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Speaker 1: your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holley, and Shannon Gross,
Speaker 1: let's go hanging with the boy. That's right, you're gonna live.
Speaker 1: Look at the Tostitos Championship what it called Tostitos Championship
Speaker 1: field Plaza whatever. What the temperature is sixty one degree
Speaker 1: for the high, thirty nine for the low. Look at
Speaker 1: out there the Christmas ex driver against is going on.
Speaker 1: Kurt Daniels, Shannon Gross, Nick Newton, going in here. I
Speaker 1: am Jesse, Holly, Kurt. How are you doing today? Brother,
Speaker 1: great man, great, very glad to be here. Absolute, how
Speaker 1: good I'm I'm in the words of my co co
Speaker 1: host over there, I'm crunk you crunk yea please? You
Speaker 1: know what man? Nate, Nate first, how are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. I'm excited. We fit to beat the
Speaker 1: guarantee this week. I guarantee it's gonna be an exciting game.
Speaker 1: I got wrong. He's not gonna jump out of that can. No,
Speaker 1: because this is this kid first time. This is uh
Speaker 1: the young Gunslinger, first time playing against his team. Man,
Speaker 1: I ain't going against that. I hope he'd be so
Speaker 1: excited to he throw like three of us options, who
Speaker 1: my homes. This is the first time we've ever played
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. We just man and playing in the
Speaker 1: last three Super Bowls and Dallas coming to town, and yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it may shake you just a little bit. That's star Jeff,
Speaker 1: that's baby. Okay, Yes, sir, come on, man, you ain't
Speaker 1: you know what? You know what? Man? I just made
Speaker 1: start crying today because I'm so hyped and so emotional
Speaker 1: about this thing. Man, anybody got in them down to
Speaker 1: the pills that you take you back. You've been hanging up.
Speaker 1: You've been handling on Michael Irvin. He was crying the
Speaker 1: other day. Now you want to cry today. He was crying.
Speaker 1: Mike was crying for other reasons, but as off, what's up? Fellas,
Speaker 1: what's up? What's up? Shan? I saw you down there
Speaker 1: talking to people, and I'm hoidly like, come on, because
Speaker 1: Jessing like, no, I don't don't bring it. I want
Speaker 1: to do the trustito plasta, don't bring it And I'm
Speaker 1: like no, no, And that's it was, What did you think, Kurt?
Speaker 1: Whatever Jesse wants? So see, I knew he was I knew.
Speaker 1: I knew he was getting ready. That's why I looked
Speaker 1: at you. I knew where he was going. He was
Speaker 1: gonna try to throw us always do. Okay, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can barely talk to you. What's going on your
Speaker 1: voice there? Every year when the yellow know when the
Speaker 1: when the when the weather changes every year when the
Speaker 1: weather goes from cold like hot to cold. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: get this post nasal drip and it messes my throat up.
Speaker 1: I don't. It doesn't feel bad at all. It just
Speaker 1: it just I guess gets my vocal cords all jack
Speaker 1: and started started getting bad yesterday, so I should have
Speaker 1: known it was gonna be cold today. But yeah, it started.
Speaker 1: I started losing the voice last night. So hopefully make
Speaker 1: it through the show. I got new love. If not,
Speaker 1: I guess Jesse, I got new love. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: all about it, baby, Shannon. Shannon said, it ain't a
Speaker 1: lot of guys that Shannon like. But I found out
Speaker 1: last night that Tyrone. Crawford is one of his favorites.
Speaker 1: Shannon showed up early to the show right well, going
Speaker 1: at seven. He showed her about six his boy rolling
Speaker 1: about sixteen because we rolled in with him, Crawford and
Speaker 1: he's excuse me, nay, me and my buck Crawf and
Speaker 1: the gonna have a quiet dinner. I said, yeah, So
Speaker 1: when we thought that we were wait wait, yeah, we
Speaker 1: thought that we were. Yeah, you have a late dinner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now your throat hurt. It wasn't a late dinner.
Speaker 1: It was an early dinner. And I went home right
Speaker 1: after Lizzie glad the work last time. Don't even put
Speaker 1: that out I don't wit you don't even put that
Speaker 1: out there. But I'm just saying, I'm joking. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's the guy. Man. Know how he got so close?
Speaker 1: How is that close? When he came? You know what,
Speaker 1: cain't a lot of me, and I think that that
Speaker 1: could whoop your ass. But he's one of them. So
Speaker 1: you're talking to me, but you affiliate with He's a Canadian.
Speaker 1: He's a Canadian. He wants he wants no beef with anybody.
Speaker 1: He's a Canadian, you know. He said, Yeah, I saw
Speaker 1: the video. He don't want to beef with nobody. You
Speaker 1: just get up. When he got stabbed a couple of times,
Speaker 1: nobody now he So when he came into league, that
Speaker 1: was about the time we started social media, and that
Speaker 1: was before anybody had social media, and he was you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't I didn't ask players to do anything. It's all.
