1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: And we're back all off season long. We're gonna give 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: your free agency, NFL Draft, and everything else that's going 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: on in this incredible NFL off season. Stick with us. 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Be here, hit that sub button if you're new, and 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: also notification game so you can be notified when everything's 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: going down. 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: Appreciate you. 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Rich Sherman Podcast and another eventful 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: week in the off season. Jackson Smith and Jigba becomes 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: the highest paid receiver in the National Football League's illustrious 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: history at forty two point one five million dollars per year. 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: The Seahawks did a great job getting this deal done 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: early enough that it only looks like thirty two million 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: dollars a year if you do it over the lifetime 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: of the deal, which is an absolute bargain for a 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: receiver that just won Offensive Player of the Year is 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: only trending up, only going to continue to grow rapport 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: and relationship with Sam Darnold and continue to thrive. I 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: think this is this this receiving court and now it's 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: a well paid receiving court mental. But with Jackson Smith 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: and Jigbab forty two point one point five million a year, 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: you got Shaheed at seventeen a year. You got Cooper 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: Cup at fifteen million dollars a year, and then you 24 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: they matched Bobo's deal to bring him back. 25 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to produce. That's that's for sure. 26 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: Now, you know it's it's it's always nice when uh, 27 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: you win and you do crazy things and you do 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: great things, and the expectations aren't there that there's not 29 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: a huge burden of expectation. But when you when you 30 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: get paid, when you get paid like Shaheed and like 31 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and like Jackson just got paid, now the 32 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: expectations and the criticisms that come with those expectations start 33 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: to ramp up. But I think they're ready for it. 34 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: I think they're they're pois to have another fantastic year. 35 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: They're not gonna surprise anybody this year. I'm not gonna 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: have to go to training camp and come back and 37 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: get on this podcast and say, hey, Mitchell, they look great, 38 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: because everybody knows what they look like. They just won 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. H this is a great deal for 40 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: the team. I think this this helps them long term. 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do the same thing with Devin Witherspoon. Uh, 42 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't see any reason why they wouldn't get a 43 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: deal done there. But this is this is incredible, and 44 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: and Jackson seems to be ready to repeat. His energy's right, 45 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: his mindset's right, he's the right, He's built through the 46 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 1: right stuff. So I'm looking forward to to seeing them 47 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: thrive even more this season, uh with with the burden 48 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: of expectations they'll have on them after after last year. 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: You know about this same time last year, we're talking 50 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 1: about you know, them getting rid of gen O, them 51 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: trading DK Metcalf and all the things that happened that season. 52 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: If you would have told me a year later, we'd 53 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: be talking about the Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks and 54 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigbo coming off Offensive Player of the 55 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: Year season being named the highest paid player and receiver 56 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, I would have called you crazy, 57 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: just because at that point he was the number you know, 58 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: two three receiver, he was mostly used in the slot, 59 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: just hadn't shown I mean, he'd shown ability obviously in college. 60 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: He had a three hundred yard game, but he hadn't 61 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: been given the opportunity to showcase his ability in the 62 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: way that he was this year. 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Now that he's the highest 91 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: paid wide receiver in the league, what are you gonna 92 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: do next? His response was one super Bowl? What's better 93 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 3: than one super Bowl two? So Richard Seattle is obviously 94 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: getting a pro here, a pros pro. He's well worth 95 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: the money. And I know the money on its face 96 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: seems like a lot, but the money on its face 97 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: seemed like a lot a few years ago. 98 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: I remember when the. 99 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: Lions resigned onmn ross Aint Brown and gave him thirty 100 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: million dollars a year, and all of a sudden, that 101 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: became the next threshold for receivers. Now that forty million 102 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: dollar mark is that next threshold. So the receivers getting 103 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: paid after him, pooka Nakula. You know, we'll see. I 104 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: don't know the other big names. I know George Pickens 105 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 