WEBVTT - Hell and Gone Murder Line: Cassie Compton [From the Archives] 

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<v Speaker 1>School of Humans. Helen Got Murder Line actively investigates cold

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<v Speaker 2>Talkab Catherine look into the disappearance of Patty Tompson in

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<v Speaker 2>the city of Stuttgard, Arkansaw about ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Take on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Evening of Sunday, September fourteenth, twenty fourteen, fifteen year old

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie K. Compton went out for a pack of cigarettes

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<v Speaker 2>down the road from her house in Stuttgart, Arkansas and

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<v Speaker 2>never came home.

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<v Speaker 3>At least that's the official story.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of those Arkansas cold cases that have

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<v Speaker 2>become legendary, one of those stories that had been covered

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<v Speaker 2>tons of times, and yet almost ten years later, we

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<v Speaker 2>have no arrests and no answers. We do know a

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<v Speaker 2>few things for sure. Cassie had been spending the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>with a male friend of hers named Hunter. They went

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<v Speaker 2>with his family to an auto demolition Derby and de Witt,

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<v Speaker 2>which is about forty miles away. They had a great

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<v Speaker 2>time hanging out, and then Cassie went back to Hunter's

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<v Speaker 2>house and slept there on Saturday night. Tracy Snyder, Hunter's mother,

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<v Speaker 2>has said that this was not out of the ordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, Cassie spent a lot of time at their

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<v Speaker 2>house because Tracy said things were chaotic at Cassie's house.

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<v Speaker 2>Tracy said that her house had become a sort of

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<v Speaker 2>refuge for Cassie. Hunter drove Cassie home on Sunday evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Shortly after that, Cassie texted Hunter to say she was

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<v Speaker 2>going out to get some cigarettes. Then Cassie, who was

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<v Speaker 2>described in her missing posters as petite, around five foot three,

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<v Speaker 2>weighing around one hundred pounds, with blue eyes and blonde hair,

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<v Speaker 2>apparently walked down the road and never came back. I

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<v Speaker 2>have found a lot of new information about a murder

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<v Speaker 2>for higher plot A man posing as a woman, sex

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<v Speaker 2>crimes and cover ups that made me see the police's

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<v Speaker 2>main person of interest.

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<v Speaker 3>In a whole new light.

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<v Speaker 2>What really happened to Cassie Compton and what was she

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<v Speaker 2>running from at home?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Catherine Townsend.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a case you'd like me and my

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<v Speaker 2>team to look into, you can reach out to us

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<v Speaker 2>at our Helen Gone Murder line at six seven eight

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<v Speaker 2>seven four four, six one four or five. That's six

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<v Speaker 2>seven eight seven four four six, one four or five.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Helen Gone Line. So we need to take

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<v Speaker 2>a step back to understand what was going on in

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie Compton's life. Cassie k Compton was born in Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 2>After her mother, Judy Compton Kimsey, was divorced from Cassie's father,

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<v Speaker 2>Roy in two thousand, Cassie and her mother moved from

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma back to Arkansas. And there's no way to sugarcoat this.

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<v Speaker 2>Both Cassie's mother, Judy and her father Roy were registered

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<v Speaker 2>sex offenders, though Judy's name had been removed from that

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<v Speaker 2>list after fifteen years of good behavior. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get more into those charges later, but for now we'll

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<v Speaker 2>say that Roy was convicted of inappropriate sexual contact with

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<v Speaker 2>a miner, lud acts with a child, and indecent proposals

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<v Speaker 2>to a miner back in Oklahoma. According to multiple sources,

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<v Speaker 2>that miner was Judy's older daughter from her previous marriage,

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<v Speaker 2>so his own stepdaughter, Roy was sentenced to twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>years in prison for that abuse. In Stuttgart, Cassie was

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<v Speaker 2>homeschooled and working to get her ged. Her friend said

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<v Speaker 2>she was kind and funny, except when she was troubled,

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<v Speaker 2>which had become a little more frequent in the time

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<v Speaker 2>period before she disappeared. Her friend said when she was

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<v Speaker 2>troubled she could get a little quiet. There was someone

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<v Speaker 2>else in the home, Judy's fiance, twenty four year old

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon Lee Rhodes. Now a lot of people pointed out

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<v Speaker 2>that the age difference between Brandon and Cassie was actually

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<v Speaker 2>less than it was between Brandon and Judy, who.

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<v Speaker 3>Was forty two.

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<v Speaker 2>As we said that weekend, Cassie had been spending time

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<v Speaker 2>with Hunter Snyder and his family. On Saturday, September thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter's mom, Tracy, said her son had picked Cassie up

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<v Speaker 2>at her house at around one pm.

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<v Speaker 3>That night.

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<v Speaker 2>They all went out to the auto Derby. They had

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<v Speaker 2>fun and then Cassie spent the night at the Snyder house.

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<v Speaker 2>The next day, September fourteenth, Cassie hung out at Hunter's.

