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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this episode number three fifty two,

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Speaker 1: and today in the show, the Nine Fingered Wonder and

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Speaker 1: I are doing some social distance socializing, simply kicking back

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Speaker 1: and catching up, telling hunting, fishing, and foraging stories, and

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Speaker 1: maybe even chatting with a surprise special guest. All right,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of the Wired to Hunt podcast,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by on x UM. I feel well.

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Speaker 1: Before I talk about how I feel, I got Dan

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Speaker 1: Dan Johnson on the other side. I'm glad you can

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Speaker 1: be here. Dan. I need I need some Dan Johnson

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Speaker 1: in my life today. Well that's good. Why why do

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Speaker 1: you need me in your life? Because I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm in a rut? Oh or just this just this

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Speaker 1: endless cycle of the same monotonous thing. And this is

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Speaker 1: this is probably not unique to me right now, I

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Speaker 1: gotta believe that a lot of people are kind of

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Speaker 1: feeling the same way. Are you feeling this at all?

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Speaker 1: A little bit but not too terribly bad. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I still get to go outside a lot. I've been

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Speaker 1: mushroom hunting, I've been doing a little turkey hunting, and

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Speaker 1: uh so that kind of throws a break up into everything.

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Speaker 1: And um, I can't say that that's been the same

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Speaker 1: feeling for me. So that's kind of good. That is good.

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Speaker 1: And I've been doing the same things you've been doing.

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Speaker 1: I have been much from hunting and turkey hunting and

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Speaker 1: getting outside still some. But I don't know. It's it's

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Speaker 1: like a very it's a very domesticated set of of things.

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Speaker 1: Maybe or maybe it's just because uh kid life mixed

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Speaker 1: with quarantine life has produced like a dampening effect on

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Speaker 1: the excitement how to get out of some of these things,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Um, but it's definitely like I just

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Speaker 1: had this feeling. Ah, I describe it just kind of

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Speaker 1: this latent like wanderlust, like I just need to get

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Speaker 1: out needed, just like I need that other And right now,

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Speaker 1: it's just get up, do the routine, feed the kids,

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Speaker 1: you clean the house, put the kids to bed. Then

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Speaker 1: you're so tired. You finished off the last bit of

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Speaker 1: work and then you pass out. Um and because of

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Speaker 1: all this weird stuff going on. There's not like that

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Speaker 1: thing necessarily the big thing to look forward to as

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Speaker 1: much or I don't know, that's just that's just the

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Speaker 1: weird place that that I find myself. I can't complain

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Speaker 1: agree with you when it's time to like, for me,

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Speaker 1: it's time to start moving around. And I don't just

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Speaker 1: mean driving a mile into the country to go look

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Speaker 1: I need to make a move. So, uh today, actually

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Speaker 1: me and my wife rented a cabin up in Northeast Iowa,

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Speaker 1: in a different place. Very cool. Yeah, that's the kind

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Speaker 1: have not been under the same things, but we've been

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Speaker 1: People are just being discouraged to do that. They don't

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Speaker 1: It's just so weird how normal things now feel so strange,

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Speaker 1: a like a movie. It's just so weird seeing just

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Speaker 1: Do we not need to worry abouts? Or worry about

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Speaker 1: You know, we're we're pretty good at bullshit and I, um,

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Speaker 1: That's quite quit the proactive approach. Yep. So do you

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Speaker 1: what I've been doing for that. No, I'd rather just

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Speaker 1: let's table that one until No. Yes, tell me, tell me,

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Speaker 1: tell me more. So as you know. UM, I think

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Speaker 1: But I'm thinking that my plan is I turned forty

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Speaker 1: a have you ever heard of go hunt? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: two years ago would not have been high on my list,

425
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: But right now that sounds like a hell of a

426
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: good time for this weekend. It's so much fun because

427
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: because Everett is getting such a blast out of it,

428
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: or just walking around and picking up turkey feathers doesn't

429
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: sound a whole lot of fun, but right now, ever

430
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: would geek out or he literally, he's his new thing.

431
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: Last week. He's so into turkeys right now. I took

432
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: out my turkey decoys and put him out in the

433
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: yard and then had him come walk out, and he

434
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: just freaked out when I saw the turkeys all over,

435
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: and then when he realized he could carry them around,

436
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: then it was just all done. So he wanted to

437
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: carry his turkey everywhere he went all day. He brought

438
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: the turkey to dinner, and I don't know, I probably

439
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: made a mistake and letting him bring the turkey to dinner,

440
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: but he brought the turkey decoy and put in the

441
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: chair next to him and fed the turkey decoy while

442
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: we're eating. But then when I finally had to take

443
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: it away, I was like, I'm not gonna let him

444
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: sleep with it. I didn't clean it off all that well,

445
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: so I started thinking, gosh, maybe I think maybe I

446
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: should have checked in the k nooks and cranes and

447
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: make sure there wasn't something in there because I was

448
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: sitting outside. Um, so I was like, I would better

449
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: take this away. And then when I did that, of course,

450
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: epic meltdown because I took away his turkey. Um, I'm

451
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: constantly making the mistake of giving him things that wouldn't

452
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: have and then I happen to take him away. Uh,

453
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: that's that's being a dad. But yeah, man, it's just

454
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: like going for walks in the woods are such a

455
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: huge deal right now. He gets all he wants to

456
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: do is go for a walk, Go for a walk,

457
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: go for a walking and get out there. He's got

458
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: to have his turkey calls. He's just he's like, turkey call,

459
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: Turkey call Dad, Turkey call and get him his turkey calls.

460
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: And then he just wants to walk through the fields,

461
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: clucking away on his slate call. And that's that's a

462
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: great day for him, and that's that's a great day

463
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: for me right now. So I definitely know what I'm

464
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: getting my youngest son for Christmas this year, and that

465
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: is I'm gonna go out to a gravel road. I'm

466
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: gonna get a five gallon bucket and I'm just gonna

467
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: fill it with gravel and then I'm gonna take him

468
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: to anybody of water, a creek or a river or

469
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: a lake and let him throw rocks and watch the splash.

470
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: The kid just takes a rock, he'll throw it. He'll

471
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: watch the splash and then he'll go that's what he

472
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: loves to do. And I'm just like, you know what,

473
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: I wish life was literally that simple, right, just getting

474
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: a kick out of throwing rocks. Man, it's good. I

475
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: guess those those kids are good for us in that

476
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: kind of way, right, simple things. Yeah, that was funny.

477
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: At the end of our fishing trip last week, the

478
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: same thing. I was trying to catch more fish, and

479
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: ever started going to rocks and just started throwing rocks

480
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: every time I was there's some little girl, right, there's

481
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: some fish, and then he's chuck a rocket. Yeah, so

482
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: turkeys fish. Have you been turkey hunting? I've been what

483
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 1: four four times? How's it? Good times? How was it?

484
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: First day I brought my daughter. We were out by

485
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: seven thirty in the morning, and then we drove around

486
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: and did some cool things. Uh. The next morning I

487
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: went out by myself. Uh. They were gobbling in the

488
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: trees and then the second they hit the ground they

489
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: were done. And then my wife called and says Mac

490
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: wants to come out. So I went came back into town,

491
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: picked him up. Uh, and then we just walked around

492
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: public land and I hated him. The slate call and

493
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: just said, okay, buddy, here you go try to make

494
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: some noise. And uh, you know, I didn't even bring

495
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: my boat with me. I just we just kind of

496
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: walked around. That lasted for a little bit until the

497
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: snacks were done. And then then that following weekend I

498
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: went out, Uh, same scenario, dude. They were gobbling in

499
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: the trees and then they hit the ground, go quiet.

