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Speaker 1: On the Doe Cast, the questions asked if movies have

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Speaker 1: start changing it with the bel Cast. Hello and welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Beckdel Cast. My name is Caitlin, my name

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Speaker 1: is Jamie, and we're here to talk about movies. But

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Speaker 1: what about the portrayal of women characters? Yeah, that's like

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Speaker 1: that interesting angle, very interesting angle. I pitched it one

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Speaker 1: time to someone. They're like, here's a million dollars. I've

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Speaker 1: never heard such a great idea. It was me. Thank

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Speaker 1: you again for that. I had dollar dollars. Yes, I've

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Speaker 1: been spending it wisely. You'll be happy to know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we give it all the Aristotle. What are you doing

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Speaker 1: with an Aristotle? He's buying bottles of smear knof ice

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Speaker 1: to ice us with. Oh that's what he's doing. Do

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Speaker 1: you think we've consumed a million dollars? Do you think

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Speaker 1: anyone's ever consumed a million dollars worth of smear knot ice? No,

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Speaker 1: but I think you're well on your way to consuming

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Speaker 1: what that's uh, kind of mean to say, but also

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Speaker 1: if we're breaking it down financially, that's five hundred thousand mics.

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Speaker 1: Aren't lemonades. They only cost two dollars. Well, it's a

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Speaker 1: cost effective road to ruin. Sure, there's time, there's time yet. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So anyway, we're talking about the portrayal of women in movies.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's okay, Sometimes it's not. Often it's not. It's

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Speaker 1: inspired by the Bechdel Test, which requires that a movie

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Speaker 1: to be about something other than Is that so much

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Speaker 1: to ask? Apparently it is sometimes because a lot of

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Speaker 1: movies don't pass the Bechdel tests. Because we're talking about

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Speaker 1: an older movie today, Yeah, what what I'm saying about.

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Speaker 1: You watched an older movie that I asked you to watch,

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Speaker 1: called The wom and you did not like it, right you?

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Speaker 1: You referenced it several times on the podcast. I was like,

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Speaker 1: sounds like. But we're talking about a movie that I

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Speaker 1: like much better than that. But before we jump in,

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Speaker 1: let's introduce our guests. That sounds wonderful. She's a comedian.

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Speaker 1: She's done a one woman show at the Fringe Festival

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Speaker 1: a movie coming out called The Fields. Ever Maynard, Hello, Hi,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here, Thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me. Also, the Fields would pass the bichel Tesk.

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Speaker 1: What about the female orgasm? Oh my god, there should

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Speaker 1: like a subtest. I bet almost no movie would pass.

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Speaker 1: I can't even I'm trying to think of movies that like,

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Speaker 1: forest fire. Only you can cause forest fires by orgasm.

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Speaker 1: What an incredible notion to place in people's heads. For

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Speaker 1: a women, You'll burn down our florends. What's the what's

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Speaker 1: what's the movie today? Oh? My god, the movie today

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Speaker 1: is The Wizard of Oz. This is a special episode

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Speaker 1: this podcast is now about Mickey Rooney. Sorry, we're not

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Speaker 1: talking about about rooney Heads for yet. Mickey Rooney and

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Speaker 1: I had no friends for a year. That's plenty of

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00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: time to write. Just impressed that someone of that age. Yeah,

421
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: I didn't and I couldn't. I couldn't. Yeah, I was

422
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: trapped in prison. I'm sorry. I don't mean to laugh

423
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: at that. All I did was take algebra tests and

424
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: think about the Wizard of Oz. Did you enjoy? No,

425
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: I didn't. I wanted. I don't. I was bad. I

426
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: was bad. I was very bad mass and I wanted

427
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: to be good at it, but it wasn't. If you

428
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: remember from the Mean Girls episode, I was a mathlete.

429
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: I know you were. I was. I was a woman.

430
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: I was a woman. Hey, let's talk about the female

431
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: characters in this movie. Sure, we've got as you already mentioned, basically,

432
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: any woman on screen is probably in charge and if something,

433
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: she's uh, you know, strong and powerful. We got Anti m,

434
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: who we don't see on screen that much, only really

435
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: in the beginning and then right at the very end.

436
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: I love Anti M. I love when she screams for

437
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: Dorothy in the middle of the like Dorothy, like that

438
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: they barely look for her, like there. Yeah, I wonder

439
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: if that happens after the right after the movie ends, like,

440
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: wait a second, did you try to find me? We

441
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: had just closed the doors too. Yeah, the storms sound

442
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: like it's too it's too damn. They're clothed. Uncle Henry.

443
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: He came down hard. She was like, let's look for

444
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: our niece, and we're just like, no, get in here.

