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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold car Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt you've been fired as our DFS consultant.

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Speaker 3: Not over yet, give me one more day.

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Speaker 2: So our lineup this week right now we have ninety

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Speaker 2: four point seven four points. We need to get to

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Speaker 2: about one hundred and twenty to get to the money

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Speaker 2: line here. We do have Travis Kelcey going tonight, so

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Speaker 2: it is possible.

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Speaker 3: It is possible that'd be a rather large evening. It

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Speaker 3: would be a big one. But he's down four and

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Speaker 3: he's done a four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially big settings. So we had justin Fields in

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Speaker 2: the lineup as our quarterback, thirty four point five percent

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Speaker 2: ownership in the in the league that we're in here,

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Speaker 2: and fifteen point nine four points wasn't the worst day,

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Speaker 2: but wasn't the best. No, that wasn't Nausee Harris thirty

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Speaker 2: four point nine percent ownership, So a lot of people

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Speaker 2: were sure that he was undervalued. And he had seventy

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Speaker 2: seven total yards from scrimmage just two catches.

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Speaker 3: Though the receiving stuff's been great, the rushing stuff's been terrible.

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Speaker 2: I thought there would be more meat on the bone

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Speaker 2: and as a receiver there yeah, because it's working work

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Speaker 2: when they throw him the football. He's made big splash

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Speaker 2: plays the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Like he's going out on a lot more routes the

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Speaker 3: last two weeks. And part of that's because Warren and

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Speaker 3: Patterson have been banged up, of course, but he's a

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Speaker 3: good receiver.

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Speaker 2: It's the running game can't get going. Yeah. Derrick Henry

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Speaker 2: nineteen point six percent ownership, sixteen point six points. Wasn't

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Speaker 2: the biggest day as we thought. He did long read them,

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Speaker 2: but he had the long run at the end to

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Speaker 2: win it for them, but got tackled just short of

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Speaker 2: the end zone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't help for fantasy, but no.

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Speaker 2: Jaden Reid was okay. Fifty four point one percent ownership.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, our guys were popular.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen point seven fantasy points tomorrow or in the in

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Speaker 2: that game, four catches for seventy eight yards nineteen rushing yards.

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Speaker 3: He's a high quality play. Yeah, he just didn't.

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Speaker 2: Score Our Dantevium Wicks play thirty five point eight percent

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Speaker 2: ownership at just five thousand dollars. He had two catches

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Speaker 2: for twenty yards.

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Speaker 3: I'd go right back.

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Speaker 2: Seven targets in the game.

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Speaker 3: Yep, they had three clear drops too, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: he was getting open drops can be very fluky. I

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Speaker 3: doubt that that's gonna plague him. I would go right

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Speaker 3: back to that. Well, if it's the same price, give

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Speaker 3: or take.

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Speaker 2: The one that hurt us bad was Nico Collins. Hey,

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Speaker 2: it hurt sixteen point two percent ownership, so he wasn't

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Speaker 2: heavily owned.

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Speaker 3: He's expensive.

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Speaker 2: Two catches for seventy eight yards and a touchdown and

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Speaker 2: he pulls his hamstring in.

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Speaker 3: Like the first quarter, first quarter, right, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: He got fifteen point eight points for that one. I'm

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Speaker 2: not playing for that one.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying that one hurt us.

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Speaker 2: At least he scored.

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Speaker 3: I mean he could have pulled the hamstring before the touch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on the touchdown, right right. Eric All had two

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Speaker 2: catches for ten yards, but he was only twenty seven

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Speaker 2: hundred dollars ten percent ownership on him, So.

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Speaker 3: We went super cheap there, taking a shot in the dark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to allow us to go get Kelsey, which that's

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Speaker 2: us up for Tire and Nico. The Broncos defense was

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Speaker 2: the right call.

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Speaker 3: Oh, the Broncos d is good.

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Speaker 2: They had sixteen points, certain it one hundred yard receipt

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Speaker 2: or unfortunately forty eight point nine percent ownership.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: That's the problem with that many misses.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we.

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Speaker 2: Didn't have any huge hits. There's only one thing that

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Speaker 2: was on fire here and that was the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: Defense, saying but half the world has them. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, I also put together a lineup and it is domberanted.

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Speaker 3: We were in the Tucker or Tucker Craft. Yeah, didn't

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Speaker 3: didn't go with them, right, whoops, hit the wrong button? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: what did you do?

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Speaker 2: So I actually started Tucker Craft did and that one

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Speaker 2: worked out. I'm in the money right now as we

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Speaker 2: go into the into the Monday night game, I am done.

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Speaker 2: But I had Tucker Craft scoring twenty four points thirty

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Speaker 2: five point seven percent ownership. In this particular, strong Grave

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Speaker 2: was out. I also started Jordan Love at quarterback instead,

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Speaker 2: So you.

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Speaker 3: Hit the packer passing game, but in a different approach. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you were the you made the better choices.

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Speaker 2: I did start Jayden reading don Tavian Wicks unfortunately used

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Speaker 2: four Packers in your lineup. Yeah, I went heavy on

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Speaker 2: the Packers. I thought they would throw the ball effectively,

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Speaker 2: yeah kind of. Yeah. I also started Derrick Henry, but

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Speaker 2: I also I went to Trey Sermon at fifty seven

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Speaker 2: hundred dollars only eight point nine percent ownership, wow, which

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Speaker 2: I thought was really low. He had eighteen point three points.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Goodson played a fair amount, but that doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: Sermon gun stuff. He got the touchdown and he got

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Speaker 3: the six receptions. There were some bad defense in that

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I did go with DK Metcalf at seven thousand.

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Speaker 2: He only got eight point five points. I think he

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Speaker 2: blew up right that one to me, Like the Steelers

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Speaker 2: loss to the Cowboys at home. Dallas is supposed to

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Speaker 2: be a good football team this year. Yeah, Seattle lost

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Speaker 3: Weird game too badly, Yeah, badly. There was two they

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Speaker 3: trailed the whole way. They were losing them. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they probably couldn't protect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a bad one. As I mentioned, I started

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Speaker 2: Tucker Craft in the flex spot. I started Antonio Gibson

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Speaker 2: two point four percent ownership.