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<v Speaker 2>They had brunch with his family, then later Hunter drove

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie home. Hunter and Cassie left his house at around

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<v Speaker 2>six oh five pm. Her house was around a fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>or twenty minute drive away, so that would put them

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<v Speaker 2>there at Cassie's house between six twenty and six twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five pm. According to Tracy, when Hunter and Cassie pulled

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<v Speaker 2>up to the house and Cassie got out of the car,

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter said that he saw Brandon Rhodes outside, but he

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<v Speaker 2>said he did not see Brandon speak to Cassie. The

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<v Speaker 2>last thing he saw was Cassie walking up the driveway

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<v Speaker 2>straight into the house. Hunter got home at around six

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<v Speaker 2>forty five pm. According to his mom, Cassie sent a

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<v Speaker 2>text to Hunter at around seven or seven fifteen pm

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<v Speaker 2>saying she was going out.

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<v Speaker 3>To get a pack of cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the last text that was ever sent from

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie's phone. Judy, who was on disability and sometimes took

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<v Speaker 2>pain medications, later said when Cassie came home she was

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<v Speaker 2>sick in her bedroom, which was in the back of

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<v Speaker 2>the house. She said she heard Cassie moving around and

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<v Speaker 2>said hey, baby girl to Cassie through the door, but

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<v Speaker 2>Judy said she didn't actually ever see Cassie. Brandon told

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<v Speaker 2>police Cassie was only at the house for about five

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<v Speaker 2>minutes before going out again. When she walked out the door,

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie apparently had her black LG smartphone with her, but

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<v Speaker 2>no charger for the phone. Hunter's mom, Tracy, said she

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<v Speaker 2>got three calls from Brandon that night. On the first call,

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<v Speaker 2>at nine to fourteen PM, said, Brandon asked if Cassie

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<v Speaker 2>was still there, I guess, meaning still with them. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this is weird because Hunter said clearly Brandon saw Cassie

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<v Speaker 2>when they pulled up to that house. Also, both Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>and Judy told investigators that they had seen or at

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<v Speaker 2>least heard Cassie at home. Hunter lived kind of far

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<v Speaker 2>out it was not walkable, so why would Brandon be

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<v Speaker 2>asking if she was still with them when he knew

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie had been dropped off. Tracy said she told Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>to call the police, and after he'd called back a

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<v Speaker 2>couple times, Brandon told her that he had done that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Brandon did not have her driver's license, so he

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<v Speaker 2>had a bike that he would ride around everywhere. He

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<v Speaker 2>told Tracy that he'd ridden his bike to the police

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<v Speaker 2>station to report Cassie missing, but he said police told

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<v Speaker 2>him he had to wait seventy two hours. Tracy called

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<v Speaker 2>the police the next morning. She said that she talked

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<v Speaker 2>to a detective and they told her that was not true.

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<v Speaker 2>They said no one had made a police report the

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<v Speaker 2>night before. On that next morning, which would be Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>September fifteenth, Judy saw that Cassie was not in her bedroom.

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<v Speaker 2>She started texting and calling Cassie, but got no response

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<v Speaker 2>and the calls went straight to voicemail. Judy called Cassie's friends,

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<v Speaker 2>but no one had seen her, so Judy called the police. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>through a Foyer request, the Stuttgart Police did release the

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<v Speaker 2>original incident report. Judy's name is on it, so it

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<v Speaker 2>can be confirmed Judy reported Cassie missing on Monday, September

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<v Speaker 2>fifteenth at nine fifty two am. Brandon's name was not

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<v Speaker 2>on that report. According to that report, Judy told police

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<v Speaker 2>that Cassie had a possible mental disorder and may have

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<v Speaker 2>been bipolar. She said Cassie had been prescribed and a

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<v Speaker 2>depressants in the past, but she said she would flush

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<v Speaker 2>them because she didn't like taking them. Judy told police

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<v Speaker 2>if Cassie's mood swings got bad, that Cassie would sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>go out for a walk. In that report, Judy said

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<v Speaker 2>that she heard Cassie come in and heard her change

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<v Speaker 2>and leave from the back bedroom. Judy also gave a

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<v Speaker 2>description of what Cassie was wearing. She said she had

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<v Speaker 2>on a blue spaghetti strap top, black and white plaid shorts,

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<v Speaker 2>blue and gray cowboy boots with a two to three

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<v Speaker 2>inch heel, but later Judy clarified She said she based

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<v Speaker 2>that on the clothes that were missing out of Cassie's closet,

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<v Speaker 2>because again, she was in the bedroom the whole time.

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<v Speaker 3>She never physically saw.

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<v Speaker 2>Her daughter, and it didn't take police long to see

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<v Speaker 2>that Brandon and Judy's stories had a few discrepancies. Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>and Judy first told investigators that Brandon was cooking in

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<v Speaker 2>the kitchen when Cassie came home. He said he'd been

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<v Speaker 2>cooking breakfast for dinner. He said he saw Cassie briefly,

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<v Speaker 2>but that Judy did not see her at all. Later,

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<v Speaker 2>another story came out. Judy told Tina Stores, a private

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<v Speaker 2>investigator who looked into the case, and some other people

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<v Speaker 2>that Brandon went out for cigarettes on Sunday night also,

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<v Speaker 2>and that Brandon was gone for quite some time, and

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<v Speaker 2>that when he did come back, he spent a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>like an hour in the bathroom vomiting. Remember, Brandon did

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<v Speaker 2>not have a driver's license, but he had been known

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<v Speaker 2>to take Judy's.