Speaker 1: It's completely changed now, but that was when you didn't
Speaker 1: really go on the football side and you didn't talk
Speaker 1: to players and you didn't do all this. And he
Speaker 1: you put him on the cover of the Star magazine
Speaker 1: his rookie year. Got in trouble for that, I think later,
Speaker 1: but uh, you put him on the cover and um,
Speaker 1: and I wound up getting some extra ones and I
Speaker 1: saw him one day. I was like, hey, you want
Speaker 1: to send some of these back home. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: how many can you give me? I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'll go see and I think I gave
Speaker 1: him like twelve or something, and just me giving him
Speaker 1: those magazines, well, I sent him back to Canada to
Speaker 1: his mom and everything, and like ever since then, like
Speaker 1: he was my friend and he was like probably the
Speaker 1: first player that I was ever like friends with. And
Speaker 1: then he you know, his mom came into a MAVs
Speaker 1: game and I ran into him in the in the
Speaker 1: club and said high to him, and then wound up
Speaker 1: just really becoming friends with him, like in the building
Speaker 1: and then kind of spilled over him to anytime I
Speaker 1: need somebody do something, he would do it. And then
Speaker 1: and he's a really good guy, Like he's like that
Speaker 1: that whole thing in Florida was because somebody was jacking
Speaker 1: with his brother. Yeah yeah, yeah, And it was like
Speaker 1: and just knowing him and his mom and his background
Speaker 1: and the trouble that he had growing up and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. He just he's just a good He's a
Speaker 1: solid dude. And I like solid people, Like if you're
Speaker 1: a solid person, like if you're a crappy person, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: you're trying not to say it, but I said, I'm
Speaker 1: a lot of things. I'm a lot of things. I'm
Speaker 1: a lot of things, but a ton of things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we get, there's a list, there's a long crappy persons.
Speaker 1: Now I'm a solid dude. You I used to be
Speaker 1: a crappy person. Did you live for I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: me say this. I live for that. I did when
Speaker 1: I first like first first met Nate, Like Nate was
Speaker 1: a rude yeah man, yes, sob yes, Like when did
Speaker 1: you meet him years ago? Years ago? Yeah, we knew then,
Speaker 1: but like that was and even their fourth and long
Speaker 1: was very minimal interaction. He came in like you know,
Speaker 1: if you know Nate, Nate comes in, does his job.
Speaker 1: He ain't sticking around you now, but like there are
Speaker 1: my planet. Nate was very just crude and just too straightforward.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I was. See and when I see crapping
Speaker 1: people now, I'd be like, I hope you change because
Speaker 1: if you don't, ain't no good ending for those types.
Speaker 1: When when did you change? You start being different when
Speaker 1: I when I when I went through the bad time
Speaker 1: bed spell in my life right after the Cowboys, right,
Speaker 1: I have to deal with my ex wife, you know,
Speaker 1: got into all that serious trouble. Then when I came out,
Speaker 1: I was different. You know. I thank God for sparing
Speaker 1: me because the only thing was covering me because I
Speaker 1: burnt down almost every bridge, you know, and even the
Speaker 1: people that liked me used to just be kind of
Speaker 1: like just looking at me like they didn't know how
Speaker 1: to take me. So when I started my role back, man,
Speaker 1: I gave my life to christ Man, I just said,
Speaker 1: you know what, enough of causing trouble being trouble. I mean,
Speaker 1: it would be so bad if I walked in this room,
Speaker 1: everybody would just get quiet and this show would not
Speaker 1: go on because I would find a way to wreck it.
Speaker 1: And I ain't talking me in the jawful way of
Speaker 1: trying to just have fun. I'm talking I would you
Speaker 1: think Charles was man? Charles cannot touch me at Charles
Speaker 1: cannot touch me. I'm serious. And anybody that knew me,
Speaker 1: it was only a few people that could talk to me,
Speaker 1: Mike Irv and Dion Sounders and maybe Troy, but he
Speaker 1: would come at here to come at me ugly, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Emmett just stayed away, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't gonna be controlled man, And I was.
Speaker 1: I was a crappy person. And that those people, I
Speaker 1: promise you meet an ugly end. Even they die in
Speaker 1: they sleep, they're gonna meet the ugly end. So when
Speaker 1: you're gonna change Kurt, you want me to get ugly.
Speaker 1: They love spicy Kurt, Yeah, they love spicy. I'm waiting
Speaker 1: on my you know, I'm waiting on my apology. I'm
Speaker 1: waiting for that young lady to call and get my
Speaker 1: apology for a suggested to apologize for. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a long tow long. I don't know how many years
Speaker 1: you got left, but you're going to exalt all them
Speaker 1: years tomorrow. She needs to call the show tomorrow. What's
Speaker 1: her name, Fox, Fox, pep, something like that. Call the
Speaker 1: show tomorrow. We'll open up the phone line for you.
Speaker 1: Five two two nine seven Man. Good people, Yeah, stay
Speaker 1: around good people. And honestly, I think that's why our
Speaker 1: show is so successful because we have four good nots
Speaker 1: and the other shows don't have good people. But we
Speaker 1: got four good, solid dudes who just love life. Who
Speaker 1: we got Chris, No, I'm playing Chris, Don't, I'm playing? Now?
Speaker 1: We got? We got five solid dudes on our show Man,
Speaker 1: and we just love life. We love life and experienced life,
Speaker 1: and we just we we enjoy the We enjoy being joy, right,
Speaker 1: we enjoy giving joy. We enjoy that part of it.
Speaker 1: We're givers. And so that's why people just relate to
Speaker 1: our show so much, because they're just like, it's the
Speaker 1: drunk uncle, it's the you know, it's the it's the
Speaker 1: crazy one it's the sensible one, it's the quiet one.
Speaker 1: We just we we hit so many different emotions in
Speaker 1: people's lives that they can relate to. We're the most
Speaker 1: relatable show. And the shirts shirts searched. Yeah you go,
Speaker 1: that's a yeah. And I feel like we've all in
Speaker 1: our and not a whole We don't know a whole
Speaker 1: lot about your past, Kurt, but like he's a punk rocker.