3: just got franchise. I know he won't be in that 106 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: that tier, but I would expect some of these guys 107 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 3: to be making some eye popping numbers that make fans, 108 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: you know, wonder what the heck is going on. But 109 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: that's just the nature of the beast. As the cap 110 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: space goes up, these margins go up a lot higher 111 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: for these skill positions. But ultimately you alluded to it 112 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 3: throughout our offseason talk, Richard, and we were looking at, 113 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: you know, how Seattle was positioning themselves in free agency, 114 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: and obviously they let a little bit of their depth walk. 115 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: They let Kenneth Walker walk, they let Boie Mafi walk, 116 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 3: they let Kobe Bryant walk, et cetera. You know, all 117 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: for this reason because they got to pay the big 118 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: man in the room, and that's JSN. You know, Richard, 119 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: break it down for fans so they can better understand, 120 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: you know, the financial ramifications of offloading this much cap 121 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 3: space onto a team and what it does, the trickle 122 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 3: down effect that it has on the rest of the roster. 123 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: You know, some say it kills the middle class in 124 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: the National Football League, but I think John Snyder's doing 125 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: an incredible job. He did an incredible job of getting 126 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: this deal done. Early, so you know, I know, it's 127 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: highest pace in the history of the game. But then 128 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: you look at it over the next six years, it's 129 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: thirty two million dollars a year, which is a very 130 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: reasonable price for a receiver, and it's in line with 131 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: other receivers in the league. And you look at George 132 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: Pickens getting the franchise tag, I think, uh, he's gonna 133 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: be looking at thirty one thirty two million dollars a 134 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: year once he gets off of that. I think it's 135 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: gonna be fine. But this is the exact reason. You 136 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: can't keep a good player like Kobe Bryant, you can't 137 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: keep a Super Bowl MVP like Kenneth Walker. And you 138 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: got a draft, well, you got a draft. Well, you 139 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: gotta trust your depth. You gotta trust the guys you 140 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: signed in free agency that they can pick up the slack. 141 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 1: I know they feel good about Taya Kata in terms 142 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: of what he can do, and Kobe Bryants did. Obviously, 143 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: they have a lot of love and respect for Kobe Bryant, 144 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be fantastic in Chicago. But that's why 145 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: you draft. Well, that's why you gotta trust your depth. 146 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: That's why you train the next guy. That's why it's 147 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: always next man up mentality, because when you have guys 148 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: playing at our all pro you know, offensive player of 149 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: the year type level, you're gonna have to pay him. 150 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to pay Devin Witherspoon. And when you 151 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: pay Devin Witherspoon, then it means you're gonna expect more. 152 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to lean on those guys more because 153 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: you're not able to pay everybody else as much. 154 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: So you know it. 155 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: That's why what happened to San Francisco. When you're paying 156 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: your best players, it's fine. But when you pay your 157 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: best players and the guy you're the guys you're playing 158 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: aren't on the field, then it's very difficult to win 159 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: the National Football League. 160 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: And so. 161 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: This is gonna work out fine. I think their window 162 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: is wide open. I think they have a great chance 163 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: to run it back. Mike McDonald's system works. I don't 164 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: think the NFL is caught up to it. Obviously, they're 165 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: still looking for answers. But when you when you have 166 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: a full all season to study a team and to 167 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: study a defense, they're gonna be looking for the few 168 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: weaknesses that they can expose and try to force him 169 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: to adjust. That's the part of being a great team 170 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: and being at the top of the mountain. That's a 171 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: little frustrating because everybody's studying you. Everybody's trying to figure 172 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:12,119 Speaker 1: out how to beat you and create the next championship dynasty. 173 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: And can this team be a dynasty? I believe so. 174 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: I believe so because they have something. They have a 175 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: repeatable system. You know, it's not like anything they did 176 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: was incredibly difficult to replicate. You know, they ran the 177 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: ball well at times. Sam Darnold I think will be 178 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: better this year than he was last year. He had 179 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: twenty turnovers during the season, which was among the league leaders, 180 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: and then didn't turn the ball over once in a playoffs. 