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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Territorius,

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. Yes, we are live eleven pm Eastern Time,

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Speaker 2: eight Pacific. We're coming off of Bloodbath in Minnesota. Final score.

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Speaker 2: It has gone final Minnesota one forty three, Oklahoma City

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Speaker 2: one oh one.

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Speaker 3: J Mark before we get into that game.

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Speaker 2: And pretty much everything else that has gone on in

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Speaker 2: the world of sports over the last couple of days.

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Speaker 3: How you doing. How's your holiday weekend going so far?

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Speaker 3: It's not too bad. Man. Life is life, but it's

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Speaker 3: a it's a good thing. When you got two daughters.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it can be a little bit challenging, but it's

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Speaker 3: been fine. Saw a movie last night and watched during

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Speaker 3: the forty five minutes of trailers, the end of Nicks

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Speaker 3: Pacers on my phone, so technology rains. I'm able to

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Speaker 3: watch the end of that game while it's happening, so

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Speaker 3: we're multitasking. We got the Monaco Grand Prix. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if you know this about me, but I've developed

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Speaker 3: a pretty big curiosity in F one, so I've kind

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Speaker 3: of been watching that pretty closely this season kind of

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Speaker 3: getting into it. As a matter of fact, I think

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Speaker 3: it might be because you know, all the time I've

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Speaker 3: been doing sports talk or sports coverage, I've never covered

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Speaker 3: F one, well really Nascar or anything like that. So

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Speaker 3: it's like I can just watch this as a fan,

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Speaker 3: you know, like I can. I can actually kind of

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Speaker 3: watch this and decide to get into it on my

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Speaker 3: own knowing that we're not really gonna talk F one

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Speaker 3: on this show. So it's actually become kind of a

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Speaker 3: little side hobby that I like, Well, you know, I

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Speaker 3: always joke about it this time of year. Maybe you don't.

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Speaker 2: Other people tease me about it, but I actually get

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Speaker 2: into college baseball this time of year, and it's for

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Speaker 2: the exact same reason. It's like I don't have to

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Speaker 2: have a take. I don't pretend that I know what's

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Speaker 2: going on. I just throw it on and you know,

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Speaker 2: I I've won. I find it very compelling, especially this

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Speaker 2: time of year. I mean, listen, all postseason sports are.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so I'm in the exact same boat as you.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of that time where it feels like the

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Speaker 2: sports calendar slows down a little bit, but yeah, still

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Speaker 2: plenty to talk about. And let's start with the game

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Speaker 2: that did just go final in Minnesota. As I said,

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Speaker 2: one forty three, one oh one, I already see I

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Speaker 2: already hear you sighing, J Mart.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna give you the floor.

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Speaker 2: I think there are some interesting conversations big picture about

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Speaker 2: this series. But what do you think when I hear

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Speaker 2: when I tell you that Minnesota won by forty two

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Speaker 2: points in a game that was a twenty point deficit

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Speaker 2: after the first quarter and was frankly never really close

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Speaker 2: from there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, most people know I'm a Thunder fan,

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Speaker 3: so that's kind of why I sighed. But this is

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Speaker 3: exactly what I expected. I'd necessarily expect it to be

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Speaker 3: forty two points, but I expected a pretty convincing timber Wolves.

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Speaker 3: It's their whole season. I did not understand, and I'll

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Speaker 3: say this, Thunder were obviously the better team in the

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Speaker 3: first two games, and they're the better team overall. But

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Speaker 3: I did not understand why after Game two everybody seemed

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Speaker 3: to go on TV the next day, including the highest

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Speaker 3: paid guy in all sports media now went on TV

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Speaker 3: and said, Oh, They're gonna get swept. I was like, why,

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Speaker 3: because the Thunder won two home games. Yep, because that's

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Speaker 3: what we saw. They went back home and guess what happened.

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Speaker 3: What always happens. Role players don't show up on the road,

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Speaker 3: they show up at home. And so a lot of

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Speaker 3: the guys that basically disappeared over the first two games arrived.

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Speaker 3: You had Alexander Walker making plays, you had the Vincenzo

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Speaker 3: making plays. Randall had a nice game. I mean, they

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Speaker 3: were just doing a lot of things right early in

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Speaker 3: this game, and they got out to a good start,

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Speaker 3: and I figured what would happen is they would get

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Speaker 3: up to a fairly big lead, and if that did happen,

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Speaker 3: then the thunder would probably just kind of shut it down.

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna waste that much energy to try to

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Speaker 3: that we're not coming back here. So let's save this

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Speaker 3: one for game four. If they win Game four, the

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Speaker 3: series is over. If t Wolves win it, then we

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Speaker 3: still have a series because it's too two and it's

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Speaker 3: all you know, everything is still on serve. But I

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Speaker 3: don't have a gigantic take here. I was just kind

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Speaker 3: of baffled by the thunder doing what you're supposed to

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Speaker 3: do as the seed with home advantage, win the two

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Speaker 3: games at home, look good doing so that all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden the Timberwolves were gonna get swept. That did

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Speaker 3: not ever make sense to me. I from the beginning

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Speaker 3: felt like this was probably a six game series. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's funny.

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Speaker 2: We'll obviously talk about Knicks Pacers here in a little bit,

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Speaker 2: but I think if you want to argue that the

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Speaker 2: and literally no team has ever lost the first two

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Speaker 2: in the conference finals that come back to win the series,

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Speaker 2: you want to argue that one's over, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm pretty much with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, like I could, I don't

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Speaker 2: a sweep coming, but ultimately you have two double figure wins.

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Speaker 2: The Timberwolves in game or excuse me, Oklahoma City in

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Speaker 2: Game two was up by as much as I believe

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Speaker 2: twenty four in the second half, so that one wasn't

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Speaker 2: really close. But I'm with you is that I didn't

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Speaker 2: think that just because okay See dominated the first two

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Speaker 2: form over let me just ask you this. You know

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Speaker 2: you mentioned guys stepping up. You know, Julius Randall was

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Speaker 2: basically a complete no show in the first two games,

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Speaker 2: had a much, much, much well, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: say it was a complete no show, but he was pretty.

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Speaker 3: Good in game one. He was really bad in game two.

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Speaker 2: Correct, and that's that's probably more accurate way to say it.

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Speaker 2: But he had twenty four tonight. As you said, we

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Speaker 2: don't need to go through the entire box score. I

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Speaker 2: think I already know the answer just based on what

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Speaker 2: you told me a minute ago. Does it change? Does

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Speaker 2: this result change at all your perspective on this series?

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Speaker 3: Obviously?

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Speaker 2: Look, we got some something you know, reminiscent of the

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Speaker 2: best version of the Minnesota timber Wolves. Listen when he

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Speaker 2: scored one hundred and forty three points. That tends to

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Speaker 2: happen when you have I'm looking now seven players scoring

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Speaker 2: double figures, led by Anthony Edwards thirty twenty four from Randall. Again,

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Speaker 2: you feel pretty good about you know, how you're gonna

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Speaker 2: perform on that night. But does it ultimately change anything

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Speaker 2: season was on the line. Oka C figured out pretty

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Speaker 2: early they probably didn't have it, and rather than expend energy, risk, injury.

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Speaker 3: Et cetera, kind of called off the dogs.

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Speaker 2: Does this change at all the perspective of the series

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Speaker 2: or is this just or you know, does it change

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Speaker 2: the Does it change your perspective on what's gonna happen

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Speaker 2: or is this just kind of like you said a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it changes my perspective. I still

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Speaker 3: think Oklahoma City is the better team of the two,

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Speaker 3: and I think that will be proven out. But at

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Speaker 3: the same time, I mean, Minnesota is a pretty good

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Speaker 3: way they were in this game, they're gonna be tough

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Speaker 3: to beat. I mean, they shot fifty eight to seven

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Speaker 3: percent from the field and we're twenty of forty five three.

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Speaker 3: They couldn't buy a three pointer on the road, but

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Speaker 3: they made a ton at home, which is kind of

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Speaker 3: what you expect. Then on the flip side, Oklahoma City

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Speaker 3: barely forty percent from the field. So I just feel

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Speaker 3: like this is a home team with their season basically

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Speaker 3: on the brink, doing what you should do. If you're

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Speaker 3: in the Western Conference Finals, you should answer this bell.

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Speaker 3: If you're Minnesota, I'm not taking away from what they did.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying this is what you should expect if you're

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Speaker 3: at all, and that's what you've seen. And look the

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Speaker 3: Knicks and Pacers. The Pacers winning two at MSG like

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Speaker 3: the next season is on the line, similarly, but at

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Speaker 3: the same time, like them going on the road and

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Speaker 3: having to do this. Not only is that a bigger challenge,

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Speaker 3: it's just I mean, it ramps up everything now the Pacers,

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Speaker 3: if they're able to pull off Game three, they're able

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Speaker 3: to win at home the way that they should if

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Speaker 3: their guys are comfortable in the building and everything else.

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Speaker 3: The Knicks are going to be gripping and trying to

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Speaker 3: do maybe too much, and that puts you in this spot.

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Speaker 3: But Minnesota just came home and all they have to

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Speaker 3: do is continue to win. I think this makes Game

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Speaker 3: four much more interesting. I think that's maybe the only takeaway.

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Speaker 3: I still believe ultimately Oklahoma City is just built to

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Speaker 3: win this series and built to win this championship this year.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, oh yeah, I mean, I mean they are

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Speaker 3: my team. Sixty eight games in the regular season. I

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Speaker 3: don't think it's like I'm taking a giant leap here.

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Speaker 3: But whoever they face coming out of the East is

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Speaker 3: going to be a challenge, whether it is the next

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Speaker 3: probably been disrespected more than anybody in the league throughout

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Speaker 3: this season because they did this last year and then

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Speaker 3: people acted like they were going to be nothing this year.

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Speaker 3: And you saw Siakam go off, and you've seen what

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Speaker 3: Halliburton's done. But I don't think Rick Carlisle's gotten enough credit.

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Speaker 3: And I think Minnesota at this stage, I think Minnesota

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Speaker 3: got the got They got all the talk last year

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Speaker 3: and then this year. I just don't know what happened.

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Speaker 3: After Game two. I was trying to understand that discourse.

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Speaker 3: It's like, why are we going to this place? Why

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Speaker 3: does this become the take? Why are you trying to

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Speaker 3: get ahead of this train after falling behind it? Like,

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Speaker 3: this is a basketball series that is two to zero

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Speaker 3: with the home team winning two games. That's exactly what

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Speaker 3: is supposed to happen. Let's slow our role. Ope, I

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Speaker 3: think Torris might might have had a little tech issue there,

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Speaker 3: So I'll continue to talk Minnesota one forty three Oklahoma

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Speaker 3: City one oh one. Again, Minnesota just handled business. They

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Speaker 3: did what they had to do. Anthony Edwards has been

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Speaker 3: okay in this series. I mean, but here in this game,

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Speaker 3: it was more that he was super efficient. He was

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Speaker 3: twelve or seventeen from the field, He was five of

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Speaker 3: eight from three. He still didn't take you thirty shots

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Speaker 3: or anything like that, but he was a plus minus rating.

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Speaker 3: He was a plus thirty six on the floor, and

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Speaker 3: Randall was a plus thirty eight. It was just a

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Speaker 3: kind of night where the home team had no choice

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Speaker 3: but to win, and so they went out and kind

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Speaker 3: of handled their business. The question is are they gonna

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Speaker 3: be able to pull that off in game four? Because

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Speaker 3: I do think that you got the benefit in this

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Speaker 3: game because it got out of reach that quickly. Shay

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Speaker 3: only played twenty eight minutes of this game. Jay with

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Speaker 3: Williams only played twenty five minutes of this game. Chet

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Speaker 3: only played twenty one minutes in this game. Like no

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Speaker 3: starter for Oklahoma City played more than twenty eight minutes

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Speaker 3: are fearful of if you are an opposing team at

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Speaker 3: this point. Like Josh Hart's a nice player, Karl Anthony Towns,

433
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Speaker 3: he's out there. Certainly he can hit a big shot,

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Speaker 3: but he's never been known as a clutch player. Og

435
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Speaker 3: pretty solid player as well, and then there's Michael Bridges,

436
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Speaker 3: who I just don't see that clutchness in him. And

437
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Speaker 3: then you look at it. I mean, Hal Burton's made

438
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Speaker 3: these Sam has made some of these shots. This Spacers

439
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 3: team has been sort of overlooked for two or three

440
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,199
Speaker 3: seasons now, and they kind of made a habit of

441
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Speaker 3: doing things like this, and so they find themselves with

442
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Speaker 3: a two oh lead because in those moments where you're

443
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Speaker 3: made or broken in sports, they seem to be at

444
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Speaker 3: their best and the Knicks have been at their worst.

445
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Speaker 3: They've made some big turnovers, they've had some key misses.

446
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Speaker 3: They've just kind of had some mental lapses here and there.

447
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Speaker 3: They said they took the foot off the gas in

448
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Speaker 3: game one, and you could say that, but the Pacers

449
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 3: just put the pedal to the medal. So maybe it

450
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 3: happened simultaneously that the Knicks opened them up, but at

451
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Speaker 3: the same time it kind of worked in reverse as well.

452
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Speaker 3: So Game three is certainly going to determine the series.

453
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Speaker 3: When you look at Knicks and Pacers, you're looking at

454
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Speaker 3: a Piacers team that understands. And they said this. Siakam

455
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Speaker 3: said this after the game. He said, we know what

456
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Speaker 3: we have to do. We're up too. Oh, we know

457
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Speaker 3: exactly what we have to do. And he does we

458
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Speaker 3: all do. If they go and they win and it's

459
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Speaker 3: three to zero, you can hang this one up. It

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Speaker 3: might be over and four. I don't think the Knicks

461
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Speaker 3: are gonna get swept even if they lose three. I

462
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Speaker 3: do not see a universe where they lose in game four.

463
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Speaker 3: But so far in this series, Indiana has just been

464
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Speaker 3: better in the moments that matter most. Even if the

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Speaker 3: Knicks controlled Game one, it doesn't matter in the end.

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Speaker 3: If you're not able to close if you're not able

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Speaker 3: to finish, And even though I think they have a

468
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Speaker 3: great closer in Brunson, I don't know that that team

469
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Speaker 3: is quite ready yet to show that closing gene that

470
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Speaker 3: they need at this moment. So we'll talk more about that.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about shake Gil, just Alexander and sort

472
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Speaker 3: of the controversy around not him winning MVP, but how

473
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Speaker 3: he plays and how he earns a lot of the

474
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Speaker 3: points that he scores. Some of that discourse this week

475
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Speaker 3: coming from all sides, so we'll talk about that here

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Speaker 3: in just a moment. Let's go to Steve to Saga

477
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Speaker 3: for the first time tonight and find out what's trending

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Speaker 3: in the world of sports.

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Speaker 5: Steve hello there and they were chanting against SGA at

480
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Speaker 5: Minnesota along those lines, So we will get to a

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Speaker 5: great stat from hockey as the Hurricanes lost again tonight

482
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Speaker 5: but will lead with the NBA as Game three of

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Speaker 5: the Western Conference Finals at Minnesota was dominated by the

484
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Speaker 5: Timberwolves over Oklahoma City one forty three to one oh one.

485
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Speaker 5: Anthony Edwards thirty points in thirty minutes. Julius Randall scored

486
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Speaker 5: twenty four the lead late second quarter was seventy two

487
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Speaker 5: to thirty eight. Oklahoma City leads the series two games

488
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Speaker 5: to one in the East. Game three is Sunday night

489
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Speaker 5: at Indiana, with the Pacers leading two games to none

490
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Speaker 5: over New York. New York's w NBA team is three

491
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Speaker 5: and zero after winning at Indiana today ninety to eighty eight.

492
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Speaker 5: Caitlin Clarke in defeat eighteen points, tennisists and ten turnovers.