500
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: And then the next time I didn't even hear gobble.

501
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: And the entire morning I walked around, you know, I

502
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: went on some public ground. I stopped at a couple

503
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: uh parking lots because there was guys coming out of

504
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: the timber and I was talking to them a little

505
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: bit just to see, you know, are you hearing anything.

506
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: They're like, no, man, it's been a kind of a

507
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: weird year. And whether it's low numbers or maybe the weather,

508
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's just they're going bananas like

509
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: they usually do. Has it been just cold and wet

510
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: and credited by you guys too, you know, lower temperatures

511
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: than normal, but not so low. I mean we had

512
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: one day where it snowed, right, but other than that,

513
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: and and tonight is supposed to be low in the twenties.

514
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: But other than that, I don't feel like it's been

515
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: a crazy cool. It hasn't been hot by any means,

516
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: but it hasn't been crazy cool. I feel like this

517
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: has been one of the just lousiest spring weather periods

518
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: we've had here in Michigan in a lot of years.

519
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: Just we've had one nice day that I was out

520
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: in shirt sleeves or short short sleeves all spring. I

521
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: can thing maybe two. Um, and it's freaking halfway through

522
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: May almost Yeah, it's killing me. I feel like I

523
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: live in Canada or Alaska or something, right, So I'm

524
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: I don't I'm gonna go out and get another shot

525
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: this this weekend? Um, I think tomorrow or yet today's

526
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: Saturday or Friday. So tomorrow morning I'm gonna try to

527
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: go out and get her done. But man, I'm not.

528
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: You know, I bought my bow tag because the shot

529
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: there's four shotgun seasons in Iowa. And I brought my

530
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: bow tag because I didn't know when I was going

531
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: to be able to get out, so I might as

532
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: well use a weapon that I can hunt more days. Right,

533
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: So I brought my bought my bow tag, and you know,

534
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: obviously I would have changed, you know, it would it

535
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: kind of limits me from going crazy running gun style

536
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: like I would if I had a shotgun. But um,

537
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: they just they didn't come to the decoys. They're they're quiet,

538
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: and then I don't know, I made the decision instead

539
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: of going after them, to just kind of go back

540
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: home and do other things. Have you done? Have you

541
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: bow hunted for turkeys other years? There's a usually shotgun

542
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: mo us to the time, a shotgun only because we

543
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: have our turkey camp every year and we do it

544
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: the second season in Iowa and it's a four or

545
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: five day it's a five day window, so we do

546
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: it because you know, it allows us to be more mobile. Yeah,

547
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: definitely helps, that's for sure. Yeah. So I don't know

548
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: how about you? What have you even been out? So

549
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: I went from my first hunt today actually, so today

550
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: was the first real hunt I have gotten out, but

551
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: just without a weapon. Um, because what we're trying to

552
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: do is we're trying to film a turkey hunt in

553
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: the back forty um for the show, but we haven't

554
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: been able to do that because of all the regulations.

555
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: So we just were able to get clearance to do

556
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: it as long as it's socially distanced properly and just

557
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: do everything by the book. Um, we got the green light.

558
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: So we went out finally today with a gun for

559
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: the first time, and uh, you know, had one got

560
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: one strutting around gobbling a little bit. It was really windy,

561
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: so he couldn't hear much. Um. But he was on

562
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: one side of a hill and just would not come

563
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: the rest of the way, so he probably got him

564
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: within fifty sixty yards but could never could never see him. Yeah,

565
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: I could see him, um, But basically the only thing

566
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: I could do was work out into a wide open field.

567
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: I had a property line on one side of me.

568
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: The woods was the property line. Field was out to

569
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: They saw myself as open field and I was just

570
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: kind of stuck. Um, so we gave a shot. I

571
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: kept on trying to belly for all closer and closer

572
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: and shut up for a long time, and then gave

573
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: it to him real hard and different types of things

574
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: like that. And at one point he came like at

575
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: one point I thought it was gonna happen, like he

576
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: shut up, there's nothing, and then I kept peeking over

577
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: and then he was couldn't see anything, and there was

578
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: his back and he was slowly his head was down.

579
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: He was pecking and walking towards us, and uh, all right,

580
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: this is happening. I got set up and then he

581
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: was gone. He disappeared. So either he saw me when

582
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: I was peeking at him and I didn't realize it,

583
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: or he had just finally got bored and hopped into

584
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: the timber next to us and disappeared. I don't know,

585
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: but but you know, it's funny. I've had a bunch

586
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: of action when I wasn't trying to shoot him. I

587
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: had I've gotten a number of turkeys within range when

588
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't actually hunting. So that's how it goes. Um,

589
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: you're right there, chief. Oh yeah, I'm sorry. I thought

590
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: I shut my volume off. No, you're good. It's funny.

591
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: It's funny Spencer. I did a podcast with Spencer a

592
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and he had a frog in his

593
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 1: throat the whole time, and so he coughed a lot

594
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: during the episode. But he tried to do what you

595
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: just tried to do, So he tried to shut off

596
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: his mic every time he had a cough, but it

597
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: was happening in the middle of him talking, so he

598
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: would be in the middle of a sentence and then

599
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: he would just stop talking, and then I would think

600
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: he is freight he thought he ended his phrase. So

601
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: I would start talking as if, like, you know, to

602
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: jump in on the conversation, like ask him another question,

603
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: and then he would un mute and big oh no, no no, sorry.

604
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: I just had to cough, and then he tried to

605
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: get back into him. And so throughout the whole rest

606
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: of the conversation that was going on, and I never knew, like,

607
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: am I supposed to talk now or is he just coughing?

608
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: And it was the most awkward thing because of that.

609
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: Throughout the whole thing, we were either talking over each

610
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: other or both of us not talking because we were

611
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: waiting for the other person. It was fun. I think

612
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: I was talking about the turkeys. I called in eight

613
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: jakes that came walking. I was like on the ground

614
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: at eight Jakes walked within like four ft in me.

615
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: That was really cool. Um called in one goaler I

616
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: could have shot that same day, I had another one

617
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: come in that was probably right in the edge of

618
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: my range if I wanted to shoot. So there's been

619
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: a lot of gobbling. I've been getting out a lot

620
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: of mornings and other days I've gone out with Everett

621
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: late morning, just take him out there and we would

622
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: just try to call one in just to have him

623
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: hear some gobbling and he loves that. Had birds coming

624
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 1: in and every time they see him moving around and spook.

625
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: So that's been something we have to address once he

626
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: actually starts hunting. Um, but I've been hearing a lot

627
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: of goblin. I go on these, you know, my morning runs,

628
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,959
Speaker 1: and here in tons of them gobblin on the roosts,

629
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: of course, so no storage of hearing them. But like

630
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: you said, hearing I'm shooting was a two different things. Yeah,

631
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: are you do you get frustrated when it comes to turkey?

632
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean the same amount of frustration as white tails.

633
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: Oh no, wait different, It's so much lower stakes. I feel.

