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Speaker 1: Touchdown Chance City that chants all right theck of it?

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Speaker 2: Baby? Well, Hello Kingdom Defenders, Welcome to this special episode

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Speaker 2: of Defending the Kingdom, one that I'll just I called

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Speaker 2: it Matt kit Buck dwitch Stanz, which is Matt goes

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Speaker 2: to Germany. So Matt Kate buckedwitch Stintz and you German followers,

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Speaker 2: of course we're headed your way. Matt's headed your way soon.

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Speaker 2: But this episode is exciting because you're going to Frankfurt

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Speaker 2: here to check it out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to Germany this weekend. So one of

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Speaker 1: our business directors uh slacked me a few weeks ago

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Speaker 1: Germany for a few events, and I was like, Uh,

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Speaker 1: going to Germany for five days, helping to cultivate some

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: So again, Matt gate Dok Deutschland. Some other German coming away,

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Speaker 2: poor German. But I'm getting there. But then I would

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Speaker 2: say vas and Vaughan, meaning, what's this event? Where are

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Speaker 2: we going? What? What is it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's a series of things. I'm there for

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Speaker 1: five days. The first day is kind of like a

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Speaker 1: Dante Hall will be there, a couple of Chiefs cheerleaders

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Speaker 1: A whole bunch of German fans are excited about this,

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Speaker 1: entire organization should be really cool. And then the last

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Speaker 1: it'll be an amazing trip. It's going to be a whirlwind.

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Speaker 1: It's just five days. We're gonna do a lot, but

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a pretty cool experience sharing our

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I didn't fully give us the

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Speaker 2: introduction here, Mitch hold us with your voice to the

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Speaker 2: senior team reporter. Wo'd you go the first trip? I

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Speaker 1: Well with my family. I went to Munich on like

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Speaker 1: And what I've gathered based on our interactions with German

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Speaker 2: We have not yet. And that being said, one of

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Speaker 1: Well, I've got five today. Ironically none from Germany. We

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Speaker 1: funny is in our cafeteria, they'll play like NFL Network, right.

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Speaker 2: Cook you're Parker because it'll be a little frosty up there.

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Speaker 2: But some NFC North flavor since yeah, from this crew.

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Speaker 2: Well, those are our five visits as we go around

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Speaker 2: When the schedule release came out, this was one of

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Speaker 1: Really cool because we talked about how hungry these fans

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Speaker 1: And it's cool that it's in November. It's not a

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Speaker 2: Now you want to have some fun, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Okay for those cool So those of you just listening

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Speaker 2: Have I said that yet? No, but it is.

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Speaker 2: Brought to you by Ticketmaster. And why is that big?

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Speaker 2: It's almost a daily occurrence, like, hey, do you know

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Speaker 2: But again, this episode of Matt get Nokdousch, Lenny's Matt's

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Speaker 2: and listening, we are presenting the helmet of the Frankfurt Galaxy.

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Speaker 2: Look at this, such an awesome helmet. Now, those of

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Speaker 1: It is very Clemson.

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Speaker 2: wear it. So the so the logo of the Frankfurt Galaxy,

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Speaker 2: So you look at basically the Milky Way, right, this

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Speaker 1: Yes, let's do it. Okay, this is so cool. This

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Speaker 1: Mitch just pops in my office when we were going

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's the best. How does he find this thing?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but pretty cool. But yes, let's have

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Speaker 2: And even on the back of this is a Chiefs

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Speaker 1: So Donte Hall, Dante hallam Claymors.

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Speaker 2: So it's not if you're a Frankfurt Galaxy fan you

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. Mitch has been saying for days now that

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Speaker 1: What a small world.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible. And so there's ties already between Frankfort and

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Speaker 2: He talked about he glowed, he glowed about it. He

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Speaker 1: Did kil get you this helmet?

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean, what are the odds? What a

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Speaker 2: How cool as this helmet?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was going to talk about.