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Speaker 5: Out of the NHL Playoffs, Florida's up three games to

494
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Speaker 5: none in the East Final after whipping Carolina a strong

495
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Speaker 5: third period six to the final. It was tied one

496
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Speaker 5: to one going to the third. Amazingly, Sports in Canada

497
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Speaker 5: points out that the Hurricanes are actually nearing the longest

498
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Speaker 5: losing streak ever in any single round of a postseason

499
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Speaker 5: over the years. You see, the Carolina team won the

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Speaker 5: Conference finals in two thousand and six, won the Cup

501
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Speaker 5: that year as well. They have not won a Conference

502
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Speaker 5: finals game since. They are zero and fifteen in this

503
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Speaker 5: round since two thousand and six. Wow, and the Hurricanes bench.

504
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Speaker 5: They're starting goalie Frederick Anderson. Before this game, they were

505
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Speaker 5: at least in this game going to the third, but

506
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Speaker 5: then Florida scored five unanswered goals in about ten minutes.

507
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Speaker 5: A reminder, Fox has all the IndyCar races this year.

508
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Speaker 5: That means Fox TV has the Indy five hundred on Sunday.

509
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Speaker 5: On this holiday weekend, there are two late games in

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Speaker 5: Major League Baseball. The Phillies have won eight in a row.

511
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Speaker 5: The Phills are leading the A's in Sacramento three to

512
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Speaker 5: two in the bottom of the fifth inning. The A's

513
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Speaker 5: have lost ten in a row. The Angels have an

514
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Speaker 5: eight game winning streak on the line. In Anaheim, the

515
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Speaker 5: Marlins go to the bottom of the fifth leading the

516
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Speaker 5: Halos three to one. Everything else is final. The game

517
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 5: that was on Fox TV for much of the country

518
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Speaker 5: had the Mets in New York beating the Dodgers five

519
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Speaker 5: to two. Juan Soto a two run double home wins

520
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Speaker 5: for Tampa Bay and the White Sox home wins for

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Speaker 5: Cincinnati and Atlanta, which whipped the Padres seven to one.

522
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Speaker 5: Ronald Acunya with another home run. He homerd not only

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Speaker 5: in his first at bat last night, but on the

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Speaker 5: first pitch he saw after being out a year with

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Speaker 5: a tour in acl Cleveland and ten innings wonted Detroit

526
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Speaker 5: seven to five wins for Washington and Houston. Wins for

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh and the Yankees, who got upset at Colorado last

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Speaker 5: night but beat up the Rockies today thirteen to one.

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Speaker 5: Aaron Judge with his eighteenth homer that leads the majors.

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Speaker 5: Colorado's record is nine and forty three. Saint Louis beat

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Speaker 5: Arizona six to five with two runs bottom of the eighth,

532
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Speaker 5: Minnesota with a run bottom of the ninth, edge Kansas

533
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Speaker 5: City five to four, and Baltimore was able to split

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Speaker 5: a doubleheader at Boston. Red Sox took the the opener

535
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Speaker 5: in ten inning, six to five, but Baltimore took the

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Speaker 5: nightcap two to one.

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Speaker 3: By the way.

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Speaker 5: Boston star infielder Alex Bregman was placed on the injured

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Speaker 5: list with a quote significant quad injury.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, thank you, Steve oh Man want Soto.

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Speaker 3: He had a double that scored some runs. That's good.

542
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Speaker 3: I wonder if he checked that one out like you

543
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Speaker 3: did that single the other day.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's why it was a single. Yes, sorry, you

545
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 5: need to run out of the box. Indeed, matting average

546
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Speaker 5: run is up to two forty one for one.

547
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Speaker 3: So boy, that is a I need to do the

548
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Speaker 3: math to figure out how how many dollars per point

549
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 3: on that batting average that turns out to be if

550
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Speaker 3: he's two forty one making the kind of money that

551
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Speaker 3: he is making.

552
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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay's slow, snarter or not. We're almost to June.

553
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 5: He's still getting paid the full dollars these first two months.

554
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. You're not paid based on your performance.

555
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: Now you're paid in advance. And uh, they're gonna see

556
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 3: what he's gonna be able to do as we move

557
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: a little bit further on into the summer. A guy

558
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Speaker 3: that's gonna get paid and a guy that has already

559
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: won some awards. His team's up to one in the

560
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 3: Western Conference Finals right now, that's the Oklahoma City Thunder

561
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: Shake Gilgess Alexander wins his first MVP that announced earlier

562
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Speaker 3: this week. And the interesting thing surrounding this is this

563
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 3: discourse about Shake Gilges Alexander being incredibly hard to root

564
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Speaker 3: for because he is a foul merchant. A free throw merchant,

565
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Speaker 3: I think, is what Doris Burk said on the air.

566
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 3: Whatever that means, but obviously yes, he foul baits like

567
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Speaker 3: most of the NBA. I guess now listen, I am

568
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Speaker 3: a Thunder fan. Most people know that now, so that notwithstanding, Yeah,

569
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Speaker 3: there are some moments where I wish they didn't blow

570
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Speaker 3: the whistle. When he throws the ball up when it's

571
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Speaker 3: clearly like he's leaning in and he that's no interest

572
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: in actually making the shot. But he's only doing what

573
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Speaker 3: a bunch of other people are doing. And I'm not

574
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Speaker 3: even trying to play what about ishm here, I'm saying

575
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: until that, I don't know how you fix that rule.

576
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure how you adjudicate that or find

577
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: a way to balance it out. But until it changes,

578
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: why would you not do it? Like? You can call

579
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: it whatever you want, but right now you can call

580
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: it number one seed in sixty eight wins if you're

581
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: the Oklahoma City Thunder and the MVP in the league.

582
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: And he did this last year too, But this is

583
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: not the first guy in the history of basketball to

584
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 3: do this. That was an all time great like Paul

585
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: Pierce used to drive me insane doing this. We all

586
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: know James Harden made a living doing this for years

587
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 3: and years, especially in Houston. Lebron James does this and

588
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: has done it throughout much of his career. And I

589
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: could name guy after guy after guy. Kobe was knocked

590
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: with this at different times in his career. I do

591
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: think that, like when you get to older guys who

592
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: shot a lot of free throws per game, like you

593
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: would have Michael Jordan's shot more free throws on average

594
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: per game than Shake Guild Just Alexander has. But Jordan

595
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 3: was getting hacked by the Pistons and he was legitimately

596
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: being fouled on most all these plays. And then when

597
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Speaker 3: you look at it now, some of those you can

598
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: look at and kind of side eye and question. But

599
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: the rules are set up in a way where if

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Speaker 3: you're favoring the offense or whatever, I don't know what

601
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Speaker 3: are you supposed to do. I don't know how you're

602
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: supposed to fix it. And then defensively, I'm not sure

603
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Speaker 3: what you're supposed to do about it either. It makes

604
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: Shake Guild Just Alexander almost unguardable because you're gonna give

605
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: up points one or two different ways, whether it's at

606
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: the free throw line or the shot being made or both.

607
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Speaker 3: But what do you I don't how do you fix

608
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: the rule. You can't go replay everyone and then determine

609
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Speaker 3: whether or not it's baiting. This is not the same

610
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Speaker 3: thing as flopping. Flopping is much more obvious and easy

611
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Speaker 3: to see. Here. If it's a foul, what do you

612
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 3: do do you change it and say it's a foul

613
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: on him? You can't find him after the fact. You

614
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: can't change anything else. And again, it's so prevalent in

615
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: the NBA now, especially kind of the less physical nature

616
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: of this NBA and the way that it's all geared

617
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: towards offense, that all it does now is winning the MVP.

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Speaker 3: And you look at this guy, and when he was

619
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Speaker 3: coming out of Kentucky, like you knew he was going

620
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Speaker 3: to be good. I don't think anybody thought he was

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Speaker 3: gonna be this good. I don't because I don't think

622
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: he would ever been traded to Oklahoma City the way

623
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Speaker 3: that he was in that Paul George deal that sent

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Speaker 3: Paul George to the Clippers. I mean, imagine the Clippers

625
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: now watching Shake Gill, just Alexander and wondering, man, maybe

626
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: we got that one wrong. But he goes to a

627
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: team with a great executive in Sam Presty, that has

628
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: drafted well. They had some lean years, but then now

629
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, everybody there and now the question

630
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 3: is being asked, is this better than the team that

631
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 3: went to the NBA Finals that has three guaranteed Hall

632
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: of Famers on it in Durant, Russell Westbrook and James Harden,

633
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: And then of course you had Serge Ibaka, and I

634
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: mean that team's loaded. They really were. That's Scott Brooks

635
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: team that lost to the Heatles. This team as a unit,

636
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: I think is better because they don't just stand around

637
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: watching one guy do all the work or two guys

638
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: do all the work. Everybody gets involved and they are

639
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: a much better defensive basketball team I think than that

640
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: team was back twenty twelve, right around that era. As

641
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: good as that team was, as much fun as I

642
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: had watching my guys win at that point in time.

643
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: But now, Shake Gilliges, Alexander is your MVP of the league,

644
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: and Game four, he's gonna have the opportunity to show

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Speaker 3: why he won that award on the road against Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll finish up the first hour

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Speaker 3: of the show. One more take on the NBA and

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Speaker 3: things that are happening here in the playoffs. I've not

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Speaker 3: talked about the UH, the other NBA, the w NBA

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Speaker 3: Trust me, it's coming an hour or two. You don't

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Speaker 3: want to go anywhere, Stick around. I'm Jason Martin, eron

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Speaker 3: Torres with me here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio erin Torres, Jason Martin,

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. J Martin,

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Speaker 2: I actually got to hear I was scrambling. I am

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Speaker 2: remote today. I want bore people with too many details.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully there's no further issues. But was scrambling to put

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Speaker 2: together the internet during what I guess would have been

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Speaker 2: the end of the first segment, and then of course

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Speaker 2: that that segment at about eleven twenty Eastern time.

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Speaker 3: I got to listen to your shade takes. So you know, one, I.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you holding down the fort two knock on what

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Speaker 2: we have no issues. But three you said that you

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Speaker 2: had a take that you are ready to get off

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Speaker 2: your chest about the other series. So I I I

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Speaker 2: guess while I was gone, you have not talked Pacers,

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Speaker 2: NIX and IT.

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Speaker 3: I talked to it. No, I talked a bit of it.

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Speaker 3: You were tuning in and out because you were working

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Speaker 3: on getting everything going. It wasn't a bold tag. It

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00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: was just that I mean, this Pacers team needs to

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Speaker 3: be talked about more because they didn't come from nowhere,

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Speaker 3: like they were right there with the Knicks last year

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Speaker 3: in a classic series and you're seeing it again, and

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Speaker 3: this is a team that this series is being made

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Speaker 3: or broken. Like the thing that's really hurtful if you're

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Speaker 3: a Knicks fan is the amount of effort they've had

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Speaker 3: to expend to lose two games in this series at home.

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Speaker 3: They had to go to overtime and lost. But the

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Speaker 3: thing that I was kind of baffled by, and you

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Speaker 3: tell me if I'm wrong on this, but like the

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Speaker 3: discourse about Game one and the collapse and everything else,

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Speaker 3: and obviously the three points shooting down the stretch for

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Speaker 3: the Pacers, who were just an incredible clutch team, but

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Speaker 3: the bounce that Haliburton got on the shot, like everybody's

686
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Speaker 3: worried about, oh, he's got a foot on the line,

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Speaker 3: kind of like Duran did against the Bucks. Dude, I couldn't.

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Speaker 3: I can't tell you a bounce that was more for

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Speaker 3: tuitous than that, Like it's been so high in the

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Speaker 3: air the entire crowd thought he missed it and then

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Speaker 3: it drops straight through perfectly like crazy. After even with that,

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Speaker 3: even with the near collapse and everything else, the Knicks

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Speaker 3: still win the game if that thing doesn't drop in.

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Speaker 3: And so this whole, this whole thing is completely different.

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Speaker 3: Like that is one of the luckiest like just ricochet

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Speaker 3: bounces I have ever seen. I compared it to Kawhi

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Speaker 3: against the Sixers years ago, but this one was even

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Speaker 3: more improbable because of the height the ball got off

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Speaker 3: the back of the iron. It was crazy.

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Speaker 2: I let me ask you a question because I was

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Speaker 2: thinking about this today with the Knicks. So the Knicks

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Speaker 2: are obviously a great story. I think if you don't

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Speaker 2: have a rooting interest one of those three teams, they're

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Speaker 2: easy to wrap their arms around. My question is, and

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Speaker 2: I think I might be guilty of this. I want

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Speaker 2: to give you the floor. Isn't it all possible that

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Speaker 2: we kind of overrated them coming into the series?

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Speaker 3: And let me let me give you the case.

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Speaker 2: So the Piston series, they win Game one, in which

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Speaker 2: I believe what was the stat twenty four nothing run

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Speaker 2: or something like that was some kind of crazy run.

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Speaker 2: They win the preceding three games by two points, one point,

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Speaker 2: and three points.

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Speaker 3: Now they're their credit.

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Speaker 2: They closed out some wins There was obviously the controversial

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Speaker 2: Josh Hart no call, but three of the four wins

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Speaker 2: were by three points or less against the uh against

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Speaker 2: the Pistons, and then of course Game one Game two

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Speaker 2: against Boston prior to the Tatum injury, they had to

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Speaker 2: overcome twenty plus point deficits. So like I and this

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Speaker 2: sounds like, oh, this is just Torrez finding another way

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Speaker 2: to discredit the Pacers.

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Speaker 3: It's not what I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm just sitting there saying, like, like, when something surprising happens,

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Speaker 2: and I do think the Knicks being down two is

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Speaker 2: at least a little bit surprising because they're at home,

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Speaker 2: Like I think you try to put together the pieces

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Speaker 2: of why is it? Why could this have happened? And

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Speaker 2: should we have seen it coming? And I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of it is the Pacers are just flat out

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Speaker 2: maybe just better than they've been given credit for this whole.

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Speaker 3: Time, like you just said.

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Speaker 2: But I am wondering if the Knicks, maybe you know,

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Speaker 2: the story was a little bit better than the actual

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Speaker 2: totality of the Mormans twenty factor in a couple big comebacks,

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Speaker 2: a couple close, one controversial win, and then of course

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Speaker 2: a Celtics series that kind of took a swing permanently

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Speaker 2: in their favor on the Tatum entry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think you're right. I think a

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Speaker 3: lot of it goes back to last year and this

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Speaker 3: story kind of developing there, and then what happened in

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Speaker 3: the offseason with the trade and the moves that were made,

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Speaker 3: and then you get into it and yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: you can overrate it really easy, and the Knicks are

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Speaker 3: going to You're going to air I think in that

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Speaker 3: direction with some of these bigger market teams. The one

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Speaker 3: thing I read this piece of the Idle like from

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Speaker 3: their Knicks beat writer after Game two, and it basically said,

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Speaker 3: if you floid through this postseason, the biggest problem for

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Speaker 3: the Knicks has been their starting five has been very seamless. That, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they have not played well together, and they've been better

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Speaker 3: when they put in a guy like Mitchell Robinson or

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Speaker 3: somebody else that gives them something different on the floor

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Speaker 3: and wants to do some of the dirty work. And

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Speaker 3: I did suggest when you were out here just a

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Speaker 3: little while ago that I think there's a universe where

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Speaker 3: Thibodeau is going to continue to not play Karl Anthony

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Speaker 3: Town quite as often because if he is off with

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Speaker 3: his shot, all of a sudden, he can become a

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Speaker 3: liability because he's not a dude that puts forth a

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Speaker 3: ton of effort defensively. He's not a guy that spreads

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Speaker 3: the floor for you on that side. And so maybe

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Speaker 3: you have him captain your second unit and have Brunson

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Speaker 3: out there with with a Mitchell Robinson or one of

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Speaker 3: those kind of guys to give you a little bit

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Speaker 3: of different balance and.

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Speaker 2: A different look. That's really interesting. So here's the stat

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Speaker 2: that I saw today. This is from Nix Muse on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: The Knixt starting lineup has now played three hundred and

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Speaker 2: eight minutes together this postseason. They have a net rating

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Speaker 2: of minus ten point six to two. For context, the

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Speaker 2: worst team in the NBA, the Utah Jazz, had a

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Speaker 2: net rating of minus nine.