634
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, you know, it's fun. We gave a shot,

635
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: didn't come together. Oh well we'll try again another time. Um,

636
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: it's the same way with me. I'm just like I'm

637
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: gonna go home. Yeah. Yeah. Today it was like we

638
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: hunted until I don't know, ten thirty or eleven, and

639
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: I thought we could keep hunting, but let's let's just

640
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: go back. I'll see the kids, help them with lunch,

641
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: get back to work, do some things, and there's something

642
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: nice about that. Just that's different sense of And I

643
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: know we've talked about this in the past. It's nice

644
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: to have that different feel because white Tail, at least

645
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: for me and I think for you most of the

646
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: time too, it's it's so intense. We're really trying to

647
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: be so buttoned up in our approach and what we're doing.

648
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: That then when it comes to turkeys, you can relax

649
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: a little bout the bummer. And I hate to go

650
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: back to this, but the bummers that usually turkey hunting

651
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: so much fun because the social aspect too, all right,

652
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: going on with buddies, turkey camp. We we have a

653
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: turkey camp here usually in the spring and my local

654
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: buddies and stuff will get together, and all that had

655
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: to be canceled and just not the same, not the same.

656
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: So is there a law because you mentioned something about filming,

657
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: like it is like social distancing, right, is you're a

658
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: guy walking around with a ruler saying, oh, you're not

659
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: six ft apart now I gotta right you fine, Like

660
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 1: you mentioned something about having to film and making sure

661
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: that you could do it. And get approval for it

662
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: or whatever you said. And now because you can, now

663
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: you can film, right, So I don't know. We just

664
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: had to make sure we're all buttoned up as far

665
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: as the guidelines. And you know, in Michigan's all, you know,

666
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: non essential workers are supposed to be going and doing things.

667
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: Non essential travel is it's supposed to happen. Hunting is okay. Um,

668
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: certain applications are okay. But the question was can we

669
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: film doing some of these things? So we had to

670
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: go through a bunch of legal not legal but you know,

671
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: just make sure we're doing it by the book, checking

672
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: off with the authorities, just to make sure that we're

673
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: doing the way we're since we're doing it. Yeah, so

674
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, New World, New World were living.

675
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: But you went out mushroom hunting too, right, Yeah, trying

676
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: to do some mushroom hunting. Um, I don't know what

677
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I've never really taken mushroom hunting seriously, but

678
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: this year I'm trying to. So last weekend I didn't.

679
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: I went and walked around a bunch and hit some

680
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: spots that thought looked good under dead trees and everything,

681
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: and found nothing. So went out again. It looked just

682
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: a little bit last night and found one, and then

683
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: did some more looking today and found none. So I

684
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: don't know if it's still too early here because the

685
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: cold weather or what, but I'm I'm striking out pretty

686
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: bad so far. Yeah. You you seem to do well. Yeah,

687
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean I went out and I found enough for

688
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: the whole family to eat off a batch. I think

689
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: I found fifteen of them, twenty of them, which you know,

690
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: cut them in half and now you double that for

691
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: a little appetizer or part of your meal. So we

692
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: had steaks and we had no we had we had

693
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: grilled chicken and fried mushrooms. And then I went out

694
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: yesterday and found three. So I don't know. I'm I

695
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: don't do it. Like there are people out on this

696
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: public land where I've watched a guy have a YETI

697
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: cooler full of mushrooms, like this is this must be

698
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,959
Speaker 1: what this guy does, and he has he has all

699
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: the places picked out, he's been doing it for years.

700
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: I remember walking up to him one time and I

701
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: just like, hey, man, um uh, mushrooms out yet And

702
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: he's like like he looked at me kind of funny,

703
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: like what are you trying to get out of me.

704
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take ship, like stay away from me.

705
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: And he's like, and I didn't notice that when I

706
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: was talking to him, and uh I, I said, uh yeah,

707
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: I got a spot over here. I found a couple.

708
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm just basically trying to talk to him.

709
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, okay, all right, yeah, yeah, like not

710
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: giving me any information, really not not really talking to me,

711
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: like he's just suspicious. So why is this guy talking

712
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: to me like? I think he felt like I was

713
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: trying to get something Anyway, I turned around to walk

714
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: back to my truck, and I look in the back

715
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: of his truck and he's got three coolers, one so

716
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: full of mushrooms that he can't even shut the lid

717
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: on it. And yeah, and then there's two other ones

718
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: in there. So I didn't know if he had him

719
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: full or not. But this dude was slaying the mushrooms

720
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: and uh he I don't know. I mean, that's a

721
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: lot of mushrooms. I'm sure he was selling them, you know,

722
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: selling some of them, because I got a dude couldn't

723
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: eat that many mushrooms. You probably packed in a pretty

724
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: nice hall of cash. After that. Yeah, but I think

725
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: a morele mushroom you can get twenty two dollars a pound. Yeah,

726
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: as I understand it. You know, there is based off

727
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: demand at the time and supply or whatever. But yeah,

728
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: it sounds like you can do pretty good if it's

729
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: the right time of year or whatever. What if what

730
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: were the spots even finding them so far this year?

731
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: So coming off egg fields? Um, you know, like if

732
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: if a low spot continues into an egg field and

733
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: then it hits the timber line, and then that low

734
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: spot continues into the timber line, the soil is always

735
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: more moist in there, and it always seems to be

736
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: thicker because uh, fertilize, you're drained off. And you know,

737
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: obviously the first ten yards of any field edge is

738
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: gonna be thicker regardless, you know, just because of you know,

739
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: the sun hitting that field edge. So you know it's

740
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: gonna be thick in there. So and and what makes

741
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: this specific spot so good is not only doesn't have

742
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: that that moisture content in the soil, but it also

743
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: has like five gigantic trees that are in the process

744
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: of dying, and and they're big, old, and a lot

745
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: of the branches have fallen off of them, So it's

746
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: just like it's a wreck on the floor, and that's

747
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: where they're you know, the pheasant backs are growing in there,

748
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: the morales are growing in there, and that's where I

749
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: find them. Yeah, I saw you cooking up some pheasant

750
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: backs the other day, and yeah, I had just seen

751
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: a couple of those in the woods when I was

752
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: looking for morrel's And I thought to myself, is that

753
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: one of these peasant backs? And I wasn't sure, um,

754
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: and then I saw your Instagram story. Those tastes pretty good. Yeah,

755
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: So the bigger they are, the tougher they get. So

756
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: what I do is, if if you make a if

757
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: you make a circle with yours, let's just say your

758
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: middle finger and your thumb, that size of the mushroom

759
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: maybe the size of a baseball. Let's just say the

760
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: size of the baseball. Are the best you cut the

761
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: stems off and then you gotta it gets from the

762
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: it's a shelf mushroom, right, so from the tip all

763
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: the way to the back, and then maybe like one

764
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: third of the way back, you cut that off to

765
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: where it connects to the stem. So then you basically

766
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: have this c shape or a half circle shape, and

767
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: that is what I cube up and eat because if

768
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: you the further back from the edge you get, the

769
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: tougher it gets. But if you if you ride that

770
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: first third. If I'm making sense here, I think that

771
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: the first two thirds from the tip in, then that's

772
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: when they're chewy and you cook them and they're good. Man.