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Speaker 3: He started, but he didn't really it was.

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Speaker 2: Only fifty one hundred dollars. He ended up with fifty

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Speaker 2: two rushing yards and one catch for four yards, so

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Speaker 2: six points. Six points, but it could have been better

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Speaker 2: than that. And I started the Broncos defense as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so a lot of that's a lot of carryover.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, there's some similarities there. But just you know,

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Speaker 3: Real quick on Gibson, I said they they demoted Ramandre

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Speaker 2: Gibson the first carry of the game, and then they.

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Speaker 3: Said they were you're in. Yeah, so I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: how much that Todd m a lesson, but yeah, he

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Speaker 2: Stevenson was good. Looking at this week's top performers, there

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Speaker 2: were actually passing yards, there were a whole lot of them.

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Speaker 2: It was a big week for big plays across the league.

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Speaker 2: On defense too, Yeah, how I think about it, Kirk

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Speaker 2: Cousins five h nine four touchdowns was great in that game.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow three nine, five touchdown passes, really bad interception,

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Speaker 3: The fourth quarter. Among his game. I'm sure we'll go

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Speaker 3: around the league. Yeah, talk real football stuff here division,

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Speaker 3: But the offense is good. But that was a big,

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Speaker 3: big mistake.

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence three to seventy one and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Twenty fifth birthday. There you go, first last team that

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Speaker 3: needed to win his first big game of the season. Really,

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Speaker 2: Flacco in that same game three fifty nine and three touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: But not a lot of defense in that game.

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Speaker 2: Not a lot of defense played in that game, and

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Speaker 2: he is not going to be probably starting next week.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't sound like Yeah, and Pierce, all those guys did well.

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott three fifty two to two touchdowns, two interceptions

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Speaker 2: and the fumble again a big yard his day. Lamar

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Speaker 2: Jackson three forty eight and four touchdown passes, uh CJ.

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Speaker 3: A touchdown even after Nico went down. Yeah, it kind

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Speaker 3: of shifted, although it.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't as good once Nico is out of They wanted

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Speaker 2: to jump out to the big lead and held on

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Speaker 2: to win. No.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, Nika's been one of the best receivers in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, won that twenty three to twenty. Caleb Williams three

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Speaker 2: Carolina though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, starting to look better though, I mean him and

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Speaker 3: bow Knicks are. I'm not saying they're out of the woods,

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Speaker 3: but they're looking like they've been in the league a

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Speaker 2: Gino Smith had two eighty four in a touchdown, but

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Speaker 2: to your point, the sacks seven times in that game.

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Speaker 2: Stafford had two sixty in a touchdown with an interception.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones was serviceable two fifty seven and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: He's never bad for fish. He had like twelve carries

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Speaker 2: in the game. Always, always, always, That's what I thought

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Speaker 2: you'd see from fields this week was, yeah, running out

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Speaker 2: of football a little bit more. Yeah, want more of that.

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Speaker 2: Looking at some of the top rushing.

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Speaker 3: For the week, if I can get the what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Okay here it comes all right.

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Speaker 2: So we only had with all that passing, three guys

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Speaker 2: top one hundred rushing yards Tyrone Tracy.

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Speaker 3: Say they're not the usual names necessarily either.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen for one twenty nine didn't score. So funny story

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Speaker 2: about this. I picked up Tyrone Tracy last week in

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Speaker 2: our league. Yeah on when Wednesday or Thursday, I can't

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Speaker 2: remember which day. And I almost picked up Kyle Pitts

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Speaker 2: because he's somebody cut him with Thursday night and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick up Tracy because it looks like Singleton

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Speaker 2: might not play well. Then Singleton practiced on Friday, and.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, and pits that nice day the night at four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I'm gonna pivot here. It doesn't look

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Speaker 2: like I might have needed a running back to start.

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Speaker 2: But then Taylor got declared out and I had picked

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Speaker 2: up Sermon as well, And then I made a trade

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Speaker 2: as well for Jerome Ford.

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Speaker 3: So you had dudes you could play.

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Speaker 2: I had two guys I could play. I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: don't need Tracy, probably not the long term answer, So

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Speaker 2: I cut him loose and he.

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Speaker 3: Never got to play a game with your squad. He

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Speaker 3: was on my practice squad for a day. Get picked

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Speaker 3: up this week. Somebody had picked him up already.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I'll probably leak after I after I cut him,

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Speaker 2: my son picked him up. He must have said, oh,

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Speaker 2: my dad picked him up, he must be good, so

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Speaker 2: they start him. I don't know if he did or not.

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Speaker 2: I didn't look, but he had one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: nine yards. You know, he's a good pass catching back.

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Speaker 2: He was a wide receiver at Perdue.

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Speaker 3: Singletary's been better than I expected. But he's not that

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Speaker 3: much of a roadblock for this guy either. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right. Karen Williams twenty two for oneh two in a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: He's been consistent. He's he's better than I thought i'd

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Speaker 2: be this year. Yeah, uh, down on him. Bigsby thirteen

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Speaker 2: for one oh one and two touchdowns. He out snapped

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Speaker 2: Travis Atn in that game.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: I think he is.

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Speaker 3: Quickly, slowly officially becoming their number one. It might be

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Speaker 3: a nausey Warren type six Steve.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you might be able to find a receiver there too,

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Speaker 2: if you're the Steelers. Chewba Hubbard had thirteen for ninety

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Henry had fifteen for ninety two in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: So if you're drafting right now, would Henry be your

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Speaker 3: Jordanneth Walker's a sneaky one. By the way, he apparently

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Jordan Mason had fourteen for eighty nine but didn't

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Speaker 3: The other guys are just worse. Yeah, and this the shot.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Wright had thirteen for eighty six. Chan got hurt,

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure Jalen Wright was a hot pick up,

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Speaker 2: James Connor had nineteen for eighty six and that win

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Speaker 3: As importantly, he had every running back touch. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Let's move on here to the top receivers of

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Speaker 2: ten for one to ninety three and two touchdowns. Baltimore's

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Speaker 3: Is a problem. It's a problem. That absolutely is.