181 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: So again, if he plays at the level that he 182 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: played in the playoffs throughout the entire season, this is 183 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: a juggernaut of a team, A very difficult team, a 184 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: very difficult out for any team in the NFC or THEFC. 185 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: And you alluded to it too. 186 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: Another thing that this team really has is a really 187 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: game killer at general manager in John Schneider. Last offseason 188 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: he kind of stuck his neck on the line trading 189 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: DK Metcalf to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Some folks kind of 190 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: looked and wondered, you know, what's the plan here? Obviously 191 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: getting rid of Geno. I mean, in hindsight, both of 192 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: those moves allowed them to make a move like this 193 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: and extending JSN because you know, DK Metcalf's another guy 194 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: making thirty three million dollars a year, so you free 195 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 3: up that cap space to be able to keep JSN 196 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 3: and it's an addition by subtraction kind of thing. You're 197 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: giving the JSN a lot more opportunity there and clearly 198 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: proved he was that guy. You know, is there anything 199 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: that you looked off of last offseason that should have 200 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: been done differently for John Schneider and the Seahawks or 201 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: do you think he just greade aa stick. 202 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he's aced the last three years, four years. 203 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: That's why they're in a position they are because he's 204 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: drafted really well. They've made really shrewd trades that have 205 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: benefited them in a big way. They've taken care of 206 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: the positions that you got to take care of, which 207 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: you're which is offensive line and defensive line. You know, 208 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: it's not sexy to draft a guard in the first round, 209 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: but when you do, you solidify your offensive line in 210 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: an incredible way, and you solidify the culture of your 211 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: offensive line. And that's what they brought in with Grey's Abel. 212 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 1: I mean, you just hear how the guys in the 213 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: building talk about him and how he's changed things and 214 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: brought them together and certain things He's forced them to 215 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: hang out and be together because that's all he knows. 216 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: You know. 217 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: He's one of those old school cut offensive linemans that's like, hey, 218 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: we got to sit there and we got to drink 219 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: beer together, we got to hang out, we got to 220 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: be around each other. Hey, it's not a glamorous job, 221 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: but goddamn it, somebody gotta do it. 222 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: You gotta love to have those guys on the team, Richard. 223 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: Another low key move that this team made this week 224 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: is they re signed Jake Bobo. And I know Bobo 225 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: filled in and had a pretty decent role with this 226 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: team as a reserve wide receiver. He's certainly made a 227 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: name for himself in the preseason. How much do you 228 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 3: think the Seattle Seahawks like this guy? I mean, what 229 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: do you really think he brings to the team. I 230 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: know there was a lot of criticism, you know, with 231 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: this forty time and all that stuff, and he put 232 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: a lot of those fears to bed this past year. 233 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: But what do you think Jake Bobo and his resigning 234 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: needs to this team. 235 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: It means a ton, you know, in a lot of phases. 236 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: He does the dirty work. You know, he's just one 237 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: of those blue collar guys who brings his lunch bell 238 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: every day and goes to work. He's a guy that 239 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: makes an incredible impact on special teams. But at receiver, 240 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: he has plays, he has moments where where he's a 241 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: factor and he's not going to get you know, one 242 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: hundred targets or anything like that. But some guys are 243 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: for the culture, for the culture of the team, you know, 244 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: those are the guys, the nuts and bolts guys, And 245 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that are a glue guy 246 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: and really help hold this team together in critical moments 247 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: that you really don't notice until those moments come up 248 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, man, look at Bobo just scored 249 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: a touchdown in the playoffs, and you're like, you might 250 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: have he might have had fifteen catches the whole year, 251 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: and he scored a touchdown in the playoffs, And again, 252 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: he's reliable. 253 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: Where he needs to be. 254 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: There's no complaints and he's just a do shit right 255 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: guy and you need those Richard. 