1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: It's the show that she has the secrets of success 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: experience firsthand by Marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: will know he's given me advice on many occasions. And in 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know he'll 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry. 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Decision make because it's what he likes to do. 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It's 26 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: what he likes to share. 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: money Making Conversations. 29 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 5: Here we go. 30 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 4: Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald. 31 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 6: Welcome to the Money Making Conversation Masterclass show. The interviews 32 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 6: and information this show provides off for everyone. It's time 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 6: to start reading other people's success stories and start living 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 6: your own. My guess is the director of Candice Parker, 35 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 6: the intimate ESPN film Candice Parker, Unpologetic. Candas is one 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 6: of the biggest stars in basketball, a WNBA champion and 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 6: pioneer who not only fulfilled the way the expectations of 38 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 6: her being surrounded with this great potential as a young teenager, 39 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 6: but redefine what it means to be a woman's sports 40 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 6: star in the twenty first century. Please, he's welcome the 41 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 6: Money Making Conversation Masterclass. 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 4: The director Joey Jacobi. How you doing, Joey, We're doing 43 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: really well. 44 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 5: Thank you for having me. 45 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:08,399 Speaker 4: Well. 46 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 6: First of all, you know what I got excited. It 47 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 6: came across my desk. There was a Candas Parker docu 48 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 6: film that was out there, and I got a chance 49 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 6: to interview the director. Because there's a certain mindset, because 50 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 6: you look at things from a certain perspective. 51 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: And the first thing I wanted to know, like I 52 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: was looking at your. 53 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 6: Background, you know, body of work Inclues Return to Mexico, 54 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 6: To Mexico two thousand and nine, London twenty twelve. 55 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 4: Guess something else you're gonna put. 56 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 5: That actually film? 57 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 58 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 6: Absolutely, I know Games of the Opiad twenty twelve and 59 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 6: Sarah and Suzanne twenty fourteen. Now when I look at 60 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 6: that and then I look at the Candas Parker, how 61 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 6: did you feel there was something that you wanted to 62 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 6: navigate your strengths into that particular docu series. 63 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean yes, I think I've always been. I 64 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 7: started off in sports. I was working with ESPN straight 65 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 7: out of college and worked my way up to being 66 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 7: like a senior producer there, and I became known for 67 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 7: telling stories that were about when things are more when 68 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 7: when sport changes the world and enacts social change. So 69 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 7: one of the first pieces was Return to Mexico City, 70 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 7: in nineteen sixty eight, and you know that was the reason. 71 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 5: That was, you know, that was where where we went 72 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 5: with that. 73 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 7: But Candace is is within my wheelhouse in terms of sports. 74 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 5: But in the later years, I've been doing. 75 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 7: More biopics and really in depth studies of people, and 76 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 7: I connected with Candace, you know, as a fan. 77 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 5: First of all, I was a huge fan of her work. 78 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 7: And there are people that I would look around and 79 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 7: I'm like, you know, when they're talking about goats of 80 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 7: the w N, sometimes Candace's name isn't as high as 81 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 7: I think it deserves to be on those lists. She 82 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 7: is looked over beyond you know, they always are talking 83 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 7: about Sue and Diana Tarassi and you know, we start 84 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 7: to hear a lot of these names before Candace is 85 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 7: and I'm wondering why. And I really wanted to present 86 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 7: a very you know, objective, data driven film where you're seeing, 87 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 7: you know, her work speak for itself and learning about 88 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 7: her journey. And when you really dig deep into Candace, 89 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 7: what's interesting about her is that she is unique to 90 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 7: any of all of these athletes, all of these women athletes, 91 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 7: because she had a child very early in her career, 92 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 7: which she was literally a rookie and had all of 93 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 7: this expectation put on her and still has has has 94 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 7: been one. 95 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 5: Of the greatest. 