Speaker 1: So this is between us with me and doctor Robert
Speaker 1: Schwartz best boobs in Dallas. Heather debro is doing is
Speaker 1: off doing things with conflict and resolution. I think somewhere
Speaker 1: with us, maybe some housewives or two. And I've got
Speaker 1: my best friend, my favorite genius, doctor Robert Schwartz, ports
Speaker 1: curified plastic surgeon from Dallas, and we're doing a bonus episode.
Speaker 2: We're gonna answer some banned questions.
Speaker 1: Okay, and let's uh, let's go through these pretty quickly
Speaker 1: and give some really fun, interesting take home message answers. Okay,
Speaker 1: fan question everyone, I have a dv AD sceptum.
Speaker 2: What do I dot plastic?
Speaker 1: Well, it depends you go to a doctor plastic surgeon
Speaker 1: or your no's threats. I have a dv accept they go, great,
Speaker 1: lie down here, let me cut you open. I mean
Speaker 1: it depends. What does that mean to have a deva septum?
Speaker 1: If your DVAN septum is causing significant airway obstruction?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: But if everybody has a devaated septum and it's like
Speaker 1: a spine, does anybody really have a straight spine?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: I think if you did a cat scam on one
Speaker 1: thousand people with no airway obstruction. Nine hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: eight of them would have some deviation of their septum.
Speaker 2: So a deviated septum in.
Speaker 1: And of itself is not necessarily an anatomic geometric structure.
Speaker 1: It really is what is it doing to you functionally,
Speaker 1: So it depends, you know, go to a doctor.
Speaker 3: Usually or potentially cosmatically. Yeah, it may be causing a
Speaker 3: visible outward curve of the nose, and so there's fixes
Speaker 3: for that. Yeah, So in and of itself, it doesn't
Speaker 3: necessarily mean anything. But I'm assuming that anyone's saying that
Speaker 3: didn't just I don't know, take photos of their own
Speaker 3: septum and just some they've had some symptom from that.
Speaker 1: Well, in the past, it was the way the plastic
Speaker 1: surgeon could get it paid for by insurance calling it deviated.
Speaker 2: And then those days are long gone, yes, and now.
Speaker 1: People are very helpy to discuss their plastic surgery. But
Speaker 1: it was a way that you could justify to your
Speaker 1: friends having your rhinoplasty. Oh, my nose looks completely different
Speaker 1: because I had a deviated septem while I was there.
Speaker 2: I had them take a little bit of the bump off.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, all right, yeah, those days are over.
Speaker 2: I know number two.
Speaker 1: I've been getting filler for years and now my face
Speaker 1: looks puffy. Ah, what's happening under the skin? Do you
Speaker 1: want to grab that one?
Speaker 3: Well, there's a number of things that could be happening
Speaker 3: under the skin. The first is that depending on what
Speaker 3: the filler is and how much has been put in,
Speaker 3: it's not always going away, right, and so it can
Speaker 3: build up over time. And I think I think people
Speaker 3: talk about filler migrating. I think that's less of a
Speaker 3: thing that it is claimed. I don't think it's that
Speaker 3: easy for it to move around. But I think giant
Speaker 3: globs of it can certainly deform your face after a while, right,
Speaker 3: And probably large amounts of it caused some inflammatory processes
Speaker 3: under there. Some of them are tended to do that.
Speaker 3: Sculptra radys, those are intended to cause inflammation, right. But
Speaker 3: so it can make changes over time.
Speaker 2: Very important points.
Speaker 1: So if your doctor goes, don't worry about it, but
Speaker 1: put filler in.
Speaker 2: It all dissolves.
Speaker 1: Even if it's hyaluronic acid, it may not dissolve and
Speaker 1: probably won't, And recent studies based on mmerise have shown
Speaker 1: it probably hangs and then it attracts a lot of
Speaker 1: water and then it can cause scarring and just as
Speaker 1: you said, the inflammatory reaction. So your face is puffy
Speaker 1: because you may have had too much filler, and I
Speaker 1: would immediately less is more, and immediately if it's looking puffy,
Speaker 1: go get some hyluron a dase, which is an enzyme
Speaker 1: that dissolves it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm twenty you had.