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Speaker 3: Point three this season.

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Speaker 2: So basically, the Knixt starting five on the court together

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Speaker 2: is worse than the worst team in the NBA this season,

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Speaker 2: the Utah Jazz.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not good and you got to shake it up.

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Speaker 3: And if you're Thibideau, I think now's the time, right

780
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 3: like your season is on the line. You don't have

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Speaker 3: the opportunity, you don't have the luxury not to win this.

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Speaker 3: You're not coming back from O two after losing the

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Speaker 3: first two at home. It's hard enough. But if you

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Speaker 3: go down O three and you're still on the road,

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Speaker 3: you may not even get back home. You may actually

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Speaker 3: get swept in that situation. So I could see Thibodeau

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Speaker 3: kind of playing around with this. I think that's what

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Speaker 3: a good coach needs to do. Adjustments clearly need to

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Speaker 3: be made here, just beas.

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Speaker 2: Needs to be made. The Knicks down oh two. Of course,

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Speaker 2: game three on Sunday night in Indianapolis. Course, busy day

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Speaker 2: and Indy they got the Indy five hundred before Game three.

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss Game three later out of the show. But

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Speaker 2: we got to get to the other basketball league of note,

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Speaker 2: the WNBA.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, what a week we're discussing it all. Next.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Hope everybody is enjoying their Memorial Day weekend. If you're

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Speaker 2: you entertained by the way, Jamon, I always like to

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Speaker 2: do this for the audience that's on Twitter. Go ahead

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Speaker 2: tweet us at Aaron Underscore Tours at Jmart Radio. Always

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Speaker 2: that maybe they don't enjoy as much as we enjoy ours.

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Speaker 2: So you know, we're always privileged to be on these

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Speaker 2: airwaves on a holiday weekend.

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Speaker 3: We know a lot of you are doing.

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Speaker 2: All sorts of crazy things, and so make sure to

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Speaker 3: at work? Are you with family?

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Speaker 2: Let us know, but we are taking it till two

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Speaker 2: am Eastern here on a now Sunday on the.

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Speaker 3: East Coast Memorial Day.

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Speaker 2: Weekend, Jamar, before we get into like a actually a

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Speaker 2: pretty dark conversation about WNBA, you got any fun plans

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Speaker 2: for the holiday weekend? I know you said you were

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Speaker 2: watching some racing today, obviously the Indianapolis five hundred. Are

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Speaker 2: you having any family over you doing any barbecuing anything

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean I grilled a week ago. I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we have anything major plan. The wife

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Speaker 3: we'll have some time as a family, which is gonna

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Speaker 3: be good. I preached in the morning, so obviously it's

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Speaker 3: been an early morning for me. But then, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything too massive. I saw Mission

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Speaker 3: Impossible last night. That might wasn't the one thing I

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Speaker 3: would have done. It was what you were thinking it

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Speaker 3: would be. I mean, it felt like the finalite of

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Speaker 3: the series is definitely kind of paid off a lot

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Speaker 3: of things and called back stuff all the way to

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Speaker 3: ninety six and stuff like that. It's a franchise that

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Speaker 3: I've adored and I've covered for many years and written

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Speaker 3: about in the past. I think that it peaked at six.

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Speaker 3: I think that Fallout was the best, and then you

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Speaker 3: can probably go with Ghost Protocol and Rogue Nation four

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Speaker 3: and five and whatever order you want. There are probably

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Speaker 3: the top three. These last two, which were two part

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Speaker 3: I think they were pretty good. That the finish, I

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Speaker 3: think they tried to pull off an awful lot and

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Speaker 3: it is long it's just barely under three hours long. Wow,

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Speaker 3: and it is just loaded up and there's just a

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Speaker 3: it can kind of it gets a little convoluted and

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00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 3: a little ridiculous at points. I still enjoyed my time

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Speaker 3: with it, and I think that, you know, overall, it's

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00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: been a it's been an awesome series for such a

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Speaker 3: long time, as long as you can shut your brain down.

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Speaker 3: But there's there's some weaknesses to it. Not as big

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Speaker 3: a fan of the villain being Ai over the last

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Speaker 3: two films and things like that. But look, man, Tom Cruise,

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Speaker 3: and Tom Cruise is finally starting to look old. Like

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that he looks his age, but he's

862
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: finally starting to look like, Okay, yeah he's older. And

863
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: they show shots. They showed a lot of flashbacks without

864
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: any kind of spoilers. They showed a lot of flashbacks

865
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 3: to like earlier films in the series, which is why

866
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 3: it really does feel like they're finishing it up, and

867
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: like they show stuff from the first mission Impossible, and

868
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: you realize it's like, oh, yeah, this dude looked way different,

869
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 3: like he definitely has age. It's harder to see unless

870
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: you kind of see it. Back to back, but this

871
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 3: is the first time, like you look in the face

872
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh yeah, definitely money has been put

873
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: into this, into this face. And at the same time,

874
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: like eventually Father Tom is coming for us. All yeah,

875
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: Mission Impossible.

876
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: The original debuting May twenty second, nineteen ninety six. This

877
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: one coming out May twenty third, twenty twenty five. So

878
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: not great at math. That sounds about twenty nine years

879
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: in a day.

880
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 3: Apark Yep, all right, jmart I hope you had a go. Yeah.

881
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I hope you had a good

882
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: viewing experience at the movies yesterday, because something that just

883
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: is not a fun experience, I think at this point,

884
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a fun experience for anybody, whether

885
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 2: you love it, whether you hate it, whether you whatever.

886
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 3: That's the WNBA.

887
00:43:54,960 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: It was funny because we were actually ahead of just

888
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 2: the take avalanche that happened this week. If if people

889
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 2: go back and listen to the podcast last week, we

890
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: were obviously coming on last Saturday, the day of the

891
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 2: season debut. Caitlyn Clark, Caitlyn Clark, Angel Reeves, Chicago Sky,

892
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: Indiana Fever and there was a flagrant.

893
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 3: Foul at one point in the game.

894
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: And I asked you, I said, j mart I said, listen,

895
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: I don't have the energy to make this into something.

896
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: It feels like absolutely nothing to me. Well, fast forward,

897
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: and by the way, we also referenced like, but I

898
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: guarantee all the big talk shows come Monday, they're gonna

899
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: have plenty.

900
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: There.

901
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: We didn't say not that they're gonna have plenty, to

902
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: say that they're going to make this into something that

903
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 2: it isn't.

904
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: Well, fast forward.

905
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: We had let's see here, we had obviously, you know,

906
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 2: all sorts of let's just be honest, you know, racial

907
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: undertones about Kitlyn Clark and Angel Reese. We had the

908
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 2: RG three versus Ryan Clark thing, which dragged on. We

909
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 2: also had this, you know, don't let this get lost

910
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: in the shuffle. We had a report of racist taunts

911
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 2: in the Indiana Fever arena that the Chicago Sky later

912
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: confirmed they never heard. The WNBA still decided to release

913
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: a statement condoning racism, even though no one on the

914
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: Chicago Sky heard anything to do with racism in the arena.

915
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 2: So basically, there was a rumor on the internet that

916
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: the WNBA with ran as fact.

917
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: I could go on and on by the way, and then.

918
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: After that, you know, there's the whole oh you know,

919
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: you guys are manufacturing this, and then Angel Reese, of

920
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: course she's sharing TikTok clips.

921
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: Saying, you know, go get Caitlin Clark.

922
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: It was I think the worst version of WNBA coverage.

923
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: I'll just say it, and I don't I don't want

924
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: to take away from your take. I just think the

925
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: league is just a flat out embarrassment. They I'll just

926
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,959
Speaker 2: shut up. I'm talking too much. I think the league

927
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: is nothing short of a flat out embarrassment. And I'll

928
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 2: let you kind of take this wherever you'd like.

929
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: So there's a lot to get to and luckily we

930
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 3: have plenty of time. Nothing that you just said is wrong.

931
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: It's not a league, it's Jerry Springer. It's not a leege.

932
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 2: But at least Jerry Springer knew it was staged like

933
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: this is just it's Jerry's Springer without the irony.

934
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Yes, I mean that that

935
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 3: is true. I mean I knew some people that were

936
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 3: booked on jerry Spro back in my pro wrestling days. Well, no,

937
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: I mean, like pro wrestling, pro wrestlers are booked for

938
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 3: reality TV all the time because they know how to

939
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: fake it. And when you you know Springer a lot

940
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 3: of stuff like yes, some of the things that he

941
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 3: would do, he would pay guys to come in and

942
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 3: or pay people to come in and just air out

943
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: the most disgusting stuff that was actually happening, but some

944
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 3: of the time it wasn't legit, and like, I think that,

945
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: so I tried to defend in the week. I tried

946
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 3: to defend the idea that the WNBA was not stoking

947
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: a racial conflict but was instead profiting off of one

948
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 3: or just kind of staying hands off a little bit

949
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 3: with one that already existed. And I was trying to

950
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: act like, look, it really isn't a racial thing, where

951
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: like Angel Reese and Caitlyn Clark, remember last year I

952
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: talked about how Angel Reese was drifting off of Kaitlyn

953
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: Clark like they were race cars. No doubt that Angel

954
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 3: Reese knew what she was doing and that she was

955
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 3: actually savvier, and that the pro wrestler, like Gene and

956
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 3: me said, they probably they're working off each other because

957
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: they're both kind of generating stuff. And Angel Reese's name

958
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: is a lot bigger now because of what she did

959
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: and all this other stuff. But as more time has passed,

960
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 3: and as you go back and you watch this and

961
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 3: even dating back to like pointing at her, ring at

962
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 3: her fingers back in the Iowa LSU days and all

963
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 3: of these things. No, actually, there's more. There's more than

964
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: just a little bit going on here, and the league

965
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: is more at fault than I wanted to admit. Like

966
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: I just wanted to think that they were just kind

967
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 3: of going to let this play out, but that they

968
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 3: weren't like booking this thing almost like you're booking a

969
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 3: wrestling territory so that you can make the most money.

970
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: But so because the most marketable matchup that you can

971
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 3: have in the WNBA in history of women's basketball is

972
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 3: going to be Caitlin Clark versus Angel Rees, so that

973
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: becomes your day one game and all this. And the

974
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 3: argument was, well, you did that to stoke racial conflict,

975
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 3: and I said, no, you did it because there are

976
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 3: arch rivals and all this other stuff, the race thing notwithstanding,

977
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: it's just the vitriol between these two. But here's the problem,

978
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 3: and this is what I think has been revealed during

979
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 3: the course of this week. More so than ever before.

980
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 3: There is a racial conflict here, and it is Angel

981
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: Reese who has some serious She's got some serious issues

982
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 3: when it comes to this and the way that she

983
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: feels about Caitlin Clark that are not related just to basketball,

984
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: not just related to jealousy and envy, all of those

985
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 3: things are they're basically like kindling on this fire that

986
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 3: because this other thing is true of Caitlyn Clark, all

987
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 3: the rest of it becomes worse. And I think that

988
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: the biggest thing that we have seen this week is

989
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: that there are a whole lot of other people that

990
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 3: feel similarly to Angel Reese, both in the media and

991
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 3: in the WNBA itself, and that's just a shame. Like

992
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 3: that's when this has jumped the shark from being a

993
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: pretty good rivalry that you can do something with if

994
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 3: you're the WNBA, to something that if you have any

995
00:49:55,120 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 3: dignity or self respect whatsoever, if you're the WNBA, shut

996
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: this down because you don't want to exist solely for this.

997
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: And now if you stay silent and you continue to

998
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: let this kind of thing go on, and you let

999
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 3: other things that we can talk about with Grinder and

1000
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 3: Cheryl Swoops and all this other kind of stuff that's

1001
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: come through continue, then not only are you aiding in

1002
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 3: a betting, but you're in effect facilitating. You're in effect

1003
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 3: making sure that this is a thing. And I will

1004
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: call a little bit later, but I'll just do it

1005
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: right now. I'm done. Like I did not think that

1006
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 3: this whole deal was gonna last anyway. They had lightning

1007
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 3: in a bottle with Caitlin Clark, but what else are

1008
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: you gonna get? I was excited to see what Page

1009
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 3: Beckers could do because I enjoyed watching her at Connecticut

1010
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 3: as well, and you know, Juju Watkins in the future

1011
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 3: hopefully coming back from the injury and things like that,

1012
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 3: Like you have some other players in this league. But

1013
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 3: the WNBA decided that if it was gonna be Caitlin

1014
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 3: Clark that made them all stars and made them all money,

1015
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: they were just not gonna allow that. They have made

1016
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: this so toxic, so gross, that I'm gonna go back

1017
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: to doing what I've done my entire life up until

1018
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark started playing basketball, not giving a crap about

1019
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 3: the WNBA. I am boycotting this league. I'm not watching

1020
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 3: her either. Like, if they want to sell this, they

1021
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: could sell it to somebody else. The racial grift has

1022
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 3: to stop in this country, and it definitely has to

1023
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 3: stop in sports and the WNBA. I didn't need it before,

1024
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 3: I don't need it now. Caitlin Clark's already made some

1025
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: money and she's still gonna be marketable whether or not

1026
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 3: she's playing in the WNBA or somewhere else. So I'll

1027
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: quietly follow a box score if I care, but you

1028
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 3: will not catch me tune in to a WNBA game again,

1029
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: because that's what they begged me to do. They have

1030
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 3: asked me, Aaron, repeatedly, don't watch our league because of X,

1031
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 3: Y and Z. They we have stuck it in our

1032
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: face so many times at this point that they're gonna

1033
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 3: get what they wanted, which is the game's not that

1034
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: good anyway. I don't need to watch this. I'm not

1035
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 3: gonna watch this.

1036
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of the game not being very good,

1037
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 2: I'm in Vegas this weekend just with some family. I

1038
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: was in a sportsbook this afternoon. There was nothing else

1039
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: on other than Fever and Liberty. It was a tough watch,

1040
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: and you know, it really is, and it's like, you know,

1041
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: and this is supposed to be the defending ship whatever.

1042
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: A lot to peel back from what you said.

1043
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 2: I think my biggest takeaway is something that I know

1044
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: that I talked about last year, and it's something that

1045
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 2: you just hit on.

1046
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 3: Is that, listen, the racial stuff is gross.

1047
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: I think that essentially it is amazing to me and

1048
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: maybe it's something we get. We discussed on the other

1049
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: side of the break, how they essentially cannot market anything

1050
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: when there is not you know, there's not a racial

1051
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 2: component to it. Like, it's funny you mentioned Page Beckers,

1052
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 2: obviously me being a Yukon guy. My mom's a Yukon

1053
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: of l She literally asked me today, She's like, how

1054
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: come I feel like I haven't heard anything about Page

1055
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: since she got into the league. And I was like,

1056
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: there is no story when somebody isn't trying to fight

1057
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 2: katele Clark.

1058
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 3: It's just a fact.

1059
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 2: And the thing that stands out to me is exactly

1060
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 2: what you said, and I remember saying it last year.

1061
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: Is that to me, if players want to hate her,

1062
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: it sucks, but it is what it is. The embarrassing

1063
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: thing to me is the WNBA's leadership and their inability

1064
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 2: to to wrangle this, to get it under control or

1065
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: even to acknowledge it's a problem. And I remember saying

1066
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: this last year is players want to hate her.

1067
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't like it. I think it's ridiculous.

1068
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: I don't think it makes sense that this is a

1069
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: situation where, you know, where she's obviously making them all

1070
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: money and they want to complain. But the league does

1071
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: have like a responsibility to protect her, and it didn't

1072
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: feel like they were doing it last year. And I

1073
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: only bring it up to solely say that when you

1074
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: look at this year, when you look at this moment

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00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 2: in time, it is wild to me that they had

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00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: an all like if it even the most glasses half

1077
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: full want to defend the WNBA would say, well, you know,

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00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Clark came in right out of Iowa, nobody could

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00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: have seen how big it was. Blah blah blah, this

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00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: and that, and so fast forward to this year and

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00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: the idea that they dealt with this for a year.