256 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: The one question we have coming up next, and the 257 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: big question for the Seattle Seahawks, is what to do 258 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 3: with Devan Wetherspoon. We just saw McDuffie get paid an 259 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: exorbitant amount of money by the LA RAMS after being 260 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: traded over from the Kansas City Chiefs, setting a new 261 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 3: market at corner after this JSN move, you know, what 262 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 3: do you do with Devin Wetherspoon? Do you re up him? 263 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: And what do you anticipate he makes? You know during 264 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: his extension? Is he another guy that you would set 265 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: the market with? Again, how would you handle the situation 266 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: if you're John Schneider. 267 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: I mean you would try not to set the market. 268 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: But again, if you get it done early enough, then 269 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: the years after the deal are the market seter So, 270 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: say he gets thirty one thirty million dollars a year 271 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: over the next four years, and they do it this 272 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: year again, when you have a couple of years left 273 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: on your deal, When you have a year or two 274 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: left on your deal, it makes a big difference. And 275 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: I think when you look at it over the lifetime 276 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: of the deal. It looks like a much more reasonable deal. 277 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: So again, I think he's going to get a deal, 278 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: a record setting deal, no question about it. I think 279 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: John Snyder is being very smart about how he does 280 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: these things and why he's doing it so early to 281 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: give him flexibility down the road and again allow him 282 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: to continue to draft well, continue to replenish the cupboard, 283 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: but also keep his guys happy, keep his best players happy. 284 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: Why do you think there's been a movement away from 285 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: teams like the Seattle Seahawks franchising players because you know 286 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: a lot of fans when you hear the talk, you know, 287 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: specifically in a running back market, like why wouldn't you 288 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: just franchise tag a guy like Kenneth Walker? What's why 289 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: is it that we're not seeing as many teams franchise 290 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: tag gu do you think? 291 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really have a great answer for this, 292 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: because each team's philosophy is so different, But I think 293 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: the Seahawks just want more long term stability, and I 294 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: think that's the way John Snyder is thinking about things. 295 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: He's thinking about the long term future. I mean, in 296 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: one year, franchise tag, it puts more guaranteed money on 297 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: the books that you can't manipulate, you can't push forward, 298 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: you can't do anything like that. And they've done a 299 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: fantastic job. They they're the lowest team in dead money, 300 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: the lowest dead money team in the National Football League, 301 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: the lowest amount of dead money. And the reason is 302 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: because he's been incredibly shrewd in the way he's done contracts, 303 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: and I don't think he wants to be in a 304 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: situation where he can't have flexibility, even if it's just 305 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: for a year with the running back position, and to 306 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: pay a number that he's not comfortable with. Because if 307 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: you're even if you're paying top number, top dollar, if 308 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: you got voidable years, if you got structured the way 309 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: you structure it, you still have some flexibility. But in 310 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: a franchise tag, there's very little. A solid wardrobe really 311 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: comes down to a few pieces that actually work and 312 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: hold up. That's why I've been rocking with Quints lately. 313 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: Same Richards, you must be reading my mind. Quint's is 314 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: all about those every day essentials, but done right, like 315 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: lightweight cashmere sweaters, short sleeve Mongolian cashmere polos. How about 316 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: some linen shorts and teas? In one hundred percent Pema cott. 317 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the kind of stuff you mix, match and 318 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: whar year round without overthinking it. 319 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: And the quality is real. 320 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: They use one hundred percent Mongolian cashmere, the same as 321 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: luxury brands. Their Pema cotton is long stable, so it's 322 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: s ASoft all the time. 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That's a full year to build out your wardrobe. 343 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: Make sure you love it. And they're now available in 344 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: Canada too. Don't keep settling for clothes that don't last. 345 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: Go to q u i nce dot com fourash Richard 346 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: for free shipping in three hundred and sixty five day 347 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: returns quins dot com forward slash Richard. 