96 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 7: Beyond that, it's you know when you you also learn 97 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 7: that she was playing nearly the three hundred and sixty 98 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 7: five days a year basketball professionally, and can you imagine 99 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 7: what that puts on the strain on a person's body, 100 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 7: going to Russia, China, Istanbul for the majority of her 101 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 7: year and really looking at the WMBA as a summer 102 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 7: job as like, you know, her side job, her side 103 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 7: hustle because it wasn't paying the bills. And that's the 104 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 7: story for so many other elite women athletes in this country. 105 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 5: They have to go abroad to make a living. 106 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 7: So I really wanted to just show what her life 107 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 7: really encompasses. And there's all of the challenges that this 108 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 7: woman has gone through and still you know been She's 109 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 7: the only w NBA star to ever win a championship 110 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 7: with three different franchises, So you know, it's her. 111 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 5: She's the winning sauce. She's the reason. 112 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 7: It's not you know, it doesn't matter where she goes, 113 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 7: she's going to win. And you know, she had a 114 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 7: lot of unlucky years in Lake in La. You know, 115 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 7: the management there was really messed up. So I feel 116 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 7: like I wanted to just put it put out you know. 117 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 7: I really just objectively looked at her story. Put it 118 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 7: out there, and you can and you did, and you did. 119 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 5: Joy. 120 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 4: I was speaking of Joey Jacobe. 121 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 6: She's the director of the new docu FHM, a biopic 122 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 6: of Candice Parker Unapologetic ESPN Films. The word that keeps 123 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 6: coming up over and over is underrated and underappreciating, you know. 124 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 4: And I never I'm gonna tell you. 125 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 6: I remember I saw it live when Candice Parker won 126 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 6: that slam dunk contest against Jails were there, I saw it, 127 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 6: you know. So that's how And I remember I met 128 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 6: her in the spring and I brought that up to her, 129 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 6: about the impact of that dunk. But I and so 130 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 6: and I realized that, you know, and she told me 131 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 6: her father said, You're more than that dunk, you know, 132 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 6: and not not base your career on that dunk. When 133 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 6: I spoke to her, and because I asked her that 134 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 6: question in front of the room full of she was 135 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 6: a panelist along with La Rams coach Sean McVay and so. 136 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 6: But the thing that comes across to me when I 137 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 6: look at the word undappreciated and underrated is that Candice 138 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 6: Parker is absolutely beautiful, And I'm wondering has that been 139 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 6: something that's been used against her? 140 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 4: Because she's so attractive? 141 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 6: If she wasn't to me, if she wasn't an athlete, 142 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 6: she could probably be a model. Could that have you know, 143 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 6: she's a cute girl. She doesn't work hard, things get 144 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 6: her way, you know, could that have hurt her in 145 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 6: her athletic world, that she's just attractive woman that really 146 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 6: doesn't put in the work and probably just gets handed things. 147 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 4: Your thoughts. 148 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 7: I think that there has been animosity towards her by 149 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 7: her peers because of the way she looks, because of 150 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 7: her appearance. Thoughts that she was getting endorsements or she's 151 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 7: getting marketing pushes because of her looks versus other athletes. 152 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: You know, she. 153 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 7: Also is a person who is very much committed to 154 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 7: her work and her family. So she's not out there 155 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 7: in the streets hanging with her teammates all the time, 156 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 7: like she's not that person. So she's a very private 157 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 7: person who spends a lot of time with her family 158 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 7: or doing or on the court and training and getting 159 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 7: her body and being ready for the game and now 160 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 7: broadcasting and the other things that she's doing. 161 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean she's about her business. 162 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 7: So I definitely think that between her appearance and the 163 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 7: perceptions that come with that, coupled with the fact that 164 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 7: she's really a focused competitor, probably made her peers have 165 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 7: a lot. 166 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 5: Of animosity towards her. 167 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 7: And we saw that in the twenty nineteen pool that 168 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 7: came out, which we talk about in the film, where 169 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 7: they said she was the most underrated. 