773
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: I I I chopped mine up with some onions and

774
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, sautata saltata with onions and pheasant

775
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: backs and UM made an omelet out of it. That's

776
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: that's my go too. With those things. They have to

777
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: tell you what if you do it right, would even

778
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: be good with like butter and garlic pasta, It would

779
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: be good with um if you had enough of them,

780
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: maybe put them on a hamburger with you know, some

781
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: kind of cheese or something I don't know, maybe not cheese,

782
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: but like some type of chutney. If that makes sense,

783
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: you could make us. I think it would be really good. Yeah.

784
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: I need to, um, I need to go and try

785
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: to see if those are still out and if they're

786
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: decent size or not the ones that I saw the

787
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: other day. Because yeah, because now that I know what

788
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: they are, I'm intrigued. Yeah, I tell you one one

789
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: thing that I've really been interested in lately, not necessarily

790
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: just mushrooms, but other plants and animals that you can

791
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: eat in the forest. Such, it's like what, oh like

792
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: different different plants, dandelions or the first thing that come

793
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: to mind. Right, you can eat dandelion leaves like let

794
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: us I mean the ship they sell them in the store, right,

795
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: but you can go out and get them online. There's

796
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: certain types of parsnip that you can eat. So it's

797
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: just it's something to do, you know, Like I love

798
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: shed hunting, I love mushroom hunting, and what are those

799
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: two things have in common? You're looking for something, right,

800
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: So I want to look for other food sources and

801
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: you know in the woods. Yeah, I feel like right

802
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: now there's a lot of people thinking the same thing.

803
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I thought to take up mushroom

804
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 1: hunting the spring, because I need something to do and

805
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: finding food out there. I mean, like you just said,

806
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: it's a natural next step. It's funny you bring that

807
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: up though, because I saw someone I can't remember who

808
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: it was, someone I know on Facebook had gone and

809
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: found a bunch of dandylions and deep fried them. Have

810
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: you ever seen that? H so literally, it was like

811
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: taking a mushroom, putting it in batter and dropping the fryer,

812
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: except for he did that with dandylions, like the yellow

813
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: part of the flower, the flower dandylion flower dipped in breading,

814
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: dropped into a fryer, and then plucked out. I had

815
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: no idea what that tastes like, uh, but it was.

816
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: It seemed kind of bizarre to me. Did that person

817
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: say it was good? You know? I don't. I don't.

818
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't remember tell you the truth. I'm trying to

819
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: think about, like what the caption was. I don't even

820
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: know if I read the caption. I think I was

821
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: just so taken back by the picture and like, really

822
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: they did that that? Uh, I don't even know. I

823
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: guess I should go back and try to find that

824
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: and see. Yeah, I don't know. I uh, it would

825
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: be funny if the caption was, just like I wonder

826
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: if any suckers try this, well, you know, in states

827
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: like ours, Michigan and Iowa, you up anything in the

828
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: deep fryar. It's good to go brown like brown food,

829
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: right right. I've heard that's the Midwest. You know, you

830
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: asked me the other day. I think it was what

831
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: Michigan's food like special food tradition is, and I think

832
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: it's probably probably that brown food just just just fried

833
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: it up anything. You know. Someone reached out to me

834
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: and said that smoked fish was another one that is

835
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: a Michigan food that is a good tradition, which I

836
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: that's I can agree with that. That's let smoked fish

837
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: out here is uh, let's see is Iowa see Iowa?

838
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's a whole bunch of different, uh,

839
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: I guess cultures that have come to the United States

840
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: and settled. You know, like certain parts of Wisconsin have

841
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: like a huge Polish you know community, and therefore that's

842
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: why they have a lot of smoked meats, right, like

843
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: sau sausages and stuff like that. Now, Iowa is Norwegian.

844
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Norwegian and a lot of German

845
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: in Iowa. I'm sure that's all over the place, you know,

846
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: in the United States. But you know, in the church

847
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: I grew up in, it was a huge Norwegian and

848
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: Swedish church. So the culture was so they had a

849
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: at every potluckt they would have ludifisc and that's like

850
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: pickled herring or something like that, pickled herring. No, it's

851
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: pickle herring and ludafisk are these two meals that they

852
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: always had at this And I was never brave enough

853
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: to try the the ludifisk. But I think I don't

854
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 1: think they're the same thing. But the pickled herring I tried,

855
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 1: and I did not, Like, Yeah, what does that taste like?

856
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, just like sour fish. It's been

857
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: a while, it's been a while. It's just I described

858
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: it as not being good to eat. That's all I

859
00:47:55,160 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: need to know. I'm not gonna try. Some people love it.

860
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: I know people love it like potato chips. I've never

861
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: I've not been big into the pickled meats, pickled stuff

862
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: like pickled sausages and stuff you see people like sometimes

863
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: get a gas stations. Just not so I gotta share him.

864
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: I gotta share a college story with you. So it's

865
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: like there was we'd go to this bar called SuDS

866
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: in Cedar Falls, Iowa. Is on the on the college hill. Right,

867
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: every every bigger college has an area where there's it's

868
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: just like a higher concentration of bars, right, and one

869
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: of my buddies, like he would always get he would

870
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: always drink a little bit more than he needed to

871
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: every night, and at the end of the night, we're

872
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: just like we would just convince him to eat uh

873
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: hard boiled pickled egg with hot sauce on it, and

874
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: every time he did that, he would give in, and

875
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: then every time he would put every time. Uh that

876
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: sounds disgusting. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I like, I like

877
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: my self some pickled eggs when the time is right.

878
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: But I'm I don't think I'm gonna do it after

879
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: I chug you know, sixteen beers, okay, but what when

880
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: is the time right for a pickled egg? M I'm

881
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: gonna say maybe beer number three? Okay, So it's not

882
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: the first beer, right you you wanna you want to

883
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: enjoy your first beer, not the second beer, because I don't,

884
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, maybe I'm not quite ready yet,

885
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: and I think that the third beer is like the

886
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: perfect time. It's just like, you know what, I'm feeling,

887
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: feeling good now, feeling a little relaxed. My muscles aren't

888
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: tied anymore, my my knees are bending properly. I think

889
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a pickled egg with a little hot

890
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: sauce on it, and that's maybe some salt, salt and

891
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 1: pepper on it, and then there you go. I I've

892
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: never been there. I've never I've never been to that

893
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: moment on my third beer. But I'm gonna take your

894
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 1: word for it. Which what is your beer drinking snack?

895
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: You're not eating a meal right, Maybe maybe you've had

896
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: lunch and you're hanging with the boys and it's time.

897
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: You know, you're cracking your beers. You start you know,

898
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: you're sitting around a fire, or you get back from

899
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: a hunt and you're not time to eat yet, but

900
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: you're just starting to starting to get into the beers.

901
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: What's your snack? What? What is your beer drinking snack?

902
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: It's been too long since I've had like sitting with

903
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: the boys drinking beers. Kind of time to tell you,

904
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: But I'm I think back here, I'd probably say, like

905
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: I could throw it on some like chips, Give me

906
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: some chips and dip. Uh. If there's anything that you

907
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: could dip a chip into, I will hammer that. Give

908
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: me like a buffalo chicken dip or a chili cheese dip. Uh.

909
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: You know. I'm a sucker for spinach artichoke dip too.