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Speaker 2: So I just wore it around for a while and

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Speaker 1: I just thought Tammy was saying, Mitch, She's like, get

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Speaker 2: Dude, dude, can you imagine I'll let you take it home?

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Speaker 1: And oh well, anyway, I have a lot of respect

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Speaker 1: They won the most World Bowl titles with four and

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: This is pretty tough, but I think you actually know it.

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Speaker 1: So there was numerous teams. I'm just checking out this

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Speaker 2: So these are the nine teams that lasted all fifteen season.

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Speaker 2: Scottish Claymores yep, London Monarchs yep, the Barcelona Dragons.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Ryan Fire, which is a great name.

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Speaker 2: I love Ryan. I played in Dusseldorf, by the way,

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Speaker 2: Berlin Thunder huh, Frankfurt Galaxy yep. I'm three left and

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Speaker 2: they're in Europe.

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Speaker 1: They're all in Europe, two in Germany.

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Speaker 2: Two more in Germany. Yeah, Munich. What was their name though?

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Speaker 1: I don't see a team of Munich, you know what.

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Speaker 2: That might not have been Munich. Okay, so all three

435
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Speaker 2: of these are in Germany.

436
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Speaker 1: Left, two in Germany, one not in Germany.

437
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Speaker 2: I mean I'm spinning my wheels here. No, this isn't fair.

438
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 2: I just put you on side. No, but I just

439
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 2: got I just got six of them, but I need

440
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 2: three more.

441
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 1: It's impressive, you got six.

442
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Speaker 2: I love this. I loved NFL Europe and I love that.

443
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Speaker 2: We're going to go to Frankfurt, Germany. Okay, I give up, Okay.

444
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Speaker 2: The Amsterdam Admirals. Amsterdam Admirals they.

445
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 1: Played from nineteen ninety five two thousand and seven.

446
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Speaker 2: Classic.

447
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 1: These other two teams were short lived. But the Cologne

448
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 1: Centurions clones, yes.

449
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 2: And they were not.

450
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: They were an arch rival of the Frankfurt Galaxy not

451
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: far away.

452
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Speaker 2: No, Cologne Centurions were Yeah, they didn't like each other. Yeah,

453
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 2: So the German teams really developed some interesting rivalries among

454
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 2: those five or six that were spinning and churning and burning.

455
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: So yes, the Colone Centurions big art, tribal.

456
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 1: So the Frankfurt Galaxy awesome name one well, last one

457
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: is the Hamburg Sea Devilsurg two thousand and five to

458
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Speaker 1: two thousand and seven.

459
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Speaker 2: You know, and that is that's my home area, right,

460
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 2: that's my tracing to my is the Hamburg area is

461
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 2: to where my family started on the paternal side on

462
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Speaker 2: the Hamburg Sea Devils. Yeah, I apologize. My ancestors from Hamburg.

463
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Speaker 1: Will be laying in bed, just like I can't believe

464
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Speaker 1: I didn't get.

465
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Speaker 2: Believe I didn't get the Hamburg Sea Devils.

466
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Speaker 1: That was good though. Six out of nine is good names.

467
00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: I love that one.

468
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Speaker 1: Great names. The Scottish Claymoars is so great and that's

469
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: who Dante played for, if we didn't mention that earlier.

470
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I kind of like the Frankfurt Galaxy though.

471
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, put the Milky Way on the helmet. Yeah,

472
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 2: it's awesome, love it.

473
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Speaker 1: It's awesome.

474
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Speaker 2: So we'll close out this way and we'll bring it

475
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 2: back to the current times as we close, and that

476
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 2: is getting ready for Germany. So now not only is

477
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Speaker 2: Matt gik Noktowischlenn, He's going to Germany, the Chiefs are

478
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 2: getting ready to play in Germany. And this point of

479
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 2: the calendar is is more important than people realize, because

480
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: you and I we immerse ourselves even in this part

481
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Speaker 2: of our calendar, which is the OTA phase right off

482
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Speaker 2: season training activities still restricted because of the NFL Players Association.