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<v Speaker 3>Car in the past, especially if she was sleeping.

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<v Speaker 2>And him going for cigarettes in Judy's car at around

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<v Speaker 2>the same time Cassie said she was going out for

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<v Speaker 2>cigarettes seems like a big coincidence. It seems reasonable to

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<v Speaker 2>wonder could they have gone together or could Cassie have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten into the car with him. Also, Brandon is saying

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<v Speaker 2>that he somehow had time to cook dinner, get in

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<v Speaker 2>his car, buy cigarettes, then ride his bike to the

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<v Speaker 2>police station to report someone missing, and have a vomiting spell,

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<v Speaker 2>all in the two hour period before nine to fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>when he called Tracy. In twenty nineteen, Kayla Lafferty, a

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<v Speaker 2>reporter from KTV Channel seven, did a podcast called Timeline

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<v Speaker 2>the Disappearance of Cassie Compton, and in that podcast, she

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<v Speaker 2>talked to a friend of Judy's who said Judy told

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<v Speaker 2>them that both she and Brandon were given Lie detector

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<v Speaker 2>tests and that both of them had failed. This friend

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<v Speaker 2>said Judy told her that she thought she failed her

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<v Speaker 2>Lie detector test because she was taking pain medications at

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<v Speaker 2>the time. At first, it did seem like police were

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<v Speaker 2>treating Cassie as a runaway, and they've admitted this publicly.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuttgart Police Chief Mark Duke said, quote, you think, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>she's mad, she left, We'll find her, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>went sideways from there end quote. Police also said on

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<v Speaker 2>the record they formed this assumption based on what they

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<v Speaker 2>heard from family members and other people close to Cassie,

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<v Speaker 2>but no one saw Cassie on that road after she

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<v Speaker 2>left her house.

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<v Speaker 3>She was never seen again in any.

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<v Speaker 2>Verified sighting, even though there were a lot of tips

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<v Speaker 2>called in. People reported seeing her everywhere from Walmart to

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<v Speaker 2>random highways.

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<v Speaker 3>None of those young women was Cassie.

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<v Speaker 2>On a October third, twenty fifteen, two and a half

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<v Speaker 2>weeks after Cassie went missing, police took Brandon and Judy's phones. Then,

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<v Speaker 2>shortly after detectives left their home, a house fire started.

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<v Speaker 2>The small house fire at Brandon and Judy's residence was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty quickly put out, but the timing was bizarre. By

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<v Speaker 2>late fall, the investigation seemed stalled. Police were still saying

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<v Speaker 2>the only official people of interest were Judy and Brandon,

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<v Speaker 2>but some strange things were happening on social media. For

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<v Speaker 2>one thing, Cassie's personal Facebook page liked the missing page

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<v Speaker 2>for Cassie, and law enforcement stated that more than one

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<v Speaker 2>person had access Cassie's personal Facebook page also that fall.

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<v Speaker 2>Starting around September twenty fifth, police and the FBI started

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<v Speaker 2>searching the area that began around the Stuttgard airport. They

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<v Speaker 2>were looking into reservoirs, riverbanks, under bridges, all kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>hiding place near Cassie's home. According to the website find

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie Compton, the police were considering the theory that someone

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<v Speaker 2>could have transported Cassie's remains walking or by bicycle, possibly

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<v Speaker 2>in pieces. They looked for rolled up rugs or garbage bags,

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<v Speaker 2>but they found nothing. Judy and Brandon started talking to

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<v Speaker 2>the media. Actually Judy did most of the talking, but

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<v Speaker 2>when Brandon spoke, he said this.

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<v Speaker 3>She was gone, like I whispering to win that.

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<v Speaker 2>I found his wording a bit strange. How does a

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen year old vanish into thin air like that? Now

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<v Speaker 2>this was late summer, so even though sunset was around

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<v Speaker 2>seven to twelve pm, it would not have been fully

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<v Speaker 2>dark until half an hour or so later. And yet

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<v Speaker 2>not one person saw Cassie after she left her house.

0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.160
<v Speaker 2>There were a few theories about what could have happened

0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.680
<v Speaker 2>to her. Some people believe she could have been kidnapped,

0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:48.240
<v Speaker 2>either by strangers or by someone she knew, or possibly

0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.880
<v Speaker 2>she was sex trafficked. Maybe going out for cigarettes was

0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:55.400
<v Speaker 2>code for something, Maybe Cassie had plans to run away,

0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.280
<v Speaker 2>or maybe something else happened to Cassie in that house

0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:06.520
<v Speaker 2>and she never made it past the driveway for other reasons. Then,

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<v Speaker 2>a few weeks after Cassie went missing, Judy and.

0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:10.280
<v Speaker 3>Brandon broke up.

