1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Does it make sense to the president, says, the Ranians 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: want the US to keep bombing. 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: No, No, it sounds like lunacy to me. I certainly, 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: most Iran people at this point are not supporters of 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: the regime. They would like regime change, but they know 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: that this is not the way to go about doing it. 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: There's not going to be a popular uprising in Iran. 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: They tried that in January threety five, forty thousand people 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: are slaughtered as a result. This is not going to 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: bring about regime change in any way. 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: Do you see a reason for ran to make a 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: deal and open. 13 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: The straight up her moods before the President's deadline tomorrow? 14 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: And if not, how seriously do you take his threat 15 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: to destroy their infrastructure. 16 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 4: Yes, well, that's a great question, Anderson, and I think 17 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 4: it's really the question of the day. It's not yet 18 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 4: in Iran's interest to make that kind of deal, however, 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 4: given that their control of the Straits is the principal 20 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 4: leverage that they have for any kind of negotiation. And 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 4: you know, as I think we talked about last week, 22 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 4: their strategy is to survive, to prevent total surrender, to 23 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 4: preserve the Islamic regime, and to do that they have 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 4: to hang onto the straits. It is their principal leverage 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 4: in terms of the president's threats. I think they have 26 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 4: demonstrated an ability to absorb strikes at home while still 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 4: exacting a cost on the rest of the world. And 28 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: I think that's what those who make these kinds of 29 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 4: decisions in Iran are prepared to do for at least 30 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: several more weeks. 31 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 5: Not just the rhetoric about the Christian nationalist rhetoric. 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 6: People are believing what they're saying. 33 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 3: That part of the problem, without a doubt. 34 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 5: I mean, the reason why Trump is tapping into that 35 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 5: is because there's been there's been a lot of coverage 36 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 5: about the fractures within the right wing about over this war. 37 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 5: The one thing that has been growing in popularity and 38 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 5: support for this war is the evangelical communities, the Christian space, 39 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 5: all of that part of their media ecosystem is excited 40 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 5: about this. So not only are people believing it, but 41 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 5: they are getting impassioned because he's making these very explicit 42 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 5: calls to their religion. 43 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 7: Would it be a limited ground invasion the box were 44 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 7: already in. 45 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 6: You're being dropped into the world right now, what would 46 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 6: you tell them to do well. 47 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 7: I think it's really difficult given where we are, because 48 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 7: the military option at this point are very bad. A 49 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 7: ground operation, I think would only get us in deeper 50 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 7: cost American lives and not solve the problem. I think 51 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 7: continuing to degrade Iran's military capabilities and targeted operations is fine, 52 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 7: but it also is not going to open the strait, 53 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 7: and an attempt right now to do an escort operation, 54 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 7: the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is told 55 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 7: the President basically that's not a very plausible option. So 56 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 7: this is a reason to get a diplomatic off ramp. 57 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 3: Now, my view is that. 58 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 7: A diplomatic offramp doesn't have to be a formal agreement 59 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 7: between the two sides. It could be something a little 60 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 7: more informal, a little more implicit, and I think that 61 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 7: the President and his team should be looking for that 62 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 7: because they should be trying to bring this war to 63 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 7: an end. 64 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 3: And I believe the Strait. 65 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 7: Could be reopened on the back of that, and we 66 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 7: could send a clear deterrent message to Iran. You mess 67 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 7: with the straight you mess with our neighbors, you mesags 68 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 7: with any one else, We retain a lot of capabilities 69 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 7: to cause. 70 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 8: Harm to you. 71 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 7: But an off ramp right now for the president I 72 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 7: think is by far the best option. 73 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 9: Right the breaking news this morning, we are just learning 74 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 9: of new reports of explosions on carg Island. This handles 75 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 9: almost all of Iran's oil exports, about ninety percent. If 76 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 9: you look at that map, it's actually yeah, you can 77 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 9: see it all the way up there at the top 78 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 9: of the Persian Gulf there, just off the coast of Iran. 79 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 9: President Trump has repeatedly threatened to bomb or seize the island, 80 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 9: and there have been strikes before. Oil prices have been 81 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 9: spiking over the last few minutes since the reports have 82 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 9: been coming in of these strikes, up about two to 83 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 9: three percent in the numbers that I've seen again now 84 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 9: now over three percent there in some cases. 85 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 10: The President has put out a new message on social media. 86 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 10: Can we put it up? Let's read it because it's 87 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 10: about the deadline tonight. He wrote, A whole civilization will 88 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 10: die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't 89 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 10: want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now 90 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 10: that we have complete and total regime change, where different, 91 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 10: smarter and less radicalized minds prevail. Maybe something revolutionarily wonderful 92 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 10: can happen. Who knows. We will find out tonight one 93 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 10: of the most important moments in the long and complex 94 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 10: history of the world. Forty seven years of extortion, corruption 95 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 10: and death will finally end. God bless the great people 96 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 10: of Iran. 97 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 11: I think, if you're reading the tea leaves here, it 98 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 11: is just an incredibly confusing message from President Trump. On 99 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 11: one hand, he says that it probably will happen, referring 100 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 11: to potential strikes on Iran tonight, and at the same 101 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 11: time he says it's possible that there could still be 102 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 11: a diplomatic solution here. So if you're trying to interpret 103 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 11: what is going to happen just twelve hours from now, 104 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 11: I think it's still incredibly unclear. What is clear we 105 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 11: have learned, according to one US official, that the US 106 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 11: has conducted strikes this morning Eastern time on karg Island. 107 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 11: Of course, that is the key fuel hub in the 108 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 11: Persian Gulf. It handles most of Iran's oil exports. So 109 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 11: it's a very significant area and very significant that the 110 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 11: Trump administration is telegraphing that they are indeed serious about 111 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 11: proceeding with President Trump's threats if they don't reach a 112 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 11: deal to reopen the strait of horror news by that 113 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 11: eight o'clock Eastern time deadline. Diplomatic efforts are underway. Vice 114 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 11: President JD. Vance, who's currently traveling in Hungary, is leading 115 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 11: those efforts, along with Special Envoice Steve Whitkoff, Jared Kushner, 116 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 11: the President's son in law, Pakistan, Egypt, Turkey, all as 117 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 11: acting as key mediators there. But I asked the President 118 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 11: just yesterday whether he might be open to extending that 119 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 11: eight o'clock deadline if he felt like those talks were progressing. 