Speaker 3: A hyaluronic acid filler in the first place.
Speaker 2: That's true. I'm twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Starting to see early Choweli, Am I too young to
Speaker 1: do anything about that.
Speaker 2: We're seeing a lot of that.
Speaker 1: People wanting to come in now with the early face,
Speaker 1: wanting early facelif surgery is everything else that you like
Speaker 1: to tell your patients maybe to consider before a facelift
Speaker 1: for jewling.
Speaker 3: I well, I would generally on someone that young, I'm
Speaker 3: not sure that it's even aging at that point. I
Speaker 3: think it's just your facial anatomy. And I've had a
Speaker 3: lot of success with those things. Again, well, using filler basically,
Speaker 3: and basically I inject some filler in front of the jaw,
Speaker 3: a little bit behind it. It smoothed out the jow.
Speaker 3: It essentially makes it invisible. But I think at that age,
Speaker 3: unless there's something strange going on, a facelift is vastly
Speaker 3: overkill for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty eight early jelling. You may just have gained
Speaker 1: a little weight, you know, and so you might or
Speaker 1: lost a little weight or something.
Speaker 2: But Mike, but I don't think the face.
Speaker 3: Off is the plus estata nindage yourself. Yeah, you're twenty eight.
Speaker 3: You probably look great.
Speaker 2: You're not having a face ok.
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to breast dougmentation, but I'm scared about
Speaker 1: what they'll look like when I'm older. Should I be
Speaker 1: answer I think is yes, But it depends, right, You
Speaker 1: should always be scared about any plastics or procedures going
Speaker 1: to look like when you're older.
Speaker 2: Having said that, probably.
Speaker 3: You should just be scared of what you're look like
Speaker 3: when you're older. Now that I'm old, if I had
Speaker 3: known it was going to be this, I would have
Speaker 3: been terrified a lot. There's nothing good happening.
Speaker 1: No, But I think, what do you think the average
Speaker 1: age for rob What do you think the average age
Speaker 1: for a faith a breast domentation is.
Speaker 3: In my practice probably thirties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think thirty mid.
Speaker 3: Forties or so. But I mean all over the place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so twenty eight you should be worried and that
Speaker 1: you shouldn't go too big. Don't push the envelope too much.
Speaker 1: Because of your twenty eight the chance that you're going
Speaker 1: to want to have children is probably high. And then
Speaker 1: if you go very big and then have children with
Speaker 1: all the concomitants weight gain on top of that, then
Speaker 1: it's going to stretch out your skinny more skin even more.
Speaker 1: And then after the first child, you're not only going
Speaker 1: to need a downsize, but you're probably going to need
Speaker 1: an early lift, which you absolutely want to avoid because
Speaker 1: of the scarring is associated with lyft. So I think
Speaker 1: less is better when it comes to a breast dogment.
Speaker 1: What do you think that the average size and ccs
Speaker 1: you're seeing you're putting in people today around age thirty.
Speaker 3: In the range of about in the range of the
Speaker 3: upper three.
Speaker 2: Hundreds lower four hum, What was it twenty years ago?
Speaker 2: For me? It was four fifty to five fifty. It's
Speaker 2: gotten smaller.
Speaker 3: Do you think it was this? I think it was
Speaker 3: the same for me.
Speaker 1: Honest, even in Dallas where everything is bigger, best boobs.
Speaker 3: I've never been the guy for that. Now if I
Speaker 3: have someone who comes in. I have a very elaborate
Speaker 3: consultation process to figure out what size put in. But
Speaker 3: I've never firs thought. I've never been the guy that
Speaker 3: pushes them to go bigger.
Speaker 2: Either, and everything very common.
Speaker 3: In fact, I remember you and I sitting in a
Speaker 3: meeting once at more than once probably where some guy
Speaker 3: up on the stage goes, you know, whatever your patient
Speaker 3: tells they want put in two sizes bigger. It's this
Speaker 3: patronizing Oh the little lady doesn't know what she really means, right,
Speaker 3: And I remember turning to him going, did he just
Speaker 3: really say that in public?