445
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: Then she's like, all right, you're right she's not our

446
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: biological daughter, she's just our sister's daughter, which we don't

447
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 1: know what happened, We don't know, So that's pecked up

448
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: my sequel for speculation, right, and then Doro think it's

449
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: knocked unconscious by what when clearly a plastic window hitting

450
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: her in the arm. It was a glass window pane

451
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: with wood. Hard to watch, the back of the head,

452
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: hard to watch, hard to watch. I do remember being

453
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 1: like very startled by it as a kid, like when

454
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: I'd have to close my eyes when I knew that

455
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: part was about to happen, because it would always startle

456
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: me when the window comes out of the bam. Hey

457
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: speaking startling. As a kid, we used to look for

458
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: the guy who hung himself. Did you guys do that? Yes, yeah, yes,

459
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: But then once they was pumped it up to high,

460
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: they took it out. It's a bird, yeah, or that's

461
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: what they'll tell you, Wizard. But even in the old

462
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: VHS tapes they had the hanging man. Oh yeah, for sure. Hey,

463
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: you're going to Culver City later Culver City hotel, and

464
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: they had like a Wizard of Oz diorama like in

465
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: the front of their hotel, and so I stopped because

466
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, this is relevant to my interests. Apparently,

467
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: the Munchkins were staying at the Culver City Hotel and

468
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: the Culver City Hotel to their discredit, they tout in

469
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: the diorama that they had the Munchkin sleep for to

470
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: a bed during the production of the movie. It says

471
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: it in the diorama. I don't know a lot about this,

472
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: but like, I mean, were they being exploited? Was there

473
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: like exploitation happening? Like technically yes, but I don't think

474
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: you could find like someone who participated in that movie

475
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: as a Munchkin that felt that way. Not that I

476
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 1: It used to be two of my favorite early YouTube

477
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: searches were like Munchkin interviews now and Titanic Survivor interviews now.

478
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: I just like to watch withered old people talk about

479
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: the good old days. Yeah, but I think most of

480
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: the Munchkins seemed they were proud to be a part

481
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: of it. I don't know if you're okay with it.

482
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: I can't speak for them, so that's true. We can't

483
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: speak for them. I can't, But well, I was I

484
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: wasn't sure if there's any sort of like, um, if

485
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: they had anyone of them had come forth and been

486
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,479
Speaker 1: like they were exploiting us or I think a lot

487
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: of the studios back in the day like exploited all

488
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: their actors like twelve dollars a day or like thirty dollars,

489
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: you know, like it wasn't like it was Nelly. They

490
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: were just like, we know you're gonna work for this

491
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: amount of money, and if you don't, we're gonna make

492
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: somebody else's star. So what are you gonna do? You know? Yeah,

493
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,239
Speaker 1: so if you're thinking yeah, like if we're if we're

494
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: getting into the nitty gritty, you know, Judy Garland is

495
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: actively being turned into a drug addict during the production

496
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: of this exactly uppers down or uppers down Nickey at

497
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: night saying are you up or you down? And he's like,

498
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm busy thinking ideas. Man, I'm an

499
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: idea is gonna now come over, try some soda for dogs.

500
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: They was married, I have a gardener crazy, Okay, I'm

501
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: not in Chicago, They're sorry. One last thing before we're talking.

502
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: Most of us is a frank Elbaum park and there's

503
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: a Wizard of Loss Park. I used to write my

504
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: bike there and like take walks all the time. When

505
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: Chicago it was really nice. Oh my god, the first

506
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: time I visited Chicago, that was like my first stop.

507
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I gotta go Warning for Park for sure.

508
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: Every tree in that park is since fired the whole

509
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: park person into flames the second I got there. Yeah,

510
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: I don't even know where just I mean, this is

511
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 1: such an iconic movie, Like everyone knows the story. Everyone

512
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: knows Dorothy. She's such an iconic character. Is she a

513
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: good character? Let's talk about it. I mean, I don't

514
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: think Dorothy is the strongest female character in this movie

515
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: per se, but I think that she is. She's sort

516
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: of the avatar that we're supposed to plug ourselves into,

517
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: and she sort of guides us through Oz And she's

518
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: also a kid. So it's kind of hard to this

519
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: hard to make the argument that it's like, why isn't

520
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: she in charge of it? Like she's a kid, right,

521
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: How old is she supposed to be? Like a teenager

522
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: in the book, she's supposed to be like I think

523
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: eleven or twelve. But also, Shirley Temple was almost Dorothy

524
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 1: this movie. It was almost a very I don't think

525
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: that the movie would have been that I don't know, Rememberable, Yeah,

526
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: like it would have been another memorable Rememberable y'all got

527
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: a starry n O. But I think, yeah, I think

528
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: if Shirley Temple had been in it, it would have

529
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: been another Shirley Temple movie as opposed to what it is.

530
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: But Dorothy is supposed to be younger than Judy Garland

531
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: is in this movie because they like strapped her breasts

532
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: down for this movie. Like she's supposed to see me younger,

533
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: even though I think she's fifteen or sixteen and kind

534
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: of looks it, she's supposed to be like I think twelve,

535
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: got it? But also like think like she's from a

536
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: small town in Kansas. Her only friend is Toto. Like

537
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: she's right or die for this dog, like a woman's

538
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: going to kill her dog and she's like, we gotta

539
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: run away. Like so she's in the first of all.

540
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: Now there's color everywhere, she's seeing all these crazy things. Yeah,

541
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: like that's insane. It wasn't this the first movie and technicolor.

542
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: I think it was one of the first wildly released ones.

543
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: Ok yeah, yeah yeah, and they had the best can

544
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: you is there a better technicolor gimmick in the world?

545
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: Then starting and not technicolor than the Big Old Room.