910
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: I'm not too that's not too fancy for me. Um yeah,

911
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: or salsa, I mean any anything. I love a dip.

912
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: I love a dip in a chip. Yeah. Yeah. I'm

913
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: a nachos guy. I like I like me some nachos.

914
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: And it depends if you consider nachos a main course.

915
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: I personally don't consider nachos a main course, but I

916
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: have friends who would debate me otherwise. This has gotta

917
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: be our most pointless rambling episode I ever done, Dan,

918
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what. What do you like nachos? Better?

919
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: Do you like? Just? Hey, I thought you said we

920
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: were socialized. We are socializing. This is this is great

921
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: for you and me. I just don't know if anyone

922
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: else is listening, doesn't matter, you know what, Hey, I'll

923
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: tell you what you gotta. You gotta just relax and

924
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: go with the flow, okay, and just shake it off.

925
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: I mean, what what what's gonna happen? Media or ink

926
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: is gonna call you in for a meeting and say,

927
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: all right, we've been reviewing your content, Mr Kenyan, and

928
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: it looks like you need to do less talking about nachos,

929
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: and we're talking about deer hunting strategy during the rut

930
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: because that's where the ratings are at. Dude, when you

931
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: see a phone call from me coming tomorrow or next week,

932
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: you'll know what happened. Right, Hey, Dany got time to

933
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: do a rut honey strategy and me, oh man, that's funny. Yeah, dude,

934
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: it's right, you're right, you're right. I need to relax.

935
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: It's okay, there's uh, there's probably plenty of other people

936
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: that just needed socialized too. So how long have you

937
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 1: how long have we been recording right now? Fifty one minutes?

938
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: One minutes. Do you think if we call further he'll answer? Uh,

939
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: he would, But I don't think I know how to

940
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: patch him in here. I mean I could put him

941
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: on speaker phone. Oh you're saying like over Skype. Yeah,

942
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: call him up and asked, just ask him what he's doing,

943
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: because that's one guy that, you know, if I had

944
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: more time in my day and I could just chat

945
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: with one person. Obviously there's a long list of people

946
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: before him, but it would it would probably I would

947
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: want to just check in with further and see what

948
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: he's doing. You know. I don't disagree with you. He's

949
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: a good guy to check in with. I don't think

950
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: he's gonna answer, but I'm I'm trying to calm right now.

951
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: We'll see if Josh is available. He's he's uh, he's

952
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: staying busy, cutie may stuff. As far as I know, um,

953
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: you know need they need their support right now, as

954
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 1: you can imagine. Um, a lot of conservation organizations are

955
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: you know, without a funding source, so kind of tough

956
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: times for a lot of folks like that. So Josh

957
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: is definitely working hard to try to help there. Um. Hello,

958
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: it's answer. Answer. It's unbelievable, oh man. But from the

959
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: shittiest podcast ever to the greatest podcast ever, Welcome to

960
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: the wire Dum Podcast. Josh oh Man. Maybe I shouldn't

961
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: have answered, Hey, you're live, buddy, You're live. You are live.

962
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: How are you doing? Yeah, I just got back from

963
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: a little walk with the family, So it's good. Good

964
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 1: gut got way out in the in the carrier and

965
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: got like a couple of miles in it's like a

966
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: modified heavy pack hike. Oh, you're doing some training, aren't you.

967
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: I'm just just trying to get myself in some quarantine shape.

968
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: That's good. Did you have you put on a quarantine

969
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: fifteen or anything that you're working off or is this

970
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: have you've been good and on your best behavior this

971
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: whole time? I'm actually like, um on the quarantine like

972
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: down fifteen. I'm finally losing all this baby weight. Whoa.

973
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: So I don't know what we're doing. Maybe I think

974
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: it's just because I'm not eating out as much on

975
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 1: the road and all that kind of stuff. So it's

976
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: called stressed buddy. Yeah, well, yeah, that's probably a big

977
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: part of it. I gained twelve pounds in the first

978
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: five or six weeks of the lockdown, and it's because

979
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: I was in charge of grocery shopping now, so literally

980
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: I would go to the grocery store and because it's

981
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: like a depressing time and there's nothing else to do,

982
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, I need something good in my life now.

983
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: So I bought chocolate cake about or I bought it

984
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: was like it was like going to deer camp. Everything

985
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: I saw that I want, I'm like, all right, I'm

986
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: buying it. I don't care I'm buying it. I'm buying

987
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: it dessert every night. Oh so hey for Dan Johnson

988
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: here whired to Hunt podcast. I want to ask you

989
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: a question when you're when you're sitting around having some

990
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: beers with the boys. What and not your children, but

991
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: like Mark and Corey and all those other guys, Um,

992
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: what is your what's your go to snack? Too much?

993
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: Not a main meal, not a main meal, but a

994
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: snack to eat while you're drinking beers. Oh well, I'm

995
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: drinking beers. I feel like I'm being set up for

996
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: something here. You're not, by the way. I don't know, dude. Um,

997
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: I feel like I've got a couple of different things.

998
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: Like if we're like this wouldn't be drinking beers. But

999
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: if we're like road tripping, Um, I know this butterfilled pretzels,

1000
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: that's the road trip snack. You know. It's like his

1001
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: wife won't let him eat those at home, Dawn, Why not?

1002
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: She says, I always eat like half of the thing

1003
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: and then just they're just sitting our pantry forever because

1004
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: I get like worn out on them, and they're just

1005
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: like they're they're good like at home, not quite the

1006
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: same like when you're on the road. Um uh man,

1007
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: just like sitting around, like hanging out like at deer

1008
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: camp or something. Like, I don't know. I mean what

1009
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of. We always just having junk

1010
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: up there, man, like orioles or jerky or anything like chips. Yeah,

1011
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: like salty like chips and salsa, that kind of stuff.

1012
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: The standard. Nothing nothing crazy. What do you think, Dan?

1013
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: Do you prove? Yeah, that's all right. I wasn't gonna

1014
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: judge him. I'm not you know, I'm not going to

1015
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: venison shame in Mark like you did me the other time.

1016
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: I feel like you've done that a few times to you. Yeah,

1017
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: you don't eat venison with every meal? Are you kidding me? Um?

1018
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: Did you ever try whatever that idea was that I was?

1019
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: It was convincing your wife to eat more venison by

1020
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: offering up the money savings for vacations. Did you try that? No,

1021
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: it won't work. It won't work. It's worth the shot. Hey,

1022
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: you know what, Dan, Josh, Josh has a turkey story

1023
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: for us. He has actually killed the turkey. I don't

1024
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: hear it better than two of we just me and

1025
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: me and Dan just talked about how we can't kill

1026
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,959
Speaker 1: a turkey. Tell us how to do it, Josh, Well,

1027
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: it's a really short story. Um, it didn't take a

1028
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: whole long time, Dan, I've been wearing out Mark that

1029
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: he hasn't had me on his uh his bonus turkey podcast.

1030
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: Yet I go out there and kill him an opening

1031
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: morning and I don't even get any love. She's got

1032
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: to bring it in all these experts or whatever. Yea

1033
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: true now, So I opening morning of Michigan season. I

1034
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: went out. It was actually like the first time I've

1035
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: ever turkey hunted alone. We're usually we're doing like a

1036
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: like a turkey camp or you know, we're getting together

1037
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: some guys and and turkey hunting together. So this is

1038
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: the first time I've ever gone out alone. And I

1039
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: get there, I get to the property, Um, you know,

1040
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm doing pretty good on time. And

1041
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 1: get out of my truck and start, um getting everything around,

1042
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: get my gun out of the case. And my door

1043
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: doesn't close like like I thought I closed my door.