Speaker 2: It's amazing, isn't it?
Speaker 3: It really is. So Look, I think you have a
Speaker 3: finite amount of real estate on your chest, and if
Speaker 3: you if you push over this, then you're just more
Speaker 3: likely to have problems.
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you tell patients how long implants should last?
Speaker 1: I remember the old days, and a lot of them
Speaker 1: still think, oh, at ten years, I'm supposed to change
Speaker 1: them out.
Speaker 2: What do you tell your patients?
Speaker 3: I don't tell them that anymore. I tell them, you know,
Speaker 3: for a long time I was telling them expect that
Speaker 3: they're going they're going to need to be changed at
Speaker 3: some point because they league right, you know, and historic
Speaker 3: they've been telling patients to expect tens or twenty years.
Speaker 3: I actually think it's a little longer than that with
Speaker 3: modern implants. So I'm closer like twelve to twenty five
Speaker 3: or so.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm forty one. I've never done botox. I think
Speaker 1: I'm ready to try, but I'm worried. It literally says
Speaker 1: toxin in the name of it. I'm trying not to
Speaker 1: put toxins in my body.
Speaker 2: I not.
Speaker 1: Are there long term effects from botox? Is is it
Speaker 1: toxic for you?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: I mean we've been doing botox now for over twenty
Speaker 3: five years in the society, and large amounts, so you
Speaker 3: should all be dead. I agree, I think I think. Look,
Speaker 3: everything is a toxin. It's all question of dosages, right, So,
Speaker 3: you know, on the one of the saddest things you
Speaker 3: see in an er is people who swallow a bottle
Speaker 3: of thailanol in a suicide gesture, only to find out
Speaker 3: that not only are you going to die, there's pretty
Speaker 3: much nothing short of a liver transplant that's going to
Speaker 3: prevent that. It's the dose, and so the amount of
Speaker 3: dosage that you're putting in with botox is not going
Speaker 3: to harm you unless injected in some bizarre, irrational way.
Speaker 1: I think botox is one of the most benign things
Speaker 1: that a plastic surgeon or dermatologist does, and that you
Speaker 1: almost I think it looks weird when you put too
Speaker 1: much in, particularly.
Speaker 2: For a guy.
Speaker 1: You should have lines. Don't go for the bowling ball
Speaker 1: head with the shiny head. But uh, I think botox
Speaker 1: is extraordinarily safe. I will tell you that the only
Speaker 1: problem I've had on boat with botox, and I've had
Speaker 1: a lot of botox in my life, is that they
Speaker 1: don't work on me anymore because I've formed antibodies to botox.
Speaker 1: So unless I use Daxify, which is like fifth generation botox,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work at all. And even Daxify doesn't really
Speaker 1: work very well for very long on me.
Speaker 3: So yes, that's also getting older. Nothing everything works less.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Okay, my under eye bags make me look exhausted even
Speaker 1: when I'm not What are my options under eye bags? Boy,
Speaker 1: that's that's a two hour podcast right there. How can
Speaker 1: you sort of, you know, summarize that with a couple
Speaker 1: of sentences.
Speaker 3: Well, under eye aging is a very complicated Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: very complicated anatomy and it requires a very careful diagnosis
Speaker 3: because sometimes the problem isn't even the eyelids, it's the
Speaker 3: upper cheeks yeap. Sometimes it's the hollow between the cheeks,
Speaker 3: the island that makes the islands of baggie. Sometimes it's
Speaker 3: true fat coming out of your eye sockets and yep retruding.
Speaker 3: It's so the the answer could be as simple as
Speaker 3: some filler, right. It might even be just some skin gear.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's literally a mid facelift to shorten the height
Speaker 3: of the lower lids, and sometimes it's a traditional leproplasty
Speaker 3: to tighten the skin.
Speaker 1: So it's so it's very individualized. It's very hard to
Speaker 1: answer this with a simple answer. But I would say,
Speaker 1: you know, filler in the lower iselid areas become a
Speaker 1: lot less popular these days because of a lot of
Speaker 1: the complications that people have realized. So if you're gonna
Speaker 1: have we use this word we like to use called judicious.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna have filler put in your lower eyelids,
Speaker 1: have the surgeon or dermatologists do it judiciously. Less is better,
Speaker 1: And if you got very deep hollows with very significant
Speaker 1: pillowing in your lower eyelids. Don't maybe try to even
Speaker 1: all that out with a lot of filler, and I can't.