546
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: It's so good. It's still so good. It rules not

547
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: unlike Pleasantville that movie starts. That movie came out. Yeah

548
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: they have the technology, and yeah, so I don't. I

549
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: wasn't jagged about it. Trying to draw a lot of

550
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: parallels as many as I can to pleasant Bill grow Up.

551
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: I think they. I think Dorothy for who she is,

552
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: is a great female lead. You know, like she does

553
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: the best she can. She's kind of weirdly leading this

554
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: ragtag group. Yeah, she doesn't make a lot of I mean,

555
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: she's the vehicle of this story. She's the driving force.

556
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: She's like the moral center to which I mean, I

557
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: guess he's like kind of a traditionally feminine role, but

558
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: like she helps everyone she can. She doesn't operate against

559
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: her own moral code at any point. Really, it's no sex,

560
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: no sexual tension, does not fuck. She does not have

561
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: She doesn't even have a crush. A crush though, you

562
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: know at the end where you're like, did she have

563
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: a crush in the Scarecrow, She's like, I'm gonna maybe

564
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: most of all, and you're like, all right, I see it,

565
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: I get it. If you gotta go for one. That's

566
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: the one you go for. His name is hunk. That

567
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: guy's kids name is literally he's a hunk. He you know,

568
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: I really like Ray Bulinger. He was also if you're

569
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: if you if you like Ray Bulger, you gotta check

570
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: him out in those follies movies of the late twenties

571
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: and early thirties. He's great tap dancer. Check out his

572
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: check out that guy's tapping alright. He did have a

573
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: lot of Yeah. I mean I would say that yeah,

574
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: she is, especially for the era. I mean, I think

575
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: the patrol of women has both gotten like it's gone

576
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: in different directions, where like sometimes women are portrayed really

577
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: horribly in mainstream cinema, but we've also like progressed a

578
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: bit since then. So considering the era of the late

579
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: thirties when this movie was just I think it's pretty

580
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: impressive for sure. And then if we get into all

581
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: the secondary female characters, they're pretty much all for better

582
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: or worse in charge of something. Because if we start

583
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: with Annie m she you know, Uncle Henry, he's a

584
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: he's a du fist, like the best indicator of who

585
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: he is is just like after Annie um flips out

586
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: at Miss Gulch and leaves and then Uncle Henry just

587
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: sit through, like sorry about that. He's like just another day.

588
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: Like he's just a sweet little simpleton, which which is

589
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: great and good for him. But you know he's a

590
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: beta man, a beta male. Yeah, I love a good beta.

591
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta love a beta. Uncle Henry is

592
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: not ashamed. He loves it, except when it comes to hey,

593
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: get yeah, I'm scared of this tornado typical beta. And

594
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: then yeah, I mean the other male characters in relation

595
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: to the female just like they all have some sort

596
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: of shortcoming where they need to go to the Wizard

597
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: to like fix this problem, and they're all they're kind

598
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: of cooks. And these are all things that Dorothy already has.

599
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: She already has brains, she already has a heart. She

600
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: didn't ask courage. She just didn't know it, I think,

601
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I think she didn't. She was

602
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: just like, I've got this stuff. I just need to

603
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: get home. I'm a complete person as is. I'll take

604
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: all you half men with me so that we can.

605
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: I think they were full men. They just have been

606
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: through a lot. Yeah, they had there, and I do

607
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: appreciate that every single men. You don't have men my men.

608
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: I got three men. I got three whole men here. No,

609
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: there's three half men, A one and one and a

610
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: half man. Hated that television show There's No There. Well,

611
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: I I I when I was watching it earlier today

612
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: because I hadn't seen it in three or four months. Baby,

613
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: But the Scarecrow, tin Man and the Cowardly Lion all

614
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: at some point do specifically ask her can I come

615
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: with which is like such a sweet bait of thing

616
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: to do, like hey, and you're in your way somewhere,

617
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: but like I promise it won't be too much trouble,

618
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: and she's like get over here, you dumb like that,

619
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: or like they're like I have this problem and she's

620
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: like I'm scared. Okay, it's you can come with us.

621
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: She's face That's why I love Dorothy. She's like I

622
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: can fix you, and like this is how I go

623
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: through life. Get on, I can face you, and then eventually,

624
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, if I can't, I'm gonna get in this

625
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: hot air balloon. Gotta go, you know. There's also several

626
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: different scenes where they're confronted with an obstacle of some

627
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: sort and like all the other characters are like, oh God,

628
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: how do we handle this? What do we do? And

629
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Speaker 1: she's just like, no, this about it. Yeah. For example,

630
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: whenever the Cowardly Lion is intimidating the tin Man and

631
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: the Scarecrow, before we know he is, in fact how

632
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 1: wardly and he's like chasing around Toto, She's like, Bam,

633
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: slaps him in the face. Slap. Ever a downward slap,

634
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: not a slap across the face that horizontal. It's it's

635
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: a vertical slap. She volleyballs him spike, you know, hot take.

636
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't like the Cowardly Lion. I find him very abeous.

637
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: I hate all this forward your King of the Forest

638
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: every time. I don't like it. I don't like his

639
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: his other song either, when he's first introduced, because he

640
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: goes from falling like a baby. Yeah. But even so

641
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: here the forest, I say, cut it, put back in

642
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: the deleted number. The Jitterbug. Oh. I have the soundtrack

643
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: and they good. It's so good that when does that

644
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: supposed to happen? When they're in the forest, when they're

645
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: about to get to oz Um and they're hearing like

646
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: the monkeys and then there it would have dated the

647
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: movie in a way that it's not dated otherwise. But

648
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: it's a very catchy little tune where they all do

649
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: the jitter bug in the forest, and the jitterbug is

650
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: supposed to be like an actual bug. Catch a little tune.