170 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 6: You overrated word overrated came in, you know, like I said, 171 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 6: you know, we say unapologetic, but this could have been overrated. 172 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 4: It could have been underappreciated. It could have been underrated. 173 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 6: Because a lot of titles could have been tied to 174 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 6: her name. But you know the one that comes up. 175 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 6: I've appreciated her talent. I've appreciated what she's brought to 176 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 6: the table. I appreciate the skill set that I see 177 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 6: with her on T and T during the March Madness. 178 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 6: I mean, she's you know, these are just things I 179 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 6: see as a person who goes She's brilliant, she has 180 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 6: a sense of humor, and I can tell she does 181 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 6: her hard work hard the hard work that needs to 182 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 6: be put in place. Because she's a female person reporting 183 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 6: on male sports, that's when you got to have your 184 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 6: act together. But the commentary that she provides is I 185 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 6: always tell people like I represent Steven A. Smith, and 186 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 6: I always tell him when people I'm a sports junkie, 187 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 6: I said, when somebody tells me something that I go wow, 188 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 6: I never would have thought of that. That means that 189 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 6: a person has a special gift of talent, and she's 190 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 6: one of those people. Now along the way, you know, 191 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 6: you know, her brother got drafted in the NBA as 192 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 6: the first round pick, and so so athleticism drove that family. 193 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 6: And she was the youngest in the family, so she 194 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 6: basically was treated like one of the boys, which drove 195 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 6: her competitively. But if you look back when I first 196 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 6: see her, and there wasn't mentioned in this docuseries, I 197 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 6: just think of Cheryl Miller, you know who I you know, 198 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 6: she's tall like her, she's kin complexion like her, she's 199 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 6: attractive like her. And I didn't hear Cheryl Miller name 200 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 6: mentioned in the documentary. Was that intentional or that would 201 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 6: have strayed in a different direction for the documentary, if 202 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 6: we'd have brought Cheryl Miller toned into this documentary. 203 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 5: You know, I don't. 204 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 7: I feel like we were really trying to get there 205 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 7: were so only so many minutes, and I definitely know 206 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 7: that Cheryl Miller is somebody that Candice looks up to, 207 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 7: but there is I think really just keeping it to 208 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 7: time made things like that have to. 209 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 5: Go at times. 210 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 7: Like I remember, we had you know, more about Lisa 211 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 7: and her relationship. 212 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 5: You know, they were very close and she looked up to. 213 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 7: Her very much and you know as a mother in 214 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,359 Speaker 7: the NBA as well WNBA. So there were just unfortunately, 215 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 7: you know, some of those other stories. I wish we 216 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 7: could go further and more in depth on some of 217 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 7: the pioneers that she looks up to and that that 218 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 7: she really respects the game of because she's a she's 219 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 7: someone who studies and she she came up in you know, 220 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 7: nineteen ninety six, she's ten years old or something, and 221 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 7: you know that's when the WNBA was created, So that 222 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 7: was like she finally saw that basketball could become a career. 223 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 7: Like that's that moment for her. So she definitely, you know, 224 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 7: was a fan of Cheryl Miller. I also think, you 225 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 7: know when you say, you know, this is a masterclass 226 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 7: and you mentioned her parents, right, that was part of 227 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 7: probably for me, one of the best things about the 228 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 7: interviews and making this film was talking to her parents 229 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 7: and learning from her parents because these are these are 230 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 7: these are these are amazing parents who who got two 231 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 7: of their kids into professional sports. Another kid is a 232 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 7: doctor and went to the best university he went to, 233 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 7: you know, went to the top university in the country 234 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 7: for medical school. 