0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Judy told Channel seven quote, I believe Cassie would come

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<v Speaker 2>back if she knew he was not in the picture

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<v Speaker 2>end quote. She mentioned that Cassie and Brandon had not

0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:24.400
<v Speaker 2>gotten along. After she kicked Brandon out, he started living

0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.120
<v Speaker 2>on the streets. He was arrested for squatting at a

0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:30.840
<v Speaker 2>property and given a hundred day jail sentence. The Stuttgart

0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.960
<v Speaker 2>police department started working with the FBI and the state Police.

0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Judy announced one thousand dollars reward for any information that

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<v Speaker 2>would help lead to her daughter. Then in October, police

0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.960
<v Speaker 2>found something under the Biome Metro Bridge about fifteen miles

0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.920
<v Speaker 2>from Casco on the White River. This was near the

0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:53.840
<v Speaker 2>place where Cassie's cell phone had last pinned. Police reportedly

0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.560
<v Speaker 2>found objects that included a gatorade bottle, two men's shirts,

0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:03.160
<v Speaker 2>men's toiletries including shaving cream, folded drapes, a girl's Hugs

0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:07.160
<v Speaker 2>and Kisses, sweater, a Teddy Bear in two bags. To

0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.680
<v Speaker 2>my knowledge, police have never confirmed if those items belonged

0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.200
<v Speaker 2>to Brandon Roads, but a lot of people thought that

0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:16.920
<v Speaker 2>the shaving cream might have some significance because Brandon normally

0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.440
<v Speaker 2>had a beard, and when he was arrested a few

0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.640
<v Speaker 2>days after this stuff was found on unrelated charges, he

0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.040
<v Speaker 2>was clean shaven, so by now a lot of people

0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:27.400
<v Speaker 2>in the community.

0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:28.800
<v Speaker 3>Were fixated on Brandon Roads.

0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Police said the same thing they often say in these investigations,

0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.680
<v Speaker 2>that Brandon and Gudi were people of interest, but no

0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:37.840
<v Speaker 2>one was arrested a charge, and they said no one

0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:48.480
<v Speaker 2>could be ruled out, neither Brandon nor Judy have ever

0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:52.840
<v Speaker 2>been charged in connection with Cassie's disappearance. Over the years,

0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Judy's opinion of whether or not Brandon could have been

0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:59.480
<v Speaker 2>involved seemed to shift, at least publicly. In November of

0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:03.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen, Judy talked to a reporter from ABC Channel

0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:07.400
<v Speaker 2>seven about her relationship with Brandon. She said Brandon could

0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.600
<v Speaker 2>be controlling. For example, she said he would always pick

0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:12.760
<v Speaker 2>up the phone and interrupt her when she was talking

0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:16.800
<v Speaker 2>to law enforcement. Judy also talked about her past and

0:17:17.120 --> 0:17:19.440
<v Speaker 2>about the incident that led to her being on the

0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:24.040
<v Speaker 2>sex offender list in Oklahoma. According to court documents, Judy

0:17:24.120 --> 0:17:27.240
<v Speaker 2>was found guilty in Marshall County, Oklahoma, of permitting abuse

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<v Speaker 2>or neglect.

0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:29.280
<v Speaker 3>In November of nineteen ninety.

0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Eight, Judy told the reporter that Roy, her ex husband,

0:17:33.360 --> 0:17:36.960
<v Speaker 2>had assaulted her daughter. She said that she was charged

0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:40.640
<v Speaker 2>with failure to protect her child and basically forced to

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<v Speaker 2>take a plead.

0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Judy told Channel seven.

0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.920
<v Speaker 2>My ex husband was messing with my oldest daughter, and

0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.040
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know anything about it. Then my oldest daughter

0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.360
<v Speaker 2>told my mother end quote.

0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:55.160
<v Speaker 3>But I went through.

0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Those court documents and I saw that not only was

0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Judy put on the sex Offender Registry. She was also

0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.520
<v Speaker 2>given a five year suspended sentence in connection with that case.

0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Yet when she talked with the reporter, she kind of

0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.480
<v Speaker 2>made it sound, in my opinion, like something that happened

0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:16.560
<v Speaker 2>to her rather than something she was complicit in. I

0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.480
<v Speaker 2>found out even more details about these charges, and this

0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:20.640
<v Speaker 2>case was dark.

0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.520
<v Speaker 3>Roy was charged with leude molestation. In this case.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the court records, the child was traumatized and

0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:33.120
<v Speaker 2>wanted to give video evidence rather than face Roy in court,

0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:36.840
<v Speaker 2>which the court allowed. Roy was given a twenty three

0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.960
<v Speaker 2>year prison sentence according to the records I found. By

0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:43.080
<v Speaker 2>the way, Roy was in prison when Cassie went missing

0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:44.920
<v Speaker 2>and still appears to be incarcerated.

0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Does this past.

0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Behavior mean that Judy knew anything about what happened to Cassie. No,

0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.840
<v Speaker 2>But in my opinion, it does show that she appears

0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:59.760
<v Speaker 2>to be capable of minimizing abuse inside the home, and

0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:06.600
<v Speaker 2>that worries me. After Cassie disappeared, Judy had to deal

0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:11.120
<v Speaker 2>with multiple heartbreaks over the years, including one cruel person

0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:15.480
<v Speaker 2>who actually impersonated Cassie and pretended that she was alive

0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:16.760
<v Speaker 2>and wanted to talk to Judy.

