WEBVTT - BONUS: Two Plastic Surgeons, Too Little Time!

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<v Speaker 1>So this is between us with me and doctor Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Schwartz best boobs in Dallas. Heather debro is doing is

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<v Speaker 1>off doing things with conflict and resolution. I think somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>with us, maybe some housewives or two. And I've got

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend, my favorite genius, doctor Robert Schwartz, ports

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<v Speaker 1>curified plastic surgeon from Dallas, and we're doing a bonus episode.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna answer some banned questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and let's uh, let's go through these pretty quickly

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<v Speaker 1>and give some really fun, interesting take home message answers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>fan question everyone, I have a dv AD sceptum.

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<v Speaker 2>What do I dot plastic?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it depends you go to a doctor plastic surgeon

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<v Speaker 1>or your no's threats. I have a dv accept they go, great,

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<v Speaker 1>lie down here, let me cut you open. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it depends. What does that mean to have a deva septum?

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<v Speaker 1>If your DVAN septum is causing significant airway obstruction?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>But if everybody has a devaated septum and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a spine, does anybody really have a straight spine?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you did a cat scam on one

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people with no airway obstruction. Nine hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>eight of them would have some deviation of their septum.

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<v Speaker 2>So a deviated septum in.

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<v Speaker 1>And of itself is not necessarily an anatomic geometric structure.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is what is it doing to you functionally,

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<v Speaker 1>So it depends, you know, go to a doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually or potentially cosmatically. Yeah, it may be causing a

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<v Speaker 3>visible outward curve of the nose, and so there's fixes

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<v Speaker 3>for that. Yeah, So in and of itself, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily mean anything. But I'm assuming that anyone's saying that

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<v Speaker 3>didn't just I don't know, take photos of their own

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<v Speaker 3>septum and just some they've had some symptom from that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in the past, it was the way the plastic

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<v Speaker 1>surgeon could get it paid for by insurance calling it deviated.

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<v Speaker 2>And then those days are long gone, yes, and now.

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<v Speaker 1>People are very helpy to discuss their plastic surgery. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was a way that you could justify to your

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<v Speaker 1>friends having your rhinoplasty. Oh, my nose looks completely different

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<v Speaker 1>because I had a deviated septem while I was there.

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<v Speaker 2>I had them take a little bit of the bump off.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, all right, yeah, those days are over.

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<v Speaker 2>I know number two.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been getting filler for years and now my face

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<v Speaker 1>looks puffy. Ah, what's happening under the skin? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to grab that one?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a number of things that could be happening

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<v Speaker 3>under the skin. The first is that depending on what

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<v Speaker 3>the filler is and how much has been put in,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not always going away, right, and so it can

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<v Speaker 3>build up over time. And I think I think people

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<v Speaker 3>talk about filler migrating. I think that's less of a

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<v Speaker 3>thing that it is claimed. I don't think it's that

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<v Speaker 3>easy for it to move around. But I think giant

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<v Speaker 3>globs of it can certainly deform your face after a while, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And probably large amounts of it caused some inflammatory processes

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<v Speaker 3>under there. Some of them are tended to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Sculptra radys, those are intended to cause inflammation, right. But

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<v Speaker 3>so it can make changes over time.

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<v Speaker 2>Very important points.

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<v Speaker 1>So if your doctor goes, don't worry about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>put filler in.

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<v Speaker 2>It all dissolves.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if it's hyaluronic acid, it may not dissolve and

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<v Speaker 1>probably won't, And recent studies based on mmerise have shown

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<v Speaker 1>it probably hangs and then it attracts a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>water and then it can cause scarring and just as

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<v Speaker 1>you said, the inflammatory reaction. So your face is puffy

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<v Speaker 1>because you may have had too much filler, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would immediately less is more, and immediately if it's looking puffy,

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<v Speaker 1>go get some hyluron a dase, which is an enzyme

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<v Speaker 1>that dissolves it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm twenty you had.

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<v Speaker 3>A hyaluronic acid filler in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. I'm twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Starting to see early Choweli, Am I too young to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything about that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're seeing a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 1>People wanting to come in now with the early face,

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<v Speaker 1>wanting early facelif surgery is everything else that you like

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<v Speaker 1>to tell your patients maybe to consider before a facelift

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<v Speaker 1>for jewling.

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<v Speaker 3>I well, I would generally on someone that young, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure that it's even aging at that point. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's just your facial anatomy. And I've had a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of success with those things. Again, well, using filler basically,

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<v Speaker 3>and basically I inject some filler in front of the jaw,

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit behind it. It smoothed out the jow.