235 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 5: These are really exceptional kids. How do you how do 236 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 5: your kids turn out like this? 237 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 7: You know, I wanted to know as a mom also 238 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 7: like what are the things that you do to drive 239 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 7: your child? And so it was also a master lesson 240 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 7: in learning from both Larry and Sarah Parker about how 241 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 7: you know, it's it's not about coddling your kids. It's 242 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 7: not about you know, treating them like they're like just 243 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 7: because they had a dunk that they're that they're you know, 244 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 7: so important. No, it's really about lifeline lessons and showing 245 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 7: them how things are hard and to keep working at 246 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 7: it until you become the best. 247 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 5: So that's that's where all that comes from. 248 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's really important that I asked these 249 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 6: questions because of the fact that first I'm curious and 250 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 6: I'm a basketball junkie and I'm a w NBA fan 251 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 6: or a fan of women's basketball, and then she had 252 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 6: her The father of their child, well, I think he 253 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 6: was the number fourth pick in the NBA draft, Williams. 254 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 6: He went to college great basketball players. She was a 255 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 6: great black so number one pick in the w NBA draft. 256 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 6: Their daughter does she ever? Does she ever considered sports? 257 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 6: What was the whole approach to her? What does she 258 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 6: what is her love? 259 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 8: You are now tuned into the money making conversations Minute 260 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 8: of Inspiration with Rashawn McDonald. 261 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 6: Nephew Tommy aka Thomas Miles. Career includes morning radio, television, 262 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 6: film prankphone Call, Soul Dot, comedy tours, and hosting owns 263 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 6: popular relationship show Ready to Love. But he tells me 264 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 6: about how not becoming a track star did not disappoint 265 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 6: his dad. 266 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 9: I did track all through high school, and I also 267 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 9: did drama all through high school, and I chose the 268 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 9: drama scholarship, and I actually thought that I disappointed him. 269 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 9: And I'm getting ready to go off to college and 270 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 9: that's when he's standing there saying you know, you got 271 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 9: my dream. I was like, what are you talking about? 272 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 9: He said, you got my dream. I said, no, I'm not. 273 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 9: I'm not running track, Pops. I'm gonna pursue the steer 274 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 9: the thing. He said, yeah, you got my dream. 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Moneymaking Conversations Masterclass continues online at Moneymakingconversations dot 293 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 8: com and follow money Making Conversations Masterclass on Facebook, Twitter, 294 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 8: and Instagram. 295 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 5: She's an athlete. Leyla's very tall. 296 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 7: She's about six foot now at this point and thirteen 297 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 7: years old. And yeah, I mean she plays so she 298 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 7: plays volleyball competitive fleet and she played soccer. 299 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 5: And she. 300 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 7: Has recent you know, she started to really come into basketball. 301 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 7: I think she was avoiding it at first because her 302 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 7: father is also from the NBA, Sheldon Williams, So you know, 303 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 7: it was there's a lot of pressure there. 304 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 5: But she actually really loves the sports. 305 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 7: So you do get to see Layla and Candace and 306 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 7: even an your Candace's wife on the court. 307 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 6: Now you know Joey. Now you know Joey. They wasn't 308 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 6: the same skill set. I saw the doc. Now you 309 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 6: know she she I'm glad you said she's thirteen because 310 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 6: she's tall. She looked like she's about sixteen seventeen, So 311 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 6: she has a number of years to develop those skills. 312 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 4: You know. 313 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 6: That's why I asked, you know, from the standpoint, did 314 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 6: she wanted to pursue but volleyball? 315 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 4: I could see her doing that easily. 316 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, but her father being an incredible athlete 317 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 6: and performed at a high level in a college. 318 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 4: That would be pressure because at number. 319 00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 6: Four picked in the draft, you know what I'm saying, 320 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 6: and then her mom being the number one pick in 321 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 6: the draft, because it just becomes a docuseries about family, 322 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 6: and that's what I thought that stood out the most. 323 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 6: Her family, her finding out how who she really was, 324 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 6: her destiny as being a person who wanted to come 325 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 6: out and say I'm gay. I wanted to pursue this lifestyle. 326 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 6: The facts being put out there. One in five women 327 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 6: in the WNBA are gay, and she felt that that 328 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 6: was important. 