348 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: For sure, we got to take a little detour from 349 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: football talk and we're gonna talk a little bit about you, 350 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 3: because for all of our listeners out there, I don't 351 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: know if you've heard my guy right here, Richard Sherman 352 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 3: was just nominated for an Emmy. Emerging on Air Talent 353 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 3: Richard Sherman Emmy nominee. You know, Richard, talk a little 354 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 3: bit about how much it means to you to be 355 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 3: nominated for something like this for the Emmy. Obviously, you 356 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 3: were a hell of a football player. You began working 357 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: in the media shortly after retirement and you've been kicking ass. 358 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 3: What does it mean to you to be named as 359 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 3: a nominee for an Emmy at this stage, this early 360 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 3: on in your media career. 361 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: Well, it's incredibly humbling and it means a ton, but 362 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: it's just a testament to the product and the team 363 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: we have at Thursday Night Football. It's such a joy 364 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: to come to work every day, to work with Chris, 365 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: Tony Fitz, with Taylor, you know, the the entire staff. 366 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,959 Speaker 1: There's so many incredible people behind the scenes putting in 367 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: work making sure we're in the position of Mina Spoon Kaiser, 368 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: you know that, the higher ups, the execs, Jay Marine 369 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, it's just so many people 370 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: on these teams that do a phenomenal job, Mariano of 371 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: making sure that we have an incredible product where we're prepared, 372 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: everything is running, everything's worth it's supposed to be. Uh 373 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: my guy bk making sure you know, whether it's the 374 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: graphics are are making sure you know they're they're they're 375 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: switching to the right channel, or they're switching to the 376 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: right scene or the next camera, et cetera, et cetera, 377 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: and uh, it's you know, Chris is obviously the glue 378 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: that holds everything together. So I'm just grateful to be 379 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: a part of such an amazing team and and to 380 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: be nominated for an Emmy. 381 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: Is is a really cool deal. 382 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: But it's just more attestament to the entire product that 383 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: we get to put out there every week and it's 384 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: a joy to do it. 385 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited to see you win it. Like I said, 386 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: you have my vote, Rich, you got my vote. Let's 387 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: talk a little bit matter, yes, sir, Let's talk a 388 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 3: little bit about these San Francisco forty nine ers. You know, 389 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: the big news in San Francisco right now is what's 390 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: going on with Trent Williams. And obviously he's entering the 391 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: last year his contract. He's got a huge cap hit. 392 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 3: The forty nine Ers declined his ten million dollar option, 393 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 3: which basically moves that ten million dollars into his current 394 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 3: base salary. You know, the option was in there to 395 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 3: give him some flexibility if they wanted to extend that 396 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 3: out for three more void years. So they're choosing to 397 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: take the cap hit all up front this year. What 398 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: do you what do you make of the strategy here? 399 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 3: What do you think John Lynchin is positioning himself in 400 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 3: this team. 401 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: For to be to continue to be a very competitive 402 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: football team. I think they've gotten frustrated, not with Trent Williams. 403 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: But just with the dead money situation that they've run 404 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: into year after year after year. I think they've been, 405 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, amongst the top dead money teams for the 406 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: last few years because of Javon Hargraves contract, Deebo, Samuel, 407 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, so many guys that they've had to part 408 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: ways with for for whatever reason. 409 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 2: But they're trying to get away from that. 410 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: So I don't think they want to to to throw 411 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: more dead money into the future. I think they're trying 412 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: to to take their licks now. I don't think. But 413 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: again I haven't talked to John or Kyle, but I 414 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: don't I obviously don't see them getting rid of Trent Williams. 415 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: Trent feels like he has a tremendous amount of leverage. Obviously, 416 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: the longer these negotiations go on, the less leverage I 417 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: think Trent has because teams are gonna spend the money. 418 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: They're gonna spend the money, they're gonna get pay guys, 419 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna start to playing for next year. They're gonna 420 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: start to think, hey, this situation is done and teams 421 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: can't just create thirty million dollars in cap out of nowhere, 422 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: you know, some teams can, but the contenders usually have 423 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: a tight cap situation. So, you know, I think this 424 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: situation is going to get rectified. But obviously it's it's 425 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: been a bit of a distractionist offseason. But both sides 426 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: want to be here. Both sides want to want Trent 427 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: Williams in San Francisco, and that's something I believe and 428 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: I think that's what's gonna ultimately happen. 