1044
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: So I close a little harder. I've got I've got

1045
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: an F one fifty. It's like the aluminum frame and

1046
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, the doors like they're hard to close,

1047
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: they don't close quietly. Um, So I closed a little

1048
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: hard and boom shot gobbles like close to the house,

1049
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: close to where I'm parked. So I had an idea

1050
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: of where they were, and so I kind of did

1051
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: this big loop around see something. And for some reason,

1052
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: I just feel like that part is exaggerated. I just

1053
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: I just had this vision in my head that instead

1054
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: Josh opened the truck door, got out and just slams

1055
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: the door shut and it sucks like holing. And and

1056
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: then my uncle used to do that. My uncle used

1057
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: to be My uncle used to pull into a parking

1058
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: spot at public ground. We'd get out real quiet, and

1059
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: he would slam the door as hard as you could,

1060
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: and that is what would trigger shot gobble. So I

1061
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: believe you it's it's almost not a bad idea, you know.

1062
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: And and honestly, like I was a part like a

1063
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: park at the house, um of his property. Um, And

1064
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: so I think they're these birds, they just haven't been hunted.

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00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: I don't know when the last time this place has

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00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: been turkey hunted, to be honest. So you know, I

1067
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: had seen some birds like fly up into trees and

1068
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: roost near the house, and I was deer hunting, so

1069
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: I kind of had an idea of where I wanted

1070
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: to go. Um. I was just really surprised they're right there.

1071
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: So they're they're like right there. So I do this

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00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: little loop around. I sit down by tree, and I've

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01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: got birds and like all directions just going off on

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01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: the roost. I mean, they were just gobbling their heads off. Um.

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01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 1: And it was cold, man, It's like there's still snow

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01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: on the ground um up here. So um, I just

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01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: did like a couple like real light little calling sequences,

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01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: just let them know, hey, there's maybe a hen in

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01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: the area. And there's two times in this tree. And man,

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01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: they flew down a little bit after daylight, and one

1081
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: of them kind of stayed up on this little ridge

1082
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: and he was he was strutting around, putting on a show.

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01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: And this other one just came running right in and

1084
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: I just shot him at like thirty yards and dropped him.

1085
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: And that was the end of my turkey season lasted

1086
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: all about thirty minutes. Um, and I had pulled the trigger.

1087
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: So I'm going down. It's like pumped, and I was like, man,

1088
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: now I've got a month and a half of quarantine,

1089
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: but no more turkey tags. It's kind of like, oh man,

1090
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: what did I do? But now I was really pumped

1091
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: to get one, and uh, definitely like a little bit

1092
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: of a confidence booster. Even even if I didn't do,

1093
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: uh have to do a ton for it, I felt

1094
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: like at least did something right to put myself in

1095
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: the in the right spot. So, hey, yeah, you eadiot.

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01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: Uh not yet, Nope, we just had that. We just

1097
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: had a new recipe put up over on the Mediator website, Danielle.

1098
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: I think it was put together a Chick fil A

1099
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: kind of replica recipe for turkey nuggets that looks very good.

1100
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,959
Speaker 1: I saw that. I think that one's on our list

1101
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: to try. Yeah. Uh, it's hard to beat turkey nuggets,

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01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: one in one former fashion or another. I that's just

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01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: good old fashioned eating. Yepnood yep. Yeah, right back to that,

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01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: daniel Right. Um. So, I have a couple listener questions

1105
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: that I did want to try to get to, and

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01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: now you're here, Josh, it's particularly relevant. I think you're

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01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: willing to stick on answer a couple of these. Sure,

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01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: i'll do. My best term is were you in your

1109
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: office working or was in the middle hanging out with

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01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: your wife? No, I was in my office. I was

1111
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: in my office trying to get some work done, and

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01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I don't know if he's meaning

1113
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: to call me, but I'll see what he's doing. It's amazing.

1114
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: It's the best luck I've had all year. But this

1115
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: might be a segment. I know, we really should call

1116
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: it calling further for the last quarter. Okay. So, so

1117
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: Brock sent me a couple of questions here. He says

1118
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: he's twenty eight and looking for a mentor for big

1119
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: game hunting and conservation. He's really into this stuff, but

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01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: getting into it newly into it. Um, it's curious. First

1121
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: first of three questions one, any suggestions for finding some

1122
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: kind of mentorship. Number two, he's really interested and excited

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01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: about public lands, wants to support them. He's been trying

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01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: to get involved with TRCP and b h A, but

1125
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: he'd like to know how he can get more involved.

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01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: And then question number three, he's curious about how we

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01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: molded our careers as outdoorsmen and conservationists. How have we

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01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: gotten a job within this sector? Um? So all three

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01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: of us work within the outdoor world. We all, in

1130
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: one former fashion, do some stuff with conservation and mentorship.

1131
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,919
Speaker 1: But Josh, what would use what about question number one

1132
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: when it comes to mentorship? Yeah? Sure, I mean really,

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01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: my suggestion would be just to you know, connect with

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01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: any of the local conservation groups in your area, whether

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01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: it be Q D m A or b h A

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01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: or Pheasants Forever, Rocky Mountain ol Foundation. I mean, whoever

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01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: it is. You know, they may not have a specific

1138
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: program going on in your area, but I'm sure they've

1139
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: got people who are seasoned hunters and willing to take

1140
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: somebody new out. And you know you could. You're probably

1141
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: within a stone's throw of our ranch or a chapter

1142
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: wherever you are in the country of one of those groups.

1143
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: And um, I would say you have a pretty good

1144
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: luck of finding someone that be willing to take you

1145
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: out or show you, um some things or whatever, um

1146
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: from from one of those groups. Yeah. I feel like

1147
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: that's like the single best way these days, even just

1148
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: if you want to meet some like minded like hunting

1149
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: fishing buddies, if you move to a new place or

1150
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: something like That's gonna be my new go to move

1151
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: is just tap into whatever the local conservation ore is, chapter, branch, whatever,

1152
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: and and yeah, especially like b h A QT may

1153
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: where they have all these local events going on. Um,

1154
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: it's such an easy way to get connected. And then

1155
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: you've got new friends, you've got new mentors, you've got

1156
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: new ideas and opportunities and all those All those organizations

1157
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: have like a website where typically can just go to

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01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: their main like national website and do like find a

1159
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: branch or a chapter and you can pretty much, you know,

1160
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: filter down to your s an area and where things

1161
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: are at, find them on Facebook, on the local groups

1162
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: on Facebook. I mean, there's all all kinds of different

1163
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: ways and connect locally with people. Okay, So speaking on

1164
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: these same things, and let's go to the next one,

1165
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: which is how can I he specifically talked about public lands,

1166
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: but let's uh, let's expand it from public lands just

1167
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: to overall conservation stuff in general. Uh. Given all of

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01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: your experience managing things for q D, may any other

1169
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: advice other than just connecting with these groups to get

1170
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: involved to do more. Um. I don't know what do

1171
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: you see as some of those areas of weakness that

1172
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: you guys need more help with it that b h

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01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: A needs more help with Because I don't know if

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01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: you knew this, Dan, But not only is Josh the

1175
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: qum A regional director, he's also on the board for

1176
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: Michigan's b h A organization as well, right, Josh H

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01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: multifaceted help out some of the hunt of recruitment stuff

1178
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: on the board and whatnot. So UM, yeah, I mean

1179
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: I think the big thing is just a lot of

1180
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: people don't know, um what's going on or how to

1181
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: get involved. So one of the things I would how

1182
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: would suggest that if you're not a member of those

1183
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: groups that you um are interested in definitely becoming a member,

1184
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: get on their email lists. UM. You know, all these

1185
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: groups send out uh like the blasts or email notifications

1186
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: of different events or volunteer opportunities that are happening um

1187
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: in the in your area. UM. They can all filter

1188
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: down and and target specific areas where you know things

1189
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: are happening. So make sure you join join their email list.