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00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: The the entire last year was basically just the worst

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00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: form of toxicity. And there was you know, there were

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00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: positives because of TV ratings increases, but there was a

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00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: lot of negativity to and they had a whole offseason

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00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: to figure out how to put their arms around this,

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00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 2: how to embrace Kaitlyn Clark what she's done and just

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00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: deal with the discourse that comes around it. And literally

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00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 2: in one week, it just complete one week, forget one week.

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00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: One game completely went off the rails to the point that,

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00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: you know, we had the situation that we had in

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00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: the game, but then again all the stuff that follows it.

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00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: I understand, you can't control what the media is saying,

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00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: but what you can control is not sprinting to condone

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00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 2: a racist activity that no one can confirm even happened.

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00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 2: And then the counterpoint to that is, oh, by the way,

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00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: there were probably two or three racist things that did

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00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: happen that you've chosen to ignore, and you mentioned it.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's Britain.

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00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: There's video of Britney Griner where pretty clear, you know,

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00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 2: people are trying to now say that she didn't say

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00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: what she what what we think she said, but basically

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00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 2: there is an insinuation of f that whight be.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: You know, by the way, Brittany Grinder was caught on

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00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: camera f cursing out the refs today and during a

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00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 2: sideline interview. So that was a lovely addendum to that.

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00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 2: So you know, I guess I've gone along again. I'll

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00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 2: toss it back to you. But it is amazing to

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00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: me that with a full off season to kind of

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00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 2: wrap your arms around it, see how big things had gotten.

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00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: We're back to the same playbook that led to so

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00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: much toxicity last year, where again you're condoning or you're

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00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 2: you're shouting down actions that we cannot confirm happened, while

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00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 2: completely ignoring other actions that we do know did happen.

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00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 3: Yep, that's exactly right. Let's take a break, though, because

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00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 3: just because I looked at the clock, but we'll come back.

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00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 3: We've got plenty more on this topic. I also think

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00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 3: that we need to call out Adam Silver. Sure if

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Speaker 3: the WNBA only exists because the NBA permits it to,

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00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 3: then Adam Silver needs to show us spine for the

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00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 3: first time in his life and actually say, hey, this

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00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 3: needs to stop, like behind closed doors, say we're not

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00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 3: going to be known for this, Like we're going to

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Speaker 3: be known for the product. We're not going to be

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00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 3: known for this side show. We're not going to be

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00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 3: known for the tabloid. We're not going to be the

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Speaker 3: National inquir We're not going to be this we're going

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00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 3: to be better than this, or we're not going to

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00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 3: exist at all. If they exist solely because the NBA

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00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 3: permits it, then Adam Silver should have some kind of power.

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00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: If the WNBA brass wants to sit on their hands,

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00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 3: then Adam Silver needs to show a spine. And I know,

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00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 3: you know, he has that look of kind of an extraterrestrial.

1135
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 3: Maybe he doesn't have the same kind of vertebra that

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00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 3: other humans do. And based on some of the things

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00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 3: that he's done in this last handful of years, I

1138
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 3: wouldn't put it past him to not have a spine.

1139
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 3: But somebody needs to show up behind closed doors and

1140
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 3: say this ain't okay. This is going to end badly.

1141
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 3: Like that game that comes up on what is it,

1142
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 3: June seventh or whatever the next time that the Sky

1143
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 3: play the Fever, another game I'm not gonna watch. I'm

1144
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 3: gonna stick to exactly what I said earlier in this segment.

1145
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 3: You think something's not gonna happen, you're out of your mind.

1146
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 3: You got Angel Reese like on the sidelines clapping after

1147
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark is getting fouled multiple times last season. In

1148
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 3: this season, like this is going to get worse, and

1149
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 3: something really bad is going to happen here, and it's

1150
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 3: being stoked by everybody. Seemingly somebody needs to look out

1151
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: for the betterment of the league, at least show that

1152
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 3: there's some kind of respect still to be had in sports.

1153
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 3: We'll take a break, we'll come back. There's a lot

1154
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 3: to get to here. Surprisingly enough, this has been the

1155
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 3: story of the week in the middle of the NBA playoffs.

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00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: Well, it is the story of the week in the

1157
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: middle of the NBA playoffs, and it sounds like there

1158
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: is a lot of meat on the bone Adam Silver.

1159
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: What responsibility does he have? We'll discuss next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,600
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00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 4: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

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Speaker 4: listen live.

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00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio.

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00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 2: Eric Toris Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

1166
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 2: Radio studios. Hope everybody's having a great Memorial Day weekend.

1167
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: We did ask where are you listening? How are you listening?

1168
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: It's a holiday weekend for us, but we know it's

1169
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: a holiday weekend for a lot of people that don't

1170
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 2: get the time off. You can tweet us at Aaron

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00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: Underscore Tours at Jmartradio. Douglas Coleburn says, out here in

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00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: southern Vermont throwing Sunday New York Times, listening to Fox

1173
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: Sports Radio on XM Radio.

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Speaker 3: Love the show.

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00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: So Douglas is out delivering newspapers. We appreciate you, Douglas.

1176
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 2: Harry James Taylor says, listening as I tune in from

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00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: an epic Saturday watching Oklahoma softball as we sweat Bama,

1178
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: and then he went on to talk about the thunder game,

1179
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: which we probably won't be talking about very much the

1180
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: rest of the show. So Fox Sports Radio and our

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00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: tours Jason Mart, if you want to tell us where

1182
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 2: you are Aaron Underscore Tours on Twitter at Jmart Radio.

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00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: Should mention, by the way, you can now stream the

1184
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: show and all of our Fox Sports shows live twenty

1185
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: four to seven Sports in the new and improved iHeartRadio app.

1186
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: You can always stream it, but it's new and improved.

1187
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: Check it out. Also, all you gotta do is search

1188
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio in the app to stream us. And

1189
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 2: the coolest new feature that's going right now is that

1190
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: you can select Fox Sports Radio as one of your presets,

1191
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: just like the presets on a radio dial. So be

1192
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: sure to preset Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app

1193
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 2: and it will always pop up at the top of

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00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: your screen. We'll continue the conversation on the WNBA.

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00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 3: What a disaster.

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00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 2: We'll do that in just a moment, but let's first

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00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: toss it over the news desk Steve the Seger, What

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00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 2: is trending here.

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Speaker 3: At twelve twenty eight Eastern time?

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Speaker 5: Get to the two late ballgames. But you just mentioned

1201
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 5: with the listener mentions one Vermont to Oklahoma softball, which

1202
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 5: brings us to the Sunday Night Show in this time

1203
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 5: slot where we will have Arnee Spanier and Chris Plank

1204
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 5: because you see Oklahoma's not playing tomorrow. They have advanced

1205
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 5: to the College World Series for the ninth straight time,

1206
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 5: Texas and Oregon each advance. UCLA somehow stayed alive, scoring

1207
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 5: four runs in the bottom of the seventh today, including

1208
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 5: a walk off homer at South Carolina. And you mentioned

1209
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 5: the WNBA. There are only two games today, New York

1210
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 5: three and oh after winning it Indiana ninety to eighty eight,

1211
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 5: Caitlin Clark in the loss eighteen points ten assists and

1212
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Speaker 5: ten turnovers from three point range. She was two of eleven.

1213
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 5: Dallas iszho to four after losing eighty three seventy five

1214
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 5: to Atlanta. Now to the two late ballgames, the Phillies

1215
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 5: have won eight in a row. They are tied five

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01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 5: to five at the A's in the top of the

1217
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 5: eighth inning. In the seventh, Bryce Harper even the game

1218
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 5: with an RBI single. Phillies only had five hits, but

1219
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 5: they do have five runs and the Angels have an

1220
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 5: eight game winning streak on the line. They're trailing at

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01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 5: home six' one to the Marlins in the bottom of

1222
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 5: the seventh inning. Yankees won thirteen to one at Colorado

1223
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 5: Aaron Judge's eighteenth homer. By the way, Kyle Schwarber the Phills,

1224
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 5: hit his eighteenth. Tonight, Mets beat the Dodgers five to two.

1225
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 5: Baltimore and Boston split a doubleheader in the NBA's Western

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01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 5: Conference Finals, Game three at Minnesota to the Timberwolves all

1227
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Speaker 5: over Oklahoma City one forty three to one oh one.

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01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 5: And this is a thunder team that regular season went

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01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 5: sixty eight and fourteen. They were down twenty after the

1230
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 5: first quarter tonight. In fact, the Minnesota lead late second

1231
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 5: quarter with seventy two to thirty eight. Anthony Edwards finished

1232
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 5: with thirty points in thirty minutes. Julius Randall twenty four points.

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01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 5: Oklahoma City leads this series two games to one. We

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01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 5: had NHL Game three in the East Final. Florida has

1235
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Speaker 5: won all three Panthers over Carolina tonight six to two,

1236
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 5: and the Hurricanes at bench their starting goalie Frederick Anderson

1237
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 5: before the game. The contest was tied one to one

1238
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 5: going to the third, and then Florida scored five unanswered

1239
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 5: goals in about ten minutes. As we mentioned earlier in

1240
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 5: the show, Carolina's franchise in the conference final round over

1241
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 5: the last nearly twenty years is zero to fifteen. A reminder,

1242
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 5: Fox TV will have the Indy five hundred on Sunday.

1243
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 5: Fox has all the IndyCar races this year, including the

1244
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 5: one on the Streets of Detroit the next weekend after

1245
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 5: the five hundred. Robert Schwartzman earned the poll for tomorrow,

1246
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 5: the first Indy five hundred rookie since nineteen eighty three

1247
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 5: to win the poll. He is from Israel. Novak Djokovic

1248
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 5: won his one hundredth career tournament title that Geneva opened.

1249
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 5: Tennis's French Open starts Sunday. Carlos Alcarez took the Italian Open,

1250
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 5: tune up last week and sweeping the number one player

1251
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 5: Yanick Center of Italy, beating him four straight times now

1252
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 5: over the last year.

1253
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Speaker 3: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve de Seger.

1254
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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday into Sunday

1255
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: ERATORUS Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1256
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Speaker 3: We told you tweet in.

1257
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 2: Let us know where you're listening, how you're listening here

1258
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: on a holiday weekend. Try to make it make sense

1259
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 2: already tweets great takest on the dumpster fire. That is

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01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 2: the W the NBA, but I assume that he means

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Speaker 2: w NBA. He said from mid coast Maine. Maine is

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01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 2: beautiful this time of year. I'll say that, sona, We're

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01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 2: gonna jump in jmar No. I was hearing about butte Maine, no,

1264
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 2: mid coast. Further than this is always good. We got

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Speaker 2: somebody from Vermont, somebody from Maine.

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Speaker 3: So yes, we we appreciate your fire against Arny Spaniard.

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01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: Yes, well, Maine is lovely this time of year. But

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01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 2: he mentioned great takes on the dumpster fire that is

1269
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 2: the NBA. I think he meant w NBA. So let's

1270
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 2: dive in. You know, j Mart, you know you really

1271
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 2: were fired up before the break, before we got to

1272
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: the seger about the idea. So I for you know,

1273
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 2: we have a new audience every couple of minutes, but

1274
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 2: for people who are just joining us, we were talking

1275
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 2: about the disaster that is the WNBA. They can only

1276
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 2: create headlines when there is racial tension in that league.

1277
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: I think it's impossible. Listen, I'll just say this, and

1278
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: I want to get to the Adams Silver Park. I

1279
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 2: think it's impossible to deny that they can only create

1280
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: headlines when there is racial tension. And you know, I

1281
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 2: know that it's because today, literally the biggest star in

1282
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 2: the league, Caitlin Clark, was playing the defending champion, New

1283
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 2: York Liberty, and no one cared, No one knew anything

1284
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: about it. Now, maybe in the final minute, literally in

1285
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 2: the final seconds, there was a controversial non foul call,

1286
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 2: but this wasn't like hyped. People weren't excited, and so

1287
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 2: again it just feels like a league that again cannot

1288
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 2: create interest if there is not racial tension. And before

1289
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 2: the break, you were mentioning Jmart that you think there

1290
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 2: is someone that should be held accountable or needs to

1291
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 2: start holding people accountable. So I want to give you

1292
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 2: the floor to expand on that.

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01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I don't know that he needs to be

1294
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 3: held accountable, but I think that he has some power here.

1295
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 3: I think he had some lever. And if the league

1296
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 3: wants to stay quiet, this being the WNBA, then Adam

1297
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 3: Silver needs to step up and say this is a

1298
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 3: bad look for basketball in general. You know, basically, you

1299
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 3: don't exist without the NBA. You need to rain this in,

1300
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 3: you need to stop this. I gave you a stat

1301
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 3: in a text message that I had heard in the

1302
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 3: last couple of days, seventeen percent of the flagrant fouls

1303
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 3: called last season in the WNBA, Caitlin Clark was a

1304
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 3: victim seventeen percent. Crazy. Well, it's funny. I saw that.

1305
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I'm surprised I wouldn't hire It

1306
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 3: was like one fifth, basically, just short of one fifth

1307
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 3: of all the flagrant calls in the WNBA were fouls

1308
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 3: where somebody was brutalizing Kaitlin Clark. And of course we're

1309
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 3: talking about this borderline. Yeah, it was a hard foul,

1310
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 3: but I think it was a hard foul that was

1311
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 3: in retaliation from Angel Reese pushing her teammate there being

1312
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 3: a no call on the play and her not want

1313
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 3: to give up a layup, and I think I think that, Yeah,

1314
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 3: if if the WNBA is going to do nothing, if

1315
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 3: they're just going to sit on their hands, then this

1316
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 3: is where Adam Silver needs to be the adult in

1317
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 3: the room for them. If they don't want to do this,

1318
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 3: if they if they're and I don't know if you're

1319
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 3: complicit in it, if you're the WNBA, or if you

1320
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 3: have some kind of if you're kind of on the

1321
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 3: side of some of these players and you're just you're

1322
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 3: cool watching this happen in front of you, whatever it is,

1323
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 3: something needs to change here, because it's not even that

1324
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 3: it's a bad look. This is just this is bottom

1325
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 3: of the c level discourse that you end up with

1326
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 3: because of what you're allowing to happen in this league.

1327
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 3: There's no reason for this, and this is one of

1328
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 3: the reasons, by the way erin that last year or

1329
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 3: during the off season, many people, including us, were frustrated

1330
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 3: with what Caitlin Clark was saying when she would win

1331
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 3: like the Time Athlete of the Year award and things

1332
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 3: like this, It's like she was sort of bowing as

1333
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 3: she was doing it, apologizing for all of these things,

1334
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 3: and kind to build up everybody else in the league

1335
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 3: in the moments, like I know what you're doing, but

1336
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 3: I hate to tell you it's not gonna be enough.

1337
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 3: They hate you, they despise you. It's gross, it's completely ridiculous,

1338
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 3: but it's also very transparently accurate, like you're not gonna

1339
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 3: be able to bend the knee far enough and you're

1340
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 3: gonna have to keep on doing it, and now that

1341
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 3: they've seen you do it once, they're going to force

1342
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 3: you to do it over and over and over and

1343
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 3: over again, and they're still gonna hate your guts. And

1344
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 3: I think the biggest problem with all this is like

1345
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 3: you could see it coming, and it's come from so

1346
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 3: many different places, like yes, Angel Reese, but we saw

1347
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 3: this all last year with other players. We also saw

1348
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 3: Don Staley say something about the Iowa team in the

1349
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 3: Final four a couple of years ago. Cheryl swoops like

1350
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 3: can't stop saying bad stuff about Caitlin Clark, and that

1351
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 3: was dating back to the Iowa days. You've heard this

1352
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 3: from like every corner and no one has done anything

1353
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 3: about it, which tells me you all agree with it.

1354
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 3: Like if like, if that's the consensus in the league.