651
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: Though I like the cowardly Lion. He's really I feel

652
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: guilty for not liking him more. I don't know what

653
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: it is. You could see him being annoying though, Like, yeah,

654
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: he's annoying. I also like don't like the like aesthetic

655
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: of him, like the makeup and the costume. He's a

656
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: little scary. I mean, the suit is like pretty intense,

657
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: like it's cool. I like the suit. I don't know,

658
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: maybe maybe maybe I don't like Burt Lar for some

659
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: can I also say something, just one more thing. She

660
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: yells at them to get Dorothy out of that hog pen.

661
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: I wrote this down because I kept cracking up about it.

662
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: Get Doroth the out of that pin before they worry

663
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: themselves into anemia. Oh yeah, and then she's like, hickory,

664
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: I saw you messing with that contraption. She's like, she's

665
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: like she throws to fly yea she is. He's like, okay,

666
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: nasty gal basically girl Boss Girl blesses Meryl Streep and

667
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: double wares. That's anti M. I like any M a

668
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: lot and I but I really do want to know

669
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: if Dorothy ever asked her like, hey, did you look

670
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: for me? Didn't you? And you know, any of them

671
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: could be like, well barely I call you did run away?

672
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 1: To be in my defense, you didn't seem to want

673
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: to be with me. But there that's another that I

674
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: would put on what's the name Professor Marvel where Professor

675
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: Marvel in the in that great scene because I love

676
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: Frank Morgan where you know, he's pretending to be a

677
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: psychic and all this stuff, and then he's like your

678
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: aunt is dying, like go away, and then he sees

679
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: the storm coming and it's like see you later, like

680
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: doesn't have her anyhow, He's like, put a girl, hope

681
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: she makes it drops His weird British accent is like, damn,

682
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: hope she lives, like just it's why. But he's at

683
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: the end too and offers no, right, yeah, and sent

684
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: her out into the twister. Pretty amazing that she didn't

685
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: fucking gets snuffed by this storm. You know, she just

686
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 1: has a severe concussion now, is all. Yeah, But also

687
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: when you see hunk at the end. I'm like, I

688
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: get it. Hunk is a hunk. K is a hunk. Also,

689
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: I know he can tap, So that's just like all

690
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: right now, I know Subliminally you're like, I'm like, yes,

691
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: why aren't you that's his last name, Balger. It's like, yeah,

692
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: you make my pants to you did it. You did

693
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: it in a mad one. Thing that I noticed that

694
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: I didn't quite realize before is that Dorothy effectively dreams

695
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: in three act structure. She has a dream and the

696
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: story that unfolds is like a perfect movie. Why can't

697
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: I dream like that? I hear, I am waste to

698
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: my time getting a master's degree in screenwriting. If I

699
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: could just get hit on the head and fall asleep

700
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: and have a dream about like have a movie in

701
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: a dream, and then I can wake up and be like,

702
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: I'll just write this down, but like, tell us more

703
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: about your master's degree. Yeah, okay. She dreams in three

704
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: acts structure. She also has a dream. We're basically she

705
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: is like the queen in the world. She like kills

706
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: a witch and then the munchkins are like, we're gonna

707
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: make a bust about you. You're going to go down

708
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. What delusions of granderees Dorothy

709
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: have where she's like, you're she's confident in community? Is

710
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: like she's confident. I like that better? Yeah, I said, yeah.

711
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: And then well, and let's talk about the witches too,

712
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: would be remiss to not talk about the witches. Glinda

713
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: the good witch. She's also in charge of sort of everything.

714
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: Everyone's always stoked to see her. She's never particularly helpful,

715
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: sort of just like a wisdom dispense. I will say

716
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 1: with Glinda, she is a bit of an antagonist because

717
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: she when the house dropped on to the east, she

718
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: had the ruby slippers and the wig, just like what

719
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: we will get my sister, And she was like, aren't

720
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: you forgetting something the slippers And she has this look

721
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: in her eye like you can't do anything. And then

722
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: when she goes to get the slippers, they go and

723
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: they're now they're on Dorothy, and she's like, don't worry, Dorothy,

724
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: those shoes on, don't take them off. She must be

725
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: very powerful, she wouldn't want them so badly. She knows

726
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: jus the other question, yeah, she knows the whole time.

727
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is like, you know we

728
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: can wait to the west. I get it, she's a

729
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: bad guy. We don't like her. However, she just lost

730
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: her sister. But did she really want those slippers because

731
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: she knew what those slippers could be? She knew she

732
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: knew that the infinite? And also, how much power are

733
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 1: we putting into accessory? Is that a commentary on something

734
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: never thought about? It? True? But it doesn't have to be.

735
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: You know, women be shopping hot access women be love

736
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: and shoes. I don't know, but I love buying red shoes.