120 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 11: He said he couldn't say just yet. So that is 121 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 11: certainly something to keep an eye out for. In this 122 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 11: truth social post that we are seeing from the President 123 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 11: doesn't really add much to whether or not definitively we 124 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 11: should expect those strikes to happen. The President saying that 125 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 11: he will bomb Iran to the stone ages, attacking their 126 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 11: critical infrastructure, things like power plants and bridges. 127 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 12: Sure that would obey the war crime that's being directed 128 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 12: by the President and the Secretary of Defense. 129 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 8: Would be committing their own war crime. 130 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 3: They would be illegal. 131 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 12: They would be essentially executing an illegal order, and that's 132 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 12: exactly what Senator Kelly and his colleagues talked about warned 133 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 12: us about a couple months ago. You know, we cannot 134 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 12: let that happen. It's terrible that it's gotten in the situation. 135 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 12: And the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff pushed back 136 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 12: a little bit on Donald Trump today, but he needs 137 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 12: to push back more because our soldiers that execute these 138 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 12: missions that are being directed by the president maybe one 139 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 12: day have to answer to the Hague or some other 140 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 12: internet tribunal figure. 141 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: The Numberg trials. 142 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 12: Okay, twelve senior leaders from the German military were executed, 143 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 12: We're hung as a result of their actions during World 144 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 12: War Two. Would we like to see that same thing 145 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 12: happen to our American soldiers? 146 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 6: Of course not. 147 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 12: Senior leaders need to understand that what they are being 148 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 12: directed to be to do, to execute it would be 149 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,559 Speaker 12: an illegal order, and they cannot in good conscience allow 150 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 12: their soldiers to execute them. 151 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 8: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. 152 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 13: Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on 153 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 13: these people. You're not going to free shot all these 154 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 13: networks lying about the people. 155 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 8: The people have had a belly full of it. I 156 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 8: know you don't like garing that. I know you tried 157 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 8: to do everything in the world to stop that, but 158 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 8: you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. 159 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: And where do people like that go to share the 160 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: big line? Mega media? 161 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 14: I wish in my soul, I wish that any these 162 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 14: people at a conscience. 163 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 8: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 164 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: If that answer is to save my country, this country 165 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 2: will be saved. 166 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 10: War Room. 167 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 6: Here's your host, Stephen Kba. 168 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 13: It's Tuesday, seven April, in the year of Our Lord, 169 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 13: twenty twenty six. I think if the action lives up 170 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 13: to the rhetoric, this will be a day to remember. 171 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 13: So take your number two part sile out right now 172 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 13: and circle it. Action has already started on carg Island 173 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 13: with military targets, also the IDF the Israelis are hitting 174 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 13: I think already infrastructure targets. Captain Finel is going to 175 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 13: join us in a moment and walk. 176 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 8: Us through. 177 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 13: Systematically how this is going to be taken out of 178 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 13: the enemy as a system, and to break it down 179 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 13: that way of what's going to happen on what is 180 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 13: happening right now Nil mccave's the White House. 181 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 8: Bowling is going to join us, Jim Ricards. 182 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 13: So we've got for the next couple hours to break 183 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 13: all of this down in the how this impacts your life, 184 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 13: the community, your community's life, in the country's life. 185 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 8: Let's go. 186 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 13: I want to read first off too, And I think 187 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 13: the most pressing I said yesterday on the Bowling Show 188 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 13: before we start the five o'clock that if the President 189 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 13: can't find someone to negotiate with and not simply a deal, 190 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 13: but someone that could actually commit to a deal and 191 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 13: deliver a deal, He's told you what the alternative is. 192 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 8: Still with all this. 193 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 13: Happy talk about a deal and not a deal and 194 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 13: try to talk, we're not there's no face to face. 195 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 13: At least my understanding, there's no actual face to face 196 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 13: communication between anyone really on the American side and the 197 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 13: Iranian site. Now there may be some announcements, etc. To 198 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 13: come back and say, well this guy was starting that, 199 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 13: But right now now the president put out and I 200 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 13: think of all the true social sees put out, people 201 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 13: should take this very very seriously. A whole civilization will 202 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 13: die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't 203 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 13: want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now 204 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 13: we have a complete and total regime change where different, 205 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 13: smarter and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionary, revolutionarily 206 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 13: wonderful can happen. 207 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 8: Who knows. We will find out tonight. 208 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 13: One of the most important moments in the long and 209 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 13: complex history. 210 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 8: Of the world. 211 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 13: Let me repeat that from the president, one of the 212 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 13: most important moments in the long and complex history of 213 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 13: the world. Forty seven years of extortion, corruption. 214 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 8: Death will finally end. 215 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 13: God bless the great people of Iran, the Iranians at 216 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 13: least who we think are representing them. One of the 217 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 13: ones that the media has been putting up fonded this 218 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 13: moments ago. Right, we're coming on air, Iran responds after 219 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 13: President Trump says their entire civilization will die tonight. 220 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: Quote. 221 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 13: All diplomatic channels and indirect talks have been frozen after 222 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 13: President Trump's recent threats. Iron says, So there you have it, 223 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 13: at least as the best we can do. And I 224 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 13: said last night unless presidents not into games. Very specifically, 225 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 13: yesterday he said he gave them an additional seven days. 226 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 13: Then he extended it three days. 227 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 8: That got tomorrow. 228 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 13: He didn't want this action to take place on Easter Money, 229 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 13: so he gave him an additional day. 230 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 8: That's eleven days, and I don't think there's been any 231 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 8: real movements. 