1355
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 3: I got to say, that's just unacceptable. It's a league

1356
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 3: that I want to see fail. It's a league that

1357
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 3: I want to watch burn itself to the ground at

1358
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 3: this point because they have decided that they want to

1359
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 3: go for the lowest common denominator as opposed to trying

1360
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 3: to build their own product, which then tells me that

1361
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 3: your product must suck, your product must stink raw, because

1362
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 3: if it was good at all, you would try to

1363
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 3: mitigate this and go somewhere else. When you've got these

1364
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 3: kinds of conflicts and things like that happening, you try

1365
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 3: to kind of bring down the temperature. And it seems

1366
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 3: like the WNBA is interested in doing the exact opposite,

1367
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 3: and unfortunately for them, it is one of the best

1368
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 3: players in the league against a much less skilled version

1369
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 3: of Ben Wallace without the tact in Angel Reese, and

1370
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 3: that's a problem, and without the self awareness.

1371
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 2: Of who she is, because yeah, Ben Wallace at least

1372
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 2: knew what his role is was and played it well. Yeah, listen,

1373
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with anything you said, and I do

1374
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 2: and listen, and I'll say this too, And I don't

1375
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 2: know what if people are perceiving what you said as

1376
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 2: a crazy take, I don't think it's a crazy take

1377
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 2: at all to say that Adam Silver absolutely has the

1378
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 2: authority to step in and basically say, listen, if you

1379
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 2: guys can't control your league and the discourse around it,

1380
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 2: then I'm gonna step in and do something as well. Obviously,

1381
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 2: I think everybody listening understands that the WNBA is owned

1382
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 2: by the NBA. It obviously runs itself, but it is

1383
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: also financially subsidized by the NBA and has been since

1384
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 2: the day it started. And so you know, I certainly

1385
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 2: think Adam Silver's got his own issues to deal with.

1386
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 2: But I also think, listen, I think, like you said,

1387
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 2: I think it is a black eye on the entire

1388
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 2: sport of basketball. And you know, we can criticize the

1389
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 2: NBA for a lot. There's a lot of things that

1390
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 2: need to be improved on the court, off the court,

1391
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 2: load management, whatever, but at least at the end of

1392
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 2: the day, we're still talking about the games as they

1393
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 2: happen right like like like we're we came on and

1394
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 2: we opened the show talking Minnesota OKC Game three, and

1395
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 2: I understand that not every WNBA game is going to

1396
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 2: be covered in the same manner, but like I said

1397
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 2: to to lead the segment, it just it doesn't feel.

1398
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time someone discussed something series,

1399
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 2: you know, about a game that was based on the

1400
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 2: result in the game. It just it doesn't happen, or

1401
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 2: it certainly doesn't cut through and again, and I think

1402
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 2: you can sit there and say, well, just nobody's gonna talk,

1403
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 2: but it's like there are storylines. As I said to

1404
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 2: lead the segment, or maybe it was the last segment,

1405
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 2: I can't remember. Dallas Wings have Page Beckers, having heard

1406
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 2: a peep out of her Earlier on Saturday, we had

1407
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 2: a matchup of Caitlin Clark and the you know, most

1408
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 2: marketable team in the league versus the defending champ. It

1409
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 2: was Crickets in the lead up to that game, and

1410
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 2: so I just bring it up because it's just it's

1411
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: such a crap show. And I don't think it's crazy

1412
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: for what you said of Adam Silver as someone who

1413
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 2: is quite literally subsidizing this league and has been for

1414
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: twenty five plus years to step in and say, listen,

1415
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: we need we can't be having a national race discourse

1416
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 2: every single time that every single time that you guys

1417
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 2: take the court. You guys got to be better. You

1418
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 2: guys got to figure it out. I don't disagree with

1419
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 2: you at all.

1420
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just this is what you're trying

1421
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 3: to get away from. Is this kind of crap? Like

1422
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 3: that's why you watch sports. You want to escape into it.

1423
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 3: You want to watch these guys and these gallons doing

1424
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 3: things at the highest level. If you're a fan of

1425
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 3: whatever the sport is, you don't need this. Like sometimes

1426
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 3: some of these things are gonna bubble up. But this

1427
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 3: is one of the problems I had, and I don't

1428
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 3: want to get into it because we actually agreed, we

1429
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 3: just didn't have enough, Like we just didn't have enough

1430
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 3: interest in going down this road because it was so

1431
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 3: easy a couple of weeks ago. But this one didn't.

1432
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 3: Like what Jerymond Green said when he had his take

1433
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago about the race issue and all this,

1434
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, I know what you're doing. Just don't

1435
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 3: feed into this beast, please and I'm gonna say something

1436
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 3: else real quick about Dreymond Green. I wish you would

1437
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 3: stop playing, because I actually think he's okay on TV.

1438
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 3: I'm actually entertained by like how he breaks down the

1439
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 3: game and how he talks about the game. I don't

1440
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 3: want to see him play, and I can't stand just

1441
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 3: the way in which he kind of holier than Dows

1442
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 3: himself and tries to play the victim at the same

1443
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 3: time that he is also the perpetrator left and right.

1444
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of angel rees in that as well.

1445
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 3: But if the WNBA, I feel like they have done

1446
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 3: nothing over this past year year and a half but

1447
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 3: beg normal human beings not to watch their league, and

1448
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,879
Speaker 3: because we're already kind of geared not to watch that league,

1449
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 3: that's not a hard sell. Man. It's really not like

1450
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 3: I can do plenty of other stuff. Man, I can

1451
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 3: build more. It gives me more tower time than I

1452
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 3: and build towers with my kids. That gives me more

1453
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,719
Speaker 3: time to read, It gives me time to play games,

1454
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 3: It gives me time to do anything else than watch

1455
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:08,799
Speaker 3: that league. So if they don't want me to watch

1456
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 3: and they want to continually do this this way and

1457
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 3: say things that they are saying, and behave in the

1458
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 3: manner in which they are behaving. Then I'm cool, man,

1459
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 3: Like I got plenty of other stuff on the schedule.

1460
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 3: I got a backlog of things that I've wanted to

1461
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 3: watch for a long time, so I don't even need

1462
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 3: to check the box scores. Man. Good luck to Caitlin

1463
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 3: Clark and good luck to the rest of the league.

1464
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 2: But I'm done it and nothing else that it's it's

1465
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 2: sad what the league is because and by the way,

1466
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 2: it's sad how predictable it is. Where As you and

1467
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 2: I said at right around this time last week, we

1468
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 2: saw the foul and we knew the discourse coming even

1469
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 2: before it happened. Fox Sports Radio Aaron Torres and Jason Martin,

1470
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios, will come back.

1471
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 2: We will get off the WNBA. We need some positivity,

1472
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,600
Speaker 2: so we'll get to Sega involved. He will get you

1473
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 2: caught up on everything that it happened in the world

1474
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 2: of sports on Saturday and beyond. This is Fox Sports Radio.

1475
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody.

1476
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Ertrus Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

1477
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,920
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1478
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1481
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1483
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1484
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 2: Don't want to waste any more time, Let's get over

1485
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: right to the news desk. Steve de Sager, my friend,

1486
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 2: go ahead, get us caught up on everything we missed

1487
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 2: throughout the day.

1488
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 3: Hello once again.

1489
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 5: In the Philadelphia Phillies have an eight game winning streak

1490
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,480
Speaker 5: on the line. They have just fallen behind in Sacramento

1491
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 5: against the A's.

1492
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 3: It is still weird to hear.

1493
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 5: It's correct to get used to it. It's at least

1494
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 5: three years there in West Sacramento Athletics six' five over

1495
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 5: The phillies bottom of the eighth because The A'S Dh Brent.

1496
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 5: Rooker it's a solo homer in the bottom of the eighth.

1497
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 5: Inning so not done, yet but The phillies are trailing.

1498
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 5: Late The a's are trying to end a ten game losing.

1499
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 5: Streak they've just ended the eighth inning going to the

1500
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 5: ninth six' five for the.

1501
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 2: Home team by the way, TO say i don't mean,

1502
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: to interrupt but you mentioned at least three years For

1503
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 2: the SACRAMENTO as i Am in vegas right NOW and

1504
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: i literally was driving around asking my mom the other

1505
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 2: day where are they putting the? Baseball stadium and unless

1506
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 2: something has changed in the last seventy, TWO hours i

1507
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 2: don't believe they actually have a site yet for the.

1508
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 2: BASEBALL stadium i think they know where they, want it

1509
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 2: but it's not one hundred.

1510
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 5: Percent right they have torn Down the tropicana ACROSS, from

1511
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 5: mgm and it's not far From The. Hockey, arena yes

1512
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,839
Speaker 5: and they are due to put a smaller sized apparently

1513
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,600
Speaker 5: with a Roof In Las Vegas baseball. Stadium THERE but

1514
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 5: i do know that we walked Through the tropicana before

1515
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 5: it was, TORN down i think. Last summer so as

1516
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 5: far as, LAND space i think that has been.

1517
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 2: The, plan, yes well you are CORRECT that i think

1518
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 2: they have the. PROPOSE site i don't believe it's one hundred.

1519
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 2: PERCENT finalized i. DON'T believe i certainly know for a

1520
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 2: fact they haven't broken GROUND unless i totally.

1521
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 3: Miss something but The point i'm trying to make. Is,

1522
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 3: that yeah it's kind of a.

1523
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 2: Crap show but you mentioned at least three Years, in

1524
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 2: sacramento and they got to get to work.

1525
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 3: If they want to make sure it's only.

1526
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 5: Three years and keep, in mind it's not just not Playing.

1527
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 5: In oakland they are Sharing A triple a stadium for,

1528
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 5: three years which means this one field is not getting

1529
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 5: eighty home games, or so it's more like one hundred

1530
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 5: and sixty. Home games, so, that yes they have redone

1531
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 5: the field and the drainage under it and all, of

1532
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 5: that so maybe it'll, work Out, but okay it's about ten,

1533
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 5: thousand seats and you don't know if the ball is

1534
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 5: just going to keep flying out once we get. To

1535
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 5: Summer and i'm staying tuned for, all that, of course

1536
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 5: because the Hurricane in florida. Also recently keep in Mind

1537
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 5: The Tampa bay rays are not playing in. Their dome

1538
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,719
Speaker 5: they're at a spring training stadium with about ten thousand

1539
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 5: seats for this. Entire season and the other game that's

1540
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 5: going on As. At Anaheim the angels have won eight in,

1541
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 5: a row but they are trailing with one out bottom

1542
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 5: of the ninth six two To. The Marlins the mets

1543
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 5: Beat the Dodgers ON fox tv tonight five. To Two

1544
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 5: the mets have thirty one wins thirty one and. Twenty

1545
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 5: one dodgers have thirty. Two Victories the mets with a

1546
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 5: very good home record this year eighteen. And Six one

1547
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 5: soto a two, run double so he's batting averages over two.

1548
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 5: Forty Now david peterson the winning pitcher seven and, two thirds,

1549
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 5: Seven Strikeouts kjehoho tani. Three Times tony gonsolin went five

1550
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:30,679
Speaker 5: innings took.

1551
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 3: The loss For.

1552
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 5: The dodgers and the other Game on fox for part of,

1553
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 5: The country cleveland and ten innings Won at detroit seven.

1554
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 5: To five guardians having a. Good weekend tiger's home record

1555
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 5: now seventeen. And Eight Cleveland's jose ramirez now has a

1556
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 5: seventeen game. Hitting streak WELL in, nba history it has,

1557
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 5: happened before but, not often that THE reigning mvp gets

1558
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 5: blown out. Like, This Tonight oklahoma city was Ripped at

1559
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 5: minnesota one forty three to one. Oh One Shay gilgis

1560
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 5: alexander and come in a losing by forty. Two, points

1561
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 5: Actually stat seeing points out that the only three times

1562
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 5: in history now that this has ever happened IN the

1563
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 5: nba where THAT SEASON'S na mvp lost this BADLY and

1564
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 5: i mean three times only playoffs or. Regular season all

1565
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 5: three have come at the hands Of a minnesota team in.

1566
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:25,759
Speaker 5: The POSTSEASON tonight Sga. And minnesota, Last Year nikola jokic

1567
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,560
Speaker 5: lost by forty five in a game To, the timberwolves

1568
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:32,560
Speaker 5: and in nineteen, FIFTY Six Mvp bob pettitt lost a

1569
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 5: game by fifty eight To The. Minneapolis lakers timberwolves were

1570
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 5: up twenty after the, first quarter their largest lead ever

1571
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 5: after a. First period it got so bad at. The

1572
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 5: half they were down. Thirty one the thunder were at,

1573
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 5: the half and some people, still think, my goodness with

1574
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 5: the other teams that have, been out this is the

1575
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 5: champion that we're going to be.

1576
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 3: Looking at in a. Few.

1577
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 5: Weeks, right so so the, question was has there ever

1578
01:18:56,040 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 5: BEEN an nba champion that was badly beaten like this

1579
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 5: at halftime of their? Playoff run the answer Is The

1580
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 5: memorial day massacre of the nineteen Eighty. Five lakers they

1581
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 5: were down thirty at and Half at boston got killed in,

1582
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 5: that game but did win the finals. In, Six Today

1583
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 5: oklahoma city was down, thirty one still has a chance for,

1584
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 5: the title still has a chance to win, this series

1585
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 5: up two games. To one.

1586
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 2: The saga we, appreciate you, my man thank you for

1587
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 2: all of the updates across the world. Of sports It

1588
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,759
Speaker 2: was it is A Busy memorial. Day weekend so we're gonna.

1589
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:36,600
Speaker 2: Come back we Will revisit game Three. In, Minnesota. Minnesota

1590
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 2: okase we'll look Ahead to game Three. On sunday and

1591
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 2: we got more to talk about college. Football Playoff, aaron

1592
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 2: rodgers a lot. To discuss one, Hour Left, Aaron Torris

1593
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 2: jason martin taking until Two. Am eastern This Is.

1594
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 3: Fox sports are you.

1595
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 1: You're Listening To Fox Sports.

1596
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 3: Radio radio, Welcome Man Fox, Sports Radio Fox. Sports saturday

1597
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 3: glad to have you. With us, third hour final hour of.

1598
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 3: The program plenty to get to talk. Some football we

1599
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 3: haven't talked a lot, of football. Maybe none as a matter,

1600
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 3: of fact in the first two hours of, this show

1601
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 3: spent a lot of time ON a wnba an hour

1602
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 3: two maybe the last time we ever talked, about It

1603
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 3: because i'm done and plenty ON, the nba and hour

1604
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 3: one we're about to hit that. Here again we are

1605
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 3: live In The Fox sports, radio Studios timber wolves one

1606
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 3: forty three to one oh one victors Over The Oklahoma.

1607
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 3: CITY thunder i said this off the start of, the

1608
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 3: program and airon torres were efforting to try and. Get

1609
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 3: back he's he's on, location tonight so we've had a few.

1610
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 3: Tech issues. All GOOD so i did not understand after

1611
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 3: game two why it became trendy to then say That

1612
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 3: The thunder we're gonna sweep The. Two wolves I'm a,

1613
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 3: thunder FAN and i didn't understand it because EVEN though

1614
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 3: i agree That the thunder are the, better team all

1615
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 3: they had done to that point was what you were

1616
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 3: expected to do when you have home. Court advantage men,

1617
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 3: at home they won two games. At home what's the?

1618
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 3: Old adage where did? That go the old adage of

1619
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 3: the series doesn't start until the home, team loses Unfortunate for.

1620
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 3: Knicks fans but in, this Case the thunder won. At

1621
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 3: home their role players, showed up because that's what role

1622
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,600
Speaker 3: players do. At home then they go on the road and.

1623
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 3: It reverses that's why it's hard to win on. THE road,

1624
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 3: i mean obviously you have a, hostile environment but your

1625
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 3: guys that aren't, your superstars your superstars have to show,

1626
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 3: up everywhere but it's those other guys that usually show

1627
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 3: up at home. For you they're. More familiar they are

1628
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 3: just more comfortable in at building when they're shooting. The

1629
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 3: ball everything's just it just. Feels better and then you

1630
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 3: go on the road and it just it's it's a

1631
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:03,879
Speaker 3: different such that the temperature is different in the building

1632
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 3: and locker room and. Everything else whatever. It is the

1633
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 3: role players and role players for. A reason they do

1634
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 3: survey role they do survey. A purpose but you can't

1635
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 3: count on them the way that you can count. On

1636
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 3: superstars So The minnesota timberwolves were awful from distance in

1637
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 3: the first, two games and then they come home and

1638
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 3: they shot fifty percent in, game three they were twenty

1639
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 3: of forty, from three and they were almost sixty percent from.