737
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: There's a little secret with myself. Sorry, I mean, what's

738
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: the altern I suppose like a medallion, a necklace of

739
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: some kind. It's always it's always like a piece of yeah,

740
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: and that he's strolling, or a trinket or the ring,

741
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: the ring. Do you think that there's a symbolism of

742
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: Adam and Eve when she goes to pick the apples

743
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: from the apple trees? Interesting? I just thought about that,

744
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh apples. Maybe it's not that's a

745
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: deep sexual allegoria. It was just like, I did not

746
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: consent to you touching my apples, and she's like, aut

747
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: not a word in there, just like, hey, this would

748
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: be funny, right, I was interested like rewatching at this time.

749
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, those tree costumes are really good. Those

750
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, because you're watching it and like high deaf,

751
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: You're like, those tree costumes are still dope and they're

752
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: a little bit scary. And I think the scarecrow in

753
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: the tune man are really great too. I'm the lion too,

754
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: But everything, like the movie is very well done. Shout

755
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: out to Victor Fleming. What a year for him, truly,

756
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: because he also directs Gone with the Wind in the

757
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: same year. Yeah, so this is like, this is his

758
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: fucking year. And was he a good guy? No? Did

759
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: he enjoy directing these movies? No, he said that. He

760
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: said he didn't like it. Well, like every I'm a

761
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: big old Gone with the Wind head as well. Oh yeah,

762
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: when she made that dress out of those curtains. Uh,

763
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: that's the part that we all love as fans well,

764
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: because he was kind of like, sorry he raped his

765
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: wife wild Anyways, it's a different episode in the Wizard

766
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: of Oz. We've got to hand it to them. All

767
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: one gets right. Congrats? Yeah, I mean okay, Victor Fleming

768
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: directs both of these movies. He's not the first chosen

769
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: director for either of these movies, and arguably is kind

770
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: of like a figurehead for both of them. But great

771
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: year for him, great year for Victor Fleming, great year

772
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: for Technicolor. Yeah, I want to go back to Dorothy. Uh. Dorothy,

773
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: as I was sort of mentioning before, she is like

774
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: the driving force of the story. Most of her actions

775
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: influenced the direction of the story takes in some way,

776
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: so she's like very clearly the protagonist. She does have

777
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: to be saved at one point whenever the which captures

778
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: her and locks her in the tower, and she flips

779
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: over an hourglass and she's like, you have this much

780
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: time to live, which mocks her. That's good. She always

781
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: threatening to kill is she like put the dog in

782
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: the river and drown it. Just man, she is. I mean,

783
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: I love her. Are like they do have to come

784
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: in and save her, which is a trope that we

785
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: are always finding. But I would argue, unlike most got

786
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: to save the girl in tower tropes, they probably wouldn't

787
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: have been able to do that had she not infused

788
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: them with a little bit of self worth and self

789
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: confidence beforehand. Would the cowardly lion have gone for it

790
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: if he hadn't met Dorothy and all his new pals first,

791
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: I would say probably, would say probably not that's true something,

792
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: but also Okay, she's a lady going on at her

793
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: own path to get to the wizard, but the witches

794
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: on her own path to get those shoes. So really

795
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: the Witch is kind of the powerful one that doesn't

796
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: need to be saved. I mean, you can look a

797
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: different way. And as if unless I'm forgetting something, everyone

798
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: who works for the Witch is a very large man. Yea.

799
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: The flying monkeys and the winkies. Yeah. Yeah, she has

800
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: an all male workforce who like are contractually obligated to

801
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: shout her praises at all times. They're like little worker

802
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: bees and she's like the queen Bee. Yeah, they all

803
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: secretly wanted to die, but like, hey, that's part of

804
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: being the boss sometimes. Yeah. And then, although it happens

805
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: sort of accidentally, Dorothy does defeat the villain, she throws

806
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: water on the Witch. Yeah yeah, it's like not she

807
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: didn't like like a deliberate effort to be like I'm

808
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: going to defeat you now. She just throws it and

809
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: it accidentally lands on the Witch. But I mean they

810
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: get what they she she sets out to do a thing,

811
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: and then she does it, and the all male workforce

812
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: are more than willing to embrace her as their new leader.

813
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: You're like, well, we're used to women in charge over here,

814
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, you step up now, I think, And she's like,

815
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: I'm busy, I gotta bust going up in munchkin Land.

816
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm in their hall of fame, right, Why can't you

817
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: guys like, how long have you been here? Surely someone

818
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: knows what's going on. Can we talk about the makeover

819
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: sequence of the Yeah, they get to the Emerald Frank

820
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: Morgan plays a great series of characters before we get

821
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 1: to the Wizard, and you know, he's like, go away there,

822
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: no one wants to see you. And then they're like yeah,

823
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: which is weird. But then even that, like you know,

824
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: if that was like an all, that's really the only

825
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: other time we see women in OZ. Besides, you know,

826
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: there's female Munchkins. They're the witches. And then there are

827
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: the people in the Emerald City who do the makeover sequence,

828
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: which I as weird and like, arguably I guess needless

829
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: as it is, I love the makeover sequence? Can you

830
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: even dye my eyes to match my probally good tents.

831
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 1: It's great, it's great. Yeah, and then they're like, take

832
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: out those pigtails, let's do an up do and then

833
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: go meet the Wizard who sucks. He sucks, Yeah, but

834
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: they look great when they Yeah, the Wizard is like,

835
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: he's like the biggest cuck of them all. He like,

836
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: does this whole look fire and Brimstone, I got a

837
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: huge wizard head and I'm this great and all powerful oz.