429 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 3: Well, this is not the same situation from last year 430 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 3: with Brandon Ayuk. I think Trent Williams, like you said, 431 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: really wants to be there. The reality is he is 432 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 3: getting up there in age. You know, his career is 433 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 3: probably coming to a close here in the next few years. 434 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 3: I'm sure he wants to make as much money as possible, 435 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: and I'm sure that forty nine ers want him at 436 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: left tackle for. 437 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 2: The foreseeable future here. 438 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 3: Richard, we got to talk a little flag football over 439 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: the weekend and you kind of talked about I don't 440 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: know how much we've actually talked about it on this podcast, 441 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: but you and I have talked about it separately, and 442 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 3: I remember asking you, I said, you, I mean, I 443 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 3: feel like NFL players would go and just demolished Team USA, 444 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: And you said, I don't know if that's the case, 445 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: because there's a lot of different rules at play, and 446 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 3: clearly we saw that all play out in real time. 447 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: You saw these guys doing like wrestling knee crawl moves, 448 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: avoiding defenders and just doing these fake spin moves and 449 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: just all over the place. And yet we've got former 450 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 3: and current NFL players that are just getting diced up 451 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: by these guys. Maybe Team USA and Team USA flag 452 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 3: football has made us all believers. Now, do you think 453 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: there's any situation where if the NFL stars were to 454 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 3: truly give it there all in practice by NFL or 455 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: by the flag football rules, and you learn the strategy, 456 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: do you think you know, given a little bit of time, 457 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 3: they might be able to put up a better fight 458 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: here or what? 459 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: No question about it, but this man, it's exactly what 460 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: I thought would happen. I thought I thought it would 461 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: be worse than what it was because it's such a 462 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: different game, and for them to put actual linebackers out 463 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: there was insane. I mean, you don't put linebackers have 464 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: no business in flag football. Their their entire build is 465 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: to stop runs and be physical, and that has no 466 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: place in flag football. So your middle linebackers is gonna 467 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: be like a nickel. It's gonna be like a nickel. 468 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: He's quick, agile, you know, maybe a taller nickel. Maybe 469 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: you get to my like Kyle Hamilton, who can be 470 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: good in space. But there's no place for bigger guys 471 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 1: and even the superstar guys that you're looking for. You know, 472 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: Jamier Gibbs would be great. I think K nine would 473 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: be great in flag football. I think I think Tyreek 474 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: Keel would be fantastic. Not it wouldn't necessarily be the 475 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: guys that make the best NFL players to play football 476 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: flag football. You know, it's sometimes it'd be the guy 477 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: who is the guy who is an offseason like, you know, 478 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: T shirt warrior, you know, the T shirt and shorts, 479 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, superstar. Those would make great flag football players. 480 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: They don't always translate into the best physical football players. 481 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: But it's also a different game and you and you 482 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: you got to respect the guys that that play that 483 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: game and the way they play that game. And some 484 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: people would ask me before they were like, oh, well man, 485 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna NFL is gonna send the team to the Olympics. 486 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: I said, I don't see very many NFL players being 487 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: on the roster at all. Now again, jamiir gives K nine. 488 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: You know, guys that are dynamic in short area quickness 489 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: and some of these scat little small, jitterbug receivers. Sure, 490 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: I think McDuffie would do well in this sense, you know, 491 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: But do I do I think every corner, every elite 492 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: corner that we have, would do well in this in 493 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: this game. No, I don't, because again, taking flags isn't 494 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: the same as tackling. You can track somebody down to 495 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: tackle them. You can, you can square them up, you 496 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: can read their body, and you can get yourself in 497 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: a position to bring them down. But the way they're 498 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: able to manipulate their body and lower their flags and 499 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: change the angles of their flags isn't something that NFL 500 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: players are used to. I mean, I saw Patrick Peterson 501 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: going against I show speed and he tracked him. Well, 502 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, in football, it would have been a great tackle. 