Speaker 1: He's a rocker. He's a rocker. It's a rock but
Speaker 1: we I feel like we've all been through we didn't
Speaker 1: take the easy way here, Like we all got here
Speaker 1: through a series of events that we probably never will
Speaker 1: understand or no why, but we wound up working for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys one Yeah, and two on this show together.
Speaker 1: And like a lot of shows, like I don't I
Speaker 1: haven't been on a whole lot of other shows, but
Speaker 1: I feel like when the mic goes off, like it's
Speaker 1: like okay, bye, right, Like we actually go do stuff
Speaker 1: we don't we don't do it often enough, but like
Speaker 1: we go do stuff with each other. We support each other,
Speaker 1: Like our text chain is our our group. You know
Speaker 1: what I've gotten off the chain, y'all. It's hilarious that
Speaker 1: two nights ago nine, my wife said, baby, who is that?
Speaker 1: I say, don't ring that. I get the I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's either Jess Shannon because Curtie's gone to bed. You
Speaker 1: met him? You you have I met her? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: but you know I'm gonna tell you something. That's what
Speaker 1: you call her. But we we can talk about us
Speaker 1: all we want, man, but I promise you we need
Speaker 1: to go to KC. Man, we need to just load
Speaker 1: up right now, go to case Bro. Something big for them.
Speaker 1: We either gonna blow these dudes out. We made lose
Speaker 1: by half a point. Were either gonna blow these dudes
Speaker 1: out and what I call a blowout if we may
Speaker 1: beat him by seven points. You think you can blow
Speaker 1: these guys out or they might have to have a
Speaker 1: bad day on offense, right, Yeah, they're not to have
Speaker 1: a bad day because that that kid, that kid along
Speaker 1: with his offensive coordinator and kid coach, they they they special. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what makes him so good that my homes Is it
Speaker 1: because he extends the players? It just because he can
Speaker 1: make every single throw? Or is he smart? He is?
Speaker 1: He is a he is a combination of it all.
Speaker 1: If you say ABC and then dB, all of the
Speaker 1: above he's all of the above, because most times you'll say, okay,
Speaker 1: well this kid has a crazy strong arm, right, but
Speaker 1: he's not athletic, right. Or you say, well, he's super smart,
Speaker 1: but he can't make all the throws, so he gotta
Speaker 1: pick throws, you know, he gotta make And then you say, man,
Speaker 1: you know this guy is athletic, but he can't throw
Speaker 1: a lick. You know what I'm saying. You can say
Speaker 1: that's Lamar Jackson or guys like Cam New, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: This dude is all of the above. He's smart, like y'all.
Speaker 1: Remember he took the league by storm, and after that
Speaker 1: season he said, yeah, I can't really read defenses like
Speaker 1: he After his first year, he's like, yeah, it took
Speaker 1: me a little while to understand what I was looking at.
Speaker 1: He's like, wait what he had like forty five times?
Speaker 1: You know what He's like, Well, yeah, I didn't understand that.
Speaker 1: I didn't read defense much in college, so when I
Speaker 1: got to the league, I was kind of still trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how to read a defense. So he's
Speaker 1: intelligent enough, he's athletic enough. He he can make every
Speaker 1: single throw and then he can throw with his left
Speaker 1: hand too. Right. So it's like, then you couple that
Speaker 1: with the mad science scientists genius of Andy Reid and
Speaker 1: and arb me that combination when your officeive coordinator have
Speaker 1: to tell your head coach, come on, man, that's enough
Speaker 1: when your office a coordinated to tear your head coach. Man,
Speaker 1: I know you just saw what ye tell did. So
Speaker 1: what's the key? Do you you pressure him? Do you
Speaker 1: drop more men back? How do you how did you
Speaker 1: battle this guy? No? You gotta go get them. You
Speaker 1: gotta go get them because the more time you give him,
Speaker 1: the harder it is on your back end. Um And
Speaker 1: what I mean, wow, you know as soon as you
Speaker 1: say this defensive secondary, the more time than pressure they get.
Speaker 1: You don't defend him, Nate, don't defend, but you gotta
Speaker 1: go get Patrick Mahomes because and Mike McCarthy mentioned it.
Speaker 1: It said, you know it has to be in sync
Speaker 1: because I don't care who you are. I really don't
Speaker 1: care who you are. You can't cover for four or
Speaker 1: five seconds, not with that speed. And they all got
Speaker 1: speed on that team, from the tight end to the
Speaker 1: third fourth receiver. So you give Patrick Mahomes, who has
Speaker 1: the ability to throw any pass ten yards fifteen yards,
Speaker 1: forty yards, sixty yards on the run. You give him time.
Speaker 1: There's nothing that Digs Brown, Lewis, Kaze jk not they
Speaker 1: can do. It's just you just can't cover that long.