329 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 4: And she also mentioned the fact that. 330 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 6: Oftentimes in social media she's under attack whether and that's 331 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 6: that's not fair, but she still has to deal with that. 332 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 6: She has the courage to live with that. Explain to 333 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 6: us her role and plan that out. She mentions about it, 334 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 6: talks or talks about it in the film, but talk 335 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 6: about your perspective and building those moments to make sure 336 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 6: we got the message correctly. 337 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 5: About her coming out specifically. 338 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 7: Yes, ma'am, yeah, I mean I think that for Candace, 339 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 7: you know, you use those words at the beginning, all 340 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 7: these expectations, you know, all these things, and there was 341 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 7: an expectation for this beautiful woman who was married to 342 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 7: man to be a straight woman. And I think that 343 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 7: weighed on her, that that expectation, and you know, I 344 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 7: think that's why it took her so long to to 345 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 7: to publicly say that her and Anya were together. So really, 346 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 7: for her, it wasn't about, you know, this big to 347 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 7: do coming out thing. She didn't want that. She really 348 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 7: just wanted to be honest about who she you know, 349 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 7: about who she is, So she didn't she really didn't 350 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 7: make a huge deal of it. She put out an 351 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 7: Instagram post. I happened to be there that day picking 352 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 7: her up from the airport. It was her anniversary, and 353 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 7: it was her anniversary, and she was like, you know, 354 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 7: I'm tired of this. My wife is pregnant, and she's 355 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 7: she's it's it's becoming obvious that she's and you know, 356 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 7: people who know Candice and who are close to her, 357 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 7: you know, we're at the wedding and and would see 358 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 7: you know, their family together. And but it was really 359 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 7: about this public moment because she as she's bringing a 360 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 7: life into the world, she's having a son with her wife, rightfully, 361 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 7: so she felt she wanted to celebrate it. I think 362 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 7: really that's what was behind her finally, you know, doing 363 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 7: that Instagram post was just that she wanted to be 364 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 7: able to celebrate this momentous, beautiful moment. 365 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 4: I'm grateful to. 366 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 5: Have been there. 367 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 6: Well, you know, like when you do projects like this, 368 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 6: you know, fortunate to work on docuseries and when people 369 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 6: allow you to tell their personal story. That's this is 370 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 6: a very intimate story that you are breaking down to us. 371 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 6: You know, from the beginning, middle of the end, when 372 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 6: we look at all the injuries this she has ended, 373 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 6: is she afraid when she gets in the fifties and 374 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 6: sixties of how she. 375 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 4: Would be able to deal with those injuries? Joey, yes. 376 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 7: I mean, you know you've spoken to how many you've 377 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 7: talked to retired athletes. You know she has too, and 378 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 7: that is one of her greatest fears is that she's 379 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 7: not going to be able to be on the court 380 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 7: with her son. You know, she wants to be able 381 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 7: to play some play and pick up with him, like 382 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 7: she wants to be able to walk, and that we 383 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 7: know is a difficult difficulty for a lot of retired players, 384 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 7: and that's for the men's side. 385 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 5: You see she talks to a lot of the men. 386 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 7: But think about what women are going through when they've 387 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 7: been working. They played a lot more than the men. 388 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 7: They played all through college, they played basically year. 389 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,959 Speaker 5: Round for ten years of their career. 390 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 7: She's just started to It was just in the last 391 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 7: four years when she started doing Turner and doing broadcasting 392 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 7: that she's been able to step away from play saying 393 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 7: year year round. So she's very worried about that. But 394 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 7: the thing about Candace is she does a lot of 395 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 7: you know, a lot of work to. 396 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 5: Deal with that. 397 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 7: And so we see her with her trainers, We see 398 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 7: her in the cold baths, you know, we see her 399 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 7: doing the acupuncture. 400 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 5: She takes all of the precautions. 401 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 7: She's an amazing athlete that treats her body incredibly and 402 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 7: knows how to deal with her body, and she takes 403 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 7: care of herself. So that's how she's able to do this. 404 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 7: And so she's trying her best to do this in 405 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 7: a smart way. She's not going to push it to 406 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 7: the end. She's not gonna push it to the wheels 407 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 7: fall off. And she also won't play if her body 408 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 7: is not one hundred percent because she won't cheat the sport. 