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Speaker 2: Drake London in a Thursday and eight game twelve for

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Speaker 2: nice Yeah, Drake London in our league and it just

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Speaker 3: And I think that's what we expected when we drafted him.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's a really good player.

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Speaker 2: A YUK finally had a game eight for one forty seven.

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Speaker 2: We talked about him in DFS and didn't pull the

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a coincidence that I you

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Speaker 3: I remember why we paid him, you know.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Alec Peerce three for one thirty four in

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Speaker 3: He's very hit or miss. Yeah, but Richardson doesn't kill

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Speaker 3: He hurts down.

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Speaker 2: You just don't get a ton of He's he's this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those of guys, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not gonna Nickel one diamond. They're not Wandell Robinson.

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Speaker 2: How about this one, Matt Darius Slayton.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about Darius Slayton quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: On this show as a potential Steelers trade target eight

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Speaker 3: Got a big target share with Neighbors out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he basically became Neighbors exactly, and he produced like Neighbors.

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Speaker 3: It was like thirty five percent or something. Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: He's a good player.

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Speaker 3: He's a good player.

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Speaker 2: He's a good player, and he's not making a ton

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Speaker 2: it's been it'll be you know, over two weeks for

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Speaker 3: I bet you could prby him away.

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Speaker 2: Still yeah, I mean that would be a guy that

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Speaker 3: He'd be a starter here. Every time he gets an opportunity,

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Speaker 3: he produces. He just you know, for whatever he drafted

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they renegotiated that, you know, less than the

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Speaker 2: be around. So Brian Thomas five in a touchdown he

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Speaker 2: I think Terry McLaurin four for one twelve didn't score,

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Speaker 3: He's clearly the one and what's become a really good offense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Zay Flowers had seven for one eleven but didn't score.

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Speaker 3: And not Andrews and not Mark Andrews and Charlie Koller

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Speaker 3: It's quite possible because Bateman had the other one, right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Uh. Darnell Mooney nine for one oh five and two

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Speaker 3: Close I mean in the neighborhood. Yea, yeah. Anyway, he

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Speaker 3: It's old team, yep.

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Speaker 2: And then Garrett Wilson had thirteen for one oh one

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Speaker 3: I mean, like if you're I know, people were frustrated,

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Speaker 2: That's kind of what he did last year though.

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Speaker 3: But if he's getting that much target share, he'll be fine,

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Speaker 2: They're the they're the team that you know, the Jets

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Speaker 2: need to trade for DeVante Adams. Aaron Rodgers wants it.

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Speaker 2: He wants to go there and make this happen. What

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Speaker 3: That would be a different world. Yeah, if I'm Adams,

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Speaker 3: I would have no interest to going to the Jets.

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Speaker 3: But except for my buddies there, Rogers doesn't look good, yes,

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Speaker 3: and no, I mean he does.

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Speaker 2: He looks like an old quarterback doesn't want to hit.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's where he's I mean ball still, you can

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Speaker 3: still fling it. He's not gonna be the playmaker. He's

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Speaker 2: He still does this stuff where he's jumping in the

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Speaker 2: I don't know that his arm strength is what it was.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing that's dwindled is I always talked

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Speaker 3: all their highlight tapes, I might pick Rogers. But if

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Speaker 3: I showed all their low light tapes, I might pick Rogers.

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Speaker 2: But now now are there. Yeah, he also missed the mistake.

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Speaker 2: Oh No, those days are Those days are gone. So

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Speaker 3: And it's probably gonna get shorter like Ben did at

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Speaker 3: you see a lot, yeh know, it's kind of Deontae esque,

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Speaker 2: Some guys you just missed. Brock Bauers had eight for

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Speaker 2: ninety seven and a touchdown. Steelers are going to see

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Speaker 3: Passing game. But Myers has done pretty well too with

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Speaker 3: Adam sitting. But that's those two hours is very impressive.

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Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson got targeted like crazy in that game against

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Speaker 3: I would saying, I think we were thinking exactly that.

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Speaker 2: Holds and they just were just trying to do whatever

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Jordan Whittington seven for eighty nine. Yeah, solid, Yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They make do with the Atwells and Parkinson and Whittington's

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Speaker 3: not winning, I'm much certain, but I think they're on

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Speaker 3: a buy and expect either Cupp or Nakua after the bye.

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Speaker 3: I think the Cup is back. Niku is still a

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago. Okay, I knew somebody was on

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Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts had seven for eighty eight but didn't score.

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Speaker 3: Enough that he shouldn't be on the waiver Wine, I

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Speaker 3: i'd start him over Andrews. Who's my other action, you know, Like,

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Speaker 3: I'll probably put a Clayman for him, but he's gonna

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Speaker 2: Christian Kirk had four for eighty eight. Tucker Craft four

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Speaker 2: seven for eighty seven against the Steelers, t Higgins nine

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Speaker 2: for eighty three and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Like, if this was the Cowboys audio network, I think

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Speaker 3: we'd be excited to be very excited about Tolbert. Yeah,

444
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Speaker 3: like you have found something there. You know.

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Speaker 2: Michael Wilson at five for seventy used to be out

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Speaker 2: a while, right, Yeah, he's on, he's.

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Speaker 3: On ir Yeah, so absolutely. Uh.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Jacobe Myers, who the Steelers will see this week,

449
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Speaker 2: six for seventy two.

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Speaker 3: So this guys are John Moover, but he gets a

451
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Speaker 3: lot of attention though.

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Speaker 2: Josh Downs did it again, nine for six good. Nine,

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Speaker 2: he's good.

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Speaker 3: But boy Richardson will kill Richardson kills him. Yeah, Placos,

455
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Speaker 3: these were the two.

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Speaker 2: Weeks if you knew Flacco was going to play, go

457
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Speaker 2: ahead and start him. Josh Downs is a might be

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Speaker 2: a better version of one Dell Robinson.

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Speaker 3: I think he is. He's a precise short route runner

460
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Speaker 3: that can can get deep more so than Robinson, a

461
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Speaker 3: little more physical, a little more explosive. I wish Downs

462
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Speaker 3: with Steeler, I mean, but could you use him? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean he's a really good player,

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Speaker 3: but his numbers won't be great with Richard's.