Speaker 1: So the best bet is to get after him, make
Speaker 1: him take his eyes off field. But you gotta get
Speaker 1: home because if you don't, and that and that that,
Speaker 1: those secondary players relax. And we've seen it. If you watched,
Speaker 1: if you watched enough Kennas City Chiefs games, film highlights, whatever,
Speaker 1: you think, the player is over and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hiller sixty yards downfield doing this to you, and
Speaker 1: it's touchdown. So it's it's for the most part, you
Speaker 1: gotta get after him. You gotta get after him and
Speaker 1: throw the timing off because a lot of what they do,
Speaker 1: those home run plays, takes a little bit of time
Speaker 1: to develop. So if you get after him and and
Speaker 1: and dirty him up a little bit, now he doesn't
Speaker 1: the timing is off, the system is off. Now they
Speaker 1: can crack you in the head at any point in time,
Speaker 1: but more often than not, you get him off, timing
Speaker 1: off schedule. That helps you out as far as covering
Speaker 1: that speed on the on the back. It's a route
Speaker 1: just Tyreek Hills deep over. Yeah, that's that's him the depot.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying he ran a route where he ran
Speaker 1: like five or six yards up, but he turned and
Speaker 1: went five and six yards in and then he went
Speaker 1: out up into the corner. What route is that called?
Speaker 1: So they called a multitude of things because it's set
Speaker 1: up off his deep over right. So what that's what
Speaker 1: they like to run. So he'll run in up and
Speaker 1: then he'll just say my speed and your speed to
Speaker 1: the sideline right, and you can't win. So he'll go
Speaker 1: in up, and then they call a deep return route okay, okay,
Speaker 1: And so he'll start going like he's doing that deep
Speaker 1: over and all of a sudden, you like, I gotta go. Now,
Speaker 1: you get on that horse and you start going. He goes,
Speaker 1: and then he's going back that way. But again that
Speaker 1: route takes time. He got to go in up and
Speaker 1: he got to sell it for five or six yards
Speaker 1: to get you to sell it in the safety to go,
Speaker 1: and then I come back the opposite way. If you
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback ross like that can't be accomplished.
Speaker 1: The dude thirty five for the Raiders came up, missed
Speaker 1: his jam, got over, extending while he was on his route.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about everybody can run that route because number one,
Speaker 1: everybody don't have this speed, and number two, he can cut.
Speaker 1: He's one of the few blazers that can cut. He
Speaker 1: cut on the diamond, went back out. The dude was behind.
Speaker 1: You could just see the dude straining. I'm like, and
Speaker 1: if he wouldn't have just ran out of bounds, right, So,
Speaker 1: how do you do we have anybody and keep up
Speaker 1: with him? I would Anthony Brown is the fastest, keep
Speaker 1: trying to tell him. I would put an Anthony. I
Speaker 1: would back Anthony, do not jam. Do not try. I
Speaker 1: figured you'd say jam him because if you miss this over,
Speaker 1: that's what that dude that route, he gonna take this
Speaker 1: his main route away from him. And then when he
Speaker 1: went to turn to get on his horse, he cut
Speaker 1: back out and he had to stop, turn around and
Speaker 1: try to that's design because that type of speed automatically
Speaker 1: put you on high alert. Yeah, and when you miss
Speaker 1: it automatically put you in a panic. And once you
Speaker 1: once a dB is in a panic, you're done. You
Speaker 1: can't function well. And the reason why they get and
Speaker 1: here's where Travis Kelsey comes into play because they run
Speaker 1: those routes and everyone's lifted. And then now Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 1: he's just in that ten or twelve yard range with
Speaker 1: nothing but space if you look at a lot of
Speaker 1: his yards. And I was watching him a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you what. Let's go to break
Speaker 1: because I want to spend a lot of time on
Speaker 1: him because I got some questions about Okay, take our break,
Speaker 1: and when we come back, let's talk about Travis Kelsey
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Speaker 1: So all right, So my question about Kelsey is, since
Speaker 1: you're going down that road, is he one of those
Speaker 1: Is he a Jimmy Graham kind of guy where if
Speaker 1: he was in a different offense, he would be good,
Speaker 1: but he wouldn't be near the guy? Is he is
Speaker 1: he Kelsey because of what they able to do by
Speaker 1: taking the top off of that, and then you got
Speaker 1: a mobile quarterback in Mahomes or would he be top
Speaker 1: three guy no matter where he went in the NFL?
Speaker 1: Because you've seen that a couple of times. You've seen
Speaker 1: a couple of guys that had moved and just like
Speaker 1: they were, they were a product of the system and
Speaker 1: then they didn't perform anything like that. And in the
Speaker 1: tight end position, this dude can block, he's mean, and
Speaker 1: he can catch that rock, he can get, he can
Speaker 1: body up. It would take a dumb offensive coordinator, a
Speaker 1: dumb head coach not to realize what his kid is. Jesse,
Speaker 1: you got to flow in this seasons before Mahomes got there.
Speaker 1: He had over a thousand yards in two thousand and
Speaker 1: sixteen or one thousand yards. I think. I don't think
Speaker 1: Mahomes really started till two thousand and eighteen, So he
Speaker 1: had two thousand yard campaigns before Mahomes really became the starter.
Speaker 1: And then what's he done after an eight hundred before that?
Speaker 1: And then he said three straight one thousand yard campaigns
Speaker 1: with Mahomes and let the league, let the entire league
Speaker 1: in receiving yards a year ago. Yet fourteen hundred, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: fourteen hundred read off his read off his yards starting
Speaker 1: with twenty seventeen seventeen, he had one thousand and thirty
Speaker 1: eight and one thousand, three and thirty six, one thousand,
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty nine, one thousand, four hundred and
Speaker 1: sixteen and he's still passing. You can get two, you
Speaker 1: can get two hundred of yards to to read. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now put that into context. Jason Witten played sixteen season,
Speaker 1: seventeen seasons. I think Whitton had two, two, three, maybe
Speaker 1: one thousand yards seasons. Kelsey's eighth this year and receiving yards,
Speaker 1: a's a tight end, it's a running that thing cross
Speaker 1: there allows him to make stra running after catch yards,
Speaker 1: you know, but about two hundred of them yards just
Speaker 1: because he running streaking cross that. What does that? What
Speaker 1: does that do? Does that allow him to be one
Speaker 1: on one? Does that make a linebacker cover him? Like?