483
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Speaker 2: But I don't think there is a team in the

484
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Speaker 2: National Football League that approaches the OTAs with the fervor

485
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,479
Speaker 2: and importance of the Kansas City Chiefs. And you have

486
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 2: to look no further than what Andy Reid says and does.

487
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 2: The coaching staff and most notably Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelcey,

488
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 2: they attack the like it's training camp as much as

489
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 2: they can do. And we see what has become the

490
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 2: best team in the NFL, especially over the past six seasons,

491
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: the potting soil of those wins in December and January

492
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: that you think of and watch of and you're watching

493
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: in the cafeteria on NFL Network. The beginning seeds are

494
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 2: planted right now. This is an important tome.

495
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Speaker 1: Could not agree more. And if you've hung with us

496
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: this entire episode, we are going to talk some real

497
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: Chiefs football here now. I'm totally with you about how

498
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: this is the time you lay the foundation for what

499
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: the season is going to look like. Because it's very

500
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: easy to say, ah, they're just in shorts. You know,

501
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 1: there's no pads, there's no hitting. What are they really

502
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: getting done? And some teams kind of embrace that philosophy

503
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: of we're not going to do much at all. We're

504
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: not going to give the players a lot of information here.

505
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: We're not going to even hold all these practices. We're

506
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Speaker 1: going to use this just as team building. Some people

507
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: don't think it's important. Coach read and everyone in this

508
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: building thinks it is very important. And the proof is

509
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: in the results. Like you just mentioned, the Chiefs attack

510
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: OTAs like no other team. They're gonna get a ton

511
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: of stuff done out there when other teams aren't. So

512
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: when training camp rolls around, all of a sudden, these

513
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: other teams that don't really attack OTAs, it's a ton

514
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: of new information. It's all rushing back to them. For

515
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, they've already started playing this foundation and they

516
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: just continue it. So OTAs are really important. Let's do

517
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: a bit of housekeeping and explain what's going on right now.

518
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Speaker 1: Monday of this week began Phase three of the offseason

519
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Speaker 1: and that includes OTAs. What does OTA stand for? Organized

520
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: team activities? Basically, these are the first practices and you

521
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: can hold ten of them over the next three weeks

522
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: where you can do eleven on eleven drills. In Phase one,

523
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 1: it's just working out. You can't do anything on the field.

524
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: Phase two is just like individual drills, positional drills. The

525
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: offense can go against air, the defense can go against air,

526
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: but there's no offense versus defense. This is the first

527
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: time on the calendar since the Super Bowl that we

528
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: can see eleven on eleven drills here on the team facility. Again,

529
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: no pads, no hitting, but it looks like real football,

530
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: and that's important. So we get these OTA practices where

531
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Speaker 1: these guys can start meshing together. We'll have media once

532
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: a week during OTAs, so there will be a media

533
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Speaker 1: session where you'll hear from coach Reed and Patrick Mahomes.

534
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: It'll be on the Chiefs YouTube page on May twenty fourth.

535
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Speaker 1: There will be one on June first, and then June eighth,

536
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: and all of this leads into Mandatory Mini Camp, which

537
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: is a three day practice period which is very similar

538
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: to OTAs from June thirteenth to fifteenth. And there's ninety

539
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: one players on the roster right now, a lot of players.

540
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: I wrote an article on Chiefs dot com that's up

541
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: there right now that kind of details all the positions

542
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: and all the players that are on our roster right

543
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: now and answers why do we have ninety one and

544
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: not ninety Well, it's all in that article, but exciting

545
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: time here for you and I and for the Chiefs

546
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: finally first time a off season we'll see some eleven

547
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: on eleven football.

548
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Speaker 2: Here well and what and we also see seven on

549
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 2: seven sure yes, So these OTA workouts in phase three

550
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: and as it gets closer to the mandatory mini camp

551
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: start to look like training camp practices. There's no nine

552
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: on seven, no inside running because there's no pads. You

553
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: can't hit in these, but you can do seven on seven,

554
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 2: which is very important for route concepts and covering the same.