1640
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 3: THE field i think there were fifty seven point eight

1641
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 3: percent from the field where the te wolves and they

1642
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 3: shot them all awful in both the first. Two games

1643
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 3: they were a little better in, game two but just

1644
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 3: they got home and they got. More comfortable randall, Got

1645
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 3: hot edwards. Got hot but they had, seven dudes four

1646
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 3: of them from, the bench that were in double figures in.

1647
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 3: This game and they were also playing for, their season

1648
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 3: but it became, very popular seemingly to say that The

1649
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 3: t wolves were gonna, get SWEPT and i mean by

1650
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 3: people that make a ton of money in this industry,

1651
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 3: in media, we're, saying yeah The t wolves are going

1652
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 3: to get swept By. THE thunder i didn't. BELIEVE that

1653
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 3: i thought it was gonna be a six game series to.

1654
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 3: Begin with, And yeah i'm picking, my GUYS but i

1655
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 3: got more respect for The t wolves. Than that this

1656
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 3: is a team is In The Western conference finals a.

1657
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 3: Year ago they've got a lot, of talent and eventually

1658
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 3: they're gonna make. Some shots it's not gonna be a

1659
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 3: complete cakewalk no matter. What happens So this game three

1660
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 3: played out almost EXACTLY like i thought. It would maybe

1661
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 3: not to this degree when it comes to a forty two,

1662
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,719
Speaker 3: point win but one of the things was a thirty

1663
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 3: point game at. The half almost are pretty close. TO it,

1664
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 3: i Mean, shake Gill. Just alexander when we played twenty

1665
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,600
Speaker 3: eight minutes in, THE game i don't think anybody For

1666
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 3: the thunder played more than more. Than that, so yeah

1667
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 3: THIS was, i mean it was, a beatdown but they

1668
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 3: were also able To not i'd rather lose like this

1669
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 3: than lose by two and have, to play, you know

1670
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 3: my starter's forty forty two minutes of the game fighting to.

1671
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 3: Lose again, knicks fans that's an unfortunate reality that you

1672
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 3: live in at this point because your guys have had

1673
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 3: to play a ton of minutes to get beat twice.

1674
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 3: At home that's a that's a tough ass to then

1675
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 3: go on, the road. Probably exhausted because so this is

1676
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 3: a pro, wrestling analogy AN industry i have worked in,

1677
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:24,799
Speaker 3: for many many years in. Different capacities but the bumps

1678
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 3: always hurt in a, silent arena like when you were rolling,

1679
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 3: on adrenaline the bumps just don't hurt quite. As bad

1680
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 3: they might hurt the, next day but those falls when

1681
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 3: you're in a building and the crouds just not into what,

1682
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 3: you're doing but you're still doing the. Same stuff you're

1683
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,600
Speaker 3: still coming off the, top rope you're still taking that

1684
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 3: drop kick and taking that, back bump whatever. It is

1685
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 3: when you can hear a pin drop in, the building

1686
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 3: everything hurts a whole. Lot worse and so if You're,

1687
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 3: the knicks you have essentially put yourself in that spot

1688
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 3: because you've. Given it you're all in front of. Your

1689
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 3: crowd so they've been giving you everything, they have but

1690
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 3: you still found a way. To lose that has, To

1691
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 3: smart that has to really hurt because it's sort of

1692
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 3: like losing in silence because you're not supposed to lose in.

1693
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 3: That moment that's that's what home court. Advantage is that's

1694
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 3: what we are seeing In The western conference. Right now

1695
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,799
Speaker 3: so we're seeing play out. So far game four. Becomes

1696
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 3: critical If the thunder Beat The tea Wolves On, monday

1697
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 3: night then the series is over because you're not going

1698
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,959
Speaker 3: to see a three to one comeback Against That oklahoma

1699
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 3: city team By this. Minnesota team. You're not if it's two,

1700
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,719
Speaker 3: to two things are very interesting. Going forward it. Really

1701
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 3: is but then you look at it on the flip

1702
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 3: side Of, the east they just don't have. That Luxury

1703
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 3: the knicks have got to go on the road And win.

1704
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 3: Game three if, they don't this thing is. A rap

1705
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 3: maybe it, goes five but it's, a RAP and i

1706
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 3: think they. Know that but how tired? Are they how

1707
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 3: much energy did they expend end to lose by Five

1708
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 3: on friday Night when brunson missed that, deep three and

1709
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 3: when they had those mental lapses late and, just defensively

1710
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 3: they weren't able To Stop pascal siakam and just they

1711
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 3: were in trouble most of the night Against that, pacers

1712
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 3: team which is not really what you would have anticipated after,

1713
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 3: game one except for the fact that you played an

1714
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 3: extra five minutes and. You lost so everything. Hurts worse

1715
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 3: you're more tired and, more exhausted and now you've got

1716
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 3: to put forth, more effort, and like mentally you have

1717
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 3: to check yourself, and, realize look we can't do. Too

1718
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 3: much we just have to go out and play. Our

1719
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 3: game and that can be difficult when you're down, too

1720
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 3: well because the pressure is all. On Them the pacers

1721
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 3: can kind of play free a. Little bit now you

1722
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 3: don't want to, lose there but you've already taken two

1723
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 3: from them on, the road whereas In The western conference everything's.

1724
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 3: On serf nobody's broken, serve yet and so it's kind

1725
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 3: of exactly what you would anticipate a series is supposed.

1726
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 3: To BE so i don't know why it became easy

1727
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 3: to then say that there was going to be a

1728
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 3: sweet but that just became exactly where. We went and

1729
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 3: what did, You, get well You Got anthony edwards showing

1730
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 3: up we haven't talked a Lot About anthony edwards on.

1731
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 3: This show i've heard this now for a couple. OF

1732
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 3: days i think it's become pretty popular to now have

1733
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 3: revisionist history and, say that, you know We Crowned anthony

1734
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 3: edwards before we, should have and all this other kind. Of,

1735
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 3: Stuff Look anthony edwards is a great. Basketball player, he

1736
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 3: is but to, this point that's all. He is he's not,

1737
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 3: a leader he's not a dude that like everybody. Rallies

1738
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 3: around he's just a. Great ballplayer he's Very much kevin

1739
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 3: durantish in. That way he's not as thin Skinned As.

1740
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 3: Kevin durant he's not all in his feelings The Way kevin.

1741
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 3: Durant is but ultimately he just wants to be left

1742
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 3: alone to go, play basketball which is Exactly What kevin

1743
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 3: durant has. ALWAYS said i just want to go. PLAY

1744
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 3: ball i want, TO hoop i want to do that's

1745
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 3: THAT'S what i. Love Doing anthony edwards wants to be

1746
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 3: a great. Basketball player when, they asked do you want

1747
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 3: to be the face of, The, league no he does

1748
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 3: not want to be the face of. The league and

1749
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 3: you kind of watch him at you're waiting for him

1750
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 3: to take, over games and he doesn't really. Do IT

1751
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 3: so i do think that there is something to. That

1752
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 3: narrative we can watch and Appreciate What anthony edwards has

1753
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 3: done and what he has been and at the same, moment,

1754
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 3: say man he's still got a lot of room to,

1755
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 3: get better and he's still got. Some things there are

1756
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 3: definitely some flaws here when it comes to his ability

1757
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 3: to be. The guy he can be the guy from a,

1758
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 3: basketball STANDPOINT but i don't know that that's good enough

1759
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 3: to actually take you to a championship in the state.

1760
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 3: AND age i don't know that. IT is i don't

1761
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 3: think that the mix last year was what, they needed

1762
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 3: so they made a couple of tweaks and some of

1763
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 3: THAT stuff i think has worked out pretty well, For

1764
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 3: THEM but i still don't know that they have a.

1765
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 3: Definite leader and if you don't have a definite leader on,

1766
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 3: the floor if you don't have a, floor general you

1767
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 3: put that in air quotes if, you want then you've

1768
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 3: got to have that on. The SIDELINES and i think

1769
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 3: That should minnesota lose this in five or maybe even,

1770
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 3: in six questions are probably going to be Asked about

1771
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 3: finch and maybe they. Should be you Look. At carlisle

1772
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 3: carlisle has been exquisite For. The pacers you look at

1773
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 3: most of these teams and you look at what You've Seen,

1774
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 3: kenny atkinson who Was the coach Of, the year and

1775
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 3: a lot of coaches in this league and what they're able,

1776
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 3: to do and then you Look at finch and if,

1777
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 3: they lose it's, just, like well who was leading? This

1778
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 3: team who was the actual leader on? This team like

1779
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 3: you look at it and, you think like maybe it

1780
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 3: should be Like A mike conley or somebody. Like that

1781
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 3: this more of a veteran guy that has led some

1782
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,759
Speaker 3: teams in. The past but the, problem is you don't

1783
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 3: have a bunch of dudes On that minnesota roster with

1784
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 3: championship experience. Or rings i'm not sure you. Have anybody

1785
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 3: as a matter, OF fact I probably i'd have to

1786
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 3: think that. Went through you have guys that have made

1787
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 3: it to a conference finals obviously before this year and now,

1788
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 3: this year of course all of, Them have but what

1789
01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 3: do you have when it comes to that level. Of

1790
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 3: crunch when it comes to this is when we determine

1791
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 3: your true colors and we see exactly what you are as.

1792
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 3: A team i'm not sure the rudder, is THERE and

1793
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 3: i don't Know That anthony edwards is a guy that

1794
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 3: actually wants to be tasked with being the guy that

1795
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 3: then kind of leads and brings, Everybody around like you

1796
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 3: know who that is with the next It's, Jaymen brunson like.

1797
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 3: It's not there's never been a question mark. About that

1798
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 3: With the heat when they were rolling Prior, to lebron

1799
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 3: it was Of Course. Dwayne wade, for him It Was

1800
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 3: Alonzo morning like you can name this for almost every

1801
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 3: franchise in. This league but it's not about who's the

1802
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 3: best player, on there it's who's the. Galvanizing force do

1803
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 3: guys just all of a sudden rise their level to

1804
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 3: play Because Of? Anthony edwards Or Is anthony edwards just

1805
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 3: a really good individual basketball player who from time to

1806
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 3: time reminds you that he can be just insane from an,

1807
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 3: athletic standpoint from, handling standpoint from a, shooting standpoint, All

1808
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 3: that but there are MOMENTS where i think you want

1809
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 3: to see him take over when he, Has it and

1810
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 3: that was Something that torres has said many times on

1811
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 3: this SHOW that i. Agree with it's like there's something

1812
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 3: absent there in him that, you want and maybe he's

1813
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 3: just not built to be. THAT guy, i mean if

1814
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,679
Speaker 3: he plays like this for the rest of, his career

1815
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 3: he's going to Be in Hall. OF fame, i mean

1816
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 3: he's an. Outstanding player this is not about his ability on.

1817
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 3: The floor it's his ability to lead a championship team

1818
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 3: as opposed to being a crucial piece where there still

1819
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 3: needs to be somebody else that's kind of driving. The

1820
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 3: ship he just more or less Wants to he wants.

1821
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 3: To hoop and that was the same thing Like When

1822
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 3: kevin durant Was In. OKLAHOMA city i keep Going To

1823
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 3: kevin durant because it just seems like the most. OBVIOUS

1824
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 3: comparison i Don't Think kevin durant was ever really. A

1825
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 3: leader THAT'S why i ended up Joining A steph Curry

1826
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 3: Led golden. State team IT was, I Mean russell westbrook

1827
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 3: was more sort of the vocal leader and the force on.

1828
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 3: The floor durant was just the. Silent assassin that's what.

1829
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 3: He did he just took shots and he made a ton.

1830
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:09,799
Speaker 3: Of shots he did everything he wanted on, the floor

1831
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 3: but there was not, that like, all right this dude

1832
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 3: is the dude you're following like With the lakers for a,

1833
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 3: long time You Had, derek fisher you had guys like

1834
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 3: that that was Not A, kevin DURANT and i don't

1835
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 3: think It's An. Anthony EDWARDS and i think that's one

1836
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 3: of the things that Is causing minnesota so, much trouble

1837
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 3: even though it certainly Didn't in game three in, this

1838
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 3: series is that many times you were looking for the

1839
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 3: rudder on, the ship or you're looking for, the captain

1840
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 3: and there's nobody that is there to take. That mantle

1841
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 3: and it should Be An anthony edwards based on, his

1842
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 3: talent but it may not be. His personality it may

1843
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 3: just not be the way. HE'S driven i don't need

1844
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 3: to be. THE leader i just want to go out

1845
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 3: and be the nastiest basketball player that you've, ever seen

1846
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 3: and oftentimes he looks. That part but when this gets

1847
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 3: like let's say this does Stay on serve and you

1848
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 3: Go to, game five that's where you need a leader to.

1849
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 3: Step up If you're minnesota on, the road you need

1850
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 3: that guy to, step up not just on the floor

1851
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 3: of what, he's doing but also just making sure everybody is.

1852
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 3: On BOARD and i don't know that they. HAVE that

1853
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 3: i don't think they have. THAT invention i don't think

1854
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 3: they have That In. Anthony EDWARDS and i think that

1855
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:21,799
Speaker 3: separates what we can Say About anthony edwards in terms

1856
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 3: of where he. Finds, himself now he had a very

1857
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 3: efficient thirty point Night in, game three but that's what he's.

1858
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 3: Gonna do he's gonna make shots and he's gonna do

1859
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 3: amazing things on the. Basketball floor but what's. The difference

1860
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 3: the difference is the leadership qualities Of A joeen brunson

1861
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 3: or A Shake gilges alexander Or nikolea jokic or one of.

1862
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 3: THOSE guys i Don't See anthony edwards. Like that that

1863
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 3: DOESN'T mean i don't think he's as great a player

1864
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 3: as some of THE guys i, Just mentioned but that's

1865
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 3: not the. Entire game and when you get into, the

1866
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 3: playoffs it's not just who the best basketball. Player is

1867
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 3: it's it's, team oriented it's it's, galvanizing force, it's motivation

1868
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 3: it's leading from, the front and it can't just be

1869
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,719
Speaker 3: me scoring more points than everybody else on. MY team

1870
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 3: I just i haven't seen those Qualities Out anthony. Edwards

1871
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 3: yet maybe maybe it's something that you've SEEN that. I

1872
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 3: haven't you can tweet Me At jmart radio and let

1873
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 3: me know, about THAT but i just it just hasn't

1874
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 3: been there up to. This point, But nonetheless minnesota won

1875
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 3: forty three to one oh One in. Game three game

1876
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 3: four will Be on. MONDAY night a lot of guys

1877
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 3: weren't forced to play minutes on either side because this

1878
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 3: thing was decided. So early so maybe we're gonna have

1879
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 3: a little bit more fresh Legs in game four for, both,

1880
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 3: Teams uh and maybe that's gonna make for a little

1881
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 3: bit more of an exciting and balanced game where both

1882
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:51,480
Speaker 3: teams are actually shooting the, ball better Even With oklahoma

1883
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 3: city on. The road so we'll find that out when

1884
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 3: we come back out of. The break we can shift

1885
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 3: gears a little bit because we haven't, talked, about UH

1886
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 3: the nfl in college football yet. At All and torres

1887
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 3: teased in the Second Hour aaron rodgers and talking a

1888
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 3: little bit. About That There's ben johnson responding to some

1889
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,839
Speaker 3: of the things that have been Said About. Kayleb williams

1890
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,759
Speaker 3: there's a COUPLE of, NFL topics, i Think Including josh

1891
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 3: allen And the bills again being talked about like they

1892
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 3: should Be The super. Bowl favorites i'm gonna tell YOU

1893
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 3: why i don't care about that conversation and playoff receding

1894
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,760
Speaker 3: in college football and what. That means so all of

1895
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 3: that is still to come here on. This program we're

1896
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 3: gonna continue to try And bring aaron, back in but him.