Speaker 1: Why does why is Tarik taking the top off make
Speaker 1: him that much more dangerous? Tarik Nicole Hardman when they
Speaker 1: had Sammy Watkins. Yeah, because the first thing you're taught
Speaker 1: as a safety or dB is don't give up the
Speaker 1: big play. Don't let anybody behind you, let anybody behind you.
Speaker 1: So now when you when you when you cut the table,
Speaker 1: one thing is visible when you cut the nit Kansas
Speaker 1: City offense. It ain't none but speed all across the board.
Speaker 1: So now there's another heightened awareness of I'm already taught
Speaker 1: in Nate in me to not give up the big
Speaker 1: play and you know, not get beat with speed. Then
Speaker 1: now all I'm facing a speed, So everybody is like, man,
Speaker 1: were getting back, We're getting back. So when you get back,
Speaker 1: I take one of the most athletic tight ends in
Speaker 1: the league, and now I match him up on the
Speaker 1: the linebackers, maybe your big nickel safety. And the thing
Speaker 1: that I've noticed over the last couple of weeks, and
Speaker 1: you can go back and you can watch film, watch
Speaker 1: this little subtlety that Travis Kelsey does when he most
Speaker 1: of his receptions, if you look at receptions, they're eighty
Speaker 1: five percent of them, they're over the center area right
Speaker 1: give or take a yard, you know, give or take
Speaker 1: a couple of yards either way. He does this little
Speaker 1: thing where once he post up, like you know, throw
Speaker 1: me the ball. As the ball is coming, he begins
Speaker 1: this little turn. Now it is it goes against everything
Speaker 1: that you're taught as a receiver, right to start turning
Speaker 1: before you got the ball. That's why he has six
Speaker 1: drops this year. It is because he is concentration, hasn't allay,
Speaker 1: hasn't all been there. But he does this little subtleties
Speaker 1: and it's it's he's turning as the ball is coming.
Speaker 1: And you see him turn and he's like this, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like anything, but here's what it does.
Speaker 1: When I have a linebacker who's screaming down or a
Speaker 1: safety who's screaming down, those guys are a c man
Speaker 1: hit man. So they're hitting it. They're they're going to
Speaker 1: hit a stationary target. By the time the ball actually
Speaker 1: gets there and that dB actually gets to that station
Speaker 1: every man he's no longer stationary and just this sub
Speaker 1: movement of you not getting a full man to hit
Speaker 1: when you go when you were going at that full
Speaker 1: man and you just may catch the half back, you know,
Speaker 1: back end of my shoulders or whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: He breaks so many tackles and the first guy always
Speaker 1: miss because he turns left, he turns right, and now
Speaker 1: he's already heading up field as you're coming down field
Speaker 1: to make the tackle, and he's breaking so many tackles
Speaker 1: and he's getting the yack yards, and where it's effective
Speaker 1: is at well, remember Tyreek Hills already taking the rest
Speaker 1: of those guys twenty five yards down the field. So
Speaker 1: if he catches it at fifteen and the rest of
Speaker 1: those guys are twenty five, there's ten yards of space
Speaker 1: where now he's getting the yack yards. He's picking up
Speaker 1: blocks down field, and now everybody's rallying to that. And
Speaker 1: so that's the key thing when you look at how
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey really eats, he eats over the middle of
Speaker 1: everybody's he does his little soul turning. He's catching the ball,
Speaker 1: breaks the first tackle almost all the time, whether safety
Speaker 1: or a linebacker, and he's picking up six, eight, ten.
Speaker 1: And then when they really get into a good groove
Speaker 1: thirty forty yards down the field because everybody's lifted up
Speaker 1: from the from the from the speed, and then he's
Speaker 1: picking up blocks along the way. You know what's amazing
Speaker 1: is And I was telling some of the guys him
Speaker 1: the other show. They you can change the running backs,
Speaker 1: you can get other wide receivers, but it's two guys
Speaker 1: that's gonna beat you with this quarterback. And he just
Speaker 1: talked about both. So they coach Andy Reid and Eric
Speaker 1: b Anderman is so good as scheming and working off
Speaker 1: what they have. It's just ridiculous. It's it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I mean a new offensive line, virtually a new offensive line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and they're doing it man, and and everybody else.
Speaker 1: We you know, everybody's got three receivers. Great running back,
Speaker 1: this dad another this dude's been working with the same
Speaker 1: two cats and his quarterback and man, you know great
Speaker 1: the great Randy Galloway. You always say it's all about
Speaker 1: the quarterback. And I used to be fight him every inch.
Speaker 1: You know what it's all about the quarterback? Who would
Speaker 1: you who would you put on Kelsey? Would you put
Speaker 1: JK on him? Yeah? I would put size persons man
Speaker 1: I would put no, no, no, You're gonna need Parsons.
