1 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Mention it all the reality reckoning. So there have been 2 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: many headlines and stories about this reality reckoning that I started, 3 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: and people are wondering, why is she doing that? Is 4 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: she biting the hand that feeds her? She had this platform. 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Isn't this what everybody signs up for? What is she doing? 6 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: So I'm going to explain to you the full and 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: real story about what I'm doing and why and how 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: it evolved and how we got here today. So mention 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: it all the reality reckoning. So I have heard about 10 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: the writers strike, the actor strike, and I just off 11 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: the cough posted a video saying why aren't reality stars 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: on strike and that we should have a union because 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: I know that my content is all over the world 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: that I did fifteen years ago, before I ever knew 15 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: that there would be a peak cockstreamer or any streamers 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: or gifts or memes or anything YouTube clips, social media. 17 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: I go to Australia and I'll see my entire body 18 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: on the back of buses promoting shows for Hey You Australia, 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: which I never even knew existed because it didn't exist. 20 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: So we signed our lives away, not realizing where it 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: would be distributed for decades to come and people say, well, 22 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: this is what you sign up for, and it is 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: what we signed up for then, but we did not 24 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: know what the world would become, and we did not 25 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: know that there would be streamers. And this is effectively 26 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: what actors are fighting for. And people say, oh, well, 27 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: you guys don't have talent and you're not actors, and 28 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: that's what people are really paying for. And with the 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: writers and actors strike, now reality stars are being relied upon, 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: just like the last strike, to provide all of the content. 31 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: So now it's going to be a gold rush for 32 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: reality talent and they're being exploited without compensation. Now many 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: people sign up for it and are happy to be 34 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: treated poorly because they just want the fame. But does 35 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: that make it right? And many people I've come to 36 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: learn have horrific stories that are yes, also abusive and illegal, 37 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: but they're scared because they've ruined their lives and reputations 38 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: through this medium and the only way to go back 39 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: and make a living is through this toxic medium. So 40 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: it's like chasing the dragon, and this medium gets them 41 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: back in to constantly try to clear their name. So 42 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: people say that I'm biting the hand that feeds me 43 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: by bringing this up, when in fact I fed myself. 44 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: Andy Cohen didn't want me on the Housewives, and most 45 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: housewives and reality talent gets discarded by the side of 46 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: the road and is not successful like I am. I 47 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: was always an entrepreneur. I was always someone who could 48 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: figure out a way to make a living. And since 49 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: being on reality television, I've done hundreds of millions of 50 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: dollars in relief work. Without reality televison, I've done an 51 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: amazing job at making a lot more money and being 52 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: more successful since reality television. And yes, it did give 53 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: me a platform, but it gave many people a platform, 54 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: and no one has had the same experience as I 55 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: am have, so I created my own success. Yes, they 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: gave me a platform. Yes I am grateful that I 57 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: got that platform, but I also fed them because they 58 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 1: were able to get a different caliber of talent who 59 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: all wanted to be successful entrepreneurs since me, I created 60 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: the model for using it as a vehicle to promote 61 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: a product, and my product was made fun of in 62 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: the beginning because of an ugly logo and because of 63 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: arguments with other people. It can go both ways. I 64 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: fought through and I made it successful, but it's definitely 65 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: a double edged sword, so let's put that to the side. 66 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm just answering the fact that biting the hand that 67 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: feeds me. When I made a post saying why don't 68 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: we have a union, it exploded and everyone agreed with me. 69 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about anything legal. I didn't know anyone 70 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: would come out of the woodwork. I was speaking for 71 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: myself and saying my content has been exploited. And it 72 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: made me then think of all the other people who 73 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: I had heard about who or I've seen whose lives 74 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: were ruined. People who are on The Bachelor who said 75 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: something inappropriate that ruins their life and they got paid 76 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: nothing and they can never get a job again. Or 77 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: people on The Housewives that are called horrendous names, or 78 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: whose kids get bullied, or whose businesses get shut down, 79 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: or who get fired. Those people were exploited and the 80 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: episodes still air and they get no compensation. I first 81 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: thought of my personal experience, because that's what I have, 82 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: But then I started thinking about all the other people. 