0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:18.600
<v Speaker 3>I cannot even imagine what that must have been like.

0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Cassie's disappearance made local and national news, but there were

0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:27.320
<v Speaker 2>no arrests. In addition to Brandon, because this was a

0:19:27.360 --> 0:19:30.320
<v Speaker 2>fifteen year old girl, police also looked into other young

0:19:30.360 --> 0:19:33.960
<v Speaker 2>men who Cassie had been talking to. On September seventh,

0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:38.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen, there was a post on Cassie's Facebook page,

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<v Speaker 2>actually her last post, in which she wrote, quote, let's

0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:45.120
<v Speaker 2>get one thing straight. I was not with Dustin, okay,

0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:48.320
<v Speaker 2>and she mentions a last name as well, which we're

0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.280
<v Speaker 2>not going to mention. So a lot of people were

0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:55.880
<v Speaker 2>asking Dustin about this. So underneath her comment he replied

0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.240
<v Speaker 2>and said he and Cassie were never together.

0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:00.600
<v Speaker 3>He was a little older, I think, so.

0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:04.360
<v Speaker 2>I can imagine him getting nervous if a miner went missing. Anyway,

0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:09.720
<v Speaker 2>police apparently followed that lead and ruled Dustin out. Things

0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:13.160
<v Speaker 2>kept coming back to the home, back to Brandon Rhads.

0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:15.960
<v Speaker 2>One of the things I found most frustrating about this

0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:19.120
<v Speaker 2>case is that over the years we've heard a lot

0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:23.120
<v Speaker 2>about Brandon Rhodes, so many rumors, so few concrete backs.

0:20:24.360 --> 0:20:26.560
<v Speaker 2>He continued to get into trouble with the law after

0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:30.960
<v Speaker 2>splitting from Judy. In twenty fifteen, Brandon was arrested on

0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:36.520
<v Speaker 2>drug charges, including possession of a controlled substance methamphetamines. After

0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.080
<v Speaker 2>pleading guilty, he was sentenced to two years in prison.

0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Then a couple of years later, he was arrested again.

0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:46.800
<v Speaker 2>This time it had nothing to do with Cassie Compton.

0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:51.840
<v Speaker 2>On October sixteenth, twenty eighteen, Brandon was stopped by police

0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.360
<v Speaker 2>in Pleasant Plains, Arkansas. They saw that Brandon was driving

0:20:55.360 --> 0:20:57.960
<v Speaker 2>on a suspended license, so they arrested him.

0:20:58.400 --> 0:20:59.680
<v Speaker 3>The officers searched the.

0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Car and they found a loaded AR fifteen assault rifle

0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:07.360
<v Speaker 2>with a red scope and a lot of other tactical gear. Later,

0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:11.400
<v Speaker 2>police determined that that weapon had been reported stolen. They

0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:15.440
<v Speaker 2>got information that Brandon had been paid several hundred dollars

0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.960
<v Speaker 2>to kill the wife of one of his acquaintances, so

0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:22.840
<v Speaker 2>they brought Brandon up on capital murder charges. I wanted

0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:25.560
<v Speaker 2>to understand more about this, so I looked into the

0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:30.200
<v Speaker 2>court documents. Brandon had a different story. He said he

0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:33.600
<v Speaker 2>didn't remember anything from the night before. Later he changed

0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:35.880
<v Speaker 2>his story and said yes, he was in Batesville to

0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:39.000
<v Speaker 2>follow someone. He said that a man had paid him

0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.800
<v Speaker 2>two hundred dollars to follow around this man's wife, so

0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Brandon was out acting as kind of an unofficial private investigator.

0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Brandon also said he had no idea he had a

0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.680
<v Speaker 2>stolen gun in his truck, but the guy who reported

0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:55.120
<v Speaker 2>the gun stolen said Brandon was at his residence the

0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:58.080
<v Speaker 2>night before the next morning, Brandon and the gun were gone,

0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.400
<v Speaker 2>so it didn't take Charlock Holmes to figure out who

0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:07.640
<v Speaker 2>took that weapon. Again, there's been almost nothing reported about

0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Brandon's background.

0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:10.680
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to know who he really is.

0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.800
<v Speaker 2>So I found buried in a lot of different court

0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:17.520
<v Speaker 2>documents related to his arrest, the forensic reports that were done,

0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:22.120
<v Speaker 2>and they had a lot of very interesting information. Actually,

0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I think we learn a lot more about Brandon Rhodes

0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.720
<v Speaker 2>from these documents than we have in any of the

0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:31.640
<v Speaker 2>interviews that he's done. According to court documents, Brandon was

0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:34.880
<v Speaker 2>born in Little Rock. He grew up with his mother, grandmother,

0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 2>and younger brother in Greenbrier, Arkansas, but he said they

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:41.840
<v Speaker 2>moved around a lot to several different states. He told

0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:44.080
<v Speaker 2>the Examiner that he had a stepfather in a life

0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:47.440
<v Speaker 2>as well, who was in a motorcycle gang. Brandon said