Speaker 1: You're gonna need Parsons to still be a Roman guy. Pressure. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you get pressure, be a Roman guy. They're gonna
Speaker 1: try to run the football with Williams a little bit,
Speaker 1: and you know the young Frank Gore's son, and and
Speaker 1: and and Mkisson, So they're gonna you're gonna need You're
Speaker 1: gonna need you know, you're gonna need him to be
Speaker 1: in that position. But also I think this is one
Speaker 1: of those games as well when you add him to
Speaker 1: that mix of Russias, get him into that mix of rushers,
Speaker 1: because he's probably with no Randy, no tank, he might
Speaker 1: be the only one. Honestly, he might be the only
Speaker 1: one that is big enough, strong enough, fast enough, athletic
Speaker 1: enough to run down Patrick Mahomes. Because Patrick could get
Speaker 1: back there and he'll start doing all this hurkey jerky stuff.
Speaker 1: Mike is probably one of the only ones that can
Speaker 1: go is athletic enough to put his foot in the
Speaker 1: ground and stop and turn down and run him down.
Speaker 1: Does Mahomes Does he run a lot? I know he
Speaker 1: scrambles a lot. I know he extends play. He's like
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage. Does he does he run
Speaker 1: for a lot of yards or is it all extending
Speaker 1: to play behind? It's both, he does both. He wants
Speaker 1: to extend it, but he'll he'll drop back and and
Speaker 1: you know he'll let he'll let those tackles take those
Speaker 1: guys up field, and you'll see him step up in
Speaker 1: that pocket. And while he's stepping up, he's like this.
Speaker 1: And again you got Travis kelce Hilver here, Tyry Kill
Speaker 1: over there, mcole Harmon over there, and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: what do I do? You know? What do I? What
Speaker 1: do I do? He's like this. The next thing you know,
Speaker 1: he'll take off and pick up a first down or
Speaker 1: you'll go I'm gonna get him. He'll go He'll look
Speaker 1: this way and go yeah, no, look over there and
Speaker 1: to a guy, you know, do you vacate that area?
Speaker 1: He'll throw it in there behind your head. The thing
Speaker 1: about him, if you go back, because I was talking
Speaker 1: about it, you go back that first Super Bowl they won,
Speaker 1: and look at him many time. I think he averaged
Speaker 1: maybe fifty yards rushing the game because he needed to know,
Speaker 1: he needed to He knew that it was taking his
Speaker 1: players time to get done what they need to be done.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing about when you play in the
Speaker 1: big games like that, where teams are does does have
Speaker 1: skilled position players that can hold up just the minimal
Speaker 1: amount of time. And I mean, like Jes said, nobody
Speaker 1: can hold him three, four or five seconds, but you
Speaker 1: do have corners that in a playoff situation, a big
Speaker 1: game situation, they can hold up a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: So you know, and you got deep his linement that
Speaker 1: can get to him, and I hope we got enough
Speaker 1: to keep the rotation fresh. Yeah, he's got two twenty
Speaker 1: seven yards scrambling this year, so not a ton, but
Speaker 1: enough to hurt you. Six point one yards enough to
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Speaker 1: at a fanatics experience. So okay, sorry, but you want
Speaker 1: a good omen maybe good olmen for this weekend. But
Speaker 1: love one or Texas uh um legend or Texas. I
Speaker 1: don't know what you want to call them. But Waterburger
Speaker 1: just opened their first store in Kansas City on Monday?
Speaker 1: Did they really? We're invading? We're coming, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go. We're going to dinner at Q thirty nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a great place to good spot. You know why
Speaker 1: Waterburger opened a store in Kansas City? Home Holmes requested, yeah,
Speaker 1: are you kidding? When he signed his big con for
Speaker 1: the universities, Like I love Waterburger. It's like his favorite player.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? So somebody want to responsors? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got about four or five more going in there.
Speaker 1: They're not as big of a sponsor as Wingstop and
Speaker 1: seen this. We need to wing drop. We to have
Speaker 1: wings out here on the block. Yeah, man, it's covid.
Speaker 1: Do we have new management at the wings stock Covid.
Speaker 1: I need to get us some wings. And what's her name?
Speaker 1: What was it? What was the young lady name that
Speaker 1: had the dunkin donuts? Margot will Um? I don't remember.
Speaker 1: We had the donut lady and we had the wing lady. Yeah. Remember,
Speaker 1: we need to get those back. I need to get
Speaker 1: them back. Oh we had Ah, we need to have
Speaker 1: these sponsors that we really. Tyrone was on the show
Speaker 1: last night. I got to ask y'all a question because
Speaker 1: they made a big deal out of it on a
Speaker 1: fan This morning, Troy Hughes was on with us and he, uh,
Speaker 1: would you guys? Tyrone said he's going to the game.
Speaker 1: He'll be at the game this weekend and he said
Speaker 1: he didn't hadn't decided if he's gonna wear his d
Speaker 1: Law jersey or his Anthony Hitchins jersey or you know,
Speaker 1: I made them no Cowboys Anthony Hitchings, and I said
Speaker 1: you should get one of those that's kind of cut
Speaker 1: down the middle. Would you ever wear a man's jersey,
Speaker 1: a football jersey or any sports my sons? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: my sons. I haven't. No, but I haven't. What about you? Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm very clear in that stance. No, it's super weird
Speaker 1: for men to wear other men jerseys. I've said that
Speaker 1: for a year. Killed me on Twitter for it. So
Speaker 1: you don't have a Jordan jersey? No? No, really, if
Speaker 1: it was, it would be signed it on his wall. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had. I had one jersey that someone gifted me
Speaker 1: when I signed to Carolina. This was back when throwback
Speaker 1: jersey were kind of the thing, right. They got me
Speaker 1: a Carolina James Worthy throwback jersey and I had that
Speaker 1: my freshman year at school. And then after that I
Speaker 1: was like Kanye. Literally, Kanye came on the scene and
Speaker 1: Polos became the thing. Everybody through their jersey's away. I
Speaker 1: got rid of the jersey. Really, Yeah, that's only jersey.