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<v Speaker 3>It essentially makes it invisible. But I think at that age,

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<v Speaker 3>unless there's something strange going on, a facelift is vastly

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<v Speaker 3>overkill for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, twenty eight early jelling. You may just have gained

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<v Speaker 1>a little weight, you know, and so you might or

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<v Speaker 1>lost a little weight or something.

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<v Speaker 2>But Mike, but I don't think the face.

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<v Speaker 3>Off is the plus estata nindage yourself. Yeah, you're twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>You probably look great.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not having a face ok.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I want to breast dougmentation, but I'm scared about

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<v Speaker 1>what they'll look like when I'm older. Should I be

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<v Speaker 1>answer I think is yes, But it depends, right, You

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<v Speaker 1>should always be scared about any plastics or procedures going

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<v Speaker 1>to look like when you're older.

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<v Speaker 2>Having said that, probably.

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<v Speaker 3>You should just be scared of what you're look like

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<v Speaker 3>when you're older. Now that I'm old, if I had

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<v Speaker 3>known it was going to be this, I would have

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<v Speaker 3>been terrified a lot. There's nothing good happening.

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<v Speaker 1>No, But I think, what do you think the average

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<v Speaker 1>age for rob What do you think the average age

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<v Speaker 1>for a faith a breast domentation is.

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<v Speaker 3>In my practice probably thirties.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I think thirty mid.

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<v Speaker 3>Forties or so. But I mean all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so twenty eight you should be worried and that

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't go too big. Don't push the envelope too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of your twenty eight the chance that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to want to have children is probably high. And then

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<v Speaker 1>if you go very big and then have children with

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<v Speaker 1>all the concomitants weight gain on top of that, then

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to stretch out your skinny more skin even more.

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<v Speaker 1>And then after the first child, you're not only going

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<v Speaker 1>to need a downsize, but you're probably going to need

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<v Speaker 1>an early lift, which you absolutely want to avoid because

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<v Speaker 1>of the scarring is associated with lyft. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>less is better when it comes to a breast dogment.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think that the average size and ccs

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing you're putting in people today around age thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>In the range of about in the range of the

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<v Speaker 3>upper three.

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<v Speaker 2>Hundreds lower four hum, What was it twenty years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>For me? It was four fifty to five fifty. It's

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<v Speaker 2>gotten smaller.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think it was this? I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>the same for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Honest, even in Dallas where everything is bigger, best boobs.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never been the guy for that. Now if I

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<v Speaker 3>have someone who comes in. I have a very elaborate

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<v Speaker 3>consultation process to figure out what size put in. But

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<v Speaker 3>I've never firs thought. I've never been the guy that

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<v Speaker 3>pushes them to go bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>Either, and everything very common.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I remember you and I sitting in a

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<v Speaker 3>meeting once at more than once probably where some guy

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<v Speaker 3>up on the stage goes, you know, whatever your patient

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<v Speaker 3>tells they want put in two sizes bigger. It's this

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<v Speaker 3>patronizing Oh the little lady doesn't know what she really means, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember turning to him going, did he just

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<v Speaker 3>really say that in public?

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>It really is. So Look, I think you have a

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<v Speaker 3>finite amount of real estate on your chest, and if

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<v Speaker 3>you if you push over this, then you're just more

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<v Speaker 3>likely to have problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what do you tell patients how long implants should last?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the old days, and a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>still think, oh, at ten years, I'm supposed to change

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<v Speaker 1>them out.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you tell your patients?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't tell them that anymore. I tell them, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time I was telling them expect that

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<v Speaker 3>they're going they're going to need to be changed at

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<v Speaker 3>some point because they league right, you know, and historic

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<v Speaker 3>they've been telling patients to expect tens or twenty years.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually think it's a little longer than that with

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<v Speaker 3>modern implants. So I'm closer like twelve to twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>or so.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm forty one. I've never done botox. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to try, but I'm worried. It literally says

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<v Speaker 1>toxin in the name of it. I'm trying not to

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<v Speaker 1>put toxins in my body.

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<v Speaker 2>I not.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there long term effects from botox? Is is it

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<v Speaker 1>toxic for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we've been doing botox now for over twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five years in the society, and large amounts, so you

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<v Speaker 3>should all be dead. I agree, I think I think. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>everything is a toxin. It's all question of dosages, right, So,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, on the one of the saddest things you

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<v Speaker 3>see in an er is people who swallow a bottle

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<v Speaker 3>of thailanol in a suicide gesture, only to find out

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<v Speaker 3>that not only are you going to die, there's pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much nothing short of a liver transplant that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>prevent that. It's the dose, and so the amount of

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<v Speaker 3>dosage that you're putting in with botox is not going

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<v Speaker 3>to harm you unless injected in some bizarre, irrational way.