503 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: You would put his shoulder on him, he would have 504 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: been to the ground, but he spun away from him 505 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: because you gotta grab his flags at the end of 506 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: the day. And and that's something that takes practice and 507 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: it's not one of those things that's that comes easier, 508 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: comes naturally to guys. So yeah, it's it's it's a 509 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: different coverage, the field smaller. You know that the game 510 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: is so much different for quarterbacks. Everybody's like, oh, these 511 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are putting on a bad showing, and that's it's 512 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: a different game. It's a different game. They're reading it 513 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: like these are the coverages they're used to seeing, but 514 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not the coverages you're used to seeing, 515 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: and it's not the guys playing the positions that you're 516 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: used to playing. So I think with more practice and 517 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: and and changing the guys, you know, you're not going 518 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: with your your the superstars that you're used to. 519 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: You're going with. 520 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: The the guys who can who can move in space, 521 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: who can cover in space, or quick, who have great 522 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: hand eye coordination. Lamar Jackson would be fantastic in this league. 523 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: You know, you got to have a mobile quarterback. You 524 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: know you can't. 525 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is a fantastic quarterback. 526 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's a fantastic quarterback, but in plag you need 527 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: a mobile guy who might be able to fling it 528 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: just enough. 529 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw a random name out there. Who I 530 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 3: think would be an All star in flight football. Cavante Turpin. 531 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 3: You know the Dallas Cowboys speeds, Yes, short, agile, quick, 532 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: Rashid Shaheed, your guy up in Seattle. Guys like that 533 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 3: that bring that element of quickness and speed to the game. 534 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: Look Out. 535 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 3: What will you just explained, Richard, is what in the 536 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 3: fighting community the difference between MMA and boxing, right? I mean, 537 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 3: you see all these MMA fighters try to fight in 538 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 3: boxing and it's a totally different sport. I think we 539 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 3: witnessed it this past weekend. Flag football is a lot 540 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: different than tackle football. But given time, I'm sure the 541 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 3: NFL stars could figure it out. But we did see 542 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 3: Odell Beckham Junior make a big catch in that game. 543 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 3: You know, he's still not on a team. What what 544 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 3: gives with him? Do you think he'll get an opportunity 545 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: this year? 546 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: You know, I'm hearing that their speculation out there that 547 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: teams are more interested because they's shown. I mean, he 548 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: can play, he can catch the ball at a high level. 549 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: A lot of the issues for him recently have just 550 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: been health. Can he get on the field, can he 551 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: stay on the field. When he's on the field, he 552 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: can play, He can catch the ball. What is his role? 553 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: Can he fit that role? Can he can he thrive 554 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: in a different role? You know, he's been a superstar 555 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: for so long. Can he thrive in a secondary role? 556 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: We'll see. But again, he's a guy who can play 557 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: the game. You you talk about DeAndre Hopkins, you know 558 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: another guy who can just play the game. They just 559 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: they're just football players. And if you put him out 560 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: there and you throwing the ball, they're going to make 561 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: some plays. Are they what they used to be in 562 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: their prime? No other time waits for no man. 563 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: But are they quality football players still? Yeah? I think so, 564 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: and I think they can have a role. 565 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 3: Well, we shall see. There's a lot of veterans that 566 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 3: are still like to be assigned here in free agencies. 567 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: And we've still got a lot of time left, you know, 568 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: obviously on the horizons the draft, Richard, We're gonna have 569 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: a lot more to talk about leading up to the draft. 570 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 3: It's always a pleasure sitting down with you again. Congrats 571 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 3: on your Emmy nomination, well deserved. I will let you 572 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 3: sign us off, my friend. 573 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: Thank you, Mitchell. I appreciate that. As always, you guys 574 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: can be anywhere in the world. But you're here with 575 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: us and we sincerely appreciate it. Thank you so much. 576 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: Hope your off season's going well. Hope your spring's going well. 577 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: I hope you have a great Easter in a couple 578 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: of weeks. All love, We'll see you next time.