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Speaker 2: Sure, it's time, Hell Low and Lollo, Welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Naughty but Nice shamby Hayes Storm Shooter. It's Wednesday, which

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Speaker 2: means our dear friend Donny Meacham joins us, Hey, Donnie,

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Speaker 2: are you there? Hell? Hello?

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Speaker 1: Wednesday? Wednesday, Wednesday. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: Halfway through? Halfway through. Okay, let's jump into the show.

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Speaker 2: What time is it, my friends? It is tea time.

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Speaker 2: Big story. At the top of the show, Prince William

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Speaker 2: is furious as King Charles has brought Beatrice back into

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Speaker 2: tell me that William strongly opposed his father, the king

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Speaker 2: surprise decision to thrust Princess Beatrice back into the royal spotlight,

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Speaker 2: calling it too risky and too soon. So Beatrice, Mum

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Speaker 2: and Dad are the disgraced, Andrew no longer a prince

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Speaker 2: when Andrew was stripped of all his titles Fergie two.

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Speaker 2: We thought the York Family would disappear, but now the

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Speaker 2: people are saying this is really nice because they did

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Speaker 2: nothing wrong. Eugenie and Beatrice, they cannot be blamed for

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Speaker 2: sentimental man. He has overruled his son, and despite concerns

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Speaker 2: from William, the King personally approved beatrice new rule with

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Speaker 2: major solo outing in years. He's done it on purpose.

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Speaker 2: This is not an accident. Just days after ha Dad

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Speaker 2: discussing we don't want Andrew anymore. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 2: Beatrice and Eugenie should be punished for this DNA, but

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Speaker 2: not promote them either. Just be neutral. No, the King

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Speaker 2: is pushing them out to work on behalf of the family.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Ah, this is the.

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Speaker 1: Thing, This is what the Royal family has to understand.

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Speaker 1: The Andrews story is not gonna go away. It's not

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Speaker 1: going away. You can strip him of his titles, you

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Speaker 1: can do whatever. He allegedly still did what he did.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't It's not gonna go away. It's gonna take time.

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Speaker 1: But also I'm very torn because as long as you

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Speaker 1: But I just I'm a big opponent of the daughters

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Speaker 2: They didn't do anything. It's not that we know of.

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Speaker 1: We don't know how much they knew. We don't know anything.

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Speaker 1: But the kids should never have to suffer for your parents' mistakes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree here. So William wants the Yorks out

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Speaker 2: As a former pr professional, I can see both sides

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Speaker 2: William wants to be a little bit more subtle with this.

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Speaker 2: We all knew who Andrew was, We've known for some time.

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Speaker 2: William is furious as the King has pushed Beatrice back

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Speaker 2: he at your results. Hey, Toney Radio, that's Dotty's email?

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Speaker 1: A billionaire has been snowed? So you know Jeff Bezos

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Speaker 1: from I'm there's something happening there. Maybe you can clear

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Speaker 1: that up. One person not invited, mister Elon Musk. You

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Speaker 2: He is JFK's grandson. His grandmother was Jackie. Oh. I mean,

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Speaker 2: It just feels Donny big picture here. All the details

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that it's Chris Jenner's birth party. Oprah's there there.

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