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<v Speaker 1>I think botox is one of the most benign things

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<v Speaker 1>that a plastic surgeon or dermatologist does, and that you

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<v Speaker 1>almost I think it looks weird when you put too

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<v Speaker 1>much in, particularly.

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<v Speaker 2>For a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You should have lines. Don't go for the bowling ball

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<v Speaker 1>head with the shiny head. But uh, I think botox

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<v Speaker 1>is extraordinarily safe. I will tell you that the only

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<v Speaker 1>problem I've had on boat with botox, and I've had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of botox in my life, is that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't work on me anymore because I've formed antibodies to botox.

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<v Speaker 1>So unless I use Daxify, which is like fifth generation botox,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work at all. And even Daxify doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>work very well for very long on me.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, that's also getting older. Nothing everything works less.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, my under eye bags make me look exhausted even

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm not What are my options under eye bags? Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's a two hour podcast right there. How can

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<v Speaker 1>you sort of, you know, summarize that with a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of sentences.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, under eye aging is a very complicated Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>very complicated anatomy and it requires a very careful diagnosis

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<v Speaker 3>because sometimes the problem isn't even the eyelids, it's the

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<v Speaker 3>upper cheeks yeap. Sometimes it's the hollow between the cheeks,

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<v Speaker 3>the island that makes the islands of baggie. Sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 3>true fat coming out of your eye sockets and yep retruding.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so the the answer could be as simple as

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<v Speaker 3>some filler, right. It might even be just some skin gear.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it's literally a mid facelift to shorten the height

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<v Speaker 3>of the lower lids, and sometimes it's a traditional leproplasty

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<v Speaker 3>to tighten the skin.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's so it's very individualized. It's very hard to

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<v Speaker 1>answer this with a simple answer. But I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, filler in the lower iselid areas become a

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<v Speaker 1>lot less popular these days because of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the complications that people have realized. So if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have we use this word we like to use called judicious.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna have filler put in your lower eyelids,

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<v Speaker 1>have the surgeon or dermatologists do it judiciously. Less is better,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you got very deep hollows with very significant

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<v Speaker 1>pillowing in your lower eyelids. Don't maybe try to even

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<v Speaker 1>all that out with a lot of filler, and I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't. It doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>Work, It's not gonna work, and then it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>cause scar you know, it can cause scarring or nodularity

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<v Speaker 1>and be a real problem that we've that Paul and

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<v Speaker 1>I have been seeing on botch So be careful with

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<v Speaker 1>the filler, all right. How do I know if my

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<v Speaker 1>surgeon is actually good or just good? At Instagram? I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're all good at Instagram. Okay, So instagramming in

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<v Speaker 1>and of itself doesn't mean deadly. Unfortunately, we're all sort

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<v Speaker 1>of influenced by Instagram because I'm like a thirteen year old.

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<v Speaker 1>I sproll all day long, like a mindless idiot looking

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<v Speaker 1>at cats. And I know I'm embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's you know where this takes me mentally?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, you know it takes me. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 2>you know you look at.

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<v Speaker 3>My inside at some point on this podcast, Yeah I will.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's let's hold that for another time. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think Instagram, you know, is it's just the new way

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<v Speaker 1>to advertise your practice. You're putting your very best pictures

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<v Speaker 1>and what I really, by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Thinks about things about an education meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I try not to get bugged by the plastic

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<v Speaker 1>surgeon sitting there in his scrubs and somebody goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, doctor so and so, rate this from what zero

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<v Speaker 2>to ten?

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<v Speaker 1>That really bugs me, as if as if you can

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<v Speaker 1>rate it, you know, for all patients based on one

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<v Speaker 1>individual rating system. It's so ridiculous, you know, uh Blaffer

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<v Speaker 1>plus it's a six. Oh, breast augmentation, that's a nine. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a breast of augmentation. Doctor, deep plane facelift, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's a two. Oh, you don't do deep playing, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that those things take those all with a big

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<v Speaker 1>giant grain of salt.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, maybe actually avoid those surgeons because you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, it's unsurgeon like. It just is. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps if your surgeon does reels where he does choreograph

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<v Speaker 3>dance free teams with his nurses, maybe that's not a

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<v Speaker 3>serious enough person to be doing your surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a little too much free time, right, because.