838
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: It's been there before Power Rangers if they even check Hello.

839
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: And then he turns out to be a total fraud,

840
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: a phony. And then that's a lot of the guys

841
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: in this movie. There's not really a female character who's

842
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: exposed to be a fraud. There are some female characters

843
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: who are very motivated for evil, unless you're like, but

844
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: what if you saw the musical Wicked, which shut up?

845
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: Not the same, it's not the same, Good goodbye. I

846
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, but like, go away for now. I'll see

847
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: the movie when it comes out. Go Away for now? Though, Hey,

848
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: can I say something really dumb that everyone's gonna hate? Huh?

849
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't help but notice some similarities to Harry Potter,

850
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: specifically the houses because here's the thing. The line is

851
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: all about bravery and courage. That's Griffin door tin Man's like,

852
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: I want a heart. That's kind of a huffle puffy Scarecrow.

853
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: He wants a brain brains brainiac raven claw, and then

854
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: I guess the witches Slytherin and then Dorothy for the time,

855
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: fuck Harry Potter. I checked out because I'm not a

856
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: big Harry Potter for like ever, Yeah, that was a

857
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: good time. Well for the family at home who love

858
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: Harry Potterry Potter is ripped off of something great. Well.

859
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: When I was at the Fringe, I walked through the

860
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: graveyard and I did have coffee where J. K. Rowling

861
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: sat cool. But I didn't know that until people were like,

862
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: oh rowning, Like yeah, also, to be fair, just making

863
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: sure my grandma was okay. It's a pure motivation. So

864
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: I took my text and I was like, no, we'll

865
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: get that. Harry part is bad, Caitlyn, It's blot is bad,

866
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: objectively bad. It's it's so I'm sick. I'm all right,

867
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: let's uh. Does anyone have many final thoughts about the movie?

868
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: How women are portrayed in the movie. I do have

869
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: a Harry powder Fall. And it's not mean. It's not

870
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: mean because I know that we argue about that all

871
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: the time. But um, I do think that if we're

872
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: if we're pulling the parallels of like Dorothy and Harry Potter,

873
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: those are both central characters who are the moral core

874
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: of the story, and if you look closely, there's not

875
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: much there. But that's intentional because it's supposed to be like, oh,

876
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: this is the person that the audience is like, this

877
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: is me, I'm the star, you know. So it's like

878
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: just sort of one of those characters where everyone around

879
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: Dorothy is very interesting and very active and very flawed

880
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and then Dorothy is like she's great, um,

881
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: and which I think is kind of the same for

882
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: Harry Potter. And that's I don't know, with the winning formula, Yeah,

883
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: Harry Potter. Don't argue that Harry Potter is an interesting character.

884
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: I'll flip this table. No, I wasn't going to. I

885
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: was gonna say that he is probably the least interesting

886
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: character of all the characters. And but I think it's

887
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: kind of on purpose so that, you know, the least

888
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: you give this person to do besides move through this

889
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: world of more interesting characters. The more little kids were like, Hey,

890
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: that's me, right, because if there's nothing interesting about me either.

891
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: I identify most with the tin Man because I don't

892
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: heard about I don't know how to feel emotions. Man,

893
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: this dude gave everything up for his wife, for his

894
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:04,959
Speaker 1: for his lover. Yeah, she need the man, that's the story.

895
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: That's why he got so arrested. He needed an arm,

896
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: so he chopped off his arm. He needed to live,

897
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: so he worked and he worked and finally got rusted

898
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: and then his wife passed away. That's and that's not

899
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: like you learned that in the book. In the movie too,

900
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: I think right now the movie boils that part down

901
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: by quite a bit. But yeah, the tin Man does

902
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: basically cut off all of his extremities. Exactly why I

903
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: identify with him. I have no limb. She's literally a

904
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: chicken nugget, but we love her. I'm just the head.

905
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: I'm actually the great and powerful oz. I'm just a

906
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: floating head. But I think in the book they also

907
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: say that the Tin Man made a deal with the

908
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: Wicked Witch of the West. Did they, I don't remember.

909
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: I think I remember that like um for the consciousness

910
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: or for the brains. There's something there. What is what

911
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: do the ruby Slippers do besides able you to get

912
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: back to Kansas? The what if that's the only thing

913
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: they can do though, take you specifically back to Kansas.

914
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I guess in the in

915
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: the movie version, I can't. I haven't read the book

916
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: in so long at this point, but I'm sure it's

917
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: And also in the book they're silver slippers, and then

918
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: the movie they turned it to ruby because they're like,

919
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: we've got this book primary, but it is silver slippers

920
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: throughout the books. I don't really know. I mean, we're

921
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: I guess we assumed that there they can do. It's

922
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: like whatever you deeply want the most. The elder one

923
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 1: from Harry Potter, Sorry, what are you talking about? I

924
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: honestly don't know anything. He's he gives it am okay.

925
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: I know there's fans out there who are like Harry Potter,

926
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: tweet at me and we'll join a club. We'll join

927
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: a Harry Potter. Oh. I don't think there's enough Harry

928
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: Potter fans out there. I think that's the real problem.