Speaker 1: I had that one when I was a kid, but
Speaker 1: as an adult, No, how about you, Chris, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: currently own one jersey, black Hawk's jersey. It is a
Speaker 1: black Chris Chelios. No, it's Kine. Okay, what about you? No,
Speaker 1: don't own any jerseys? Would you? Though? The only way,
Speaker 1: the only way I would do it is if it
Speaker 1: was somebody that would you wear a Tyrone Crowford jersey?
Speaker 1: I was gonna just ask him about right now if
Speaker 1: it was a special like, ok not just like not
Speaker 1: just out in public, but like if it was some
Speaker 1: kind of like he came back and played a game
Speaker 1: or he retired here, and you know, maybe not even that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe well I changed my mind. I
Speaker 1: was another man's chairs out because I do. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: eate news cheres. Do you would do? What about the
Speaker 1: president's jersey? Who? Uh? I get? I signed one. I
Speaker 1: got to get him to sign. Why I put it
Speaker 1: on my wall? Would you ever wear it? No? We
Speaker 1: ain't loving the president hey in the Hall of Fame. No, No,
Speaker 1: let he forced me. I ain't got another charge. Let
Speaker 1: me run down the before we get back into it.
Speaker 1: The schedule for Kansas City, because we're not knocking you guys.
Speaker 1: If you want to wearer no, we just choose. I
Speaker 1: just choose not shots. Yeah, I don't see anything wrong
Speaker 1: shot off. Um, this is how they started off. They
Speaker 1: won versus Cleveland, they lost versus Baltimore, lost versus the Chargers.
Speaker 1: They got blown out for Baltimore. Yeah, beat beat Philly.
Speaker 1: Uh no, thirty six thirty five? Was that all garbage
Speaker 1: points at the end? No bottom the late last field?
Speaker 1: What the game? They got blown out Buffalo Buffalo in
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Okay, that's the one. Sorry. They beat Philly
Speaker 1: forty two to thirty. They lost to Buffalo thirty eight
Speaker 1: to twenty one at Washington thirty one thirteen, lost at
Speaker 1: Tennessee twenty seven to three, and then they won three
Speaker 1: in a row, the Giants, Green Bay and Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: So they started off really green Bay didn't have have
Speaker 1: two blowouts. Yeah, they won that game. I believe it
Speaker 1: was thirteen nothing right, thirteen seven or seven? That's right,
Speaker 1: there are two blowouts. They had four turnovers. Buffalo didn't
Speaker 1: have any Titans head they had three against the Titans.
Speaker 1: That's the best humanity and one Tennessee. Tennessee got the
Speaker 1: best human even without Henry. But they they they are
Speaker 1: playing well as a team. Yeah, but I mean you
Speaker 1: think of them as a high powered offense. But they
Speaker 1: they've put up thirteen twenty three twenty they had the
Speaker 1: longest winning streaming the league right now six games current Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about Tennessee? N I just do that.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing for for Kansas City is what Kurt
Speaker 1: was just mentioning is that they've turned the ball over
Speaker 1: at an extremely higher rate this year. Interptions. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: the charter three four four turnovers to none for charters
Speaker 1: a team. No, no, no, no, they've been turning the
Speaker 1: ball over. They've been turning the ball over. And then
Speaker 1: they've had a bunch of uncharacteristic drops, fumbles, interceptions, and
Speaker 1: we talk about like think about in a game, you
Speaker 1: have four turn ups, that's four possessions that you don't
Speaker 1: have in a game to do something with, and you
Speaker 1: give another team for extra possessions that they probably normally
Speaker 1: wouldn't have in a football game like that, that that
Speaker 1: puts you in a very difficult situation. And they were
Speaker 1: they used to have a list of the percentages, like
Speaker 1: if you turn the ball over one time a game,
Speaker 1: you're fifteen percent chance to lose a game two times
Speaker 1: a game forty percent chance, three chance eighty five percent
Speaker 1: chance of losing the football game. And four it's almost
Speaker 1: a four gone conclusion. You turn the ball over four
Speaker 1: times in the game, you can you can count that
Speaker 1: as a loss. So for Kansas City, it's it's been that.
Speaker 1: And most teams this year have made them change the
Speaker 1: where they played football because they've stopped allowing the big plays.
Speaker 1: And it took them a while for Patrick Mahomes, for
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, for Eric b Enemy, for h Andy Reid
Speaker 1: to realize, Okay, we got to take the underneath stuff. Hey,
Speaker 1: throw it out to the back of the flare. Throw it.
Speaker 1: They'll throw that check down. Throw that right over the
Speaker 1: you know, right over the ghost tight end, right over
Speaker 1: the ghost center. Like take the profitable plays to allow
Speaker 1: us to get to the home run plays. They were
Speaker 1: so used to hitting the home run plays at such
Speaker 1: a high rate that they were just constantly going to it.
Speaker 1: What teams were saying, like, you know what, we didn't
Speaker 1: give you the we didn't give you the big home
Speaker 1: run plays anymore. And it took some time to adjust
Speaker 1: to saying, you know what, I Patrick Mahomes said, I
Speaker 1: never threw the checkdown route because I was always I
Speaker 1: was going down field. We were always just they were
Speaker 1: the Steph Curry Warriors of the NFL. It's like, you
Speaker 1: know what, why take a layup? What I could shoot
Speaker 1: the three? You know? It's like, yeah, I know, I
Speaker 1: had a layup. That's a ninety ninety five percent chance
Speaker 1: of converting, and there's three pointers more like a thirty
Speaker 1: five percent chance of converting, forty percent chance of converting.