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Speaker 2: No, no, it's just not as good. But those are

466
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Speaker 2: the top performers this week. A few new names on there.

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Speaker 3: Not many tight ends in the top list.

468
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Speaker 2: No, not too many Bowers, Yeah, Bowers or some good

469
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Speaker 2: ones of it.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Off Tucker Kraft will be a hot pick up this

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Speaker 2: week if he wasn't already.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure what Musgrave story is. Yeah. I

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Speaker 3: went parts of that passing.

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Speaker 2: Game absolutely, But let's get to a break. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. That's going

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Speaker 2: to do it for the fantasy football focus. Matt and

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Speaker 2: I will be back right after this talk more Steelers Cowboys fallout.

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Speaker 3: Don't you go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is Dean,

485
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt getting back to the Steelers game

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Speaker 2: against the Cowboys. Are there long term concerns? I know

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Speaker 2: that we look when we talked about the game against

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Speaker 2: the Colts, and again I felt like they kind of

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Speaker 2: got that one back under control after the first couple

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Speaker 2: of drives. Are there long term term concerns that maybe

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Speaker 2: something has been unearthed about the Steelers defense by by somebody.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the Cowboys saw something that the Colts. I know,

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Speaker 2: teams are running against their nickel defense.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a trend that they're going to have

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Speaker 3: to change or throw Benton in the game, or do

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Speaker 3: something schematically to So I think you could make the argument,

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Speaker 3: if you want to be really, really harsh, that they

498
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Speaker 3: played a extremely rusty Kirk Cousins, a completely overmatched Bo Nicks,

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Speaker 3: and injured Justin Herbert, and then the two good quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: kind of ripped them up. I mean, I'm not in

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Speaker 3: that camp, but if I was making the case against

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Speaker 3: the defense, I would go that direction. I don't really

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Speaker 3: believe it, though I don't either, because you know we

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Speaker 3: could go I said, the best defensive league you. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I believe that. At the moment, you.

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Speaker 2: Still face Bijon Robinson in that game against the Falcons,

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Speaker 2: you still face their offensive line, which is one of

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Speaker 2: the better ones, and they still had their center at

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Speaker 2: that point and you didn't let them run all over you.

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Speaker 2: And Bjeon Robinson and Tyler Algier are certainly capable of

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Speaker 2: doing that.

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Speaker 3: I was talking more about pass defense though, to be

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Speaker 3: honest with you.

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Speaker 2: But if you're selling out to stop the run, you

515
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Speaker 2: might give up some stuff in the passing game. And

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Speaker 2: that didn't happen. They give the one touchdown.

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Speaker 3: The one thing that needs cleaned up, which I don't

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Speaker 3: think is a trend that you can just attack, is

519
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Speaker 3: there's been some communication breakdown.

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Speaker 2: Communication breakdowns, So that's been the biggest issue to me,

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Speaker 2: right that's led to some of those starts.

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Speaker 3: Well, besides the slock corner. They're not picking on one thing,

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Speaker 3: you know, the slock corner I don't think get better.

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Speaker 2: There's not a team in the league that doesn't have

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Speaker 2: communication breakdowns. In fact, John Harbaugh said today at his

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Speaker 2: press conference he counted five or six breakdowns in Baltimore's

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Speaker 2: secondary that led to tout shots. And those guys have

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Speaker 2: played together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's not uncommon. You can't happen

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Speaker 3: and needs to be cleaned up. The Herberts and Dax

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Speaker 3: are going to find it. Yeah, that's the thing. Bownecks

532
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Speaker 3: won't but well he didn't even try.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know the k next game is it

534
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Speaker 2: is what it is. I mean there, I think their

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Speaker 2: defense looking at what their defense has done the last

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Speaker 2: few weeks since the Steeler game Denver, Yeah, Denver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Their offense is not a good offense, and it hasn't

539
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Speaker 2: been all year long, but they haven't lost since three, right,

540
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Speaker 2: but it's been largely on the on because of their defense.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers offense went out there and did what it

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Speaker 2: needed to do against that defense.

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Speaker 3: Which is a good one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I thought we were just on Steeler defense. I'm just

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Speaker 3: talking overall.

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Speaker 2: Okay. In terms of the game against the Chargers, you

548
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Speaker 2: could say Herbert was yeah, but he was hurt coming

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Speaker 2: into the game. There's still a team that wants to

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Speaker 2: run the football.

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Speaker 3: I think a game. I also thought he played well,

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Speaker 3: yeah before he got knock by the game, I thought

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Speaker 3: he played well.

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Speaker 2: You shut down there, you shut down their running game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's good and he's good, he's good. So

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Speaker 3: I guess big picture, if I want to go back

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Speaker 3: to the quarterback conversation, I still think the win against Atlanta,

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Speaker 3: no matter what, looks better now than then. Yeah, certainly

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Speaker 3: true about Denver in their building to start the season.

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Speaker 3: They even't lost since, I must say, in their powerhouse.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, that's a better win than it looked

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Speaker 3: a time.

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Speaker 2: Chargers.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to think. We haven't really seen

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Speaker 3: much of them since.

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Speaker 2: They haven't won since.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's better or worse, but neither

568
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Speaker 3: one of us thought they were a Super Bowl champion

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Speaker 3: coming into the Steeler game. The Colts won, They're the Colts.

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Speaker 3: Here's what worries me a little about the looking at

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Speaker 3: the Colts in context is the Colts defense. It was

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Speaker 3: really really bad up until and was really bad yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I would have liked to see the Steiler offense rip

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Speaker 3: that thing apart more than they did, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. But to a certain degree they did, I'd say,

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Speaker 3: but they did have a lot of success against They

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Speaker 3: had a lot of success, and they had some self

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Speaker 3: inflicted wounds that they moved the football against what I

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Speaker 3: think is one of the bat worts defenses in the league.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what to think of this cowboy loss. There's obviously talent there.

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Speaker 2: I think the Cowboys are a good team and I think.