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<v Speaker 3>We're little too much free time.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the one thing you wish every patient knew

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<v Speaker 1>before they walked into your office? For me, how incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>good looking and tall. I actually am no kidding you

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<v Speaker 1>know what.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish that too, if they'd walk in there knowing

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<v Speaker 3>how incredibly tall and good looking you are. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>I often think. I go. Have I ever told you

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<v Speaker 3>about my friend Harry Debro You may know him from Bosch,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's also incredibly tall.

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<v Speaker 2>And good despite what you see on TV face for rad.

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<v Speaker 3>You're tall and very and very very good looking.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think for me, I used to rue the

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<v Speaker 1>day that the patients would come to ARM with Google

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<v Speaker 1>Search knowledge, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I hated that.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually wish they would look at chat chept and

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<v Speaker 1>ask Chatchept some preliminary question because I think Chat CVT

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<v Speaker 1>or any of the other language learning models and thrawpicked,

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<v Speaker 1>Gemini and Blabba Perplection whatever not.

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<v Speaker 2>Grock, Croc sarcastic.

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<v Speaker 1>I love gro but it is actually very good at

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<v Speaker 1>giving you sort of a general informational you know, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of syllabus primer before you come in. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>I wish they knew a little bit of what Rock

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<v Speaker 1>or one of the other lmms is going to tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you what would you say?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I haven't How about you get

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<v Speaker 1>what you pay for if the plastic surgeon's too inexpensive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think, I guess, I guess along those lines,

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<v Speaker 3>I would wish that they would understand that when you're purchasing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, whatever it is, let's say, a breast augmentation,

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<v Speaker 3>are facelift or whatever. It's not like you're buying a buick.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no such thing as a breast augmentation. It is

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<v Speaker 3>a rough categorization of techniques that will be done differently

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<v Speaker 3>by any surgeon that you see. And so it it's

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<v Speaker 3>not like going and buying a Toyota at one dealership

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<v Speaker 3>or the same cart another dealership. There's no way you're

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<v Speaker 3>getting the same thing. And so you need to form

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<v Speaker 3>that connection with the surgeon and the consultation you make.

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<v Speaker 3>You need to make sure they understand you very clearly

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<v Speaker 3>and have a clear target of what it is that

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<v Speaker 3>you want, and that you get a sense in your

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<v Speaker 3>gut that okay, we've got to figure because if you don't,

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<v Speaker 3>don't do it right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had a baby a year ago. My body

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't feel like mine anymore. What is a mommy

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<v Speaker 1>make over? And is it worth it?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say mommy makeover is typically something with the breast,

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<v Speaker 1>something with the tummy. It's usually either breast dougmentation plus

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<v Speaker 1>or minus lyft or at least a lyft and a

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<v Speaker 1>tummy tuck right usually suction and or a LiPo section,

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<v Speaker 1>which is often part and parcel of a dominoplasty.

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<v Speaker 2>A tummy tuck operation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that is one of the most worth

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<v Speaker 1>it procedures, depending on where you are in your stage

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<v Speaker 1>of life and depending what weight you're at. Okay, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you still really haven't lost a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>baby weight, even though you may really want a mommy makeover,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe go on a GLP one and get

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<v Speaker 1>get your weight down because you'll get much better results

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<v Speaker 1>closer to you, more idealized BMI, but above you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think mommy makeovers, generally speaking, are extraordinarily. We

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<v Speaker 1>were going to do a segment on the podcast that

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<v Speaker 1>we did previously about operations that are almost always worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is one that's almost always worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you agree?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And I think this warrant's talking about in more

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<v Speaker 3>detail in the future because I think what women go

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<v Speaker 3>through following pregnancy, there is no equivalent from them where

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<v Speaker 3>you start off and you have your girlish body, your

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<v Speaker 3>youthful body, and in the span of like a year,

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<v Speaker 3>it's completely transformed. Yeah, you know, we you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>lose our hair over decades. It's for a man, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like waking up one you know, going to bed with

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<v Speaker 3>the full head of hair and waking up bald in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>It's shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the one thing people spend money on that

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<v Speaker 1>you think is completely worth it and sort of in

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<v Speaker 1>the same vein, and one thing that's totally overhyped? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>with this is a whole another two hour podcast, But

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<v Speaker 1>what what I think?

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<v Speaker 2>Again?