1897
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 3: On location we're trying to work through that as best.

1898
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 3: We can but we are live In The Fox sports,

1899
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:41,680
Speaker 3: radio studios and we'd be back in a flash right HERE.

1900
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:46,080
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1901
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,840
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1902
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1903
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 4: fsr to. Listen Live aaron.

1904
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 3: Rodgers drops, a hint do we? Even care we'll talk

1905
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:01,440
Speaker 3: about it here in just, A, Second Hugh. Aaron, rodgers

1906
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 3: yeah there. You Go kenny mayne. Stepping in. Appreciate It

1907
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 3: Fox sports saturday Here On Fox. Sports radio torres apparently

1908
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 3: is like In The arctic circle somewhere in terms of his. Technical,

1909
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 3: issues Look man vegas is doing a lot of, things

1910
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 3: right but apparently tonight radio is not one. Of them

1911
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 3: but still working. On It, j mar would you like

1912
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 3: to do the? OVERNIGHT too, I mean i've done. THAT

1913
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 3: before i actually have pulled that like seven hours. And

1914
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 3: stop it's a, DOABLE. Thing. Leu MAN all i gotta

1915
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 3: do is be be ready to preach in, the MORNING

1916
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 3: and i can do that ON whatever i need to.

1917
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 3: Do that so you let me know what's happening after.

1918
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 3: The show but you can stream this show and all

1919
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 3: Of Our Fox sports. Radio Shows perhaps i'm gonna host

1920
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 3: them all live twenty four to seven in the new

1921
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 3: And improved. iHeartRadio app Just Search Fox. Sports radio in,

1922
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 3: the app you can stream. Us live on the. Newest

1923
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:03,919
Speaker 3: features you Can Select Fox sports radio as, a preset

1924
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 3: just like the presets on your. Radio dial so, go

1925
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 3: Ahead Preset Fox sports radio And the. iHeartRadio app it's

1926
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 3: always going to pop up at the top of. That

1927
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:21,720
Speaker 3: Screen So aaron rodgers Was in Texas in austin at

1928
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 3: some kind of an event with a Rapper Named Mike

1929
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 3: STUD and i am not going to front AS if

1930
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 3: i know What A mic, STUD is i have. No

1931
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:34,719
Speaker 3: idea that is not a NAME that i knew prior

1932
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 3: to reading. This story i'm somebody that was up on

1933
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 3: hip hop for, a While but i'm forty SIX and

1934
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,639
Speaker 3: i think that those days are behind Me NOW when

1935
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 3: i hear the Name of i've hit. That rate like

1936
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 3: you get to a spot where you're old ENOUGH that

1937
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 3: i Go To apple music to see. NEW albums i

1938
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 3: want to see if any of any of my favorite

1939
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:56,599
Speaker 3: bands have a new album, coming out and all of

1940
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 3: the stuff that is featured like on the, NEW releases

1941
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 3: i DON'T even i mean the. TOP screens i mean

1942
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:04,600
Speaker 3: like the second line where, it's like here's all the

1943
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 3: upcoming things that you can pre order. COMING soon i

1944
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 3: know none. Of them i'm, just like is? THIS music

1945
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 3: i have no idea what? This is like that's How old,

1946
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,600
Speaker 3: I've BECOME like i have to look deep in, to

1947
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 3: see like Is the War on drugs that got a new?

1948
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 3: Album out national got a new? Album out like you

1949
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 3: can't find most of this stuff because there's a whole

1950
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 3: lot of other and a lot of these a lot

1951
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 3: of these artists have like dollar signs instead. Of essays.

1952
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 3: It's madness it's quite. Frankly Madness but mike stud no

1953
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 3: disrespect other than just not knowing who, he is could

1954
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 3: be incredible for. Whatever Reason aaron rodgers was at. An

1955
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 3: event there WAS a q and a session and a

1956
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 3: girl gets up pretty young and Asks If aaron rodgers

1957
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 3: is going to play For The chicago bears or if

1958
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 3: you would, interesting question not really shuit where it, came

1959
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 3: from considering They F caleb williams in, year two a

1960
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 3: new coach and all. This Stuff But aaron rodgers' response to,

1961
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 3: THIS was i believe there's a team that might Play

1962
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 3: in chicago this year on a. Road trip and of

1963
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 3: Course The pittsburgh steelers are going to Play in chicago

1964
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 3: this year on a, road trip so there's the hint. Being,

1965
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 3: dropped uh now he's going to Be. A steeler and

1966
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 3: of Course the roonies have come out, and said, you

1967
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 3: know we're giving him a little bit. More TIME and

1968
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 3: i think collectively many of us HAVE just i rolled this.

1969
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 3: Whole thing they don't know what's happening at the. Quarterback

1970
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 3: spot and we're Basically, in june like camp is going.

1971
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 3: To be we're one hundred, days, away folks from the

1972
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 3: start of the college. Football season, like this we're not

1973
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 3: far away, from this like football is going to be

1974
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 3: played camps and you have to start working through some

1975
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 3: things and figuring. Stuff out Not That aaron rodgers was

1976
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:51,600
Speaker 3: somebody that came to camp early in most of. The

1977
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:55,679
Speaker 3: time But the steelers are just letting this dude hold.

1978
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 3: Them hostage and then he goes and he answers this

1979
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 3: question with this flippant response that's designed to grab attention

1980
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 3: and get people like me talking about it on. THE

1981
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 3: radio I think vegas has Actually Allowed aaron torres back on.

1982
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 3: The air i'm, not POSITIVE but I think torres you.

1983
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 3: WITH me i can you? HEAR me i. Hear, You,

1984
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 3: okay well here's.

1985
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 2: The deal i'm gonna let you just run this show

1986
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:20,439
Speaker 2: for the rest of, the night and.

1987
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 3: Apparently you might be doing four.

1988
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 2: MORE hours i don't know if you're ready for the Overnight,

1989
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 2: with bernie, BUT yeah i think Me and bernie are

1990
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 2: on the same. Thing here it's a busy travel. Weekend

1991
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:32,680
Speaker 2: obviously so first, of all, you know just so, YOU

1992
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 2: know i want to apologize to, Both, you bree, tight shirt.

1993
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 2: ET cetera i apologize and don't mean to put more

1994
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 2: on your. Guy's plate, but yeah apparently it's. A Thing

1995
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 2: but i'm gonna let you just run, the show and

1996
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 2: whatever you want to, Talk about i'll respond IN case i.

1997
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 2: CRAP out i don't want to be, be LEADING but

1998
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:52,680
Speaker 2: i hear There's An aaron rodgers take that we're.

1999
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 3: Percolating, on, so yeah do you know What a mike?

2000
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 3: Stud is have you ever Heard of? MIKE stud I

2001
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 3: think i need one to stay connected to the. Internet, today,

2002
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:04,719
Speaker 3: yeah yeah that's a. Good one he's. A Rapper And

2003
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 3: aaron rodgers was at an event with him and DOES

2004
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 3: a Q and a session and a young girl gets up,

2005
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 3: and asks would you ever play For The chicago Bears? And,

2006
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 3: rogers ever the, SHOWMAN says i believe there's a team

2007
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 3: that might Play in chicago this year on a. Road,

2008
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 3: trip yes in case you, were Wondering the pittsburgh's going

2009
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:26,679
Speaker 3: back To. The packers he's going back To. The, packers

2010
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:29,839
Speaker 3: yeah certainly they're going to play on a. Road trip vikings.

2011
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 3: ARE too i believe it was a team that might

2012
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 3: Play in chicago this year on a. Road Trip and i'm,

2013
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 3: JUST like, i mean how long is this? Gonna go

2014
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 3: what are? We doing what is? This flirtation and why is?

2015
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 3: This girl like we haven't talked, about this and we

2016
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 3: we kind of has, a policy kind of decided we

2017
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 3: weren't going to talk, about this but now it's, just,

2018
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:50,640
Speaker 3: like Dude. It's june eventually you have to actually like

2019
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:52,800
Speaker 3: something has to. Be DONE and i don't even Just Mean,

2020
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 3: AARON rodgers i Mean, The, steelers like at what point

2021
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:58,679
Speaker 3: are you guys gonna become a professional football? Team again

2022
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:03,679
Speaker 3: because this whole like it's this weird hostage crisis that's

2023
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:07,679
Speaker 3: been going on In The pittsburgh steelers quarterback room now

2024
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 3: for like months. And months nothing happens in, free agency

2025
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 3: nothing's going on because you're Waiting. ON rogers i assume

2026
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:16,680
Speaker 3: he probably is gonna, Go there but, it's like what

2027
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 3: are we doing?

2028
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 2: Here now YOU AND i i don't even know how

2029
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 2: much we've talked about it because there's been, No news

2030
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 2: and it's almost LIKE the, wnba, conversation right is like

2031
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 2: the more you give a non, topic air the more

2032
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:34,560
Speaker 2: like you justify. The behavior it's essentially the same that

2033
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 2: we were just talking about WITH. The wnba and, you know,

2034
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 2: TO me i Guess where i'm a little.

2035
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 3: Bit Surprised Jmart.

2036
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:47,599
Speaker 2: IS like i guess THE analogy i would use is,

2037
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:49,920
Speaker 2: YOU remember i don't know if you, remember this but

2038
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 2: last Offseason When dan hurley was flirting With the lakers

2039
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 2: and YOU and i WERE and i just, basically, said

2040
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 2: like look that organization's a, crap SHOW and i don't

2041
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:00,760
Speaker 2: Know Why dan hurt would want to be a part.

2042
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 2: Of IT and i think unless you LIVE in la

2043
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 2: you don't realize like how weird things. Had GOTTEN and

2044
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 2: I guess i, just wonder are we at that point

2045
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,519
Speaker 2: With the steelers where, it's, like oh maybe they're a

2046
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 2: little bit more of a mess than we realized because

2047
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 2: either one of two things. Is happening either there's a

2048
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 2: silent verbal agreement that he's gonna sign and for, whatever

2049
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,599
Speaker 2: reason they just haven't, executed it.

2050
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:25,679
Speaker 3: Or, MORE realistically i just think they might be a bigger.

2051
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 2: Crap Show and i've said that term like five times

2052
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:29,640
Speaker 2: on this SHOW to i don't, know why but a

2053
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 2: bigger s show than we thought, they WERE because i

2054
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 2: can't think of any. Other explanation and my whole THING

2055
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 2: is i just am surprised That, the steelers as, an

2056
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 2: organization this, proud organization at least publicly appears to be

2057
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 2: letting this dude hold. THEM hostage i, think that to

2058
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 2: me is the big takeaway Is If aaron rodgers has

2059
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 2: the leverage to, do this. THAT'S fine i just don't

2060
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 2: understand Why the steelers are seemingly letting him do that

2061
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 2: over the course of the last.

2062
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 3: Couple, MONTHS yeah i. Don't either and then the OTHER question,

2063
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:03,640
Speaker 3: i have and then we'll get to disigre is are

2064
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 3: we sure? HE'S good i think we are understand, the

2065
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 3: answer but are? WE sure, i mean are We positive

2066
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 3: aaron that twenty, Twenty Five, aaron rodgers whatever he's been

2067
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 3: doing off and on this last handful of, months aware

2068
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 3: are we sure he's actually worth all of this trouble like,

2069
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,480
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, Twenty Nineteen. Aaron rodgers that's a. Different discussion

2070
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 3: but when's the last when's the last time this dude

2071
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 3: won a? Playoff game and when's the last time that

2072
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 3: he played a relevant football game? LIKE it i. DON'T

2073
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 3: know i don't know That, the steelers, like you. Are

2074
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:41,720
Speaker 3: waiting but is the juice even worth? THE squeeze, i

2075
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 3: guess Is what. I'm.

2076
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 2: Saying, Yeah no AND and i was being sarcastic when

2077
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 2: you said DO like i think, you said do we

2078
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 2: know how good? He IS and i think the answer. Is,

2079
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 2: no no, you said are we sure? He's GOOD and

2080
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:52,920
Speaker 2: i think we.

2081
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:55,719
Speaker 3: Do, anymore yeah we do have an answer.

2082
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:57,800
Speaker 2: TO that I just I don't i actually don't think he's,

2083
01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:01,599
Speaker 2: good ANYMORE and i don't, right TERRIBLE because i think

2084
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 2: clearly they think he's an upgrade over what. They had,

2085
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 2: but yeah that's the other element of this is that

2086
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:13,639
Speaker 2: We're Treating aaron rodgers like it's twenty eleven and not twenty.

2087
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 3: Twenty five it's just, a, weird weird. Weird deal and the, other.

2088
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 2: Like here's the, other VARIABLE which i think YOU and

2089
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,599
Speaker 2: i might have talked about at, some point is we

2090
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:24,280
Speaker 2: Can Criticize.

2091
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:26,639
Speaker 3: Russell wilson he did get.

2092
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 2: Them to the playoffs, Last, year, like yeah. How tough

2093
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:32,960
Speaker 2: Must Either russell wilson have been behind the scenes or

2094
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 2: maybe they were seeing stuff in practice that maybe he

2095
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:38,479
Speaker 2: just it was. Smoking mirrors not that he was even

2096
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 2: good on game day but the final four or. Five

2097
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 2: weeks but it's just interesting that they. Moved off they

2098
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 2: bring in the two guys, last offseason not. Just one

2099
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 2: they run in, two guys and they move off both,

2100
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:50,719
Speaker 2: of them by, the way both of them we perceived

2101
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,599
Speaker 2: to be starters heading into, week one and they're gonna

2102
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:56,840
Speaker 2: Wait On, aaron rodgers who apparently is taking questions from

2103
01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 2: seven year olds but can't give us the most, basic answer,

2104
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 2: which is are you gonna Be the steelers quarterback?

2105
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:04,400
Speaker 3: Next year there are a couple of franchises that are

2106
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 3: guilty of not planning for life after a. Stud quarterback

2107
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 3: And the Steelers Let ben roethlisberger play and play and

2108
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:16,640
Speaker 3: play and play and had no Plan. After roethlisberger and

2109
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 3: you're seeing what that looks. Like now you always have

2110
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 3: to be looking ahead. In life you can't just be

2111
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:24,600
Speaker 3: complacent with where you are because something can change in,

2112
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 3: a flash and then you find yourself just embroiled. In

2113
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:30,519
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Speaker 3: radio videos. On YouTube somebody that is made for Video Is.

2121
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Speaker 3: Steve disager let's go to him one more time and

2122
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 3: find out what happened in the world. Of sports steve

2123
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 3: not so sure.

2124
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 5: About that just for, the record as we await, the

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01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 5: MUSIC can.

2126
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:06,560
Speaker 3: I don't sell Yourself, SHOWING.

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01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:09,160
Speaker 5: Yeah i apparently also From The, arctic circle like your

2128
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:09,639
Speaker 5: co host.

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01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 3: So, FAR yeah i WAS like i was about, to,

2130
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 3: says like does anyone have a connection other than me

2131
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 3: in the country.

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01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 5: Right now as FOR former nfl stars going to play

2133
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 5: in another city at the end of, their careers in

2134
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 5: the CASE.

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01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 4: OF.

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01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 5: O j simpson to the Forty nine ers in the late, nineteen,

2137
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:30,719
Speaker 5: seventies no the juice was not worth. The squeeze as

2138
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 5: FOR the mlb, late Game The philadelphia phillies have an

2139
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 5: eight game winning streak on. The line they are tied

2140
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:39,680
Speaker 5: six to six Against the a's in the top of the.

2141
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 5: Eleventh inning each team left bases loaded in, the tenth and,

2142
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 5: before that we HAD an a solo homer in the

2143
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:49,679
Speaker 5: eighth for a brief lead And a phillies solo shot

2144
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 5: top of the ninth to. Tie it it looks Like

2145
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 5: the phills have just taken the lead in the top of. The,

2146
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,919
Speaker 5: eleventh earlier we had a ten inning Game. At detroit

2147
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 5: cleveland Beat the tigers again seven, to nets Over the

2148
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 5: dodgers five. To Two juan soto a two Run double

2149
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:07,439
Speaker 5: miami a six to two winner Over, the angels Ending

2150
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:10,559
Speaker 5: the halos eight game. Winning Streak, tampa bay with three

2151
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:12,720
Speaker 5: runs in, the first wound up winning three to One.

