever, and really.

512
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 4: Be able to lift each other up together. It's been

513
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 4: really cool and I'm so thankful.

514
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 2: Really, this is so special. I'm so glad that you've

515
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 2: gone through this and that you have each other. Why

516
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: did you mc guys decide to make the move to

517
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 2: Nashville versus La?

518
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we met in La. But Adam had lived

519
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 4: here for seven years before he lived in LA for.

520
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 6: A bit, and I always thought I would end up

521
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 6: in Nashville because I'm from Alabama.

522
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 4: My hometown's like three and a half hours away and

523
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 4: always easy.

524
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: That's nice.

525
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's great because it's still it's like booming, but

526
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 6: there's a lot to do. But I also can be

527
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 6: close to my family. And it was so weird. We

528
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 6: we had an amazing place in Santa Monica.

529
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: I know, I remember seeing it on Instagram all the time.

530
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: It was beautiful, it.

531
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 4: Was so beautiful.

532
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 6: The rent was absolutely insane, to be honest, like it was.

533
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 6: It was crazy, and but I was like, this is

534
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 6: where I want to live, but we need more space.

535
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 6: And it would go went from our crazy rent to like,

536
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 6: you know, a lot of million dollar house the eight

537
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 6: million dollar houses. I'm like, I'm not there, spoiler, I'm

538
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 6: not there yet. And I was like, what are we

539
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 6: gonna do? Are we going to keep just like spending

540
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 6: this much on rent? Like but then I don't want

541
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 6: to leave this tamp this this place. But I always

542
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 6: had like Nashville in the back of my mind, and

543
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 6: we're like okay, We're like, look, we can always come

544
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 6: back here. We were thinking about our our at least

545
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 6: was coming up doing something else, and Nashville came up

546
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 6: in the conversation and then we were like we're to

547
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 6: sleep on.

548
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: And then the next day Adam gets a.

549
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 6: Call from an old employer in Nashville ask him if

550
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 6: he wanted to get back into his old job, and

551
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 6: that like just seeing if he would, if he'd be

552
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 6: interested in like what our plans were.

553
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 4: So it was so weird. Literally the next day that's.

554
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 6: About and then yeah, we ended up being like, well

555
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 6: this is a sign and he's not even still with

556
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 6: that job, but that's what brought us.

557
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 4: Out here, And yeah, I really love it. I had

558
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 4: a hard time this summer, I mean this winter.

559
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: Because it was dark and you were seeing all your

560
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: friends in La and it's so nice.

561
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 4: I know, I guess that was really hard, but like

562
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 4: now you know, i'll have one good month.

563
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: You'll have way more than one. Well, he does get

564
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: super hot and he went there, but still it's better

565
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: that then.

566
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: Wild they complain about any weather. I had four foot

567
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: of snow.

568
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 4: I mean, you like it, I genuinely could. I I'm

569
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 4: here again. I can never see snow again and be happy.

570
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 4: I hate the cold.

571
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: I don't agree.

572
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to be warm.

573
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 6: I actually I just want to be like in a

574
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 6: nice sixty five with a light breeze at all times,

575
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 6: which is LA.

576
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 4: So I'm like that I missed that a lot. But

577
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 4: the community here's really great.

578
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 3: National is a great place. You're gonna love it, I

579
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 3: think fits you.

580
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like you're like Nashville Barbie.

581
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 4: All right, I'll take that.

582
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome.

583
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 6: I'm still like trying to like get I mean, we've

584
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 6: made some so many great great friends here, but still

585
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 6: trying to like get involved in the community and stuff.

586
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 4: But yeah, it makes sense, It totally makes sense.

587
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 6: I'm still like super Southern to the core, but I

588
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 6: want I love being in a place that has like

589
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 6: a lot to do and offers a lot as far

590
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 6: as just like.

591
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 4: For our future. And I'm happy.

592
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 6: But I'm going to LA next week to like get

593
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 6: my little fix and then I'll come home.

594
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 8: I do that too.

595
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: You'll learn to love it more when you can only

596
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: be out there for a week, trust me.

597
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 6: All right.

598
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: I have two questions kind of back to back, but

599
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: it starts with one and it's going to end on

600
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: the other. I'm hearing your story now since we've talked

601
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: about your book, and this main character Emma in your

602
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: book is Emma you like, it sounds like a lot

603
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: of what you're talking about when it comes to your

604
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: insecurities and your relationship with Adam and then kind of

605
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: your move and your thought process on life. It sounds

606
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: a lot like what you're teasing for the book.

607
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's a part of me.