409 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 7: She cares too much about the sport of basketball to 410 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 7: ever play without being at her best. 411 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm having a sound issue here. I'm gonna just. 412 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 8: Is that you, Joey? 413 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 4: Is that you? I'm sorry? 414 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 5: Could you just give me one second? 415 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 4: Absolutely? Absolutely one second? 416 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 8: Did you know that? 417 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 4: Please? 418 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: Right now? 419 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 5: Sorry? My housekeeper was working, she. 420 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 4: Was doing her job job. You know that. 421 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 6: That allows me to transition to dramatic moments in the 422 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 6: Candice Parker Apologetic film. You know, the knee injury in 423 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 6: high school. That was a dramatic moment. The uh passing 424 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 6: of Pat Summit was played out in the documentary. 425 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 4: That was a dramatic moment. 426 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 6: Another dramatic moment that angered me what I felt and 427 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 6: I knew what was happening because I was in l 428 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 6: at the time. 429 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 4: The treatment of her by Derek Fisher. 430 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,239 Speaker 6: Her takeaway from that, I think she's still mad at 431 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 6: him because it was uncalled for and it made her 432 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 6: look bad. Because that's the things, like I said, she's 433 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 6: been fighting for her whole life. Give us some insight. 434 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 6: A lot of it's played out into the film. Is 435 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 6: fantastic moment of being able to cover emotions and back 436 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 6: it up with facts, tell us about how you was, 437 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:28,959 Speaker 6: how you pulled that together. 438 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know there. 439 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 7: Was there definitely still you know, a lot of motion 440 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 7: tied to that. Those years, those later years at the 441 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 7: at the Sparks were hard for her, really hard for her. 442 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 7: And and and then you know, when I interviewed some 443 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 7: of the journalists that were covering that period, like Jamel 444 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 7: Hill and also Ramota Sharborne, they also could have attested 445 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 7: to that and then and to the treatment sort of 446 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 7: that they were seeing from within the organization to someone 447 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 7: who was their star. And it was really a double 448 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 7: standard if you think about it, because would you ever 449 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 7: imagine them treating Lebron like that or you know, like 450 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 7: the person who is the star of your team that 451 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 7: you know, you're headliner and you you're devaluing them. 452 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 5: I mean there were other things too. 453 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 6: I mean there was time well look look James Harden, 454 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 6: he can get up and say I want to get traded. 455 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 6: He got he said, I want out of Houston, didn't 456 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 6: show up. I went out at Brooklyn, didn't show up. 457 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 6: I want out of Philly, didn't show up. Now you're 458 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 6: over there. 459 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: Messing up the Clippers tape. So you're absolutely right, there's 460 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 4: a double standard. 461 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 6: This man has proven he's done no championships because every 462 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 6: time he's mad or don't like. 463 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 4: Something, he's out. 464 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 6: Here's the person who's won three championship And at the 465 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 6: time I had won one championship and delivered. 466 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 5: To the multiple time. 467 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, And I was like, you know, 468 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 6: it was really interesting because of the fact that when 469 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 6: you are see people because you're helpless, because you at 470 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 6: the mercy of individuals, you have to nursey of perception. 471 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 6: You had the mercy steal. She still is attracted person 472 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 6: and people being stereo landing stereotypes on her about what 473 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 6: they think she are she is and she heard again 474 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 6: and all these things that she has to deal with 475 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 6: as a star talent she's been dealing with all her life. 476 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 6: But when I look at the documentary, the year that 477 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 6: stood out as probably her year that she just will 478 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 6: remember for the rest of her life is twenty sixteen. 479 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, twenty sixteen was not a very good year 480 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 4: for Kansas. Parker talk to us about that. 481 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it was a lot, it was, you know, 482 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 7: I think the biggest it started off really really bad 483 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 7: with the Olympics. 