83 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: So all I did was say something, And once I 84 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: said something, all these people came out of the woodwork, 85 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: and people who are interviewers were saying to me, do 86 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: you know how the Supernanny was exploited or Caitlin Bristow 87 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: was exploited or all these different people. I hadn't even 88 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: thought of it. Then my messages were blowing up and 89 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: all these people were coming out, and I thought, oh 90 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: my god, Wow, people really have been exploited in ways 91 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: I didn't even think of. There are examples that I 92 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: knew of where there was a big cover up by 93 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: the network on this boat incident that we were on, 94 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: where it was very dangerous and there were only two 95 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: life vests and it was definitely a liability, and the 96 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: production company and the network had meetings and investigations trying 97 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: to cover their own ass. Okay, no one died like 98 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: that was fine. We didn't press charges and nobody would 99 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: press charges because they all were still part of the machine, 100 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: still working as part of the machine. And that happened 101 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: in the Harvey Weinstein scandal. People were still working in 102 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: the machine and didn't open up their mouths until it 103 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: became so big that they could not open their mouths. 104 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,119 Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow was the first person to give it really 105 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: credibility from a macro perspective from a very successful, respected 106 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: actress that really took it to the next level. So 107 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: people who are making money off of the machine won't 108 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: speak out again. It happens. It happened in people making 109 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: money off of opioids, It's happened in many different industries. 110 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: It's not like the minute I say something, people are 111 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: going to give up their fame or their show that's 112 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: paying them, even if it's not the right pay, or 113 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: even if they're not being treated right. So now I 114 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: said something, and people who had been discarded and whose 115 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: lives had been ruined started reaching out to me. So 116 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: I thought, oh, but even before that, I went online 117 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: and said, these are ten terms that I think would 118 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: be fair. This is before it became illegal practices that 119 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: I was being made aware of. I was just saying, 120 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: these are terms based on compensation for exploitation. It wasn't 121 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: about illegal practices, it wasn't about abuse. It was just 122 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: about that this group of people risk their jobs, their reputations, 123 00:06:48,960 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: and here are terms. So of course no one's going 124 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: to respond to my terms. Of course, Bravo or a 125 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: network isn't going to reach out to me and say, hey, well, 126 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: respond to your terms. They don't need to. And I 127 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: saw them get noticeably more silent. And I saw Andy 128 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: Cohen and watch What Happens Live be a little more 129 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: sensitive and a little more watered down and sanitized. And 130 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: I watched people get nervous. But to what end? I 131 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: reached out to one lawyer because I wanted someone to 132 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: sort of write up in a formalized way what I 133 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: had voiced in these ten terms that I did on 134 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: TikTok and Instagram. I wanted there to be a reason 135 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: that a network would respond. So in other words, people 136 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: won't usually respond unless they get a legal letter than 137 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: they're required to respond. So I wanted a lawyer to 138 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: memorialize a jumping off point with these terms that I 139 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: set on social media to send to networks, so that 140 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: they would possibly respond like to send to like a 141 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: Bravo and they would respond to my terms as a 142 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: jumping off point and say, this is a good idea. 143 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: We do agree with you. People are being utilized and 144 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: exploited and we're using their content and we've never given 145 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: them a dime of the merchandise, and we've said that 146 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: the Bethany clause means we take a piece of their 147 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: business to the end of time, and I just wanted 148 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: something in writing. But what happened was when this lawyer 149 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: got involved and I had all of these people who 150 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: had started reaching out to me about different forms of 151 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: abuse and workplace violations, it opened Pandora's box. The lawyer 152 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: couldn't believe the influx of complaints and abuse, so then 153 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: they the lawyer, Brian Friedman, brought on another lawyer, Garrigos, 154 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: Mark Garrigos, who has represented many people in different class 155 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: action lawsuits. So Brian Friedman has represented many people wronged 156 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: in entertainment lawsuits, like whether it's Gabrielle Union or they 157 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: rep and Megan Kelly, and Mark Arragos has represented other people. 158 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: And many of you will have a problem with some 159 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: of the people that they've represented. You may hate it, 160 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: but they are lawyers and they represent that's their job. 161 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: They represent different types of cases. It doesn't mean that 162 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: they're not good lawyers. It doesn't mean that they're bad people. 