608
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 6: So the way this book kind of all came about

609
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 6: was actually through the female friendship in the book. I

610
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 6: really I think one of the greatest loves of your

611
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 6: life can be with your friends. And so it started

612
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 6: with the idea of this were for this group of

613
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 6: girls in the book being different parts of who I am.

614
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 6: I mean, there's there's an obvious character like Nikki, who

615
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 6: was one of the girls in the front in the

616
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 6: girl group, like she was the the lead on a

617
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 6: show called Love By where it was a dating show.

618
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 6: There's there's Sybil, who's kind of the one that just

619
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 6: floats around and can't really commit to things and can

620
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 6: be just interesting, kind of complicated, but like lovable. And

621
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 6: then there's Emma, who's definitely the part of me that

622
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 6: kind of feels like I have to have things figured out,

623
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 6: that sometimes has the need to control, has a lot

624
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 6: of like stuff in their pass that she needs to

625
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 6: tackle head on because it's really showing up, and how

626
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 6: she's like not able to fully give into a relationship.

627
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's she is a part of me, but

628
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 6: not not me at all at the same at the

629
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 6: same time, like this is totally a work of fiction.

630
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 6: But like I said, the thing that connects this book

631
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 6: so even like my last book is there you have

632
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 6: to write her o a place of truth. I can't

633
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 6: just like make up anything, Like how are people really

634
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 6: going to connect that if I can't connect to it?

635
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 6: So the feelings and the thoughts that Emma have are

636
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 6: definitely thoughts and feelings that I.

637
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 4: Have or have had in my past.

638
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: So you talk about this book then, and you entering

639
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: into it, you have a very successful podcast, You've just

640
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: made this big move even life, you are the winner

641
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: of so many things, especially on national television. It really

642
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 3: feels like your sweet spot, And how do you go

643
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 3: about making the decision to enter into stuff or not? Then?

644
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: Because even with this book, it sounds like it's vulnerable,

645
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: like you're going to release a lot of your inner thoughts,

646
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: your inner feelings, and if all these characters are a

647
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: piece of you in some way, people are going to

648
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: get a more, you know, an even larger perspective on

649
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 3: you as a person. So when you have all these

650
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: opportunities kind of laying in front of you, or are

651
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: these decisions, how are you going about making the decision

652
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 3: to say yes or no to them?

653
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've had to get a little bit more clear

654
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 6: on that as I'm trying to just figure out, like

655
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 6: who the heck am I not who people like have

656
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 6: labeled me to be or thought of me to be.

657
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 4: I think I got a little.

658
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 6: Internally, at least a little loss in that how what

659
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 6: people liked about me versus who I actually was. And

660
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 6: I'm just trying to make sure that everything is in

661
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 6: alignment to who like I really am and.

662
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 4: If it doesn't feel.

663
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 6: Right or aligned with like my core values or what

664
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 6: I want to be able to put out in the

665
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 6: world or challenge myself in some way to see myself

666
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 6: in a different light.

667
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 4: But like.

668
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 6: That is kind of how I base everything. Like when

669
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 6: I did like Special Forces, for example, like that was

670
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 6: really just too I was in such a place like

671
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 6: I kind of alluded to earlier, like not the best place,

672
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 6: especially like belief in myself of what I was capable of.

673
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 4: I was going through some health stuff too, so it

674
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 4: really it pushed me.

675
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 6: To know that I was like much more capable than

676
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 6: I to do things and I believed in myself to be.

677
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 6: So if it it comes from something like that, I

678
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 6: really just like challenging myself to push myself more. Like

679
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 6: I'm totally down for that, but it just has to

680
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 6: be in alignment to who I actually am. And if

681
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 6: it's not, then I don't want to be a part

682
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 6: of that because honestly, like.

683
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: I don't know how to fake it. Uh, it doesn't

684
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 4: work out for me.

685
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 6: That's why I either am going to show up and

686
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 6: it's going to be like really messy or I just

687
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 6: like don't show up at all. And maybe sometimes I

688
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 6: just really nail it on the first go, but that

689
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 6: is far between.

690
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: But to ask me.

691
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 6: To be something that I'm just not like, I I

692
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 6: can't do it because it'll be really really bad.

693
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: That's why everybody loves you though, That's why you were

694
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: one of the greatest bachelorettes because you cannot fake it.

695
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: There is not like an ounce of being able to act.

696
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: And that's why I wanted you to be the Bachelorette

697
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: so bad because watching you in Colton season, I was like,

698
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: this girl is so me like, and that's what so

699
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: many girls out there, I thought, because like there's very

700
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: few times, well it just seems like so many girls

701
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: on the show are so poised and they're just so

702
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 2: comfortable around the guy.