2152
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 5: Against Toronto the rais offense after the first inning went

2153
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 5: one for, twenty two but they got. The W The

2154
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 5: white sox were home Winners over texas ten. To Five

2155
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 5: the rangers have lost six in a Row AND Texas

2156
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 5: Dh jock peterson was hit by a pitch tonight broke.

2157
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 5: His hand atlanta seven to One Over. San Diego the

2158
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,759
Speaker 5: padres have lost seven of eight and Starting Pitcher michael

2159
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 5: king was scratched due to. Shoulder Stiffness the Braves at

2160
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,839
Speaker 5: homer sixteen. To Eight ronald lacune hit a. Homer Tonight

2161
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 5: the braves have activated Him. On friday he was out

2162
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 5: for a year with a Torn acl in his first

2163
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 5: at bat first Pitch, on friday He Homer Cincinnati's andrew

2164
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 5: abbott now four To oho era. Under Two the reds

2165
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 5: Beat the cubs six. To four lie De la cruz

2166
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 5: homer Four RBIs houston a two to one Winner against Seattle.

2167
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:02,559
Speaker 5: From ravaldez the winsh hater The save washington Shut Out

2168
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:06,439
Speaker 5: san francisco three. To nothing Nationals Closer kyle finnegan is

2169
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 5: out with. Shoulder Fatigue the yankees won thirteen to One.

2170
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 5: At Colorado the rockies record now nine and. Forty three

2171
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 5: losing pitcher Today Was, kyle freeland who's zero. To Seven,

2172
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 5: aaron judge it is eighteenth homer that leads the league

2173
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:24,200
Speaker 5: by The Way Kyle schwarber philadelphia with his eighteenth, home

2174
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 5: run and they have just tacked on to. Their advantage

2175
01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 5: looked like it's nine to six in the eleventh At

2176
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 5: the a's. Right now home Wins For saint Louis and

2177
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 5: pittsburgh And, for minnesota which got a run bottom of

2178
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 5: the ninth To Be kansas city five. To four baltimore

2179
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,839
Speaker 5: split a Doubleheader. At Boston The Red Sox alex bregman

2180
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 5: was placed on the injured list with a quote significant.

2181
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 5: Quad injury TO the, nba Playoffs the timberwolves beat the

2182
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 5: thunder by forty two, points tonight the largest margin of

2183
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 5: VICTORY in nba history against any team that won at

2184
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 5: least sixty five games in, that SEASON and i mean

2185
01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 5: playoffs or a Regular season to blow out a good

2186
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 5: team like that one forty three to one to oh

2187
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 5: one was. THE final okc still Leads The Western conference

2188
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 5: finals two games. To one by, the way there have

2189
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:13,200
Speaker 5: been in recent years multiple teams that have been down

2190
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:15,759
Speaker 5: at least forty in a game and still won the title.

2191
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:19,680
Speaker 5: That Year the celtics last year were down almost fifty To,

2192
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 5: the MAVs came back and won. The Title the warriors

2193
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 5: three years ago were down over fifty in a playoff

2194
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 5: game Against the grizzlies and. Came Back the bucks down

2195
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 5: about fifty in a playoff game the year before that

2196
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:31,839
Speaker 5: and came.

2197
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 3: Back and won.

2198
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 5: The Title anthony Edwards and minnesota did have thirty points in.

2199
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:40,040
Speaker 5: Thirty minutes minnesota's lead late second quarter was seventy two to.

2200
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:43,120
Speaker 5: Thirty eight IN, The Wnba new york at three and

2201
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 5: oh One at indiana ninety to. Eighty Eight caitlin clark

2202
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:49,519
Speaker 5: and the loss had tennysis and. Ten turnovers IN the,

2203
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:52,519
Speaker 5: Nhl playoffs florida up three games to none In The

2204
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:55,639
Speaker 5: east final After whipping carolina in the third period six to.

2205
01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 5: The final this game had been one to one going to.

2206
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 5: The third, this series it's. Been blowouts total score is

2207
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 5: sixteen to four For. The panthers that gold differential plus

2208
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 5: twelve the largest through the first three games of any

2209
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 5: conference final in the history OF. THE nhl A REMINDER

2210
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 5: fox tv will Have the indy five Hundred. On sunday

2211
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Speaker 5: fox has all the IndyCar races. This year, updating baseball

2212
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 5: It is phillies nine to six Over the a's And

2213
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 5: the phills are still batting in the top of. The

2214
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 5: eleventh and a note About. The yankees they didn't just

2215
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:30,280
Speaker 5: Win With. Aaron Judge max freed was on. The mound

2216
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 5: he leads the majors in the era at one point

2217
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 5: twenty nine and, in fact from, stats inc since the

2218
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:40,519
Speaker 5: mound was lowered to its present height back in the late,

2219
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 5: nineteen sixties we'd only had One Pitcher. Terermemorial day with these,

2220
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 5: Stats Like max fried has at least seven wins no

2221
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:52,599
Speaker 5: losses yet er under one point five zero. So Far

2222
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 5: pedro martinez did that at this point of the calendar

2223
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 5: in nineteen. Ninety seven freed currently seven.

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01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 3: To zero back, To you I'm Miss. Max freed, Thank.

2225
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:08,520
Speaker 3: You steve Enjoy The vermont. Oklahoma connection, oh. Yeah indeed

2226
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 3: so we're gonna take our final. Break here so this

2227
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:14,679
Speaker 3: has been. The show the theme of this show has

2228
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:18,400
Speaker 3: been kind of like we're putting a moratorium kind of

2229
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 3: putting topic graveyard. OUT here wnba is finding a way

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01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 3: to just end our interest in, it completely as if

2231
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:28,960
Speaker 3: there was that much to. Begin with And Then aaron

2232
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 3: rodgers To. The steelers And then i'm gonna say two.

2233
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 3: More words we. Will predict We'll pick game three Of

2234
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:38,120
Speaker 3: The Eastern conference finals as well before we get out.

2235
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:40,920
Speaker 3: Of here but coming up next live From The Fox sports,

2236
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 3: radio studios perhaps the last two times or the last

2237
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 3: time that we mentioned these two words in this order

2238
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 3: outside of just recapping a. Football Game, Push push we'll be.

2239
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:56,760
Speaker 3: Right Back I'm jason Martin's. Aeron torres This Is Fox.

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01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:01,679
Speaker 3: Sports radio, Welcome Back. Fox Sports it's Saturday Here Fox.

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01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 3: Sports radio He's. ERON torres I Am. Jason martin coming,

2242
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 3: Up Next. Bernie fratto he's gonna have some takes to

2243
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 3: fire off over the next four hours, or so so

2244
01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:20,679
Speaker 3: you want to stick around. For that, oh yeah houses,

2245
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 3: on fire get the women and, children out in the

2246
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:29,680
Speaker 3: Words Of, Charles Barkley bernie freddo. Following, Us yeah i'm

2247
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 3: just letting, it. Roll man it's, more. Tears fears we

2248
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:36,479
Speaker 3: can just keep. It going so, all right we're Gonna

2249
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 3: pick game three here in just, A, Minute Tauris, but,

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01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:46,640
Speaker 3: tush push are we? Done Here like i've had my

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01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 3: take in YOU and i kind of disagree. WITH this

2252
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 3: i want it gone JUST because i think it's, Terrible

2253
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:54,880
Speaker 3: AESTHETICALLY like i hate. Watching it, it's, obnoxious annoying all

2254
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 3: that kind. Of STUFF but i think we've now talked it.

2255
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 3: To death if it couldn't get voted down, this year

2256
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 3: if they needed two more votes and couldn't find them for,

2257
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:07,479
Speaker 3: whatever reason now, this's, like well how did they pull?

2258
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:10,800
Speaker 3: This off and What Was jason? Kelsey's ROLE and I

2259
01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:13,800
Speaker 3: just i just. Forget IT just i. Don't care let's just. Move, on.

2260
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:21,639
Speaker 2: Yeah all i'll, say is, you know it only did

2261
01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 2: not pass by two votes by, all accounts like it

2262
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:30,600
Speaker 2: was Something that goodell was quietly. Pushing for and, you,

2263
01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 2: KNOW listen i mean maybe there's a possibility that's sometime

2264
01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:37,040
Speaker 2: between now and the start of, next year somebody sort

2265
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:39,280
Speaker 2: of figures out how to stop it With The. PHILADELPHIA

2266
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 2: eagles i don't think that's, gonna HAPPEN but i, YOU

2267
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 2: know i do think that, IF listen i think the

2268
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:48,880
Speaker 2: one thing that we found is that things that the

2269
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:52,400
Speaker 2: one the, owners want but two that the commissioner wants

2270
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 2: generally tend. To HAPPEN so i hope that we're done.

2271
01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 2: With it i've given, MY stance i. Understand yours My

2272
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 2: stand this is. Pretty simple just because one team has

2273
01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:06,840
Speaker 2: a strategic advantage because of one quarterback doesn't MEAN we

2274
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 2: i just think it's a. Slippery Slope and i've used

2275
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 2: the example and it's not perfect apples, To apples but,

2276
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:13,960
Speaker 2: You Know josh allen could throw a sixty yard ball

2277
01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 2: on a dot to whoever his star wide, receiver is

2278
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 2: Whether It's stefon diggs or, you Know Now keon coleman.

2279
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 2: Or whoever Just Because bryce young can't make that throw

2280
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:29,200
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that we should outlaw the sixty yard pass.

2281
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 2: Down FIELD and i feel like it's the exact same

2282
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 2: thing with. This play so, To me i'm glad that

2283
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 2: it got. Voted down. I'm excited but when you see that,

2284
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:42,800
Speaker 2: it was, you, know however many owners needed to and

2285
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 2: it fell to, vote short and things, can change and

2286
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,040
Speaker 2: you know what If the eagles Win Another super bowl

2287
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 2: or they get back. OR whatever i don't think it's

2288
01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:54,000
Speaker 2: completely off the table because it feels Like Something roger

2289
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 2: goodell wants wants out of, the game and if that's

2290
01:55:57,760 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 2: what the, COMMISSIONER wants i think it's ultimately what. He got,

2291
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:04,400
Speaker 2: it's UNLESS as, i said somehow someway somebody either figures

2292
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:07,000
Speaker 2: out how to slow it down or it's not as

2293
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 2: much of a strategic advantage For the eagles.

2294
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 3: GOING forward, I mean i still hope he, gets it

2295
01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 3: gets it taken care of, as well just BECAUSE again

2296
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:16,960
Speaker 3: i just think it's it's not fun, to watch AND

2297
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 3: it's i think IT'S just i guess you just have

2298
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:22,440
Speaker 3: to make it so if you do ban it, or

2299
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 3: whatever it's like you can't. Push somebody you can't actually.

2300
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:26,920
Speaker 3: Advance them the team can't get behind him like a

2301
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 3: wall and push the, guy forward which IS which i

2302
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:32,640
Speaker 3: Think should i'd be cool with that all across, the

2303
01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 3: board not just on a fourth in. One, situation anytimes

2304
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:39,960
Speaker 3: like let the player make, the play don't let it

2305
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 3: be how many people are standing. Behind him they can

2306
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 3: then force them another five yards downfield and things. Like

2307
01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 3: THAT but i thought it. Was interesting it's like it

2308
01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 3: wasn't a fifty to. Fifty vote it had to be,

2309
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:50,960
Speaker 3: you know twenty, four votes and they got. Twenty two

2310
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 3: so like they still had the, vast majority but they

2311
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 3: didn't have quite enough to get. It done so you're,

2312
01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:59,360
Speaker 3: probably right like maybe maybe they are going to try

2313
01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 3: and put this thing back up for a. Vote Again

2314
01:57:02,200 --> 01:57:04,400
Speaker 3: but kelsey coming in there and saying that it was

2315
01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:07,120
Speaker 3: safe and, ALL that i have, no idea Right like,

2316
01:57:07,160 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 3: I've seen i've seen that talked about. BOTH ways i

2317
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:12,800
Speaker 3: just kind of at, this point It's like i'm sort

2318
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:15,920
Speaker 3: of fatigued by the whole. Thing now the name of

2319
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:18,320
Speaker 3: it is annoying as well as. The play, for me

2320
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 3: it's just frustrating. To watch if it were, my TEAM

2321
01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 3: would i like? IT better i mean probably a, little

2322
01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 3: bit but it would also it's still just not it's just.

2323
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:28,520
Speaker 3: Esthetically bad it doesn't feel like football. To me but

2324
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:31,880
Speaker 3: it's going to be football for at least, another year

2325
01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 3: so we can leave it To, There. NICKS pacers, i

2326
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 3: mean this. Is it if this goes three To, oh

2327
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:42,520
Speaker 3: aaron we know there's not going to be. A comeback

2328
01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 3: there's Not going they're not coming back from three to,

2329
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 3: zero down especially when they're still on the road down three.

2330
01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 3: To zero do you Think the knicks have this win

2331
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:54,320
Speaker 3: in them to make this thing interesting or do you Think,

2332
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:57,240
Speaker 3: the pacers the way that they play and the way

2333
01:57:57,280 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 3: that they play in, clutch time that they're just too much.

2334
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:02,880
Speaker 2: Right now So apparently america doesn't want me to Give

2335
01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 2: any timberwolves TAKES because i literally crapped out the two

2336
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:07,440
Speaker 2: times we Were.

2337
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:10,640
Speaker 3: Talking timberwolves my connection. Crapped Out so i'll.

2338
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 2: Be Brief picked game four, then No and i'll, just

2339
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:17,920
Speaker 2: say is that you laid out the Argument that minnesota's

2340
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 2: entire season was on the Line on saturday Evening in,

2341
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:23,520
Speaker 2: game three and that was why we saw the best version.

2342
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 2: Of them i'll go ahead and say it's the same For.

2343
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 2: The knicks i'll, Say this i'm excited to see what

2344
01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:32,400
Speaker 2: the City of indianapolis is Like post indy five hundred

2345
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 2: If the pacers Get a game, THREE win i don't

2346
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:37,560
Speaker 2: think it'll be quite msg after they advance To The Eastern.

2347
01:58:37,600 --> 01:58:40,240
Speaker 2: Conference finals i'll Take the knicks to win, this ONE

2348
01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:42,360
Speaker 2: but i Think the pacers have proven through two games

2349
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 2: that they are in fact the.

2350
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:46,040
Speaker 3: Better, TEAM yeah I mean i think as, A team

2351
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 3: i think that's. ABSOLUTELY right i just want To see

2352
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:50,000
Speaker 3: i'm most curious to see what they do with, the

2353
01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:53,920
Speaker 3: Lineups what thibodeaux does with the lineups in, this game,

2354
01:58:54,640 --> 01:58:57,520
Speaker 3: and yeah the season is clearly on. The line my

2355
01:58:57,600 --> 01:58:59,480
Speaker 3: only question is how much gas is in the tank

2356
01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:01,520
Speaker 3: right Now, The knicks they've played a whole lot of

2357
01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:04,800
Speaker 3: minutes to lose both. Those games and my argument was

2358
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:07,920
Speaker 3: those losses hurt a. Lot worse that makes you a lot.

2359
01:59:07,960 --> 01:59:10,080
Speaker 3: MORE exhausted i bet they are going to be a

2360
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:13,560
Speaker 3: lot more tired than are the pacers in. This one

2361
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:16,920
Speaker 3: tired is the Connection. In vegas so we're gonna give it.

2362
01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 3: A Rest bernie ferido is coming. Up next, All, right

2363
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 3: aaron enjoy, The games enjoy the rest of, the weekend.

2364
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 3: My friend we will turn it Over, to bernie and

2365
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:27,520
Speaker 3: we will hope we'll be able to Hear from bernie

2366
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:29,840
Speaker 3: over the next. Four hours he's gonna have take after take,

2367
01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 3: after take fire. Them off we'll see you next week

2368
01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:33,520
Speaker 3: Here On Fox. Sports radio