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Speaker 3: They end in the playoffs. Yeah, you know, they have

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Speaker 3: a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And again in both of these losses, it came down

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Speaker 2: to one play essentially, And I know it doesn't come

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Speaker 2: down to one play, of course, but you had opportunities

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Speaker 2: that one different. You had opportunities to win both of

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Speaker 2: these games the last two weeks. You just didn't get

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Speaker 2: it done. And that's been something that traditionally Tomlin's teams

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Speaker 2: have done, is win these close games. Well, now you've

592
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Speaker 2: lost a couple, so you now know what it feels

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Speaker 2: like to be on the other end of those things.

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Speaker 3: There's a couple of trends that have changed lately that

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Speaker 3: the one score game stuff, and well if you win

596
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Speaker 3: to turn over a battery, win a game, you know,

597
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Speaker 3: like times are changing, you know, and there's that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna stay the same forever. There's different quarterbacks,

599
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Speaker 3: the style plays differently. It is different, But worries me.

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Speaker 3: We're from actually from where I sit is looking at

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Speaker 3: the Colts leading into that game, looking at Dallas leading

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Speaker 3: into that game. And I had a good conversation with

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Speaker 3: Wolf and Starks was with us today. I mean, like

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Speaker 3: You can't look too much into numbers. These are all

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Speaker 3: human beings. But I said a couple of times, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna have a hard time believing the Steelers unless disaster happens,

607
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Speaker 3: loses the Colts game or loses.

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Speaker 2: The Cowboy game.

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna say the exact same thing before we

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Speaker 3: go to the Raider game too, because they're pretty darn bad.

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Speaker 3: But the row and for two in those conversations, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean. Yeah, I just and I know

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Speaker 3: that you can lose anybody in this league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Again, that's that's the reality of it.

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Speaker 2: Especially you know in the Colts game, if you made

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Speaker 2: you were the team that made the mistakes offensively, that

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Speaker 2: turned the ball.

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Speaker 3: Over, You're gonna lose a lot of teams like that.

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Speaker 2: In this one against the Cowboys, their quarterback was able

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Speaker 2: to overcome some of this stuff. Now, some of those

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Speaker 2: things that he did, but that's kind of who he

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Speaker 2: has been throughout his career. He's been a guy who's

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Speaker 2: loosing in the pocket with the football. He's been a

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Speaker 2: guy who will throw some interceptions, but he's also a

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Speaker 2: guy who can elevate the receivers. You know, when Rob

627
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Speaker 2: talked about him, early in his career, well, early in

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Speaker 2: his career, he wasn't necessarily the elevator.

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Speaker 3: No, was the year as he was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had Ezekiel Elliott. They still had.

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Speaker 3: They still had Zach Martin and Tyrone Smith and yeah, a.

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Speaker 2: Really good offensive line. They still had, you know, receivers

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Speaker 2: that were you know, Bryant was still a guy at

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Speaker 2: that point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or and then he got replaced by Amari like

636
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Speaker 3: those that guy they.

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Speaker 2: Had those those kind of guys that could elevate the

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Speaker 2: quarterback play as well. Well, now he's at the point

639
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Speaker 2: in his career where he's the elevator and.

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Speaker 3: So And I'm not implying that Dallas dominated the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: That's that word's way too big. But I could explain

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00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: away the Colts loss easier because from the majority of

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Speaker 3: the game, I thought the Steelers were a better team

644
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Speaker 3: than the Colts. Yeah, and they didn't end up winning.

645
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Speaker 3: That happens in this game. I thought the Cowboys were

646
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Speaker 3: the better team higher percentage of the time.

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree. Yeah, the Steelers had a bad night. Yeah,

648
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Speaker 2: there's no offens or buts about it, or say.

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Speaker 3: More resistance to Dallas's offense.

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Speaker 2: And the Cowboys were they were a wounded animal.

651
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Speaker 3: They were wounded animal.

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Speaker 2: Yea, you know there. Their injuries were every bit, maybe

653
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Speaker 2: even more so than this than what the Steelers had.

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Speaker 3: Michael Parsons, I mean that's like wat being out. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I had them right where you wanted him

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Speaker 3: going into that.

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Speaker 2: They played that game without Wanton Heismith. The difference to me, however,

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Speaker 2: was Prescott. He was the difference in that game.

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Speaker 3: I did too. He was the MVP of the game.

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Speaker 3: He was the most important guy. What worries me, what

661
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: if they don't have high Smith, Leal and her break

662
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: this week. I have no idea the severity of all

663
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: those injuries. But I'm super excited or super you know,

664
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: happy about the situation. Like louder Milk was over there

665
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: at the end, I mean it was more of a

666
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: fore man front. But I mean they changed things.

667
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you'll have to do some of that kind

668
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 2: of stuff because I just don't know that you can

669
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: line up and if I'm the Raiders, I didn't think

670
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: Moon looked good. But first game back, you know, there's

671
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: some there's some things that they can do that you know,

672
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: maybe you bring somebody back off the couch. I don't know,

673
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: are they at that point? It just you know, I

674
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: don't know.

675
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: We'll find that.

676
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: I was a week and you go, Marcus Golden, you

677
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: want to come out of retirement and play with.

678
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: How about to give you a little signing bonus or whatever,

679
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: because you know Wat's going to even get more attention. Yeah,

680
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: and he's used to it, but he's going to get tripled.

681
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, if I'm the Raiders, you might have

682
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: the blitzmore. You know, I might want to be Well,

683
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: that's the thing. So I'm sitting in the press box

684
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: yesterday and one of the other reports goes, they're not

685
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: blitzing Prescott at all. I'm like, have you seen his

686
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: numbers against the blitzer? You don't blitz him?

687
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 3: No, that's silly. We talked about that plenty, going in

688
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: like that's a bad ideas.

689
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: You can't do it because he'll find the open guy.

690
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: He's killed the blitzer years. And then you showed us,

691
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: you know last week his numbers versus pressure in general

692
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: were off the chart this year. You know, they also

693
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: didn't blitz Fields much. I know it's percentages today, Like

694
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: people are starting to honor Fields. He used to be

695
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 3: like the most blitz quarterback out there, and last two

696
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: teams haven't.