703
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 4: And I'm like, what, no, yeah, not me. But then

704
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 4: it's weird because then you get in these experiences and

705
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 4: then you feel.

706
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 6: Like like I've always struggled this when I was and

707
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 6: pat is like I would miss out being but being myself.

708
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 4: I became the Bachelotte by being myself.

709
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 6: But then there's like this thing like this, like these

710
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 6: little whispers inside of me that are like want me

711
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 6: to try to change or I feel like it was

712
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 6: a fluke, or they don't know what they really don't

713
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 6: They actually really don't want to be with me. People

714
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 6: are disappointed, and that's when I that is when that

715
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 6: friction comes.

716
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 4: That's when I really struggle.

717
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 6: When time and time again, the times that I've really

718
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 6: been successful was when I I haven't let those whispers

719
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 6: and thoughts get in my head, and I've truly been.

720
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 4: Able to just be like this is me, and if

721
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 4: you don't.

722
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 6: Like that or doesn't resonate with you, that's okay, like

723
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 6: somebody else with will.

724
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 4: But it's been definitely sorry, I keep moving. So it's

725
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: definitely been a cycle. Well it's because of my freaking toes.

726
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 6: But then also this, I've talked about this way too much.

727
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 6: You're pressed, but I had any room removal surgery and

728
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 6: my toes hurt.

729
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 4: But I'm trying to like sit, There's just a lot

730
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 4: going on.

731
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: So I can't sit with just my legs straight, with

732
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: my feet on the floor. I hate that. It's the worst.

733
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: Same so when I have a podcast, I like sit

734
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: on my legs they're crossed. I'm like up high, I'm

735
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: down low. I cannot just sit like you would on

736
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: a plane, which I think.

737
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 4: Is okay, say a lot. I don't even see the

738
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 4: plane like that, and it's but.

739
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 6: I I'm sitting in a place that's usually comfortable for me.

740
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 6: But then I have the ingram tonels. I think I'm like,

741
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 6: this is I shouldn't be sitting like this.

742
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a great transition to some fun yet

743
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: very very juicy questions that I have lined up for you. Okay, perfect, Okay,

744
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: We'll start with like the least juicy. When you found

745
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: out that Nick and Tyler are both doing Special Forces,

746
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: were you like these mother efforts, like they cannot they

747
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: can't well, they can't win.

748
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 4: I was.

749
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 6: I was interested to see how they did, for sure,

750
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 6: because it's such a like mental thing and.

751
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know Nick that well at all.

752
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 6: But with Tyler, I figured physically he would be able

753
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 6: to do this stuff. But I was really interested, like

754
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 6: mentally but was I was completely shocked and I found

755
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 6: out they both went too.

756
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: I was like, you gotta be like this is this

757
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 4: is wild. But I just had to run myself. I

758
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 4: did first, I know.

759
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 2: And how funny were those jokes where they like line

760
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: all three of your you know, your pictures together and

761
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: it would be like what do they go through on

762
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: the Bachelor that makes them so good at this?

763
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 7: I'm telling you though, it is it really did, Like

764
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 7: I noticed that so much on the show, Like because

765
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 7: we're in like such a bubble, I don't think I

766
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 7: will really realize like what it's like.

767
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 6: To be on the Bachelor bachelortt like you have no

768
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 6: control over anything, like you don't have a phone, Like

769
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 6: people were really having a hard time like not having

770
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 6: access to their phone and being able to reach out

771
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 6: to people, or.

772
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 4: It's a social The Bachelor Rachelotte is like a social

773
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 4: experiment in a lot of ways, and so was the show.

774
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 6: So I think it really prepped me for that, like

775
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 6: I said, just being like totally focused on one thing,

776
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 6: whether that's our relationship or just surviving a desert. I

777
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 6: do think that it prepared prepares us all pretty well.

778
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: Obviously it has, especially without like vulnerability emotional aspect that

779
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: they put you through.

780
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's you know, like with the shows that

781
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 6: we've all been on, the producers are like super involved

782
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 6: in it.

783
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 4: We're like, yeah, there is not any producers.

784
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 6: Like I truly survived of being like okay, you are

785
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 6: still on a TV show, even though it doesn't feel

786
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 6: like it, Like it feels like I'm just left with

787
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 6: these really big scars, not going to die. You are

788
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 6: not going to die. There are cameras at least I

789
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 6: see cameras. They're not going to let me die. Where

790
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 6: the producer interaction is like so huge on of course,

791
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 6: like any Bachelor show, so like that was a big difference,

792
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 6: but as far as like psychological warfare, different.

793
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 4: But the same.