555
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: And then the eleven on eleven work which is now

556
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: you're you're taking the laboratory one step further, especially with

557
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 2: your younger players, and they're seeing these seven hundred plays

558
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: that exist in the Chiefs iPad and seeing it like

559
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 2: come out in front of their eyes. So coach emphasizes

560
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: these OTAs where he puts on he tests them. Now

561
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: he'll test them mentally as well as physically of how

562
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 2: much can a player take. I'm going to throw this

563
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: on the plate of a player, especially the ones they're

564
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: counting on right away, and what can they process, what

565
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: can they process and execute? So OTAs are huge for

566
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Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs right now. For the life of me,

567
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 2: I got into this discussion during Super Bowl Week on

568
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: more than one occasion with different folks around the NFL

569
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 2: about teams kind of de emphasizing OTA's or blowing them

570
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: off and kind of waiting to training camp and then

571
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 2: kind of the easing in training camp. And we've seen

572
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: them that some teams struggle in September. So for the

573
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: Chiefs OTAs, we said this before, but you just have

574
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: to understand how importantly are so they can hit Mandatory

575
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 2: Mini camp on a full sprint, they can hit Saint

576
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: Joseph on a full sprint, and they can hit September

577
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: on a full sprint. The chief season is going right now,

578
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: and OTAs are incredibly important.

579
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Speaker 1: And I don't mean this as a slander toward Aaron Rodgers.

580
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: He's a future Hall of Famer. But I remember last year,

581
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: I don't believe he went to the Packers OTA's. They

582
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: did not when they had all the new receivers. He

583
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: said he didn't think he needed it, and then they

584
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: had all kinds of problems early in the season trying

585
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: to get and sync as an offense. It's hard in

586
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: the NFL. And what I love about Patrick mah Holmes

587
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: is he is a two time MVP, a two time

588
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP. He's the best player in the game,

589
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: and he's at these voluntary practices getting to know his

590
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: new receivers and trying to build raport with even players

591
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: that have been here a long time, Guys like him,

592
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: guys like Travis Kelce. They attack these practices like they

593
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: are trying to make the team, and they have all

594
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: the agency in the world that where they could be

595
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: like gay, We're not going to go No, They're here

596
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 1: trying to get better. So it just has a lot

597
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: about our guys and our commitment to being back in

598
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, because it's hard to win in the NFL,

599
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: and the guys are in the building right now in May,

600
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: getting ready for hopefully a great season ahead and going

601
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: back to the Super Bowl.

602
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: Scheme evaluation, personnel evaluation. It's so organized. Coach t reat

603
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: organizes these to the t. They're fun actually to watch

604
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: and observe because the team you just see how they're

605
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: getting ready for the twenty twenty three season. Matt's getting

606
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: ready to go to Germany. Matt gaetak deutschlint. Now I'm

607
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 2: gonna screw this up too, but or she sicks steine,

608
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: or she sticks steine, which is be careful, all right,

609
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: And then I never get like chu's right choose, which

610
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: is like see ya, but Borsi sticks stein donka borsisics thin.

611
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: It's about all I sign. But so excited you get

612
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: to go.

613
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be an amazing experience. I can't wait

614
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: to again just get to meet some football fans over

615
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: in Germany, and I just I believe so strongly and

616
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs as an organization and the power of football

617
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: and what it could do around the world and how

618
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: can change people's lives and and really just be such

619
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: a force for good in the world. And we get

620
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: to share what's so special with us and for us

621
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Speaker 1: with all these fans in Germany. So should be pretty amazing.

622
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: A great little primer for what we're going to do

623
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Speaker 1: in November.

624
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Speaker 2: And I think it opens up a great conduit, even

625
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: things like commerce and tourism back and forth, a two

626
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: way conduit between deuts Schlenn and the United States, because

627
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: there's so much interest, uh with the two fan bases

628
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: going back and forth. So Matt gig Doc deuts Schlend

629
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Speaker 2: a great trip and get ready for Germany and for

630
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three season. Don t touch down, losh

631
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: it down, and the celebration begins with their head