697
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, you were rushing your four,

698
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: you're dropping you know seven. You should be able to

699
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: make some plays on the football, and they did, but

700
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: not enough.

701
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: So one thing about that right outside linebacker spot, if

702
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 3: it's dire times, I mixed feelings about it. But Collinsworth

703
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: even brought up last night. He's like, don't be surprised

704
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: if this guy's rushing off the edge like her Big

705
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: at some point this year after he gets his feet

706
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: under him. He did a lot of at NC State.

707
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: He's a rookie and he's played four or five games,

708
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And I don't look at

709
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: him as a Herbig like pass run.

710
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: But they did that. They had to do that with

711
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: Lawrence Timmins.

712
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: You're talking about.

713
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: They had to do with Lawrence Timmins for a year

714
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: at times. And again you may not get the pass rusher.

715
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: But I'm at the point now though in the Nickel defense,

716
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't want to land In

717
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: Roberts out there, Yeah, just to give yeah, get me

718
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: an extra run stopper out there, because he's good.

719
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're allowing a lot in nickel verse run

720
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying it's on the linebackers, but but

721
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: if he's a good run stuffer, yeah, I might concede

722
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: a little bit of middle of the field range.

723
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: And especially if you have to you have to hit

724
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: the break if necessary, uh you know button here and

725
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: put Peyton.

726
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: Wilson an outside linebacker. Well then that just definitely. Yeah,

727
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: Like if he's coming off the edge, he's still dropping

728
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: in the coverage.

729
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: Off the Yeah, my best eleven on the field.

730
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: There might be three off the ball guys. Yeah, yeah,

731
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: i lest see a little more from queen.

732
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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

733
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he sets up more to be his his spot.

734
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: Should be making a lot of plays. Yeah, I'm making

735
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: a lot of plays.

736
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean he's making the stuff that's there for him.

737
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: But you want to see splash. You know, that's what

738
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: they're paying They're paying.

739
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: Him for splash. And he had a couple of yesterday

740
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: where he's chasing sideline. The sideline You're like, it goes

741
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: a rocket ship, you know. But he's needs to be

742
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: a difference maker.

743
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: And here's you know, we're talking about communication issues. He's

744
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: the communication hub on the defense. Yeah, but there.

745
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: They've been mostly secondary stuff, right, Like he's not safety

746
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 3: corner responsibilities, you know, but he is the play caller.

747
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: And we forget that that three of the five guy

748
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: defensive backs who are out there all the time basically

749
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: or the majority of the time, are new guys to

750
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: the team.

751
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah right, you know. So, but those excuses

752
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 3: and offensive excuses are soon out the window, you know,

753
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: Like I know, there's a lot of shuffling. Nobody cares anymore. Yeah,

754
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 3: nobody cares to me again with I mean, that's how

755
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: the league is, but it doesn't mean it's not there,

756
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: you know. And like Lynnvell Joseph, he was a rock

757
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: in the middle of that lineup, and Frasier's a really

758
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: good center. But that guy wasn't going anywhere.

759
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: Fifty pounds old man strong.

760
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: That is going to do that for ten years if

761
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 3: he wants, just he's been doing it for more than

762
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,239
Speaker 3: ten years already, right right, you can do as long

763
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 3: as he wants, because he came out of the womb

764
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: like that, you know.

765
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Speaker 2: So this one, so we talked about this off year,

766
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: but we haven't talked about it on the air. There's

767
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: this idea that Minka Fitzpatrick, Well, he's just playing awful.

768
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: I don't see it like that he's doing. And so

769
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: I'm rewatching the game last night. As I finished up

770
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: with the game at the game, went to the locker room,

771
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: talked to some players, went back up to the press box,

772
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: transcribed a you know everything I got from the locker room,

773
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: and I said, looked up and it was two o'clock

774
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: in the morning. I said, you know what, I'm going

775
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: to drive home to write my ten thoughts instead of

776
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: waiting till after I wrote my ten thoughts and then

777
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: driving home at like five in the morning. Neither's an idea.

778
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: There's idea. Yeah. So I went home and I threw

779
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: the replay the game on while I was writing my

780
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: ten thoughts, and I'm listening to the broadcast and Collinsworth

781
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: is talking about we'll make it. Fitzpatrick's got to get

782
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: over and make that play. But he's shading towards h

783
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb on that play, no kidding what they want

784
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: him to do, right, right, So he's shading over and

785
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: the Cowboys know this because everybody shades to Ceedee Lamb.

786
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 3: If he's on the left hash and you expect him

787
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 3: to make a play on the right sideline. It might

788
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: be asking a bit much.

789
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: So because collins Worth said that, well, now that's what

790
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: I'll make. That's make a Fitzpatrick's fault for not, you know,

791
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: for not making that play. You can't have him do both.

792
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: Do you want to see Ceedee Lamb take the game over,

793
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: because he's certainly capable of doing that, the guy one

794
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty catches last year. Yes, he's going to

795
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: get a lot of attention. I did.

796
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: I do think we said this some an hour ago,

797
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: but we definitely talked about a lot off the air.

798
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 3: Is the clear goal was don't let Lamb. Yeah, don't

799
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: let Lamb kill you. And then Ferguson's second and there

800
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 3: was a handful of snaps against hard on TV where

801
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 3: it was pretty clear Minka came out of center field,

802
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: KZ was playing center field and he was playing man

803
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: on Ferguson. You know, like situation in those situations, right,

804
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: If you guys think Fitzpatrick's part of the problem, you're

805
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 3: out of your.

806
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: Mind just because he's not getting the turnovers right now, again,

807
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: he's he let him with ten tackles yesterday.

808
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: Did he and they weren't twenty yards downfield.

809
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: No, you know right, yeah, I mean he was making

810
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: he's doing what the defense is asking him to do.

811
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: And in that situation was don't let Ceedee Lamb have

812
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: a twelve catch for one hundred and eighty seven yard.

813
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: Don't let him be Jamar Chase in this game, because

814
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: he's certainly capable of doing that.

815
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: Oh, he's done it all last year. He does often.

816
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 2: He finished that game with five catches for sixty two yards.

817
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: I guarantee you that will be one of the more

818
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: quiet games Ceedee Lamb has this season. Yeah.