794
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 2: Okay, So I was listening to you on this She's

795
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: All Batch podcast and they asked you what would have

796
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: happened if Adam was on your season and you had

797
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: It was a great explanation, but like, you know, go

798
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: go ahead and listen to that if you want, but

799
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: I want to ask you what would have happened? Where

800
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 2: would your life would have been now if you picked

801
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: Tyler over Jed.

802
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 6: I don't know, I genuinely I don't know. I think

803
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 6: it would be a miracle we were still together.

804
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 4: I think there.

805
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 6: That's just I give props to people like you actually

806
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 6: that have been able to, like I think it's a

807
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 6: really hard way to start a relationship and you have

808
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 6: to like really love and like be.

809
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 4: Support each other in that.

810
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 6: It's just been my own experience that I like, really

811
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 6: admire people who have and truly believe that those are

812
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 6: people that were supposed to meet each other and that's

813
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 6: what the show is for people like you, guys, But

814
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 6: for a lot of us, it's it's it's a tough

815
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 6: way to start a relationship. So you know, I really

816
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 6: I don't know how to answer that. I think what

817
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 6: I've talked about, she's all just like what I mentioned,

818
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 6: like the thoughts in the way that I viewed myself

819
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 6: as a lead. I definitely obviously had moments of like

820
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 6: strength and like coming to know who I am, which

821
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 6: really started on The Bachelor as they had like baby

822
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 6: deer feet.

823
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 4: I was just like being like, oh, well, I actually

824
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: can do.

825
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 6: This, but then was like tore completely down and really

826
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 6: started thinking of myself in ways that weren't really helpful for.

827
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 4: Being able to really know the.

828
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 6: People that were genuinely there for me or not, and

829
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 6: even believing that there were people that were actually there

830
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 6: for me. It's a really interesting thing to like when

831
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 6: you break it down that the person that I ended

832
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 6: up choosing with someone who was honest with me about

833
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 6: his intentions not being there, but that resonated with me

834
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 6: because that's what I believed.

835
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 4: I believe that nobody.

836
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 6: Was there for me, so I was like, oh, at

837
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 6: least somebody's being honest, so I'm gonna pick that guy.

838
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 6: And not to say like me and Jed we we

839
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 6: had like chemistry set, but like he that was where

840
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 6: my mind was, so like who knows who I would

841
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 6: have been with or what would have happened with anyone

842
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 6: on that show.

843
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess we got to throw Peter in

844
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: there too, because you also had like the lingering feelings

845
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: of Peter, and we saw like you were on his

846
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: season for a second. But also in the way that

847
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: things happen with Tyler, I actually feel like you did

848
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: in a way get to sort of pick him or

849
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: experiment what life would have been like with him through

850
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: the COVID House and then through just what happened on

851
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: after the Final Rows and all that. Like you you

852
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: kind of got to vibe that, and you probably would

853
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: not have been right.

854
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think so.

855
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 6: I also I have, like great, I just have compassion

856
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 6: with that time of my life, for myself, for him,

857
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 6: for everyone involved, and you know, he obviously was going

858
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 6: through so much much too, and probably weren't the best

859
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 6: versions of ourself during that time.

860
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 4: But that just it.

861
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 6: Didn't didn't work out, And I'm like, you know, I

862
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 6: grew so much from that I learned. I think it

863
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 6: honestly like all that propelled my my healing journey to

864
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 6: be able to really.

865
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: Find find the love that I have now. So yeah, yeah, Okay.

866
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 2: My last question is, like, this is how it turned

867
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: out for you. This is the weirdest thing that your

868
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: sister in law is now the person that was dating,

869
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: Like it's is it's still really weird. They've been married

870
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: for a little bit now you your brother and her,

871
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: and it's just like is that something of the past now,

872
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: Like how did we get along?

873
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 3: I don't even know how you remember this stuff? Actually,

874
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: I like you're saying this, I'm like, what's she go?

875
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I forgot that that was even a thing.

876
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: But like also maybe it was all meant to be

877
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: because your brother should.

878
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 4: Love I mean that is how I have to have

879
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 4: to view it at this point.

880
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 6: But like also I think we all know and I

881
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 6: can say this, like we're in a much better situation now,

882
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 6: but like it was messed up, like it was. I

883
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 6: had a really hard time with it. Of like, for sure,

884
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 6: it was weird, but like they are married now and

885
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 6: she is a part of my family and honestly, like

886
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 6: they really are. They have a really great relationship and

887
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 6: she loves him very much, and I know.

888
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 4: My brother really loves her.