Speaker 2: You can't. It doesn't work.
Speaker 1: Work, It's not gonna work, and then it's going to
Speaker 1: cause scar you know, it can cause scarring or nodularity
Speaker 1: and be a real problem that we've that Paul and
Speaker 1: I have been seeing on botch So be careful with
Speaker 1: the filler, all right. How do I know if my
Speaker 1: surgeon is actually good or just good? At Instagram? I
Speaker 1: think they're all good at Instagram. Okay, So instagramming in
Speaker 1: and of itself doesn't mean deadly. Unfortunately, we're all sort
Speaker 1: of influenced by Instagram because I'm like a thirteen year old.
Speaker 1: I sproll all day long, like a mindless idiot looking
Speaker 1: at cats. And I know I'm embarrassing.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know.
Speaker 3: It's you know where this takes me mentally?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, you know it takes me. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: you know you look at.
Speaker 3: My inside at some point on this podcast, Yeah I will.
Speaker 1: Well, let's let's hold that for another time. But I
Speaker 1: think Instagram, you know, is it's just the new way
Speaker 1: to advertise your practice. You're putting your very best pictures
Speaker 1: and what I really, by the way.
Speaker 3: Thinks about things about an education meeting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I try not to get bugged by the plastic
Speaker 1: surgeon sitting there in his scrubs and somebody goes.
Speaker 2: Hey, doctor so and so, rate this from what zero
Speaker 2: to ten?
Speaker 1: That really bugs me, as if as if you can
Speaker 1: rate it, you know, for all patients based on one
Speaker 1: individual rating system. It's so ridiculous, you know, uh Blaffer
Speaker 1: plus it's a six. Oh, breast augmentation, that's a nine. Well,
Speaker 1: he's a breast of augmentation. Doctor, deep plane facelift, Oh
Speaker 1: that's a two. Oh, you don't do deep playing, you know.
Speaker 1: It's that those things take those all with a big
Speaker 1: giant grain of salt.
Speaker 3: You know what, maybe actually avoid those surgeons because you
Speaker 3: know what, it's unsurgeon like. It just is. You know,
Speaker 3: perhaps if your surgeon does reels where he does choreograph
Speaker 3: dance free teams with his nurses, maybe that's not a
Speaker 3: serious enough person to be doing your surgery.
Speaker 2: He has a little too much free time, right, because.
Speaker 3: We're little too much free time.
Speaker 1: What is the one thing you wish every patient knew
Speaker 1: before they walked into your office? For me, how incredibly
Speaker 1: good looking and tall. I actually am no kidding you
Speaker 1: know what.
Speaker 3: I wish that too, if they'd walk in there knowing
Speaker 3: how incredibly tall and good looking you are. That's what
Speaker 3: I often think. I go. Have I ever told you
Speaker 3: about my friend Harry Debro You may know him from Bosch,
Speaker 3: but he's also incredibly tall.
Speaker 2: And good despite what you see on TV face for rad.
Speaker 3: You're tall and very and very very good looking.
Speaker 1: So I think for me, I used to rue the
Speaker 1: day that the patients would come to ARM with Google
Speaker 1: Search knowledge, right.
Speaker 2: I hated that.
Speaker 1: I actually wish they would look at chat chept and
Speaker 1: ask Chatchept some preliminary question because I think Chat CVT
Speaker 1: or any of the other language learning models and thrawpicked,
Speaker 1: Gemini and Blabba Perplection whatever not.
Speaker 2: Grock, Croc sarcastic.
Speaker 1: I love gro but it is actually very good at
Speaker 1: giving you sort of a general informational you know, sort
Speaker 1: of syllabus primer before you come in. I think they
Speaker 1: I wish they knew a little bit of what Rock
Speaker 1: or one of the other lmms is going to tell you.
Speaker 2: What do you what would you say?