232 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 13: Supposedly they got a ten part counter but I might 233 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 13: add none of the points have really been leaked to 234 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 13: the media, and the ten point counteroffer has not been. 235 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 8: Given to the media. 236 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 13: To see how far the bid in the Ascar, which 237 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 13: appears to be at least right now unbridgeable. The time 238 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 13: is eight o'clock. Real Amerker's voice recovered all day. Let's 239 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 13: go to the White House, Neil McCabe. Neil, the White 240 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 13: House seems a very serious mode this morning. It's not 241 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 13: a It's very different than your sday with the celebration 242 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 13: of Easter money, with all the Monday with all the 243 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 13: kids there on the Easter egg hunt. 244 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 8: Put us in the room, sir. Yeah, I'll tell you this, Steve. 245 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 15: The President is basically an executive time all day except 246 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 15: for a three pm signing. But as you said, that 247 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 15: true social post this morning basically said it is on. 248 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 15: I would also refer you back to last night. There 249 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 15: were two attacks on US facilities diplomatic facilities in Iraq 250 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 15: by Iranian Back to militia and that may have been 251 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 15: the trigger where President Trump said, all right, that's it, 252 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 15: We're just going to do it. 253 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 13: So right now people are hunkered down there is how 254 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 13: much you just stick around there. 255 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 8: We're going to go to break there in a moment. 256 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 13: There is a one pm press conference unrelated to the war. 257 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 8: We're going to cover that because it's quite important. It's 258 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 8: going to be over at DOJ with the new. 259 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 13: Acting Attorney General, Todd blanche and it's specifically going to 260 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 13: be about this massive effort they're going to have on 261 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 13: anti fraud to make sure that we can get not 262 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 13: just the Somalian situation of Minnesota, but across the nation, 263 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 13: particularly in these blue states that's out of control as 264 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 13: their new initiative, but in the new head of the 265 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 13: Anti Fraud Division there. But I'm sure the media are 266 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 13: going to ask questions regarding everything. So we're going to 267 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 13: be there at one pm. Real America's Voice will cover it. 268 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 13: Hopefully Neil McKay will be over there to cover this also. Neil, 269 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 13: just stick around the White House. We're going to come 270 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 13: back to you. We're going to take a short commercial break. 271 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 13: We've were stacked this morning as we're going to break down. 272 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 13: I think it's look from the Iranians position, they're digging in. 273 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 13: I said yesterday, they feel they have the initiative and 274 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 13: as brutally as they're getting taken down, and I think 275 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 13: now we're moving to the mode of state collapse. They 276 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 13: think they're winning. This is why they're being so arrogant 277 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 13: and so tough. They're just blowing off President Trump. To 278 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 13: be brutally frank about it, there's not really a negotiation 279 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 13: going on. So President Trump's giving them a deadline. We're 280 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 13: about ten hours away from that deadline. We will cover 281 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 13: this wall to wall. As President Trump said, this may 282 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 13: be one of the most important days in world history, 283 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 13: the complex history of the world. Let's take President Trump 284 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 13: for his word. I know people are working NonStop to 285 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 13: see if this off ramp. But as of right now, 286 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 13: as the Bridge used to say in the Second World War, 287 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 13: the party is on sure. 288 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,239 Speaker 8: Commercial break back in the worm in a moment. 289 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: War Room. 290 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 6: Use your host, Stephen k. 291 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 13: Okay, welcome back. We'll get back to McCabe of the 292 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 13: White House, Patrick Cave. Donald's going to join us in 293 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 13: the second hour with Jim Recers. I've asked Patrick to 294 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 13: come on to talk about major presidential decisions, because at 295 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 13: least if this was up to the rhetoric, that's a 296 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 13: pretty big decision. Let's get bowling in Eric the I 297 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 13: think the markets it was quite. It was quite yesterday 298 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 13: as in they were in disbelief. But I think people 299 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 13: are becoming believers, particularly we hit at least has been 300 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 13: reported additional military targets on carg Island. I think Jim 301 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 13: fan now cam Fane is gonna tell us that the 302 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 13: that the Israelis have already started their efforts on the 303 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 13: infrastructure side. It looks like, so what are the markets 304 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 13: telling us? 305 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 14: Yeah, Marcus are telling us they heard exactly what Trump 306 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 14: said this morning. There's gonna only shell out them, and 307 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 14: they're believing it. I'll just tell you the WTI crewed 308 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 14: the West Texas enemy our crew benchmarked to many many 309 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 14: crews around the world, just hit one hundred and seventeen 310 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 14: dollars a barrel, highest price. It's only been higher twice 311 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 14: in our history. Biden headed at one thirty nine for 312 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 14: a brief moment, and George Bush during his late in 313 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 14: his second term one hundred and fifty dollars a barrel. 314 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: It's a record high there. 315 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 14: So this is the third highest ever and if the 316 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 14: things proceed as they look like they're going to, you 317 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 14: may see the same types of numbers, or maybe even higher. 318 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 14: The problem is, Steve, one of the things that the 319 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 14: Iranians in that ten point I guess reconciliation package, one 320 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 14: of them, I think was a. 321 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: Big non start. 322 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 14: First of all, Trump administration official who saw it told 323 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 14: Axios it was a maximalist plan, not a minimalist. But 324 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 14: one of the things that I think would be a 325 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 14: deal breaker is that they were asking for also having 326 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 14: some sort of remained in control of the straight up hormones. 327 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: They wanted reparations. 328 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 14: They won't be paid for the damage that was inflicted 329 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 14: on their country, and that, Steve, that could be hundreds 330 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 14: of billions of dollars, and I think that would be 331 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 14: a complete non starter for the American people and Donald Trump. 332 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 14: So a lot going on higher, higher, higher oil prices, 333 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 14: equities are are, you know, obviously drifting lower. I tell 334 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 14: you though, I just just hold out because Trump has 335 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 14: a way of unleashing hell, showing them he needed a 336 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 14: business and then somehow, you know, like I said yesterday, 337 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 14: this is the art of war that combined with the 338 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 14: art of the deal, and I have hope that there's 339 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 14: a there's an off ramp somewhere that he's holding a 340 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 14: Trump card, so speaking in his pocket. 341 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 13: Let's go back to that maximalist strategy. President Trump put 342 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 13: out a true social clearly he had thought about, right. 