163 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: You are just saying that you don't like some of 164 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: the people that they've represented, which is fair, But that 165 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the fact that the two 166 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: of these powerhouse lawyers got involved because there were valid 167 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: cases here. So now it became something bigger. So they 168 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: announced a big statement and they put Bravo on notice, 169 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: an NBC, which is one hundred and eighty million dollar company, 170 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: they put them on notice saying, hold all this footage, 171 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: hold all this documentation, because these are things that we 172 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: as lawyers have found. This is not my lawsuit. This 173 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: is not Bethany suing anyone. This is not Bethany saying 174 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: that anything happened to her. So this was just opening 175 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: Pandora's box. The person who recommended me and referred me 176 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: to these lawyers, to Brian Friedman, are want the most 177 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: powerful people in Hollywood, because Hollywood noticed, and even the 178 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: entertainment industry and agencies, those people that represent many of 179 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: these reality people, many of the production companies, many of 180 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: the people. They recommended me to these lawyers because they 181 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: agreed with me that there should be a union and 182 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: that the exploitation is that this business is fraught with exploitation. 183 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: So think about that. The very people that make a 184 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: percentage off of the production companies and the talent in 185 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: this multi now billion dollar sphere of reality television recommended 186 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: me to these lawyers because they know that there needs 187 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: to be an end to this exploitation, that the line 188 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: has been crossed. So they also agreed that there should 189 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: be some sort of a union. So on a parallel 190 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: path from all of these lawsuits and Bravo being put 191 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: on notice, we get the SAG after a union reaches 192 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: out to me and agrees that there's been exploitation and 193 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: agrees that NBC and Bravo have been exploiting talent and 194 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: that they want to work towards fair practices for this talent. 195 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: Many of this talent that wants to stay there right 196 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: now because they want to make the money. They need 197 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: the income, and they don't want to bite the hand 198 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: that is currently feeding them. So those people who won't 199 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: speak up, as much as it would be courageous for 200 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: them to speak up, I understand why they won't publicly 201 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: speak up because they want to make money. So when people, 202 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: when other members of the Housewives franchise come out in 203 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: defense saying I'm biting the hand feed that fed me 204 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: and why would I do this A they're being pushed 205 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: forward by Bravo PR because the Bravo PR machine is 206 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: on full tilt now because there's a massive, massive literary 207 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: piece coming out in a credible publication in a few months. 208 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: This is a credible publication and there are major, major 209 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: pieces coming out. So the Bravo pr machine is at work, 210 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: and they want to get some of their successful workhorses 211 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: that are currently employed by them to say things like 212 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: Bethany's biting the hand that fed her. That's ridiculous. Yes, 213 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: this medium was good to me. Yes, this vehicle paid me. 214 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: I did not know about a lot of these violations. 215 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: And I did not know about this stuff because I'm 216 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: a smart person that would have never tolerated this. And 217 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: I had a lot of power because I brought in ratings, 218 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: because when I left Bravo, the ratings dropped them. When 219 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: I came back, they went back to where they were, 220 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: to the tune of about a million and a half years. 221 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: So Bravo is not going to mess around with me, 222 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: nor is a production company. But there are weaker talent 223 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: that have been discarded, and the way that they go 224 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: back every year is because in their personal lives, their 225 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: real lives, their reputation has been destroyed. They have nowhere 226 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: else to go. And the way that Bravo gets talent 227 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: to come back every year, and the production companies get 228 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: talent to come back every year after they've been abused 229 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: and discarded is by saying to them, you get to 230 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: change the narrative. You get to come back this time 231 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: and you get to set the record straight. So they 232 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: beat you down and then they they're saying, you get 233 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: to build yourself back up. Because the name of the 234 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: game of this forum of reality television is I've always 235 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: said it's a zero sum game. Someone is always winning 236 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: and someone is always losing. So if you're winning, you're 237 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: on top of the world making all this money. So 238 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: there's a recent pr thing saying that I pitched a 239 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: show to Bravo a few months ago, and all of 240 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: a sudden, now I'm realizing the grotesque and horrible treatment, 241 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: the brutal treatment. The facts are because page six posts 242 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: something that they just heard and just throw it up. 243 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter tomorrow they can post something different. The 244 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: facts are, and I have all the receipts and my 245 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: lawyers have all the receipts that over. About two years ago, 246 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: I was in Nantucket and I pitched a project to 247 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: a production company called Pop. A man named Matt Anderson 248 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: he worked on He produced Miami Real Housewives, Atlanta and 249 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: married to medicine, and I pitched him on Bethany. The 250 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: next chapter, me being in Connecticut and the people around me. 251 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: I had spoken to Andy Cohen and pitched it to him. 252 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: He loved it. We did a beach walk. He loved it. 253 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: And Bravo was interested in and Bravo basically said to 254 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: Matt at pop, go flush us out, go develop it. 255 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: So they started sending me women to be around me, 256 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: and only one hundred times did I say to them, 257 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: I don't want this to be a housewives. I don't 258 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: like that culture. This has to be anything but housewives. 