929
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: That's the problem. There's just aren't a worldwide phenomenon or anything.

930
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess we're

931
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: to believe it would fulfill your deepest desire because that's

932
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: what Dorothy wants more than anything, is to go home.

933
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: So that's all powerful. Yeah, all right, I'll believe it,

934
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: and then Total the most power that like probably the

935
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: least problematic male in the entire movie. He's a whole man.

936
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: He's antona. I mean, there are times where totally, like

937
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: genuinely I forget the specific part, but there are times

938
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: where totally literally like leads the scarecrow and the line

939
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: and the tin man in the right direction and they're like,

940
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: oh wait, let's follow the dog. He's the one who

941
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: um is like playing with the curtain that the action.

942
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's behind and he pulls it across

943
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, don't expose me. Yeah exactly. So

944
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: Total is the protagonist of this story, is what we're saying.

945
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: A smart little guy. He's a smart little guy. He's

946
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: smart dude. Yeah, hey, does the movie past the Bechtel test?

947
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: It sure does, it does. There's a bunch of different scenes,

948
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: starting with the Chicks scene. That was the right way

949
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: I noticed was when Dorothy comes in and it's like, hey,

950
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: this lady is trying to take my dog and she's like,

951
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: shut up, I'm trying to count chicks seventy. I hope

952
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: that that was a hot improvised line, and she was like,

953
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: what's a depressive number of her chicks? And then a

954
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: few scenes later, Dorothy Antim and Miss Cultural talking. Miss

955
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: Culture has come to their house. She's like, give me

956
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: the dog. I'm taking him away. I have an order

957
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: from the sheriff. That's when like Auntie M's like, I

958
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: want to tell you what I think you but I'm

959
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: a Christian woman, so I can't call you. She also

960
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: signed twenty three years is as like any three years?

961
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: That is great improvisation though, right then prophecy and that's depth,

962
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: that's starting from the middle, that's giving a little background.

963
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: We're like, wait, tell us more about twenty did you

964
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: move from WANs a lot of land? You're setting up

965
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: The scene is as Miss calls to their landlord, we

966
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: don't know, well, I don't think so, because she's like,

967
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: just because you own half the county doesn't give you

968
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: the power the rest of us, Oh, the rest of us.

969
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm not owned by you. Also miss calls

970
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: what year is it get a car? If you're a

971
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: landowner or you're riding a bike, maybe he wants the exercise.

972
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: But then where is our She's wearing like a dress

973
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: that could get caught in the bicycle chains. But wait,

974
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: even though this was filmed the nineteen nine may not

975
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: have been set in nineteen because it's a horse in

976
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: a carriage. He's fixing a cart. True, and they live

977
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: the horse free when the tornadoes there, Oh yeah they do,

978
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: and then and then and then even the horse comes

979
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: back and an emerald in the Emerald city. That used

980
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: to be my favorite part of the movie is the

981
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: horse that changes colors, holds of a different color. Talk

982
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: about dip a pet. Yeah, that pet hard. Yeah, they

983
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: had to die those like probably several different horses. I

984
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: remember one time I was watching that movie with all

985
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: my cousins, and my cousin Chloe was like, the horses

986
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: like a mood ring. And we were like, whoa, the

987
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: horses like a mood ring. Just some food for thought

988
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: for all you intellectuals out there. Uh. There's a few

989
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: other scenes where it passes the Bechdel test. Whenever Dorothy

990
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: meets Glinda. She's like, are you a good witch or

991
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: a bad witch? And she's like, witches are old and ugly,

992
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: and she's like, that can't beat rue because I'm beautiful.

993
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm banking hunt her, love her dress. And then the

994
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: Wicked Witch of the West shows up and then they

995
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: I'll talk and she's like, who killed my sister her?

996
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: Was it you? They talk about the ruby slippers. In fact,

997
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: I think when women are talking to each other in

998
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: this movie, it's almost never about a man, unless it's

999
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: about the Wizard or Toto. Toto. Yeah, for viewing Toto

1000
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: as a man, he's male, he's at identifying right they are.

1001
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: They do talk about the Wizard. So let me retract

1002
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: that stupid thing that I said. No, no, no, I mean,

1003
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: but I think that it's ever like a romantic interest,

1004
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: which so you know, this is an unless we're to

1005
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: read in maybe Dorothy has a little crush on Hunk,

1006
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: which I think in this movie world she probably does.

1007
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: If you're dreaming at the end, you're given a nice

1008
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: long hug to the hunk. Figure, who would it? But

1009
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean she's twelve. Towards the end, it passes the

1010
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: beck to test again, Dorothy is in the Witch's castle.