343 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 13: It was a very tight wasn't loose. It was tight 344 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 13: about this is going to be the end of your civilization, 345 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 13: and and this on this stage, when you're talking about 346 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 13: things like this, you can't bluff, right, You can't bluff. 347 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 13: So President Trump when he says I'm taking down your civilization, 348 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 13: and these guys come back and we don't know all 349 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 13: the ten points, but it's been referred to as a 350 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 13: maximalist right. 351 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 8: I think one of the reason I'm not releasing it. 352 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 8: They did the even. 353 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 13: Administration doesn't want to show how big the gap is. 354 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 13: Although we're not in a room negotiating this. When you 355 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 13: have two maximalist positions, one of the reasons you have it, 356 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 13: eric is both sides think they're winning. Both sides think 357 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 13: they've got as President Trump say that they have no cards. 358 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 13: I hold all the cards, and I think we're going 359 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 13: And I think Captain Fanel will support this in his analysis, 360 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 13: we're going from the declawing, defanging, degradation of their military 361 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 13: now to something I've been talked about, what even the 362 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 13: Israelis were talking about initially, which is total state collapse. 363 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 13: That's what we're going after the infrastructure and the Iranians, 364 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 13: whether they're correct. 365 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 8: Or not, is not the point in their mind. 366 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 13: They think they've shifted the center of gravity of this 367 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 13: war to the Gulf. They think they control the straits 368 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 13: or removes. They haven't seen the United States Navy escorting 369 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 13: ships in there. They haven't seen Special Forces raids yet 370 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 13: to try to beat them back. They've been bombed with 371 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 13: two thousand pound bombs. But they think they have the initiative, 372 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 13: not just they're winning, they think they have the initiatives 373 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 13: in this war right now. That is not a great 374 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 13: set of facts to actually get into a table and 375 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 13: try to negotiate a deal. The sides are just too 376 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 13: far apart, not just far apart on what they're asking, 377 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 13: on what their mentality is. The United States of America 378 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 13: and the Commander in chief and the military are absolutely 379 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 13: convinced that the plan has worked to date. Now they're 380 00:19:54,040 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 13: going to drop the hammer even harder and the enemy leaves. 381 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 8: They've gone asymmetric. 382 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 13: I don't think they're debating that they've degraded their military, 383 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 13: but they're going asymmetric. And one of the tails there 384 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 13: is West Texas. I mean, why would West Texas Intermediate, 385 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 13: which is the price of the oil here, be it 386 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 13: one hundred and seventeen dollars. 387 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 8: I think it's higher than Brent crude. 388 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 13: Right Why are people panicking and at least bidding that 389 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 13: up right now when that's not directly related to what's 390 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 13: coming out of the straight or horror moves. 391 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: Well, a couple of things. 392 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 14: The price of West Texas is one seventeen, approaching a record. 393 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 14: But the Brent crew that we see on CNBC et 394 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 14: cetera for a June delivery, what you're looking at. 395 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 3: West Texas is for a May delivery. 396 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 14: If you apples to apples with the Brent, will be 397 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 14: a spot price for Brent, and that's roughly almost one 398 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 14: hundred and forty dollars a barrel, But they don't trade 399 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 14: it actively like that. That's immediate use right now. Why 400 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 14: is West Texas going up? Because yes, it is more 401 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 14: benchmarked in North America and maybe some European countries, but 402 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 14: it's still oil. 403 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: Like money, is fungible. 404 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 14: It's not perfectly fungible like money, but it's fungible in 405 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 14: that if Brent COEs one hundred and two hundred dollars 406 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 14: a barrel, let's say, and West Texas stays at one 407 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 14: point twenty, there will be a lot of people who 408 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 14: are switching their refineries over and stay there, and they 409 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 14: believe it will stay there for a long time. They'll 410 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 14: switch the refineries over because the transportation cost makes it 411 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 14: economic to do so. 412 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 3: So it's tough to do. You need a lot. But 413 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: that's why a dislocation. 414 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 14: In one area in the global oil market brings all 415 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 14: oil prices up, because at some point the dislocation and 416 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 14: price differential makes sense to pay the extra money to 417 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 14: transport it around this horn. 418 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 3: Of Africa or wherever it may have to go. 419 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 14: But the one thing I think on what your first 420 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 14: point was, I'm people aren't going to like this and 421 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 14: this is really bad for me and for stock accounts everywhere. 422 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 3: But at this point, Steve, yeah, I think both sides. 423 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: I don't know. 424 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 14: If Iran thinks they're winning, they'll they like to thought 425 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 14: of being martyrs and fight to the death, and they 426 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 14: may be on that mentality right now, but at this 427 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 14: point a forty five days ceasefire doesn't make a lot 428 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 14: of sense. 429 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: Markets for take a breather. 430 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 14: Oil will go down and Stockholm will go up, but 431 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 14: it doesn't fix any of the problems. And I don't 432 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 14: think the Rudians are ever going to come around to 433 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 14: where Trump needs them or wants them to be so 434 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 14: at this point unless they come hat in hand in 435 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 14: the next eight hours or so nine hours, I think 436 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 14: the best move is just unleash hell on them and 437 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 14: follow through with it. 438 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 13: When you say unleash hell, the President has bifurcated this 439 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 13: as infrastructure electrical grid what they need for their day 440 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 13: to day and oil infrastructure in their old industry. Carg 441 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 13: Island hit this morning, at least as I can parse it. 442 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 13: Focus additionally, and military targets, and I clearly sent a 443 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 13: message that carg Island is on the punch list, but 444 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 13: they hit military target. 445 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 8: What do you think happens if this goes broader. 446 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 13: Than just the electoral infrastructure and he actually starts to 447 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 13: hit the Iranian infrastructure of all the complexity of their 448 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 13: only gas industry, Sir, I. 449 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 3: Think he's well on his way. 450 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 14: When you take out the power if they you need 451 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 14: power and energy to transport oil. It's our only commodity, 452 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 14: that's our only economic input. So he'll effectively create stituen 453 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 14: and take the bridges out so they can't transport it 454 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 14: via truck or train anymore without the bridges. He's he's 455 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 14: going to cripple them. He's going to bring the country 456 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 14: to their knees. And maybe that's what it's going to 457 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 14: take to get them to the bargaining table, but they're 458 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 14: going to feel hell. 459 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: For quite a while with with just this. 460 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 14: If he escalates it to you know, media, which I 461 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 14: have recommended in the past, go but I want I 462 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 14: was hoping to do it without a five or six 463 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 14: hour ultimatum. I think they could have system systemically done 464 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 14: this thing where the Iranians say, oh, okay, enough is enough. 