259 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: I don't want this to be housewives. They kept saying 260 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: to me, it will not be housewives, but lo and 261 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: behold they were casting all these different women. We kept 262 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: flushing it out. I was producing it. It was my concept. 263 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: It also involved this podcast narrating it. And it was 264 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: this whole concept that started between eighteen months and two 265 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: years ago. I have every receipt from my lawyers. We 266 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: were about to be at the signing point, like in 267 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: April and May, and I had been punting it so 268 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: much so that the production company kept saying that I 269 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: had been punting it, and my lawyers didn't like the 270 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: production company's practices because they had been casting people and 271 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: developing the show, and they they wouldn't give us the 272 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: materials that they had been casting. And it was my 273 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: concept that I pitched them about a group of people 274 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: in Connecticut who was I surrounding myself with in my 275 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: next chapter in Connecticut. But the types of women they 276 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: were casting made me worry that it was getting a 277 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: little housewivesy, and they've produced a lot of housewives and 278 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: I started getting cagy and didn't want to do it. 279 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: Someone reached out to me from the Bravo sphere and 280 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: said to me that the production company Pop and Matt Anderson, 281 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: my partners, had produced Married to Medicine, and that they 282 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: had allegedly stolen the show Married to Medicine from a 283 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: cast member. I don't know who the cast member is. 284 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: I don't know the story, but they had been stealing. 285 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: They had stolen the show allegedly, and things that had 286 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: been going on in the interaction and in the deal 287 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: negotiating between myself and this production company were making me 288 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: feel worried that they were going to try to do 289 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: this Connecticut ensemble show without me, which was a concept 290 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: that I pitched Andy that I pitched them, and they 291 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: were to try to get cute and figure out another 292 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: way to do it and call it something different, but 293 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: still do it in Connecticut because they had spent time 294 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: and money flushing it out, and I didn't like the 295 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: way it felt, and it really was like bullseye. I 296 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: felt like they were going to steal the show. And 297 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: this other person said to me, while they stole Married 298 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: to Medicine. And then I found out that it resulted 299 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: in a massive lawsuit and a settlement. So I called 300 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: my lawyer at Grubman and said, I don't want to 301 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: do it, pull the plug on the show. I just 302 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: don't want to do it. So that was in like 303 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: April May. So today page six was trying to paint 304 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: a picture where like just months ago, I was pitching 305 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: a show about Connecticut and all of a sudden, now 306 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: I think the practices are grotesque. I was pitching a 307 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: show eighteen months two years ago, and now it was 308 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: getting to contract stage and this production company was really 309 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: selling it to Bravo, and I pulled the plug at 310 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: the last minute. And I believe they're probably still trying 311 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: to do it. And this is the production company that 312 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: was in a conflict about stealing a show. So that's 313 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: what that latest page six is about. And that's why 314 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: it's great to have your own voice, your own platform, 315 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: your own podcast, because I get to flush this all out. 316 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: Now you're seeing Bravo scramble and water things down and 317 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: wash things down by different articles. Like I said of House, 318 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: I've saying I'm biting the hand that feeds me, and 319 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: people pitching this story about I was pitching Bravo and 320 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: isn't that convenient? But what's really going on is they 321 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: are very nervous. There are sub lawsuits going on as well. 322 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: The Morocco Ultimate Girls Trip is also currently a big 323 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: source of conflict for Bravo. Brandy Glanville and Carolyn both 324 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: have two sides to the story about an alleged sexual assault. 325 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: Brandy has information about herself being told to act a 326 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: certain way. Caroline also has taken up legal representation. There 327 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: are two sides to that story, and Bravo has coincidentally 328 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: just completely shelved that project. In addition, Watch What Happens 329 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: Live has become very watered down. It seems like Bravo 330 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: is on full alert and they have been extremely responsive 331 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: and nervous about this pending lawsuit from many people in 332 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: the Bravo sphere via these lawyers that I brought in 333 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: about a union at about residuals. So Pandora's box has 334 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: been opened as far as the union goes. I have 335 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: a very important meeting this week with the union and 336 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: that should move forward to hopefully protect these people. So 337 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot swirling. I just wanted to say to 338 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: you directly. Oh. In addition, people have been speculating why 339 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: am I doing this? Am I starting my own network? 