Speaker 1: But yolo, I'm shooting the three. And if I make
Speaker 1: enough of these threes, if I make ten threes and
Speaker 1: you make ten twos, I win. And for a long time,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs were just saying, hey, I'm going for the yolo.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm going for the fifteen to splash play,
Speaker 1: twenty plus yard play, and the whole time the back
Speaker 1: is in the flat, and they're just like, oh, we
Speaker 1: don't care about you, Terry Hill. Go deep and we'll
Speaker 1: just keep chucking and chucking and chucking it as long
Speaker 1: as they didn't turn the ball over. You gotta believe
Speaker 1: that if I throw four, if I got a chance
Speaker 1: to throw three goal routes and I connect on one,
Speaker 1: that's forty that's forty forty yards, we move the chains right,
Speaker 1: we go down just like that. So they were so
Speaker 1: used to just taking those chunk plays that now they
Speaker 1: had to convert back to doing something kind of normal,
Speaker 1: saying you know what, yeah, running back, go do something.
Speaker 1: And it took him a little while to adjusted that.
Speaker 1: And I don't I don't want to say they found
Speaker 1: their rhythm last week against against the Raiders. But good
Speaker 1: though they look good against the Raiders, they're run game
Speaker 1: where you know, I think they're one of the lowest
Speaker 1: teams in run percentage. I mean, is it your boy?
Speaker 1: Even Jordan ain't gonna make a difference. A little kid
Speaker 1: out of this you coming back? They say, miss last
Speaker 1: week just so he'll be ready this week's But that
Speaker 1: don't make a difference that they just throw it him
Speaker 1: to him. Hey, Kurt, pull up Twitter, put it put
Speaker 1: a put another pole out on Twitter. So that one
Speaker 1: did so good yesterday. We like, we like the pole
Speaker 1: your shot, so asked asked the people who they want
Speaker 1: to be our wing Stop guest on the show next week?
Speaker 1: And I'll give you a list of guys. All right,
Speaker 1: make sure you tag wing Stop. Let's see. Let's see
Speaker 1: who we want Jordan get Can I get a bone? Yeah? Who?
Speaker 1: Who put your guy in there? Who's your guy? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? Was you know the flax huh flags? Chicken flag? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's who I want. Oh he want he want Flats
Speaker 1: to be his guy? Flats? Oh you want us? I
Speaker 1: work on that Tuesday. It's throwing there. Let's throwing there,
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, Lewis, man, come on, you know that's my guy.
Speaker 1: Come on, man the other guy. Let's put in Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson and come on, you've making me fight. Let's do
Speaker 1: c J. Goodwin for Jesse for the special Teams guy, okay?
Speaker 1: And then who who do we want our four to be?
Speaker 1: It can't be like dak or Zeke because I've got
Speaker 1: too big time for us. Who else we want? Zack Martin, Sir?
Speaker 1: Who else? Who else? Who's the fourth? Bakers Ville Butcher?
Speaker 1: Can you do more than four? What nominees? Again? Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson, C J. Goodwin? And then who Butcher? Let's
Speaker 1: let's go with your guys. Who Malik Turner? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: going him all receivers and what was that shuttle? Like?
Speaker 1: I don't know Malik? Okay, you're believing him yet I
Speaker 1: don't know him? Like to you don't believe him enough
Speaker 1: him to be on the show. You believe in him enough,
Speaker 1: like a killing the Neils. He good interview, Yeah, right back,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, Michael Gallup, Yeah he done enough yet now
Speaker 1: he's him get more? Oh big, Still he's on he's
Speaker 1: on a You can't be a It can't be a rookie.
Speaker 1: It's not a rookie. He's on the rookie. He's not
Speaker 1: he's on his contract contract. Yeah, rookie contract. Yeah. Oh
Speaker 1: they came to a rookie contract. Yeah, talk off air,
Speaker 1: all right, money up, Zack Black Martin, let's go put
Speaker 1: Zack in. There's actually a good interview, Like he's a
Speaker 1: good but he's awesome, all right, but the resident watching
Speaker 1: pick watching watch him pick? Uh, somebody I can't get.
Speaker 1: I think I get all those guys. Yeah, well it's
Speaker 1: the short works next week too, by the way, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it might be tough. Whenever we're able to get guys
Speaker 1: next it might be the following week. Put it out there. Sorry,
Speaker 1: that's all right, all right, Kurt Hey, thanks for doing
Speaker 1: the live reads format. Struggle a bit today, Jesse, thanks
Speaker 1: for opening up the show for me, got thanks for
Speaker 1: hanging out last night. Wow, that was a great show.
Speaker 1: That's a good show. Thanks for being here today, Chris,
Speaker 1: you leave before after he got this through situation. I
Speaker 1: didn't even remember. Yes, Thanks Aaron. What happened Aaron? Get
Speaker 1: ready this lightlow? Oh yeah that was super. At least
Speaker 1: you got dinner first, Aaron. Wear your nice clothes tomorrow.
Speaker 1: You might need to make a special appearance on Hanging
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Speaker 1: on the live Will maybe my voice is if not
Speaker 1: get it out our back might not be get it
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