0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:50.920
<v Speaker 2>his stepfather physically and sexually abused him between the ages

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:54.520
<v Speaker 2>of seven and nineteen years old. He said that from

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.440
<v Speaker 2>a young age he was abused. He said he was

0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:01.000
<v Speaker 2>abused with fists, a board, an electrical cord, He was

0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:04.520
<v Speaker 2>thrown across the room, and when things got too difficult

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.480
<v Speaker 2>at home, he would escape to the woods. Sometimes he

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 2>would sleep outside. He went to school in Mount Vernon

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:14.360
<v Speaker 2>and Stuttgart High School, but he was expelled several times

0:23:14.360 --> 0:23:17.480
<v Speaker 2>for having an explosive temper. He said he stopped going

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:20.560
<v Speaker 2>to school in ninth grade and went to work. Brandon

0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 2>said when he was seventeen, he went to meet the

0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:26.760
<v Speaker 2>man he believed was his biological father, but later a

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:29.760
<v Speaker 2>DNA test showed that that man was not his father,

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:32.960
<v Speaker 2>which I can imagine must have been crushing for him.

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:36.360
<v Speaker 2>He also said he had been smoking pot around three

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:38.120
<v Speaker 2>times a day for as long as he could remember.

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:41.440
<v Speaker 2>He said he developed a meth habit in high school.

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:44.360
<v Speaker 2>At first, like a lot of people, he said, he

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 2>started taking it to keep him awake at work. Brandon

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:50.960
<v Speaker 2>worked several different jobs. He worked at lumber one in Stuttgart,

0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:53.560
<v Speaker 2>but he got fired from that job. Later, he did

0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:56.880
<v Speaker 2>some landscaping and worked for a company and DeWitt fabricating

0:23:56.920 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 2>metal for farming equipment. By twenty eleven, Brandon was on

0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:04.920
<v Speaker 2>his own. He was living in abandoned houses for a

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 2>few weeks at a time. That's when he got into

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 2>a relationship with Judy and he moved in with her

0:24:10.360 --> 0:24:13.320
<v Speaker 2>and Cassie and Stuttgart. Now, if you look at his

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:16.680
<v Speaker 2>old Facebook posts, which have been inactive for a long time,

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:19.680
<v Speaker 2>this seems to have been a happy time for him.

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 3>At least on social media.

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:25.240
<v Speaker 2>Judy is his cover photo the whole Thing, and he

0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 2>has a post there saying that Judy baptized him.

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 3>In twenty fourteen.

0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 2>In this interview with the psychiatrist, Brandon discussed his criminal history.

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:38.440
<v Speaker 2>He told the Examiner about Judy and Cassie and said, quote,

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I would not be surprised if someone is trying to

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 2>kill me because they believe I killed her daughter and

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:50.400
<v Speaker 2>buried her somewhere. I don't have time to go through

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:54.440
<v Speaker 2>the entire case, but the case, by the way, is wild.

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Police were trying to figure out which story to believe

0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:01.920
<v Speaker 2>what was going on here. They found text messages between

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Brandon and the man who allegedly hired him to follow

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:09.120
<v Speaker 2>his wife. In those texts, they were discussing the fact

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 2>that this woman was allegedly cheating on her husband with

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 2>another man, a love rival. So at first Brandon and

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:18.400
<v Speaker 2>the husband talk about beating up the other love rival.

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:20.360
<v Speaker 3>Then Brandon was.

0:25:20.360 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Apparently planning to plant drugs on this love rival. Later,

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Brandon and the husband also talked about just killing the wife.

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 2>The whole time, Brandon was saying he's obsessed with the

0:25:32.360 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 2>punisher Frank Castle from the comic books. For those who

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 2>haven't read it, He's the vigilanti who tortures bad guys

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:44.680
<v Speaker 2>and has a very twisted view of dispensing justice. Police

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 2>interviewed the wife whom Brandon followed. She talked about how

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 2>her husband had paid someone to stock her, how she'd

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 2>seen a white truck the type that Brandon drove around.

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Police also found evidence that Brandon called this woman and

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:01.160
<v Speaker 2>pretended to be a woman, and that in that phone

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:04.680
<v Speaker 2>conversation he told her that she was a mother who

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:08.360
<v Speaker 2>needed to be taking care of her kids. This gets

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 2>even deeper. Brandon told police he had gender dysphoria. When

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 2>they arrested him, he was wearing fake breasts and a

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 2>sports brath and there are a lot of text messages

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 2>in these documents where Brandon was talking to this love rival,

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 2>and in these texts he was pretending to be a

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 2>woman and trying to entice this man into doing some

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 2>very sexually graphic things. It seems to me from these

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 2>police interviews that Brandon sees himself as a violent, anti

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:43.400
<v Speaker 2>hero vigilante. He also said he was never close to

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 2>his mother. He later told police he did not like women.

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 2>And yet it's complicated because according to his behavior, it

0:26:51.360 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 2>seems like he's also in many ways presenting as a woman.

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 3>The case continued to get more and more bizarre.

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Then in early twenty twenty one, there was another very

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 2>strange incident.