340 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: Am I representing talent? The answer is no. I literally, 341 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: off the cuff, made a comment about the fact that 342 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: reality stars should be part of a union because of 343 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: exploitation without compensation. That evolved into terms that I thought 344 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: would be fair, which evolved into a big Hollywood, big 345 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: way giving me the name of a lawyer to try 346 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: to get a response on those terms, which evolved into 347 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: probably over one hundred reality stars reaching out to me 348 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: about them being violated, abused, and exploited without compensation, ruining 349 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: their lives. It evolved into a lawsuit from many of 350 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: the Bravo talent exposing practices that I did not realize. 351 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: Bravo was complicit in. And I would like you to 352 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: know that I've known Andy Cohen for years and we 353 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: always have been colleagues. Now, I was one of his 354 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: favorites as a housewife, and he always enjoyed me, and 355 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: I always enjoyed him. But we weren't quote unquot good friends. 356 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: And I mean that to say that I met his 357 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: son once or twice. Every time he's come over my 358 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: house where I've come over his, we've been talking about 359 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: the industry and the business and housewives, and we've both 360 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: always had an agenda in the relationship with one another. 361 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: I have never really clearly been able to view him 362 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: and his business practices without him being in some sort 363 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: of employer adjacent role, meaning he's not my direct employer. 364 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: But there have been projects that I've pitched him. There 365 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: have been negotiations that I've done with him about being 366 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: on the Housewives, about coming back to the Housewives, about 367 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: different projects that he's pitched me, and that I've pitched 368 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: him about what I come back for Ultimate Girls trip. 369 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: I always had a foot in that door. So my 370 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: relationship with Andy was connected to business at all times. 371 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: From the minute I met him. It was always connected 372 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: to business, but it was some of the I knew 373 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: through business who I was also friendly with when I 374 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: left the Housewives, and I had the highest rated series 375 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: premiere in Bravo history for my spinoff. I was invited 376 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: to his Christmas party, but only one time in one year, 377 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: and I've never been invited back. So when you say 378 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: everyone thought we were really good friends, we were friendly, 379 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: but we were show business friends. We were colleagues, and 380 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: we both always had an agenda. And there's been a dance. 381 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: And when I came out with Rewives, it's the first 382 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: time that I saw him publicly speak out against it, 383 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: which was ludicrous because Rewives is about is a podcast 384 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: about a machine that I helped to create, and I 385 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: don't exploit that. I'm not exploiting those people. Some people 386 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: have said, oh, why would I keep my rewives podcast 387 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: when I'm in the middle of this big reality reckoning. 388 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm not telling people to watch the episodes. I'm not 389 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: trashing anyone, I'm not exploiting anyone. I'm simply using a 390 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,239 Speaker 1: show as a vehicle to talk about human issues with 391 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: non Bravo talent. So that's asked an answered. Everyone's trying 392 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: to come for me with some sort of agenda based thing, 393 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: and I'm right here, you can ask me any questions. 394 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: So Andy publicly denounced Rewives, and then it backfired on 395 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: him because it was in every publication for weeks and 396 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: my podcast Rewives went into the top five and has 397 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: been an outrageous success to the tune of millions of downloads. 398 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: So that backfired so much so that they asked me 399 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: to come on watch What Happens Live. When Watch What 400 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: Happens Live hadn't wanted me to be on, but the 401 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: fans were asking so much about it that they had 402 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: me go on. I thought we were going on in 403 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: a normal, friendly capacity, so I went on there and 404 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: the public spoke there was an ambush. My daughter was 405 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: with me. She was really sad, to be honest, it 406 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: really hurt her. She thought we were going on to 407 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: be on a show, and she was like, why were 408 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: they so mean to you? And truthfully, I believe that 409 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: I kept the peace there and I went onto that 410 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: show and allowed myself to be ambushed because the door 411 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: was still a little bit always open. Would I ever 412 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: go back? And why burn a bridge and shut a 413 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: door even though you know you're not going back? Why 414 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: scorch that kingdom if you know you might go back. 415 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: What if everything goes to shitt and you just want 416 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: the paycheck for going on one of those trips or 417 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: something that you've been invited on. And now I'm at 418 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: a point where like, no, there's no number to put 419 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: me on one of those trips because I didn't realize a 420 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: lot of behind the scenes, I really have noticed that 421 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: it's evolved into being something disgusting and toxic that I 422 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: was fully part of. I admit that I was part 423 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: of it. I was part of the machine. I was 424 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: the golden child, the shining example of the machine. I'm 425 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: not hiding behind any of my ayes. I've said negative 426 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: things to people on the show, et cetera, And the 427 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: truth is I don't hold any of the people accountable 428 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: on the shows. That's what they were trained to do. 429 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: If you ever saw Game of Thrones, the Unsullied are 430 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: trained warriors. Whether it doesn't matter whether it's Erica Jane 431 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: or Lisa Rinna or Luanne de les Seppe or Kelly 432 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: Bensimone or Bethany Frankel or Ramona Singer, all of these 433 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: people have been seen doing horrible things on these shows 434 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: that they haven't been seen doing off those shows for 435 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: many of these cases, because they are trained for ratings. 