465 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 14: But he wants to He wants to hit him hard 466 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 14: and hit him fast. And you know, again, I've. 467 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 3: Learned, I'm old enough to have learned that it's. 468 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 14: Not wise to doubt Trump's plan because sometimes you don't 469 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 14: see what the ultimate plan is, but he seems to 470 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 14: always have one that works. 471 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 3: This may be painful first though. 472 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 13: Eric, any closing observations, We'll let you get back to work. 473 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 13: See you on the four o'clock show. We'll do a 474 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 13: handover if I if I'm organized enough in the five. 475 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 13: I love doing the handover with you, but this could 476 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 13: be one of those days. 477 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 8: What any closing thoughts for you? 478 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 14: For you, Bounce, I think today is a day of 479 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 14: holding your breath, so to speak. It certainly in the 480 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 14: oil market, the financial markets, in the humanitarian market, quote 481 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 14: unquote markets as well. All eyes are looking straight at 482 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 14: eight o'clock. I just hope it's not another delay, because 483 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 14: it's just it's like, let's rip the freaking band aid 484 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 14: off already and do it and deal with the fallout now, 485 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 14: or or don't do it and deal with you know, backtracking. 486 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 14: Trump doesn't seem the type to want to do that, 487 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 14: and at this point, I don't think smart way to 488 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 14: do it either. That would give the Uranians, embolden the Ranians. 489 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 14: I think that they can do this again and again. 490 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 14: So you know, I'm racing for some higher prices and 491 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 14: some lower equity prices, lower valuations on assets, and and 492 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 14: a lot higher prices on food and everything. That's going 493 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 14: to happen, and then hopefully again, Steve, I've said this 494 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 14: a long time, hopefully he gets this over real fast 495 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 14: and then just really really pumps the crap out of 496 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 14: oil and gets that price back down to a level 497 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 14: that it doesn't hurt us in the midterms mid terms. 498 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 14: I keep circling it. It's it's going to be a thing. 499 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 14: People are saying, Oh, this is bigger than midterms. Tell 500 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 14: me that November seventh, when when you know, if there's 501 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 14: a sweep, a blue wave and we're going back to 502 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 14: the days of vocism and you know, nothing getting done 503 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 14: and the liberal progressives just have their way in this country. 504 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: Not pretty. 505 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 8: For me, it'll be so much worse than that. 506 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 13: It'll be it'll be the moral equivalent what President Trump 507 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 13: is warning the the Iranians about right now. The Democrats 508 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 13: will immediately impeach him, but that won't come for a 509 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 13: year and a half, and every day will be hell. 510 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 8: They'll ring hell down to the White. 511 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 13: House because these guys are Marxist, Jiahattist, out of control. Eric, 512 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 13: thank you so much, appreciate you, sir. Take your phone 513 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 13: in a tex Bannon BA thank you see it four 514 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 13: fifty or so. 515 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 8: Thank you Sir. 516 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 13: Bannon at nine eight nine eight nine eight get the 517 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 13: ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in 518 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 13: the Age of Trump. 519 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 8: You don't think it's an age of Trump. Read his 520 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 8: true social posts this morning. 521 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 13: So the President United States says, one of the most 522 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 13: important days in the history of the world. 523 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 8: Short great. 524 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 6: Use your host, Stephen k Ma. 525 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 13: Welcome back. The The Iranians are ratcheting up the rhetoric. Also, 526 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 13: they're just breaking news Iran and I've given this that 527 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 13: Jim Fanel will talk about a camp. Fanel joins us. 528 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 13: They have threatened, they said they're going to close. As 529 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 13: I've warned about, the Red Sea is just as important 530 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 13: here as the as the straight or horror moves. They 531 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 13: have threatened to basically shut down the entire Saudi Arabian 532 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 13: Peninsula and particularly the strait that leads into the Red 533 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 13: Sea from. 534 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 8: I guess it's from the North Arabians, not the North 535 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 8: Abia ce. 536 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 13: I guess the Arabian Sea, which has always been a 537 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 13: choke point with their partners to Hutis. Captain fan Now, 538 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 13: I want to step back before we get into the 539 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 13: details of going back and forth in this rhetoric and 540 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 13: what's happening now. I think it's very instructive because you been, Hey, 541 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 13: this is the plan, this is what we're doing, this 542 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 13: is how we're taking it down. Every day they get 543 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 13: to greater more this whole concept of the enemy as 544 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 13: a system, the enemy as a system, because this is 545 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 13: the way military planners targeteers like yourself, others are looking 546 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 13: at this, and I think it's quite important today. 547 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 8: For us to separate out the rhetoric from the reality. 548 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 8: And right now you have. 549 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 13: Two very serious sets of people, one in Sencom and 550 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 13: the Joint Command under General Kine, that are moving towards 551 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 13: a potentially major escalation a night. But you also have 552 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 13: an enemy who I think believes they're winning. They've gone 553 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 13: asymmetric and they've got you know, they feel they've got 554 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 13: cards to play. Let's start with that concept. First off, 555 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 13: the enemy is a system. I know you've got a graph, 556 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 13: but walk the audience through. I want to get this 557 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 13: construct in people's minds as they see all this activity 558 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 13: and what appears to be chaos coming through the next 559 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 13: couple of days. Potentially that we help folks look through 560 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 13: the Fogle War. 561 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 16: Sir, Yes, Steve, I think I would you know, Obviously 562 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 16: we're all following this, and I've been talking with the 563 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 16: colleagues of mine, and retired Navy admiral who is involved 564 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 16: with the war against Kosovo said after the conflict, he 565 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 16: talked of the Slovenian director of Intelligence and asked him 566 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 16: why did Melosovich give up? And the Soviet trained general said, well, 567 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 16: you finally started impacting those forces that supported Melosovich, the 568 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 16: army and is against his policy, and you started cutting 569 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 16: off his access to funds. 