1011
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: She's like, give me back my dog, and she's like

1012
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: give me my fucking slippers and she's like no, all

1013
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: conversations the past, the back to test. So yeah, I

1014
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: mean I think, yeah, I think you're right that almost

1015
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: every exchange between women in this movie, which there are

1016
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: a fair amount of passive actel test and it was

1017
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: nice to like watch it with that in mind and

1018
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: be like, oh, you know, it passes as well as

1019
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: I would hope it would. It passes better than The Women,

1020
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: which does not pass the factel test amazingly. Wait did

1021
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: does it? There are very small exchanges where they're not

1022
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: talking about high but there You're right. There wasn't a

1023
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: single man on screen the entire movie, which is amazing. Yeah,

1024
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: but also they're never not talking about, ever not talking

1025
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: about It's crazy. I'll give it another shot, but I

1026
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: don't think i'll ever like it anyway. Um let's write

1027
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: a Wizard of Oz on our nipple scale. We uh

1028
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: write the movie on a scale of zero to five

1029
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: nipples based on its portrayal of women. I'm going to

1030
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: give it five nipples. Dorothy, I think is a strong character,

1031
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: especially considering the time, very iconic female protagonist then in

1032
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: this movie is like the test of time, and she's

1033
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: in our logo for crying out like she is in

1034
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: our logo. Yeah, illustrated by our very own Jamie Loftus.

1035
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: I just picked the ones I liked. She drives the story.

1036
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: She's making a lot of decisions. She does have to

1037
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: be saved, but as you pointed out, would the people

1038
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: who saved her have the tools to even do so

1039
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: if she had not empowered them in the first place.

1040
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: That's a great example of setting yourself up on the

1041
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: back end so that when you're in a fucking spot,

1042
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: you're like, well, at least I trained these people to

1043
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Speaker 1: rescue me. Yeah. And then the other female characters, they're

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01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: you know, they're distinct, they're in charge of stuff, they're

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01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: making that they're doing their own stuff. They can count

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01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: to seventy at least least, but she kept counting put

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01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: them in a half. Uncle Henry meanwhile, I was like,

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01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: I didn't graduate past the sixth grade. I don't. He's

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01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I mean, especially compared to the men

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01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: in the story, a lot of them are beta males.

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01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: A lot of them have like get a beta male

1052
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: counter on this how many time betas on the brain.

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01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: A lot of them are like, you know, subordinates of

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01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: a woman who's in power, Give me your subordinates. This

1055
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: is I think pretty sure what's written on the statue

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01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: of so Yeah, I'm gonna say it's five five nipples,

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01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: and they all belong to the cowardly lion because he

1058
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: is a feline with I think cats have I like it. Yeah, cat,

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01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: that's a They might even have eight, like even the boys.

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01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: All boys have nipples. All embryos start out but six

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01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: as female, and then as we learn in Jurassic Park,

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01:02:55,720 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: there's but six. I think six for boys too. I'm

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01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: gonna look it up. NTO, I say it's a five

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01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: nipple cast around. I feel like I've argued my points,

1065
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: and even when she needed to be rescued, it was

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01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: still being rescued from a woman who wanted the shoes

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01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: back for infinite power. True. Okay, here we go, eight

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01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: eight nips. I like that. The picture is a cat

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01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: with a banana nipples. Google how many nipples does a

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01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: cat have? And then in like a very large fun

1071
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: eight nipples, and then a photo with a cat someone

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01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: holding a banana to the cat to entice it and

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Speaker 1: all eight of its nipples. I give this movie eight nipples. No,

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01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: I give it. I give it five nipples too. I mean,

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01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: I think especially for I mean, if you're going on

1076
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: the yardstick of nine, if we're going on the yardstick

1077
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: of Mickey Rooney's Sir Killer, which would not pass the

1078
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: factial test because it is Mickey Rooney's Weeney World. But

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01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, this whole story does a great job

1080
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: of empowering its female characters, almost as a bonus. It's like,

1081
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: and all the men are flawed in one way or another,

1082
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: and that's that's fun, but all the female characters are great.

1083
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: And give it five nips. And give two nips to

1084
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: the Wicked Witch of the East, because we don't get

1085
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: to see her nips. We get to see everyone has

1086
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: a nips, just her feet. We get to see so

1087
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: many nips in I'll give two of those nips to

1088
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: Judy Garland's bound down nips. So she looked a little

1089
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: more twelve, but she didn't look twelve, so it's almost

1090
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: just like, let her nips go free. And then I'll

1091
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: give one nip to the line even though apparently he

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01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: had seven others. Great Hey, ever, This has been a

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01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: delight so much. Thank you so much here and talking

1094
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: about this movie with us. Do you have anything you'd

1095
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: like to plug? Where can people find you online? You

1096
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 1: can find me online at ever Maynard, emmy I and

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Speaker 1: a r D dot com. You can find me on

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01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: Twitter at ever Maynard, Instagram at ever Maynard Facebook at

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Speaker 1: a Remaynard Snapchat. Butthole Snapper sixty nine that we almost

1100
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Speaker 1: had full synchronicity and then we had snapchat. Um, when

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Speaker 1: does this go up? This will go up mid June. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you can catch me and Caitlyn will be there too

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Speaker 1: for Maynard Town the next edition and and um, hell yes,

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01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 1: if you live in Los Angeles, come to the nerd

1105
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: Mount show room. Ever Maynard puts on a show called

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01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: Maynard to improvised town hall meeting. I play the safety

1107
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: patrol officer, self appointed, self appointed, talk about an empowered

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01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: female care No one's gonna put me in charge. I'll

1109
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: put myself, put Caitlan in a corner. It's dangerous there. Cool. Well,

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01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: we're off to see the Wizard. Well, anyways, thank you

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01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: for having me, because thank you so much. It's been

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Speaker 1: a real my card Limonde that we own we are

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Speaker 1: good night, bye bye,