Speaker 1: I don't know that I haven't How about you get
Speaker 1: what you pay for if the plastic surgeon's too inexpensive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, I guess, I guess along those lines,
Speaker 3: I would wish that they would understand that when you're purchasing,
Speaker 3: you know, whatever it is, let's say, a breast augmentation,
Speaker 3: are facelift or whatever. It's not like you're buying a buick.
Speaker 3: There's no such thing as a breast augmentation. It is
Speaker 3: a rough categorization of techniques that will be done differently
Speaker 3: by any surgeon that you see. And so it it's
Speaker 3: not like going and buying a Toyota at one dealership
Speaker 3: or the same cart another dealership. There's no way you're
Speaker 3: getting the same thing. And so you need to form
Speaker 3: that connection with the surgeon and the consultation you make.
Speaker 3: You need to make sure they understand you very clearly
Speaker 3: and have a clear target of what it is that
Speaker 3: you want, and that you get a sense in your
Speaker 3: gut that okay, we've got to figure because if you don't,
Speaker 3: don't do it right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a baby a year ago. My body
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like mine anymore. What is a mommy
Speaker 1: make over? And is it worth it?
Speaker 2: What do you I mean?
Speaker 1: Let's say mommy makeover is typically something with the breast,
Speaker 1: something with the tummy. It's usually either breast dougmentation plus
Speaker 1: or minus lyft or at least a lyft and a
Speaker 1: tummy tuck right usually suction and or a LiPo section,
Speaker 1: which is often part and parcel of a dominoplasty.
Speaker 2: A tummy tuck operation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that is one of the most worth
Speaker 1: it procedures, depending on where you are in your stage
Speaker 1: of life and depending what weight you're at. Okay, because
Speaker 1: if you still really haven't lost a lot of the
Speaker 1: baby weight, even though you may really want a mommy makeover,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe go on a GLP one and get
Speaker 1: get your weight down because you'll get much better results
Speaker 1: closer to you, more idealized BMI, but above you know.
Speaker 1: But I think mommy makeovers, generally speaking, are extraordinarily. We
Speaker 1: were going to do a segment on the podcast that
Speaker 1: we did previously about operations that are almost always worth it.
Speaker 1: I think this is one that's almost always worth it.
Speaker 2: Do you agree?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And I think this warrant's talking about in more
Speaker 3: detail in the future because I think what women go
Speaker 3: through following pregnancy, there is no equivalent from them where
Speaker 3: you start off and you have your girlish body, your
Speaker 3: youthful body, and in the span of like a year,
Speaker 3: it's completely transformed. Yeah, you know, we you know, we
Speaker 3: lose our hair over decades. It's for a man, it's
Speaker 3: like waking up one you know, going to bed with
Speaker 3: the full head of hair and waking up bald in
Speaker 3: the morning.
Speaker 2: It's shocking.
Speaker 1: What is the one thing people spend money on that
Speaker 1: you think is completely worth it and sort of in
Speaker 1: the same vein, and one thing that's totally overhyped? Oh
Speaker 1: with this is a whole another two hour podcast, But
Speaker 1: what what I think?
Speaker 2: Again?
Speaker 1: I think the Mommy makeover is completely worth it if
Speaker 1: you're doing at the right stage of your life and
Speaker 1: you're healthy, and you're at your pretty close to your
Speaker 1: ideal body. Way, would you agree the Bomby makeover is brilliant?
Speaker 3: Right? I think the Mommy Makeover totally delivers. I think modestly,
Speaker 3: I think, you know, on a much simpler level, breast
Speaker 3: implants totally deliver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 3: I think they totally deliver. Right.
Speaker 1: In the future, we have talked about the new kind
Speaker 1: of breast implants and what you think about them, those
Speaker 1: motivas because at lower rate of caps or contractor. But anyway,
Speaker 1: and the one thing that's totally overhyped, boy, you could
Speaker 1: you could separate that into surgical and non surgical categories.
Speaker 2: But the nons. It's funny.