570 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 17: So this is just a. 571 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 16: Reflection of this debate that you've just highlighted, which is 572 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 16: ken airpower alone and that this is really the canard 573 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 16: is it's not ever argued alone, but what is the 574 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 16: value of systematic approach to target an adversary? So if 575 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 16: you go to the graphic that I provided a camera there, 576 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 16: please back in nineteen ninety five, Colonel John Warden, United 577 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 16: States Air Force, who had served from. 578 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 17: Nineteen sixty five until nineteen ninety. 579 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 16: Five was a Ford Air controller flying Broncos in the 580 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 16: Vietnam War, came up with this system analysis of how 581 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 16: you would go after a look at your opponent. 582 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 17: And it's called the Five Rings. 583 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 16: And a nice article that just came out this last 584 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 16: week and the Army War College, pressed by doctor Jacob Stoyle, 585 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 16: says that he talks about this being applied to Iran. 586 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 16: And so what you see there is these rings and 587 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 16: in the center ring is the leadership and then its 588 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 16: outer ring. Next outer ring is organic essentials, then infrastructure 589 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 16: and population, and then field in military forces. So for 590 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 16: the last thirty eight days, the US military, Pentagon and 591 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 16: Syncom and the Joint Force have been going after predominantly 592 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 16: on the US side, the field and military forces. We've 593 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 16: been using asymmetric capabilities against their you know, lots of. 594 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 17: Different Iranian capabilities. 595 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 16: We've gone after their proxies, regional proxies, conventional military forces, 596 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 16: and likewise, the Israelis have been focusing on the leadership. 597 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 17: And the leadership. 598 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 16: There's some charts out there even today that show the 599 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 16: you know, the scores of higher GC leadership that has 600 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 16: been decimated along with the religious leaders and the Supreme. 601 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 17: Leader and his family and whatnot. 602 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 16: And we haven't really struck and touched the organic essentials, 603 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 16: which is the energy sector. We've gone after missile industrial complex, 604 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 16: those missile cities where they produce the ballistic missiles. 605 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 17: And drones and things of that nature. And we've gone 606 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 17: we've hit one bridge. 607 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 16: It was very publicized this last week, but we haven't 608 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 16: really gone after too much. So what's happened this morning 609 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 16: already is that you're seeing Israel IDF going after road 610 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 16: and rail bridge networks in Tehran, Isfahan, Kalm, Kwalm, and 611 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 16: in western Iran, along with the United States attacking military 612 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 16: refinishing off or not, I don't know if finishing is 613 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 16: not the right word, but continuing to attack military facilities 614 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 16: on carg Island, which is everyone knows is about ninety 615 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 16: percent of Iran's output for oil. That's the center point, 616 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 16: that's the key point in the Gulf. So what's happened 617 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 16: is is that we have for thirty eight days attack 618 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 16: that outer ring and now and the inner Ring, and 619 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 16: now we're going to expand it out into those two 620 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 16: blue rings organic essentials and infrastructure. 621 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 17: And as you said, there's the plan and the structure 622 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 17: is to have regime collapse. 623 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 16: And you know, the regime leaders, whoever they are, at 624 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 16: this point several rungs down the ladder, they may. 625 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: Or may not. 626 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 8: Hang on. 627 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 13: I want to get terminology right here, because President Trump 628 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 13: said and you see from the chart, he believes that's 629 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 13: regime change. 630 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 8: You've gone down. I think on the IRGC level, it's 631 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 8: even to the brigade level. We've killed a lot of people. 632 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 13: And the Israelis have, as they are want to do, 633 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 13: really target this for leadership and some say where they 634 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 13: also target who the negotiators are. 635 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 8: Be that as it may. They've taken care of that, 636 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 8: haven't we. 637 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 13: You look at the systems analysis, This is what I 638 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 13: want to get across to the audience. What happens tonight 639 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 13: is kind of fundamentally different. We're going towards state collapse. 640 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 13: I think if you get in back of President Trump's 641 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 13: rhetoric is that this is not simply about the regime anymore. 642 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 8: They're going to take down. 643 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 13: This is why he's warning the Iranian people that, hey, 644 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 13: your life is going to be very different after this. 645 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 13: This I'm looking at a civilizational collapse or state collapse. 646 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 13: They're going after the basic building blocks of how a 647 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 13: nation actually exists. 648 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 8: Is that a way to look at it that this 649 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 8: is kind of fundamentally different. 650 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 13: As you get closer into that inner circle of where 651 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 13: you're going to take this apart systematically, take the system 652 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 13: apart systematically. 653 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 16: I think the rhetoric will be used that way, and 654 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 16: the presidents use that rhetoric to say that exactly that 655 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 16: to the Iranian regime, this will be the end for you. 656 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 17: What in fact will actually happen likely tonight, is that he's. 657 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 16: Going to take out all their ability to produce power 658 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 16: and produce electricity and their ability to export. 659 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 17: Oil, which means they will have no money to come in. 660 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 17: They will have no power to move and you know, 661 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 17: build missiles, build drones. 662 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 16: They will not have any bridges, rail or road, so 663 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 16: they won't be able to get supplies in from or 664 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 16: anything flown in or maybe flying and still could be some, 665 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 16: but there won't be anything coming in from external sources. 666 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 17: They will be cut off, and so the regime will 667 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 17: have to do. 668 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 16: Something and what can they do well, most likely they'll 669 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 16: respond with a gasp a salvo of ballistic missiles and drones. 670 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 16: It'll probably be quite large over the next day or two, 671 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 16: but they're running out of those systems. Regardless of analysis 672 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 16: from some, I think the fact of the matter is 673 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 16: that they're being depleted after thirty eight days, and the 674 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 16: idea that they can just go on and do this 675 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 16: and definitely it doesn't match the assessments that are coming 676 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 16: out of Sentcom or the Pentagon or other sources. Now 677 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 16: there's some that still say they have so much there. 