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Mommy makeover is completely worth it if

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing at the right stage of your life and

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<v Speaker 1>you're healthy, and you're at your pretty close to your

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<v Speaker 1>ideal body. Way, would you agree the Bomby makeover is brilliant?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? I think the Mommy Makeover totally delivers. I think modestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, on a much simpler level, breast

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<v Speaker 3>implants totally deliver.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would agree with that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they totally deliver. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>In the future, we have talked about the new kind

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<v Speaker 1>of breast implants and what you think about them, those

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<v Speaker 1>motivas because at lower rate of caps or contractor. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>and the one thing that's totally overhyped, boy, you could

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<v Speaker 1>you could separate that into surgical and non surgical categories.

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<v Speaker 2>But the nons. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though the future UH of plastic surgery will be

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<v Speaker 1>non surgical energy delivery devices to tighten the skin, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of shameful. Knock, it's still not it's I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the most overhyped come in I have. I just

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<v Speaker 1>bought spent this one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>on this device, and I need to get my return

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<v Speaker 1>on investment, and it causes so much tightening without a scalpel.

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<v Speaker 2>Its over hype. Would you agree with.

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<v Speaker 3>That the laser Chotski djure is the most over hype thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like going back to we need to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>this sometimes. The first laser thing we went to together

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<v Speaker 3>in like the ninety end light see end light, save

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<v Speaker 3>that the stone light makes new collagen in your skin,

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<v Speaker 3>as has every bullshit device since then. If an aggregate

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<v Speaker 3>of one pound of collagen has been made worldwide, I'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Be amazed by the way it was. The world's most

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<v Speaker 2>expensive flashlight. If that it absolute?

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, you want to hear something pathetic, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing I ever saw it do plus or

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<v Speaker 1>minus is caused some mild hyper pigmentation. It never caused

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<v Speaker 1>any significant tightening.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it did have one benefit. I think it

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<v Speaker 3>really started to hone your acting skills. Walking in, they're going,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, look at you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the greatest thing ever. Right, Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And then finally, is there anything you simply won't do

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<v Speaker 1>a procedure you turn patients away for you know what

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<v Speaker 1>it is for me, right, I will not do a

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<v Speaker 1>Brazilian butt lift. I just don't think something that has

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<v Speaker 1>a risk of fatality to it for me. Okay that

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<v Speaker 1>even if, even if we've learned how to do it

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<v Speaker 1>much more favorably with a much lower risk of fatality,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just too bloody scary, you know, as a medical

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<v Speaker 1>legal guy who does a lot of this in a career,

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<v Speaker 1>to certified expert a California medical cort, I'm still seeing

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<v Speaker 1>and you're still seeing in the media, you know, fatalities

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<v Speaker 1>from the Brazilian butt lift.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't touch it. I just won't. What about you?

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<v Speaker 3>There are a number of things that I won't do,

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<v Speaker 3>and one of them has nothing to do with the

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<v Speaker 3>procedure itself. I don't do rhinoplastic, Okay. Reason I don't

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<v Speaker 3>do rhinoplast I think rhinoplasty is I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 3>anything wrong with the procedure. I don't do them because

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<v Speaker 3>I think, even in the best hands, it's an operation

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<v Speaker 3>that has too much unpredictability in the healing, at least

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<v Speaker 3>for me. Yeah, I want to do things where I know,

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm aiming for this, I might go to this,

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<v Speaker 3>or I might go to this. But the problem with

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<v Speaker 3>rhinoplasty is very often what you're trying to do is

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<v Speaker 3>change things by millimeters because you're dealing with the way

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<v Speaker 3>the body heals, an unpredictable skin tightening and unpredictable amounts

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<v Speaker 3>of scarr and all these things. Small changes, small variabilities

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<v Speaker 3>in the result are the difference, especially on the nose,

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<v Speaker 3>between a great result and one that never quite looks right.

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<v Speaker 3>And even in guys I know, look, I trained, you

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<v Speaker 3>know some of the best rhino blastis in the world, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and at ut Southwestern, even in their hands, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>an unacceptable degree of unpredictability for my taste. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't want to do procedures like right.

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<v Speaker 1>Two millimeters of difference in nipple height. You can't see it, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't even really measure matter, but two millimeters. We

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<v Speaker 1>used to have this expression, right, because we love these

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<v Speaker 1>sort of coined expressions in plast Thirty millimeters are miles

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to rhino plastic surgery.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, And you can't control, and you don't have control,

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have fine control at the level you need

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<v Speaker 3>fine control to hit that operation out of the park

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<v Speaker 3>every time. And if that's going to be the case,

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't want to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yet another fascinating episode of Bonus episode with doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Schwartz, Boob, God of Dallas, genius and my best friend.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much, thank you. Good