436 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: What are the people on vander Pump Rules trained for ratings? 437 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: You do something bad, and you do something negative, you 438 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: are rewarded for that behavior. You fall off the wagon, 439 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: the cameras fly in, you get a divorce, yay, you 440 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: go bankrupt, wonderful, You're going to jail. Bring the cameras in. 441 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: The line has gotten blurred from when I started, and 442 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: diff diferent things were what was focused on. The more 443 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: that this medium, in this genre has celebrated things that 444 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: are terrible, the more they've made more and more money 445 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: for honoring and highlighting workplace violations, emotional abuse, sexual exploitation, 446 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: and we just keep digesting it because it's what keeps 447 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: being served to us, and no one has stopped it. 448 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: And I understand it's ratings. What happened on vander Pump's 449 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: Rules when they got up to like millions of viewers 450 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: for what for a cheating scandal on a show fueled 451 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: by alcohol with bartenders and band members, none of them 452 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: that are married, and an affair became the biggest thing, 453 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: and somebody won and somebody lost and the worse it gets, 454 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: the better it is for the pockets of Bravo. So 455 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: at some point the music will have to stop, you know, 456 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: because people and you will say, they signed up for this, 457 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 1: they signed up for this. Okay, these people signed up 458 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: for it. They signed up for what they didn't even know. 459 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: And every year they're rewarded for bad behavior, and every year, 460 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: the deeper they get into it, they can't work anywhere else. 461 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: They've ruined their reputation. Housewives are women in their fifties 462 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: and sixties who often do terrible things. They can't work 463 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: anywhere else, they've ruined their reputations. And yes they got 464 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: a second chance, and yes they weren't in the workforce, 465 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: and it's amazing that they were able to make money, 466 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: but it's not something that's widely respected. It's something that 467 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: is compensated. But like Porner, it's not widely respected. So 468 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: this world of salacious reality television has definitely pushed the envelope, 469 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: and myself included and many of you. Things will develop. 470 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: You're going to see things you did not know. You're 471 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: going to see things more clearly and start to think 472 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: about what you're consuming and how dirty you felt after 473 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: consuming it because the football keeps moving, and these shows 474 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: are not designed for conflict resolution. They're designed for conflict conflict, 475 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 1: and they're not designed to punish someone if they do 476 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: something wrong. So this has not been something that was 477 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 1: like a grand plan. I opened up Pandora's box and 478 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: now I can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. 479 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: And I'm on this path, and it's definitely slightly scary, 480 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: like in the back of my mind, because things like this, 481 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: you will during times like this, you will make enemies 482 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: and it won't be popular. And the sheep are definitely 483 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: not gonna like when someone breaks out, especially someone who 484 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: is so successful. But I have a beautiful daughter to 485 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: think about what she consumes in her future. I have 486 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,719 Speaker 1: a good relationship, I have a very successful business. I 487 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: have a thriving bank account, and I don't have to 488 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: put up with things that I don't think are right 489 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: for other people in society. And I get to be 490 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: cause driven and it doesn't matter if people hate me 491 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: or cancel me, because I'm okay. Nobody has anything that 492 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: I want. It's why I have my own YouTube series 493 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: content to the people. It's why I don't go back 494 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: to network television. I don't want someone else controlling my content. 495 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: My story, my life, and my YouTube series and my 496 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: podcast get more views and listens and more downloads than 497 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: network television now. So people have the freedom to use 498 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: their voice, and it takes courage. So I'm mentioning it 499 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: all and not letting all these little choppy publications decide 500 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: to tell you the story. That's the true story, that's 501 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: the mention it all story, and it is still developing 502 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: and you're going to see a lot of explosive things 503 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: coming out that are going to surprise you, and it's 504 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: going to be something different every day, every week. So 505 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to frame this entire story ahead of time 506 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: so you know it all from here and it will 507 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: evolve and it will change. Thank you for listening. Stay 508 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: tuned for more