678 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 16: But the idea that we were able to fly two 679 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 16: rescue missions on two different days and fly American aircraft 680 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 16: MC one thirties and helicopters and a tens and fly 681 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 16: for seven hours over two hundred miles into Iran to 682 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 16: rescue two aviators is a demonstration. And I love San Fadis, 683 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 16: but I vote for me. What I heard yesterday from 684 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 16: the president's press conference was the Iranians are really incapable of. 685 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 17: Stopping us when we want to do something. Sure, they 686 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 17: fired up some missiles or some of these Project three 687 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 17: five to eight loitering surface air missiles, but in thirteen 688 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 17: five hundred combat sorties, that's maybe the only one that 689 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 17: they've actually successfully hit anything with. So I think the 690 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 17: evidence is from this. 691 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 16: What we're seeing is we're operating at will over Iran, 692 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 16: and when we go to turn the lights out and 693 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 16: we go to shut down their rail and road networks completely, 694 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 16: there's not going to be anything left for the regime 695 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 16: to do except kill their own citizens and maybe the 696 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 16: President has some plan there as well that he hasn't 697 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 16: told us about, and those people will be able to 698 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 16: do something against this regime. But right now the regime 699 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 16: is not what it was thirty eight days ago. There 700 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 16: is no supreme leader. Even in the last three or 701 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 16: four hours, we've seen some reporting where the Iranians are 702 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 16: saying we can't have a negotiation because our supreme leader 703 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 16: isn't really capable. So you know, two days ago, a 704 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 16: week ago, we were told he's in control. Now we're 705 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 16: hearing other backpedaling. So I think the facts on the 706 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 16: ground are that Iran is collapsing in the process of collapsing, 707 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 16: and tonight is going to really be dramatic. And I 708 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 16: think the precursor actions which seem to be coordinated between 709 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 16: Israel and the United States this morning are indicators to 710 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 16: again from the president. As Eric Bolling just said, the 711 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 16: President is a master not manipulating but pressing and getting 712 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 16: his point across to say, listen, you really need to 713 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 16: come and make a deal and bend a knee. 714 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 17: Bend the knee and this will all end. 715 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 16: And they may or may not do that, I expect 716 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 16: on what Sam's told us about their regime, So it's 717 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 16: going to get ugly before it gets better. 718 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 13: I don't think maybe they do, but I think their 719 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 13: mentality is, hey, we're winning here. 720 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 8: We have the initiative. Whether it's reality or not their realty. 721 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 13: Hang over a second, as we go to break out 722 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 13: a couple of minutes, put us in the room. You're 723 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 13: basically nine hours away, nine or ten hours away from 724 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 13: what could be a massive assault. What are the targeteers? 725 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 13: What's happening at Sencom's core group as they talk to 726 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 13: Ermol Cooper and they go through what is the what's 727 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 13: the work process flow right now? 728 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 16: Well, in the targeting world, all that work has been 729 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 16: done earlier. So right now as a targeteer, right before 730 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 16: these combat operations actually start this level, this next phase 731 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 16: of it, if you will, there's probably some calm because 732 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 16: now all the homework's been done. They know where all 733 00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 16: these facilities are, They've been paired up with what plas 734 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 16: and what munitions. They've done all the you know, munitions, 735 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 16: effectiveness assessments, They continuency planned as a president talked about 736 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 16: continuencies last night, So the planning is basically done. It's 737 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 16: now down to the execution. So the stress will be 738 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 16: out in the forward areas, in the our forward airfields 739 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 16: where the pilots are working with you, the ammunition loaders 740 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 16: and making sure that everything's right and prepared on their aircraft. 741 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 16: Same on our carriers. So if I'm a strike planner 742 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 16: on board the Lincoln, you know it's I'm still you know, 743 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 16: I'm still humping and making sure everything's right, that I'm 744 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 16: ready to go, locked and loaded in my mission. But 745 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 16: back at SynCon, everybody's like, Okay, we've picked all this. 746 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 16: They're working on the next phase. So they're preparing the 747 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 16: next phase of what else has to be done, and 748 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 16: as well as preparing the battle damage assessment teams. So 749 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 16: that battle damage assessment process is no longer just as 750 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 16: manual as it was when I did it in Desert Storm. 751 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 16: It's highly highly integrated today with AI and tools from 752 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 16: Pallenteer and overhead National systems collections and all of the 753 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 16: capabilities that we have to be able to get rapid 754 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 16: immediate feedback on how if we start this tonight, oh 755 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 16: we missed something, or let's put more pressure here. So 756 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 16: that's what we'll be going through and as always, the 757 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 16: priority will be on the safety of our airic crewmen 758 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 16: and aviators that are flying over the territory of Iran 759 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 16: to make sure that we don't get hurt, as well 760 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 16: as making sure that we're defending for the salvos that 761 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 16: are likely to come from Iran. 762 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 17: Back at US, hang on. 763 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 13: One second to the great Captain Jim fill the steely 764 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 13: resolve of the United States military on full display for 765 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 13: the world to save in the next twenty four hours. 766 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 3: Great excuse your. 767 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 6: Host, Stephen k back. 768 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 13: Now more than ever we've come out with the with 769 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 13: the West Texas Intermediate. It's now one hundred seventeen bucks. 770 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 13: Markets are all over the place, and of course, whatever 771 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 13: happens to night in the next nine, eight or nine hours, 772 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 13: we'll drive that even more. 773 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 8: Day by day. 774 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 13: We came out with the eighth free installment of the 775 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 13: end of the Dollar Empire. It's about the pressure being 776 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 13: put on the nice on the US dollar. Part of 777 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,919 Speaker 13: that is this massive spending proposed Pentagon budget is wait 778 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 13: for it, one point five trillion dollars. I don't think 779 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 13: that includes the two hundred billion that they're asking for 780 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 13: this war effort right here, and that does not include 781 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 13: what's going on here. 782 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 8: In the last couple of days, so the pressure on 783 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 8: that also. Whoever is controlling the straight. 784 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 13: Or her moves, I'm not so sure it Revolutionary Guard 785 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 13: as a group of pirates down in down in southern 786 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 13: Iran right on the cliffs there that have that have 787 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 13: had a good run for centuries of kind of living 788 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 13: there and screwing was shipping all the time. But they're 789 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 13: taking it in Chinese currency. And as Captain Fanel has 790 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 13: ground into US over a long period of time, keep 791 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 13: the main thing, the main thing, And so the bricks Nations, 792 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 13: which we kind of had on the ropes a little 793 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 13: bit after the rear reset, particularly with President Trump coming 794 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 13: back into office, now looks like this bricks thing is 795 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 13: back on fire and the Chinese Countist Party are doing 796 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 13: everything they could possibly do to destroy the US dollars. 