1190
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: That's the best way to stay up to date m

1191
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: on what they've got going on, follow the local Facebook

1192
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: pages or whatnot, and UM that would be my suggestion

1193
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: on how to make sure you're keeping track of what's

1194
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: going on, Dan, Do you have any thoughts on those? Yeah?

1195
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: Other than I think my only insight would be to

1196
01:06:56,080 --> 01:07:01,439
Speaker 1: contact your local UH County Conservation Board. And these guys

1197
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: are working on projects all the time, and they're looking

1198
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: for volunteers all the time, and depending on if you

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01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: what you're looking to provide, If you're looking to volunteer,

1200
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: you're looking to provide um, you know, money, They're like, hey,

1201
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: I got some money. I want to help, you know

1202
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: with a project or whatever. Hey, I'm recording your podcast. Guys,

1203
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: get out of here. Get out of here. Shut the

1204
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: door all the way. Sorry, best podcast ever, continuing past

1205
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: down the toilet. You're not even recording, are you? No?

1206
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: This is never this is never going to air man.

1207
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: You stopped recording as soon as I answered the phone. Yeah,

1208
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: uh so, yeah, yeah, it just it depends on what

1209
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: you what you're wanting to do, if you want to

1210
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: give money or if you want to volunteer time. Um,

1211
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: you know, I would start at you know, at a

1212
01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: at a hyper local level with your county conservation board

1213
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: because they're always looking for people to help do what,

1214
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, do the projects. Um. Specifically in the county

1215
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: that I live in. Recently, they drained the lake and

1216
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: they had to do some work on it, right, so

1217
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: as they're filling it up, they were looking for volunteers

1218
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: to help plant underwater vegetation, so getting the mud and

1219
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, and plant these plants, and then as the

1220
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: water fills back up into this lake, then the plants

1221
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: start to grow. So there projects are looking for volunteers

1222
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: all the time. That's a great it's a great point.

1223
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: And those are probably the types of organizations, local, very

1224
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: local county kind of things that had a little bit

1225
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: harder time probably railing people to come help on some

1226
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Absolutely. Um. You know. The only thing

1227
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: I would add on top of that, just unique to

1228
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: right now is I've seen a lot of organizations like

1229
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: Kutie May and others who usually have these in person

1230
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: in banquets or pint nights or whatever that they depend

1231
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: on for funding. They can't do those right now, so

1232
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: they're trying to do virtual things, virtual giveaways, virtual you know,

1233
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: fundraisers more than usual, and um, and they're pretty dependent

1234
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 1: on trying to raise some money right now to try

1235
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,799
Speaker 1: to keep people employed, try to keep the thing going.

1236
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: So I would just echo same thing that I know

1237
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: all of us have been talking about. UM, if you

1238
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: have a little extra money, usually it's always like, hey,

1239
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: money is great, but don'tate time, um, because that's usually

1240
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: in less supply. But I think right now a lot

1241
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: of organizations. Organizations really do need money. So if you

1242
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: happen to have an extra dollar two. I know it's

1243
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: tight for for everyone right now in different ways, but

1244
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: if you can swing a little extra, I know, I'm

1245
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: sure folks like you guys at QT may would leve

1246
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,799
Speaker 1: a little participation in those online giveaways, raffles or whatever.

1247
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: Right Yeah, Oh for sure, Yeah, I mean, I mean, um,

1248
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: you know, nonprofit groups they're always running at you know,

1249
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: lean lean levels, and and you know, what's going on

1250
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: right now has definitely had a had a big impact

1251
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: on how we're able to you know, operate even just

1252
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: on a daily basis with different in person events and

1253
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: and like you said, there's not a whole lot of

1254
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: opportunities to be out there doing things right now, are

1255
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, gathering? Um so yeah, definitely right now. I mean,

1256
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: if you've got a couple of bucks to spare or

1257
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: even just join as a member, it's um it means

1258
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,560
Speaker 1: a lot right now. Yeah, all right. What about the

1259
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: last part of that question, getting a career within the

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01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: outdoor world. Um, I know we've had conversations like this

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01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 1: in the past, we've covered it, but is there anything new,

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01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: Dan or josh I don't think I've ever gotten your perspective, Josh,

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01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: Um I get this. I'm sure you guys all get

1264
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: it to everyone, tons and tons of questions about how

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01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: do you get a job in the outdoor industry, how

1266
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: do you get involved in his career? Any new thoughts

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01:10:54,320 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: or different thoughts on that, um Dan, maybe that you know, Uh,

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01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 1: I get asked all the time, and I'm sure you

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01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: do too, Mark. You know, dude, I would love to

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01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: do what you do. I would love to work in

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01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: the hunting industry or whatever. This is if if you

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01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: want consistent paychecks and if you want to have a

1273
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: secure income, this is not what you want to do.

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01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: It's because, I mean, straight up, it's uh there there's

1275
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: times where it's struck. You know, you struggle, right, I

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01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 1: mean I this is a perfect example. You know, a

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01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,520
Speaker 1: lot right now, A lot of these hunting industry companies

1278
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: are having to hold their money in for you know,

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01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: hold it in and uh, luckily, I you know, I'm

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01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing okay right now. But you know, if you're

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01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: just new getting into it, make sure you have another

1282
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: job first, right, and then work your way up and

1283
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And this is nothing new, but

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01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: start somewhere else, don't. You don't have to go to

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01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: content creation right away. I mean, you can do what

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01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: Josh is doing. You can do um. You know, whatever

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01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: your background is, you can start a side gig doing that,

1288
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: or you know, if you have an idea for a

1289
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: product or whatever. There's a thousand different things that you

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01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: can do. Two, get your foot in the door. Yeah,

1291
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: that's a great point. Yep, Yeah, I would echo that.

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01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean, anything you can do to network and and

1293
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: just meet as many different people as you can, um

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01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: within that space that you're looking to get into. I mean,

1295
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: I think that's key. And and do what you can

1296
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: on the side and and kind of build that resume.