889
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 6: And my brother has been through so much and it's

890
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 6: been in a lot of different seasons of life that

891
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,479
Speaker 6: were not that were really hard to watch and and

892
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 6: not be able to like see him living his best life.

893
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 6: And now she's in his life, and I feel like

894
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 6: it's really cool to see where he is, so like

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00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 6: for that, even though it was really really hard and

896
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 6: there was there was time there that was really tough. Like,

897
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 6: I'm very happy for them, and yeah it's been it's

898
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 6: but it was a wild like plot twist that at

899
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 6: least it's just interesting for sure.

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00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 3: Too bad you didn't well maybe you did have it

901
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: in time for your book, that'd be a wild twist

902
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 3: in the book feels it feels like a very I

903
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: was in it.

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Speaker 6: I was in it in the book, but it was

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00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 6: not to the time. It wasn't the best like of

906
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 6: times to be. I was still very much processing it all.

907
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, good, Well, nobody that can live in your household.

908
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't need to be out there for the world

909
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 3: to read, you know, company, But like.

910
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 6: It's cool, Like I'm you know, it happened a while,

911
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 6: you know, it's they've been married for a while now.

912
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 4: But I really am.

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00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I really do admire all the work they've done

914
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 6: in their relationship and how they show up for each other.

915
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 4: It's really cool.

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Speaker 3: My final question for you before we send you off

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00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 3: back into the world to do all the great things

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00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: that you were doing is we've seen a teaser of

919
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: you on Tyler's new show. I'm curious how that even happened. Uh,

920
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: And then going back to the question of how you

921
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: process here yeses and knows how you said yes to

922
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: it and and give us a little teaser from your perspective.

923
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

924
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 6: So, wow, there's a there's a there's a lot. There

925
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 6: was a lot kind of going on at that time

926
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 6: that I was really and I still do. I love

927
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 6: interior design. Actually before I was on The Bachelor and

928
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 6: when I was in college, I was I kind of

929
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 6: decided I wanted to get into interior decorating design, but

930
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 6: I was about done with college, so I just graduated

931
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 6: and just started like apprenticing.

932
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 4: So that's what I was.

933
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 6: Doing for life change fully, and so it's always been

934
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 6: a passion of mine and I still don't like own

935
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 6: a house yet.

936
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 4: So I have really been able to like show all

937
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 4: the stuff that I can do.

938
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 6: And anyway have a lot of ideas for being able

939
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 6: to get back into that world and some capacity, but

940
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 6: he reached out to me about the show.

941
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 4: And was wondering if I would want.

942
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 6: To be a part of it, and it was great

943
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 6: to be able to. First of all, I think that

944
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 6: was a way that we were able to like really

945
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 6: just move on support each other in our own ventures,

946
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 6: but also be able to like showcase something that I'm

947
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 6: really passionate about, and he gave me the opportunity to

948
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 6: do that, so I was like, this will be fun.

949
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 6: It was great to be in Florida for a few

950
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 6: days and be able to work with the clients.

951
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 4: They were awesome and it was actually a really great

952
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 4: time I had.

953
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 6: I had a lot of fun, and it got me

954
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 6: excited to be able to continue, hopefully in.

955
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 4: The future, being able to.

956
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 6: Really get back into that passion of creating beautiful spaces

957
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 6: for people and for myself.

958
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: How did Adam feel about you being so close to him?

959
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 4: He we know where we're at in our relationship and

960
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 4: like I that season of life, like I feel.

961
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 6: Really like it's over, and obviously, like I don't, we weren't.

962
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 6: We weren't engaged yet, but like I knew obviously like

963
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 6: we and decided like we were gonna We're in it together,

964
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 6: this is this is my life partner, and so he

965
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 6: trust me, was excited for me to be able to

966
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 6: have this opportunity to kind of do a path a

967
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 6: passion of mine.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, so he's cool, he's supportive of me. But yeah,

969
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 4: I mean I think I answered that.

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00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: Well, this was we could talk to you, honestly for

971
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: at least another hour about everything going on in your life,

972
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: and like, you're just such an interesting and self aware person,

973
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: so it's always fun to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Hannah Brown's book Mistakes We Never Made coming out May seventh.

975
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: Make sure you go check it out. It's gonna be

976
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: an incredible picture of who Hannah is creativity wise, and

977
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 3: also it sounds like we're gonna get a better perspective

978
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Speaker 3: of who Hannah is a person in all of her

979
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Speaker 3: many facets. Hannah, thanks for join us, Thanks for coming

980
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Speaker 3: on this famous podcast. Keep up the great work, keep

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Speaker 3: showing up. We enjoy Thank you.

982
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 4: I really appreciate it. You all are so fun to

983
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: talk to.

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