819
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: Then he'll operate out of the slot, you'll operate outside.

820
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: You know you're gonna have to around Yeah, yeah, you're

821
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 3: gonna have to help them.

822
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: And so you know, that was their goal to not

823
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: let Ceedee Lamb beat them, and Ceedee Lamb didn't beat them.

824
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: And I bet if they ran it back again today

825
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: they do the same thing. I would, yeah, I mean absolutely,

826
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: and maybe Tolbert still has a nice day. And I

827
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: would hope if you ran it back again today, the

828
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: Steelers will stop the run a little better and get

829
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 3: off the field a little better and those type of things.

830
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: But playing too many snaps was and Dak being a

831
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: really good player was to me the difference. Absolutely. I agree.

832
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 2: Let's get to a break. Yeah, he is the Matt Williamson.

833
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the driver here

834
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be

835
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: fit back to finish up the show right after this.

836
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 2: At least.

837
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

838
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

839
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

840
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale Lollie. He is de

841
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt the AFC right now, topsy Turvy, little,

842
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: topsy turvy, roundstink. Despite the loss yesterday, the Steelers still

843
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: the five seed right now, are they?

844
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: Okaya City doesn't matter tonight obviously.

845
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kansas City four and oh right now leading the AFC.

846
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: You got Houston at four, him one. Baltimore now at

847
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: three and two, tied with the Steelers. They of course

848
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: have the division wins, so that puts them as the

849
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: first place team.

850
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 3: They've actually played a division game.

851
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: Buffalo at three and two would be the four seat,

852
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: the Steelers would be the five seed. Then Denver, wow,

853
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 2: and the Chargers.

854
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: Okay, so Denver's won three in a row.

855
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: And then after those first, after those seven, nobody else

856
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: has a winning record in the conference.

857
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 3: I heard today something like twenty three teams are two

858
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 3: and three or three and two, which is exactly what

859
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: the NFL wants and it is, you know, And now

860
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: we have the Jacksonville won, so we don't have any

861
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: winless teams anymore. Kansas City loses only a one undefeated,

862
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 3: you know. So the team I know, Steelers one row

863
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 3: and they lost to in a row and now they're terrible, and.

864
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: So differently about it, if let's say they lost in

865
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 2: Atlanta where they were underdogs, and maybe lost in Denver

866
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: and then won the last three but won the last three,

867
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: or if they you know, however those loss the Cowboys

868
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: last night to get to three and two.

869
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: One hundred times different, or stupidly enough, let's say the

870
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: exact same game happens. The ball comes out of Dak's

871
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 3: hands exactly and clanks off Tolbert's hands, and the Steelers

872
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 3: waiting on fourth thout, Yeah, did you play any better? No,

873
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 3: you know, not one bit, you know, But if the

874
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 3: fumble is one of the Steelers falls on the fumble, right,

875
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, like one of the last players

876
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: of the game goes slightly different and you did nothing better.

877
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: You know, they just screwed it up just a little bit,

878
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: you know, like or dak overthrows them like, ooh, we're

879
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: so much better now do anything different. Yeah, So that's

880
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 3: just what the league is.

881
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: Is.

882
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: My point was parody, and they're getting.

883
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: It so right now, if you look at strength of schedule,

884
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: Kansas City's at four seventy four, Houston's at five sixty.

885
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: This is who they've played so far.

886
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Baltimore and Pittsburgh are third in the conference at

887
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: five forty two. In terms of strength as well, it's

888
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: actually second five point forty two. The Steelers strength of

889
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: victory right now is five seventy one. That's the best

890
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: in the AFC with with the exception of Indianapolis. Because

891
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: the Colts beat the.

892
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: Steelers, right, I will say I saw it today, which

893
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: doesn't take hard to figure isn't hard to figure out.

894
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: Steel's next three opponents all have losing records as we speak,

895
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 3: so that's only going to go down, right assuming you win.

896
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: I bring this up because Buffalo's strength of victory right

897
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: now is three thirty three in a rough spot, right,

898
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: Buffalo in the last two weeks is played Baltimore in Houston. Yeah,

899
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: and they hit. They were down big against Houston yesterday.

900
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: Came back and made it. Baltimore smoked him. Baltimore crushed them.

901
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: They baby stepped their way into it and then they

902
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 3: got blown out. Yeah. All the DeVante Adams talked to

903
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: Buffet to Steelers is great, But if I was Buffalo,

904
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: I'd be after him hard.

905
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

906
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 3: I mean, especially just sitting there watching Stefan Diggs fill

907
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 3: in for Nico Collins on the same field you're on.

908
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 3: And I understand Diggs it's hard to deal with or whatever,

909
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: but I'm sure Josh Allen on third and six is like,

910
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 3: Houston's playing man coverage like every snap and we have

911
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: nobody can get off press man coverage, Like what am

912
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: I going to do? And Digs are on the sidelines

913
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 3: waving at him.

914
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: I don't know if he was waving waving something else.

915
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 2: So here's the other thing. You know who the last

916
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 2: place team in the AFC is Browns sixteenth, number sixteen Cincinnati. Wow,

917
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: because like all the tie breakers are because they're zero

918
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: and three in the conference. Wow.

919
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: Okay, And a division Losso by the way, but.

920
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: Right, and three of their losses have comeing home, so

921
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: they've played. I mean, it's an uphill climb. It's an

922
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: uphill climb. And now we talked to they said the

923
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: same thing last year about Buffalo, right, and they climbed it,

924
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 2: and they climbed it and they got back into it.

925
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 2: I don't if the Bengals can do that though, based

926
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 2: on what they currently have. Yeah, with that defense, that was.

927
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: A crazy game. It's a really good game too.

928
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: Could have won it.

929
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, nine touchdown passes between two really really

930
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 3: high end quarterbacks. And are we happy the Ravens won?

931
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 4: Though?

932
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: I remember I asked you that on Friday. Be nice

933
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 3: of the Bengals that disappear, and they're pretty close to disappear,

934
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: getting very close. Didn't knowed they were sixteenth, sixteenth dead

935
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 3: last stuff. But the Ravens are scarier now. I mean,

936
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: it's been nice to still have a game on the Ravens,

937
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: but get to play them all twice. That's a nice

938
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 3: thing about it. You know that game yesterday of the

939
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 3: one win teams in the AFC. Though, I still get

940
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: the Bengals the best chance.