797 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 13: So make sure you get the end of the dollar empire. 798 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 13: Five years now, we've been putting this out now the 799 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 13: eighth free installment. 800 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 8: Make sure you got it. 801 00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 13: And sometime this week given time, we're trying to break 802 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 13: down this budget proposal and also at the same time 803 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 13: talk to you about what the meaning of this about. 804 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 13: They're trying to go to they're trying to go to 805 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 13: break the Petro Dollar. But learn all about it and 806 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 13: talk to Philip Patrian team. That's the key thing. Get 807 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 13: to Philip Patrick and the team today as goal bounces 808 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 13: all around, Patrick cave Donald asked you to join us 809 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 13: because of major presidential decisions. The President of the United States, 810 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 13: the commander in chief of the most powerful military in 811 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 13: the history and world history, said today on a true 812 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 13: social this is one of the most important days in 813 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 13: the complex history of the world, with the decisions that 814 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,399 Speaker 13: will be made approximately or be executed upon around eight 815 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 13: pm Eastern daylight time today, the Iranians came back and said, hey, yo, 816 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 13: put it where the sun doesn't shine. We're breaking off 817 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 13: any communication. And then they came out afterwards and said, 818 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 13: don't even worry. You think her move is the problem. 819 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 13: We're going to shut off the Red Sea. Talk to 820 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 13: me about the scale of presidential decisions. You're someone that's 821 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 13: a great combat historian. You've written so many books about 822 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 13: war in America being in war of which every president, 823 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 13: I think all the major presidents are captured in your 824 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 13: in your writing. What's your sense of this? How big 825 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 13: a day do you put this? In the at least 826 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 13: the military history of the United States. 827 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 18: This is a massive and consequential day. This is an 828 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 18: incredibly important decision. And I think that this war is 829 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,959 Speaker 18: up there in terms of World War Two, in terms 830 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 18: of the moral importance of taking down the Iranian regime 831 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 18: and framing the Iranian people. And that's what it's really 832 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 18: all about. And now the question is how do you 833 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 18: go about that. It's complex, it's hard, but. 834 00:44:59,239 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 3: The accident. 835 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 13: Let me let me ask your premise, Let me ask you, 836 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 13: Let me ask you. Hang on, hang on, let me 837 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 13: ask your hang on, hang on, Let me ask you 838 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 13: about your premise. You were assigned as a combat historian 839 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 13: in the Iraq War. It's one of the most and 840 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 13: you gave. 841 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 8: A very powerful talk when we played the last six 842 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 8: hundred meters. You guys were there. You were with a 843 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 8: marine rifle unit. 844 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 2: Uh. 845 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 13: You came under fire as a combat historian because you 846 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,280 Speaker 13: embedded with these guys right at the tip of the spear. 847 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 13: That was I think in two thousand and six, roughly 848 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 13: twenty years later, for why do we give it? What? 849 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 15: What? 850 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 16: What more? 851 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 15: For? 852 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 8: Why why do why do we what is. 853 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 13: The moral imperative of freeing the Iranian people? Why do 854 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 13: we give a damn there are people all over the 855 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 13: world that are impaired like this. Why do we give 856 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 13: a damn about the Iranian people? The Iranian people. Let 857 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 13: me just remember, remind you, the Iranian people brought on this, uh, 858 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 13: this theocratic regime when they kicked us out unceremoniously so 859 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 13: and I realized that a lot of them had buyer's remorse. 860 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 8: But it sounds to me like a personal problem. Why 861 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 8: is this now a high moral cause? 862 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 3: Sir? 863 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 18: It's the invisible hand that's been fighting the United States 864 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 18: for forty seven years, killing many of the men that 865 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 18: I was in battle with in Fallujah, you know, destroying 866 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 18: the efforts in in Iraq that you know, many of 867 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 18: these soldiers and Marines, airmen, you know, gave their lives for. 868 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 18: This is a this is a regime that is bent 869 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 18: on destroying the United States as well. And it's now, 870 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 18: you know, we can debate about, you know, how this 871 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 18: occurred for for a long time, and I'm sure that's 872 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 18: gonna happen, But now it's about winning, and we have 873 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 18: to win, Steve, and we win by taking away their 874 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 18: oil revenue and and and that's that's it will collapse. 875 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 18: They are a dead man walking at this stage. And 876 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 18: now what they are trying to do is distract us 877 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 18: with the straight of Horror moves. It's a big distraction. 878 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 18: It's an important distraction. It is not the center of gravity. 879 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 18: The center of gravity needs to be destroying the Iranian regime. 880 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 8: Why do you say the center of gravity is regime. 881 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 8: They've been We've bombed them, as you know. 882 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 13: These sorties have been, these stories have been just brutal 883 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 13: for the last what thirty eight thirty nine days, They've 884 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 13: shifted the center of gravity to the Persian Gulf. And 885 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 13: in their mind, I'm not saying they're right, but in 886 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 13: their mind they have the initiative. 887 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 3: Sir Washington said, do not be drove. 888 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 18: In other words, never see the initiative to the enemy. 889 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 18: And that's why the straight of Her moves is an 890 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 18: incredibly important lifeline to the world's economy. But it's a distraction. 891 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 18: The key is freeing the Iranian people at this point 892 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 18: and removing the regime. Can any kind of deal is 893 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 18: going to be a situation where it's not worth the 894 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 18: paper it's written out. They're just going to lie, to 895 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 18: eat and steal and do what they always do. And 896 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 18: there's a real possibility if they're not removed, that they 897 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 18: will get stronger and much stronger, and they will be 898 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 18: stronger with their partners, with the Chinese and the Russians. 899 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 8: I tell you what, Patrick k o'donald, hang on for 900 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 8: a minute. I want to get more of. 901 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 13: Your important Jim Rickards is out and about, but he's 902 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 13: going to call in. We want to get the strategic 903 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 13: framing of Jim Rickards. We got Captain Fanel with us, 904 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,760 Speaker 13: Patrick K. O'donald, top combat historian every generation. 905 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 8: We're going to have much much more. 906 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 13: In the second hours, President Trump says, one of the 907 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 13: most consequential days in the history of the world. We're 908 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 13: going to take a short commercial break. The right stuff's 909 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 13: going to take us out. 910 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:53,439 Speaker 8: We back the moment.