Speaker 1: Even though the future UH of plastic surgery will be
Speaker 1: non surgical energy delivery devices to tighten the skin, it's
Speaker 1: kind of shameful. Knock, it's still not it's I think
Speaker 1: that's the most overhyped come in I have. I just
Speaker 1: bought spent this one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars
Speaker 1: on this device, and I need to get my return
Speaker 1: on investment, and it causes so much tightening without a scalpel.
Speaker 2: Its over hype. Would you agree with.
Speaker 3: That the laser Chotski djure is the most over hype thing.
Speaker 3: It's like going back to we need to talk about
Speaker 3: this sometimes. The first laser thing we went to together
Speaker 3: in like the ninety end light see end light, save
Speaker 3: that the stone light makes new collagen in your skin,
Speaker 3: as has every bullshit device since then. If an aggregate
Speaker 3: of one pound of collagen has been made worldwide, I'd.
Speaker 2: Be amazed by the way it was. The world's most
Speaker 2: expensive flashlight. If that it absolute?
Speaker 1: In fact, you want to hear something pathetic, that's true.
Speaker 1: The only thing I ever saw it do plus or
Speaker 1: minus is caused some mild hyper pigmentation. It never caused
Speaker 1: any significant tightening.
Speaker 3: I think it did have one benefit. I think it
Speaker 3: really started to hone your acting skills. Walking in, they're going,
Speaker 3: oh my god, look at you.
Speaker 2: This is the greatest thing ever. Right, Okay?
Speaker 1: And then finally, is there anything you simply won't do
Speaker 1: a procedure you turn patients away for you know what
Speaker 1: it is for me, right, I will not do a
Speaker 1: Brazilian butt lift. I just don't think something that has
Speaker 1: a risk of fatality to it for me. Okay that
Speaker 1: even if, even if we've learned how to do it
Speaker 1: much more favorably with a much lower risk of fatality,
Speaker 1: it's just too bloody scary, you know, as a medical
Speaker 1: legal guy who does a lot of this in a career,
Speaker 1: to certified expert a California medical cort, I'm still seeing
Speaker 1: and you're still seeing in the media, you know, fatalities
Speaker 1: from the Brazilian butt lift.
Speaker 2: I won't touch it. I just won't. What about you?
Speaker 3: There are a number of things that I won't do,
Speaker 3: and one of them has nothing to do with the
Speaker 3: procedure itself. I don't do rhinoplastic, Okay. Reason I don't
Speaker 3: do rhinoplast I think rhinoplasty is I don't think there's
Speaker 3: anything wrong with the procedure. I don't do them because
Speaker 3: I think, even in the best hands, it's an operation
Speaker 3: that has too much unpredictability in the healing, at least
Speaker 3: for me. Yeah, I want to do things where I know,
Speaker 3: if I'm aiming for this, I might go to this,
Speaker 3: or I might go to this. But the problem with
Speaker 3: rhinoplasty is very often what you're trying to do is
Speaker 3: change things by millimeters because you're dealing with the way
Speaker 3: the body heals, an unpredictable skin tightening and unpredictable amounts
Speaker 3: of scarr and all these things. Small changes, small variabilities
Speaker 3: in the result are the difference, especially on the nose,
Speaker 3: between a great result and one that never quite looks right.
Speaker 3: And even in guys I know, look, I trained, you
Speaker 3: know some of the best rhino blastis in the world, Okay,
Speaker 3: and at ut Southwestern, even in their hands, there's a
Speaker 3: an unacceptable degree of unpredictability for my taste. I don't
Speaker 3: I just don't want to do procedures like right.
Speaker 1: Two millimeters of difference in nipple height. You can't see it, okay,
Speaker 1: you can't even really measure matter, but two millimeters. We
Speaker 1: used to have this expression, right, because we love these
Speaker 1: sort of coined expressions in plast Thirty millimeters are miles
Speaker 1: when it comes to rhino plastic surgery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And you can't control, and you don't have control,
Speaker 3: You don't have fine control at the level you need
Speaker 3: fine control to hit that operation out of the park
Speaker 3: every time. And if that's going to be the case,
Speaker 3: I just don't want to do it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yet another fascinating episode of Bonus episode with doctor
Speaker 1: Robert Schwartz, Boob, God of Dallas, genius and my best friend.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, thank you. Good