941
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: Of your one win teams now are Tennessee, Cleveland, New England, Jacksonville, Cincinnati.

942
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 3: They're still the best, but I'm happy that they're the

943
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: worst tiebreakers.

944
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 2: They're sitting there with four losses and three of them

945
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: are in conference. He said, three year at home and

946
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 2: three of them have been at home. Yeah, and they're

947
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: one win. Came over a team that has one win, Carolina.

948
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 2: That's the one team that they beat.

949
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 3: Like, when it's all said and done, that's not a

950
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 3: good if you just look at their record and just

951
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 3: look at the standings, like this team is terrible. Yeah,

952
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 3: but they're not. You know, Cleveland's one win right now,

953
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 3: Cleveland can't make the playoffs. Cleveland's done. Cleveland's done.

954
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: You want to talk about a bad football team, Yea.

955
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: Offensively, they are. They're gonna be like the thirties.

956
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: And they're the worst offensive team in the league.

957
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: I think so too. Miami and New England will have

958
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: some arguments, but I would take either one of them

959
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 3: over Cleveland.

960
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: They can't run the ball, they can't throw it.

961
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 3: No quarterbacks. The quarterback he's not gonna be stay upright

962
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: and he's not going to be out of the lineup. Yeah,

963
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 3: and they get it, they're gonna keep starting him. Yeah,

964
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: and it's it's affected the defense. Now, Miles Garrett played

965
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: the entire game yesterday. Yeah, it blew me away.

966
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: He played. I looked it up, like fifty eight defensive snaps.

967
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: Fifty eight. He had no stats in that game.

968
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing. Not a tackle, assist, half a second.

969
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure Pro Football Focus had him for like seventeen

970
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: hurries but nothing.

971
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing, not one stat. We've seen it so often,

972
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 3: where a strong unit like that that was probably gonna

973
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 3: come backwards a little, no matter what I mean. They

974
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: probably were gonna be a top two defense, but they

975
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: probably gonna be a top eight defense. And you go

976
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: in the locker room like, you guys are horrendous, and

977
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 3: you're just gonna keep trotting on the same quarterback and

978
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: you expect us to get you wins.

979
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: Like now, we can't do it. I can remember, you know,

980
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: back in ninety three, you know, Greg.

981
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: Lloyd blowing up on the off defense at halftime, like

982
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 4: they needed to win against Cleveland in the last game

983
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 4: of the year and they were losing against the Browns

984
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 4: who were bad that year.

985
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: And he went offense.

986
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the offense wasn't holding up its end of

987
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: the bargain. He said, look, you guys are messing with

988
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: my money here because he wanted the playoff check that,

989
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: you know, to make the playoffs. And uh, he didn't

990
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: say messing.

991
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. But but if it's okay, if it's like I'm

992
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: the tenth best defense, you're the twentieth best offense. Yeah,

993
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 3: but if it's like one in thirty two.

994
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: It gets old, man, right, it gets old. And you

995
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: know that you see that we can't protect our quarterback.

996
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: Even when we do protect them, he can't make any throws.

997
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: All of Deshaun Watson's throws are to the running backs. Yes,

998
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: Mary Cooper's out there running routes for no apparent reason.

999
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they can When are they gonna move on

1000
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 3: from him? And like, are they gonna look at this thing?

1001
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: It's like, we better save some money in the future.

1002
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 3: Dump some guys. Yeah, I'm wondering. I mean, I know

1003
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 3: the trade deadline's on for a while, but Christian Kirk,

1004
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 3: Amari Cooper, Watt Hopkins, I mean, there's a lot of

1005
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: guys that are.

1006
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: Are the Bengals a couple of losses from saying you

1007
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 2: know what, let's get something for t Higgins while we can.

1008
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: Maybe one more. I think they have a pretty easy

1009
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: game this week, but I don't know if anything's an

1010
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 3: easy game anymore. You know, they can't stop anybody. You

1011
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: go one and five or one and six, and you

1012
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,959
Speaker 3: have no plans to bring them back.

1013
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: I mean them, the Chiefs. They got the Giants this

1014
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 2: week in New York.

1015
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: That's not as easy as looks. No, the Giants just

1016
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: went out to Seattle and beat them. Yeah, and they'll

1017
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: rush the passer and.

1018
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 2: Run the football and you know, do all that stuff.

1019
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: Then they then there's basically what's going to be an

1020
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: elimination game on November twenty or October twentieth, Cincinnati at Cleveland.

1021
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, even if they both win this week, the

1022
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: loser of that game's.

1023
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: Out of it, because then Cincinnati goes they host the Eagles,

1024
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: they host the Raiders. Then they're at Baltimore at the Chargers,

1025
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: Steelers at home, at the Cowboys at the Titans, Browns

1026
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: at home, Broncos at home. That doesn't look as easy

1027
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: as it did before, and then at the Steelers again,

1028
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: Like how many more losses can they afford? You know,

1029
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: they they you're losing the gimmes here, you've lost the Patriots. Yeah,

1030
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 2: they can probably allow two more. Yeah, I mean it

1031
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: can't be. And you don't have a lot of home

1032
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: games in your back pocket. You know that's gonna be tough.

1033
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: It's interesting, Matt. That's gonna do for the show today,

1034
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: all right. So, uh well, we'll be back again tomorrow.

1035
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: We'll see what Mike Tomlin has to say, if anything

1036
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: about the quarterback situation. I'm sure we'll find out more

1037
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 2: about some of those injuries and uh how severe they are,

1038
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 2: what happens there.

1039
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 3: Uh.

1040
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: But uh, for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller

1041
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: here on site keeping us on the air, and for

1042
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: Tyler Viittmeyer running our video department out of this thing here.

1043
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: He said, you are the video manager. I've just promoted you.

1044
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: How about that, Tyler. Uh, I'm dell Allie. We appreciate

1045
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Speaker 2: you listening to this edition of the Drive on the

1046
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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.