484 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 4: Right, she is a. 485 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 7: Two time gold medalist, and you know, she's asked to 486 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 7: go to a camp, asked to go away from her family, 487 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 7: work in this camp, prove herself. 488 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 5: She's being told that she's doing amazing. 489 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 7: She's killing it out there as one of the best 490 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 7: players in a field of great players. I mean, America 491 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 7: has the greatest women basketball players in the world. 492 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 5: That's it. 493 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 4: We do and. 494 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 7: They and but and Candases is one of the best, 495 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 7: right And so what you see there is this coach 496 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 7: who happens to be from the rival school college school 497 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 7: that she went. You know, went to Genoriyama from Connecticut 498 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 7: as the coach of the US Olympic team, but he 499 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 7: was also the coach of the of the Connecticut team 500 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 7: where Diana went, where Sue went. A lot of great athletes. 501 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 6: Three other and three other people who made their liberty. 502 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 6: It was five of them, totally correct. And Gina also 503 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 6: quote unquote was not a fan of Pat Summit. Let's 504 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 6: go and be real that Pat Summitt was his ribe 505 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 6: at the University of Tennessee. 506 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 4: So that moment right there, you know, the. 507 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 6: Other down moment was of course Pat Summit, Yeah, lost 508 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 6: her life in twenty sixteen. 509 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 4: You know, but she did. 510 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 6: The positive moment was she did win her second I 511 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 6: mean when she did win a WNBA championship in twenty sixteen. 512 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 7: And I think that was fueled by the fire, you 513 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 7: know that she had in her after losing Pat you know, 514 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 7: coming Like the thing about Candace is whenever there's you know, 515 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 7: things that are bad or think she's down, that actually 516 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 7: she uses it. 517 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 5: And I find this with a lot of great athletes. 518 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 7: She uses it and you know, very successful people in general, 519 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 7: is that she uses it to motivate herself and she 520 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 7: she channels that energy and that sadness, the grief. Her 521 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 7: marriage was also, you know, breaking up at that time. 522 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 5: She was separating in twenty six. 523 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 4: With Sheldon Williams. 524 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, with Sheldon, and so I mean it was a 525 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 7: lot for her that year and she had something to 526 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 7: prove and she you know, she brought home the championship 527 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 7: finally to the Lakers, I mean to the Sparks, the 528 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 7: La Sparks. 529 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 5: And yeah, it was it was a very dramatic year. 530 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 7: So I hope I really wanted to make sure that 531 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 7: that felt impactful for the audience. 532 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 4: Very impactful. 533 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 6: Joey a tremendous job, you know, I'm just I'm just 534 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 6: enjoying the moment. I watched the film on the day 535 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 6: of the day of the interview, so this is all 536 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 6: fresh in my mind. But like I said, in twenty sixteen, 537 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 6: she won for the la' Sparks and she got traded 538 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 6: to her hometown Chicago, where she won her second championship, 539 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 6: and this past year in twenty twenty three, unfortunately she 540 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 6: was hurt at the time, but she did win her 541 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 6: third championship with the Aces of Las Vegas, which is 542 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 6: one of my favorite teams. 543 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 4: By the way, leave me I'm a waa paint. 544 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 5: Yes, I love it. 545 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 6: Miss Wilson is a star and Miss Plum, I just 546 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 6: love them all. And Ms Gray, who was a teammate 547 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 6: with her. You with the Sparks again, you kind of 548 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 6: like it. It was a memory lane. I don't know 549 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 6: who's gonna interview you from these moment on interviews have 550 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 6: I like to believe they can never be as detailed 551 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 6: as much fun as I am. Joey, thank you for 552 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 6: coming on my show, Money Making Conversation Masterclass. 553 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 4: I will definitely promote this. 554 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 6: Candice Parker Apologetic esp film directed by Joey Jacob. 555 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 5: It's November twelve. 556 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 10: Thank you so much, thank you for joining us for 557 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 10: this edition of Money Making Conversations Masterclass. 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