1297
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 1: And maybe you know, if you're looking to do what

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01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: I like in the conservation world or whatever, I mean,

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01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: maybe you look at volunteering with some groups and that's

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01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: a great way to meet people. It's a great thing

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01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 1: to have on your resume. UM. And then you have

1302
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 1: to be willing just to take a leap and and

1303
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: you know, go outside of your comfort zone if you're

1304
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: in the you know, I was in the corporate banking world,

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01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: and you know, I was doing all right, and I

1306
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: just knew it wasn't what I wanted to do forever,

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01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: and I just had to be willing to kind of

1308
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 1: go outside of my comfort zone and take that leap

1309
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,719
Speaker 1: of faith. And man, I can't imagine doing anything different

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01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 1: at this point, you know. Yeah, it's it's a lifestyle

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01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 1: choice for sure in a lot of ways. And I'm

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01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: glad it worked out for you. I think the only

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01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: thing I would add, I would just echo something you

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: just said, Josh, and just expand on it a little bit.

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01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: I think that, um, volunteering your time is a great

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01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: way to get a foot in because this is like

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01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 1: where there's a lot of people that want to work

1318
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 1: in this world and if you can somehow offer your services,

1319
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: and you know, it's a donation of your time, your energy,

1320
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: your ideas, your artwork, your photography, whatever. Um, if you

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01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 1: can find a way to get your foot in the

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: door in that kind of way, you know. Uh, that's

1323
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: that foot in the door is so important. The networking

1324
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: and the foot in the door is is so key.

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01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: And then I think the networking is a little different

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01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: right now because in the past, you know, networking could

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01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 1: be going to these different conventions, it could be going

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01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: to various events, Uh, whatever. Now it's more virtual networking

1329
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: at least in the short term here. Um, So this

1330
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: is when you're and I I don't know if I'm

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01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: hesitant to do this to say this or not, but

1332
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: like your digital your digital presence is maybe more important

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01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: than ever. Your who you are online is kind of

1334
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: your resume in a lot of ways, and so thinking

1335
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 1: about that not as just like where you rant on

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01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: Facebook to your friends, but also realizing that might be

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01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: the one way that you're able to connect with someone

1338
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 1: in the outdoor industry right now, or the one way

1339
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: you can build a connection with someone is through what

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01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: you post and share on Instagram. So I would just

1341
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: if you want to get into this world and you

1342
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: want to start connecting with other people, which I highly

1343
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: recommend you do, that's happening digitally right now. So be

1344
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: cognizant of the digital impact you have, what you're saying,

1345
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: what you're putting out there, how you present yourself, um,

1346
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: and think about it more than just like your local bar.

1347
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: I guess might be what I would say, so different,

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01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 1: different kind of angler. And at the same time, if

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01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: you do what you just said, I feel like whenever

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01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: someone new comes into the digital space, they instantly try

1351
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: to compete on a nation level, on on a national level.

1352
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: When I feel that there is a market that's untapped

1353
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: at a local level, on a super niche, on a

1354
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:39,480
Speaker 1: super niche level, to where let's say your county specific

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01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: or area specific, right, you know, maybe it's not nationwide,

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01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: but hey, maybe it's Southeast Illinois. You know, hey it's

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01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: the Southeast Illinois something or other or whatever whatever it

1358
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: is at a very hyper focused level. I think there's

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01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: there's value in that as well. And I'll tell you

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01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: up right now, I would listen to the Southeast Illinois

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01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 1: something or other podcast. Tell anyone that's a podcast, I

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01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: would click on. All right, last question and then uh,

1363
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna have to balance because I just

1364
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: got a picture of a two year old that's not

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01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: wearing pants, that was pulling up my wife's jacket while

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01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: she's on a phone call. So, uh, if you yeah, right,

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01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 1: just another day in our life. Just wait, I don't

1368
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: know it's so hard about all this mind of sleeps.

1369
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 1: Just just shut up, hang up on him, hang up done.

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01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,759
Speaker 1: If if you had twenty bucks, in just twenty bucks

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01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: to buy a gift right now for our listeners. So

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01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: you got twenty bucks per listener, you can buy one

1373
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: thing and we're gonna give it to everybody. Right now,

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01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: what would you buy him, Dan, I'm gonna put you

1375
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 1: on the spot. I'm gonna buy every one of the listeners,

1376
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: and I have twenty bucks to spend. I'm gonna buy

1377
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: him a thirty pack of bush Light. They have to

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01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 1: prove their twenty one first, but as long as that's

1379
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: the case, dirty thirty Yeah, alright, So we're helping out

1380
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 1: with that digital happy hour that is that is the

1381
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: post hunt celebration. Okay, is there a pickled egg in

1382
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 1: there somewhere for him too? I think if you can find, uh,

1383
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: if you can find a thirty pack for like fifteen bucks.

1384
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: And I'm or maybe I don't even know what a

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01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: thirty pack cost, I'll be honest with you, probably close

1386
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 1: to twenty bucks, maybe bucks, I don't know. Maybe it's

1387
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: on discount. Maybe maybe I'm only getting him a case

1388
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: of beer. But with the leftover money, I'm sure there's

1389
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: a packet of pickled eggs you can buy as well.

1390
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 1: All right, that's a great gift for right now. Further,

1391
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: what are you buying with your twenty bucks. That that's

1392
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: a tough one. That's a tough question. Um, if you

1393
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: can get an acorn crunch for twenty bucks, No, there's

1394
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 1: because they're not I don't think they're in production anymore.

1395
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: They're collector's items. I bet you like a hundred bucks

1396
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: of pop. Yeah, man, man oh man, um uh, this

1397
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 1: is you probably have a little left over. But if

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01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 1: I could buy one thing for everybody right now, I'd

1399
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:20,440
Speaker 1: buy them that Wild Country. I'm good, some good reading material?

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01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? For? Are you how? How deep

1401
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: is your nose? I'm just looking at that bookshelf here

1402
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: and pop right up? But you gotta get it for

1403
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: the back cover model. That's that's really where the that's

1404
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: where it's at. Did you know that Dan josh is

1405
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: that he is on the back cover? Congrat buddy. Yeah,

1406
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Man. That's a that's a that's a really

1407
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: hard question. Twenty dollars. I feel like you can get

1408
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 1: a lot with twenty dollars, but you can't get a

1409
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 1: lot with twenty dollars. Yeah, you know, I don't know

1410
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: what I would say. I was going to say a

1411
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: book too, but now I feel like a book suggestion

1412
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: would be a cheap uh answer, given the fact that

1413
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: you plugged mind so nicely. Um, but you can find

1414
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: that wild country at your local bookstore online Barnes and Noble,

1415
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 1: Amazon if you want to make in the outdoor industry

1416
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: always grinding. Uh No, you know, I would buy a

1417
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: Sand County Almanac for everybody. I can't think of anything

1418
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: but a book, but that would be the book I

1419
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 1: think i'd buy. So on that note, boys, I need

1420
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: to end our little social distancing so socialization happy hour.

1421
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: So Josh, thanks for hopping on here in PROMPTU. Thanks

1422
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: for the call. Good good to catch up, Daniel. Thank

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01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 1: you as always, be safe out there, have a good time,

1424
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 1: Good luck turkey hunting. Dan, let's do this again soon.

1425
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: Sounds good. I would talk to you guys later. All right,

1426
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us today. I know this

1427
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 1: one was kind of all over the place, but I

1428
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,799
Speaker 1: hope you've got a couple of laughs. Hope you enjoyed

1429
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 1: this kind of bra from normal. I know that I

1430
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: needed this. Hopefully you did too. Hopefully you can do

1431
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 1: something similar with friends of your own. And until next time,

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01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 1: I hope you'll stay wired to hunt