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>In early twenty twenty one, a video of a woman

0:27:18.360 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 2>on TikTok and other social media started making the rounds.

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 2>This woman had black hair and two black eyes and

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 2>was in the car with a couple of guys who

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 2>were rapping.

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 3>The whole time.

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 2>She was just looking forward with this kind of dead stare.

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 2>This woman looked identical to Cassie Compton. People believe this

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 2>could be her. This brought new life into rumors that

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Cassie could have run away on her own. The video

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 2>went viral and people started posting about a missing person's

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 2>case that was solved by TikTok.

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 3>The FBI Little Rock Office.

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Confirmed that they were looking into who this mystery woman was,

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 2>but sadly, this was not Cassie. The woman was later

0:27:58.120 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 2>identified as Hailey Grace Phillips. She was a young woman

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 2>from Los Angeles who actually made her own video to

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 2>say she was not Cassie Compton. She said she'd recently

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 2>been mugged, that's why she had black eyes, but she

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 2>was fine and safe.

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Another dead end.

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Back to twenty nineteen, Kyla Lafferty is doing her podcast

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 2>called Timeline the Disappearance of Cassie Compton. She ended up

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 2>interviewing Brandon Rhodes at the Independence County Jail. By the way,

0:28:28.120 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Kayla was not able to record the interview with Brandon,

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 2>but she did record her thoughts Immediately afterwards, She said

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 2>she asked Brandon what he thought had happened to Cassie.

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 2>She said Brandon told her that he believed the text

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 2>that Cassie sent that text to her friend Hunter about

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 2>cigarettes with some kind of code. He believed that she

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 2>had been waiting for someone and that she got picked

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 2>up and never made it out of the driveway. Cayla

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 2>said that Brandon told her that Judy was sick, and

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 2>that when Cassie came home from Hunter's house, he said

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 2>he was in the bedroom with Judy. So now he

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 2>seemed to be saying that he never saw Cassie. Now,

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 2>this totally contradicts what Judy has said in the past

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 2>about Brandon being in the kitchen cooking, and it contradicts

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 2>what he himself has said in the past. He said

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 2>he saw Cassie. She came in, she was there for

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 2>a few minutes, and she left. By the way, that's

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 2>also a different story than Hunter tells, because remember Hunter

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 2>said that when he and Cassie pulled up, Brandon was

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 2>outside and saw Cassie going into the house. Cayla said, quote,

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 2>he was talking about how people think he's a psychopath.

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>He asked me what I think makes a psychopath. He

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 2>was going on and on about how it's pain that

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 2>creates a psychopath. I then asked him, are you a

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 2>sociopath or a psychopath?

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 3>He was like, what, No, But the.

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Whole time he was staring me dead in the eye,

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 2>trying to intimidate me into believing he's a psychopath, I

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 2>think end quote. She also asked him about these very

0:29:56.840 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 2>strange murder for higher charges, and he told her a

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 2>version of what he told the police, that he was

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>paid a few hundred dollars, but that actually he was

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 2>just posing as a hitman and the reason he was

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 2>doing that was so that he could work under cover

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 2>and be sent to prison on purpose, so that he

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 2>could work on Cassie's case from the inside. Kayla also

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 2>said Brandon told her that a psychologist had diagnosed him

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 2>with multiple personality disorder. So, in my opinion, interactions with

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 2>law enforcement and Brandon show a picture of someone who

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 2>is clearly disturbed and.

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Does have some issues.

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 2>But I want to go back to the court documents,

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 2>and I want to go back to what the trained professional,

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 2>the forensic examiner found, because the examiner who did a

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 2>clinical interview with Brandon and found nothing like that, no

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 2>mental disease or defect, no depression or anxiety. They found

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Brandon was competent to stand trial, No multiple personality disorder

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 2>or suicidal ideation. They did notice that Brandon's speech was

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 2>low volume and slow rate, but they said that did

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>not indicate any type of mental deficiency. On the contrary,

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>they found he had very good short term and long

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 2>term memory. Brandon said something to the examiner that I

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 2>think is very telling. He said, quote, I am a

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 2>violent person, very volatile, but I know when I can

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 2>or can't be violent depending on situations. Here at the

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 2>doctor's office or court is not a situation where you

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 2>can be violent end quote. To me, this signifies that

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 2>he understands exactly what was going on.

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 3>So what's next for Cassie's case.

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Some people in Judy's family, including her son Chris, have

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 2>said they still believe that Brandon may have been involved.

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 2>When Judy last talked to media, she said that she

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 2>no longer believes that Brandon could have harmed Cassie. Judy

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 2>has said, quote, he looked at her like his daughter,

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, and if he did, it would be shocking

0:31:57.680 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 2>to me.

0:31:58.320 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 3>End quote.

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 2>But based on Judy's past some of these patterns, we

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 2>can deduce that even in the most generous and best

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 2>case scenario, she is not always the best judge of character.

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 2>And we already know that Brandon's a liar and by

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 2>his own admissions, has some very disturbing thoughts and complicated feelings.

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 3>About women.

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>So now we're left with this suspicious behavior, stories that

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 2>don't match. But as far as I know, no physical evidence.

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Finding Cassie's remains would be a major break in the case.

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many of y'all remember those topics threads.

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 2>I know the site has been shut down for a

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 2>long time now, but people still have screenshots from the

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 2>old days where people were talked talking about rumors on there.

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Some people have made the point that Brandon was into

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 2>prepping and that he.

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Would know where to hide a body. He actually said in.

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 2>His police interview that he was very into prepping and

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 2>talked about that a lot. Maybe there's a clue there somewhere.

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>If Brandon did do something to Cassie, if he did

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 2>kill her, where would he put her body? How would

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 2>a prepper handle this situation? Did he use his bike

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 2>or could he have used Judy's car or another vehicle.

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 3>That we don't know about.

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Brandon, who was always completely denied any involvement in Cassie's disappearance,

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 2>is now out of prison.

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 3>Brandon seems to paint.

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Himself in his interviews as the victim of circumstances. But

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 2>we're about to hear about the other side of Brandon Rhodes,

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 2>this time from one of his victims. As usual, I

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 2>found the answer I was looking for buried in some

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 2>otherwise boring court documents that, to my knowledge, no one

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 2>has ever talked about. In twenty twenty three, a woman

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>asked for an order of protection against Brandon. Now this

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 2>is public information, but out of respect and concern for

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 2>this victim, I'm not going to make her name public.

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling this story because I believe it is very

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 2>important and potentially very relevant. Here's what she wrote in

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 2>her own words in twenty twenty three. I'm just going

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 2>to read an excerpt here, not the whole thing. This

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 2>victim said that Brandon has tackled her to the floor

0:34:15.720 --> 0:34:18.720
<v Speaker 2>multiple times, that he has called her names, that he

0:34:18.720 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 2>would scream at her, call her a bitch and a

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 2>cunt and a whore. She said he has sexually assaulted her,

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 2>that he has put her in a chokehold. She wrote, quote,

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.320
<v Speaker 2>He's told me about his two people inside his head,

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:34.320
<v Speaker 2>chaos and insanity, and has brought them out to meet

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 2>me and belittle me. Brandon told me when we first

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:39.280
<v Speaker 2>got together that has ex abused him and that he

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.760
<v Speaker 2>was getting in trouble for nothing. None of this was true.

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Brandon has major anger issues. He's a time bomb. He

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:50.360
<v Speaker 2>was arrested on domestic battery from his previous relationship where

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 2>he did the same things to her. I am scared

0:34:53.240 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 2>for my life if he gets out tomorrow and comes

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 2>to the apartment. I'm having neck and back and shoulder

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 2>and down into my arm searing pain.

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 3>From the abuse.

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I can provide documents and photos of bruises. He also

0:35:06.240 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 2>forced me to put my Facebook messenger in snapchat on

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 2>his phone. He has searched me online and paid for it,

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 2>getting all my info. I am scared to death. When

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 2>he gets out and finds out I'm doing all this,

0:35:19.240 --> 0:35:23.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll be dead end quote. The order of protection was granted.

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I have no desire to publicize someone's private life like this,

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 2>but at the same time, I feel a responsibility to

0:35:30.720 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 2>this victim because this man is out there, and if

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 2>something does happen to this woman, I want the man

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 2>who's abusing her to know that a massive audience of

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 2>people know what is going on, and that these lists

0:35:43.720 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 2>steners care about what's happening and will report it immediately

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 2>to law enforcement. Something that does jump out to me

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 2>immediately when I read this. Other than the sheer horror

0:35:54.720 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 2>of this statement is the fact that this woman said

0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:01.440
<v Speaker 2>something really interesting. She said Brandon forced her to have

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.720
<v Speaker 2>her social media on his phone, that he stalked her

0:36:04.720 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 2>social media, so we know that he's savvy with social media.

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 2>I wonder about that because we know that a few

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 2>days after Cassie went missing, her Facebook page was liking

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 2>a page on Facebook. I want to believe that Cassie

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Compton ran away and is somewhere living her best life.

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 2>And maybe she is, but honestly, I don't think that's likely.

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Also find myself thinking about that last text, the one

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 2>that Cassie sent saying she was going out for cigarettes,

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 2>and wondering whether she really sent it at all. On

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:42.280
<v Speaker 2>September fourteenth, twenty fourteen, as the sun went down behind

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 2>that small house in rural Arkansas. What really happened that night?

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 2>If you have any information about Cassie Compton, please call

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 2>the Stuttgart Police Department on eight seven oh sixty seven

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 2>three one four one four. An alternative number that they've

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>given is the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 2>at one eight hundred eight four three five six seven eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Catherine Townsend. This is Helen Gone Murder Line. Helen

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<v Speaker 2>Gone Murder Line is a production of School of Humans

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<v Speaker 2>and iHeart Podcasts. It's written and narrated by me, Catherine

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Townsend and produced by Gabby Watts.

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 3>Music is contributed by Ben Sale.

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<v Speaker 2>Executive producers are Virginia Prescott, Brandon Barr, and Elsie Crowley.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a case you'd like me and my

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.360
<v Speaker 2>team to look into, you can reach out to us

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